Comments on: Next KL International Motorshow set for 2010 http://paultan.org/2009/07/22/next-kl-international-motorshow-set-for-2010/ Paul Tan on the Automotive Industry Sun, 27 May 2012 06:38:33 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Jaybon http://paultan.org/2009/07/22/next-kl-international-motorshow-set-for-2010/#comment-407231 Jaybon Tue, 07 Dec 2010 17:28:53 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=16016#comment-407231 kuakuakua.... Why there isn't one BMW around the exhibition??? kuakuakua….
Why there isn’t one BMW around the exhibition???

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]]> By: jun tat http://paultan.org/2009/07/22/next-kl-international-motorshow-set-for-2010/#comment-353388 jun tat Mon, 26 Jul 2010 12:51:11 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=16016#comment-353388 When have motor show at malaysia? When have motor show at malaysia?

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]]> By: serene yong http://paultan.org/2009/07/22/next-kl-international-motorshow-set-for-2010/#comment-252630 serene yong Mon, 27 Jul 2009 18:29:18 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=16016#comment-252630 my friend have a race car to be exhibit,pls kindly let me know wat is the process ? my friend have a race car to be exhibit,pls kindly let me know wat is the process ?

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]]> By: suhaireen http://paultan.org/2009/07/22/next-kl-international-motorshow-set-for-2010/#comment-251895 suhaireen Thu, 23 Jul 2009 22:37:58 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=16016#comment-251895 need waiting ! don't know postpone or not? We hope have good news!!!!! need waiting ! don't know postpone or not? We hope have good news!!!!!

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]]> By: CBRian http://paultan.org/2009/07/22/next-kl-international-motorshow-set-for-2010/#comment-251772 CBRian Thu, 23 Jul 2009 16:42:13 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=16016#comment-251772 great~ great~

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]]> By: torque http://paultan.org/2009/07/22/next-kl-international-motorshow-set-for-2010/#comment-251765 torque Thu, 23 Jul 2009 15:56:46 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=16016#comment-251765 What? Next year? Make it no more also bagus since the organizer is a bunch of rip off robbers...charge ppl then bila masuk...mana semua concept car or the car that we may not being able to see mostly in Malaysia? It is your job to bring them here...forget about those girls...pompuan jer cantik tapi kereta tak cantik buat aper?!! If you were reading this my dear organizer, bring in the likes of Citroen GT, RR Ghost, Spyker cars, Maybach, Keonigsegg, maybe perhaps the Suzuki Monster that climb the peaks...what else...Aston One-77,KTM X-Bow, the LF-A, Nissan Pivo, Toyota iQ, Toyota FT-EV Concept...sigh...there's tons for you guys to pick la...work harder la, talk to them, give them incentive ker, give them free air ticket ker, free pompuan ker....kah kah kah...sorry about the latter wan....tgh giler ni...byk assignment...point is...organizer tu please la bring in more show...no show ppl will simply go n never come back...cheers!!! What? Next year? Make it no more also bagus since the organizer is a bunch of rip off robbers…charge ppl then bila masuk…mana semua concept car or the car that we may not being able to see mostly in Malaysia? It is your job to bring them here…forget about those girls…pompuan jer cantik tapi kereta tak cantik buat aper?!!

If you were reading this my dear organizer, bring in the likes of Citroen GT, RR Ghost, Spyker cars, Maybach, Keonigsegg, maybe perhaps the Suzuki Monster that climb the peaks…what else…Aston One-77,KTM X-Bow, the LF-A, Nissan Pivo, Toyota iQ, Toyota FT-EV Concept…sigh…there's tons for you guys to pick la…work harder la, talk to them, give them incentive ker, give them free air ticket ker, free pompuan ker….kah kah kah…sorry about the latter wan….tgh giler ni…byk assignment…point is…organizer tu please la bring in more show…no show ppl will simply go n never come back…cheers!!!

