Comments on: RM2 for a liter of RON97 from 1st September! http://paultan.org/2009/05/12/rm2-for-a-liter-of-ron97-from-1st-september/ Paul Tan on the Automotive Industry Sun, 22 Nov 2009 00:02:48 +0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Anger http://paultan.org/2009/05/12/rm2-for-a-liter-of-ron97-from-1st-september/#comment-238843 Anger Sat, 16 May 2009 03:44:42 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=14951#comment-238843 [quote comment="237710"]these fuckers. should have voted them out the last GE. today I will register and vote for the coming election.[/quote] There you go TANASI! This is the spirit we need in our young generation!!! [quote comment="237710"]these fuckers. should have voted them out the last GE. today I will register and vote for the coming election.[/quote]

There you go TANASI! This is the spirit we need in our young generation!!!

]]> By: tokmoh http://paultan.org/2009/05/12/rm2-for-a-liter-of-ron97-from-1st-september/#comment-238517 tokmoh Thu, 14 May 2009 16:40:50 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=14951#comment-238517 [quote comment="238014"][quote comment="238012"][quote comment="238005"]Since the beginning, Campro is tuned for RON95 lah!! Actually, the middle and lower income group benefit this as their petrol bill is cheaper at 5sen/L[/quote] Tokmoh, Are you driving a proton with Campro or not? My 2005 Gen2 fuel lid sticker and its owner's manual stated 'UNLEADED PETROL NO LESS THEN RON97 ONLY'. How do you explain that? If you're a proton engineer..please give me explaination what is the effect if I'm pumping the RON95 in my tank for long run...say after 6 months what will happen to the engine? Anyhow, I'll rather drive my honda and restrict this Gen2 for weekend use lor..[/quote] I think campro built in 2005 is similar with my fren's 1-month-old Satria Neo's campro. The manual did say RON95.[/quote] Bro, its what u think...I own one...so does bro Freemal5872. Tak payah tengok manual...just check at the fuel pump lid cover sudah cukup..or just go to any petrol station..see some protons filling petrol, ask the owner if u mind to see the sticker behind the fuel lid...unless the owner already kopek the sticker lar....[/quote] Nye nye nye nye!!! Sapa malu skrg? Kan Paul dah post psal sume keter Proton bole pakai RON95. n btw, Freemal5872 uses a Wira lar, not Gen2. I think Proton put RON97 cuz scared msians buntu kepala dunno wtf is RON95. Just look at how many ppl who can fill in RON92 with their kancil, kelisa, myvi, vios, city etcetc. Do they do that? Or they will still fill in RON97? Just shows the kinda knowledge msians hv abt RON n their car. Berbuih unker Chips explain psal RON, hampeh gak [quote comment="238014"][quote comment="238012"][quote comment="238005"]Since the beginning, Campro is tuned for RON95 lah!! Actually, the middle and lower income group benefit this as their petrol bill is cheaper at 5sen/L[/quote]

Tokmoh,

Are you driving a proton with Campro or not? My 2005 Gen2 fuel lid sticker and its owner’s manual stated ‘UNLEADED PETROL NO LESS THEN RON97 ONLY’. How do you explain that? If you’re a proton engineer..please give me explaination what is the effect if I’m pumping the RON95 in my tank for long run…say after 6 months what will happen to the engine? Anyhow, I’ll rather drive my honda and restrict this Gen2 for weekend use lor..[/quote]
I think campro built in 2005 is similar with my fren’s 1-month-old Satria Neo’s campro. The manual did say RON95.[/quote]

Bro, its what u think…I own one…so does bro Freemal5872. Tak payah tengok manual…just check at the fuel pump lid cover sudah cukup..or just go to any petrol station..see some protons filling petrol, ask the owner if u mind to see the sticker behind the fuel lid…unless the owner already kopek the sticker lar….[/quote]
Nye nye nye nye!!! Sapa malu skrg?

Kan Paul dah post psal sume keter Proton bole pakai RON95. n btw, Freemal5872 uses a Wira lar, not Gen2.

I think Proton put RON97 cuz scared msians buntu kepala dunno wtf is RON95. Just look at how many ppl who can fill in RON92 with their kancil, kelisa, myvi, vios, city etcetc. Do they do that? Or they will still fill in RON97?

