Another facelift for the old Naza Citra?
Thanks to reader awak for alerting me about a new update for the Naza Citra, or should we call it the Naza Citra 1.5 now since there is a Citra 2 Rondo and this particular version is an update to the Citra 1. The old second generation Kia Carens has been given a new breath of life by Naza Kia and is priced lower than the Citra 2 Rondo.
The new design is very curiously Saga-like with a blackened area between the upper and lower center grille on the front end, and the rear design features a new rear bumper with an integrated diffuser-lookalike design.
A quick check on local classifieds sites already reveal many salesmen posting up entries and prices range between RM59,888 to RM65,888, making this one of the cheapest 2.0 liter MPVs around, though what you’ll be getting is a model that first debuted in 2002.
Look after the jump for more images of the new Citra facelift.
June 12, 2009 @ 12:39 am
What’s the point for this facelift… Like it’s going to make any different??! The old one look better…
June 12, 2009 @ 1:09 am
Ha, a Korean car copying the Saga’s front grill! Copycat!
June 12, 2009 @ 1:14 am
Have they do something with its fuel consumption?
June 12, 2009 @ 1:29 am
facelift ain’t gonna help with the sales…
only the blind ppl can be fooled….
June 12, 2009 @ 2:13 am
ya heard fuel consumption is horrible…looks too much like da saga…too obvious
June 12, 2009 @ 2:24 am
No taste… RM59,888 will give u a hideous looking box resting on 4 wheel caps.
June 12, 2009 @ 2:57 am
What an ugly car!!
June 12, 2009 @ 2:59 am
had one… never again…. this car is soooo thirsty..
June 12, 2009 @ 3:10 am
why is everyone saying the front looks like saga and not Audi?
June 12, 2009 @ 3:11 am
omg,front looks like Saga,I wonder why did Naza copy and why did Kia allow.If you see this car at night or in the dark,you would think whether is this the latest Sage facelift by looking at the front or maybe you would think is this the second Proton MPV.Lol.Thats what I might think.
June 12, 2009 @ 3:38 am
it just looks wrong, i think they were looking for the sporty look but seems like they made it look cheap.
the front end looks like a first gen toyota echo/yaris.
June 12, 2009 @ 4:03 am
the car is very ugly to be honest…i prefer the old one…looks more sporty…however the price is very interesting…59k..hmm…might affect exora sales…this is a 2.0
June 12, 2009 @ 4:28 am
Did Naza jz took the Saga’s front bumper out and attached it into the Citra? o.O
I’ve oni got one word to describe the front… FUGLY
June 12, 2009 @ 7:14 am
The reason for this.. just to be the cheapest 7 seater medium side MPv in Malaysia…buy the Rondo! Much better
June 12, 2009 @ 7:39 am
simply ugly and dull…..
June 12, 2009 @ 7:49 am
yeap.. rondo wins the look.. this one kinda back to the future beb.. hermm
June 12, 2009 @ 8:13 am
Naza Citra GS, CVVT 2.0
Leather Seat
ABS, EBD,
16′ Sport Rim
7 Seater, Sunroof, Roof Rack,
MP3 + USB, dual airbag, Safety bar
RM 65,888
IT’S BETTER THAN EXORA.
June 12, 2009 @ 8:58 am
another boring day , boring product from naza…my friends told me if it is originally KIA then quality isnt a problem but if naza rebadge/assembled..then many problem..is it right?somebody to comment?
June 12, 2009 @ 9:57 am
cheaper than Exora 1.6 Campro CPS…
June 12, 2009 @ 9:58 am
Exora is still better than the Citra is terms of spaciousness. Citra last 2 seats only for small children at best.
June 12, 2009 @ 10:21 am
[quote comment="244275"]Naza Citra GS, CVVT 2.0
Leather Seat
ABS, EBD,
16′ Sport Rim
7 Seater, Sunroof, Roof Rack,
MP3 + USB, dual airbag, Safety bar
RM 65,888
IT’S BETTER THAN EXORA.[/quote]
naza citra 2.0 – road tax + insurans permonth + montly payment =almost rm 2000…….haiyooooooooo
proton exora 1.6 – road tax + insurans permonth + montly payment = below rm 1500……..emmmmm
for average mALAYSIA ppl how have average salary……… exora is more batter……..
naza Citra 2.0 3th row = sardin tin……..haiyoooooooooooooo again
proton exora 1.6 3th row = …………….. i dont know what to fill…… even a big ppl can sit…. citra?????
June 12, 2009 @ 10:22 am
Lipas said,
June 12, 2009 @ 8:13 am · Quote
Naza Citra GS, CVVT 2.0
Leather Seat
ABS, EBD,
16? Sport Rim
7 Seater, Sunroof, Roof Rack,
MP3 + USB, dual airbag, Safety bar
RM 65,888
IT’S BETTER THAN EXORA.
I saw the latest Kia Carens if not mistaken with S’pore no plates yesterday. It is very much better. Total new look and the specs is as what Lipas comments. If engine changed to 2.0 CVVT, it is surely GREAT VALUE!!!
Sorry no chance to snap the photo.
June 12, 2009 @ 10:32 am
Ultimate Sohai-kia…yet another unsold stocks to be re’bumper’ed and put on sales just for two reasons..
one: stock clearance warehouse sales
two: try to ‘kacau’ and makan a bit from RM100k below MPV’s market segment…
June 12, 2009 @ 10:32 am
[quote comment="244275"]Naza Citra GS, CVVT 2.0
Leather Seat
ABS, EBD,
16′ Sport Rim
7 Seater, Sunroof, Roof Rack,
MP3 + USB, dual airbag, Safety bar
RM 65,888
IT’S BETTER THAN EXORA.[/quote]
No lah, just like P2 new minivan that still want share the pai but not finishing product. Lots thing they put out and give some face surgery be like Saga BLM. After all Exora way batter than this Naza Citra. Rate than Exora 3/10 (exora 10)
June 12, 2009 @ 10:32 am
7 years in market..
but naza still maintain this car in showrooms..
even put new facelift..
when to see fresh one?
but it’s really a direct rival to proton’s exora..
