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	<title>Comments on: More details on the 1Malaysia F1 company</title>
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		<title>By: GrigreeBonBew</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/09/26/more-details-on-the-1malaysia-f1-company/#comment-303391</link>
		<dc:creator>GrigreeBonBew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Feb 2010 19:24:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All that lunacy is temporary.   Her turn would come next.   Dont be afraid for me.   Why does that disturb you?  Its your railroad thats building that new branch, isnt it?   No principles have ever had any effect on society.   I wouldnt think youd find them hard to deduce.   Id like to tell you just one story. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All that lunacy is temporary.   Her turn would come next.   Dont be afraid for me.   Why does that disturb you?  Its your railroad thats building that new branch, isnt it?   No principles have ever had any effect on society.   I wouldnt think youd find them hard to deduce.   Id like to tell you just one story.</p>
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		<title>By: TheKHAI</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/09/26/more-details-on-the-1malaysia-f1-company/#comment-267368</link>
		<dc:creator>TheKHAI</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 22:52:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Old Timers, YOU&#039;RE MY HERO!  
 
Sadly, najis doesn&#039;t have eyes cause they are najis. That why they are unable to see from different perspectives. They&#039;re just the coneless, buttly ass-cream of their master. 
 
So sad.... </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Old Timers, YOU&#039;RE MY HERO! </p>
<p>Sadly, najis doesn&#039;t have eyes cause they are najis. That why they are unable to see from different perspectives. They&#039;re just the coneless, buttly ass-cream of their master.</p>
<p>So sad&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: TheKHAI</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/09/26/more-details-on-the-1malaysia-f1-company/#comment-267365</link>
		<dc:creator>TheKHAI</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 22:46:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FADZ THE SUCKER, why don&#039;t you open your eyes (if you need a spectacle ask me, I will 1Malaysialy give you my old one!) and see the others&#039; critics in this post. Just don&#039;t become an odd-one-out, okay. Do you understand me, oddball? Do you got any ball? 
 
Nah, you dont have any, right? Chicken. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FADZ THE SUCKER, why don&#039;t you open your eyes (if you need a spectacle ask me, I will 1Malaysialy give you my old one!) and see the others&#039; critics in this post. Just don&#039;t become an odd-one-out, okay. Do you understand me, oddball? Do you got any ball?</p>
<p>Nah, you dont have any, right? Chicken.</p>
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		<title>By: TheKHAI</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/09/26/more-details-on-the-1malaysia-f1-company/#comment-267359</link>
		<dc:creator>TheKHAI</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 22:32:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dey Fadzly kichi! I can understand if you desperately intent on becoming that shiny-headed-baldy or the gendut-swine&#039;s sexslave (mentally and physically). Don&#039;t worry, your suckiness will remains with you cause youre are already heavily doctrined by them. Youre sure a bi. Hehehehe! By the way, wake up lah budus. open your eyes. Try to view things from different perspective. Don&#039;t just stay under their ketiak for eternity. Where are you living? KL? How about you come to Sabah / Sarawak for example and see what kind of development exist there. no? 2 negeri tu punya la besar, tp keadaannya? Even ketua menteri yg antik tu pun dah jadi kaya raya.  
 
Actually, I dont quite know what to write here, cause I&#039;m quite sleepy. Just writing to make you angry, and if better, cause you to have high blood pressure, and then KO. Anyway, just as I said,  
 
YOU&#039;RE SSSSSUUUUUCCCKKKSSSS, FFFFAAAAADDDDZZZZLLLLYYYYY.  
 
Come on, get a hi blood pressure / heart attack already, will ya?  
 
Blasted KATAK BAWAH TEMPURUNG. Double shit on a stick for ya! 
 