Just shows the kinda knowledge msians hv abt RON n their car. Berbuih unker Chips explain psal RON, hampeh gak

]]> By: nic http://paultan.org/2009/05/12/rm2-for-a-liter-of-ron97-from-1st-september/#comment-238364 nic Thu, 14 May 2009 06:44:59 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=14951#comment-238364 Those has mathematical distortion, the price are going to increase this Sep. Now I don't care whether the price increase or not..neither the G is doing a good job or trying to conn the rakyat. I just want to know will RON95 harm my engine if my engine used to RON97. I remember my Satria oil cap written RON92, and I switced to RON92 for 1week, and it gave me all kind of engine sounds..I do not want this happen to my Sylphy,k???Understand???not all rakyat can afford to change their car from time to time!! borak! Those has mathematical distortion, the price are going to increase this Sep. Now I don’t care whether the price increase or not..neither the G is doing a good job or trying to conn the rakyat. I just want to know will RON95 harm my engine if my engine used to RON97. I remember my Satria oil cap written RON92, and I switced to RON92 for 1week, and it gave me all kind of engine sounds..I do not want this happen to my Sylphy,k???Understand???not all rakyat can afford to change their car from time to time!! borak!

]]> By: nic http://paultan.org/2009/05/12/rm2-for-a-liter-of-ron97-from-1st-september/#comment-238354 nic Thu, 14 May 2009 06:19:37 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=14951#comment-238354 [quote comment="238311"]Guys, Please do not think only about our self. Overall public will be affected by: 1) Eliminating Ron92 with more expensive Ron95(if same price no issue, but it is NOT). 2) Increase the RON97 price by 11.1% which actual market value is generally should be lower. (Gov cutting all the subsidy, so where is OUR TAX money?). 3) Price of Petrol is RM2.80 when oil per barrel is USD147, but now the oil per barrel has reduced to USD60, why is RON97 going to go up to RM2.00 from RM1.80? Just let our good friend know, we will remember all this and when the day we cast our vote. All will be reflected :).[/quote] Wow.....tat's like..hmm, I cldn't agree more..this is a way to increase price without drawing much attention. As well, those pro-G will say, tat's good!!! [quote comment="238311"]Guys,

Please do not think only about our self. Overall public will be affected by:
1) Eliminating Ron92 with more expensive Ron95(if same price no issue, but it is NOT).
2) Increase the RON97 price by 11.1% which actual market value is generally should be lower. (Gov cutting all the subsidy, so where is OUR TAX money?).
3) Price of Petrol is RM2.80 when oil per barrel is USD147, but now the oil per barrel has reduced to USD60, why is RON97 going to go up to RM2.00 from RM1.80?

Just let our good friend know, we will remember all this and when the day we cast our vote. All will be reflected :) .[/quote]
Wow…..tat’s like..hmm, I cldn’t agree more..this is a way to increase price without drawing much attention. As well, those pro-G will say, tat’s good!!!

]]> By: Nonoow http://paultan.org/2009/05/12/rm2-for-a-liter-of-ron97-from-1st-september/#comment-238331 Nonoow Thu, 14 May 2009 04:37:09 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=14951#comment-238331 err.. , i used RON92 for my P2 kancil +kembara and even my old EF2 Honda n still using then until now, no different...the car still run and never had a problem with the engine..at least i save some bucks to buy other thing which is more important..ya la, my car is not a sport/performance car...hehehe...as long it can take me to my destination that enough.. and thinking to try the RON 95 to my new installed 4age, hahaha err.. , i used RON92 for my P2 kancil +kembara and even my old EF2 Honda n still using then until now, no different…the car still run and never had a problem with the engine..at least i save some bucks to buy other thing which is more important..ya la, my car is not a sport/performance car…hehehe…as long it can take me to my destination that enough..

and thinking to try the RON 95 to my new installed 4age, hahaha

]]> By: Vincent http://paultan.org/2009/05/12/rm2-for-a-liter-of-ron97-from-1st-september/#comment-238311 Vincent Thu, 14 May 2009 03:42:13 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=14951#comment-238311 Guys, Please do not think only about our self. Overall public will be affected by: 1) Eliminating Ron92 with more expensive Ron95(if same price no issue, but it is NOT). 2) Increase the RON97 price by 11.1% which actual market value is generally should be lower. (Gov cutting all the subsidy, so where is OUR TAX money?). 3) Price of Petrol is RM2.80 when oil per barrel is USD147, but now the oil per barrel has reduced to USD60, why is RON97 going to go up to RM2.00 from RM1.80? Just let our good friend know, we will remember all this and when the day we cast our vote. All will be reflected :). Guys,

Please do not think only about our self. Overall public will be affected by:
1) Eliminating Ron92 with more expensive Ron95(if same price no issue, but it is NOT).
2) Increase the RON97 price by 11.1% which actual market value is generally should be lower. (Gov cutting all the subsidy, so where is OUR TAX money?).
3) Price of Petrol is RM2.80 when oil per barrel is USD147, but now the oil per barrel has reduced to USD60, why is RON97 going to go up to RM2.00 from RM1.80?

