Toyota Estima Hybrid now available from Naza
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There are currently only two car companies offering hybrid models officially here in Malaysia – Toyota and Honda. Despite the sensitive question of whether Malaysian technicians can maintain a complicated hybrid vehicle, the grey importers have started bringing them in without manufacturer support.
Naza is easily the biggest grey import player in Malaysia, thanks to them holding the largest chunk of Open APs in Malaysia. This 2008 model Toyota Estima Hybrid is currently going for RM 268,000 including a 1 year warranty and the one you see here in these photos has already been sold.
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This is the second generation Estima Hybrid featuring Toyota’s THS-II system. It’s based on a 2.4 liter gasoline engine mated to electric motors which reminds you of the Lexus HS250h and the Camry Hybrid but the implementation here is different – other than the usual front axle motor, there is a motor on the rear axle as well, effectively turning this into an all-wheel drive vehicle, hence the E-Four badge on the rear.
Much like the Camry Hybrid, the 2.4 liter engine is an Atkinson cycle variant, quite different from the one you can find in a normal Camry 2.4. The gasoline engine itself puts out 150 PS and 190Nm of torque. The front electric motor produces 105 PS and 270Nm of torque and goes through a 2.478 reduction gear. The rear motor is of a less powerful variant – 50 PS and 130Nm.
All systems can work together to produce a peak power of 190 PS. It’s not blistering as the vehicle is large. 0 to 100km/h takes 10.8 seconds. Under the 10-15 Japanese test cycle, the Estima Hybrid can achieve 20km per liter.
There is even an exhaust heat recovery system to recover thermal energy from the exhaust and use it to heat engine coolant. This helps reduce engine warm-up time, which enables the engine to shut off earlier when idling (for EV or auto start-stop functions).
We got to drive the Estima Hybrid around abit, though you could hardly call it a test drive that could produce any kind of evaluation as it was only around the Naza Automall carpark next to the Federal highway. All I can say is I love those Alcantara combination seats that this particular model has!
Like the Prius, the Estima Hybrid has a zero-emissions EV mode so you can drive around your neighbourhood, in a jam, or in a parking lot solely on the motor and NiMH batteries with the engine turned off. The Estima Hybrid was not as quiet in EV mode as the Prius. This is because with such a large interior and the many air conditioning vents required to cool it down, you constantly hear the air conditioner working. It didn’t help that it was such a hot day – I could not touch my E30’s steering for a short period of time once I got into my car to leave the place.
Various new meter indicators attempt to explain to you what’s going on but it’s all in Japanese so I didn’t understand at first, but after driving around a little you can pretty much guess which one tells you the battery level and etc.
Look after the jump for a few photos I snapped of the Estima Hybrid.
September 28, 2009 @ 3:49 am
awesome!
September 28, 2009 @ 5:07 am
expansive and unhnecessary. you will never recoup your investment…
September 28, 2009 @ 6:03 am
Yup, At my place there.. A whole half-cut (front & back) of a second-hand 07/08′ new model Estima only cost around RM28k!
The boss even tell me at Japan, those second hand cars cost like scrap metals and are not valuable at all! But why after some AP importers bring it to Malaysia and they cost almost 10X the money…
You can ask those people which came back from Japan and they can tell you those secondhand cars in Japan are so cheap, even student working part-time can own a used sport car…
Anyway i tot AP is going to end by 2010?!? Are there still delaying it?!?
September 28, 2009 @ 6:07 am
Estima gonna have a 3rd gen by 2011,rite??
September 28, 2009 @ 7:56 am
Is it hybrid like prius? Anyway, NAZA after sales is good.
September 28, 2009 @ 8:03 am
malaysian always taken for a ride but u know wat they dont seem to care$^^%&^(^(…..funny
September 28, 2009 @ 8:06 am
few months ago i already saw i unit in SARAWAK….black in color….very quite driving too….
September 28, 2009 @ 8:06 am
Naza is the biggest robber.
September 28, 2009 @ 8:35 am
price???
September 28, 2009 @ 8:41 am
Go to http://www.batfa.com/new_car_toyota_estima_hybrid.htm and select Total Calculation and see the price. From Japan to Msia Port, total cost is USD44640. Assuming we convert at a rate of 1USD-RM3.47, total cost in RM154900.80. See the price Naza is selling RM268000. Compare and see how much difference we are paying in terms of those AP and other sickening taxes in this country.
This is another link mentioning our Government mulling to change their ride to Merc or BMW http://www.malaysiainsider.com/index.php/malaysia/38746-government-mulls-benz-bmws-as-proton-delays-new-perdana. If proton is not that good, why still protect it? Why must the rakyats money be used just to ensure its survival? If the government want to buy Merc or BMW, then remove all the AP system and the sickening taxes. Open the market so that everyone is entitled to buy a good quality car at competitive market prices.
Protection policies are for those retards that cannot compete fairly with others thus resorting to underhand method for survival.
September 28, 2009 @ 8:46 am
it’s old platform already.
that Estima was a 2005/2006 model, then facelifted it this year.
and now they build the hybrid version to expand it lifetime another 3 years?
what a bloodsucker Toyota.
