Comments on: Another Volkswagen CKD plan grinds to a halt? http://paultan.org/2009/09/01/another-volkswagen-ckd-plan-grinds-to-a-halt/ Paul Tan on the Automotive Industry Fri, 19 Mar 2010 23:45:29 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: momo http://paultan.org/2009/09/01/another-volkswagen-ckd-plan-grinds-to-a-halt/#comment-294350 momo Wed, 27 Jan 2010 22:08:03 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=16223#comment-294350 buat apa nak kete murah2? nanti penuh kete kat atas jalan.just harap tax n interest rendah je ^^ .and harga petrol juga.baru org miskin n kaya bole hidup ngan aman..kat singapore ada orang gaji S$4000/sebulan tapi pilih utk pakai motor.baru la sedar diri sket..org malaysia tak berapa sedar diri..pk nak berlagak je. buat apa nak kete murah2? nanti penuh kete kat atas jalan.just harap tax n interest rendah je ^^ .and harga petrol juga.baru org miskin n kaya bole hidup ngan aman..kat singapore ada orang gaji S$4000/sebulan tapi pilih utk pakai motor.baru la sedar diri sket..org malaysia tak berapa sedar diri..pk nak berlagak je.

]]> By: chain http://paultan.org/2009/09/01/another-volkswagen-ckd-plan-grinds-to-a-halt/#comment-259828 chain Wed, 09 Sep 2009 04:44:35 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=16223#comment-259828 truly malaysian car manufacturer?...sage = lancer 2,iswara is juz lancer 2 hatchback while wira is lancer 3...totally copy...copied until the engine n spare part can share with the lancer my fren...it is juz take japan outdated stuff and produce here and sell it expansive to us..sumore with lower qualities...i can say the earlier batch of wira in 90's are far better than the newer wira in 2000's.. truly malaysian car manufacturer?…sage = lancer 2,iswara is juz lancer 2 hatchback while wira is lancer 3…totally copy…copied until the engine n spare part can share with the lancer my fren…it is juz take japan outdated stuff and produce here and sell it expansive to us..sumore with lower qualities…i can say the earlier batch of wira in 90’s are far better than the newer wira in 2000’s..

]]> By: Zool http://paultan.org/2009/09/01/another-volkswagen-ckd-plan-grinds-to-a-halt/#comment-259488 Zool Mon, 07 Sep 2009 08:16:17 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=16223#comment-259488 Saudara Shah, saya dah pakai Proton sejak 1988, Proton Saga, Iswara, Wira, now Waja. Semua tak ada masalah.. I always think positive and proud what Proton has achieve... because it is truly a Malaysian car manufacturer. Not only am I proud of Proton but Petronas as well and other Malaysian companies that manufacture goods like electronics, shoes, food etc. These companies contribute to our economic well being making our current account always in surplus since 1997. Saudara Shah, saya dah pakai Proton sejak 1988, Proton Saga, Iswara, Wira, now Waja. Semua tak ada masalah.. I always think positive and proud what Proton has achieve… because it is truly a Malaysian car manufacturer. Not only am I proud of Proton but Petronas as well and other Malaysian companies that manufacture goods like electronics, shoes, food etc. These companies contribute to our economic well being making our current account always in surplus since 1997.

]]> By: paloi http://paultan.org/2009/09/01/another-volkswagen-ckd-plan-grinds-to-a-halt/#comment-259438 paloi Mon, 07 Sep 2009 04:52:29 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=16223#comment-259438 hahahaha price wise polo and vios not much different. but in malaysia because of the gomen set tax and duty and levy funnily so you get the funny price for european car. can you comprehend the new saga price in aussie just A13K? But here around RM42K. Do you believe they represent true value for your money? what i can say is malaysian get f******ed to own a natioanal car. how nice eh hahahaha price wise polo and vios not much different. but in malaysia because of the gomen set tax and duty and levy funnily so you get the funny price for european car. can you comprehend the new saga price in aussie just A13K? But here around RM42K. Do you believe they represent true value for your money?

what i can say is malaysian get f******ed to own a natioanal car. how nice eh

]]> By: ariefin http://paultan.org/2009/09/01/another-volkswagen-ckd-plan-grinds-to-a-halt/#comment-258721 ariefin Thu, 03 Sep 2009 10:57:40 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=16223#comment-258721 Hi Scottloeb Thanks for understanding. The main issue is even if it has a manufacturing plant in a country, does it have good quality suppliers. Because a manufacturing plant is one big jigsaw puzzle. You need to get parts from one company to another. Its the task of the QC department to really look at the quality of the products made by its vendor. Hi Scottloeb
Thanks for understanding. The main issue is even if it has a manufacturing plant in a country, does it have good quality suppliers. Because a manufacturing plant is one big jigsaw puzzle. You need to get parts from one company to another. Its the task of the QC department to really look at the quality of the products made by its vendor.