Just let our good friend know, we will remember all this and when the day we cast our vote. All will be reflected :) .

]]> By: 4G63T DSM http://paultan.org/2009/05/12/rm2-for-a-liter-of-ron97-from-1st-september/#comment-238268 4G63T DSM Thu, 14 May 2009 00:59:13 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=14951#comment-238268 [quote comment="238203"]hmm can the ron95 and ron97 mix ? lets say i have been pumping ron95 then suddenly i wan to pump ron97 into my car which still has ron95. Is it advisable ?[/quote] 1/2 tank RON 95 + 1/2 tank RON97 = the equivalent of RON96. So yes, you can mix it as long as the ave RON does not go below your minimum. [quote comment="238203"]hmm can the ron95 and ron97 mix ? lets say i have been pumping ron95 then suddenly i wan to pump ron97 into my car which still has ron95. Is it advisable ?[/quote]

1/2 tank RON 95 + 1/2 tank RON97 = the equivalent of RON96.

So yes, you can mix it as long as the ave RON does not go below your minimum.

]]> By: 4G63T DSM http://paultan.org/2009/05/12/rm2-for-a-liter-of-ron97-from-1st-september/#comment-238266 4G63T DSM Thu, 14 May 2009 00:56:17 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=14951#comment-238266 If you car does not have a knock sensor. DO NOT go below the rated octance requirement as noted on the fuel lid/owners manual. You could damage your engine if you run long term with the lower than mininum rating. Saga/Wiras do not have them, or any cars with a carb, or older cars. So run the proper fuel. Bear in mind your engine's octane requirement will increase a few points when they are old, due to carbon deposits in the combustion chamber creating hotspots. If you car has a 95 octane requirement, it may as need 97 to run correctly after a few years (depending on how well the car is driven - short distance stop and go driving usually is the worst) For newer cars that have knock sensors, there is no issue. You can run as low as you want with the expense of a power loss. I have trouble with RON97 on our Wira 1.5 Auto. I will have to detune an already underpowered car to run RON95. My 1.8 Satria only runs 97 as well, same detune is necessary to run RON95. The irony is, our new Accord will run anything we pump in...even RON92. So there you go, if you are just low-middle income stuck with a Saga/Wira, you'd get futher raped by our lovely government. If you can afford a new car, then you wont care less about this. If you have a Saga/Wira, you could ask your mechanic if it is possible to retard the ignition timing to allow you to run Ron95. Usually its just turning the distributor to retard a few degrees. Takes 10mins. You will feel the power loss. If you car does not have a knock sensor. DO NOT go below the rated octance requirement as noted on the fuel lid/owners manual. You could damage your engine if you run long term with the lower than mininum rating.

Saga/Wiras do not have them, or any cars with a carb, or older cars. So run the proper fuel.

Bear in mind your engine’s octane requirement will increase a few points when they are old, due to carbon deposits in the combustion chamber creating hotspots. If you car has a 95 octane requirement, it may as need 97 to run correctly after a few years (depending on how well the car is driven – short distance stop and go driving usually is the worst)

For newer cars that have knock sensors, there is no issue. You can run as low as you want with the expense of a power loss.

I have trouble with RON97 on our Wira 1.5 Auto. I will have to detune an already underpowered car to run RON95. My 1.8 Satria only runs 97 as well, same detune is necessary to run RON95.

The irony is, our new Accord will run anything we pump in…even RON92.

So there you go, if you are just low-middle income stuck with a Saga/Wira, you’d get futher raped by our lovely government. If you can afford a new car, then you wont care less about this.

If you have a Saga/Wira, you could ask your mechanic if it is possible to retard the ignition timing to allow you to run Ron95. Usually its just turning the distributor to retard a few degrees. Takes 10mins. You will feel the power loss.

]]> By: optimist http://paultan.org/2009/05/12/rm2-for-a-liter-of-ron97-from-1st-september/#comment-238256 optimist Thu, 14 May 2009 00:20:45 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=14951#comment-238256 why [quote comment="238115"][quote comment="238071"][quote comment="238052"][quote comment="238028"][quote comment="238019"]Please do not support BN. They only know to increase the petrol price. They have no contribution to the country but only grab our money. Please do not vote them in the future.[/quote] this is automotive blog.. don't bring politics in here... go away you PR pest... oppss..[/quote] HELLO.... we are talking about cars.... not politics.... go to hell u PR...... cakap lebey.... buat haprak..... nak jadi jaguh kampung je.....[/quote] Continue rightous about ur politician views..See what will happened. This is just another way to increase the petrol price without obvious changes.. They're getting smarter.[/quote] What Pakatan? Live under pakatan..even fucking drain cannot be fixed....and tell to be righteous...I want to dump the PAKATAN for good![/quote] Hell yeah.dump them for good. So much hype and sensation.do your f****** job first for god's sake before your want to take over this country. Pakatan has changed people's mind to be cynical in everything. A sad thing really. why [quote comment="238115"][quote comment="238071"][quote comment="238052"][quote comment="238028"][quote comment="238019"]Please do not support BN. They only know to increase the petrol price. They have no contribution to the country but only grab our money. Please do not vote them in the future.[/quote]