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]]> By: Aper Nie http://paultan.org/2009/07/22/next-kl-international-motorshow-set-for-2010/#comment-251703 Aper Nie Thu, 23 Jul 2009 12:13:08 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=16016#comment-251703 SETUJU..SETUJU..SETUJU... More CONCEPT CARS PLEASE! Last time oso okla...at least i can olok2 bawak trak..huhu This time at least 70% real 30% concept. Concept ala tuned cars not included in that 30% iye.. Ticket Price=affordable lah. SETUJU..SETUJU..SETUJU…

More CONCEPT CARS PLEASE!

Last time oso okla…at least i can olok2 bawak trak..huhu

This time at least 70% real 30% concept.

Concept ala tuned cars not included in that 30% iye..

Ticket Price=affordable lah.

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]]> By: roti naan1 http://paultan.org/2009/07/22/next-kl-international-motorshow-set-for-2010/#comment-251690 roti naan1 Thu, 23 Jul 2009 11:26:37 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=16016#comment-251690 Change this year, change that year. Now 2010? I don't care even care about. Go change to year 2020 if you want.... I go for Bangkok Motorshow lagi best. Later can eat cheap-cheap seafood samor and sight-seeing. Change this year, change that year. Now 2010? I don't care even care about.

Go change to year 2020 if you want….

I go for Bangkok Motorshow lagi best. Later can eat cheap-cheap seafood samor and sight-seeing.

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]]> By: madboy http://paultan.org/2009/07/22/next-kl-international-motorshow-set-for-2010/#comment-251646 madboy Thu, 23 Jul 2009 09:08:30 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=16016#comment-251646 gangully said, July 22, 2009 @ 12:02 pm complain complain complain… Motor Shows are usually venues for manufacturers to showcase their up n coming models or prototypes. and since they are there their current models as well. If you are only going to a motor show to get a feel of a car u want to buy, then of course going to the showroom is better. --------------------------------------------------------------- Agree with the concept. However, in Malaysia, most of the time they only show cars that we can see in the showroom and perhap 1 or 2 concept/future car. gangully said,

July 22, 2009 @ 12:02 pm

complain complain complain…

Motor Shows are usually venues for manufacturers to showcase their up n coming models or prototypes. and since they are there their current models as well. If you are only going to a motor show to get a feel of a car u want to buy, then of course going to the showroom is better.

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Agree with the concept. However, in Malaysia, most of the time they only show cars that we can see in the showroom and perhap 1 or 2 concept/future car.

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]]> By: EYESORE http://paultan.org/2009/07/22/next-kl-international-motorshow-set-for-2010/#comment-251615 EYESORE Thu, 23 Jul 2009 07:45:33 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=16016#comment-251615 mystvearn said, July 22, 2009 @ 5:34 pm KLCC is a better choice actually than PWTC, then it might also be the result of politics choosing PWTC Read more: <a href="http://paultan.org/archives/2009/07/22/next-kl-international-motorshow-set-for-2010/#comments#ixzz0M2Ei232T" rel="nofollow">http://paultan.org/archives/2009/07/22/next-kl-in...</a> ------------------------------- you just have to make everything is about politics.... don't you??? mystvearn said,

July 22, 2009 @ 5:34 pm

KLCC is a better choice actually than PWTC, then it might also be the result of politics choosing PWTC

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you just have to make everything is about politics…. don't you???

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]]> By: tikus http://paultan.org/2009/07/22/next-kl-international-motorshow-set-for-2010/#comment-251607 tikus Thu, 23 Jul 2009 07:26:20 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=16016#comment-251607 kindly please borrow from AP-King NAZA.. what car do you want? they got it.. kindly please borrow from AP-King NAZA..

what car do you want? they got it..

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]]> By: stolicnya http://paultan.org/2009/07/22/next-kl-international-motorshow-set-for-2010/#comment-251583 stolicnya Thu, 23 Jul 2009 01:42:15 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=16016#comment-251583 hey guys this is an int motor show where all car manufacturers shows their best and future models.@ Tokyo/Frankfurt motor show. If you guys want modified/extreme tuners then M'sia shd organize a different show all together. I have visited a couple of these @ LA + Japan where the tuners gather & display their stuff. Maybe Paul shd be the organizer !!! I guarantee it would be a thumping success cos M'sian motorist simply love modification & add-ons. Getting after-mkt manufacturers be it for exhaust/ECU mapping/Filters/lights etc(local & foreign) would be superb & don't forget the (tuned up)foreign models too!!!! cheers!! hey guys this is an int motor show

where all car manufacturers shows their best

and future models.@ Tokyo/Frankfurt motor show.