]]> By: scottloeb http://paultan.org/2009/09/01/another-volkswagen-ckd-plan-grinds-to-a-halt/#comment-258645 scottloeb Thu, 03 Sep 2009 03:50:23 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=16223#comment-258645 Mr Ariefinm, Pardon the boys. They do not know the reality of auto operation. If the plants owned or managed by the principal (for example Toyota Motor Japan, not Astra for TM Manufacturing Indonesia), the standard is at par with other regional player. If major owner of the assembly plant is the local with no management say (in this case, Oriental Motor Johor) than the result is screw up. Indonesia is base for MPV in ASEAN, chosen by most major company due to the competitive labour rates and huge market potential. That is why Perodua plant owned by Nihon-jin have a better reputation than local owned Toyota plant at Shah Alam. The main problem might be localise parts, which happens everywhere. In Merc S Class CKD in Pekan, almost all parts are CKD. Mr Ariefinm,
Pardon the boys. They do not know the reality of auto operation. If the plants owned or managed by the principal (for example Toyota Motor Japan, not Astra for TM Manufacturing Indonesia), the standard is at par with other regional player. If major owner of the assembly plant is the local with no management say (in this case, Oriental Motor Johor) than the result is screw up. Indonesia is base for MPV in ASEAN, chosen by most major company due to the competitive labour rates and huge market potential. That is why Perodua plant owned by Nihon-jin have a better reputation than local owned Toyota plant at Shah Alam. The main problem might be localise parts, which happens everywhere. In Merc S Class CKD in Pekan, almost all parts are CKD.

]]> By: Sony http://paultan.org/2009/09/01/another-volkswagen-ckd-plan-grinds-to-a-halt/#comment-258459 Sony Wed, 02 Sep 2009 12:10:45 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=16223#comment-258459 siapa rela mati dalam kereta yang tak murah, yang quality cheap, and buatan tempatan!!!!!! Local CAR gomen also tax kao kao!!!! jangan takut, beli insurance banyak banyak, itu jer. beli proton, simpan annual leave baiki kereta. beli saga/iswara, simpan duit tukar vios, itu jer. siapa rela mati dalam kereta yang tak murah, yang quality cheap, and buatan tempatan!!!!!! Local CAR gomen also tax kao kao!!!!

jangan takut, beli insurance banyak banyak, itu jer.

beli proton, simpan annual leave baiki kereta.

beli saga/iswara, simpan duit tukar vios, itu jer.

]]> By: shah http://paultan.org/2009/09/01/another-volkswagen-ckd-plan-grinds-to-a-halt/#comment-258446 shah Wed, 02 Sep 2009 11:45:11 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=16223#comment-258446 Saudara Nakal dan saudara Zool belilah kereta proton banyak2 yek..kalau rosak jangan komplain kat sini....Bagi jek duit tu kat proton..hihihihi..Kalau manusia ada akal tak akan beli barang yang dah rosak2 dan tak ada kualiti ni....lebih baik duit tu beli barang berguna...Mesti korang suka pakai proton kan...hahahahaha Saudara Nakal dan saudara Zool belilah kereta proton banyak2 yek..kalau rosak jangan komplain kat sini….Bagi jek duit tu kat proton..hihihihi..Kalau manusia ada akal tak akan beli barang yang dah rosak2 dan tak ada kualiti ni….lebih baik duit tu beli barang berguna…Mesti korang suka pakai proton kan…hahahahaha

]]> By: lambov12 http://paultan.org/2009/09/01/another-volkswagen-ckd-plan-grinds-to-a-halt/#comment-258400 lambov12 Wed, 02 Sep 2009 09:07:25 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=16223#comment-258400 i wan a GTi !!! i wan a GTi !!!