this is automotive blog.. don’t bring politics in here… go away you PR pest… oppss..[/quote]

HELLO…. we are talking about cars…. not politics…. go to hell u PR…… cakap lebey…. buat haprak….. nak jadi jaguh kampung je…..[/quote]
Continue rightous about ur politician views..See what will happened. This is just another way to increase the petrol price without obvious changes.. They’re getting smarter.[/quote]

What Pakatan? Live under pakatan..even fucking drain cannot be fixed….and tell to be righteous…I want to dump the PAKATAN for good![/quote]

Hell yeah.dump them for good. So much hype and sensation.do your f****** job first for god’s sake before your want to take over this country. Pakatan has changed people’s mind to be cynical in everything. A sad thing really.

]]> By: xin http://paultan.org/2009/05/12/rm2-for-a-liter-of-ron97-from-1st-september/#comment-238203 xin Wed, 13 May 2009 16:01:43 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=14951#comment-238203 hmm can the ron95 and ron97 mix ? lets say i have been pumping ron95 then suddenly i wan to pump ron97 into my car which still has ron95. Is it advisable ? hmm can the ron95 and ron97 mix ? lets say i have been pumping ron95 then suddenly i wan to pump ron97 into my car which still has ron95. Is it advisable ?

]]> By: Tiadaid http://paultan.org/2009/05/12/rm2-for-a-liter-of-ron97-from-1st-september/#comment-238200 Tiadaid Wed, 13 May 2009 15:32:38 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=14951#comment-238200 [quote comment="238119"][quote comment="238117"][quote comment="238113"][quote comment="238072"]I think PROTON should come out with a statement to clarify which of their models (old and new) can use the RON95 petrol. For the benefit of thousands of owners[/quote] I think they're running short of 'owners'..[/quote] How you know?[/quote] 'I think~'[/quote] You think is not a good answer.... [quote comment="238119"][quote comment="238117"][quote comment="238113"][quote comment="238072"]I think PROTON should come out with a statement to clarify which of their models (old and new) can use the RON95 petrol. For the benefit of thousands of owners[/quote]
I think they’re running short of ‘owners’..[/quote]

How you know?[/quote]
‘I think~’[/quote]

You think is not a good answer….

]]> By: fearsome http://paultan.org/2009/05/12/rm2-for-a-liter-of-ron97-from-1st-september/#comment-238195 fearsome Wed, 13 May 2009 15:08:40 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=14951#comment-238195 Pls pls stop talking about politics. We should focus on economics. We should focus on education. We shou;ld focus on improving the nation. Pls pls do not use foul language. Pls pls stop talking about politics.
We should focus on economics.
We should focus on education.
We shou;ld focus on improving the nation.
Pls pls do not use foul language.

]]> By: SAMTOH http://paultan.org/2009/05/12/rm2-for-a-liter-of-ron97-from-1st-september/#comment-238162 SAMTOH Wed, 13 May 2009 12:14:00 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=14951#comment-238162 What the F**k.... !!@$%&()).. BN boleh... Make malaysian people suffer.. What the F**k…. !!@$%&())..

BN boleh… Make malaysian people suffer..

]]> By: nic http://paultan.org/2009/05/12/rm2-for-a-liter-of-ron97-from-1st-september/#comment-238128 nic Wed, 13 May 2009 09:56:24 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=14951#comment-238128 [quote comment="238116"]What about you guys go to kelantan and drill oil..maybe can get free![/quote] O o...now i get the coming from...probably ppl out there're expecting free oil that's why they do not appreciate the price hiked? But i think the best is still remain the same price as it is.. [quote comment="238116"]What about you guys go to kelantan and drill oil..maybe can get free![/quote]
O o…now i get the coming from…probably ppl out there’re expecting free oil that’s why they do not appreciate the price hiked? But i think the best is still remain the same price as it is..