June 12, 2009 @ 10:35 am
Should change the tail lamp into led, then smart..
June 12, 2009 @ 10:35 am
rate 1. boring, 10. very good
June 12, 2009 @ 10:38 am
naza citra 1.5??do you think this is kind of Mitsubishi Evolution 6.5??
Evo 6 to 6.5 —–>better looks
Citra 1 to 1.5 —–>uglier looks?
aarggghhH!!what’s wrong wif all kia people??sorry man..im used to be pro-naza product..but with this crap idea of product,im really pissed off man..what’s up with the front grill??do you think this is citra A4??come on guys..customer now tend to be smarter la..dont try to bullsh*them with dis creepy idea..marketing guys?product guys?what are you guys have been up to??sleeping??
June 12, 2009 @ 10:42 am
The second hand value sure jatuh kow-kow.
June 12, 2009 @ 10:42 am
There is always a market for this mpv. Demand & supply, don’t blame Naza if people are willing to buy. But one thing for sure, most people who give comment in this forum clearly are not the target market, based on the comments given.
Clear stocks pun clear stocks la, Naza still make money what.
June 12, 2009 @ 10:53 am
Rear bumper like Myvi
June 12, 2009 @ 11:10 am
naza citraga lmst
June 12, 2009 @ 11:17 am
my biggest complain bout this thing is the very obvious saga blm front end copycat design.. im sorry naza 4 asking this, wat was wrong wit the old deign??!! 2 be perfectly honest, the old one in red is actually quite goos lookin.. n that rear bumper deign, OMG, its awful!! i juz dont see the need of making it ugly, it was quite ok previously, n now its ruin!! any potential buyer of this, may i offer u some advise.. do not get a brand new one of this, get a 2nd hand instead.. depreciation is quite bad 4 this car, so u can get a good 2nd hand one quite cheap, n frankly, the old one is much better lookin..
June 12, 2009 @ 11:23 am
Will you buy it if it is RM39888?
June 12, 2009 @ 11:25 am
Naza trying very hard to get rid of their old stock, maybe 2008 model! BLM Citra!
June 12, 2009 @ 11:42 am
[quote comment="244291"]Ultimate Sohai-kia…yet another unsold stocks to be re’bumper’ed and put on sales just for two reasons..
one: stock clearance warehouse sales
two: try to ‘kacau’ and makan a bit from RM100k below MPV’s market segment…[/quote]
there’s nothing wrong with the two reasons, as long as people are willing to buy =)
in fact, isn’t it weird if they have old stocks and don’t wanna get rid of them?
and even weirder if they don’t wanna take as many slices as they can from the market pie.
June 12, 2009 @ 11:47 am
[quote comment="244309"]Will you buy it if it is RM39888?[/quote]
For someone who’s in NAZA’s target market, yes they will…
June 12, 2009 @ 3:50 am
Still waiting for perodua MVP sure makes Naza Citra go down!
June 12, 2009 @ 1:06 pm
Ya, they sure cipta the new ‘padam muka’ face – of all things borrow P1 design BLM. P1 must be proud! Naza flurs not only lazy and incompetent, they’re fiercely into that ‘konek’ look.
Kia would do much better if independent/tie up with somebody else, with their own CBU facilities.
Even Rondo 2009 minus many acessories including footrest! Now what to do with left foot – tendang them ah?
June 12, 2009 @ 1:24 pm
Korean car manufacturers still have big gap to close between their tech and the Japanese. Too far for them to catch the Germans.
…And all Korean cars are fuel sucker.
June 12, 2009 @ 1:31 pm
I dont see anything wrong with this. As someone in the target market for a 7 seat mpv myself, I see this as a good thing. More competition can’t be a bad thing. Even if I don’t buy this.
Someone mentioned that the fuel consumption is bad. Its certainly not stellar but until real world fuel numbers come from the Exora, I still think this is good value for money. that 10k less = $200 less per month for 5 years. More than makes up for the being a little thristy.
ps. when I test drove the Exora, the ave fuel consumption on the display was 16.1L/100. Anyhow you look at it, it was quite bad. I understand that it is new and as a demo car, probably got whacked kao kao but still…..which reinforces the idea that big car with small engine in city driving = $$$
This will appeal to those waiting for the Perodua MPV and those looking for the Turbo Exora (maybe $80k ++). Matches the P2 MPV in price and undercuts Proton for almost $10k. Thats seriously something.
That said, i’m thinking a good time to pick up a 3 year old Citra. With new ones this cheap, maybe can find one for low 30s, pay cash no need hassle of a loan…
June 12, 2009 @ 1:34 pm
[quote comment="244291"]Ultimate Sohai-kia…yet another unsold stocks to be re’bumper’ed and put on sales just for two reasons..
one: stock clearance warehouse sales
two: try to ‘kacau’ and makan a bit from RM100k below MPV’s market segment…[/quote]
and whats wrong with that? Everyone does it. Just look at how many bumper editions from the old Saga..lol
June 12, 2009 @ 1:38 pm
ugly like HELL…
which idiot will buy this CRAP
June 12, 2009 @ 1:49 pm
[quote comment="244324"][quote comment="244291"]Ultimate Sohai-kia…yet another unsold stocks to be re’bumper’ed and put on sales just for two reasons..
one: stock clearance warehouse sales
two: try to ‘kacau’ and makan a bit from RM100k below MPV’s market segment…[/quote]
and whats wrong with that? Everyone does it. Just look at how many bumper editions from the old Saga..lol[/quote]
Dude, that’s normal la, if u would be the CEO of this company, will you do the same to prevent those unsell stock? I would sell it cheap just to have it clear out.
