Comments on: Alfa Romeo’s new 1750 TBi turbo engine http://paultan.org/2009/08/29/alfa-romeos-new-1750-tbi-turbo-engine/ Paul Tan on the Automotive Industry Mon, 22 Mar 2010 13:19:43 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: lchan http://paultan.org/2009/08/29/alfa-romeos-new-1750-tbi-turbo-engine/#comment-258297 lchan Wed, 02 Sep 2009 02:16:57 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=16202#comment-258297 paultan: i know, but currently putting out 320Nm@1400rpm from a 1.8L turbo engine with a 9.5 compression ratio is not possible. Maybe by 2010 they can do it, but i have my doubt. There will be a more significant lag (say compare with the EP6DTS engine). I say 280Nm@ 1600rpm with a 10.5 is more realistically achievable. With a 1.8L with 9.5 compression ratio and 320Nm, you would most probably be looking at about 2,000 ~ 2250rpm at best. But if we were to assume based on fiat bravo engines (with sport mode on 230Nm), it may be as high as 2500rpm and above. paultan: i know, but currently putting out 320Nm@1400rpm from a 1.8L turbo engine with a 9.5 compression ratio is not possible. Maybe by 2010 they can do it, but i have my doubt. There will be a more significant lag (say compare with the EP6DTS engine). I say 280Nm@ 1600rpm with a 10.5 is more realistically achievable. With a 1.8L with 9.5 compression ratio and 320Nm, you would most probably be looking at about 2,000 ~ 2250rpm at best. But if we were to assume based on fiat bravo engines (with sport mode on 230Nm), it may be as high as 2500rpm and above.

]]> By: bella italia http://paultan.org/2009/08/29/alfa-romeos-new-1750-tbi-turbo-engine/#comment-258187 bella italia Tue, 01 Sep 2009 07:13:46 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=16202#comment-258187 toycar said : thats y not on ur pick list because u dont even know how to spell alfa romeo also....idiot... azrai said : attention!!! this is typical malaysian mindset...first of all azrai u r sooo damn stupid...the defination of benzina is oil not zina bodo..... kenapa la bangang sgt ko nih..... plizz dont paste stupid comment here... The price of this car might be little higher than 2.2 but below than 200k...its still ok because audi a4 1.8 turbo is rm210+++.....if u compare apple to apple la..the performance anytime better than the audi.... toycar said : thats y not on ur pick list because u dont even know how to spell alfa romeo also….idiot…

azrai said : attention!!! this is typical malaysian mindset…first of all azrai u r sooo damn stupid…the defination of benzina is oil not zina bodo…..
kenapa la bangang sgt ko nih…..

plizz dont paste stupid comment here…

The price of this car might be little higher than 2.2 but below than 200k…its still ok because audi a4 1.8 turbo is rm210+++…..if u compare apple to apple la..the performance anytime better than the audi….

]]> By: MycarMylife http://paultan.org/2009/08/29/alfa-romeos-new-1750-tbi-turbo-engine/#comment-258078 MycarMylife Tue, 01 Sep 2009 02:40:20 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=16202#comment-258078 Visited the showroom yesterday , they have limited stocks left so better wait for the new TBI next year . Superb design for the offerings and a far cry from my former 155 TS. Visited the showroom yesterday , they have limited stocks left so better wait for the new TBI next year . Superb design for the offerings and a far cry from my former 155 TS.

]]> By: azrai http://paultan.org/2009/08/29/alfa-romeos-new-1750-tbi-turbo-engine/#comment-258019 azrai Mon, 31 Aug 2009 23:55:00 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=16202#comment-258019 wah! the engine is BENZINA. jauhi diri anda dari zina. wah! the engine is BENZINA. jauhi diri anda dari zina.

]]> By: willpower http://paultan.org/2009/08/29/alfa-romeos-new-1750-tbi-turbo-engine/#comment-258003 willpower Mon, 31 Aug 2009 22:49:08 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=16202#comment-258003 @karl: i'm totally agreed with you. Malaysia are too mean & narrow minded, only stick with TYT-HM-MB-BMW German Japan genre. They never give a damn to true Italia blood. @karl: i’m totally agreed with you. Malaysia are too mean & narrow minded, only stick with TYT-HM-MB-BMW German Japan genre. They never give a damn to true Italia blood.

]]> By: Paul Tan http://paultan.org/2009/08/29/alfa-romeos-new-1750-tbi-turbo-engine/#comment-257870 Paul Tan Mon, 31 Aug 2009 11:49:15 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=16202#comment-257870 Why is that surprising, considering it has a turbo and direct injection? Why is that surprising, considering it has a turbo and direct injection?

]]> By: lchan http://paultan.org/2009/08/29/alfa-romeos-new-1750-tbi-turbo-engine/#comment-257868 lchan Mon, 31 Aug 2009 11:47:13 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=16202#comment-257868 1.8L with 320Nm torque from 1400RPM with a compression ratio of just 9.5? that is either extremely good or just "not-so-honest" figures. 1.8L with 320Nm torque from 1400RPM with a compression ratio of just 9.5? that is either extremely good or just “not-so-honest” figures.

