Comments on: Ducati 1198 and 1198 S launched at Next Bike’s new Ducati showroom in TTDI! http://paultan.org/2009/05/20/ducati-1198-and-1198-s-launched-at-next-bikes-new-ducati-showroom-in-ttdi/ Paul Tan on the Automotive Industry Wed, 15 Feb 2012 04:02:11 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Calvin De La Rosa http://paultan.org/2009/05/20/ducati-1198-and-1198-s-launched-at-next-bikes-new-ducati-showroom-in-ttdi/#comment-240109 Calvin De La Rosa Thu, 21 May 2009 01:31:46 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=15100#comment-240109 Paul, I strongly believe you're one of those 'smart driver'. And this is a very civilized albeit few friendly banters amongst manufacturers fan here and there. But I think a moderate moderation should be in hand... just to keep the repo of this blog intact. My MYR0.02 Paul, I strongly believe you're one of those 'smart driver'. And this is a very civilized albeit few friendly banters amongst manufacturers fan here and there.

But I think a moderate moderation should be in hand… just to keep the repo of this blog intact.

My MYR0.02

]]> By: Calvin De La Rosa http://paultan.org/2009/05/20/ducati-1198-and-1198-s-launched-at-next-bikes-new-ducati-showroom-in-ttdi/#comment-240106 Calvin De La Rosa Thu, 21 May 2009 01:24:36 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=15100#comment-240106 [quote comment="240095"][quote comment="240077"]Dont think we do not know what you're trying to imply there.[/quote] Good. Go do something to the person who stirred up the ???? then.[/quote] Hence I SAID DON'T FUEL THE FIRE. Retaliation only causes 'accident'. Be the smart 'driver'. Drive on the 'right lane' & don't go over the 'speed limit'. 'Smart driver don't think they smart, but they act smart.' [quote comment="240095"][quote comment="240077"]Dont think we do not know what you're trying to imply there.[/quote]

Good. Go do something to the person who stirred up the ???? then.[/quote]

Hence I SAID DON'T FUEL THE FIRE. Retaliation only causes 'accident'. Be the smart 'driver'. Drive on the 'right lane' & don't go over the 'speed limit'.

'Smart driver don't think they smart, but they act smart.'

]]> By: _xXx_ http://paultan.org/2009/05/20/ducati-1198-and-1198-s-launched-at-next-bikes-new-ducati-showroom-in-ttdi/#comment-240095 _xXx_ Thu, 21 May 2009 00:12:17 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=15100#comment-240095 [quote comment="240077"]Dont think we do not know what you're trying to imply there.[/quote] Good. Go do something to the person who stirred up the ???? then. [quote comment="240077"]Dont think we do not know what you're trying to imply there.[/quote]

Good. Go do something to the person who stirred up the ???? then.

]]> By: BodowBodow http://paultan.org/2009/05/20/ducati-1198-and-1198-s-launched-at-next-bikes-new-ducati-showroom-in-ttdi/#comment-240085 BodowBodow Wed, 20 May 2009 23:29:18 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=15100#comment-240085 life is too precious for a superbike accident haha ... life is too precious for a superbike accident haha …

]]> By: Calvin De La Rosa http://paultan.org/2009/05/20/ducati-1198-and-1198-s-launched-at-next-bikes-new-ducati-showroom-in-ttdi/#comment-240077 Calvin De La Rosa Wed, 20 May 2009 22:09:22 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=15100#comment-240077 [quote comment="240044"][quote comment="240028"]...this posting is about the Duc and its 1198, not about how expensive it is...[/quote] uuh? Whose rule is this? Urs? Berambuslah, the malay saying.[/quote] Don't fuel the fire, my friend. We do not need rude people while discussing automotive matters. (Dont think we do not know what you're trying to imply there.) [quote comment="240044"][quote comment="240028"]…this posting is about the Duc and its 1198, not about how expensive it is…[/quote]

uuh? Whose rule is this? Urs? Berambuslah, the malay saying.[/quote]

Don't fuel the fire, my friend. We do not need rude people while discussing automotive matters.

(Dont think we do not know what you're trying to imply there.)