]]> By: Nakal http://paultan.org/2009/09/01/another-volkswagen-ckd-plan-grinds-to-a-halt/#comment-258335 Nakal Wed, 02 Sep 2009 06:09:10 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=16223#comment-258335 Zool said, September 2, 2009 @ 12:38 pm Saudara Shah langsung tak ada Jati Diri. Actually Proton syarikat Malaysia sebenar. -------------------- dia bukan takde jati diri...dia takde akal sebenarnya Zool said,

September 2, 2009 @ 12:38 pm

Saudara Shah langsung tak ada Jati Diri. Actually Proton syarikat Malaysia sebenar.

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dia bukan takde jati diri…dia takde akal sebenarnya

]]> By: chain http://paultan.org/2009/09/01/another-volkswagen-ckd-plan-grinds-to-a-halt/#comment-258334 chain Wed, 02 Sep 2009 06:07:52 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=16223#comment-258334 the government related body dun like the VW coming in..to protect the P1...how this raise a question of how many government hi officer do really drive P1 as their private car?...note not the official car given by the government... the government related body dun like the VW coming in..to protect the P1…how this raise a question of how many government hi officer do really drive P1 as their private car?…note not the official car given by the government…

]]> By: tayarbotak http://paultan.org/2009/09/01/another-volkswagen-ckd-plan-grinds-to-a-halt/#comment-258333 tayarbotak Wed, 02 Sep 2009 06:07:33 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=16223#comment-258333 where is ron97? said, September 2, 2009 @ 11:01 am ------------------------------------------------------------------ If u go to petronas, try find sign primax3. That was Ron97 from Petronas. where is ron97? said,

September 2, 2009 @ 11:01 am
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If u go to petronas, try find sign primax3. That was Ron97 from Petronas.

]]> By: Jumbsuck http://paultan.org/2009/09/01/another-volkswagen-ckd-plan-grinds-to-a-halt/#comment-258332 Jumbsuck Wed, 02 Sep 2009 06:06:06 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=16223#comment-258332 I think Mr Paul should ask readers' opinion on what govt should do to our auto industry, NAP etc, like an open idea exchange and hopefully all those suggestions can be put forward to relevant authorities like MITI, MAA or even directly to PM. Simple emails will do. For the starters, these are just some of the suggestions: 1. Review the AP car policy. For whatever reasons (and unknown mysteries) why it shouldn't be abolished anytime soon, govt must at least set some limit to which car segments open up for AP system while the rest seriously should be operated on open market. My suggestion is that: - cars with 2000cc and above (both for petrol, diesel engine) still subject to AP system while those below 2000cc should compete fully in open market or price at least similar to that Labuan/Langkawi prices. Ok lah, slap a bit on duties taxes but then those items shouldn't be factored in car loans anymore. 2000cc limit actually just to keep some goons happy (can still survive also?) while people have the best choice of cars imaginable finally. Luxury and necessity finally defined on cars. 2. Review road tax policy. Currently road tax is based on engine capacity regardless of petrol or diesel. Govt should reward car users that drive fuel efficient and clean engine cars. Some sort of score points conducted by Puspakom/JPJ to determine two factors: 1. Fuel efficiency (mileage/litre of fuel used or km/Litre) and 2. CO2 emission (grams of C02 emitted per km or CO2g/km). Cars that returns good efficiency and low emission shall pay low road taxes regardless of engine capacity or petrol/diesel engine. 3. Cash for scrapping old cars must be extended to non-national cars. Also, set few criteria to enjoy higher rebates such as those buying new car that is fuel efficient and low emission (these factors officially determine by Puspakom/JPJ) shall entitle more cash rebates. Old cars meanwhile must be disabled definately (pouring sodium mixture to the engine) upon scrapping. While these scheme will receive great demand and to prevent chaos, a monthly quota shall be used and selection based on lottery system to give equal chances to everybody. Govt also can prepare the funds accordingly and shall not be caught up by big demand thus creating funds shortage. 4. Standardised car loan interest rates. This is something that Bank Negara can intervene to stop the financing sector act like a loan sharks once the open car market implemented. But until then, beggars cannot be choosy. 5. No more highway tolls? That is still RM30billion question, sadly. Think about it: Viva sold at RM15K, Saga RM20K, Persona RM35K, Vios RM45K, Hilux RM70K, Triton RM65K, Camry RM90K etc. The possible savings from open market, interest rates on car loans anywhere from RM20K per car can easily translate 5-6 years of fuel expenses which otherwise a big burden/ cost of servicing loans to car users. Since car prices at fair price, the fuel price issue will somehow irrelevant and only make the most fuel efficient, less emission cars a sensible choice. The question whether govt then to reduce fuel subsidy, sellling fuel at almost market price can be justifiable with lower cost of car ownership. Those use more fuel ultimately have to pay more or better choose a suitable car accordingly since open car market means you can only pick the best, clean and efficient car. I think Mr Paul should ask readers’ opinion on what govt should do to our auto industry, NAP etc, like an open idea exchange and hopefully all those suggestions can be put forward to relevant authorities like MITI, MAA or even directly to PM. Simple emails will do. For the starters, these are just some of the suggestions:

