When ppl are moving forward for new energy source(hybrid/electric car) ,this god darn stupid proton comes out with a WOW CPS engine. 1.6 lagi.

kesian malaysian. Malaysian senang lupa.[/quote]

Proton will be launch the new WRM, using Lancer aka Galant Fortis. Perhaps, using Taiwan model or if they’re smarter using same model brought by Mitsubishi Malaysia. BUT, don’t expect Mitsu engine CPS 1.6 most probably. hehehehe…after two years you can swap a EVO engine and find more EVO X parts to be more impressive look.[/quote]

when they wanna rebatch, rebatch the whole thing. the 1.6 cps is outdated the moment it is on the drawing block. why dont they just change the batch on mitsu lancer 2.0 and sell at tax-free price? everyone will vote BN ( one time at least)[/quote]
and the best part is.. Mitsu oso will be rebadging EXORA ,,,use exora and rebadge as Mitsubishi brand… so later we can see Exora mitsubishi version…
haha… ah beng japanese wannabe must be sakit hati punya

prrrfthhh

aloo don”t be like a broken radio la.. if u wanna bash .. be a smart wan, at least pelase update your knowlegde..
p2 produced quality cars for the past year like kancil and kelisa but not for newer car esp. VIVA…if i don’t update my knowlegde.. i may think taht VIVA oso good quality like old kancil lorrr

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the above quote taken from paultan last year…
Datuk Hafiz said it likened to mini TOYOTA WISHHH??? prrrfthhhh
haha they got eyes problem?? or they want cheat people???
how come passo sette=mini Toyota wish??

that’s y when p2 said the p2 mpv price will be 55k-66k… i never believed them anymore

Dude,atleast Proton didnt copycat the whole thing like Perodua always did.I dun understand why u need to be such a dik head whining around about Proton?Open your eyes & look at the 2rd row of the seats,its totally ugly likesheet.I bet its suitable for no brainers like u to sleep on it.[/quote]

Lol…copy?? do u noe where does ur proton come from?? u don even noe…. there is no such thing as copying la…there is only rebranding in this industry.. anyway if u noe wat is good…do u mind buying it although is a rebranding case… will u buy a low quality vehicle which is not copying?? the world is realistic…dis is business… learn more bout auto then only talk…u are not even in d rnd department..wat do u noe bout copying?? lol…[/quote]

Phrase said,
May 24, 2009 @ 1:54 am · Reply with quote

Lol…copy?? do u noe where does ur proton come from?? u don even noe…. there is no such thing as copying la…there is only rebranding in this industry.. anyway if u noe wat is good…do u mind buying it although is a rebranding case… will u buy a low quality vehicle which is not copying?? the world is realistic…dis is business… learn more bout auto then only talk…u are not even in d rnd department..wat do u noe bout copying?? lol…

JFLO – There is such thing in China.. copycat.. haha..even u dont know..u learn more about auto then u talk.. dont simply comment when u are not in the industry

Yeap,JFLO,even urself donno about it.So please study more before u make any comment, “No Such Thing” konon,hahaha,make me LOL. If u yourslef are in the RND,then u should be ashame of urself,muahaha!!JFLO=Jangan Fitnah Lain Orang before studying the possibility of any cases,kakaka…[/quote]

lol…i think u are d one who nid to reconsider properly before u talk…u are saying in china…lol..now im talking bout malaysia…brother….i don feel i nid to be ashame wit myself…bcoz cmon man…who am i meeting…who do i talk to compare to u ….many things u still duno la…u noe how many parts proton reject in d quality control?? instead of perodua??? wat make japan parts is expensive?? dn gv me a answer bcoz of the quality… that is just a small kid answer… one month in quality control, proton rejects around 10% of the parts only ..try imagine, how many bad parts thy receive…perodua at least abit better, 30 to 40%… and such as bmw , merz, thy reject more than 70% of parts in the quality control…so strict…thts is y their parts is expensive…bcoz thy have to cover back all the parts thy reject…cmon la…u talk like u noe…tell mela…since dis is d discussion about proton exora n perodua d46t…how does ur dvvt work out??? gv me pysic coucalation of the chasis of the vehicle….
do u noe one thing b4 exora launch?? dis vehicle is already overload by 200kg u noe??? said by his own rnd u noe..b4 u even go up the car is like its already have 5 ppl in there?? wat will happen if in tht case??? cmon la…even u say i dunno anything…i don mind…bcause lol…u try think properly who r u la…how many years u in dis iundustry…. wat are u doin in dis industry…think la… if my words do make ppl angry…iam sorry…[/quote]

