Even the road condition and other user attitude are so dangerous that a lot of ppl have to spend more money in a better safety, performance, fuel economy car compare to others… Am i right?

Have you wonder if all of us drive wira and knock each other? If i drive even an old nissan sunny 130y, which car is better in term of fuel economy and safety compare to wira 1.3L? So now know the reason why other ppl are forced to buy better cars…

to change then make no one make money, then things will change automatically.. even the G also can changed if no one make money. so start today by not buying any new car. get your family, friends, neighbor not to buy any car. if u found only u without new car while rest driving brand new local or other makes, then only u laa who dont make money!

can we fix it?

bob the builder

yes we can~

Wei…if our diesel is sooo bad why can all those Scania, Volvo trucks Kia Preggio and Hyundai Starex is not emitting high volumes of smokes? Face it, our trucks are maintained unprofessionally. I used to deal a lot of diesel engines at the Shipyard. If you do it right and regularly, you wouldn’t have the gook coming out. Fact is, its more expensive to maintain a Merc diesel than a Korean diesel ainit?

Its hard aready to pay the pump price now, you and your singletracked industry specific buddies are selfish and do not want to look at the whole picture. Its the economy dum#@$$!

Memang cakap main lepas aje. Inti takde. Ni belajar kat mana ni?

the rims looks cheap and low quality rip offs.also not slip efficient.

yeah… those silly chinese. copying the design of the last generation corolla. and trying to put in all of this “new fangled technology” lithium battery mated with engine design of mr mysterypoopypants. those silly chinese when will they ever learn.

they should establish one company to develop existing tech cars, only crappier, as other carmakers explore new markets because the old one is facing sustainability issues. then they should also set up a few other companies to fork out money to foreign firms to buy random pre-made existing-tech cars to be sold as rebadges. that’s the *real* way forward.
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And I tot u are talking about Proton

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No one is looking forward to the NAP revision, positively. except the widely known beneficiaries.. P1, P2 and perhaps, the Japanese car manufacturers.
It will just be full of vague, weak points that is unattractive and certainly bias to certain manufacturers and ‘green’ tech. Attracting more foreign investor? I think the G already surrenders it to the Thais long time ago.

Wanted to grab the hybrid / electric car segment? Thailand is in the better position to grab this segment (as they now have the right base in automotive production etc etc). Beside M’sia, let alone ASEAN are NOT READY to embrace electric car in 5-7 years. Not with current reality. Too much need to be change and implement. Just look how reluctant / difficult it is to upgrade the fuels standard….For me, trying to position out nation as electric / hybrid car manufacturing hub is a noble idea but the push for it seem to forgot that Thailand can also do the same, much much more easier. I think Toyota announcement regarding manufacturing hybrid Camry in Thailand is an indication that Thailand would have it easy if they want to be hybrid / electric vehicle manufacturing hub. Of course, M’sia still need to do something to attract FDI in auto sector while building its own industry (since the G are so grip with it) but ignoring the voice of the people (we want cheaper car!) while at it is most regrettable and puzzling.

Regarding car price, the soon-to-be revised NAP surely will not make it cheaper, especially CBU from non-ASEAN. CBU from ASEAN also will not be spared. Yes, ‘twist and turn’… Protection of the ‘local players’ is the outmost important agenda of this NAP revision. Not ‘opening up’ or levelling the playing field. The G view is always the same like in Tun M time; they are doing this (protection / trade barrier in auto industry) in order to level the playing field. With out it, local manufacturers are going to be wash away.

So, P1 & P2 will continue to enjoy whatever they are enjoying right now with further goodies surely to be embedded in (both for now and for future – as safety net). If they need to remove some goodies, they will replace it with something else of equal value (at least).

Mature fuel-efficient tech such as turbo diesel will not get anything in this NAP revision. The implementation of ‘only’ Euro 2 (or Euro 2M as they called it here) diesel is the knockout blow. I dont even know why, in the name of God, did the Govt upgrade our fuels to Euro 2 standard in the first place. Just cannot see the benefits in terms of it allowing the introduction of new cleaner diesel vehicle. Fact is, most if not all excellent turbo diesel engine nowadays need minimum Euro 3 to work its charm. See the correlation (or rather lack of it?) Heck, the European regulatory body are going to enforce the Euro5 (or ULSD in Japan) in the near future!

Perhaps the Govt just target to lower sulphur-induced pollution? Why r G so caring about that until they took such a big hassle? Things just dont add up here. Beside, the Euro emission standard is always about the reduction of CO2, NOx emission (and a few other pollutants). Sulphur is given. They implement the Euro emission standard as part of initiative to achieve the target set in the Kyoto Protocol and tied it with car tax etc in order to make sense of the emission standard implementation (beside the obvious fuel saving behaviour of these vehicles).

Since our legislative/regulatory on cleaner fuels (actually, is there’s any?) will always lag the European by at least 2 or 3 Euro standard, it is quite ‘accidental’ that M’sia clean fuel (petrol n diesel) roadmap has been layout to miss the movement of the European emission standard implementation. Therefore, it will always be impossible to bring in the ‘current’ fuel-efficient vehicles from EU (e.g. turbo diesel vehicle) into this country. To bring in ‘old’ turbo diesel from Europe factory (as CBU or CKD) is out of the question, as production of such vehicles had been stopped. Beside there is no economy of scale and existence of various constraints.

As late as 2007, it was reported (by AIP) that M’sia had committed to implement Euro 2 fuels (petrol n diesel) by January 2006? … and then jump straight to Euro4 by 2010+ ? (actual year not committed)

BTW, most oil refinery in Malaysia and outside (where we r getting our imported fuels from) are able to produce Euro4 fuels. Its a little more expensive they say, but aren’t everything nowadays?

they should establish one company to develop existing tech cars, only crappier, as other carmakers explore new markets because the old one is facing sustainability issues. then they should also set up a few other companies to fork out money to foreign firms to buy random pre-made existing-tech cars to be sold as rebadges. that’s the *real* way forward.

Man, truly disappointed with BeEnd at total…
I wish they get overturn now….none of their policies favor Rakyat nowaday…jz gimmick

Any indication that the JV between Proton & Detroit Electric went smoothly?

This is bullshit excuse, they have no sincere on lowering down the car in protection for P1… I wonder that AP will not be abolish also… Last time mention will be abolish by 2010, i bet that when the time come either it is not abolish or change into another version of AP… “Twist n Turn” all the time and never implement properly, i hope that other Asean country will boikot us again, like Thailand did last time…

meng pai

BTW, is that a Corolla Altis rip off?