]]> By: Madness http://paultan.org/2009/05/20/ducati-1198-and-1198-s-launched-at-next-bikes-new-ducati-showroom-in-ttdi/#comment-240076 Madness Wed, 20 May 2009 22:07:34 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=15100#comment-240076 test* test*

]]> By: Madness http://paultan.org/2009/05/20/ducati-1198-and-1198-s-launched-at-next-bikes-new-ducati-showroom-in-ttdi/#comment-240075 Madness Wed, 20 May 2009 22:07:09 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=15100#comment-240075 Buy Ducati 1198S's halfcut then plonk the engine into kelisa. It should be fit..1200cc somemore can pass JPJ tess. Buy Ducati 1198S's halfcut then plonk the engine into kelisa. It should be fit..1200cc somemore can pass JPJ tess.

]]> By: Miss Janet http://paultan.org/2009/05/20/ducati-1198-and-1198-s-launched-at-next-bikes-new-ducati-showroom-in-ttdi/#comment-240070 Miss Janet Wed, 20 May 2009 21:42:27 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=15100#comment-240070 Paul, U forgot to mention how many SRS airbags and crash test rating on this thing... Paul,

U forgot to mention how many SRS airbags and crash test rating on this thing…

]]> By: dreamer http://paultan.org/2009/05/20/ducati-1198-and-1198-s-launched-at-next-bikes-new-ducati-showroom-in-ttdi/#comment-240050 dreamer Wed, 20 May 2009 18:59:23 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=15100#comment-240050 well..the price's like hell coz da tax is rubbish. well..the price's like hell coz da tax is rubbish.

]]> By: _xXx_ http://paultan.org/2009/05/20/ducati-1198-and-1198-s-launched-at-next-bikes-new-ducati-showroom-in-ttdi/#comment-240044 _xXx_ Wed, 20 May 2009 17:47:53 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=15100#comment-240044 [quote comment="240028"]...this posting is about the Duc and its 1198, not about how expensive it is...[/quote] uuh? Whose rule is this? Urs? Berambuslah, the malay saying. [quote comment="240028"]…this posting is about the Duc and its 1198, not about how expensive it is…[/quote]

uuh? Whose rule is this? Urs? Berambuslah, the malay saying.

]]> By: king http://paultan.org/2009/05/20/ducati-1198-and-1198-s-launched-at-next-bikes-new-ducati-showroom-in-ttdi/#comment-240042 king Wed, 20 May 2009 17:33:29 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=15100#comment-240042 [quote comment="239914"]when you buy a ducati, it's not about what other CAR you can get for this bike. it's about the sheer adrenaline rush you get that NO OTHER CAR can give you. not even a civic type-r comes close to the experience of riding on super bike! in fact, i dare say only the atom ariel comes anywhere near (still way off by a gazillion miles) to the experience on a super bike. imagine doing 300km/h with nothing around you except tarmac and 2 wheels! woohoo! and you need a special helmet and suit to keep you glued to the bike at such speeds.[/quote] 'samseng jalan' oso can get adrenalin rush doing "superman" stunt with kap chai at 120 kmh...no need this bike...heheh :) [quote comment="239914"]when you buy a ducati, it's not about what other CAR you can get for this bike.

it's about the sheer adrenaline rush you get that NO OTHER CAR can give you. not even a civic type-r comes close to the experience of riding on super bike! in fact, i dare say only the atom ariel comes anywhere near (still way off by a gazillion miles) to the experience on a super bike.

imagine doing 300km/h with nothing around you except tarmac and 2 wheels! woohoo! and you need a special helmet and suit to keep you glued to the bike at such speeds.[/quote]

'samseng jalan' oso can get adrenalin rush doing "superman" stunt with kap chai at 120 kmh…no need this bike…heheh :)

]]> By: bkk http://paultan.org/2009/05/20/ducati-1198-and-1198-s-launched-at-next-bikes-new-ducati-showroom-in-ttdi/#comment-240030 bkk Wed, 20 May 2009 15:55:13 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=15100#comment-240030 wow...sexy bikes ! I am not a bike person but ducati got the most amazing bikes around, if only proton didnt sell Agusta for 1 pound we might got ourself a national superbike here in Bolehland. wow…sexy bikes ! I am not a bike person but ducati got the most amazing bikes around, if only proton didnt sell Agusta for 1 pound we might got ourself a national superbike here in Bolehland.