June 12, 2009 @ 1:52 pm
naza only compare with proton, okay lah. DO some different.
June 12, 2009 @ 2:06 pm
NAZA cars are known of POOR reliabilty and POOR after sales services…
They only want to makes profit…
June 12, 2009 @ 2:21 pm
Peeled off Korean logo & apply localised logo to become NATIONAL CAR.
CAYA SAMA SAMA
June 12, 2009 @ 2:29 pm
we should Support our PROTON than those only know rebadge and
reassemble cars like P2 and naza…………..
June 12, 2009 @ 2:32 pm
this car consume FUEL like drinking WATER and expensive maintanance
…….dont consider this CRAP
June 12, 2009 @ 2:32 pm
Why in the world car makers like to follow bodykit trends like those about there?
I basically think it’s ugly. one must know that simply integrating similar bodykit designs of some car model doesn’t necessarily work on the car.
June 12, 2009 @ 2:42 pm
Waited over 2 mths for a Citra GS, since endMac during the sales promotion. The RS was out of stock very fast, it seemed, so advise was to go for GS.
The response was then so good that they withheld many units and did a facelift. They made it look like Saga BLM and raised the price. This is plain cheating by Nasa.
All dealers had been advised by Nasa to revert to promoting the ‘facelifted’ model, citing no more stock. This also means to fork out more $$ without notable improvements. Many had cancelled, some had no choice but to convert and pay more for somthing that don’t look as good as before.
What a scam.
P/S; It’ll at least look better if the bumper is painted.
June 12, 2009 @ 2:53 pm
Sorry the “Nasa” shd be Naza.
June 12, 2009 @ 3:09 pm
this is a TOY car. so ugly especially the bumper. the bumper liked an rotten egg NO SHAPE.Idiot designer and VERYASS PERSON will buy this silly “small size van”car!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
June 12, 2009 @ 3:14 pm
this car is undesigned. the front bumper makes ppl vomit .and so expensive 4 wat????????
June 12, 2009 @ 3:20 pm
Inspired by Hitler’s moustache, even the name sounds like Nazi!
June 12, 2009 @ 3:20 pm
[quote comment="244275"]Naza Citra GS, CVVT 2.0
Leather Seat
ABS, EBD,
16′ Sport Rim
7 Seater, Sunroof, Roof Rack,
MP3 + USB, dual airbag, Safety bar
RM 65,888
IT’S BETTER THAN EXORA.[/quote]
exora also has the things that can justify your statement..
yeap, the price is competitive,..
but then people will consider the space..
and here exora once again wins..
not to say the fresher design exora holds..
June 12, 2009 @ 3:30 pm
you guys are real funny…someone said RM 59,888 naza still make money…then naza must be doing a great job giving value for us consumers. Do realize this is a 2.0 7-seater mpv. and since when did mpv save fuel? ask any naza ria or toyota alphard owner then you know. better still…drive one for a full day.
one more thing…to me dis is great value compared to cars like myvi SE 1.3 selling at a cut throat 54k which also debuted 4 years ago. how much P2 make ar like that?
as usual, malaysians want a mpv that has ten seats, second hand value that is higher than new price ( like a semi-d in bangsar), power like a ferrari 360 modena, sips petrol like a modenas bike , safety feature like BMW 760Li, must have a toyota or honda badge ( the status symbol of “luxury” yet cheap to run only in malaysia), all for the price of a proton saga.
dream on…
June 12, 2009 @ 3:43 pm
looks like naza really worry about the exora sales
that’s why they introduce this ugly facelift…
June 12, 2009 @ 4:03 pm
[quote comment="244301"]There is always a market for this mpv. Demand & supply, don’t blame Naza if people are willing to buy. But one thing for sure, most people who give comment in this forum clearly are not the target market, based on the comments given.
Clear stocks pun clear stocks la, Naza still make money what.[/quote]
Mana lu tau nasa make money???…they clear stock to lost a bit..rather than lost everything then soon became sole loser…
June 12, 2009 @ 4:44 pm
[quote comment="244355"]you guys are real funny…someone said RM 59,888 naza still make money…then naza must be doing a great job giving value for us consumers. Do realize this is a 2.0 7-seater mpv. and since when did mpv save fuel? ask any naza ria or toyota alphard owner then you know. better still…drive one for a full day.
one more thing…to me dis is great value compared to cars like myvi SE 1.3 selling at a cut throat 54k which also debuted 4 years ago. how much P2 make ar like that?
as usual, malaysians want a mpv that has ten seats, second hand value that is higher than new price ( like a semi-d in bangsar), power like a ferrari 360 modena, sips petrol like a modenas bike , safety feature like BMW 760Li, must have a toyota or honda badge ( the status symbol of “luxury” yet cheap to run only in malaysia), all for the price of a proton saga.
dream on…[/quote]
spot on king?that is what the average Malaysian are like. But who can blame them, we were robbed off the right to enjoy real car that has real research and technology in them, just to protect the two P? or rather the fat cat behind them.
June 12, 2009 @ 4:48 pm
[quote comment="244300"]The second hand value sure jatuh kow-kow.[/quote]
good, now can start to look for bargain.
June 12, 2009 @ 4:51 pm
BMW X5 still winnest
June 12, 2009 @ 5:09 pm
there is very good shape and unique color of the car.
June 12, 2009 @ 5:21 pm
come on..!!? please..
June 12, 2009 @ 5:22 pm
ya, can’t agree more with king
DREAM ON MALAYSIANS.
bet most of those bashers never bought or owned/driven MPVs b4.