1. Review the AP car policy. For whatever reasons (and unknown mysteries) why it shouldn’t be abolished anytime soon, govt must at least set some limit to which car segments open up for AP system while the rest seriously should be operated on open market. My suggestion is that: – cars with 2000cc and above (both for petrol, diesel engine) still subject to AP system while those below 2000cc should compete fully in open market or price at least similar to that Labuan/Langkawi prices. Ok lah, slap a bit on duties taxes but then those items shouldn’t be factored in car loans anymore. 2000cc limit actually just to keep some goons happy (can still survive also?) while people have the best choice of cars imaginable finally. Luxury and necessity finally defined on cars.

2. Review road tax policy. Currently road tax is based on engine capacity regardless of petrol or diesel. Govt should reward car users that drive fuel efficient and clean engine cars. Some sort of score points conducted by Puspakom/JPJ to determine two factors: 1. Fuel efficiency (mileage/litre of fuel used or km/Litre) and 2. CO2 emission (grams of C02 emitted per km or CO2g/km). Cars that returns good efficiency and low emission shall pay low road taxes regardless of engine capacity or petrol/diesel engine.

3. Cash for scrapping old cars must be extended to non-national cars. Also, set few criteria to enjoy higher rebates such as those buying new car that is fuel efficient and low emission (these factors officially determine by Puspakom/JPJ) shall entitle more cash rebates. Old cars meanwhile must be disabled definately (pouring sodium mixture to the engine) upon scrapping. While these scheme will receive great demand and to prevent chaos, a monthly quota shall be used and selection based on lottery system to give equal chances to everybody. Govt also can prepare the funds accordingly and shall not be caught up by big demand thus creating funds shortage.

4. Standardised car loan interest rates. This is something that Bank Negara can intervene to stop the financing sector act like a loan sharks once the open car market implemented. But until then, beggars cannot be choosy.

5. No more highway tolls? That is still RM30billion question, sadly.

Think about it: Viva sold at RM15K, Saga RM20K, Persona RM35K, Vios RM45K, Hilux RM70K, Triton RM65K, Camry RM90K etc.

The possible savings from open market, interest rates on car loans anywhere from RM20K per car can easily translate 5-6 years of fuel expenses which otherwise a big burden/ cost of servicing loans to car users. Since car prices at fair price, the fuel price issue will somehow irrelevant and only make the most fuel efficient, less emission cars a sensible choice. The question whether govt then to reduce fuel subsidy, sellling fuel at almost market price can be justifiable with lower cost of car ownership. Those use more fuel ultimately have to pay more or better choose a suitable car accordingly since open car market means you can only pick the best, clean and efficient car.

]]> By: ariefinm http://paultan.org/2009/09/01/another-volkswagen-ckd-plan-grinds-to-a-halt/#comment-258316 ariefinm Wed, 02 Sep 2009 05:14:20 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=16223#comment-258316 Well there is a possibility VW wants to assemble the sedans in Malaysia and SUV and MPV in Indonesia considering the market size and share. Indonesia is a number 1 market for MPV (that's why Proton made the Exora which already has 1500 bookings in the first week). However I must say that our build quality is not bad, you must not under estimate us. I have seen the CKD Touran and it uses the same materials as a normal VW should be. However there are some parts that look cheap but will take time to be enhanced. Also Indonesia actually exports the Daihatsu Gran Max (rebadged to Toyota Town Ace) in CBU form to Japan. This means we make cars in very strict Japanese quality. The Touran sells here at around Rp 395.000.000 / RM 136.000 and we consider it to expensive for a MPV that uses 1.4 TSI engine. But there are rumors that they will lower the price if full manufacturing is completed (not the assembly alone) Rgrds Ariefin-Jakarta Well there is a possibility VW wants to assemble the sedans in Malaysia and SUV and MPV in Indonesia considering the market size and share. Indonesia is a number 1 market for MPV (that’s why Proton made the Exora which already has 1500 bookings in the first week).