Cheers! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dey Fadzly kichi! I can understand if you desperately intent on becoming that shiny-headed-baldy or the gendut-swine&#039;s sexslave (mentally and physically). Don&#039;t worry, your suckiness will remains with you cause youre are already heavily doctrined by them. Youre sure a bi. Hehehehe! By the way, wake up lah budus. open your eyes. Try to view things from different perspective. Don&#039;t just stay under their ketiak for eternity. Where are you living? KL? How about you come to Sabah / Sarawak for example and see what kind of development exist there. no? 2 negeri tu punya la besar, tp keadaannya? Even ketua menteri yg antik tu pun dah jadi kaya raya. </p>
<p>Actually, I dont quite know what to write here, cause I&#039;m quite sleepy. Just writing to make you angry, and if better, cause you to have high blood pressure, and then KO. Anyway, just as I said, </p>
<p>YOU&#039;RE SSSSSUUUUUCCCKKKSSSS, FFFFAAAAADDDDZZZZLLLLYYYYY. </p>
<p>Come on, get a hi blood pressure / heart attack already, will ya? </p>
<p>Blasted KATAK BAWAH TEMPURUNG. Double shit on a stick for ya!</p>
<p>Cheers!</p>
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		<title>By: TheKHAI</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/09/26/more-details-on-the-1malaysia-f1-company/#comment-267352</link>
		<dc:creator>TheKHAI</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 22:17:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>???, I can give you money. REALLY can. But first you must give me your money, cause your money is my money, just like my money is yours. What do people call this? Its Perkongsian Pintar. Hehehehe </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>???, I can give you money. REALLY can. But first you must give me your money, cause your money is my money, just like my money is yours. What do people call this? Its Perkongsian Pintar. Hehehehe</p>
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		<title>By: GeramHati</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/09/26/more-details-on-the-1malaysia-f1-company/#comment-263436</link>
		<dc:creator>GeramHati</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 22:40:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Daniel, 
 
 Good point,  
 
Others, 
 
sudah bangun atau masih tidur lagi? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Daniel,</p>
<p> Good point, </p>
<p>Others,</p>
<p>sudah bangun atau masih tidur lagi?</p>
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		<title>By: Philip J. Fry</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/09/26/more-details-on-the-1malaysia-f1-company/#comment-263393</link>
		<dc:creator>Philip J. Fry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 17:23:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is the team name really &quot;Team Lotus&quot;, not &quot;Lotus F1 Team&quot;?  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.formula1.com/news/headlines/2009/9/9934.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.formula1.com/news/headlines/2009/9/993...&lt;/a&gt; </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is the team name really &quot;Team Lotus&quot;, not &quot;Lotus F1 Team&quot;?<br />
  <a href="http://www.formula1.com/news/headlines/2009/9/9934.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.formula1.com/news/headlines/2009/9/993&#8230;</a></p>
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		<title>By: a_hope</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/09/26/more-details-on-the-1malaysia-f1-company/#comment-263358</link>
		<dc:creator>a_hope</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 15:15:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sadly and worrying me more is the consequences,  gov/petronas over deficit of this unessacessy event end up cutting patrol sponsor, petrol price up, food price up, everying also up.  We rakyat r the one who suffer. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sadly and worrying me more is the consequences,  gov/petronas over deficit of this unessacessy event end up cutting patrol sponsor, petrol price up, food price up, everying also up.  We rakyat r the one who suffer.</p>
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		<title>By: proton user</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/09/26/more-details-on-the-1malaysia-f1-company/#comment-263324</link>
		<dc:creator>proton user</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 12:40:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Daniel, if the G thought for the public to reduce cost of living for everyone, it wont happen until 20+ years, proton still produce car that the power windows failed so often, and becoming a laugh stock. Can u imagine supplying lousy quality power windows for 20+ years without improvement can survive? 
Built a F1 car...it is a money spending project where goes back to the party, just another PKFZ case for sure. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Daniel, if the G thought for the public to reduce cost of living for everyone, it wont happen until 20+ years, proton still produce car that the power windows failed so often, and becoming a laugh stock. Can u imagine supplying lousy quality power windows for 20+ years without improvement can survive?</p>
<p>Built a F1 car&#8230;it is a money spending project where goes back to the party, just another PKFZ case for sure.</p>
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		<title>By: tokmoh</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/09/26/more-details-on-the-1malaysia-f1-company/#comment-263226</link>
		<dc:creator>tokmoh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 01:19:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Petronas where got top 5 in the world la. Go google Fortune Global 500, if I&#039;m nt mistaken, this yr have been their best ranking, and it&#039;s at 80th. Among oil n gas companies, it&#039;s the 17th largest. 
  &lt;a href=&quot;http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/global500/2009/snapshots/6418.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/global500/...&lt;/a&gt; </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Petronas where got top 5 in the world la. Go google Fortune Global 500, if I&#039;m nt mistaken, this yr have been their best ranking, and it&#039;s at 80th. Among oil n gas companies, it&#039;s the 17th largest.</p>
<p>  <a href="http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/global500/2009/snapshots/6418.html" rel="nofollow">http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/global500/&#8230;</a></p>
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		<title>By: paxter</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/09/26/more-details-on-the-1malaysia-f1-company/#comment-263224</link>
		<dc:creator>paxter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 01:04:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL petronas is gov funded? lol PETRONAS is the national fuckup banker... ANY other GLC or G dept need money go to petronas at one point petronas former chairman was also the boss of MAS cause of the mess up they did in their management... at one time petronas was the top 5 companies in the world. If they did not have to give so much money to donkeys wonder where petronas is now.... please la give some credit to that company....  
 
