Comments on: Nissan LEAF: 160km range production electric car http://paultan.org/2009/08/02/nissan-leaf-160km-range-production-electric-car/ Paul Tan on the Automotive Industry Sun, 21 Mar 2010 07:52:05 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Jimmy http://paultan.org/2009/08/02/nissan-leaf-160km-range-production-electric-car/#comment-311301 Jimmy Fri, 19 Mar 2010 15:46:31 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=16068#comment-311301 Try to save cost again, no telescopic steering again Nissan? Shame to you. Save cost ya. Try to save cost again, no telescopic steering again Nissan? Shame to you. Save cost ya.

]]> By: Jimmy http://paultan.org/2009/08/02/nissan-leaf-160km-range-production-electric-car/#comment-311300 Jimmy Fri, 19 Mar 2010 15:45:16 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=16068#comment-311300 Try to save cost again, no telescopic steering again Nissan? Shame to you. Never improve. Try to save cost again, no telescopic steering again Nissan? Shame to you. Never improve.

]]> By: KO http://paultan.org/2009/08/02/nissan-leaf-160km-range-production-electric-car/#comment-268839 KO Sat, 24 Oct 2009 12:41:59 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=16068#comment-268839 Damn, after a couple more look at it in other angles and thru other media, Its look is acceptable now. But it take 2 months warm me up. Anybody know when will Malaysian start charging our Leaf? Damn, after a couple more look at it in other angles and thru other media, Its look is acceptable now. But it take 2 months warm me up. Anybody know when will Malaysian start charging our Leaf?

]]> By: 1Malaysia http://paultan.org/2009/08/02/nissan-leaf-160km-range-production-electric-car/#comment-261311 1Malaysia Wed, 16 Sep 2009 07:02:35 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=16068#comment-261311 I love its interior an its bluish color only... Don't you think they use a duck as an inspiration to design its exterior??..... I love its interior an its bluish color only… Don’t you think they use a duck as an inspiration to design its exterior??…..

]]> By: Elvis http://paultan.org/2009/08/02/nissan-leaf-160km-range-production-electric-car/#comment-254803 Elvis Mon, 10 Aug 2009 10:42:49 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=16068#comment-254803 At least almost everybody here agree on one thing...this car got the fugly look... At least almost everybody here agree on one thing…this car got the fugly look…

]]> By: KO http://paultan.org/2009/08/02/nissan-leaf-160km-range-production-electric-car/#comment-254802 KO Mon, 10 Aug 2009 10:38:08 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=16068#comment-254802 I love almost every features of the car, except the look. I tried to stare at it very long , try to let it grow on me a little, but it just looks too bad to me. Nissan can do great designs like the older Murano, new GTR, Fairlady, and the Latio (Rear part only, front still hard to swallow), now, how could they approve the design of this car?? Let me look at it again... ya, Still very fugly. I love almost every features of the car, except the look. I tried to stare at it very long , try to let it grow on me a little, but it just looks too bad to me.

Nissan can do great designs like the older Murano, new GTR, Fairlady, and the Latio (Rear part only, front still hard to swallow), now, how could they approve the design of this car?? Let me look at it again… ya, Still very fugly.

]]> By: rexis http://paultan.org/2009/08/02/nissan-leaf-160km-range-production-electric-car/#comment-254271 rexis Wed, 05 Aug 2009 02:53:29 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=16068#comment-254271 TY2LS, At the very beginning of this first production car, it is already very promising and quite practical to use. With 160 KM range, I can work in Klang from Balakong, plus a little grocery run before my low batt signal is on. 1. This is a city car. And Nissan never said this car can meet 100% of your needs. Look at the potential of it. Imagine if you double up the battery pack by using up half of the boot, you would get over 300km range, or KL - JB trip. 2. Most of the families nowadays have more then 1 car. 3. There is a 30 minutes quick charge option, you may argue that there is none charging stating available, but then, I would believe that a quick charge station would be much more cheaper then NGV station, as laying electric cables required much less work and less risk compare to high pressure natural gas pipelines. TY2LS,
At the very beginning of this first production car, it is already very promising and quite practical to use.

With 160 KM range, I can work in Klang from Balakong, plus a little grocery run before my low batt signal is on.

1. This is a city car. And Nissan never said this car can meet 100% of your needs. Look at the potential of it. Imagine if you double up the battery pack by using up half of the boot, you would get over 300km range, or KL – JB trip.

