compare within Wish and Stream definately the Stream good in fuel consumption.

I heard a lot through my boss who was use toyota brands such as Estima,Unser and altis. Toyota have bad handling with too soft suspension but sure still feel safety,and Honda have good handling at all.

You can watch from youtube which japan was make the comparison,and a lot of honda brand were powerful and nice drive.

i dont know about engine but in my point of view, if engine 4 gear equal to 5 gear that mean.. the 4 gear is good enough compare with 5 gear.

i plan to have mpv.. but i dont know which 1 to buy.. wish or stream

http://www.honda.co.jp/STREAM/type/type_RST/

For info this 2nd Gen Stream launched in June 2006 and Honda Malaysia having many hurdles to bring this model to our homeshore as this models only limited to Japan and East Asia (HK, China only gets 1.8L) as other part of the world will be getting a smaller scale MPV on Honda's global small car platform which turns to be Honda Freed…eventually will be supplied to asean countries from Indonesia. After many negotiations, backed by HM counterpart in Singapore (Kah Motor) where they suffered more from the grey importer; Honda Motor finally released their 1.8 model (very basic one, even the rims are locally fitted) for Singapore then Malaysia…almost a year and a half after launched in Japan. So there goes…ONLY Malaysia & Singapore have this MPV in their model line up..very basic 1.8 model. Since it was too 'kosong'…product planners from Kah Motor Sing & HM managed to request for the sunroof version to be imported from Japan..We will never get the 2.0 version, reason very simple…Too many complains for CVT..definate no-no to be sold outside Japan. But we can still have from Naza or other importer with exorbitant price tag..damn AP kings! So now in 2009 finally Honda Japan allowed HM to the RSZ 1.8 model to sold here..maybe to clear stock before RST hit Japan showroom? I dont know…dont ask..

this RST look much better than mine like 2 tone interior, side mirror lamps, contoller in steeering, and the tail lights look great

but the grille just so so… look like accord

my friend in HK bought RSZ end of 2006, here only launch at 2009… this model may wait few years come to Malaysia

So i owned stream rsz now, if compare with airtrek, hmm. i think stream less power with airtrek, but handling stream is just like driving normal saloon car + point for it. Stream FC far more better than airtrek.

if compare with stream with wish, i think both the same. for info i haven't drive wish before but i sat on it before so can feel the performance. but if the RM150k i will not go for a 2nd hand wish.

just my 2 cents worth of opinion.

Is that really matter the projector lights does matter or the whole look?

like a altis compare to civic… OMG no need compare, but still got ppl buy new altis =.= some said because of the electronic seat…. if the car is for ur own, how often u play with ur electronic seat? damn when i drive a car, i prefer the feel, the gadget, the technology the safisfaction and the LOOK.

Honda create a car to suite the customers need with safety, tech, etc even do the price is not as competitve as toyota, but because honda knows how important the safety, not like toyota, example vios e spec a single airbag? OMG because they wan to sell they car, they can create a car lack of safety.. yet the J SPEC more worst… rm70k no airbags… =.= beli kereta buatan pun sama. THink bout it.. Rich buy honda, poor buy toyota. AGREE?

as always, honda is always thinking future.. not some cars company. lack and dont have sense of STYLING..

Is that really matter the projector lights does matter or the whole look?

like a altis compare to civic… OMG no need compare, but still got ppl buy new altis =.= some said because of the electronic seat…. if the car is for ur own, how often u play with ur electronic seat? damn when i drive a car, i prefer the feel, the gadget, the technology the safisfaction and the LOOK.

Honda create a car to suite the customers need with safety, tech, etc even do the price is not as competitve as toyota, but because honda knows how important the safety, not like toyota, example vios e spec a single airbag? OMG because they wan to sell they car, they can create a car lack of safety.. yet the J SPEC more worst… rm70k no airbags… =.= beli kereta buatan pun sama. THink bout it.. Rich buy honda, poor buy toyota. AGREE?

as always, honda is always thinking future.. not some cars company. lack and dont have sense of STYLING..

Exora vs. smaller Avanza/Rush/Kangoo – same applies.