Personally if petronas sponsors this team that is from pressure from the G not their own doing... they rather stay with sauber version 3.0 
 
btw spore circuit is the most boring race around... also they are at a massive lost... </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL petronas is gov funded? lol PETRONAS is the national fuckup banker&#8230; ANY other GLC or G dept need money go to petronas at one point petronas former chairman was also the boss of MAS cause of the mess up they did in their management&#8230; at one time petronas was the top 5 companies in the world. If they did not have to give so much money to donkeys wonder where petronas is now&#8230;. please la give some credit to that company&#8230;. </p>
<p>Personally if petronas sponsors this team that is from pressure from the G not their own doing&#8230; they rather stay with sauber version 3.0</p>
<p>btw spore circuit is the most boring race around&#8230; also they are at a massive lost&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: daniel</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/09/26/more-details-on-the-1malaysia-f1-company/#comment-263207</link>
		<dc:creator>daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 22:38:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Our goverment simply do know know what is their clear objective! 
 
What type off technology they hope to get from involving F1? don tell me improve enjin performance and bla bla bla..... this is not clearly define! 
 
Is the knowledge get from this involvement can be commercialised? If yes, what is the time frame? is this the cheapest and fastest way to get this knowledge? 
 
can the goverment confirm that this team can sustain at least 5years of more in order for their &quot;technology&quot; to be matured and can be commercialised? What happen if after 1 or 2 years then this project is abandoned? U will get notting with this got head no tail mindset! 
 
Talk about proton, I am proton user, I use proton because it is economy (ONLY IN MALAYSIA). Majority of proton users in malaysia buy proton because proton is cheap compare with others (ONLY IN MALAYSIA). Proton is cheap not because they are good in controlling their cost but is forcing other car to sell at higher price! 
The T brand supporters are convinced by their quality and reliability. For H brand supporters are convinced by thier styling and spec. Both of them have their strong points (still depent on individual) but for proton users, most of the buy because of cheap compare with others (ANY ONLY IN MALAYSIA). 
 
If proton can buid a F1 car, but can not able a quality car, what is the purpose here? As a rakyat biasa, we need a economy and reliable car and not a F1 technology car! is this call RAKYAT DI UTAMAKAN? 
 
