Comments on: 8 FOTA members announce new breakaway race series, RIP Formula 1? http://paultan.org/2009/06/19/8-fota-members-announce-new-breakaway-race-series-rip-formula-1/ Paul Tan on the Automotive Industry Sun, 22 Nov 2009 07:59:29 +0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: r_raving http://paultan.org/2009/06/19/8-fota-members-announce-new-breakaway-race-series-rip-formula-1/#comment-246518 r_raving Wed, 24 Jun 2009 14:18:48 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=15849#comment-246518 lepas ni asyik ferrari je la yang menang....macam la best sangat kalau anda new championship...formula one dh memang boring dh sekarang ni... lepas ni asyik ferrari je la yang menang….macam la best sangat kalau anda new championship…formula one dh memang boring dh sekarang ni…

]]> By: PROTON in FOTA?? http://paultan.org/2009/06/19/8-fota-members-announce-new-breakaway-race-series-rip-formula-1/#comment-246126 PROTON in FOTA?? Mon, 22 Jun 2009 15:15:56 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=15849#comment-246126 It is expected a new high level of racing motorsports from FOTA for world leader in automotive industry! revival of V10 high performance engine!!! the engine that can reach 400km speed! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeqZZyHLW3Q HONDA will come back to this high level of racing motorsports ^^ Mario Thiessen from BMW said said Volkswagen want to join FOTA.. it is really good to have VW, Porsche, AUDI, Bugatti in the high level of racing motorsports together! official website of FOTA http://www.teamsassociation.org/ It is expected a new high level of racing motorsports from FOTA for world leader in automotive industry!

revival of V10 high performance engine!!! the engine that can reach 400km speed!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeqZZyHLW3Q

HONDA will come back to this high level of racing motorsports ^^
Mario Thiessen from BMW said said Volkswagen want to join FOTA.. it is really good to have VW, Porsche, AUDI, Bugatti in the high level of racing motorsports together!

official website of FOTA
http://www.teamsassociation.org/

]]> By: I my http://paultan.org/2009/06/19/8-fota-members-announce-new-breakaway-race-series-rip-formula-1/#comment-246075 I my Mon, 22 Jun 2009 09:40:53 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=15849#comment-246075 so will the wrc do the same too? so will the wrc do the same too?

]]> By: nighttrain http://paultan.org/2009/06/19/8-fota-members-announce-new-breakaway-race-series-rip-formula-1/#comment-246019 nighttrain Mon, 22 Jun 2009 05:36:26 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=15849#comment-246019 Back to V10s. Upgrade safety, unlimited open tyre design, super high tech cars, cheaper tickets. It's going to be expensive to run teams here folks. Exciting years to come. Now the idiot Americans will see the full fury of Grand Prix, they're always saying NASCAR and KART is better, faster and more exciting. Hpoefully the tech will trickle down to streetcars like KERS. Back to V10s. Upgrade safety, unlimited open tyre design, super high tech cars, cheaper tickets. It’s going to be expensive to run teams here folks. Exciting years to come. Now the idiot Americans will see the full fury of Grand Prix, they’re always saying NASCAR and KART is better, faster and more exciting. Hpoefully the tech will trickle down to streetcars like KERS.

]]> By: JULIAN_LEE http://paultan.org/2009/06/19/8-fota-members-announce-new-breakaway-race-series-rip-formula-1/#comment-245941 JULIAN_LEE Mon, 22 Jun 2009 01:14:22 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=15849#comment-245941 No more F1~ No more F1~

]]> By: samlee860407 http://paultan.org/2009/06/19/8-fota-members-announce-new-breakaway-race-series-rip-formula-1/#comment-245932 samlee860407 Mon, 22 Jun 2009 00:44:04 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=15849#comment-245932 good bye FIA, max and Ecclestone is too ignorant, let them gone in ashes! :D good bye FIA, max and Ecclestone is too ignorant, let them gone in ashes! :D

]]> By: F1 vs FOTA http://paultan.org/2009/06/19/8-fota-members-announce-new-breakaway-race-series-rip-formula-1/#comment-245909 F1 vs FOTA Sun, 21 Jun 2009 21:04:16 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=15849#comment-245909 Nice. no more ugly looking car. bring on all the new technology. bring out all the best of an engine, a car. no more stupid limitation. --- I am agree with you.. is there anybody want to develop Wankel/Rotary engine.. that is german technology also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wankel_engine http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Felix_Wankel Germany is the best place to study engineering, German are the real master of engineering.. I watched Super GT, MUTIARA MOTORSPORTS from MALAYSIA currently leading the SUPER GT GT300 class.. bravo with the rotary/wankel engine.. it is a very powerful engine, that's why helicopter also use that type of engine (the only big problem is, it really consume alot of fuel) Nice. no more ugly looking car. bring on all the new technology. bring out all the best of an engine, a car. no more stupid limitation.
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I am agree with you.. is there anybody want to develop Wankel/Rotary engine.. that is german technology also