If you guys want modified/extreme tuners then

M'sia shd organize a different show all together.

I have visited a couple of these @ LA + Japan

where the tuners gather & display their stuff.

Maybe Paul shd be the organizer !!!

I guarantee it would be a thumping success

cos M'sian motorist simply love modification

& add-ons. Getting after-mkt manufacturers

be it for exhaust/ECU mapping/Filters/lights etc(local & foreign)

would be superb & don't forget the (tuned up)foreign models too!!!!

cheers!!

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]]> By: nmh http://paultan.org/2009/07/22/next-kl-international-motorshow-set-for-2010/#comment-251576 nmh Thu, 23 Jul 2009 00:23:48 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=16016#comment-251576 I will go if they bring in the fabulous bugatti veyron, perhaps some big rare americans, rollers phantom ranges and upcoming ghost, reventon perhaps, panamera and others 4 doors coupe, electric tesla, detroit electric range, err bentley, astons, maybach, owh perhaps future waja replacement, persona & exora rebadge to mitsubishi, and launch a ready to sell campro turbo range. Now tats spice up KLIMS 2010 i believe I will go if they bring in the fabulous bugatti veyron, perhaps some big rare americans, rollers phantom ranges and upcoming ghost, reventon perhaps, panamera and others 4 doors coupe, electric tesla, detroit electric range, err bentley, astons, maybach, owh perhaps future waja replacement, persona & exora rebadge to mitsubishi, and launch a ready to sell campro turbo range.

Now tats spice up KLIMS 2010 i believe

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]]> By: tokmoh http://paultan.org/2009/07/22/next-kl-international-motorshow-set-for-2010/#comment-251565 tokmoh Wed, 22 Jul 2009 23:19:57 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=16016#comment-251565 Last KLIMS 2006 wasn't too bad, there was Honda ASIMO, it was ASIMO's first visit to Msia IIRC. But I don't remember seeing BMW opening its own booth at that time... I wonder if there's any way to make the organisers to switch to KLCC... Last KLIMS 2006 wasn't too bad, there was Honda ASIMO, it was ASIMO's first visit to Msia IIRC. But I don't remember seeing BMW opening its own booth at that time…

I wonder if there's any way to make the organisers to switch to KLCC…

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]]> By: please invite MALAYS http://paultan.org/2009/07/22/next-kl-international-motorshow-set-for-2010/#comment-251562 please invite MALAYS Wed, 22 Jul 2009 22:54:32 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=16016#comment-251562 the organiser must invite Malaysia extreme tuners for this event.. I have uploaded videos from Japan (TV TOKYO GEKISOU GT).. a special TV show about Malaysia extreme tuners, Japan Drift King Keiichi Tsuchiya and Miss Japan Yuriko Saga said Malaysia tuners is SUGOI meaning Malaysia tuners is very good.. MALAYSIA EXTREME CAR ENGINE TUNERS!! (TV TOKYO Gekisou GT) <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICJcg05h1CQ" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICJcg05h1CQ</a> <-- part 1 <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gd5BDinyHA" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gd5BDinyHA</a> <-- part 2 <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyrfhhTc3lo" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyrfhhTc3lo</a> <-- part 3 SUPER GT Malaysia event : #1 MALAYSIA CRAZIEST ENGINE TUNER <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGUmRKm0tuQ" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGUmRKm0tuQ</a> only in Malaysia have an engine tuner who use lorry system to be use in their Turbo engine system car..LOL MALAYSIA IS REALLY CRAZY ABOUT CARS... Japanese Drift King and Miss Japan said so... the organiser must invite Malaysia extreme tuners for this event..