 
Spend more money does not mean u get more from your investment! we must calculate ROI! Look at Singapore, Do they need to find a new piece of land to buid a circuit? With some new idea and miminum investment, u can c how nice the Singapore circuit! By the way, the singapore F1 circuits idea is also contribute by malaysian. Look at how they attract &quot;top brain&quot; to work for them! 
 
As a rakyat, we want malaysia to suscess! we hope to achive so call wawasan 2020, but this is not only talk! we need to plan, we need to work hard! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our goverment simply do know know what is their clear objective!</p>
<p>What type off technology they hope to get from involving F1? don tell me improve enjin performance and bla bla bla&#8230;.. this is not clearly define!</p>
<p>Is the knowledge get from this involvement can be commercialised? If yes, what is the time frame? is this the cheapest and fastest way to get this knowledge?</p>
<p>can the goverment confirm that this team can sustain at least 5years of more in order for their &quot;technology&quot; to be matured and can be commercialised? What happen if after 1 or 2 years then this project is abandoned? U will get notting with this got head no tail mindset!</p>
<p>Talk about proton, I am proton user, I use proton because it is economy (ONLY IN MALAYSIA). Majority of proton users in malaysia buy proton because proton is cheap compare with others (ONLY IN MALAYSIA). Proton is cheap not because they are good in controlling their cost but is forcing other car to sell at higher price!</p>
<p>The T brand supporters are convinced by their quality and reliability. For H brand supporters are convinced by thier styling and spec. Both of them have their strong points (still depent on individual) but for proton users, most of the buy because of cheap compare with others (ANY ONLY IN MALAYSIA).</p>
<p>If proton can buid a F1 car, but can not able a quality car, what is the purpose here? As a rakyat biasa, we need a economy and reliable car and not a F1 technology car! is this call RAKYAT DI UTAMAKAN?</p>
<p>Spend more money does not mean u get more from your investment! we must calculate ROI! Look at Singapore, Do they need to find a new piece of land to buid a circuit? With some new idea and miminum investment, u can c how nice the Singapore circuit! By the way, the singapore F1 circuits idea is also contribute by malaysian. Look at how they attract &quot;top brain&quot; to work for them!</p>
<p>As a rakyat, we want malaysia to suscess! we hope to achive so call wawasan 2020, but this is not only talk! we need to plan, we need to work hard!</p>
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		<title>By: boleh!</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/09/26/more-details-on-the-1malaysia-f1-company/#comment-263191</link>
		<dc:creator>boleh!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 19:19:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey fren, me not gay. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey fren, me not gay.</p>
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		<title>By: boleh!supporter</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/09/26/more-details-on-the-1malaysia-f1-company/#comment-263187</link>
		<dc:creator>boleh!supporter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 18:38:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Boleh! I support you man! You are my man! 
 
but when Proton selling in Msia more expensive than overseas, we are destinay to be doom. For the new NAP going to release soon, expect the car price to jump, since I dont think any GLCs knows how to compete in business globally, so need the Governemnt policies to limit the consumer&#039;s choice, and controll the price. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Boleh! I support you man! You are my man!</p>
<p>but when Proton selling in Msia more expensive than overseas, we are destinay to be doom. For the new NAP going to release soon, expect the car price to jump, since I dont think any GLCs knows how to compete in business globally, so need the Governemnt policies to limit the consumer&#039;s choice, and controll the price.</p>
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		<title>By: bkk</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/09/26/more-details-on-the-1malaysia-f1-company/#comment-263173</link>
		<dc:creator>bkk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 16:33:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wonder how much money Proton gets from licensing the Lotus name ? So without involvement Proton is getting paid ! What a good deal ! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wonder how much money Proton gets from licensing the Lotus name ? So without involvement Proton is getting paid ! What a good deal !</p>
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		<title>By: osh_kosh</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/09/26/more-details-on-the-1malaysia-f1-company/#comment-263168</link>
		<dc:creator>osh_kosh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 16:20:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@zain, 
 