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wankel_engine
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Felix_Wankel

Germany is the best place to study engineering, German are the real master of engineering.. I watched Super GT, MUTIARA MOTORSPORTS from MALAYSIA currently leading the SUPER GT GT300 class.. bravo with the rotary/wankel engine.. it is a very powerful engine, that’s why helicopter also use that type of engine (the only big problem is, it really consume alot of fuel)

]]> By: ReactiX http://paultan.org/2009/06/19/8-fota-members-announce-new-breakaway-race-series-rip-formula-1/#comment-245896 ReactiX Sun, 21 Jun 2009 17:14:49 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=15849#comment-245896 Nice. no more ugly looking car. bring on all the new technology. bring out all the best of an engine, a car. no more stupid limitation. Nice. no more ugly looking car. bring on all the new technology. bring out all the best of an engine, a car. no more stupid limitation.

]]> By: F0 http://paultan.org/2009/06/19/8-fota-members-announce-new-breakaway-race-series-rip-formula-1/#comment-245872 F0 Sun, 21 Jun 2009 08:52:49 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=15849#comment-245872 The old king is dead, long live the king!! The old king is dead, long live the king!!

]]> By: abc http://paultan.org/2009/06/19/8-fota-members-announce-new-breakaway-race-series-rip-formula-1/#comment-245860 abc Sun, 21 Jun 2009 05:21:03 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=15849#comment-245860 Thats the result of Mosley's idiotic decision...brainless Thats the result of Mosley’s idiotic decision…brainless

]]> By: free4allf1 http://paultan.org/2009/06/19/8-fota-members-announce-new-breakaway-race-series-rip-formula-1/#comment-245849 free4allf1 Sun, 21 Jun 2009 02:10:52 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=15849#comment-245849 agree with cocobear lol i want 400kph new race car. agree with cocobear
lol i want 400kph new race car.

]]> By: CocoBear http://paultan.org/2009/06/19/8-fota-members-announce-new-breakaway-race-series-rip-formula-1/#comment-245839 CocoBear Sat, 20 Jun 2009 20:49:19 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=15849#comment-245839 What a bold and clever move! A good governing body will stimulate tech advancement while promoting fair competition. U will never get the REAL excitement from stereotyped race car like in the A1and the American series. F1 is going to the drain, but not the spirit of F1. What a bold and clever move!

A good governing body will stimulate tech advancement while promoting fair competition. U will never get the REAL excitement from stereotyped race car like in the A1and the American series. F1 is going to the drain, but not the spirit of F1.

]]> By: tansri http://paultan.org/2009/06/19/8-fota-members-announce-new-breakaway-race-series-rip-formula-1/#comment-245808 tansri Sat, 20 Jun 2009 14:58:57 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=15849#comment-245808 so this is then a good news to the whole industry.. Sepang circuit will have one more race in their planner.. smaller team might be in the old F1, proton , tata etc.. the new and old f1 might have some ticket price war, good for spectators.. the badnews>>>A1 will less popular..hehe so this is then a good news to the whole industry..
Sepang circuit will have one more race in their planner..
smaller team might be in the old F1, proton , tata etc..
the new and old f1 might have some ticket price war, good for spectators..

the badnews>>>A1 will less popular..hehe

]]> By: bkk http://paultan.org/2009/06/19/8-fota-members-announce-new-breakaway-race-series-rip-formula-1/#comment-245806 bkk Sat, 20 Jun 2009 14:52:25 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=15849#comment-245806 great news ! F1 changed for the worse these few years i stop watching F1 after F1 introduced so many stupid changes to the sport. The last straw was to introduce a standard engine ! F1 trying to be A1 ? Sepang should cancel the contract to host F1 and go for the new series. great news ! F1 changed for the worse these few years i stop watching F1 after F1 introduced so many stupid changes to the sport. The last straw was to introduce a standard engine ! F1 trying to be A1 ? Sepang should cancel the contract to host F1 and go for the new series.