2. Most of the families nowadays have more then 1 car.

3. There is a 30 minutes quick charge option, you may argue that there is none charging stating available, but then, I would believe that a quick charge station would be much more cheaper then NGV station, as laying electric cables required much less work and less risk compare to high pressure natural gas pipelines.

]]> By: Elvis http://paultan.org/2009/08/02/nissan-leaf-160km-range-production-electric-car/#comment-254266 Elvis Wed, 05 Aug 2009 02:30:18 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=16068#comment-254266 TY2LS, that's why there's Better Days in Israel. Better Days is just like petrol station where you just drive through while their change your car batteries under your chasis. You can check Better Days wedsite or youtube on idea how this is done. Don't worrylah, you drive long distant once in blue moon only just like the rest of us unless you are involved in logistic business then got problem.... TY2LS, that’s why there’s Better Days in Israel. Better Days is just like petrol station where you just drive through while their change your car batteries under your chasis. You can check Better Days wedsite or youtube on idea how this is done. Don’t worrylah, you drive long distant once in blue moon only just like the rest of us unless you are involved in logistic business then got problem….

]]> By: TY2LS http://paultan.org/2009/08/02/nissan-leaf-160km-range-production-electric-car/#comment-254248 TY2LS Tue, 04 Aug 2009 23:54:08 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=16068#comment-254248 Is this car practical? 1. Nowadays, it take around 2 hours to travel from KL to Ipoh. With this car, it will take 2 DAYS!! Why - after 160km, I have spent one nite in a motel, let the battery charge for 8 hours before continue my journey. 2. You may say "This is a city car"... therefore, I need to have one car for driving in the city and another one for travelling long distance. 3. Today, when we are low in petrol, we can easily re-fill at a nearby petrol station. Mmmm.. what happen when we are low in "Battery". How long do we have to stop before we can continue with our journey? Is this car practical?

1. Nowadays, it take around 2 hours to travel from KL to Ipoh. With this car, it will take 2 DAYS!! Why – after 160km, I have spent one nite in a motel, let the battery charge for 8 hours before continue my journey.

2. You may say “This is a city car”… therefore, I need to have one car for driving in the city and another one for travelling long distance.

3. Today, when we are low in petrol, we can easily re-fill at a nearby petrol station. Mmmm.. what happen when we are low in “Battery”. How long do we have to stop before we can continue with our journey?

]]> By: Bugatti http://paultan.org/2009/08/02/nissan-leaf-160km-range-production-electric-car/#comment-254225 Bugatti Tue, 04 Aug 2009 15:13:39 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=16068#comment-254225 proton is the future of electric cars and can do way better :) proton is the future of electric cars and can do way better :)

]]> By: X http://paultan.org/2009/08/02/nissan-leaf-160km-range-production-electric-car/#comment-254131 X Tue, 04 Aug 2009 07:08:06 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=16068#comment-254131 good technology, but i guess i'll wait till ev cars can go long distance. good technology, but i guess i’ll wait till ev cars can go long distance.

]]> By: SUJAC http://paultan.org/2009/08/02/nissan-leaf-160km-range-production-electric-car/#comment-254099 SUJAC Tue, 04 Aug 2009 05:33:30 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=16068#comment-254099 UGLY FACE LOOK. LIKE A CICAK KOBENG UGLY FACE LOOK. LIKE A CICAK KOBENG

]]> By: shoryuken http://paultan.org/2009/08/02/nissan-leaf-160km-range-production-electric-car/#comment-254070 shoryuken Tue, 04 Aug 2009 03:17:42 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=16068#comment-254070 Its reported about $15,000 = RM 55,000. I will pay for this man compare to a RM175K hybrid car launched recently. Totally eating consumer up. Hope it achieve zero sale man. Stupid pricing of the T brand. Its reported about $15,000 = RM 55,000. I will pay for this man compare to a RM175K hybrid car launched recently. Totally eating consumer up. Hope it achieve zero sale man. Stupid pricing of the T brand.

]]> By: adlanar http://paultan.org/2009/08/02/nissan-leaf-160km-range-production-electric-car/#comment-254059 adlanar Tue, 04 Aug 2009 00:15:47 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=16068#comment-254059 wife wakes husband up at 2am..... wife: hubby, my water broke hubby: ALAMAK! i lupa charge kereta! wife wakes husband up at 2am…..

wife: hubby, my water broke

hubby: ALAMAK! i lupa charge kereta!