June 12, 2009 @ 5:48 pm
[quote comment="244355"]you guys are real funny…someone said RM 59,888 naza still make money…then naza must be doing a great job giving value for us consumers. Do realize this is a 2.0 7-seater mpv. and since when did mpv save fuel? ask any naza ria or toyota alphard owner then you know. better still…drive one for a full day.
one more thing…to me dis is great value compared to cars like myvi SE 1.3 selling at a cut throat 54k which also debuted 4 years ago. how much P2 make ar like that?
as usual, malaysians want a mpv that has ten seats, second hand value that is higher than new price ( like a semi-d in bangsar), power like a ferrari 360 modena, sips petrol like a modenas bike , safety feature like BMW 760Li, must have a toyota or honda badge ( the status symbol of “luxury” yet cheap to run only in malaysia), all for the price of a proton saga.
dream on…[/quote]
Yeah…you just describe my dream car man….thanks
June 12, 2009 @ 6:26 pm
I’m with you King!! LOL~~~
On the other hand.. probably say.. this looks like Proton Saga MPV? ^^ put some eyelids on the lights.. that will look much alike..
June 12, 2009 @ 6:43 pm
look closely at the back and you can see a slight resemblance of Myvi SE pre facelit version.
June 12, 2009 @ 7:31 pm
facelift
malaysia cars= exterior changes same interior/engine performance
overseas cars= exterior changes + performane increase
June 12, 2009 @ 8:03 pm
ADUHHHH…hallo Naza’s engineer. got no idea ka???aduhhh…P2 is the winner of bumper and facelift maker..
Totally no idea about this one.headache..haiya..
(Naza man,anda semua xbuat homework ke ape?xde citarasa langsung)
June 12, 2009 @ 8:37 pm
dont like it… look desperate.
June 12, 2009 @ 9:33 pm
this crap is a total waste of time.. wait till perodua’s mpv and proton’s exora squash citra up like a bug…
June 12, 2009 @ 9:54 pm
I like the price.
Naza really know what kind of MPV we want.
OMG, 2.0L MPV only RM59,888 to RM65,888!!!
June 12, 2009 @ 11:14 pm
[quote comment="244386"]facelift
malaysia cars= exterior changes same interior/engine performance
overseas cars= exterior changes + performane increase[/quote]
mostly maybe, but not entirely true =)
June 13, 2009 @ 12:00 am
[quote comment="244355"]you guys are real funny…someone said RM 59,888 naza still make money…then naza must be doing a great job giving value for us consumers. Do realize this is a 2.0 7-seater mpv. and since when did mpv save fuel? ask any naza ria or toyota alphard owner then you know. better still…drive one for a full day.
one more thing…to me dis is great value compared to cars like myvi SE 1.3 selling at a cut throat 54k which also debuted 4 years ago. how much P2 make ar like that?
as usual, malaysians want a mpv that has ten seats, second hand value that is higher than new price ( like a semi-d in bangsar), power like a ferrari 360 modena, sips petrol like a modenas bike , safety feature like BMW 760Li, must have a toyota or honda badge ( the status symbol of “luxury” yet cheap to run only in malaysia), all for the price of a proton saga.
dream on…[/quote]
true…
June 13, 2009 @ 12:11 am
DON’T BUY THIS CAR. IT IS UNRELIABLE. THIRSTY AS HELL. POOR RESIDUAL VALUE AND IT IS NOT COOL…… AND IT IS SHIT UGLY…
June 13, 2009 @ 12:25 am
Senangler kutuk…guna bibir atas bawah…Exora pun ok…tp tk bleh gak nk banding gan nie…buta ke harga cuma 60k enjin 2.0…bagi yg nk pakai untuk jangkamasa panjang rasanya berbaloi beli nie…waranty dia 5 tahun…rambut pun warna lain2 aptah lg citarasa…tk semestinya kita tk suka orng lain pun tk suka…entah2 citarasa kita lagi buruk…he3
June 13, 2009 @ 12:31 am
I’m using Citra 2.0 CVVT for more than 4 years. So far so good. Not much problem. Fuel consumption slightly higher than my previous Wira 1.5 auto. Unless you clock your rpm above 4,500 all the time or try to save money by using cheap engine oil.
June 13, 2009 @ 12:41 am
It’s simple. If you don’t like it, don’t buy it.
June 13, 2009 @ 1:16 am
wow.. ugly betty..
June 13, 2009 @ 1:38 am
[quote comment="244352"][quote comment="244275"]Naza Citra GS, CVVT 2.0
Leather Seat
ABS, EBD,
16′ Sport Rim
7 Seater, Sunroof, Roof Rack,
MP3 + USB, dual airbag, Safety bar
RM 65,888
IT’S BETTER THAN EXORA.[/quote]
exora also has the things that can justify your statement..
yeap, the price is competitive,..
but then people will consider the space..
and here exora once again wins..
not to say the fresher design exora holds..[/quote]
$65,888.Is hard to say whether the Exora wins,some people may have bad experience with proton,so they would go for Citra plus is a 2 litter engine and they think that the power windows is longer lasting compared to proton.Some people would also think that why a big car is using a smaller car engine which is 1.6 cps.I wonder is the exora economical,small engine pulling big car maybe higher full consumpsion cause paddle need to push more.Lol.
June 13, 2009 @ 8:00 am
F-UGLY!!!!!!
June 13, 2009 @ 9:08 am
What to do, Naza don’t have enough money to do R&D, just can design the bumper only…
I think Naza is too concern rivalling with Exora, till dropping their price even before Exora launch.
June 13, 2009 @ 9:44 am
erm.. a bit confuse here. out of topic.
Nissan Grand Livina : Pemanduan seakan sedan, Ciri seakan MPV -iklan kat tv.
mean what? not a sedan and MPV. Then what?
June 13, 2009 @ 10:06 am
hai.. byk sgt basher nih.. ok aper..fresh looks sikit… bukan tiru meniru blm ker haper..sebab semua keter sekrang design dia mcm tuh.. start dari VW sampai la Mitsubishi… one mau mod. saya punya citra masuk bumper ini.. cun seh..
pasal minyak aper nak merunggut dah 2.0 memang la mnyak 17sen sekm.. mau murah pakai kancil..