]]> By: albagmane http://paultan.org/2009/06/19/8-fota-members-announce-new-breakaway-race-series-rip-formula-1/#comment-245769 albagmane Sat, 20 Jun 2009 09:24:18 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=15849#comment-245769 bye bye F1, Mosley u can go to hell now... kthxbai! bye bye F1, Mosley u can go to hell now… kthxbai!

]]> By: free4allf1 http://paultan.org/2009/06/19/8-fota-members-announce-new-breakaway-race-series-rip-formula-1/#comment-245765 free4allf1 Sat, 20 Jun 2009 08:29:44 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=15849#comment-245765 even brawn gp know where to go. f1 is about technology. sponsor would prefer see technology rather than the same thing.fia rule changing is too much,look at brawn gp just because of wing setup they are the runaway leader right now(other team cant made any adjustment).i want to see free for all tech that can be use anytime at races. the only rules that apply to all teams is hp and weight. even brawn gp know where to go. f1 is about technology. sponsor would prefer see technology rather than the same thing.fia rule changing is too much,look at brawn gp just because of wing setup they are the runaway leader right now(other team cant made any adjustment).i want to see free for all tech that can be use anytime at races. the only rules that apply to all teams is hp and weight.

]]> By: kickass http://paultan.org/2009/06/19/8-fota-members-announce-new-breakaway-race-series-rip-formula-1/#comment-245761 kickass Sat, 20 Jun 2009 07:42:09 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=15849#comment-245761 mosley has been talking loudly F1 can continue without the rebels and yet FIA is suing..wondering where's his ball..this gay should stop talking big.. mosley has been talking loudly F1 can continue without the rebels and yet FIA is suing..wondering where’s his ball..this gay should stop talking big..

]]> By: f1 http://paultan.org/2009/06/19/8-fota-members-announce-new-breakaway-race-series-rip-formula-1/#comment-245735 f1 Sat, 20 Jun 2009 03:20:46 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=15849#comment-245735 no wonder i sneezed alot today coz all of u r talking bout me. wakakak! hip hip hurray no more being drag by the nose to walk by fia now that will b a breakaway series thats been dreaming for so long. Bernie & max thought that d ratings of d sport is lacking fans well after this there wont b any fans watching f1 anymore. Dont think these 2 gonna let go that easy & definately there b court cases coming. no wonder i sneezed alot today coz all of u r talking bout me. wakakak!
hip hip hurray no more being drag by the nose to walk by fia now that
will b a breakaway series thats been dreaming for so long.

Bernie & max thought that d ratings of d sport is lacking fans well after
this there wont b any fans watching f1 anymore. Dont think these 2 gonna
let go that easy & definately there b court cases coming.

]]> By: szw http://paultan.org/2009/06/19/8-fota-members-announce-new-breakaway-race-series-rip-formula-1/#comment-245725 szw Sat, 20 Jun 2009 02:07:24 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=15849#comment-245725 FIA wanted to sue FOTA now. FIA is definitely getting boycott by everyone including fans i bet anyone agrees ? FIA wanted to sue FOTA now.
FIA is definitely getting boycott by everyone including fans i bet
anyone agrees ?

]]> By: PROTON german engineering http://paultan.org/2009/06/19/8-fota-members-announce-new-breakaway-race-series-rip-formula-1/#comment-245705 PROTON german engineering Fri, 19 Jun 2009 19:54:38 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=15849#comment-245705 jimbet wrote.. is there such thing to have vote of no confidence to both bernie and mosley? :P ______ very good suggestion.. F1 reality show?? surely then F1 will make alot of money like Akademi Fantasia..LOL jimbet wrote..

is there such thing to have vote of no confidence to both bernie and mosley? :P
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very good suggestion.. F1 reality show?? surely then F1 will make alot of money like Akademi Fantasia..LOL