]]> By: mitlanevo http://paultan.org/2009/05/20/ducati-1198-and-1198-s-launched-at-next-bikes-new-ducati-showroom-in-ttdi/#comment-240029 mitlanevo Wed, 20 May 2009 15:41:54 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=15100#comment-240029 [quote comment="240000"]bila nak kuar meter screen color....hehe[/quote] siap dengan fungsi Playstation dan GPS? lol~ [quote comment="240000"]bila nak kuar meter screen color….hehe[/quote]

siap dengan fungsi Playstation dan GPS? lol~

]]> By: gangully http://paultan.org/2009/05/20/ducati-1198-and-1198-s-launched-at-next-bikes-new-ducati-showroom-in-ttdi/#comment-240028 gangully Wed, 20 May 2009 15:38:11 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=15100#comment-240028 hahahaha xXx is going on an all out attack famous malay saying "siapa makan cili, dia rasa pedas" voice out all your negative comments, on proper channels, this posting is about the Duc and its 1198, not about how expensive it is. thanks! hahahaha xXx is going on an all out attack

famous malay saying "siapa makan cili, dia rasa pedas"

voice out all your negative comments, on proper channels, this posting is about the Duc and its 1198, not about how expensive it is.

thanks!

]]> By: Calvin De La Rosa http://paultan.org/2009/05/20/ducati-1198-and-1198-s-launched-at-next-bikes-new-ducati-showroom-in-ttdi/#comment-240026 Calvin De La Rosa Wed, 20 May 2009 15:25:25 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=15100#comment-240026 [quote comment="239986"]Typical attitude among M'sians; better buy a house instead of overpriced car/bike ;-) better yet , better deposit money in banks & live in squatter ville instead of wasting 'em on dirt & rubble of a house. The difference between living & existing is, I guess is; passion. If what you want became your need plus you could afford it or maybe borrow or STEAL; then by all means go for it! Otherwise, just PLEASE shut-the-hell-up![/quote] What is wrong with you... encourage STEALING! I bet you're a rich kid/guy or you just got a multi-millions contract. Most likely money comes easy for you. But there are people with passion out there that not as fortunate as the riches. What, if they ride a kapcai and has passion for Ducati, and NO ONE wants to borrow it to them, they should STEAL it? Come on...! [quote comment="239986"]Typical attitude among M'sians; better buy a house instead of overpriced car/bike ;-) better yet , better deposit money in banks & live in squatter ville instead of wasting 'em on dirt & rubble of a house.

The difference between living & existing is, I guess is; passion. If what you want became your need plus you could afford it or maybe borrow or STEAL; then by all means go for it!

Otherwise, just PLEASE shut-the-hell-up![/quote]

What is wrong with you… encourage STEALING!

I bet you're a rich kid/guy or you just got a multi-millions contract. Most likely money comes easy for you. But there are people with passion out there that not as fortunate as the riches. What, if they ride a kapcai and has passion for Ducati, and NO ONE wants to borrow it to them, they should STEAL it?

Come on…!

]]> By: _xXx_ http://paultan.org/2009/05/20/ducati-1198-and-1198-s-launched-at-next-bikes-new-ducati-showroom-in-ttdi/#comment-240020 _xXx_ Wed, 20 May 2009 14:50:41 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=15100#comment-240020 [quote comment="240010"]and honestly, the reality is, not everyone in the US can afford a bike that costs USD22k. the average american only earns around USD 2-3k a month only. not everyone there is rich.[/quote] if I am earning RM2k here, I can comfortably own a Duc if it is priced at RM22k. But the fact is - I am earning much more but I can't afford the 183k bike! The interest itself is already killing! Not to mention the pricipal. [quote comment="240010"]and honestly, the reality is, not everyone in the US can afford a bike that costs USD22k. the average american only earns around USD 2-3k a month only. not everyone there is rich.[/quote]

if I am earning RM2k here, I can comfortably own a Duc if it is priced at RM22k. But the fact is – I am earning much more but I can't afford the 183k bike! The interest itself is already killing! Not to mention the pricipal.