June 13, 2009 @ 11:20 am
[quote comment="244437"]erm.. a bit confuse here. out of topic.
Nissan Grand Livina : Pemanduan seakan sedan, Ciri seakan MPV -iklan kat tv.
mean what? not a sedan and MPV. Then what?[/quote]
It s hybrid between sedan & MPV~! LOL!
June 13, 2009 @ 11:28 am
i wondering who is the designer of this shit facelift?????????????
please kicked out that designer for the future of NAZA!!!
June 13, 2009 @ 12:09 pm
Right, it is obvious that no-one here likes the new ‘facelift’. That’s putting it mildly.
It’s actually a rip-off to those who already placed bookings for the previous version (the good looking one).. and now having to pay more for it.
It would not be that bad if the front doesn’t look like some cheap toy plastic which even kids would ignore if a toy car is designed as such.
How can this compare to the previous version? Worse.. how do Naza justify the price hike?
Well, this shall definitely add to the ever ‘growing popularity’ of Naza?
Can someone pls get this thru to Naza?
June 13, 2009 @ 12:22 pm
What used to be the best selling Naza MPV, now a bad joke..but it will be on them when they see the resulting sales..
June 13, 2009 @ 1:01 pm
another rubbish on the road, after EXORA
June 13, 2009 @ 1:03 pm
another rubbiish on the road after EXORA
June 13, 2009 @ 1:05 pm
another rubish on the road after EXORA…..reallly not envinromental friendly for our earth
June 13, 2009 @ 2:22 pm
[quote comment="244355"]
as usual, malaysians want a mpv that has ten seats, second hand value that is higher than new price ( like a semi-d in bangsar), power like a ferrari 360 modena, sips petrol like a modenas bike , safety feature like BMW 760Li, must have a toyota or honda badge ( the status symbol of “luxury” yet cheap to run only in malaysia), all for the price of a proton saga.
dream on…[/quote]
hahaha… good one bro.. thats the true malaysian spirit.. lol.. i think its a good buy.. compared to myvi se… just like what u said..
June 13, 2009 @ 2:31 pm
[quote comment="244437"]erm.. a bit confuse here. out of topic.
Nissan Grand Livina : Pemanduan seakan sedan, Ciri seakan MPV -iklan kat tv.
mean what? not a sedan and MPV. Then what?[/quote]
An autobot?
June 14, 2009 @ 12:48 am
who bough this car can cry , last time many bought , then nowadays less nless on road, my house area even gt people’s citra tow away.
perhaps fc high , maintenance high , instalment high for owner unable to settle monthly payment.
many guys tend to buy big cars , but drive moto to work everyday.
Every1 choose their lifestyle , so no need to bother on them also.
June 14, 2009 @ 12:52 am
[quote comment="244318"][quote comment="244309"]Will you buy it if it is RM39888?[/quote]
For someone who’s in NAZA’s target market, yes they will…[/quote]
IF u sell at rm39888 , worst 20k.
I also will worry that the maintenance n parts , and fuel.
but mostly i sked of the maintenance n parts .
I will choose 1st proton exora anytime .
but if u say Naza kia cars , i more willing choose maybe perodua mpv due to maintenance.
June 14, 2009 @ 1:02 am
My kambing frens said the car so ugly..
Why naza keep selling this car?
Bring in fresh lah.
June 14, 2009 @ 10:32 am
hei Kambing,dia org nak habiskan stok tue……hehehehehe.marketing strategy……LOL
June 14, 2009 @ 5:44 pm
vvt or no vvt?
June 14, 2009 @ 9:35 pm
Why banyak komen pasal ria or citra kuat makan minyak………stupid punya komen laaaa…….2.0 v6 perdana, Unser pun kuat gak……Dah mmg kereta 2.0 keatas mmg la minyak lg banyak pakai. Kalau korg. pakai keta produa mmg la tak kuat minyak, tapi nyawa anda fragile le…….. dari viva sampai myvi semua mcm tin milo kalau tak percaya……cuba ketuk dgn tangan kat pintu keta….kecuali old kancil. Walau mcm mana pun rakyat Malaysia patut berterima kasih pada Naza sbb berjaya mengucarkacirkan Proton dan Perodua…sebelum ni depa dua ekoq tu juai kereta mahai nak mampuih….kereta dah la mcm sial, korg. perasan tak sbb naza jual kereta dgn. harga yg kompetitif baru la dua ekoq tu turun harga…….tapi harus di ingat proton dgn perodua masih cuba nak mengabui mata pelanggan dgn. memjual murah kereta tapi cc kecik. nak kata murah pun tak la….Exora 1.6 harga RM75 ribu tetap tak berbaloi…naik genting mcm siput berbanding Citra 2.0 RM70 ribu naik genting tip top….Myvi kereta kegilaan hangpa tu lagi aku menyumpah2, dah la aku beli mahai tapi tayar pancit kalau full load
aku rasa nak sepak ja tak berguna langsung……harap pungkoq ja besaq tapi lugage kecik mcm kancil.
June 14, 2009 @ 11:00 pm
honestly, before this I didnt even want to look at this car. But, at this price, it sounds rather interesting. Anyway, anyone mind to share what is the FC like? cheers
June 15, 2009 @ 1:17 am
Would the 16″ wheel on the GS facelift instead of 15″ add to the FC?
Anyone?
