Comments on: Tony Fernandes to take the helm of Malaysian-backed Lotus F1 Team only temporarily http://paultan.org/2009/09/21/tony-fernandes-to-take-the-helm-of-malaysian-backed-lotus-f1-team-only-temporarily/ Paul Tan on the Automotive Industry Wed, 15 Feb 2012 04:02:11 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Proton http://paultan.org/2009/09/21/tony-fernandes-to-take-the-helm-of-malaysian-backed-lotus-f1-team-only-temporarily/#comment-262713 Proton Fri, 25 Sep 2009 15:00:31 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=16327#comment-262713 why???? *yawn* why????

*yawn*

]]> By: Diablo http://paultan.org/2009/09/21/tony-fernandes-to-take-the-helm-of-malaysian-backed-lotus-f1-team-only-temporarily/#comment-262594 Diablo Thu, 24 Sep 2009 18:40:04 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=16327#comment-262594 Further to najibest comment, Proton does not have the said amount to spend and so it will be the govt that will pump in the funds albeit via Proton Further to najibest comment, Proton does not have the said amount to spend and so it will be the govt that will pump in the funds albeit via Proton

]]> By: Najibest http://paultan.org/2009/09/21/tony-fernandes-to-take-the-helm-of-malaysian-backed-lotus-f1-team-only-temporarily/#comment-262568 Najibest Thu, 24 Sep 2009 14:24:16 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=16327#comment-262568 so far what we know is that, the minimum budget for F1 would be around 40 million pounds per year excluding drivers fee. so far the investors named in the venture are Tony Fernandes (not airasia, it has been clearly stated that Tony's involvement in the team is purely personal, not related to airasia) and Naza. Assuming Proton would foot a maximum 1/2 of the bill...around 20 million pounds, that'll be around RM110 million per year...i doubt the other investors are willing to foot the other RM110 million per year for the venture even petronas sponsorship is around USD 20 million per year only and that was towards a big team with strong brand recognition... besides that, the team is contracted to use the cosworth engine for a few years (condition for entry) and they need to build a team from scratch, i wonder how much more money do they need. i mean they keep on comparing the malaysian team with force india, but that team actually started from the Jordan F1 team, to Midlands F1 to Spyker F1..millions have been poured by the previous owners so definitely it's not similar to the malaysian's team case... so far what we know is that, the minimum budget for F1 would be around 40 million pounds per year excluding drivers fee. so far the investors named in the venture are Tony Fernandes (not airasia, it has been clearly stated that Tony's involvement in the team is purely personal, not related to airasia) and Naza. Assuming Proton would foot a maximum 1/2 of the bill…around 20 million pounds, that'll be around RM110 million per year…i doubt the other investors are willing to foot the other RM110 million per year for the venture

even petronas sponsorship is around USD 20 million per year only and that was towards a big team with strong brand recognition…

besides that, the team is contracted to use the cosworth engine for a few years (condition for entry) and they need to build a team from scratch, i wonder how much more money do they need. i mean they keep on comparing the malaysian team with force india, but that team actually started from the Jordan F1 team, to Midlands F1 to Spyker F1..millions have been poured by the previous owners so definitely it's not similar to the malaysian's team case…

]]> By: roti naan1 http://paultan.org/2009/09/21/tony-fernandes-to-take-the-helm-of-malaysian-backed-lotus-f1-team-only-temporarily/#comment-262556 roti naan1 Thu, 24 Sep 2009 12:53:57 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=16327#comment-262556 I foresee a disaster will come. Money invested will be gone up in smoke. I foresee a disaster will come. Money invested will be gone up in smoke.

]]> By: lky http://paultan.org/2009/09/21/tony-fernandes-to-take-the-helm-of-malaysian-backed-lotus-f1-team-only-temporarily/#comment-262521 lky Wed, 23 Sep 2009 22:29:16 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=16327#comment-262521 lets hope for the best & see what will happen! lets hope for the best & see what will happen!