]]> By: arch808 http://paultan.org/2009/05/20/ducati-1198-and-1198-s-launched-at-next-bikes-new-ducati-showroom-in-ttdi/#comment-240019 arch808 Wed, 20 May 2009 14:49:43 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=15100#comment-240019 I'm now rm50k poorer after getting my 650bike. may not be anywhere near the Dukes bikes, but 210kmh is gud enuff for me. it definitely gave me a lot more adrenaline rush than my 07 Civic. :-) cheers I'm now rm50k poorer after getting my 650bike. may not be anywhere near the Dukes bikes, but 210kmh is gud enuff for me. it definitely gave me a lot more adrenaline rush than my 07 Civic. :-)

cheers

]]> By: _xXx_ http://paultan.org/2009/05/20/ducati-1198-and-1198-s-launched-at-next-bikes-new-ducati-showroom-in-ttdi/#comment-240013 _xXx_ Wed, 20 May 2009 14:16:50 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=15100#comment-240013 [quote comment="239986"]Typical attitude among M'sians; better buy a house instead of overpriced car/bike ;-) better yet , better deposit money in banks & live in squatter ville instead of wasting 'em on dirt & rubble of a house. The difference between living & existing is, I guess is; passion. If what you want became your need plus you could afford it or maybe borrow or steal; then by all means go for it! Otherwise, just PLEASE shut-the-hell-up![/quote] Do you really do what you mentioned above? I think you were trying to tell us that kind of Nike BS "life is short, play hard" thingy....don't regret, my frd [quote comment="239986"]Typical attitude among M'sians; better buy a house instead of overpriced car/bike ;-) better yet , better deposit money in banks & live in squatter ville instead of wasting 'em on dirt & rubble of a house.

The difference between living & existing is, I guess is; passion. If what you want became your need plus you could afford it or maybe borrow or steal; then by all means go for it!

Otherwise, just PLEASE shut-the-hell-up![/quote]

Do you really do what you mentioned above? I think you were trying to tell us that kind of Nike BS "life is short, play hard" thingy….don't regret, my frd

]]> By: BanyakMasukWorkshop http://paultan.org/2009/05/20/ducati-1198-and-1198-s-launched-at-next-bikes-new-ducati-showroom-in-ttdi/#comment-240010 BanyakMasukWorkshop Wed, 20 May 2009 14:11:26 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=15100#comment-240010 [quote comment="240007"][quote comment="239938"]there are always people coming on to this site and saying "waaahh, can buy other things for the price", "can buy other cars for the price", "toys for the rich" and what i say everytime i read comments like that is... GET A LIFE! This is a site very well engineered and thought off by Paultan, and the demographics of his readers are not only those who complain about everything but also those who can afford those cars/motorbikes that have been featured. If you can't afford it, like me, then just keep quiet and admire. Not come on and make fleeting comments just because you can't afford it. Some of the rich in this country worked for their har earned money. So don't just generalise. My 2 cents[/quote] oh yeah, you too, keep quiet and spit on my posting if you don't like it. Who the heck u think u r for stopping ppl from voicing out their negative opinion?[/quote] to be fair to him, he didnt "spit" on your posting, or singled out your posting. he didnt even quote you.. and honestly, the reality is, not everyone in the US can afford a bike that costs USD22k. the average american only earns around USD 2-3k a month only. not everyone there is rich. [quote comment="240007"][quote comment="239938"]there are always people coming on to this site and saying "waaahh, can buy other things for the price", "can buy other cars for the price", "toys for the rich" and what i say everytime i read comments like that is… GET A LIFE!

This is a site very well engineered and thought off by Paultan, and the demographics of his readers are not only those who complain about everything but also those who can afford those cars/motorbikes that have been featured. If you can't afford it, like me, then just keep quiet and admire. Not come on and make fleeting comments just because you can't afford it. Some of the rich in this country worked for their har earned money. So don't just generalise.