]]> By: sponge_bob http://paultan.org/2009/05/12/rm2-for-a-liter-of-ron97-from-1st-september/#comment-238122 sponge_bob Wed, 13 May 2009 09:50:25 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=14951#comment-238122 [quote comment="238047"] Because gas combustion is complete, there's no residue or soot left behind unlike petrol for the engine oil to catch and therefore prologing your serivce maintainence. meaning cleaner engine as the hotter combustion will burn your carbon deposits. [/quote] Gas combustion will never be 100% complete . In engineering the best efficiency would be carnot cycle efficiency . For normal petrol engine , efficiency normally within the 26%-40% . For normal diesel engine , its about 40%-50% . For NGV , it might be reach 70%-80% or maybe 95% below . In engineering , whenever there is a COMBUSTION process , definitely will have residue / waste ( due to second law of thermodynamics ) . For NGV , it might very less ( approximation to negligible when you compare with petrol engine ). The output of an NGV system might be less but we could not be sure , depends on what type of engine you are using ( typical are piston / reciprocating engine ). If the mechanics says to you , NGV is completely clean , then he should have limited knowledge about combustion process . Even one drop of water ( output ) from electric/hybrid engine is an output/residue . Regardless of how you define the level of hazard for the engine output . [quote comment="238047"]
Because gas combustion is complete, there’s no residue or soot left behind unlike petrol for the engine oil to catch and therefore prologing your serivce maintainence. meaning cleaner engine as the hotter combustion will burn your carbon deposits.
[/quote]

Gas combustion will never be 100% complete . In engineering the best efficiency would be carnot cycle efficiency . For normal petrol engine , efficiency normally within the 26%-40% . For normal diesel engine , its about 40%-50% . For NGV , it might be reach 70%-80% or maybe 95% below .

In engineering , whenever there is a COMBUSTION process , definitely will have residue / waste ( due to second law of thermodynamics ) . For NGV , it might very less ( approximation to negligible when you compare with petrol engine ). The output of an NGV system might be less but we could not be sure , depends on what type of engine you are using ( typical are piston / reciprocating engine ).

If the mechanics says to you , NGV is completely clean , then he should have limited knowledge about combustion process . Even one drop of water ( output ) from electric/hybrid engine is an output/residue . Regardless of how you define the level of hazard for the engine output .

]]> By: nic http://paultan.org/2009/05/12/rm2-for-a-liter-of-ron97-from-1st-september/#comment-238119 nic Wed, 13 May 2009 09:37:05 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=14951#comment-238119 [quote comment="238117"][quote comment="238113"][quote comment="238072"]I think PROTON should come out with a statement to clarify which of their models (old and new) can use the RON95 petrol. For the benefit of thousands of owners[/quote] I think they're running short of 'owners'..[/quote] How you know?[/quote] 'I think~' [quote comment="238117"][quote comment="238113"][quote comment="238072"]I think PROTON should come out with a statement to clarify which of their models (old and new) can use the RON95 petrol. For the benefit of thousands of owners[/quote]
I think they’re running short of ‘owners’..[/quote]

How you know?[/quote]
‘I think~’

]]> By: Tiadaid http://paultan.org/2009/05/12/rm2-for-a-liter-of-ron97-from-1st-september/#comment-238117 Tiadaid Wed, 13 May 2009 09:35:37 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=14951#comment-238117 [quote comment="238113"][quote comment="238072"]I think PROTON should come out with a statement to clarify which of their models (old and new) can use the RON95 petrol. For the benefit of thousands of owners[/quote] I think they're running short of 'owners'..[/quote] How you know? [quote comment="238113"][quote comment="238072"]I think PROTON should come out with a statement to clarify which of their models (old and new) can use the RON95 petrol. For the benefit of thousands of owners[/quote]
I think they’re running short of ‘owners’..[/quote]

How you know?

]]> By: crappyblog http://paultan.org/2009/05/12/rm2-for-a-liter-of-ron97-from-1st-september/#comment-238116 crappyblog Wed, 13 May 2009 09:26:09 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=14951#comment-238116 What about you guys go to kelantan and drill oil..maybe can get free! What about you guys go to kelantan and drill oil..maybe can get free!