]]> By: InsaneClown http://paultan.org/2009/09/21/tony-fernandes-to-take-the-helm-of-malaysian-backed-lotus-f1-team-only-temporarily/#comment-262506 InsaneClown Wed, 23 Sep 2009 17:50:20 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=16327#comment-262506 Instead of spending money on developing an F1 team which we dont have any experience, why dont the govt spend it on a rally team & our msian drivers instead like Karamjit Singh? He's a former APRC champion & will definitely be able to guide our young drivers as well as share his useful knowledge. Instead of spending money on developing an F1 team which we dont have any experience, why dont the govt spend it on a rally team & our msian drivers instead like Karamjit Singh? He's a former APRC champion & will definitely be able to guide our young drivers as well as share his useful knowledge.

]]> By: Backmarker http://paultan.org/2009/09/21/tony-fernandes-to-take-the-helm-of-malaysian-backed-lotus-f1-team-only-temporarily/#comment-262499 Backmarker Wed, 23 Sep 2009 16:54:53 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=16327#comment-262499 Tony will milk dry everything in sight. This is seen as a money making project for Tony. He will oversee tenders and contracts and suppliers. After the 1M'sia team is up and running he will cabut cos by that time his piggy bank wld be extremely healthy. Tony proof that you are commited and sincere. Stay with this team thru thick & thin !!! Tony will milk dry everything in sight.

This is seen as a money making project for Tony.

He will oversee tenders and contracts and suppliers.

After the 1M'sia team is up and running he will cabut

cos by that time his piggy bank wld be extremely healthy.

Tony proof that you are commited and sincere. Stay with this team

thru thick & thin !!!

]]> By: JEAN TODT for 1Malay http://paultan.org/2009/09/21/tony-fernandes-to-take-the-helm-of-malaysian-backed-lotus-f1-team-only-temporarily/#comment-262467 JEAN TODT for 1Malay Wed, 23 Sep 2009 10:19:40 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=16327#comment-262467 JEAN TODT (former Ferrari F1 team champion legend with Michael Schumacher)... Jean Todt will be the new Team Principal of 1Malaysia F1 Team.. he already promise to help Malaysia to be a superpower in automotive industry. and hopefully Paul Tan can be the advisor.. hehe :P JEAN TODT (former Ferrari F1 team champion legend with Michael Schumacher)… Jean Todt will be the new Team Principal of 1Malaysia F1 Team.. he already promise to help Malaysia to be a superpower in automotive industry.

and hopefully Paul Tan can be the advisor.. hehe :P

]]> By: davv http://paultan.org/2009/09/21/tony-fernandes-to-take-the-helm-of-malaysian-backed-lotus-f1-team-only-temporarily/#comment-262464 davv Wed, 23 Sep 2009 10:10:02 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=16327#comment-262464 My dream team Principal : Jean Todt Technical Director : Adrian Newey Driver 1: Fernando Alonso Driver 2 : Fairuz Fauzy Adviser : Michael Schumacher My dream team

Principal : Jean Todt

Technical Director : Adrian Newey

Driver 1: Fernando Alonso

Driver 2 : Fairuz Fauzy

Adviser : Michael Schumacher

]]> By: Jumbsuck http://paultan.org/2009/09/21/tony-fernandes-to-take-the-helm-of-malaysian-backed-lotus-f1-team-only-temporarily/#comment-262454 Jumbsuck Wed, 23 Sep 2009 08:25:19 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=16327#comment-262454 "...Tony himself admits that it is a tall order right now to have a Malaysian team principal right away..." But how grand the achievement it would be to send angka-sawan to land on the sun for whatever cost. "...My personal preference would be to try to get someone with lots of experience, though he may be ending his career, who can add a lot of experience and develop the car..." Maybe some angka-sawan that is not afraid of the sun, like some Eskimo guy. "...The right personality that can transfer knowledge and enjoy working with people is critical..." Eskimo angka-sawan can teach even a mat rempit how to embrace easily the heat of the sun properly. "...There’s no point throwing someone in at the deep end if he’s not ready,...” The angka-sawan can always try to land on the sun during night time or best on winter. "…Tony himself admits that it is a tall order right now to have a Malaysian team principal right away…"

But how grand the achievement it would be to send angka-sawan to land on the sun for whatever cost.

"…My personal preference would be to try to get someone with lots of experience, though he may be ending his career, who can add a lot of experience and develop the car…"

Maybe some angka-sawan that is not afraid of the sun, like some Eskimo guy.