]]> By: mediocre_genius http://paultan.org/2009/06/19/8-fota-members-announce-new-breakaway-race-series-rip-formula-1/#comment-245700 mediocre_genius Fri, 19 Jun 2009 18:33:15 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=15849#comment-245700 Team Lotus, is not part of the real Lotus group, its jst some other team riding on the Lotus' name. Ford does not own Jag anymore if im not mistaken. As of now, track contracts are still exclusively with F1, so we may not have the breakaway series here for awhile. and even if we do, do not expect a price drop, as tickets are one of the cheapest in the world. and tobacco companies are not gonna sponsor anymore cuz in many countries, the advertising of tobacco is banned. there is no use sponsoring if their names are not gonna be used. The mandatory tire changes were to bring about competitveness and team strategy, which does call for great spectator sports. so that is understandable. the budget cap is the straw that broke the camel's back, and FOTA has decided, it can do without the FIA. and since this is gonna be run by FOTA, do not expect low budget teams to compete. it is going to be jst as glamorous and big as F1, without the nonsensical monopolistic politics. Team Lotus, is not part of the real Lotus group, its jst some other team riding on the Lotus’ name. Ford does not own Jag anymore if im not mistaken. As of now, track contracts are still exclusively with F1, so we may not have the breakaway series here for awhile. and even if we do, do not expect a price drop, as tickets are one of the cheapest in the world. and tobacco companies are not gonna sponsor anymore cuz in many countries, the advertising of tobacco is banned. there is no use sponsoring if their names are not gonna be used.
The mandatory tire changes were to bring about competitveness and team strategy, which does call for great spectator sports. so that is understandable.
the budget cap is the straw that broke the camel’s back, and FOTA has decided, it can do without the FIA.
and since this is gonna be run by FOTA, do not expect low budget teams to compete. it is going to be jst as glamorous and big as F1, without the nonsensical monopolistic politics.

]]> By: Kerel Bort http://paultan.org/2009/06/19/8-fota-members-announce-new-breakaway-race-series-rip-formula-1/#comment-245697 Kerel Bort Fri, 19 Jun 2009 18:21:03 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=15849#comment-245697 This will just divide the fan... will GPWC come to Sepang? This might not yet been finalized yet right? but given Petronas going with their Team BMW Sauber, they might fight to bring it here in Malaysia. Ecclest promote financial prudent rules but he himself going against it all with his own butler, chef and container of household he drag with himself to all the F1 series. Hope GPWC would try to tag a green effort in their new series. Maybe diesel power F1 car?(errr... it wont be called F1 car anymore... err racemachine..) or an EV race machine. I wont be surprised if China car company join the new F1. Go DongFeng! or BYD. or Geely or the other 17 car company or whatever.. @FI vs FOTA.. whoops.. Jaguar owns by Tata no more Ford. Made In India Britain Proud. No more alike of British's East India Company more like India's East British Company This will just divide the fan… will GPWC come to Sepang? This might not yet been finalized yet right? but given Petronas going with their Team BMW Sauber, they might fight to bring it here in Malaysia.

Ecclest promote financial prudent rules but he himself going against it all with his own butler, chef and container of household he drag with himself to all the F1 series.

Hope GPWC would try to tag a green effort in their new series. Maybe diesel power F1 car?(errr… it wont be called F1 car anymore… err racemachine..) or an EV race machine.

I wont be surprised if China car company join the new F1. Go DongFeng! or BYD. or Geely or the other 17 car company or whatever..

@FI vs FOTA.. whoops.. Jaguar owns by Tata no more Ford. Made In India Britain Proud. No more alike of British’s East India Company more like India’s East British Company

]]> By: jimbet http://paultan.org/2009/06/19/8-fota-members-announce-new-breakaway-race-series-rip-formula-1/#comment-245696 jimbet Fri, 19 Jun 2009 17:51:09 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=15849#comment-245696 is there such thing to have vote of no confidence to both bernie and mosley? :P is there such thing to have vote of no confidence to both bernie and mosley? :P

]]> By: mytouch http://paultan.org/2009/06/19/8-fota-members-announce-new-breakaway-race-series-rip-formula-1/#comment-245692 mytouch Fri, 19 Jun 2009 17:17:21 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=15849#comment-245692 Yes!!Bravo to FOTA for taking this brave but clever move.They shown that they are not eazy to be squeezed by the pathetic FIA rules...looking forward to watch the new series next season...holllaa!! Yes!!Bravo to FOTA for taking this brave but clever move.They shown that they are not eazy to be squeezed by the pathetic FIA rules…looking forward to watch the new series next season…holllaa!!

]]> By: szw http://paultan.org/2009/06/19/8-fota-members-announce-new-breakaway-race-series-rip-formula-1/#comment-245686 szw Fri, 19 Jun 2009 16:51:45 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=15849#comment-245686 i stop F1, screw u bernie i stop F1, screw u bernie

