Comments on: Mitsubishi i-MiEV Production EV goes on sale! http://paultan.org/2009/06/15/mitsubishi-i-miev-production-ev-goes-on-sale/ Paul Tan on the Automotive Industry Sun, 22 Nov 2009 10:40:21 +0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: scanzew http://paultan.org/2009/06/15/mitsubishi-i-miev-production-ev-goes-on-sale/#comment-245103 scanzew Wed, 17 Jun 2009 04:14:43 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=15689#comment-245103 hope detroit electric will realize their promise bringing pure electric car (PEV) in late 2009....i will be first customer hahahahaha hope detroit electric will realize their promise bringing pure electric car (PEV) in late 2009….i will be first customer hahahahaha

]]> By: scanzew http://paultan.org/2009/06/15/mitsubishi-i-miev-production-ev-goes-on-sale/#comment-244861 scanzew Tue, 16 Jun 2009 03:32:32 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=15689#comment-244861 the only problem with pure electric car is their battery...battery represents 50-70% of the car cost....and burning ur pocket sampai berlubang.... the only problem with pure electric car is their battery…battery represents 50-70% of the car cost….and burning ur pocket sampai berlubang….

]]> By: scanzew http://paultan.org/2009/06/15/mitsubishi-i-miev-production-ev-goes-on-sale/#comment-244860 scanzew Tue, 16 Jun 2009 03:30:25 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=15689#comment-244860 [quote comment="244641"]what will happen if short circuit happen? all system down? anyway.. i'm the first... yeah yeah... (rolling)[/quote] first but second hahahahaha [quote comment="244641"]what will happen if short circuit happen? all system down?

anyway.. i’m the first… yeah yeah… (rolling)[/quote]

first but second hahahahaha

]]> By: SellRonaldoLaFergie http://paultan.org/2009/06/15/mitsubishi-i-miev-production-ev-goes-on-sale/#comment-244856 SellRonaldoLaFergie Tue, 16 Jun 2009 03:04:53 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=15689#comment-244856 [quote comment="244796"]Proton Exora is tax free right? selling at 70k++. if 200% tax means that car is 140-150k! but HELL no.. it can not compete with Toyota wish or or Honda Stream with the same price tag.. So i have a question. how does Proton make up their pricing???[/quote] Haiya... add up all cost for building up a unit plus + handling cost + profit margin + tax by government. U wanna bring down the price can laa... produce more cars laa... becose with same die etc they could ammortize the cost for die making to each part.. It just like building a new school building, using one architect they could build up to hundreds of schools.. so when u average the cost for architect fees per building it will be cheaper than building one house. understand? That's why toyota manage to produce cheaper... they build more volume than P1, and they also own the steel mill, so raw material is cheap.... [quote comment="244796"]Proton Exora is tax free right?
selling at 70k++. if 200% tax means that car is 140-150k!

but HELL no.. it can not compete with Toyota wish or or Honda Stream with the same price tag..
So i have a question. how does Proton make up their pricing???[/quote]

Haiya… add up all cost for building up a unit plus + handling cost + profit margin + tax by government.

U wanna bring down the price can laa… produce more cars laa… becose with same die etc they could ammortize the cost for die making to each part..

It just like building a new school building, using one architect they could build up to hundreds of schools.. so when u average the cost for architect fees per building it will be cheaper than building one house. understand?

That’s why toyota manage to produce cheaper… they build more volume than P1, and they also own the steel mill, so raw material is cheap….

]]> By: peYno http://paultan.org/2009/06/15/mitsubishi-i-miev-production-ev-goes-on-sale/#comment-244824 peYno Mon, 15 Jun 2009 22:15:27 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=15689#comment-244824 one of my japanese friend told me... current hybrid cars form toyota/honda requires battery replacement every two years.. and it costs about 30man yen =RM10k .. is that true?? one of my japanese friend told me… current hybrid cars form toyota/honda requires battery replacement every two years.. and it costs about 30man yen =RM10k .. is that true??

]]> By: turboKev http://paultan.org/2009/06/15/mitsubishi-i-miev-production-ev-goes-on-sale/#comment-244796 turboKev Mon, 15 Jun 2009 16:53:31 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=15689#comment-244796 Proton Exora is tax free right? selling at 70k++. if 200% tax means that car is 140-150k! but HELL no.. it can not compete with Toyota wish or or Honda Stream with the same price tag.. So i have a question. how does Proton make up their pricing??? Proton Exora is tax free right?
selling at 70k++. if 200% tax means that car is 140-150k!

but HELL no.. it can not compete with Toyota wish or or Honda Stream with the same price tag..
So i have a question. how does Proton make up their pricing???

]]> By: turboKev http://paultan.org/2009/06/15/mitsubishi-i-miev-production-ev-goes-on-sale/#comment-244795 turboKev Mon, 15 Jun 2009 16:52:31 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=15689#comment-244795 Proton Exora is tax free right? selling at 70k++. if 200% tax means that car is 140-150k ? wow... but hell no.. it can not compete with Toyota wish or or Honda Stream with the same price tag.. So i have a question. how does the local car Proton make up their pricing???? Proton Exora is tax free right? selling at 70k++.
if 200% tax means that car is 140-150k ? wow… but hell no.. it can not compete with Toyota wish or or Honda Stream with the same price tag..

So i have a question.
how does the local car Proton make up their pricing????