just wondering...who r u now? an engineer? thanks to UTM that give u the &#039;foundation&#039;... or is it your degree have none what so ever value that u end up working as a &#039;tukang sapu&#039;? or u had been &#039;kicked&#039; by them halfway &amp; can&#039;t complete your degree? why so angry then? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@zain,</p>
<p>just wondering&#8230;who r u now? an engineer? thanks to UTM that give u the &#039;foundation&#039;&#8230; or is it your degree have none what so ever value that u end up working as a &#039;tukang sapu&#039;? or u had been &#039;kicked&#039; by them halfway &amp; can&#039;t complete your degree? why so angry then?</p>
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		<title>By: zain</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/09/26/more-details-on-the-1malaysia-f1-company/#comment-263145</link>
		<dc:creator>zain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 13:27:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was a student from engineering faculty of UTM.   
Believe me, their expertise SUXX.  Even degree level research are crap. 
 
now they are gonna work on F1??   
 
OMG..... </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was a student from engineering faculty of UTM.  </p>
<p>Believe me, their expertise SUXX.  Even degree level research are crap.</p>
<p>now they are gonna work on F1??  </p>
<p>OMG&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Perodua Hater</title>
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		<dc:creator>Perodua Hater</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 13:08:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>boleh! said, 
 
September 27, 2009 @ 4:03 pm 
 
Lotus can sell cheaper in malaysia ar? THe damn stupid lotus is selling more expensive than Mitsubishi Evo X wor&#8230;&#8230;and my country own this lotus, can give discount? 
 
OI brother! do you know anything or not? everything want to be cheaper! like that you better use KAPCAI la! HAhaha! o go indon! better! everthing is Cheaper! I don&#039;t get you brother! you dont even know anything and you just compare things like that. you are just a joker man! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>boleh! said,</p>
<p>September 27, 2009 @ 4:03 pm</p>
<p>Lotus can sell cheaper in malaysia ar? THe damn stupid lotus is selling more expensive than Mitsubishi Evo X wor&hellip;&hellip;and my country own this lotus, can give discount?</p>
<p>OI brother! do you know anything or not? everything want to be cheaper! like that you better use KAPCAI la! HAhaha! o go indon! better! everthing is Cheaper! I don&#039;t get you brother! you dont even know anything and you just compare things like that. you are just a joker man!</p>
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		<title>By: Najibest</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 10:33:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the new litespeed/lotus/proton whatever team would be using a standard engine from cosworth, standard gear box and transmission for at least 3 years due to the entry requirement put out by the FIA...therefore, aside from building chasis, we won&#039;t gain much for the 3 years using cosworth.  
 
no we would not get engine tech from cosworth as this is not a tech sharing partnership like PETRONAS had with ferrari for the Sauber PETRONAS team before this (they went to the extent of forming Sauber PETRONAS engineering to build their own f1 engine) and the cosworth deal would be purely a customer engine supply..just like how red bull is having renault engine right now....renault engineers are attached with the red bull team to oversee anything engine related... 
 
ok, after 3 years what&#039;s next? i don&#039;t think proton or even lotus (lotus never have their own engines FYI) can develop a 2.4 V8 unit that&#039;s fit for f1...hey proton doesn&#039;t even have engines bigger than the 1.6 campro.....meaning that they would need to get an engine from someone....staying under a low budget means they would need to get a discounted engine supply (with strings attached of course like williams having to accept nakajima to source toyota engines) or stay with cosworth....again i don&#039;t see us transferring any engines tech to proton or lotus...obviously to get a manufacturer to share engine tech with the team would require big spending like in the sauber petronas days...then again petronas management view RM1 billion as a relatively small amount compared to proton.... 
 
so yeah, besides their announcement on how the venture would be great for the nation for tech transfer etc....i seriously don&#039;t see how we can actually gain much from the venture except if we&#039;re willing to do much more being the title sponsor of a major team with tech transfer clause as a requirement.. 
 