I have uploaded videos from Japan (TV TOKYO GEKISOU GT).. a special TV show about Malaysia extreme tuners, Japan Drift King Keiichi Tsuchiya and Miss Japan Yuriko Saga said Malaysia tuners is SUGOI meaning Malaysia tuners is very good..

MALAYSIA EXTREME CAR ENGINE TUNERS!! (TV TOKYO Gekisou GT)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICJcg05h1CQ <– part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gd5BDinyHA <– part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyrfhhTc3lo <– part 3

SUPER GT Malaysia event : #1 MALAYSIA CRAZIEST ENGINE TUNER
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGUmRKm0tuQ

only in Malaysia have an engine tuner who use lorry system to be use in their Turbo engine system car..LOL

MALAYSIA IS REALLY CRAZY ABOUT CARS…

Japanese Drift King and Miss Japan said so…

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]]> By: CarLover http://paultan.org/2009/07/22/next-kl-international-motorshow-set-for-2010/#comment-251559 CarLover Wed, 22 Jul 2009 22:37:58 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=16016#comment-251559 did buggatti take part?:-) did buggatti take part?:-)

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]]> By: Malaysia mesti ajak http://paultan.org/2009/07/22/next-kl-international-motorshow-set-for-2010/#comment-251558 Malaysia mesti ajak Wed, 22 Jul 2009 22:37:14 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=16016#comment-251558 saya harap kerajaan Malaysia dan penganjur acara ni ajak DRIFT KING (Keiichi Tsuchiya) dan Miss Japan Yuriko SAGA serta semua krew TV TOKYO untuk acara berprestij ni supaya mereka dapat buat liputan TV tentang perkembangan industri automotif di Malaysia ni.. kalau buat di KLCC lagi best.. lagi ramai boleh datang, tourist/pelancong dari luar negara pun amat suka kemudahan lagi baik di PETRONAS KLCC.. harap kerajaan Malaysia dan penganjur dapat pertimbangkan buat di PETRONAS KLCC sebab 1) PETRONAS adalah nama yang amat besar dalam sukan permotoran di peringkat antarabangsa yang membawa nama Malaysia 2) kemudahan di PETRONAS KLCC lebih baik dari PWTC yang agak sesak terutamanya parking 3) banyak tourist/pelancong sudah tahu PETRONAS KLCC, kalau sesat pun dia dongak atas langit je dah nampak dah menara berkembar paling tinggi di Malaysia 4) PETRONAS KLCC adalah juga tempat perniagaan, jadi kalau tourist/pelancong melawat untuk acara KL International Motorshow ni, maka mereka juga akan membeli belah, aktiviti ini akan merancakkan lagi ekonomi negara Malaysia dan menggalakkan kemasukan duit/wang dari luar negara ke dalam negara Malaysia 5) saya rasa kalu buat di PETRONAS KLCC, 1 juta pelawat pun boleh datang sebab tempat tu sudah amat grand dan berprestij.. tengok macam acara PC Fair di KLCC sudah, dulu kan buat di PWTC cuba banding tengok bila PC Fair buat di PETRONAS KLCC mana lagi banyak orang datang melawat?? saya harap kerajaan Malaysia dan penganjur acara ni ajak DRIFT KING (Keiichi Tsuchiya) dan Miss Japan Yuriko SAGA serta semua krew TV TOKYO untuk acara berprestij ni supaya mereka dapat buat liputan TV tentang perkembangan industri automotif di Malaysia ni..

kalau buat di KLCC lagi best.. lagi ramai boleh datang, tourist/pelancong dari luar negara pun amat suka kemudahan lagi baik di PETRONAS KLCC.. harap kerajaan Malaysia dan penganjur dapat pertimbangkan buat di PETRONAS KLCC sebab

1) PETRONAS adalah nama yang amat besar dalam sukan permotoran di peringkat antarabangsa yang membawa nama Malaysia

2) kemudahan di PETRONAS KLCC lebih baik dari PWTC yang agak sesak terutamanya parking