]]> By: csv http://paultan.org/2009/06/15/mitsubishi-i-miev-production-ev-goes-on-sale/#comment-244777 csv Mon, 15 Jun 2009 13:52:46 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=15689#comment-244777 well, japan already starting to build electric charge station and expect total saturation by 2011 or 2015. alot of automakers there prepping to roll out EVs already. they're starting to welcome the future while we're still stuck with our backwater quality diesel and fuel. well, japan already starting to build electric charge station and expect total saturation by 2011 or 2015. alot of automakers there prepping to roll out EVs already.

they’re starting to welcome the future while we’re still stuck with our backwater quality diesel and fuel.

]]> By: BanyakMasukWorkshop http://paultan.org/2009/06/15/mitsubishi-i-miev-production-ev-goes-on-sale/#comment-244757 BanyakMasukWorkshop Mon, 15 Jun 2009 12:06:21 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=15689#comment-244757 [quote comment="244714"]Pay RM165k for a battery toy car, so funny.[/quote] its the price of the future. new technology today might cost a bomb, but in the future, it will just be like any other everyday item we take for granted today, like the mobile phone. [quote comment="244714"]Pay RM165k for a battery toy car, so funny.[/quote]

its the price of the future. new technology today might cost a bomb, but in the future, it will just be like any other everyday item we take for granted today, like the mobile phone.

]]> By: perolapan http://paultan.org/2009/06/15/mitsubishi-i-miev-production-ev-goes-on-sale/#comment-244714 perolapan Mon, 15 Jun 2009 06:44:57 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=15689#comment-244714 Pay RM165k for a battery toy car, so funny. Pay RM165k for a battery toy car, so funny.

]]> By: Alifzzz http://paultan.org/2009/06/15/mitsubishi-i-miev-production-ev-goes-on-sale/#comment-244711 Alifzzz Mon, 15 Jun 2009 06:36:28 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=15689#comment-244711 Hoping so much this kinda car rolls out all over the world. Global warming now start to be dangerous.. Hoping so much this kinda car rolls out all over the world. Global warming now start to be dangerous..

]]> By: bmpower http://paultan.org/2009/06/15/mitsubishi-i-miev-production-ev-goes-on-sale/#comment-244690 bmpower Mon, 15 Jun 2009 04:48:05 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=15689#comment-244690 persona ev at 80K ... cheap what. maybe... i-savvy at 30K .. cheapest what? persona ev at 80K … cheap what.
maybe…
i-savvy at 30K .. cheapest what?

]]> By: howitzer http://paultan.org/2009/06/15/mitsubishi-i-miev-production-ev-goes-on-sale/#comment-244688 howitzer Mon, 15 Jun 2009 04:43:58 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=15689#comment-244688 isnt that a bit too pricey.. guess we whould just wait for proton detroit ev with more milage.. isnt that a bit too pricey.. guess we whould just wait for proton detroit ev with more milage..

]]> By: rexis http://paultan.org/2009/06/15/mitsubishi-i-miev-production-ev-goes-on-sale/#comment-244685 rexis Mon, 15 Jun 2009 04:27:53 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=15689#comment-244685 Btw, since this is a zero emission vehicle, it is completely possible to design it to be waterproof enough to drive underwater. So, Ikeo's worry about short circuit can be prevented easily. Btw, since this is a zero emission vehicle, it is completely possible to design it to be waterproof enough to drive underwater.

So, Ikeo’s worry about short circuit can be prevented easily.

]]> By: rooster http://paultan.org/2009/06/15/mitsubishi-i-miev-production-ev-goes-on-sale/#comment-244678 rooster Mon, 15 Jun 2009 03:53:10 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=15689#comment-244678 This is just at a R&D stage,that is why its on lease. just what Mini-E was doing. This is a full elec car as compared to the hybrid version. MMC is at least one step ahead in the elec car segment. This is just at a R&D stage,that is why its on lease.
just what Mini-E was doing.
This is a full elec car as compared to the hybrid version.
MMC is at least one step ahead in the elec car segment.

]]> By: steven http://paultan.org/2009/06/15/mitsubishi-i-miev-production-ev-goes-on-sale/#comment-244670 steven Mon, 15 Jun 2009 03:17:00 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=15689#comment-244670 165K .. in yen ?? how about + Tax ?? . . . . . can buy x5 viva 660cc 165K .. in yen ?? how about + Tax ?? . . . . . can buy x5 viva 660cc

]]> By: Ikeo http://paultan.org/2009/06/15/mitsubishi-i-miev-production-ev-goes-on-sale/#comment-244641 Ikeo Mon, 15 Jun 2009 00:45:07 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=15689#comment-244641 what will happen if short circuit happen? all system down? anyway.. i'm the first... yeah yeah... (rolling) what will happen if short circuit happen? all system down?

anyway.. i’m the first… yeah yeah… (rolling)

]]> By: rexis http://paultan.org/2009/06/15/mitsubishi-i-miev-production-ev-goes-on-sale/#comment-244639 rexis Mon, 15 Jun 2009 00:37:18 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=15689#comment-244639 4.6million yen/RM165k, thats the kind of price to get rid of evil oil companies now. But I bet somehow one day when oil depleted, all oil companies will become battery companies. They will have all the resources required to produce a below RM2000 battery system that can last for half the life time of the vehicle. Paul, how about the Malaysian tax structure now? I heard they are giving tax discount to green vehicles like the Civic Hybrid? 4.6million yen/RM165k, thats the kind of price to get rid of evil oil companies now.

But I bet somehow one day when oil depleted, all oil companies will become battery companies. They will have all the resources required to produce a below RM2000 battery system that can last for half the life time of the vehicle.

Paul, how about the Malaysian tax structure now? I heard they are giving tax discount to green vehicles like the Civic Hybrid?

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