Anyway – look further from daddy’s porch and you’ll see that both big brother jap’s models in neighboring countries enjoy higher specs at a lower price. Yeah – blame it on government policies all you want but at least try to comprehend this – if a Continental CKD can be sold at sub 110k (308?) with incredulous specs, why not the japs? Even the Koreans are coming up with very good models & value for money!

I do agree – after sales, spare parts, maintenance, resale value etc. will all be in the ecosystem of any brand/model/make – irregardless! Some have built up their names through the years and are able to command a hefty *ahem* margin on this ground – and slowly strip their offerings down model after model – shucks – those malaysians are suckers! Let’s reuse the engine, do a facelift, launch as a new model and see if it sells! Oh yeah, let’s strip off the leather, less wood trimmings more plastics etc. as we go. OMG!! It does SELL !!

Why not? We’re so gullible we stand back and preach “THEY ARE THE ONLY CHOICE! ACCEPT THE FACT! ACCEPT!” It’s wonderful what hefty advertising dollars can do for your business.

I don’t know about you, but I find this sad. I don’t own any of the makes you suggest. Open your mind and explore – I’m sure you’ll realise there’s plenty of “NO 2nd hand value” brand/models that you’ll learn to enjoy. TIP : Try Koreans as well – they’re picking up real fast!

Cheers !

In terms of tranmission, i don’t really feel any advantage from the civic 2.0 5 speed gearbox. Yes, the Civic’s acceleration still as fast as previous generation, but the new altis also give a very fast respond in acceleration once you step a bit on the throttle.

In terms of reliability and driving smoothness, this is the major factor why those uncle choose toyota over honda. No doubt the sound proof, suspension in my new altis is far more better than my 1 yr old civic, although most of you would say toyota use cheap beam, lousy material……, etc.

Right now my father not even want to step in the poor honda civic anymore. he is deeply “fall in love” with his “mistress” altis.

Hope you guys before make comments, PLEASE do get a test drive first, DO NOT SIMPLY CRITISIZE BASE ON SPEC OR PHOTOS……

Haa i know u just throw all your hatred to Toyota here, just like how u clear your wet dream.

Come on wake up. Its not all about specs. Its the CAR as a whole.
What good a car with thousands pages of specs but end up rattling plus engine knocking 2 days out of showroom? – normal for Honda Civic. Go to their fanclub websites for a full list of problems.

What good a car that ‘made in Japan’ but end up with jerky CVT and steering vibrates when braking after few month old – happens to Lancer GT

Sylphy is smooth but they failed the thing that they so much advertised; the car ripples on uneven road? And that knocking steering seems to loud to live with.

While in the mean time Altis stays cool and boring. Thats good coz sometimes we need a boring car to get all the other job done!

sporty?

Styling Ahead

>> Sporty front and rear apron plus side skirts and rear spoiler (2.0V Navi and 2.0V)

>> Unique sporty front grille (2.0 Navi and 2.0V)

>> HID headlamps with auto-leveling offers brighter lights and longer visibility during night driving (2.0 Navi and 2.0V)

>> 10-spoke 16-inch alloy wheels

>> Sporty front fog lamps for added safety

>> Eye-catching rear LED lights visible from long distance

Technology Ahead
High-tech interior equivalent to luxury cars

>> Touch-screen LCD navigation system allows you to reach destinations easily through GPS mapping plus Bluetooth mobile phone connectivity (2.0 Navi)

>> Three-spoke multi-function steering wheel with volume controls for the audio system and accept/hangup buttons for the mobile phone, offering high safety (2.0 Navi)

>> Cruise control maintains constant cruising speed with speed increase/decrease control without having to use the accelerator (2.0 Navi and 2.0V)

>> Push start button for increased convenience (2.0 Navi and 2.0V)

>> Smart Entry for automatic door unlocking with a touch of a button (2.0 Navi and 2.0V)