June 15, 2009 @ 3:14 am
[quote comment="244591"]Why banyak komen pasal ria or citra kuat makan minyak………stupid punya komen laaaa…….2.0 v6 perdana, Unser pun kuat gak……Dah mmg kereta 2.0 keatas mmg la minyak lg banyak pakai. Kalau korg. pakai keta produa mmg la tak kuat minyak, tapi nyawa anda fragile le…….. dari viva sampai myvi semua mcm tin milo kalau tak percaya……cuba ketuk dgn tangan kat pintu keta….kecuali old kancil. Walau mcm mana pun rakyat Malaysia patut berterima kasih pada Naza sbb berjaya mengucarkacirkan Proton dan Perodua…sebelum ni depa dua ekoq tu juai kereta mahai nak mampuih….kereta dah la mcm sial, korg. perasan tak sbb naza jual kereta dgn. harga yg kompetitif baru la dua ekoq tu turun harga…….tapi harus di ingat proton dgn perodua masih cuba nak mengabui mata pelanggan dgn. memjual murah kereta tapi cc kecik. nak kata murah pun tak la….Exora 1.6 harga RM75 ribu tetap tak berbaloi…naik genting mcm siput berbanding Citra 2.0 RM70 ribu naik genting tip top….Myvi kereta kegilaan hangpa tu lagi aku menyumpah2, dah la aku beli mahai tapi tayar pancit kalau full load
aku rasa nak sepak ja tak berguna langsung……harap pungkoq ja besaq tapi lugage kecik mcm kancil.[/quote]
what an idiot……
June 15, 2009 @ 9:23 am
no thanks.
June 15, 2009 @ 5:46 pm
[quote comment="244620"][quote comment="244591"]Why banyak komen pasal ria or citra kuat makan minyak………stupid punya komen laaaa…….2.0 v6 perdana, Unser pun kuat gak……Dah mmg kereta 2.0 keatas mmg la minyak lg banyak pakai. Kalau korg. pakai keta produa mmg la tak kuat minyak, tapi nyawa anda fragile le…….. dari viva sampai myvi semua mcm tin milo kalau tak percaya……cuba ketuk dgn tangan kat pintu keta….kecuali old kancil. Walau mcm mana pun rakyat Malaysia patut berterima kasih pada Naza sbb berjaya mengucarkacirkan Proton dan Perodua…sebelum ni depa dua ekoq tu juai kereta mahai nak mampuih….kereta dah la mcm sial, korg. perasan tak sbb naza jual kereta dgn. harga yg kompetitif baru la dua ekoq tu turun harga…….tapi harus di ingat proton dgn perodua masih cuba nak mengabui mata pelanggan dgn. memjual murah kereta tapi cc kecik. nak kata murah pun tak la….Exora 1.6 harga RM75 ribu tetap tak berbaloi…naik genting mcm siput berbanding Citra 2.0 RM70 ribu naik genting tip top….Myvi kereta kegilaan hangpa tu lagi aku menyumpah2, dah la aku beli mahai tapi tayar pancit kalau full load
aku rasa nak sepak ja tak berguna langsung……harap pungkoq ja besaq tapi lugage kecik mcm kancil.[/quote]
what an idiot……[/quote]
yeap.. i agreed… really2 idiott… adaka full load tayar boleh pancit.. ape kena mengena tayar pancit ngan keta jenis aper… nak salahkan keta sbb tayar pancit… mmg pandir la mangkuk nih….. buduh.. itu tayar la mangkuk!!!!!!!! hahahahahaha
June 15, 2009 @ 8:16 pm
[quote comment="244366"]
spot on king?that is what the average Malaysian are like. But who can blame them, we were robbed off the right to enjoy real car that has real research and technology in them, just to protect the two P? or rather the fat cat behind them.[/quote]
what do you mean you’re robbed? you can buy any car you want, as long as you can afford it of course. so whats the problem?
June 16, 2009 @ 12:55 am
this citra could propably be the cheapest mpv in malaysia. Yet, i admit that korean’s car quality better than our proton. But, if you considering about after sales services and resell value, korean’s car are no match for proton. Proton’s after sales services are way better than korean’s but as all you know that proton always got problems, as it’s a contagious problems.eg: first the power window, then the gear box, then brake failure…. and so on. While comparing to perodua, perodua is good in quality, but not so good in safety. So is toyota, toyota is good in quality and safety, but failed in comfort. Nissan failed in spare parts, so is mazda. Honda……em……. a lil’ bit pricy i think. Mers, bimmer, lexus not good for you pocket. conclusion: ride LRT, faster.
June 16, 2009 @ 9:00 am
Naza or Korean car quality are more or less same and sometime worst than proton and perodua. This is based on citra, naza ria, suria and so on. To say perodua is better than proton and naza, think again. Nowday quality are dropping as volume become bigger. go and surf the web loh. I have perodua and a proton, part in perodua tend to go kaput ealier than in proton and the price of the part are more or less with proton.
if one say proton had contagious problem now little bother perodua is getting the same sickness but the big brother nowday seem geeting better than the small one. power window problem, brake problem, gear box are very common problem with the ‘best model selling in 3 years in the row’. The new proton are fairer in this area with the new model. Plus proton are better in the safety side.
Naza or Kia in other hand are worst in this area. Maybe other with Naza rides could explain more.
June 16, 2009 @ 5:54 pm
same old same old….
June 17, 2009 @ 8:37 am
Kalau teruk sangat model citra ni… kenapa boleh jual kat;
1. Amerika
2. Kanada
3. UK
4. Australia
walaupun pasang kat gurun, kedah. tapi kualiti lebih kurang je.
Cuma Naza kena baiki Aftersales Services, ramai owner complain.
anyway keta ni memang sedap bawak jalan jauh.
EXORA GUNA SEAT LOW QUALITY LA, MASUK DALAM RASA MACAM VAN. PROTON JUAL KERERTA MAHAL KAT DALAM NEGERI. NAK JUAL KAT INDONESIA PUN TAK LEPAS LAGI. THAILAND AWAL2 DAH TAK NAK.
June 17, 2009 @ 9:07 am
Lipas,
u must be naza die hard fan or naza sc or working with naza. Anyway, citra is a fuel guzzler and the quality on the engine part are in doubt. We are not talking yet about spare part availibility here or the quality of after sales services.