]]> By: crappyblog http://paultan.org/2009/05/12/rm2-for-a-liter-of-ron97-from-1st-september/#comment-238115 crappyblog Wed, 13 May 2009 09:24:54 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=14951#comment-238115 [quote comment="238071"][quote comment="238052"][quote comment="238028"][quote comment="238019"]Please do not support BN. They only know to increase the petrol price. They have no contribution to the country but only grab our money. Please do not vote them in the future.[/quote] this is automotive blog.. don't bring politics in here... go away you PR pest... oppss..[/quote] HELLO.... we are talking about cars.... not politics.... go to hell u PR...... cakap lebey.... buat haprak..... nak jadi jaguh kampung je.....[/quote] Continue rightous about ur politician views..See what will happened. This is just another way to increase the petrol price without obvious changes.. They're getting smarter.[/quote] What Pakatan? Live under pakatan..even fucking drain cannot be fixed....and tell to be righteous...I want to dump the PAKATAN for good! [quote comment="238071"][quote comment="238052"][quote comment="238028"][quote comment="238019"]Please do not support BN. They only know to increase the petrol price. They have no contribution to the country but only grab our money. Please do not vote them in the future.[/quote]

this is automotive blog.. don’t bring politics in here… go away you PR pest… oppss..[/quote]

HELLO…. we are talking about cars…. not politics…. go to hell u PR…… cakap lebey…. buat haprak….. nak jadi jaguh kampung je…..[/quote]
Continue rightous about ur politician views..See what will happened. This is just another way to increase the petrol price without obvious changes.. They’re getting smarter.[/quote]

What Pakatan? Live under pakatan..even fucking drain cannot be fixed….and tell to be righteous…I want to dump the PAKATAN for good!

]]> By: 27 http://paultan.org/2009/05/12/rm2-for-a-liter-of-ron97-from-1st-september/#comment-238112 27 Wed, 13 May 2009 09:23:00 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=14951#comment-238112 Very soon we will see the price hike on everything.... Why dun put RON 95 at RM1.70 since it is replce RON 92??? It is hopeless and nothing we can do to prevent the price hike...many companies has cut pay like 5%,10%, or even 20%...so how can we live on this??? Very soon we will see the price hike on everything….

Why dun put RON 95 at RM1.70 since it is replce RON 92???

It is hopeless and nothing we can do to prevent the price hike…many companies has cut pay like 5%,10%, or even 20%…so how can we live on
this???

]]> By: nic http://paultan.org/2009/05/12/rm2-for-a-liter-of-ron97-from-1st-september/#comment-238113 nic Wed, 13 May 2009 09:23:00 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=14951#comment-238113 [quote comment="238072"]I think PROTON should come out with a statement to clarify which of their models (old and new) can use the RON95 petrol. For the benefit of thousands of owners[/quote] I think they're running short of 'owners'.. [quote comment="238072"]I think PROTON should come out with a statement to clarify which of their models (old and new) can use the RON95 petrol. For the benefit of thousands of owners[/quote]
I think they’re running short of ‘owners’..

]]> By: crappyblog http://paultan.org/2009/05/12/rm2-for-a-liter-of-ron97-from-1st-september/#comment-238111 crappyblog Wed, 13 May 2009 09:22:28 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=14951#comment-238111 [quote comment="237902"][quote comment="237729"][quote comment="237710"]these fuckers. should have voted them out the last GE. today I will register and vote for the coming election.[/quote] You get my vote, comrade! Still have chance to vote them out in next GE. Yeah People's Power is the ay to go!![/quote] I also will register and vote them out, everyone please... join us. I'm sick with the current G. Sure price of goods will increase la.. berani buat berani la tanggung[/quote] Hey Paul why u did not snip this away? Cmon. you suppose to be apolitical and not promoting your poilitical views... i am getting sick with this PR crap...while they are making themselves rich in any means... power first...rakyat later.. the tales of two con parties in the making.... [quote comment="237902"][quote comment="237729"][quote comment="237710"]these fuckers. should have voted them out the last GE. today I will register and vote for the coming election.[/quote]

You get my vote, comrade! Still have chance to vote them out in next GE. Yeah People’s Power is the ay to go!![/quote]

I also will register and vote them out, everyone please… join us. I’m sick with the current G. Sure price of goods will increase la.. berani buat berani la tanggung[/quote]

Hey Paul why u did not snip this away? Cmon. you suppose to be apolitical and not promoting your poilitical views… i am getting sick with this PR crap…while they are making themselves rich in any means… power first…rakyat later.. the tales of two con parties in the making….

]]> By: jawerians http://paultan.org/2009/05/12/rm2-for-a-liter-of-ron97-from-1st-september/#comment-238110 jawerians Wed, 13 May 2009 09:14:10 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=14951#comment-238110 want to add some. For p2 kancil owners who currently enjoyed RM 1.70 RON92 get ready to bring extra cash after 1 sept. I also belive most kancil owners are also not a rich people. i wonder who will really get benifit from this price hike? thanks G for your make people headache vision. want to add some. For p2 kancil owners who currently enjoyed RM 1.70 RON92 get ready to bring extra cash after 1 sept. I also belive most kancil owners are also not a rich people. i wonder who will really get benifit from this price hike? thanks G for your make people headache vision.