Aiyo,so long speech arr JFLO…ooi brother,the “China” issue is not from me,is from another user which know the car industries better then u. U sound like u know so much,& bongkar so much proton secret,bcarful,later people frm proton sue u,hahaha…btw,i dun need to know how d DVVT work or what,only thing i know is people who bought Proton Exora should not be critisized by people like Christopher, & we also dont need your fantastic-bombastic ideology to tell us that Proton is no good. Yeap,no doubt Proton had so many problems with their previous products such as Waja, but atleast,they try to improve under the leadership of Syed Zainal. The teams also had put so much affort & work so hard to come out with our own MPV,we should give them an applause rather than trashing them around. Btw,i dunno who u r meeting,& i (& other Paultan reader) also not intreasted to know. if u are as u said,so many years in this industry,then we congrate u,coz atleast at here,u show us that u can talk more then u can do,LOL LOL LOL…

vios is a dumb deal, avanza is cheap van, so what? it is a toyota, which has GOA, VVTi, its a fuel saver, and problem free car, and good second hand value. Even malay are proud of toyota and of cos, Honda Vtec, but, Proton is supposed to make malay proud,make mahath1r proud!!!

Read more: http://paultan.org/archives/2009/05/22/perodua-mpv-or-toyota-passo-sette-spotted-again/#comments#ixzz0GPwHmnFx&B
.[/quote]

yes we r proud of TOYOTA.. the reaL JDM TOYOTA.. but not ASEAN and downgraded version marketted to 3rd world countries like malaysia such as AVANZA, UNSER, VIOS ,INNOVA or CITY

If you had experienced stay in Japan (motherland of toyota) u will understand why i said that…

wake up japanese wannabe

PlsWhen ppl are moving forward for new energy source(hybrid/electric car) ,this god darn stupid proton comes out with a WOW CPS engine. 1.6 lagi.

.[/quote]

so this p2 mpv going to use hybrid/electric engine??
prrrfthhh[/quote]

no la, just a cheap 1.5 liter engine of avanza, nothing that can impress a picky proton owner. a copycat engine. not a thunder cat.

PlsWhen ppl are moving forward for new energy source(hybrid/electric car) ,this god darn stupid proton comes out with a WOW CPS engine. 1.6 lagi.

.[/quote]

so this p2 mpv going to use hybrid/electric engine??
prrrfthhh

Only the quality, after sales service, gone down the drain.

Stop telling how big how good is the darn exora. Yea, it makes toyota Alphard ridiculously expensive, but a Toyota is a toyota. and a proton is a proton. They dare to make a car with so many problems, and no recall through out 20 years, and you telling me proton is good?

vios is a dumb deal, avanza is cheap van, so what? it is a toyota, which has GOA, VVTi, its a fuel saver, and problem free car, and good second hand value. Even malay are proud of toyota and of cos, Honda Vtec, but, Proton is supposed to make malay proud,make mahath1r proud!!!

you can rebatch an alphard with a proton batch, and it will sell like hot shit. and you can rebatch exora with toyota, and you can see.

Proton never learn. R&D good means nothing, when the material quality and after sales service sucks. “Proton mmg macam ni, apa boleh buat? ” then you will feel like suicide.

see what happened to Naza Ria, 2 years second hand value is less than half. and a 5 years Vios is still costing RM50k++.

malaysian are funny. they do not understand what is wrong with proton.

Perodua owner are always happier than proton owner.[/quote]
to all ah beng japanese wannabe.. pls listen here..
6 years stayed in Japan, and many years working with japanese comp.. yg sensei always say.. don’t trust and follow 100% from us.. we are human, we also make mistake.. otagai bengkyoshimasho..
yes toyota is toyota.. but downgraded and asean version toyota is not “TOYOTA”

prrrfthh

When ppl are moving forward for new energy source(hybrid/electric car) ,this god darn stupid proton comes out with a WOW CPS engine. 1.6 lagi.

kesian malaysian. Malaysian senang lupa.[/quote]

Proton will be launch the new WRM, using Lancer aka Galant Fortis. Perhaps, using Taiwan model or if they’re smarter using same model brought by Mitsubishi Malaysia. BUT, don’t expect Mitsu engine CPS 1.6 most probably. hehehehe…after two years you can swap a EVO engine and find more EVO X parts to be more impressive look.[/quote]

when they wanna rebatch, rebatch the whole thing. the 1.6 cps is outdated the moment it is on the drawing block. why dont they just change the batch on mitsu lancer 2.0 and sell at tax-free price? everyone will vote BN ( one time at least)