My 2 cents[/quote]

oh yeah, you too, keep quiet and spit on my posting if you don't like it. Who the heck u think u r for stopping ppl from voicing out their negative opinion?[/quote]

to be fair to him, he didnt "spit" on your posting, or singled out your posting. he didnt even quote you.. and honestly, the reality is, not everyone in the US can afford a bike that costs USD22k. the average american only earns around USD 2-3k a month only. not everyone there is rich.

]]> By: _xXx_ http://paultan.org/2009/05/20/ducati-1198-and-1198-s-launched-at-next-bikes-new-ducati-showroom-in-ttdi/#comment-240008 _xXx_ Wed, 20 May 2009 14:00:56 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=15100#comment-240008 [quote comment="239977"]emm...in USD21k (74k)..in malaysia =158k..wow..dats a big margine..wonder where the money goes......[/quote] salah la bro, compare the S model prices, diff is >100k! [quote comment="239977"]emm…in USD21k (74k)..in malaysia =158k..wow..dats a big margine..wonder where the money goes……[/quote]

salah la bro, compare the S model prices, diff is >100k!

]]> By: _xXx_ http://paultan.org/2009/05/20/ducati-1198-and-1198-s-launched-at-next-bikes-new-ducati-showroom-in-ttdi/#comment-240007 _xXx_ Wed, 20 May 2009 13:58:01 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=15100#comment-240007 [quote comment="239938"]there are always people coming on to this site and saying "waaahh, can buy other things for the price", "can buy other cars for the price", "toys for the rich" and what i say everytime i read comments like that is... GET A LIFE! This is a site very well engineered and thought off by Paultan, and the demographics of his readers are not only those who complain about everything but also those who can afford those cars/motorbikes that have been featured. If you can't afford it, like me, then just keep quiet and admire. Not come on and make fleeting comments just because you can't afford it. Some of the rich in this country worked for their har earned money. So don't just generalise. My 2 cents[/quote] oh yeah, you too, keep quiet and spit on my posting if you don't like it. Who the heck u think u r for stopping ppl from voicing out their negative opinion? [quote comment="239938"]there are always people coming on to this site and saying "waaahh, can buy other things for the price", "can buy other cars for the price", "toys for the rich" and what i say everytime i read comments like that is… GET A LIFE!

This is a site very well engineered and thought off by Paultan, and the demographics of his readers are not only those who complain about everything but also those who can afford those cars/motorbikes that have been featured. If you can't afford it, like me, then just keep quiet and admire. Not come on and make fleeting comments just because you can't afford it. Some of the rich in this country worked for their har earned money. So don't just generalise.

My 2 cents[/quote]

oh yeah, you too, keep quiet and spit on my posting if you don't like it. Who the heck u think u r for stopping ppl from voicing out their negative opinion?

]]> By: nmh http://paultan.org/2009/05/20/ducati-1198-and-1198-s-launched-at-next-bikes-new-ducati-showroom-in-ttdi/#comment-240000 nmh Wed, 20 May 2009 13:27:37 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=15100#comment-240000 bila nak kuar meter screen color....hehe bila nak kuar meter screen color….hehe

]]> By: dreamer http://paultan.org/2009/05/20/ducati-1198-and-1198-s-launched-at-next-bikes-new-ducati-showroom-in-ttdi/#comment-239977 dreamer Wed, 20 May 2009 12:02:49 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=15100#comment-239977 emm...in USD21k (74k)..in malaysia =158k..wow..dats a big margine..wonder where the money goes...... emm…in USD21k (74k)..in malaysia =158k..wow..dats a big margine..wonder where the money goes……

]]> By: ray http://paultan.org/2009/05/20/ducati-1198-and-1198-s-launched-at-next-bikes-new-ducati-showroom-in-ttdi/#comment-239966 ray Wed, 20 May 2009 11:03:26 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=15100#comment-239966 superbike always with man.... ONLY rich superbike always with man…. ONLY rich

]]> By: NA http://paultan.org/2009/05/20/ducati-1198-and-1198-s-launched-at-next-bikes-new-ducati-showroom-in-ttdi/#comment-239964 NA Wed, 20 May 2009 11:00:58 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=15100#comment-239964 Australia don't sell CTR like we have here, if there is, that would be from gray importer there. The 3 doors hatch same as UK specs FN is selling at 41990. Malaysia is the only one country outside of Japan to have the same model selling at its showroom. You need to save up RM100k before you get to migrate there, and you need another RM115K to buy that car in cash, since no bank there will provide the loan to new migrate. <a href="http://civic.honda.com.au/landing.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://civic.honda.com.au/landing.aspx</a> Australia don't sell CTR like we have here, if there is, that would be from gray importer there. The 3 doors hatch same as UK specs FN is selling at 41990. Malaysia is the only one country outside of Japan to have the same model selling at its showroom.