3) banyak tourist/pelancong sudah tahu PETRONAS KLCC, kalau sesat pun dia dongak atas langit je dah nampak dah menara berkembar paling tinggi di Malaysia

4) PETRONAS KLCC adalah juga tempat perniagaan, jadi kalau tourist/pelancong melawat untuk acara KL International Motorshow ni, maka mereka juga akan membeli belah, aktiviti ini akan merancakkan lagi ekonomi negara Malaysia dan menggalakkan kemasukan duit/wang dari luar negara ke dalam negara Malaysia

5) saya rasa kalu buat di PETRONAS KLCC, 1 juta pelawat pun boleh datang sebab tempat tu sudah amat grand dan berprestij.. tengok macam acara PC Fair di KLCC sudah, dulu kan buat di PWTC cuba banding tengok bila PC Fair buat di PETRONAS KLCC mana lagi banyak orang datang melawat??

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]]> By: takeo1070 http://paultan.org/2009/07/22/next-kl-international-motorshow-set-for-2010/#comment-251557 takeo1070 Wed, 22 Jul 2009 22:36:25 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=16016#comment-251557 dear organiser, r u sure u want to do it at pwtc in december....its monsoon season dude. pwtc exhibition hall, 2 of it located next to sg gombak.....flood prone.sigh dear organiser, r u sure u want to do it at pwtc in december….its monsoon season dude. pwtc exhibition hall, 2 of it located next to sg gombak…..flood prone.sigh

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]]> By: A O http://paultan.org/2009/07/22/next-kl-international-motorshow-set-for-2010/#comment-251550 A O Wed, 22 Jul 2009 22:03:07 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=16016#comment-251550 malaysia motor show sucks lah. been there once and got conned. paid RM30 & not even more than 15 cars exhibiting. not many exotic cars and the most expensive stil have to be 2nd borrowed from some race track events. felt dissapointed. left after 30 minutes. i thought it was like something close to the japanese motor show. no babes nevermind lah but no nice cars also. really dam sad that day. with our extreme high tax n duties compare to others countries where got ppl buy lah. so countries like germany, italy n european cars company also think twice about coming to exhibit. sigh. malaysia motor show sucks lah. been there once and got conned. paid RM30 & not even more than 15 cars exhibiting. not many exotic cars and the most expensive stil have to be 2nd borrowed from some race track events. felt dissapointed. left after 30 minutes. i thought it was like something close to the japanese motor show. no babes nevermind lah but no nice cars also. really dam sad that day. with our extreme high tax n duties compare to others countries where got ppl buy lah. so countries like germany, italy n european cars company also think twice about coming to exhibit. sigh.

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]]> By: you a-hole http://paultan.org/2009/07/22/next-kl-international-motorshow-set-for-2010/#comment-251544 you a-hole Wed, 22 Jul 2009 20:04:34 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=16016#comment-251544 PuakaNiangRapik said, July 22, 2009 @ 11:14 am Yuhooooo , dapat tengok amoi amoi cantik sambil bergambar …*drool* Read more: <a href="http://paultan.org/archives/2009/07/22/next-kl-international-motorshow-set-for-2010/#ixzz0LzOL8d6A" rel="nofollow">http://paultan.org/archives/2009/07/22/next-kl-in...</a> --------------------------------------------------------------- amoi in thong.!! wooo hooo!! PuakaNiangRapik said,

July 22, 2009 @ 11:14 am

Yuhooooo , dapat tengok amoi amoi cantik sambil bergambar …*drool*

Read more: http://paultan.org/archives/2009/07/22/next-kl-in…

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amoi in thong.!! wooo hooo!!

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]]> By: xatomic http://paultan.org/2009/07/22/next-kl-international-motorshow-set-for-2010/#comment-251542 xatomic Wed, 22 Jul 2009 19:58:14 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=16016#comment-251542 charge high entrance fees to see cars that you can easily see for free in showrooms.. It is to see the girls DEFINITELY haha you can see for free too in front of zouk every sat nite :) charge high entrance fees to see cars that you can easily see for free in showrooms..