However I must say that our build quality is not bad, you must not under estimate us. I have seen the CKD Touran and it uses the same materials as a normal VW should be. However there are some parts that look cheap but will take time to be enhanced.

Also Indonesia actually exports the Daihatsu Gran Max (rebadged to Toyota Town Ace) in CBU form to Japan. This means we make cars in very strict Japanese quality.

The Touran sells here at around Rp 395.000.000 / RM 136.000 and we consider it to expensive for a MPV that uses 1.4 TSI engine. But there are rumors that they will lower the price if full manufacturing is completed (not the assembly alone)

Rgrds
Ariefin-Jakarta

]]> By: Mufasa http://paultan.org/2009/09/01/another-volkswagen-ckd-plan-grinds-to-a-halt/#comment-258313 Mufasa Wed, 02 Sep 2009 04:44:31 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=16223#comment-258313 ahh,,,all this is dream...it not going to happen for a cheaper car ... keep dreaming malaysian... ahh,,,all this is dream…it not going to happen for a cheaper car … keep dreaming malaysian…

]]> By: Zool http://paultan.org/2009/09/01/another-volkswagen-ckd-plan-grinds-to-a-halt/#comment-258312 Zool Wed, 02 Sep 2009 04:38:17 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=16223#comment-258312 Saudara Shah langsung tak ada Jati Diri. Actually Proton syarikat Malaysia sebenar. Saudara Shah langsung tak ada Jati Diri. Actually Proton syarikat Malaysia sebenar.

]]> By: where is ron97? http://paultan.org/2009/09/01/another-volkswagen-ckd-plan-grinds-to-a-halt/#comment-258302 where is ron97? Wed, 02 Sep 2009 03:01:30 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=16223#comment-258302 why sooo hard to find ron 97... most of the petronas are selling ron 95 ONLY. why sooo hard to find ron 97… most of the petronas are selling ron 95 ONLY.

]]> By: John D http://paultan.org/2009/09/01/another-volkswagen-ckd-plan-grinds-to-a-halt/#comment-258301 John D Wed, 02 Sep 2009 02:50:55 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=16223#comment-258301 merrick88 said:"...Passat CC was supposed to be priced at RM 270k but the M’sian Gov/Customs refuse to approve the pricing that VW Cars submitted and wants to jack the price up to RM 300k.." WTF are u talkin about? VW Cars (a.k.a. Cartrade) is just a lousy car dealer with appalling service. Who are they to "submit" a price to the Gov??? They're NOT the importer. merrick88 said:”…Passat CC was supposed to be priced at RM 270k but the M’sian Gov/Customs refuse to approve the pricing that VW Cars submitted and wants to jack the price up to RM 300k..”

WTF are u talkin about? VW Cars (a.k.a. Cartrade) is just a lousy car dealer with appalling service. Who are they to “submit” a price to the Gov??? They’re NOT the importer.

]]> By: tikus http://paultan.org/2009/09/01/another-volkswagen-ckd-plan-grinds-to-a-halt/#comment-258292 tikus Wed, 02 Sep 2009 01:56:36 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=16223#comment-258292 Proton make it happen man !! Divorce can remarried mah... Jetta can be the next waja replacement :) Proton make it happen man !! Divorce can remarried mah… Jetta can be the next waja replacement :)

]]> By: peroempat http://paultan.org/2009/09/01/another-volkswagen-ckd-plan-grinds-to-a-halt/#comment-258281 peroempat Wed, 02 Sep 2009 00:07:52 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=16223#comment-258281 It will totally beat down savvy and satria... It will totally beat down savvy and satria…

]]> By: nabill http://paultan.org/2009/09/01/another-volkswagen-ckd-plan-grinds-to-a-halt/#comment-258279 nabill Tue, 01 Sep 2009 18:55:06 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=16223#comment-258279 i agree we r 'blessed' with crap cars actually...its got to be the most expensive country to buy n run a car....so for us a j spec of a brand is such a wow ! we r missing on alot.... i agree we r ‘blessed’ with crap cars actually…its got to be the most expensive country to buy n run a car….so for us a j spec of a brand is such a wow !

we r missing on alot….