I think you’re right. Silap2 its proton yg test the Toyota/Daihatsu to benchmark Exora and profile the customer to justify their Baseline Manual variant (just a thought – the trade plate is to close for liking, as there are constant usage of trade plate by lots of other cars makers here as well – ask Sirim, RTD and the vendor for that info)[/quote]
Actually ,this is good for Exora owner. indeed.. atleast they know, proton just not doing benchmark with AVANZA,GRAND LIVINA , but they do benchmarking with this upcomping p2 mpv as well…

benchmarking means u compare the strength and weaknesses of each car and you produce the best of the best to your car.

thats why exora is so spacious eventho compared to this mpv, high technology such as BCM ,huge luggage space, alot of compartment, 2nd and 3rd row aircond , high tensile steel and crash test are the result of benchmarking with p2 mpv, Avanza and Grand livina

for sure this mpv desn’t hv crash test rated[/quote]

after benchmarking with all the numbers, pls benchmark also the quality, customer satisfaction,reliability and second hand value.

a new satria neo can burn, how many toyota/honda has burned in malaysia??

Peyno u can talk and you can twist, but when you compare, compare everything. yea, proton has a shiny Rim that looks better than a ferrari, so what?

When ppl are moving forward for new energy source(hybrid/electric car) ,this god darn stupid proton comes out with a WOW CPS engine. 1.6 lagi.

kesian malaysian. Malaysian senang lupa.[/quote]

Proton will be launch the new WRM, using Lancer aka Galant Fortis. Perhaps, using Taiwan model or if they’re smarter using same model brought by Mitsubishi Malaysia. BUT, don’t expect Mitsu engine CPS 1.6 most probably. hehehehe…after two years you can swap a EVO engine and find more EVO X parts to be more impressive look.

3 years ago when p2 came out with myvi… everbody impressed.. woww.. this from passo, sure good one, then they come out viva… wow daitahsu dna..

but now, when they comeout w passo sette, malysians check on the net and make comparison, looks like malaysians are doing some research before make conclusion and comment.. unlike past 3 years ago..[/quote]

I test drove one my friend Myvi 1.3A for about 400km and my 1.8 Japanese brand MPV; the result showed that the T-dna only cost me RM60 for the same road whereas my mpv only RM38 of fuel even though drove at higher speed. (my friend car fitted with 17 inches wheels+spoiler and mine is standard 15″ with no spoiler).

Pity the localized Japanese has rattling dashboard despite of merely first anniversary. So, being a T-dna doesn’t mean better (especially VIVA0- used price drop tremendously unlike other P2).

Pls pls pls copy one car for me, Mitsubishi Lancer (version 10), rebatch, copy, anything, just give me a new lancer(look alike) for RM60k, you can put anybatch on it, just sell me that car at rm60k,ok?

copy the mivec engine too. the CPS is like durian D24, kampung juara. Pls copy everything. pls copy the handling too.

Darn the Produa should copy Mitsu Lancer, instead of toyota boon, if they copy lancer, the damn proton can close shop.

COpy cat = smart ppl, if you think the stupid lazy proton R&D can beat toyota/mistu/daihatsu/honda R&D personnel, go ahead R&D but if you cannot, why dont you just Fxcking copy it???

even American buy cars from JAPANESE RIGHT?????? Who Fxcking invented the CAR????

HENRY FORD!!! and WHO is HENRY FORD???? AMERICAN!!!!

malaysian car VS japanese car= malaysian VS japanese.

bodoh+Malas VS pandai + rajin

how to win??

copy la bodoh!!!!

why would you waste time inventing the wheel, especially when you’re dumber,lazier,need subsidy,need privilage. Even your own ppl loves Honda, why dont just close the damn proton, and let everyone have a Honda VTEC?? Kesian they work so hard to buy a 10 yrs old Honda, and modify kao kao. with the same hard earn money they can buy Honda Type R brand new. Are we malaysian stupid?? Go screw proton.

When ppl are moving forward for new energy source(hybrid/electric car) ,this god darn stupid proton comes out with a WOW CPS engine. 1.6 lagi.

kesian malaysian. Malaysian senang lupa.

better owner ship experience( nothing will fail) and better second hand value. If you prefer lotus handling, go ahead for proton/ lotus elise. Nothing else come close to proton for cheap lotus handling.

If you wan better spec for your money, go get Captiva, RM150k, giving RM40k accessories.

a begger is not a chooser, if you can choose, you’re rich, so dont buy proton anyway.