Seat low quality…masuk macam van?.exora? what kind of bashing is that? I know u hate proton but as a fortune teller, your story on indonesia and thailand is great.
June 18, 2009 @ 4:56 pm
hmmm a citra with out airbags or abg or sport rims
i would use it as a spacious 5 seater with a big boot, like a station wagon. if i am not mistaken its still naza best selling model…
i guess those who bought the citra must not read this forum :p
June 19, 2009 @ 7:13 pm
DEAR ALL !
EVERY BODY BASHING UP THE CITRA. I THINK MOST OF THEM NEVER HAVE ONE. THOSE WHO OWNED IT ONLY NEW WHAT IS GOOD OR BAD OF THIS CITRA. I JUST BOUGHT IT 2 MONTHS OLD , OWNER WOULD LIKE TO COMMENT SOME EXPERIENCES. I USE TO DRIVE WIRA 1.5 SEDAN (1997 TO 2003) AND THE BUY ANOTHER WIRA ABK 1.5 (2003 TO 2009). CONSUMPTION WISE :
WIRA SEDAN & ABK MT : FULL TANK 50 LITERS CAN GO 470 KM ONLY.(1500cc)
CITRA AUTO 2000cc :FULL TANK 55 LITRES CAN GO 430 KM ONLY (2000CC).
YOU ALL JUST CALCULATE BY YOURSELF , DO YOU THINK THAT THE CITRA ARE FUEL GUZZLER ????????
BOTH CALCULATED IN TOWN DRIVE.
ACTUALLY WIRA 1.5 MANUAL COMPARE TO CITRA AUTO 2.0 AT ALMOST AT PAR FOR THEIR CONSUMPTION.
THE WIRA SHOULD BE MORE ECONOMICAL COZ OF THE SMALLER CC AND RUN ON MANUAL TRANMISSION.
June 21, 2009 @ 1:24 pm
another boring day , boring product from naza…my friends told me if it is originally KIA then quality isnt a problem but if naza rebadge/assembled..then many problem..is it right?somebody to comment?
MMG x dinafikan sebab aku owner KIA CBU…
nak compare proton,perodua dgn KIA CBU…heheh..jauh panggang dari api…
NAZA CKD version mmg pakai part local…especially..utk interior…sbb tu HAMPEH>>>tau copycat jek…
June 21, 2009 @ 1:29 pm
Bro Lipas…..Kalau teruk sangat model citra ni… kenapa boleh jual kat;
1. Amerika
2. Kanada
3. UK
4. Australia
walaupun pasang kat gurun, kedah. tapi kualiti lebih kurang je.
Cuma Naza kena baiki Aftersales Services, ramai owner complain.
anyway keta ni memang sedap bawak jalan jauh.
CKD dgn CBU mn sama bro..dr segi kualiti….yg luar malaysia adalah CBU…KIA CARENS bukan CITRA…..NAZA mmg mangkuk tandas dlm bab2 cetak rompak neh….
June 25, 2009 @ 8:55 pm
WELL…. U ALL ” TEPUK DADA TANYA SELERA”…
Ikut kemampuan dan citarasa sendiri… Malaysiakan demokrasi..
Pada yang langsung tak mampu tu nak pakai MPV Murahan spt citra ni, Janganla kutuk lebih lebih… cermin diri… jangan nak kondem aje….
ada $ budget lebih… amik exora… lagi lebih.. amik eastar… lagi lebih.. amik livina…. lagi lebih… amik innova dan seterusnya…. ukur poket sendiri…
yang nak bayar bulan bulan , nak maintain, nak idup roadtax insuran tahun2 DIRI Sendiri….
anak ramai n nak selesa… nak murah??? inila mpvnyer…
nak laju???? beli ferari….
Support produk buatan malaysia walau ciplak…
Bole naza group bagi kerja kilang pada yang takde kerja kat gurun tuh.. Amin.
June 28, 2009 @ 11:10 am
citra is a good mpv, coz my frend already use about 5 years but still have nocomplains. Jalan jauh beb dari tengah sarawak ke hujung sarawak still mantain that is a worst keta ke.
June 28, 2009 @ 5:42 pm
he3…………..
July 2, 2009 @ 6:30 pm
had a very long discussion wit my wife to buy naza citra.
conclusion-will buy although heard/read so many complaints etc.
reason-looking for 2.0 vehicle and this guy is affordable in terms of monthly payment, maintenance and so on.
note-every person has their own pro and contra towards any kind of brand/vehicles and its not wrong. i want to exercise mine
tq
July 2, 2009 @ 10:20 pm
nazarali..
before you book your citra make sure you comfirm with the dealer,,,when you can get your car…i had wait for 3 month and still waiting…REMEMBER, the naza service center is suCk..
July 6, 2009 @ 11:00 am
nevermind that bro DEED… mr. nazarali can stand it… he will get used with it…isn’t it true mr. naza rali??
July 9, 2009 @ 8:12 am
Aku dah 4 tahun guna Citra ni. So far ok.. Minyak memang kuat sikit. Performance memang best. Wish 2.0 & Stream 2.0 aku dah makan banyak kali dah…… Sayur je….. Meter dah habis pedal boleh tekan lagi.
July 15, 2009 @ 1:08 pm
Just bought my Citra this month and today is 15/07 is the launching day of this new facelift. Mine is black.