September 28, 2009 @ 9:06 am
naza after sales? is there any sort of this shit? their services is damn suck, overpriced and underperform.
September 28, 2009 @ 10:22 am
Many people prefer wish or alphard because most ESTIMA used as funeral
service even this second generation.
NOW the white ESTIMA has become symbol of funeral service…
September 28, 2009 @ 10:25 am
NAza after sales is horrible
September 28, 2009 @ 10:33 am
Littlefire, i second that.
Seems like reckons cars are sold at a quarter million here? only in Malaysia.
September 28, 2009 @ 10:37 am
Do they provide service for Hybrid? As they are not by Toyota service center, event that not all Toyota Service Center can service Hybrid !!
September 28, 2009 @ 10:48 am
if prius is 180k.. this Estima is cheap in comparison…
for corporate “green” usage
September 28, 2009 @ 11:05 am
new estimate hybrid already in singapore. My friend bought it’s and cost him only RM240K after convert from Sin dollar.
September 28, 2009 @ 11:47 am
Only in M’sia will ppl pay close to a quarter million or USD70,000 for a recon car.
September 28, 2009 @ 12:01 pm
nice design n acceptable even model 2005/06. malaysian maa… biar papa asal bergaya…
September 28, 2009 @ 12:54 pm
do u buy RM200,000> to save fuel .
lol
September 28, 2009 @ 1:13 pm
good luck claiming any warenty from naza….sooo expensive….and really pointless
September 28, 2009 @ 1:23 pm
This is way too expensive…
NAZA reallty treat us like FOOL ….
September 28, 2009 @ 1:24 pm
who will buy this RM200K++ “FUNERAL CAR”
September 28, 2009 @ 1:33 pm
that price… yet having cheap looking plastic covering whole interior…
September 28, 2009 @ 1:34 pm
is umw toyota unable to bring us this?
September 28, 2009 @ 1:56 pm
we must protect proton
September 28, 2009 @ 2:06 pm
Naza selling Estima Hybrid for
¥4.78 mil (RM186,340.93) @ RM268,000 after all taxes (44% above list price at Japan)
UMW Toyota selling Lousy base model Prius
¥2.45mil (this is higher spec than Malaysia model)(RM95493) @ RM175K after all taxes (83.25% above list price in Japan)
Not to mention the Estima taxes bracket was higher than Prius.
So, is your call my fellow wise smart Malaysians whether you should or should not buy Prius?
September 28, 2009 @ 2:11 pm
My experience with Naza… unreliable, horrible, bad after sales service, once they have sold the car and get the money they dont care about you anymore, unprofessional salesman, lack of technical knowledge about the car they sell, only thing of profit and overprice. This is no joke. My advice better get another AP dealer. As long as Kia and Peugeot under Naza, better dont buy unless you will experience the same.
September 28, 2009 @ 2:15 pm
Try living in the states n make 8k p.a n get a tax of 10perc.
Cmon la.live in reality.Semua mau condemn.petrol per liter in the uk is at least 1.4 pounds per liter.paa lagi mau.sume mau condemn.
work yr ass la kerja kuat.mau angan angan pakai kereta mahal tp kerja x mau kuat.
September 28, 2009 @ 3:36 pm
JQ said,
September 28, 2009 @ 8:41 am
“Go to http://www.batfa.com/new_car_toyota_estima_hybrid.htm and select Total Calculation and see the price. From Japan to Msia Port, total cost is USD44640. Assuming we convert at a rate of 1USD-RM3.47, total cost in RM154900.80. See the price Naza is selling RM268000. Compare and see how much difference we are paying in terms of those AP and other sickening taxes in this country.
This is another link mentioning our Government mulling to change their ride to Merc or BMW http://www.malaysiainsider.com/index.php/malaysia/38746-government-mulls-benz-bmws-as-proton-delays-new-perdana. If proton is not that good, why still protect it? Why must the rakyats money be used just to ensure its survival? If the government want to buy Merc or BMW, then remove all the AP system and the sickening taxes. Open the market so that everyone is entitled to buy a good quality car at competitive market prices.
Protection policies are for those retards that cannot compete fairly with others thus resorting to underhand method for survival.”
I SECOND YOUR OPINION JQ. WE FOLLOW THIS FORUM BCOZ WE ALL LOVE CARS. WE ALL WISH FOR BETTER RIDES WITHOUT BURNING A BIG HOLE IN OUR POCKET. IT IS ABSOLUTELY RIDICULOUS THAT THE NATIONAL AUTOMOTIVE POLICY PROTECT PROTON WHEN EVEN PROTON ARENT HELPING THEMSELVES (UNTIL LATELY…HOPEFULLY THE RESURGENCE LAST AND IMPROVE FURTHER) WHEN EVEN THE GOVT AND THOSE IN OUR PARLIMENT THEMSELVES PREFER TO BUY USE NON NATIONAL CARS. WE KNOW FOR A FACT THAT GOVT ARE ENTITLED TO TAX FREE CARS…AND WE ALSO KNOW THAT SOME GOVT ARE USING THOSE CARS FOR PERSONAL USE. WE ARE NOT HOPING FOR A COMPLETE REMOVAL OF AP AND TAXES BUT PLEASE REDUCE IT SIGNIFICANTLY. IT WILL DEFINITELY IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF LIVING IN MALAYSIA. IT MAY ALSO CAUSE A REDUCTION OF HIGHWAY FATALITY BECAUSE OF BETTER AND SAFER RIDES. I WISH FOR AN IMPROVED NATIONAL AUTOMOTIVE POLICY LATER BUT I DOUBT IT WILL HAPPEN ANY TIME SOONER. I SORT OF LOST HOPE THIS GOVT.