the 2 products that PETRONAS gained from F1 would be the PETRONAS FP1 superbike (extremely limited edition) and the PETRONAS EO1 engines...then again, i haven&#039;t seen any of of the 2 benefit the Malaysian people by any means so far..... </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the new litespeed/lotus/proton whatever team would be using a standard engine from cosworth, standard gear box and transmission for at least 3 years due to the entry requirement put out by the FIA&#8230;therefore, aside from building chasis, we won&#039;t gain much for the 3 years using cosworth. </p>
<p>no we would not get engine tech from cosworth as this is not a tech sharing partnership like PETRONAS had with ferrari for the Sauber PETRONAS team before this (they went to the extent of forming Sauber PETRONAS engineering to build their own f1 engine) and the cosworth deal would be purely a customer engine supply..just like how red bull is having renault engine right now&#8230;.renault engineers are attached with the red bull team to oversee anything engine related&#8230;</p>
<p>ok, after 3 years what&#039;s next? i don&#039;t think proton or even lotus (lotus never have their own engines FYI) can develop a 2.4 V8 unit that&#039;s fit for f1&#8230;hey proton doesn&#039;t even have engines bigger than the 1.6 campro&#8230;..meaning that they would need to get an engine from someone&#8230;.staying under a low budget means they would need to get a discounted engine supply (with strings attached of course like williams having to accept nakajima to source toyota engines) or stay with cosworth&#8230;.again i don&#039;t see us transferring any engines tech to proton or lotus&#8230;obviously to get a manufacturer to share engine tech with the team would require big spending like in the sauber petronas days&#8230;then again petronas management view RM1 billion as a relatively small amount compared to proton&#8230;.</p>
<p>so yeah, besides their announcement on how the venture would be great for the nation for tech transfer etc&#8230;.i seriously don&#039;t see how we can actually gain much from the venture except if we&#039;re willing to do much more being the title sponsor of a major team with tech transfer clause as a requirement..</p>
<p>the 2 products that PETRONAS gained from F1 would be the PETRONAS FP1 superbike (extremely limited edition) and the PETRONAS EO1 engines&#8230;then again, i haven&#039;t seen any of of the 2 benefit the Malaysian people by any means so far&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: kamal</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/09/26/more-details-on-the-1malaysia-f1-company/#comment-263116</link>
		<dc:creator>kamal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 10:31:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sort of deja vu. when Malaysia wants to organise F1 race in late 90s, many against the idea. now, there are many nations offer themselves to host the event. 
bahrain, china and singpore built new circuit, and last few days, canada and south korea added in the list.... i doubt they are into it if it is not viable.... </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sort of deja vu. when Malaysia wants to organise F1 race in late 90s, many against the idea. now, there are many nations offer themselves to host the event.</p>
<p>bahrain, china and singpore built new circuit, and last few days, canada and south korea added in the list&#8230;. i doubt they are into it if it is not viable&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: noname</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/09/26/more-details-on-the-1malaysia-f1-company/#comment-263051</link>
		<dc:creator>noname</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Sep 2009 21:12:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Elvis, 
 
US electing black people as the president? Is Obama muslim, no? So thats why. This is Islamic country.. Nothing to do with race. All race are equal.. </description>
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<p>US electing black people as the president? Is Obama muslim, no? So thats why. This is Islamic country.. Nothing to do with race. All race are equal..</p>
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		<title>By: linear_system</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/09/26/more-details-on-the-1malaysia-f1-company/#comment-263047</link>
		<dc:creator>linear_system</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Sep 2009 20:58:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>aiseh...always say this team use your money...but u always use your money to buy 4D number but never win...do u think its better than use it for F1 malaysian team? :D </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>aiseh&#8230;always say this team use your money&#8230;but u always use your money to buy 4D number but never win&#8230;do u think its better than use it for F1 malaysian team? <img src='http://paultan.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Squawk</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/09/26/more-details-on-the-1malaysia-f1-company/#comment-263034</link>
		<dc:creator>Squawk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Sep 2009 18:24:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s still something about the arrangements I don&#039;t get. If Proton is just involved due to the licensing of the name &quot;Lotus&quot;, how will that give it access to the tech transfer? Wouldn&#039;t Naza as team stakeholder have first right of ownership to the tech? 
 