It is to see the girls DEFINITELY haha

you can see for free too in front of zouk every sat nite :)

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]]> By: jiho21 http://paultan.org/2009/07/22/next-kl-international-motorshow-set-for-2010/#comment-251541 jiho21 Wed, 22 Jul 2009 19:54:31 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=16016#comment-251541 PWTC cheaper? PWTC cheaper?

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]]> By: xavier lert http://paultan.org/2009/07/22/next-kl-international-motorshow-set-for-2010/#comment-251523 xavier lert Wed, 22 Jul 2009 17:39:11 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=16016#comment-251523 mak aih...end of next year.... mak aih…end of next year….

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]]> By: mystvearn http://paultan.org/2009/07/22/next-kl-international-motorshow-set-for-2010/#comment-251521 mystvearn Wed, 22 Jul 2009 17:34:08 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=16016#comment-251521 KLCC is a better choice actually than PWTC, then it might also be the result of politics choosing PWTC KLCC is a better choice actually than PWTC, then it might also be the result of politics choosing PWTC

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]]> By: taeone http://paultan.org/2009/07/22/next-kl-international-motorshow-set-for-2010/#comment-251404 taeone Wed, 22 Jul 2009 12:05:50 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=16016#comment-251404 ak tau jalan KLCC je.. ak tau jalan KLCC je..

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]]> By: gangully http://paultan.org/2009/07/22/next-kl-international-motorshow-set-for-2010/#comment-251403 gangully Wed, 22 Jul 2009 12:02:44 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=16016#comment-251403 complain complain complain... Motor Shows are usually venues for manufacturers to showcase their up n coming models or prototypes. and since they are there their current models as well. If you are only going to a motor show to get a feel of a car u want to buy, then of course going to the showroom is better. complain complain complain…

Motor Shows are usually venues for manufacturers to showcase their up n coming models or prototypes. and since they are there their current models as well. If you are only going to a motor show to get a feel of a car u want to buy, then of course going to the showroom is better.

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]]> By: Analyzer http://paultan.org/2009/07/22/next-kl-international-motorshow-set-for-2010/#comment-251399 Analyzer Wed, 22 Jul 2009 11:53:58 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=16016#comment-251399 Hopefully this time around, we get to see prototypes and future models. Looking forward to seeing Mercedes's new models. Hopefully this time around, we get to see prototypes and future models.

Looking forward to seeing Mercedes's new models.

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]]> By: epal10 http://paultan.org/2009/07/22/next-kl-international-motorshow-set-for-2010/#comment-251391 epal10 Wed, 22 Jul 2009 11:39:07 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=16016#comment-251391 This is my first post at paultan.org. Regarding to this topic, I hope KLIMS'10 not become the "ordinary cars" autoshow such as only display the current models, proton and perodua just display their chassis and engine. It might be proud if there is more latest exotic car and feature technology. And hopefully proton can display their future or concept model for their car. This is my first post at paultan.org. Regarding to this topic, I hope KLIMS'10 not become the "ordinary cars" autoshow such as only display the current models, proton and perodua just display their chassis and engine. It might be proud if there is more latest exotic car and feature technology. And hopefully proton can display their future or concept model for their car.

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]]> By: PuakaNiangRapik http://paultan.org/2009/07/22/next-kl-international-motorshow-set-for-2010/#comment-251383 PuakaNiangRapik Wed, 22 Jul 2009 11:14:05 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=16016#comment-251383 Yuhooooo , dapat tengok amoi amoi cantik sambil bergambar ...*drool* Please show Viva Nano please Yuhooooo , dapat tengok amoi amoi cantik sambil bergambar …*drool*

Please show Viva Nano please

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]]> By: Geoffery http://paultan.org/2009/07/22/next-kl-international-motorshow-set-for-2010/#comment-251379 Geoffery Wed, 22 Jul 2009 10:55:51 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=16016#comment-251379 Dec is really a long time, ~ 17 months. Time for them to postpone again if there's a need. Dec is really a long time, ~ 17 months. Time for them to postpone again if there's a need.

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