So cannot compare large, mid and small MPV's in terms of comfort, f.c. & performance.

But for 'occasional' MPV role, nothing beats the Stream, especially this new version.

June 19, 2009 @ 6:49 pm

Automotive_Critics said,

June 19, 2009 @ 2:45 pm

Nice model made by Sayama Plant..but local made..think twice

Bro, you can’t become an auto critic as your NO-ledge below par. The Stream from Japan, whereas the previous model from Indonesia plant. Equip yourseld first ok before comment.

Your head NOT (sick) heart. HM never assemble Stream. Sorry.

You might misunderstood my a broken english. "local made" i meant for models assemble by HM. Stream is assembled in Sayama plant, Saitama prefecture Japan. I don't know whether its predessor was assembled in Indonesia so far i know only in Japan.

I'm sorry about my knowledge very low as industry layman but i will learn more next time before posting any comment.

About "think twice" to buy HM models, you can refer to my previous post if you aware. My point is those model assemble in Japan is superb in quality where they use cutting edge manufacturing equipment but looking to HM, you'll get bolt loose before you start the engine. Even they are without engineers in plant. SC also so poor even wheel misalignment also can't solve and keep pushing customer witha sweet word until the warranty ends. Finally, at Rm2000, under tree mechanic solved the problem. whata a shame HM.

Read more: http://paultan.org/archives/2009/06/19/honda-stre…

I've had my Wish 2.0 (local) for 2 years.The 4 speed gears are not a problem and seems to be more responsive than my friend's stream. these 2 cars are suitable if you need 5+2 seats for short distances. I took my in-law's and my family from Ipoh to Kuantan non stop and the kids(aged 13 and 10) felt cramped and hot.So if you regularly take 7 people for long distances you will need a full sized MPV .

btw, it is a nice car to drive.

These 2 are almost the perfect sized MPVs, not too big but enough to ferry 7 short distances. My wife likes the Stream, but I am favouring the Toyota. But given how much these 2 are overpriced, even the full sized Grandis ends up looking like a good deal being only slightly more…unfortunately the wife doesn't like it being too large.

Scotleob, you seem to be the Stream supporter, but I'm not aware that the Stream has rear row air con vents the last time I visited the showroom? Which model are you talking about?

5speed with 2 overdrives is not always better than the 4 speed. Yes it might save more fuel on high way cruising, but it feels more lethargic on the lower 3 gears. We have an Accord 2.0 with the same 5 speed…not very impressed with it. I prefer the Wish's better driving feel. Seems the gearbox and power delivery is more responsive.

June 19, 2009 @ 10:07 pm

Kimi: If you think Estima is outdated, then I have nothing much to say to you.

Hahaha, ya laa, too exited to condemn things. I think the best ride is the one in his garage; always futuristic one. At least at his eyes…

June 19, 2009 @ 8:31 pm

This is the REAL mpv….

Look at the EXORA and you will thhought you are in 90s..a laughing stock

People now are want mpv with smaller size and drive like a car eg GRAND LIVINA and WISH……compared to outdated RIA and ESTIMA

PITY EXORA OWNERS "

what a comment. Still want to relate to exora. MPV is for practicality and the package is subjective. If u want small mpv can go for chana, apv, kangoo or eveb jazz, want big go for alphard/elgrand, want this want that..err better not to continue la

it does stands out better than the last one.

KUDOS!

June 19, 2009 @ 8:31 pm

This is the REAL mpv….

Look at the EXORA and you will thhought you are in 90s..a laughing stock

People now are want mpv with smaller size and drive like a car eg GRAND LIVINA and WISH……compared to outdated RIA and ESTIMA

PITY EXORA OWNERS"

u never drove an exora rite?so stop complain about the handling..

Look at the EXORA and you will thhought you are in 90s..a laughing stock

People now are want mpv with smaller size and drive like a car eg GRAND LIVINA and WISH……compared to outdated RIA and ESTIMA

PITY EXORA OWNERS

Base on Honda website, it was in the minivan catalog with Stepwagon, Elysion and Freed.