Comfort Ahead
Spacious interior for a comfortable journey

>> 4-way adjustable steering (height and reach) to match driver build

>> 8-way adjustable powered driver’s seat for the highest comfort level (2.0 Navi and 2.0V)

>> 60/40 split folding rear seat backrests for long objects while flat floor contribute to higher passenger comfort

>> Powered windows with jam protection on driver side

Safety Ahead
Outstanding safety standards help protect every life on board

>> GOA safety structure absorbs impact and reduces intensity from crash by dispersing forces to the body structure

>> Automatic headlights with automatic leveling turns on automatically as the vehicle moves into dark area and automatically adjusts headlight height according to the road inclination (2.0 Navi and 2.0V)

>> Rear spoiler with LED type third brake light for added safety (2.0 Navi and 2.0V)

>> Large 4-wheel disc brakes for shorter stopping distance, VSC (Vehicle Stability Control) helps maintain stability while cornering or on wet roads, TRC (Traction Control) prevents wheels from spinning (2.0 Navi and 2.0V)

>> ABS/EBD and BA (Brake Assist) for safe braking in every situation

>> Immobilizer key prevents the engine from being started if the ID code embedded in the key and that stored in the ECU does not match

>> SRS airbags prevents injury for the driver and front passenger during frontal impact

>> Front seatbelts with pretension and force limiters helps keep occupants in place and reduce injuries from impact

>> Five 3-point ELR seatbelts with pretension

>> Rearview camera helps provide safe and accurate reverse parking with video images on LCD screen (2.0 Navi)

>> WIL (Whiplash Injury Lessening) seats help reduce neck injury and upper back in rear-end crash

only old ppl that like old tech and old design will buy this car .[/quote]
What really old tech? Google image yourself >>> axio gt <<<

It has nothing to do with the specs i guess, more like over priced-complacent-uninspired-dated design by Toyota before this. In this case for Altis, it might not work with just the brand it self. And the built quality was not the top notch as well, have a ride in Macau taxis should give you more clue.

only old ppl that like old tech and old design will buy this car .

honda cars have 5 gears so it is better?
bollocks.

so if toyota comes out with 6 gears then it becomes better?
Mazdas has 7 gears so mazdas are better?

cmon design of cars are a matter of taste..
i love the civic design but hate the city design..
some of you guys are being intentionally dense or are naturally dense..when it comes to this department

for those who wants to get cheap cars, migrate or whatever..

there are already too many cars on the road today.. lowering the prices will only make things worst..

i thought altis is ugly but thats just my opinion..
but you can never fault japanese cars reliability and efficiency..

others? i am not too sure..

Hope we can start enjoy cheaper car in recent years…hope…

sure or not but nevertheless it’s better than potong’s campro, low and high only….

the new altis and camry are both CBU from thai. yaris from japan. rush from indonesia the only CKDs are vios, hiace, innova, fortuner and hilux. avanza is assembled at perodua sharing some colours with myvi/viva.

honda city is from thai. stream from japan. previous honda stream also from indonesia. jazz from japan

[quote comment="242150"]will it available in Malaysia?! any news about latest toyota prius in malaysia?[/quote] expect the 3rd gen prius to enter our market towards end of this year. a bit pricey though. [quote comment="242171"]No overdrive?[/quote] the fourth gear is an overdrive. overdrive means the gear ratio is below 1.000 for altis if not mistaken its 0.700. [quote comment="242276"] I don’t think this would challange the civic 2.0. if you notice civic were 5AT, whereas altis still on 4AT (4 gear automatic transmition). So, i don’t think this altis will sell well.[/quote] actually the altis power delivery is better than the the Honda due to the variable valve timing system is continuous. for Honda Civic it is not continuous but a 3 stage phasing (Low, Mid, High) therefore even with 4 speed the performance between Civic 1.8 and Altis 1.8 is not far off. Civic 1.8 is also a SOHC compare to DOHC in Altis. of course, for out and out performance, Civic has the edge.

and with the wood trim, its hardly sporty…