It has a 2.4l engine that can eat your momma’s 1.6 campro/cps and it is bigger than your momma’s Exora. and its cheaper, RM50k only. Go buy it smart ass.

if you buy a car looking for good spec on paper, buy a nissan vannette.

So if you’re buying a BMW, RM300k, it must be able to bring 20 person, running 400km/h right? becos a cheap Persona RM60k can bring 5 person, and top speed 180km/h.

this is ridiculous, and that is why proton never learn, becos malaysian never understand.

Only the quality, after sales service, gone down the drain.

Stop telling how big how good is the darn exora. Yea, it makes toyota Alphard ridiculously expensive, but a Toyota is a toyota. and a proton is a proton. They dare to make a car with so many problems, and no recall through out 20 years, and you telling me proton is good?

vios is a dumb deal, avanza is cheap van, so what? it is a toyota, which has GOA, VVTi, its a fuel saver, and problem free car, and good second hand value. Even malay are proud of toyota and of cos, Honda Vtec, but, Proton is supposed to make malay proud,make mahath1r proud!!!

you can rebatch an alphard with a proton batch, and it will sell like hot shit. and you can rebatch exora with toyota, and you can see.

Proton never learn. R&D good means nothing, when the material quality and after sales service sucks. “Proton mmg macam ni, apa boleh buat? ” then you will feel like suicide.

see what happened to Naza Ria, 2 years second hand value is less than half. and a 5 years Vios is still costing RM50k++.

malaysian are funny. they do not understand what is wrong with proton.

Perodua owner are always happier than proton owner.

Dude,atleast Proton didnt copycat the whole thing like Perodua always did.I dun understand why u need to be such a dik head whining around about Proton?Open your eyes & look at the 2rd row of the seats,its totally ugly likesheet.I bet its suitable for no brainers like u to sleep on it.[/quote]

Lol…copy?? do u noe where does ur proton come from?? u don even noe…. there is no such thing as copying la…there is only rebranding in this industry.. anyway if u noe wat is good…do u mind buying it although is a rebranding case… will u buy a low quality vehicle which is not copying?? the world is realistic…dis is business… learn more bout auto then only talk…u are not even in d rnd department..wat do u noe bout copying?? lol…[/quote]

Phrase said,
May 24, 2009 @ 1:54 am · Reply with quote

Lol…copy?? do u noe where does ur proton come from?? u don even noe…. there is no such thing as copying la…there is only rebranding in this industry.. anyway if u noe wat is good…do u mind buying it although is a rebranding case… will u buy a low quality vehicle which is not copying?? the world is realistic…dis is business… learn more bout auto then only talk…u are not even in d rnd department..wat do u noe bout copying?? lol…

JFLO – There is such thing in China.. copycat.. haha..even u dont know..u learn more about auto then u talk.. dont simply comment when u are not in the industry

Yeap,JFLO,even urself donno about it.So please study more before u make any comment, “No Such Thing” konon,hahaha,make me LOL. If u yourslef are in the RND,then u should be ashame of urself,muahaha!!JFLO=Jangan Fitnah Lain Orang before studying the possibility of any cases,kakaka…[/quote]

lol…i think u are d one who nid to reconsider properly before u talk…u are saying in china…lol..now im talking bout malaysia…brother….i don feel i nid to be ashame wit myself…bcoz cmon man…who am i meeting…who do i talk to compare to u ….many things u still duno la…u noe how many parts proton reject in d quality control?? instead of perodua??? wat make japan parts is expensive?? dn gv me a answer bcoz of the quality… that is just a small kid answer… one month in quality control, proton rejects around 10% of the parts only ..try imagine, how many bad parts thy receive…perodua at least abit better, 30 to 40%… and such as bmw , merz, thy reject more than 70% of parts in the quality control…so strict…thts is y their parts is expensive…bcoz thy have to cover back all the parts thy reject…cmon la…u talk like u noe…tell mela…since dis is d discussion about proton exora n perodua d46t…how does ur dvvt work out??? gv me pysic coucalation of the chasis of the vehicle….
do u noe one thing b4 exora launch?? dis vehicle is already overload by 200kg u noe??? said by his own rnd u noe..b4 u even go up the car is like its already have 5 ppl in there?? wat will happen if in tht case??? cmon la…even u say i dunno anything…i don mind…bcause lol…u try think properly who r u la…how many years u in dis iundustry…. wat are u doin in dis industry…think la… if my words do make ppl angry…iam sorry…

3 years ago when p2 came out with myvi… everbody impressed.. woww.. this from passo, sure good one, then they come out viva… wow daitahsu dna..

but now, when they comeout w passo sette, malysians check on the net and make comparison, looks like malaysians are doing some research before make conclusion and comment.. unlike past 3 years ago..