I would think that Naza will want to use whatever available tech/resources to incorporate into cars they can potentially co-develop with their current partners or by themselves rather than give it to Proton. Or they could even sell the info to PSA or Kia. It just won&#039;t make sense for Proton to get free tech with just the use of their brand name. Unless N will eventually own P, then I rest my case. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#039;s still something about the arrangements I don&#039;t get. If Proton is just involved due to the licensing of the name &quot;Lotus&quot;, how will that give it access to the tech transfer? Wouldn&#039;t Naza as team stakeholder have first right of ownership to the tech?</p>
<p>I would think that Naza will want to use whatever available tech/resources to incorporate into cars they can potentially co-develop with their current partners or by themselves rather than give it to Proton. Or they could even sell the info to PSA or Kia. It just won&#039;t make sense for Proton to get free tech with just the use of their brand name. Unless N will eventually own P, then I rest my case.</p>
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		<title>By: anwarberahi</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/09/26/more-details-on-the-1malaysia-f1-company/#comment-263030</link>
		<dc:creator>anwarberahi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Sep 2009 17:18:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oitttt apa bising-bising. Sokong aku jadi PM la. Moto aku ialah JEJAKA TAMPAN DIDAHULUKAN. Yang buruk-buruk rupa sila ketepi. Lu orang hanya jadik perusuh je. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oitttt apa bising-bising. Sokong aku jadi PM la. Moto aku ialah JEJAKA TAMPAN DIDAHULUKAN. Yang buruk-buruk rupa sila ketepi. Lu orang hanya jadik perusuh je.</p>
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		<title>By: Mazda 3 MPS</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/09/26/more-details-on-the-1malaysia-f1-company/#comment-263027</link>
		<dc:creator>Mazda 3 MPS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Sep 2009 16:23:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>a waste of money </description>
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		<title>By: GeramHati</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/09/26/more-details-on-the-1malaysia-f1-company/#comment-263026</link>
		<dc:creator>GeramHati</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Sep 2009 16:10:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bash bash bash , lu org semua kena cuci kepala otak ! tengok lah sendiri.  
 
Bolehland 1Malaysia?! Hapus kan rasuah ,  sikap malas dan tidak apa apa baru lah cakap! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bash bash bash , lu org semua kena cuci kepala otak ! tengok lah sendiri. </p>
<p>Bolehland 1Malaysia?! Hapus kan rasuah ,  sikap malas dan tidak apa apa baru lah cakap!</p>
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		<title>By: GeramHati</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/09/26/more-details-on-the-1malaysia-f1-company/#comment-263025</link>
		<dc:creator>GeramHati</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Sep 2009 16:08:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Crime Up 
Universiti 200+ 
Bola sepak 150+ 
Public trsnport sucks!  
Last time spend money to asstranut ? industry space kita dapat apa? 
hantar roti canai? cakap sample result tak jadi , bazir duit!  
 
use the money here lah , ong kao kao! 
 