]]> By: proton12vauto http://paultan.org/2009/05/12/rm2-for-a-liter-of-ron97-from-1st-september/#comment-238109 proton12vauto Wed, 13 May 2009 09:13:30 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=14951#comment-238109 NGV is bad for our engine. go ask taxi driver or limo driver, how bad condition their engin.. NGV is bad for our engine. go ask taxi driver or limo driver, how bad condition their engin..

]]> By: Reasonable http://paultan.org/2009/05/12/rm2-for-a-liter-of-ron97-from-1st-september/#comment-238108 Reasonable Wed, 13 May 2009 09:09:30 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=14951#comment-238108 This nation required HERO... Ron95 introduced with Ron97 price hike! It can only tells you one thing! Government rules! So shut your mouth and follow... A lot of members are correct, they should vote others during the GE... But the same thing will happened, whenever there is a hatch filled with gold, regardless of what party you are, you will take it too... Greed lies in everyone of us... it's only a matter how greedy will that particular person be... This nation required HERO… Ron95 introduced with Ron97 price hike! It can only tells you one thing! Government rules! So shut your mouth and follow… A lot of members are correct, they should vote others during the GE… But the same thing will happened, whenever there is a hatch filled with gold, regardless of what party you are, you will take it too… Greed lies in everyone of us… it’s only a matter how greedy will that particular person be…

]]> By: satuarah http://paultan.org/2009/05/12/rm2-for-a-liter-of-ron97-from-1st-september/#comment-238107 satuarah Wed, 13 May 2009 09:06:38 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=14951#comment-238107 “RON95 pula menjadi produk harga tetap yang dikawal kerajaan,” katanya pada sidang media selepas melancarkan petrol baru itu. Hadir sama ialah Timbalannya, Datuk Tan Lian Hoe; Ketua Setiausaha kementerian, Datuk Mohd Zain Mohd Dom dan Pengerusi Petronas Dagangan Berhad, Datuk Anuar Ahmad. Beliau berkata, rakyat tidak perlu panik dengan kenaikan harga RON97 di pasaran kerana RON95 menawarkan kualiti dan prestasi sama hebatnya. Mengenai pemansuhan RON92, beliau berkata, walaupun harga RON95 agak tinggi berbanding RON92 yang kini dijual RM1.70 seliter, petrol baru itu lebih berkualiti. Ketika ini kadar penggunaan RON92 hanya sekitar lima hingga 10 peratus daripada jumlah penggunaan keseluruhan petrol di negara ini sejak 2000 hingga tahun lalu. "Pelaksanaan penggunaan RON 95 adalah usaha berterusan bagi memastikan rakyat mendapat kualiti petrol lebih baik pada harga yang disubsidi kerajaan. Semua jenis kereta boleh menggunakan RON95 termasuk yang berkuasa tinggi. "Selain itu, penggunaan RON95 yang sesuai dengan enjin kenderaan membolehkan pembakaran sempurna dan lebih berkesan sekali gus menyebabkan kurang pelepasan bahan pencemar ke udara," katanya. Ismail Sabri berkata, penjualan RON95 mendapat sokongan agensi kerajaan berkaitan, syarikat minyak utama serta industri kenderaan bermotor. "Perbincangan dengan industri kenderaan bermotor mendapati kebanyakan enjin kenderaan yang digunakan di negara ini boleh menggunakan RON95," katanya. http://www.bharian.com.my/Current_News/BH/Wednesday/BeritaUtama/20090512232104/Article/index_html “RON95 pula menjadi produk harga tetap yang dikawal kerajaan,” katanya pada sidang media selepas melancarkan petrol baru itu. Hadir sama ialah Timbalannya, Datuk Tan Lian Hoe; Ketua Setiausaha kementerian, Datuk Mohd Zain Mohd Dom dan Pengerusi Petronas Dagangan Berhad, Datuk Anuar Ahmad.

Beliau berkata, rakyat tidak perlu panik dengan kenaikan harga RON97 di pasaran kerana RON95 menawarkan kualiti dan prestasi sama hebatnya.

Mengenai pemansuhan RON92, beliau berkata, walaupun harga RON95 agak tinggi berbanding RON92 yang kini dijual RM1.70 seliter, petrol baru itu lebih berkualiti.

Ketika ini kadar penggunaan RON92 hanya sekitar lima hingga 10 peratus daripada jumlah penggunaan keseluruhan petrol di negara ini sejak 2000 hingga tahun lalu.