Hem.. read lots of comment here.. just wondering la, semua kereta dalam dunia ni pandai rosak.. kalau tak pandai rosak takde lah kilang kereta.. memang dah lama lah kilang keta kat dunia ni tutup sebab semua orang yang ada keta boleh guna sampai dunia kiamat.. yang tak rosak ‘jalan kaki’ jer lah..tapi kaki pulaklah sakit.. yang tu baru tak ada spare part.. sebab bas, boats and aeroplanes pun rosak jugak.. hehehehe
July 15, 2009 @ 1:20 pm
Sometimes my friends, you have to be glad for what you have, and for what you don’t have.. just celebrate the differences.. every company has their own stategies and nothing in this world is 100% perfect,, there will always be something wrong somewhere…
Up to that individual, what you think suits you ..just go for it ! because at the end of the day.. its your pocket not someone else’s!! None of us here in this forum will contribute heheheehehehe…
July 15, 2009 @ 4:40 pm
….contribute their RM of course if anytin goes wrong.. its the truth notin but the truth.. big fat small luxury slim power underpower or even kapcai… you have to pay on ur own la.. worth buying or not… try dulu baru tau la.. heheheheeh
September 5, 2009 @ 1:22 pm
most people say FC is high because 1. compare to their saga,wira or waja. 2. referring to the carens 1.8 with an old KIA engine, the citra uses hyundai beta ii engine but the weight of the citra is over 1.5 tons which gives it a slight higher FC, Perdana is actually worst. Using this car for 3 years now and i’m happy with it, after sales are rubbish but outside shops can easily service it plus parts can sometime be cheaper than proton or P2. Paid 70k for it and really value for money, with monocoque chassis compared to van like avanza. New facelift ugly though.
September 6, 2009 @ 12:01 pm
Dear All who commented bad about Citra,
1.firstly to say that korean car are fuel guzzler coz of the weight are heavier , due to safety features. Most korean are more safety than average japs cars. the chasis itself are heavy and withstand impact.
2. Low resale value- bmw,audi, vw, ciroen.peuguet and etc has hiresale value ?
no, right ! why people buy, coz its feature- safety, comfort,quality.stlying and ets, they willing to pay. Korean car also like that , when people buy ,they buy like the germans can offer but not same quality but not bad for it price.
3. Don;t compare 2000cc with 1.5 or 1.6 cc emgine. all engine when fix on different body/chasis have different performance. Ask exora owner and waja cps owner , what the fuel comsumption ?
Every car got its fan. Citra car for those can afford to maintain the service, fuel, mothly payment, r.tax. Who can’t afford just stick to ur affordable one.
If we do some survey about japs cars like nissan.toyota,honda like the budget car (city, vios ) are build mainly for third world country. 1st country seldom buy this car. it is a cheap skate car but highly appreciated by malaysian even they have to pay mountain for the high taxs cars. The spes are only average compare to korean compare price wise.
Your money you decide !!!
adios !
September 15, 2009 @ 9:39 am
WELL…. U ALL ” TEPUK DADA TANYA SELERA”…
Ikut kemampuan dan citarasa sendiri… Malaysiakan demokrasi..
Pada yang langsung tak mampu tu nak pakai MPV Murahan spt citra ni, Janganla kutuk lebih lebih… cermin diri… jangan nak kondem aje….
ada $ budget lebih… amik exora… lagi lebih.. amik eastar… lagi lebih.. amik livina…. lagi lebih… amik innova dan seterusnya…. ukur poket sendiri…
yang nak bayar bulan bulan , nak maintain, nak idup roadtax insuran tahun2 DIRI Sendiri….
anak ramai n nak selesa… nak murah??? inila mpvnyer…
nak laju???? beli ferari….
Support produk buatan malaysia walau ciplak…
Bole naza group bagi kerja kilang pada yang takde kerja kat gurun tuh.. Amin.
Read more: http://paultan.org/2009/06/12/another-facelift-for-the-old-naza-citra/#ixzz0R8Qcj5xS
saya sokong sesgt
dengan harga yang dikira sgt la murah dengan keselesaan yang optimum, saya sekeluarga memilih citra new fclift. mpv ni bkn utk berlumba bw laju2 atas jalanraya mcm kata sorang brader tu nk laju beli ferrari nk murah beli citra. my citra will coming this week. x sabar rasenye.
September 15, 2009 @ 2:20 pm
Hi to all Assholes!
First U kutuk Proton, then kutuk Perodua & then kutuk Naza. What are your actual problems? U want a car for RM 1? That also you will kutuk what because U assholes are very terkutuk.
Naza is cheap but U kutuk, Proton also U kutuk. Later Perodua MPV come out RM 10k lesser than Proton, that also U fuckers will kutuk.
I can’t imagine how your spouses even put up with Assholes like U.
September 15, 2009 @ 11:14 pm
YOUR MONEY UUU DECIDE !
URSELF HAVE TO PAY THE MONTHLY INSTALLMENT.R. TAX, SERVICE AND GOD KNOWS WHATS WILL HAPPEN NEXT.
September 17, 2009 @ 10:18 am
Dah pakai citra 4 years now. Still satisfied with the handling n performance.X penah rosak, alhamdullilah. B4 this pakai waja. Fuel consumption jimat lagi citra. Now waiting for my 2nd car.. Mazda3, frust dapat lepas raya ni
September 29, 2009 @ 12:49 pm
sampai dh citra sy sehari sblm raya. berjalan jauh ke terengganu. ok jer minyak x sampai pun rm200 pergi balik siap jln2 di k.t’ganu. servis di kia k.t’ganu pun ok. sudah pakai br tahu.
November 5, 2009 @ 3:27 pm
Just want 2 selitla here..i bru je berangan2 nk sambar citra this month but all ur comment make me unhappy..but 1 more things “Tepuk Selera tanye Dada”
kalu tye dade amik je..peduli ape org kate..hehehe..idup citra lover’s…
November 5, 2009 @ 3:31 pm
I bru je berangan2 nk sambar citra this month but all ur comment make me unhappy,B4 ni pakai Iswara Kete Kebal tu ha..lgla byk diffrent perfomance bile dh dpt pakai Citra nnt..but 1 more things “Tepuk Selera tanye Dada”
kalu tye dade amik je..peduli ape org kate..hehehe..idup citra lover’s…