"…The right personality that can transfer knowledge and enjoy working with people is critical…"

Eskimo angka-sawan can teach even a mat rempit how to embrace easily the heat of the sun properly.

"…There’s no point throwing someone in at the deep end if he’s not ready,…”

The angka-sawan can always try to land on the sun during night time or best on winter.

]]> By: Elvis http://paultan.org/2009/09/21/tony-fernandes-to-take-the-helm-of-malaysian-backed-lotus-f1-team-only-temporarily/#comment-262403 Elvis Tue, 22 Sep 2009 19:24:01 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=16327#comment-262403 My goodness!!....what makes you think that Tony willingly spend his money on F1? Dont you guys know about PROXY.....nowadays, you can launder money using other people's name...hey, that was started during our old man time friends.... My goodness!!….what makes you think that Tony willingly spend his money on F1? Dont you guys know about PROXY…..nowadays, you can launder money using other people's name…hey, that was started during our old man time friends….

]]> By: kamilskaz http://paultan.org/2009/09/21/tony-fernandes-to-take-the-helm-of-malaysian-backed-lotus-f1-team-only-temporarily/#comment-262375 kamilskaz Tue, 22 Sep 2009 15:13:14 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=16327#comment-262375 tu lah bangang nama. najib said, September 22, 2009 @ 12:41 pm "bodoh…mercedes n ferrari pon nak quit f1…malaysia nak join…bodoh nye najib…kata takde duit nak bagi bonus…tp f1 makan BILLIONS bole bikin…bodoh" tony punya duit suka hati dia lah.lain kali semak dulu sebelum menyemak macam lalang tu lah bangang nama.

najib said,

September 22, 2009 @ 12:41 pm

"bodoh…mercedes n ferrari pon nak quit f1…malaysia nak join…bodoh nye najib…kata takde duit nak bagi bonus…tp f1 makan BILLIONS bole bikin…bodoh"

tony punya duit suka hati dia lah.lain kali semak dulu sebelum menyemak macam lalang

]]> By: anwar http://paultan.org/2009/09/21/tony-fernandes-to-take-the-helm-of-malaysian-backed-lotus-f1-team-only-temporarily/#comment-262368 anwar Tue, 22 Sep 2009 14:48:02 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=16327#comment-262368 ramai orang bodoh yang anggap pandai dan kata orang bodoh. samalah dulu masa buat putrajaya, sibok2 kata membazir dan nak lelong bila dapat kuasa. sekarang sibok2 nak duduk putrajaya. bodoh punya orang bodoh ... ramai orang bodoh yang anggap pandai dan kata orang bodoh. samalah dulu masa buat putrajaya, sibok2 kata membazir dan nak lelong bila dapat kuasa. sekarang sibok2 nak duduk putrajaya. bodoh punya orang bodoh …

]]> By: korokmu http://paultan.org/2009/09/21/tony-fernandes-to-take-the-helm-of-malaysian-backed-lotus-f1-team-only-temporarily/#comment-262366 korokmu Tue, 22 Sep 2009 14:05:56 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=16327#comment-262366 najib said, September 22, 2009 @ 12:41 pm bodoh…mercedes n ferrari pon nak quit f1…malaysia nak join…bodoh nye najib…kata takde duit nak bagi bonus…tp f1 makan BILLIONS bole bikin…bodoh --- ko lagi bodoh.. tak tahu ape-ape tapi komen macam tau je.. najib said,

September 22, 2009 @ 12:41 pm

bodoh…mercedes n ferrari pon nak quit f1…malaysia nak join…bodoh nye najib…kata takde duit nak bagi bonus…tp f1 makan BILLIONS bole bikin…bodoh

—

ko lagi bodoh.. tak tahu ape-ape tapi komen macam tau je..

]]> By: S_S http://paultan.org/2009/09/21/tony-fernandes-to-take-the-helm-of-malaysian-backed-lotus-f1-team-only-temporarily/#comment-262364 S_S Tue, 22 Sep 2009 13:37:17 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=16327#comment-262364 Quote from Tony F: "“My personal preference would be to try to get someone with lots of experience, though he may be ending his career, who can add a lot of experience and develop the car." I can smelled Datuk Jean T name here :-). Quote from Tony F:

"“My personal preference would be to try to get someone with lots of experience, though he may be ending his career, who can add a lot of experience and develop the car."