“Pelaksanaan penggunaan RON 95 adalah usaha berterusan bagi memastikan rakyat mendapat kualiti petrol lebih baik pada harga yang disubsidi kerajaan. Semua jenis kereta boleh menggunakan RON95 termasuk yang berkuasa tinggi.

“Selain itu, penggunaan RON95 yang sesuai dengan enjin kenderaan membolehkan pembakaran sempurna dan lebih berkesan sekali gus menyebabkan kurang pelepasan bahan pencemar ke udara,” katanya.

Ismail Sabri berkata, penjualan RON95 mendapat sokongan agensi kerajaan berkaitan, syarikat minyak utama serta industri kenderaan bermotor.

“Perbincangan dengan industri kenderaan bermotor mendapati kebanyakan enjin kenderaan yang digunakan di negara ini boleh menggunakan RON95,” katanya.

http://www.bharian.com.my/Current_News/BH/Wednesday/BeritaUtama/20090512232104/Article/index_html

]]> By: Tiadaid http://paultan.org/2009/05/12/rm2-for-a-liter-of-ron97-from-1st-september/#comment-238105 Tiadaid Wed, 13 May 2009 09:04:09 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=14951#comment-238105 [quote comment="238029"]spongy..why so stupid?? who started all the mess in the first place in perak?? whos the culprit?? when BN 'rapes' the law and constitutional, person like u just simply said "padan muka to PR"..hahaha ur ignorance makes u look stupid..definitely a fool..[/quote] Hekeleh...who started taunting BN about people jumping parties and forming new national government? That's right, its ur beloved DSAI! Right back at ya! If he senyap2 only and focus on doing his job, then the Perak mess wouldn't have happened! [quote comment="238029"]spongy..why so stupid?? who started all the mess in the first place in perak?? whos the culprit?? when BN ‘rapes’ the law and constitutional, person like u just simply said “padan muka to PR”..hahaha ur ignorance makes u look stupid..definitely a fool..[/quote]

Hekeleh…who started taunting BN about people jumping parties and forming new national government? That’s right, its ur beloved DSAI! Right back at ya! If he senyap2 only and focus on doing his job, then the Perak mess wouldn’t have happened!

]]> By: jawerians http://paultan.org/2009/05/12/rm2-for-a-liter-of-ron97-from-1st-september/#comment-238103 jawerians Wed, 13 May 2009 08:49:46 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=14951#comment-238103 i belive most owners of 4G13p and 4G15p out there are not rich people and those engines are not a high performances or sports engine and definitely not fitted to a racing and expansive cars. this price increase will hit us very bad. not to mention any other collateral price increase when fuel price increased soon. please consider us, the user of old protons cars. i belive most owners of 4G13p and 4G15p out there are not rich people and those engines are not a high performances or sports engine and definitely not fitted to a racing and expansive cars. this price increase will hit us very bad. not to mention any other collateral price increase when fuel price increased soon. please consider us, the user of old protons cars.

]]> By: kemosabe http://paultan.org/2009/05/12/rm2-for-a-liter-of-ron97-from-1st-september/#comment-238102 kemosabe Wed, 13 May 2009 08:45:20 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=14951#comment-238102 Strange they could sell RON97 at RM1.80 now, and then RON95 at RM1.75 in September. Doesn't seem to justify the RON95 pricing. The Gov could just keep the RON97 at RM1.80, and RON95 at RM1.75. Whats the justification to for the 20cents hike. Sounds more like a scam. Lets hope oil prices will come down en route to September. Strange they could sell RON97 at RM1.80 now, and then RON95 at RM1.75 in September. Doesn’t seem to justify the RON95 pricing.
The Gov could just keep the RON97 at RM1.80, and RON95 at RM1.75.
Whats the justification to for the 20cents hike.
Sounds more like a scam.
Lets hope oil prices will come down en route to September.

]]> By: gegala http://paultan.org/2009/05/12/rm2-for-a-liter-of-ron97-from-1st-september/#comment-238085 gegala Wed, 13 May 2009 06:37:50 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=14951#comment-238085 [quote comment="237775"]Some noob question... RON 97 - hijau? RON92 - merah? Can new honda city use RON 95? Thanks....[/quote] Dun wori.if u read new honda city manual book,it stated that can fill with ron91. So no big deal. I also own new city,will using ron95 starting this sept..peace [quote comment="237775"]Some noob question…

RON 97 – hijau?
RON92 – merah?

Can new honda city use RON 95?

Thanks….[/quote]

Dun wori.if u read new honda city manual book,it stated that can fill with ron91. So no big deal. I also own new city,will using ron95 starting this sept..peace

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