]]> By: rexis http://paultan.org/2009/08/02/nissan-leaf-160km-range-production-electric-car/#comment-254043 rexis Mon, 03 Aug 2009 16:30:14 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=16068#comment-254043 Paul, Did you mentioned that the battery pack has a 24kWh capacity? Recharging it could potentially cost more then RM5.23 - RM10.70 plus charging inefficiency. But then, with the highest domestic TNB rate, it still runs at less then RM0.07 per KM. Is the "price comparable to a well equipped petrol car" include battery? If it is, thats a pretty good deal! If say the battery replacement is some RM20,000 and we will need to travel some 100k KM to justify the cost. That would mean some 3-4 years of driving. By then, you might need to replace your battery again, if that is true, it is more or less like driving a normal petrol car, minus the smoke from your tail pipe. And if - the battery can last more then 4 years. - the maintenance on the electric engine is cheaper then normal petrol engine it will be a big plus Very funny big plug and small plug, hahaha. Paul,

Did you mentioned that the battery pack has a 24kWh capacity?

Recharging it could potentially cost more then RM5.23 – RM10.70 plus charging inefficiency. But then, with the highest domestic TNB rate, it still runs at less then RM0.07 per KM.

Is the “price comparable to a well equipped petrol car” include battery? If it is, thats a pretty good deal!

If say the battery replacement is some RM20,000 and we will need to travel some 100k KM to justify the cost. That would mean some 3-4 years of driving. By then, you might need to replace your battery again, if that is true, it is more or less like driving a normal petrol car, minus the smoke from your tail pipe.

And if
– the battery can last more then 4 years.
– the maintenance on the electric engine is cheaper then normal petrol engine
it will be a big plus

Very funny big plug and small plug, hahaha.

]]> By: Kuku_Nan http://paultan.org/2009/08/02/nissan-leaf-160km-range-production-electric-car/#comment-254025 Kuku_Nan Mon, 03 Aug 2009 13:49:38 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=16068#comment-254025 Mr. Paul Tan, What do you think if this car have solar panel roof top? The car can be charged itself while on the move! Great aesthetic design... Mr. Paul Tan,

What do you think if this car have solar panel roof top? The car can be charged itself while on the move!

Great aesthetic design…

]]> By: hondaism http://paultan.org/2009/08/02/nissan-leaf-160km-range-production-electric-car/#comment-254021 hondaism Mon, 03 Aug 2009 13:32:38 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=16068#comment-254021 perfect for my daily commute. 30km two-way smooth ride without toll, kadang2 saja jam in case of accident. nice. can wait to have a silent click and smooth acceleration of an EV.... long distance like balik kampung, i can buy one 2nd hand naza ria for that. perfect for my daily commute. 30km two-way smooth ride without toll, kadang2 saja jam in case of accident. nice. can wait to have a silent click and smooth acceleration of an EV….

long distance like balik kampung, i can buy one 2nd hand naza ria for that.

]]> By: Elvis http://paultan.org/2009/08/02/nissan-leaf-160km-range-production-electric-car/#comment-254005 Elvis Mon, 03 Aug 2009 09:33:22 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=16068#comment-254005 Warren Buffet is no idiot. He's the richest man in the world because he invested in long lasting businesses. Obviously he saw the future in electric cars and why he pick BYD is because of the battery component. There a story how the CEO of BYD drank the liquid of his battery just to show that it is not harmful to human or environment. And BYD also manufactured the Ipod and Iphone i think. Actually, Warren Buffet would like to buy over the BYD but the founder of BYD insist that Warren Buffet bought only certain percentage. And i wonder why Warren didnt invest in US firms like Aptera, Tesla or even GM? Then again he is a genius in investing the right firms so we wait and see whether this BYD live up to expectation. Warren Buffet is no idiot. He’s the richest man in the world because he invested in long lasting businesses. Obviously he saw the future in electric cars and why he pick BYD is because of the battery component. There a story how the CEO of BYD drank the liquid of his battery just to show that it is not harmful to human or environment. And BYD also manufactured the Ipod and Iphone i think. Actually, Warren Buffet would like to buy over the BYD but the founder of BYD insist that Warren Buffet bought only certain percentage. And i wonder why Warren didnt invest in US firms like Aptera, Tesla or even GM? Then again he is a genius in investing the right firms so we wait and see whether this BYD live up to expectation.