I can smelled Datuk Jean T name here :-) .

]]> By: najib http://paultan.org/2009/09/21/tony-fernandes-to-take-the-helm-of-malaysian-backed-lotus-f1-team-only-temporarily/#comment-262361 najib Tue, 22 Sep 2009 12:41:14 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=16327#comment-262361 bodoh...mercedes n ferrari pon nak quit f1...malaysia nak join...bodoh nye najib...kata takde duit nak bagi bonus...tp f1 makan BILLIONS bole bikin...bodoh bodoh…mercedes n ferrari pon nak quit f1…malaysia nak join…bodoh nye najib…kata takde duit nak bagi bonus…tp f1 makan BILLIONS bole bikin…bodoh

]]> By: Elvis http://paultan.org/2009/09/21/tony-fernandes-to-take-the-helm-of-malaysian-backed-lotus-f1-team-only-temporarily/#comment-262358 Elvis Tue, 22 Sep 2009 12:15:57 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=16327#comment-262358 All i see is how our leaders trying to launder stimulus money. This 1MF1 will definately cost RM1 billion or more. And to think that some states in Malaysia have terrible road conditions and their spent it on what? INTERNATIONAL BIG BOYS TOYS!!! I see the rational of Sepang F1, or Twin Towers or tolled roads but this one......LU PIKIR SENDIRI... All i see is how our leaders trying to launder stimulus money. This 1MF1 will definately cost RM1 billion or more. And to think that some states in Malaysia have terrible road conditions and their spent it on what? INTERNATIONAL BIG BOYS TOYS!!! I see the rational of Sepang F1, or Twin Towers or tolled roads but this one……LU PIKIR SENDIRI…

]]> By: MycarMylife http://paultan.org/2009/09/21/tony-fernandes-to-take-the-helm-of-malaysian-backed-lotus-f1-team-only-temporarily/#comment-262345 MycarMylife Tue, 22 Sep 2009 09:03:47 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=16327#comment-262345 See the story line , some one to start kick the gravy train , muster in the mulahs , then let loose the taps and voila! millons will vanish and nobody knows what happened and just stare in awe and then try to close the barn door after the horses have run. Selamat selamat hari raya and start your engines for the pride of your country. Wonder where is that guy sheik ?who started A1GP ? See the story line , some one to start kick the gravy train , muster in the mulahs , then let loose the taps and voila! millons will vanish and nobody knows what happened and just stare in awe and then try to close the barn door after the horses have run.

Selamat selamat hari raya and start your engines for the pride of your country.

Wonder where is that guy sheik ?who started A1GP ?

]]> By: DMann http://paultan.org/2009/09/21/tony-fernandes-to-take-the-helm-of-malaysian-backed-lotus-f1-team-only-temporarily/#comment-262333 DMann Tue, 22 Sep 2009 06:05:35 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=16327#comment-262333 The way I look at this, it's pretty simple. No offense meant to anyone, but think about this right quick. On one hand we have a businessman who has so far shown that he has the Midas touch (Tony F.) and on the other hand we have government linked companies and the government itself trying to dabble in what is nowadays rightly nothing more than a marketing ploy. Let's face it, F1 is NOT a money making business. Somehow, why do I feel that this was originally a Malaysian government plan and Tony just got roped in simply because he saw this as an opportunity to market AirAsia on a grander scale than he is doing right now with WIlliams and nothing more? The way I look at this, it's pretty simple. No offense meant to anyone, but think about this right quick. On one hand we have a businessman who has so far shown that he has the Midas touch (Tony F.) and on the other hand we have government linked companies and the government itself trying to dabble in what is nowadays rightly nothing more than a marketing ploy. Let's face it, F1 is NOT a money making business. Somehow, why do I feel that this was originally a Malaysian government plan and Tony just got roped in simply because he saw this as an opportunity to market AirAsia on a grander scale than he is doing right now with WIlliams and nothing more?