You need to save up RM100k before you get to migrate there, and you need another RM115K to buy that car in cash, since no bank there will provide the loan to new migrate.

http://civic.honda.com.au/landing.aspx

]]> By: NA http://paultan.org/2009/05/20/ducati-1198-and-1198-s-launched-at-next-bikes-new-ducati-showroom-in-ttdi/#comment-239951 NA Wed, 20 May 2009 10:33:55 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=15100#comment-239951 AP aside, 185K is reasonably priced considering it is one of the best specs that you can get in Malaysia. And it is Ferrari of 2 wheels. The BMW 3 sell at 30K USD over there, still there are plentiful over here. A lots of people can afford for the brand that they have believe in. AP aside, 185K is reasonably priced considering it is one of the best specs that you can get in Malaysia. And it is Ferrari of 2 wheels.

The BMW 3 sell at 30K USD over there, still there are plentiful over here. A lots of people can afford for the brand that they have believe in.

]]> By: damanda http://paultan.org/2009/05/20/ducati-1198-and-1198-s-launched-at-next-bikes-new-ducati-showroom-in-ttdi/#comment-239949 damanda Wed, 20 May 2009 10:24:54 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=15100#comment-239949 they got pink bike? anyway , im gonna choose white 1.. they got pink bike?

anyway , im gonna choose white 1..

]]> By: Jaybond http://paultan.org/2009/05/20/ducati-1198-and-1198-s-launched-at-next-bikes-new-ducati-showroom-in-ttdi/#comment-239944 Jaybond Wed, 20 May 2009 10:18:34 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=15100#comment-239944 This is a chick magnet. Better get a biposto. This is a chick magnet. Better get a biposto.

]]> By: amirad http://paultan.org/2009/05/20/ducati-1198-and-1198-s-launched-at-next-bikes-new-ducati-showroom-in-ttdi/#comment-239942 amirad Wed, 20 May 2009 10:12:25 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=15100#comment-239942 Most average driver if given a supercar can drive up to 300 km/h. How many average riders if given a hyperbike can ride up to 300 km/h ? I for one, don't have the guts and skill to do it. Most average driver if given a supercar can drive up to 300 km/h. How many average riders if given a hyperbike can ride up to 300 km/h ? I for one, don't have the guts and skill to do it.

]]> By: gangully http://paultan.org/2009/05/20/ducati-1198-and-1198-s-launched-at-next-bikes-new-ducati-showroom-in-ttdi/#comment-239938 gangully Wed, 20 May 2009 09:52:39 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=15100#comment-239938 there are always people coming on to this site and saying "waaahh, can buy other things for the price", "can buy other cars for the price", "toys for the rich" and what i say everytime i read comments like that is... GET A LIFE! This is a site very well engineered and thought off by Paultan, and the demographics of his readers are not only those who complain about everything but also those who can afford those cars/motorbikes that have been featured. If you can't afford it, like me, then just keep quiet and admire. Not come on and make fleeting comments just because you can't afford it. Some of the rich in this country worked for their har earned money. So don't just generalise. My 2 cents there are always people coming on to this site and saying "waaahh, can buy other things for the price", "can buy other cars for the price", "toys for the rich" and what i say everytime i read comments like that is… GET A LIFE!

This is a site very well engineered and thought off by Paultan, and the demographics of his readers are not only those who complain about everything but also those who can afford those cars/motorbikes that have been featured. If you can't afford it, like me, then just keep quiet and admire. Not come on and make fleeting comments just because you can't afford it. Some of the rich in this country worked for their har earned money. So don't just generalise.

My 2 cents

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