]]> By: normal_user http://paultan.org/2009/08/02/nissan-leaf-160km-range-production-electric-car/#comment-253999 normal_user Mon, 03 Aug 2009 08:56:52 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=16068#comment-253999 Paul. Any indication how much will the battery costs? If its expensive, then it still remains like a chicken-egg scenario. The Civic hybrid doesnt sells well because of this issue despite the price reduction, IMHO. Paul.
Any indication how much will the battery costs?

If its expensive, then it still remains like a chicken-egg scenario. The Civic hybrid doesnt sells well because of this issue despite the price reduction, IMHO.

]]> By: Sylvester http://paultan.org/2009/08/02/nissan-leaf-160km-range-production-electric-car/#comment-253994 Sylvester Mon, 03 Aug 2009 08:17:27 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=16068#comment-253994 It will be impossible for the person who is living in flat or condo to own this car where the car park lot does not have a power socket. It will be impossible for the person who is living in flat or condo to own this car where the car park lot does not have a power socket.

]]> By: Wisdom http://paultan.org/2009/08/02/nissan-leaf-160km-range-production-electric-car/#comment-253987 Wisdom Mon, 03 Aug 2009 07:23:10 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=16068#comment-253987 They have play their part and produced a mass EV. Now we have to play our part. Any higher ranked government servant reading this please forward. Don't, please, don't tax the car too much (e.g Prius = 170k). I dont care whether it was tax or duty or hell but that is too expensive. Yes we want to protect Proton, Perodua, Naza or crap but by imposing high tax to this technologically advanced car, we are moving backward. The best is to have Nissan locally assemble this car here for southeast asia market. This is the next generation of car as a whole after 100 years manipulating internal combustion. This kind of technology is very important and by getting it assemble here, the transfer of technology will be massive. The whole industry will evolve. We have to face and prepare fot it; in the positive manner. Not by taking shortcut and getting more money through high tax. We will have employees learn the knowledge, gain experiences and later become experts; improving human resource. The chain of supply for EV car parts will significantly improve, giving a wide opportunity for Proton for sourcing. Proton can, and of course will do reverse-engineering on this car and learn a thing or two. 160km range for this first article i consider excellent. Will gradually increased very soon. Ultimately, the goal is environment. More '0' emission car will be used in Malaysia. The greener the better. Good environment surely will produce good countrymen. They have play their part and produced a mass EV. Now we have to play our part. Any higher ranked government servant reading this please forward.

Don’t, please, don’t tax the car too much (e.g Prius = 170k). I dont care whether it was tax or duty or hell but that is too expensive.

Yes we want to protect Proton, Perodua, Naza or crap but by imposing high tax to this technologically advanced car, we are moving backward.

The best is to have Nissan locally assemble this car here for southeast asia market. This is the next generation of car as a whole after 100 years manipulating internal combustion. This kind of technology is very important and by getting it assemble here, the transfer of technology will be massive.

The whole industry will evolve. We have to face and prepare fot it; in the positive manner. Not by taking shortcut and getting more money through high tax. We will have employees learn the knowledge, gain experiences and later become experts; improving human resource. The chain of supply for EV car parts will significantly improve, giving a wide opportunity for Proton for sourcing. Proton can, and of course will do reverse-engineering on this car and learn a thing or two.

160km range for this first article i consider excellent. Will gradually increased very soon.

Ultimately, the goal is environment. More ‘0′ emission car will be used in Malaysia. The greener the better. Good environment surely will produce good countrymen.

]]> By: victor lee the stupid http://paultan.org/2009/08/02/nissan-leaf-160km-range-production-electric-car/#comment-253979 victor lee the stupid Mon, 03 Aug 2009 06:22:28 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=16068#comment-253979 gosh...I saw ex-pm koizumi in one of the pictures ! what the hell he's doing there...now become advisor to nissan aaa... gosh…I saw ex-pm koizumi in one of the pictures ! what the hell he’s doing there…now become advisor to nissan aaa…