]]> By: mystvearn http://paultan.org/2009/09/21/tony-fernandes-to-take-the-helm-of-malaysian-backed-lotus-f1-team-only-temporarily/#comment-262318 mystvearn Tue, 22 Sep 2009 01:55:32 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=16327#comment-262318 No idea why we need one. And apparently are you sure fernandez not staying long because Najib wants to change this Lotus F1 into 1Malaysia F1? This is sure to make anyone fed up. Imagine your business becoming state owned. No idea why we need one. And apparently are you sure fernandez not staying long because Najib wants to change this Lotus F1 into 1Malaysia F1? This is sure to make anyone fed up. Imagine your business becoming state owned.

]]> By: Mazda 3 MPS http://paultan.org/2009/09/21/tony-fernandes-to-take-the-helm-of-malaysian-backed-lotus-f1-team-only-temporarily/#comment-262314 Mazda 3 MPS Tue, 22 Sep 2009 01:14:48 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=16327#comment-262314 why do we need a team? why do we need a team?

]]> By: Ferruccio http://paultan.org/2009/09/21/tony-fernandes-to-take-the-helm-of-malaysian-backed-lotus-f1-team-only-temporarily/#comment-262297 Ferruccio Mon, 21 Sep 2009 23:34:02 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=16327#comment-262297 Does make you wonder why he is not staying on for a season or 2 to ensure stability. Is he discovering 'pre-wedding jitters'? Again, it doesn't quite make sense.. just like the whole 1MF1 announcement. Tony is the driving force behind the whole controversial project. If I were to have faith that it will turn out well, I would put my money on Tony thinking he is the only one who knows how to make it happen. And so this does not inspire confidence. The whole thing is riding on him and his reputation coz no one else in Malaysia has a clue how to make it work. Very odd. Having said that he is right to say that whoever is selected to replace should be someone with experience, not necessarily Malaysian. Does make you wonder why he is not staying on for a season or 2 to ensure stability. Is he discovering 'pre-wedding jitters'? Again, it doesn't quite make sense.. just like the whole 1MF1 announcement.

Tony is the driving force behind the whole controversial project. If I were to have faith that it will turn out well, I would put my money on Tony thinking he is the only one who knows how to make it happen. And so this does not inspire confidence. The whole thing is riding on him and his reputation coz no one else in Malaysia has a clue how to make it work. Very odd.

Having said that he is right to say that whoever is selected to replace should be someone with experience, not necessarily Malaysian.

]]> By: pulge http://paultan.org/2009/09/21/tony-fernandes-to-take-the-helm-of-malaysian-backed-lotus-f1-team-only-temporarily/#comment-262290 pulge Mon, 21 Sep 2009 22:43:18 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=16327#comment-262290 Actually I don't really mind, as long as they don't drag Proton into it.. Any words from DSZ on this?? Actually I don't really mind, as long as they don't drag Proton into it.. Any words from DSZ on this??

]]> By: kimi_ http://paultan.org/2009/09/21/tony-fernandes-to-take-the-helm-of-malaysian-backed-lotus-f1-team-only-temporarily/#comment-262288 kimi_ Mon, 21 Sep 2009 22:29:30 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=16327#comment-262288 This will be a failure..... This will be a failure…..

]]> By: slayer http://paultan.org/2009/09/21/tony-fernandes-to-take-the-helm-of-malaysian-backed-lotus-f1-team-only-temporarily/#comment-262284 slayer Mon, 21 Sep 2009 22:17:33 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=16327#comment-262284 Very quiet....everyone busy with hari raya Very quiet….everyone busy with hari raya

]]> By: Elvis http://paultan.org/2009/09/21/tony-fernandes-to-take-the-helm-of-malaysian-backed-lotus-f1-team-only-temporarily/#comment-262278 Elvis Mon, 21 Sep 2009 21:46:58 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=16327#comment-262278 Wat a waste of money...even China not wanting to have their own F1 team...Malaysia 'siok sendiri'...as usually.... Wat a waste of money…even China not wanting to have their own F1 team…Malaysia 'siok sendiri'…as usually….

]]> By: P2_permanent_basher http://paultan.org/2009/09/21/tony-fernandes-to-take-the-helm-of-malaysian-backed-lotus-f1-team-only-temporarily/#comment-262275 P2_permanent_basher Mon, 21 Sep 2009 21:20:25 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=16327#comment-262275 pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee fire that technical director, mike gascoye( whatever his name is spelt). He is just hopeless... pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee fire that technical director, mike gascoye( whatever his name is spelt).

He is just hopeless…

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