Dude,atleast Proton didnt copycat the whole thing like Perodua always did.I dun understand why u need to be such a dik head whining around about Proton?Open your eyes & look at the 2rd row of the seats,its totally ugly likesheet.I bet its suitable for no brainers like u to sleep on it.[/quote]

Lol…copy?? do u noe where does ur proton come from?? u don even noe…. there is no such thing as copying la…there is only rebranding in this industry.. anyway if u noe wat is good…do u mind buying it although is a rebranding case… will u buy a low quality vehicle which is not copying?? the world is realistic…dis is business… learn more bout auto then only talk…u are not even in d rnd department..wat do u noe bout copying?? lol…[/quote]

Phrase said,
May 24, 2009 @ 1:54 am · Reply with quote

Lol…copy?? do u noe where does ur proton come from?? u don even noe…. there is no such thing as copying la…there is only rebranding in this industry.. anyway if u noe wat is good…do u mind buying it although is a rebranding case… will u buy a low quality vehicle which is not copying?? the world is realistic…dis is business… learn more bout auto then only talk…u are not even in d rnd department..wat do u noe bout copying?? lol…

JFLO – There is such thing in China.. copycat.. haha..even u dont know..u learn more about auto then u talk.. dont simply comment when u are not in the industry

Yeap,JFLO,even urself donno about it.So please study more before u make any comment, “No Such Thing” konon,hahaha,make me LOL. If u yourslef are in the RND,then u should be ashame of urself,muahaha!!JFLO=Jangan Fitnah Lain Orang before studying the possibility of any cases,kakaka…

if you guys ask p2 engineers why upcoming p2 mpv come with such stupid design??
they might say… “my big bro japan design like that.. we follow aje laaa”

prrrfthhh

they conn ppl siad the price wud be around 55k to 66k?? yet actually this is the price if same tax deduction given by gov to proton.. but our gov oso not stupid.. how come, this downgraded car assembly company, just change bumper and assemble wanna claim same amout of tax deduction like real car manufacturer/design in house like proton…

initially the price targetted around 70k~80k since this is avanza replacement model and for sure toyota doesn’t want to kill his own car, but after exora was released with below 75k….p2 butt become hot..

wake up ….. dui ….[/quote]
dude.. 3rd row seat of p2 same as exora???
p2 got 3rd row blower like exora??
do you think exora 3rd row seat also super thin papan lapis aka school bus seat like p2??
do ypu think p2 3rd row seat also 50:50 splitted like exora??
look at 3rd row head rest design.. then you know how thin and short the seat is

wake up dude.. prrrfthhh

JFLO – There is such thing in China.. copycat.. haha..even u dont know..u learn more about auto then u talk.. dont simply comment when u are not in the industry

Btw exora auto seems to have decent pickup compared to my gen2 cps manual. It’s quick to move from standstill when traffic lights turn green. I’ve barely managed to keep up with it from behind.

Malaysia make lotus, lotus is a sport car you know? kita malaysia boleh.

Vios is only rm40k, so cheap, our Gen2 is rm50k,so of cos Gen2 is a better car than the cheap Vios, and altis is rm70k, which is no match for our powerful WAJA, with leather seat somemore, HID lamp, and police logo, with rm60k price tag only!!!!

Malaysia make good and affordable car like india(tata Nano,and tata bus,lorry). Malaysia Beats INDIA!! and indonesia and thailand (make cheap toyota only,cheap) Send produa to india!!

All without “lotus handling” car are suck, and 1.5 liter is no match for 1.6 cam-really-pro engine that is the most powerful 1.6 in malaysia market. Proton exora is a true 7 seater for rm80k only and the nearest match is toyota alphard, this produa crap rm70k is a rip-off.

You buy produa, money goes to japan. you buy proton, at least some money goes to makcik cleaner and proton mechanicc. Lets support proton cos its the brainchild of mahath1r, and malaysia boleh, semua boleh!! Apa pun boleh!!

i’ll buy proton like every malaysian do, even tho a lot rather buy a very old honda instead of a new proton, but i love the thunder car logo,and i’ll support proton for making cheap and affordable cars for malaysian. terima kasih proton. and all new proton comes with fake leather just like merdeces, this is really good.