]]> By: scanzew http://paultan.org/2009/08/02/nissan-leaf-160km-range-production-electric-car/#comment-253973 scanzew Mon, 03 Aug 2009 05:49:34 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=16068#comment-253973 BYD electric car very interesting b'cause it's using BYD's patented battery iron-phosphate(as i know) that the shelf-life is about 2-3 times of conventional lithium ion battery...because BYD known as battery manufacturer...once it's commercialize the customer can only replace battery after 2000 cycles and about 600,000km looks very good and range about 160km to 300km per charge….the good about this car is just their battery maybe…the prob about EV is just the battery…50% the cost of EV is their battery… Hahahaha Maybe that’s why Warren Buffet keen to invest.. LOL BYD electric car very interesting b’cause it’s using BYD’s patented battery iron-phosphate(as i know) that the shelf-life is about 2-3 times of conventional lithium ion battery…because BYD known as battery manufacturer…once it’s commercialize the customer can only replace battery after 2000 cycles and about 600,000km looks very good and range about 160km to 300km per charge….the good about this car is just their battery maybe…the prob about EV is just the battery…50% the cost of EV is their battery…
Hahahaha
Maybe that’s why Warren Buffet keen to invest.. LOL

]]> By: sweets http://paultan.org/2009/08/02/nissan-leaf-160km-range-production-electric-car/#comment-253966 sweets Mon, 03 Aug 2009 05:05:59 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=16068#comment-253966 A new electric car awesome man . really you change the world. actually i like its V shape. A new electric car awesome man .
really you change the world. actually i like its V shape.

]]> By: seat-belt http://paultan.org/2009/08/02/nissan-leaf-160km-range-production-electric-car/#comment-253952 seat-belt Mon, 03 Aug 2009 04:19:26 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=16068#comment-253952 a blue-electric-frog... hehehe... btw, bravo to nissan 4 producing another electric car... (can't wait 4 electric car from proton..) a blue-electric-frog…
hehehe…
btw, bravo to nissan 4 producing another electric car…
(can’t wait 4 electric car from proton..)

]]> By: mosh http://paultan.org/2009/08/02/nissan-leaf-160km-range-production-electric-car/#comment-253936 mosh Mon, 03 Aug 2009 02:20:56 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=16068#comment-253936 if this looks like jar jar bink head.. i think if hybrid large suv or MPV, it shud looks like jaba the hut.. hohohoh if this looks like jar jar bink head.. i think if hybrid large suv or MPV, it shud looks like jaba the hut.. hohohoh

]]> By: farghmee http://paultan.org/2009/08/02/nissan-leaf-160km-range-production-electric-car/#comment-253932 farghmee Mon, 03 Aug 2009 01:27:04 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=16068#comment-253932 the rear look reminds me of renault megane..with slightly curved :) leaf? put green color la.. whoops...the beetle (VW) is on the leaf (Nissan)..joking XD the rear look reminds me of renault megane..with slightly curved :)

leaf? put green color la..

whoops…the beetle (VW) is on the leaf (Nissan)..joking XD

]]> By: Wira 1.8(A) DOHC http://paultan.org/2009/08/02/nissan-leaf-160km-range-production-electric-car/#comment-253929 Wira 1.8(A) DOHC Mon, 03 Aug 2009 01:17:40 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=16068#comment-253929 eh, it's really a good car... but the 160km mileage quite short, instead nissan can build a smaller size car (as the car is purposely built for zigzag in city) hence can get more mileage. for me, if the mileage can be 350~400km, then I think i can change to this car ( of course, the car must sell below 100k) eh, it’s really a good car…
but the 160km mileage quite short, instead nissan can build a smaller size car (as the car is purposely built for zigzag in city) hence can get more mileage.
for me, if the mileage can be 350~400km, then I think i can change to this car ( of course, the car must sell below 100k)

]]> By: MycarMylife http://paultan.org/2009/08/02/nissan-leaf-160km-range-production-electric-car/#comment-253926 MycarMylife Mon, 03 Aug 2009 01:04:47 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=16068#comment-253926 Way to go Nissan , thanks for breaking into the EV barrier for peoples' car. please market it within the rakyats' pocket and you will go far. This will be good for those who want to have a 2nd car for the wifey or young ones who want to go to the minimart , mmak store around our tamans. P1 should employ CEO like Ghosn . well done Way to go Nissan , thanks for breaking into the EV barrier for peoples’ car.
please market it within the rakyats’ pocket and you will go far. This will be good for those who want to have a 2nd car for the wifey or young ones who want to go to the minimart , mmak store around our tamans.
P1 should employ CEO like Ghosn . well done

]]> By: Jack Tan http://paultan.org/2009/08/02/nissan-leaf-160km-range-production-electric-car/#comment-253925 Jack Tan Mon, 03 Aug 2009 01:04:00 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=16068#comment-253925 Did you guys notice that there were no turning signals used in the video clips. Is this legal over here? Did you guys notice that there were no turning signals used in the video clips. Is this legal over here?

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