]]> By: h2k http://paultan.org/2009/08/29/alfa-romeos-new-1750-tbi-turbo-engine/#comment-257752 h2k Sun, 30 Aug 2009 02:36:41 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=16202#comment-257752 it seems turbocharging is the rage these days for conti cars it seems turbocharging is the rage these days for conti cars

]]> By: karl http://paultan.org/2009/08/29/alfa-romeos-new-1750-tbi-turbo-engine/#comment-257746 karl Sun, 30 Aug 2009 00:58:02 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=16202#comment-257746 Theopillus Chin: Try photoshoped 159 with BRERA : 1-Detached side mirrors 2-Brera front end air dam It will look more gorgeous though cannibalized the coupe: but Brera still got sexy butt (they can loan for estate@sportwagon 159). Let us know if you can do that. Paul; Do Alfa need Lotus to perfect their already decent handling? Just for food of thought. Theopillus Chin:

Try photoshoped 159 with BRERA :
1-Detached side mirrors
2-Brera front end air dam

It will look more gorgeous though cannibalized the coupe: but Brera still got sexy butt (they can loan for estate@sportwagon 159).

Let us know if you can do that.

Paul;

Do Alfa need Lotus to perfect their already decent handling? Just for food of thought.

]]> By: karl http://paultan.org/2009/08/29/alfa-romeos-new-1750-tbi-turbo-engine/#comment-257744 karl Sun, 30 Aug 2009 00:50:29 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=16202#comment-257744 lf the price is RIGHT(read Alfa can't afford to think they're somebody in Toyota-Honda -MB-BMW German-Japan mentality Malaysian). We're really need Naza style Peugeot pricing in order to restore this brand. I am speechless when l test drove an Alfa 159 last couple of month: for a sub-RM180K it's a steal. lmagine with the brilliant 1.8T engine! Perhaps Proton can do Naza here, anyone? Sime Darby pricing not smart enough as they have BMW under their common roof. For me majority prospect need rather fairer learning curve before they can embarked on this full soul ltalian babe. After reliability, quality is near both Teutonic or Japan then premium pricing maybe acceptable. Confusing? Not even Japanese Mazda6 with brilliant handling than Accord not well received by Japanese-fan. What a luxuriously overrated Toyota-Honda can enjoy? I'll embrace Alfa once they're proven in term of reliability. lf the price is RIGHT(read Alfa can’t afford to think they’re somebody in Toyota-Honda -MB-BMW German-Japan mentality Malaysian). We’re really need Naza style Peugeot pricing in order to restore this brand.

I am speechless when l test drove an Alfa 159 last couple of month: for a sub-RM180K it’s a steal.

lmagine with the brilliant 1.8T engine! Perhaps Proton can do Naza here, anyone? Sime Darby pricing not smart enough as they have BMW under their common roof.

For me majority prospect need rather fairer learning curve before they can embarked on this full soul ltalian babe. After reliability, quality is near both Teutonic or Japan then premium pricing maybe acceptable.

Confusing? Not even Japanese Mazda6 with brilliant handling than Accord not well received by Japanese-fan. What a luxuriously overrated Toyota-Honda can enjoy?

I’ll embrace Alfa once they’re proven in term of reliability.

]]> By: chuakz http://paultan.org/2009/08/29/alfa-romeos-new-1750-tbi-turbo-engine/#comment-257721 chuakz Sat, 29 Aug 2009 13:59:48 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=16202#comment-257721 don't worry CCC.....it will come soon...possibly after all the 2.2 stocks run out... don’t worry CCC…..it will come soon…possibly after all the 2.2 stocks run out…

]]> By: CCC http://paultan.org/2009/08/29/alfa-romeos-new-1750-tbi-turbo-engine/#comment-257719 CCC Sat, 29 Aug 2009 13:49:29 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=16202#comment-257719 Retire the 2.2 JTS. Bring this 1750T into Malaysia, price it RM190k, I swear I will buy one. Retire the 2.2 JTS. Bring this 1750T into Malaysia, price it RM190k, I swear I will buy one.

]]> By: You're Slimeball http://paultan.org/2009/08/29/alfa-romeos-new-1750-tbi-turbo-engine/#comment-257700 You're Slimeball Sat, 29 Aug 2009 12:45:35 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=16202#comment-257700 Thought it was some modded Waja when i scrolled down the page until i stopped the page and saw the front grille. Da-yummm! Thought it was some modded Waja when i scrolled down the page until i stopped the page and saw the front grille. Da-yummm!

]]> By: a18 http://paultan.org/2009/08/29/alfa-romeos-new-1750-tbi-turbo-engine/#comment-257696 a18 Sat, 29 Aug 2009 11:42:16 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=16202#comment-257696 finally....FIAT group has launched d 1.8 T in its engine we will soon hv this 1.8 T in the award winning Fiat Bravo.... wth d 1.8T....it can easily hit 250bhp wth mild tune up Audi A4 1.8T B9 will hv competition soon.... finally….FIAT group has launched d 1.8 T in its engine

we will soon hv this 1.8 T in the award winning Fiat Bravo….
wth d 1.8T….it can easily hit 250bhp wth mild tune up

Audi A4 1.8T B9 will hv competition soon….

]]> By: toycar http://paultan.org/2009/08/29/alfa-romeos-new-1750-tbi-turbo-engine/#comment-257693 toycar Sat, 29 Aug 2009 11:19:47 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=16202#comment-257693 another fierce continental car, but for some reasons alpha romeo is never in my pick list. another fierce continental car, but for some reasons alpha romeo is never in my pick list.

]]> By: Aush http://paultan.org/2009/08/29/alfa-romeos-new-1750-tbi-turbo-engine/#comment-257690 Aush Sat, 29 Aug 2009 10:53:50 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=16202#comment-257690 lots of torque! lots of torque!

]]> By: theanswer http://paultan.org/2009/08/29/alfa-romeos-new-1750-tbi-turbo-engine/#comment-257689 theanswer Sat, 29 Aug 2009 10:46:57 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=16202#comment-257689 this one is cool. but i dont really like the way alfa offer it cars using the same engine but at diff prices. this one is cool. but i dont really like the way alfa offer it cars using the same engine but at diff prices.

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