]]> By: CocoBear http://paultan.org/2009/09/01/another-volkswagen-ckd-plan-grinds-to-a-halt/#comment-258277 CocoBear Tue, 01 Sep 2009 18:29:05 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=16223#comment-258277 WTH, where is the Free Trade Agreement? This government is really unhelpful to private businesses! Dunno who is the master behind those troublemakers! @#$ WTH, where is the Free Trade Agreement? This government is really unhelpful to private businesses! Dunno who is the master behind those troublemakers! @#$

]]> By: gDude http://paultan.org/2009/09/01/another-volkswagen-ckd-plan-grinds-to-a-halt/#comment-258269 gDude Tue, 01 Sep 2009 15:49:09 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=16223#comment-258269 i'm sure Toyota will win the after sales service. Hardly sees one DRB service centre compare to Toyota. i’m sure Toyota will win the after sales service. Hardly sees one DRB service centre compare to Toyota.

]]> By: eddie http://paultan.org/2009/09/01/another-volkswagen-ckd-plan-grinds-to-a-halt/#comment-258268 eddie Tue, 01 Sep 2009 15:15:04 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=16223#comment-258268 i hate ppl said vios is underpower and dugong, u have or not before u said this ?? i hate ppl said vios is underpower and dugong, u have or not before u said this ??

]]> By: Bloggerooi http://paultan.org/2009/09/01/another-volkswagen-ckd-plan-grinds-to-a-halt/#comment-258267 Bloggerooi Tue, 01 Sep 2009 15:04:45 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=16223#comment-258267 Paul, we are just deprived for a good car which is sold at a much lower price abroad. Consider a dollar for a dollar, cars are much more affordable in other marketplace.Why? Paul, we are just deprived for a good car which is sold at a much lower price abroad. Consider a dollar for a dollar, cars are much more affordable in other marketplace.Why?

]]> By: Edward http://paultan.org/2009/09/01/another-volkswagen-ckd-plan-grinds-to-a-halt/#comment-258264 Edward Tue, 01 Sep 2009 14:46:34 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=16223#comment-258264 woo hoo.. if they ckd the lastest polo over here and price it nicely.. it will sell much much better than goreng pisang panas.... but i worry le if CKD by DRB ar will it end up like inokom Polo inokom Polo GTI inokom EOS wow... it sounds just sooooo national woo hoo.. if they ckd the lastest polo over here and price it nicely.. it will sell much much better than goreng pisang panas….

but i worry le if CKD by DRB ar will it end up like

inokom Polo
inokom Polo GTI
inokom EOS

wow… it sounds just sooooo national

]]> By: NA http://paultan.org/2009/09/01/another-volkswagen-ckd-plan-grinds-to-a-halt/#comment-258261 NA Tue, 01 Sep 2009 14:26:09 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=16223#comment-258261 That plant also assemble Mercedes Benz S500. It they (VW) can make it here, it will be top notch product that stand above most brand of the same category locally. Indonesia still need a while (1-2 years) to reach VW's minimum Automotive quality for Asia market. That plant also assemble Mercedes Benz S500. It they (VW) can make it here, it will be top notch product that stand above most brand of the same category locally. Indonesia still need a while (1-2 years) to reach VW’s minimum Automotive quality for Asia market.

]]> By: epol http://paultan.org/2009/09/01/another-volkswagen-ckd-plan-grinds-to-a-halt/#comment-258256 epol Tue, 01 Sep 2009 13:54:00 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=16223#comment-258256 if it true then stupid laa gomen. stupid stupid stupid. if it true then stupid laa gomen. stupid stupid stupid.

]]> By: mitlanevo http://paultan.org/2009/09/01/another-volkswagen-ckd-plan-grinds-to-a-halt/#comment-258251 mitlanevo Tue, 01 Sep 2009 13:31:00 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=16223#comment-258251 Polo and City should be priced same with Persona..... PS: FO Vios..... Polo and City should be priced same with Persona…..

PS: FO Vios…..

]]> By: 9166 http://paultan.org/2009/09/01/another-volkswagen-ckd-plan-grinds-to-a-halt/#comment-258245 9166 Tue, 01 Sep 2009 13:17:18 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=16223#comment-258245 Dream on. It will not happen in a million BN years. The other foreign CKD are for the luxury market and the other CKD is for small brands. VW is a giant car manufacturer for the average person, P1 and P2 will pee in their pants if VW can CKD. Dream on. It will not happen in a million BN years. The other foreign CKD are for the luxury market and the other CKD is for small brands. VW is a giant car manufacturer for the average person, P1 and P2 will pee in their pants if VW can CKD.

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