]]> By: asahiyakuza http://paultan.org/2009/06/19/8-fota-members-announce-new-breakaway-race-series-rip-formula-1/#comment-245680 asahiyakuza Fri, 19 Jun 2009 16:01:16 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=15849#comment-245680 Definitely a good news. F1 should be the ultimate car races with the best car engineering and technologies... The new limitation introduce just killing the competition.. I lose interest after they killed the V10 engine... Would love to see an unlimited racing car series-in terms of engine, car design, techies... (maybe safety should be the only limitation for the car)... Can't wait to see where this is going... Definitely a good news. F1 should be the ultimate car races with the best car engineering and technologies… The new limitation introduce just killing the competition.. I lose interest after they killed the V10 engine… Would love to see an unlimited racing car series-in terms of engine, car design, techies… (maybe safety should be the only limitation for the car)… Can’t wait to see where this is going…

]]> By: F1..FOTA http://paultan.org/2009/06/19/8-fota-members-announce-new-breakaway-race-series-rip-formula-1/#comment-245665 F1..FOTA Fri, 19 Jun 2009 15:13:31 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=15849#comment-245665 most probably LOTUS TEAM (backed by parent company PROTON) will return to F1.. and also Brabham.. and maybe General Motors Chevrolet? Opel? will join F1.. F1 will go retro without Ferrari but for FOTA "Grand Prix".. most probabaly the German giant company Volkswagen (VW) will join them..VW said this "An entry (to F1) within the next three years is, however, not realistic. There are still uncertainties in the regulations – [like] the engine freeze." - Volkswagen.. actually Volkswagen really interested competing with bmw, ferrari, toyota, renault and others but really hate F1 management. BMW Motorsport Director Dr Mario Theissen invited Volkswagen with their subsidiaries Porsche, Audi, Bugatti Veyron to join them in F1 or FOTA.. most probably in FOTA http://www.crash.net/Formula+One/News/62877/1/f1_not_realistic_for_vw_in_next_three_years.html it is interesting that next year we will have F1 and "ex-F1" most probably LOTUS TEAM (backed by parent company PROTON) will return to F1.. and also Brabham.. and maybe General Motors Chevrolet? Opel? will join F1.. F1 will go retro without Ferrari

but for FOTA “Grand Prix”.. most probabaly the German giant company Volkswagen (VW) will join them..VW said this

“An entry (to F1) within the next three years is, however, not realistic. There are still uncertainties in the regulations – [like] the engine freeze.” – Volkswagen.. actually Volkswagen really interested competing with bmw, ferrari, toyota, renault and others but really hate F1 management.

BMW Motorsport Director Dr Mario Theissen invited Volkswagen with their subsidiaries Porsche, Audi, Bugatti Veyron to join them in F1 or FOTA.. most probably in FOTA

http://www.crash.net/Formula+One/News/62877/1/f1_not_realistic_for_vw_in_next_three_years.html

it is interesting that next year we will have F1 and “ex-F1″

]]> By: Crasher http://paultan.org/2009/06/19/8-fota-members-announce-new-breakaway-race-series-rip-formula-1/#comment-245662 Crasher Fri, 19 Jun 2009 15:00:46 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=15849#comment-245662 I think this show how much the teams are disappointed and furious with FIA president and supremo Max Mosley & Bernie Eclesstone... Both of them are actually destroying the F1 series that are so fun to watch for 60 years I think this show how much the teams are disappointed and furious with FIA president and supremo Max Mosley & Bernie Eclesstone… Both of them are actually destroying the F1 series that are so fun to watch for 60 years

]]> By: iceman http://paultan.org/2009/06/19/8-fota-members-announce-new-breakaway-race-series-rip-formula-1/#comment-245660 iceman Fri, 19 Jun 2009 14:56:32 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=15849#comment-245660 yeah..bring back the old 3000cc v10 engine.. yeah..bring back the old 3000cc v10 engine..

]]> By: PROTON german engineering http://paultan.org/2009/06/19/8-fota-members-announce-new-breakaway-race-series-rip-formula-1/#comment-245658 PROTON german engineering Fri, 19 Jun 2009 14:41:25 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=15849#comment-245658 most probably German giant cars maker Volkswagen with the subsidiaries AUDI, PORSCHE, BUGATTI VEYRON will join FOTA last year BMW Motorsport Director Dr Mario Theissen invited their German friends to join them in FOTA, BMW know Volkswagen really hate F1 current management. http://www.crash.net/Formula+One/News/62877/1/f1_not_realistic_for_vw_in_next_three_years.html most probably German giant cars maker Volkswagen with the subsidiaries AUDI, PORSCHE, BUGATTI VEYRON will join FOTA

last year BMW Motorsport Director Dr Mario Theissen invited their German friends to join them in FOTA, BMW know Volkswagen really hate F1 current management.

http://www.crash.net/Formula+One/News/62877/1/f1_not_realistic_for_vw_in_next_three_years.html

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