or use the money to develope more nice car lah proton! tunngu saja bila jual RM1 the lotus! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Crime Up</p>
<p>Universiti 200+</p>
<p>Bola sepak 150+</p>
<p>Public trsnport sucks! </p>
<p>Last time spend money to asstranut ? industry space kita dapat apa?</p>
<p>hantar roti canai? cakap sample result tak jadi , bazir duit! </p>
<p>use the money here lah , ong kao kao!</p>
<p>or use the money to develope more nice car lah proton! tunngu saja bila jual RM1 the lotus!</p>
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		<title>By: boleh!</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/09/26/more-details-on-the-1malaysia-f1-company/#comment-263024</link>
		<dc:creator>boleh!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Sep 2009 16:03:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lotus can sell cheaper in malaysia ar? THe damn stupid lotus is selling more expensive than Mitsubishi Evo X wor......and my country own this lotus, can give discount? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lotus can sell cheaper in malaysia ar? THe damn stupid lotus is selling more expensive than Mitsubishi Evo X wor&#8230;&#8230;and my country own this lotus, can give discount?</p>
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		<title>By: boleh!</title>
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		<dc:creator>boleh!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Sep 2009 15:54:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Malaysia boleh~!!!!!!!!!!! 
 
Angkasawan, boleh~!! 
 
F1 Driver, Boleh~!!! 
 
Rally Driver, Boleh~!!! 
 
Drifter, boleh~!!!  
 
Highway Kurang harga, TAK boleh~!!! 
 
Kereta murah sikit, TAK boleh~!!! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Malaysia boleh~!!!!!!!!!!!</p>
<p>Angkasawan, boleh~!!</p>
<p>F1 Driver, Boleh~!!!</p>
<p>Rally Driver, Boleh~!!!</p>
<p>Drifter, boleh~!!! </p>
<p>Highway Kurang harga, TAK boleh~!!!</p>
<p>Kereta murah sikit, TAK boleh~!!!</p>
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		<title>By: VoiceOfPeople</title>
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		<dc:creator>VoiceOfPeople</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Sep 2009 13:49:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Fadzly, 
 
Again, ur words makes me feel u r so lost. If rakyat diutamakan, why don`t let rakyat hav better proton with better price&amp;specs compare to oversea? Rakyat paying more for less than foreigner!! Don`t try tp tell me again this is a marketing strategy bcos all other automobile manufacturers never do so!! 
 
For 50+yrs over, we understand our BN government very well but u r still lost. If we can focus on 1 thg better, i.e. accelerate the development progress from 5 yrs to 2 yrs why we still need to diversify in other activity which is not VITAL and also not so promising? Currently we are told not to even hav a local driver bcos Tony is goin to look for som1 better from Singapore. Time passes and the interest of the situation is dampening. End up it may jz bcome a 2 cronis company investing in F1 and it is not related to M`sia at all but jz the 1 M`sia F1 name!! 
 
For me if we want a real development, the money is better to go for growing local talents i.e. provide more scholarships for good scorers from any ethnic. Even use the money to attract more m`sian talents come back to serve the country would be good. In the long run, we wil never afraid couldn`t find any good local engineers, drivers, managers etc later. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Fadzly,</p>
<p>Again, ur words makes me feel u r so lost. If rakyat diutamakan, why don`t let rakyat hav better proton with better price&amp;specs compare to oversea? Rakyat paying more for less than foreigner!! Don`t try tp tell me again this is a marketing strategy bcos all other automobile manufacturers never do so!!</p>
<p>For 50+yrs over, we understand our BN government very well but u r still lost. If we can focus on 1 thg better, i.e. accelerate the development progress from 5 yrs to 2 yrs why we still need to diversify in other activity which is not VITAL and also not so promising? Currently we are told not to even hav a local driver bcos Tony is goin to look for som1 better from Singapore. Time passes and the interest of the situation is dampening. End up it may jz bcome a 2 cronis company investing in F1 and it is not related to M`sia at all but jz the 1 M`sia F1 name!!</p>
<p>For me if we want a real development, the money is better to go for growing local talents i.e. provide more scholarships for good scorers from any ethnic. Even use the money to attract more m`sian talents come back to serve the country would be good. In the long run, we wil never afraid couldn`t find any good local engineers, drivers, managers etc later.</p>
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