September 28, 2009 @ 4:09 pm
then where the maintenance will be done anyway??? dont think naza will do it for us lo… imported without manufacturer support doesn’t sound nice at all…
September 28, 2009 @ 4:29 pm
what a pity for those who buy this car, because it is from japan, u can’t get the radio frequency for our Bolehland. For Japan Recond, its frequency is from 78-90Mhz only. What a miss!
September 28, 2009 @ 4:50 pm
US, S.Korea, Jpn encourage ppl to use more green environ. cars by giving subsidies to ppl. In Bolehland, this is not a reality yet. If we were to buy these environment-friendly cars, we wud end up spending more according to the estimation of figures of these cars prices seen by some of the comments.
Agreed with most of the comments which mentioned that Naza’s after sales sux! Trully, it gives you the ‘Driving Difference’ experience. As mentioned by Helmi to get other AP dealer, alternative AP dealer would be Mofaz?
After reading the links from JQ, in a nutshell, PR proposed to use Camrys in Perak, they object, but BN/gov/judiciary themselves proposed to use Merc, they go with the decision.
September 28, 2009 @ 5:01 pm
there’s a device come into action where we called fm booster! haha
September 28, 2009 @ 6:34 pm
the windows are tinted… will the pulis catch this type of ride?
September 28, 2009 @ 6:42 pm
Only way to change the current grey AP importer, and our childrens’ future. Stop buying cars from any cronies. Period.
September 28, 2009 @ 7:07 pm
no need 2 buy from badge-robbers/ company cepat kaye like NAZA…
anyway, national car-maker is also trying to make hybrid(but, then cancel the project) and is now looking 4 EV…
come on, do ur job faster…don’t be a lag mesian!!
September 28, 2009 @ 7:23 pm
Thanks JQ, excellent link for the Japanese cars!
September 28, 2009 @ 9:22 pm
malaysia boleh!!!those got connection can earn more money
we only a slavery
September 28, 2009 @ 9:31 pm
3.3km/L? wow!
September 28, 2009 @ 10:11 pm
268k for a recond car? no thanks, no warranty support in long term either. too risky.
September 28, 2009 @ 10:49 pm
people always say that the government’s automotive policy is mostly aimed at protecting Proton or Perodua or whatever. but have we looked into the possibility maybe the government is doing this ‘protectionist’ automotive policy to safeguard the rich and powerful own sense of pride and maintaining their ego by not having us normal citizens the privilege of driving a better car than them who probably have influence higher up the government. as it is today, the many beemers, mercs, audis, lexus’s even honda, volkswagen cars are priced so that we the bread and butter citizens are not able to afford one whereas the prices of similar makes in other developing nations are far more competitive. another interesting idea to the price of this Estima which could probably go to the person noted above.the rich and powerful..
September 28, 2009 @ 10:58 pm
Remember RM268K is for RE-cond car!!!! Really a blood sucker! Sold 1 unit at least can tahan 1 month office expenses i think.
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MENG TAT said,
September 28, 2009 @ 2:15 pm
Try living in the states n make 8k p.a n get a tax of 10perc.
Cmon la.live in reality.Semua mau condemn.petrol per liter in the uk is at least 1.4 pounds per liter.paa lagi mau.sume mau condemn.
work yr ass la kerja kuat.mau angan angan pakai kereta mahal tp kerja x mau kuat. [/quote]
How much the english earn per month? Are they in RM / UK pound?
Please compare their public transport with ours. U will know where’s their tax gone.
September 28, 2009 @ 11:23 pm
bn suck..
September 28, 2009 @ 11:57 pm
JQ said,
September 28, 2009 @ 8:41 am
Go to http://www.batfa.com/new_car_toyota_estima_hybrid.htm and select Total Calculation and see the price. From Japan to Msia Port, total cost is USD44640. Assuming we convert at a rate of 1USD-RM3.47, total cost in RM154900.80. See the price Naza is selling RM268000. Compare and see how much difference we are paying in terms of those AP and other sickening taxes in this country.
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Eh, how come delivery cost so damn cheap? Only 900 dollars = roughly RM 3000+. Is it correct? Anyways I’d like to know the breakdown of the extra RM 113K, see how much is the profit margin.
September 28, 2009 @ 11:59 pm
RM268k for used recond Jap spec hybrid MPV with ONLY 1 year after sales support? What if the hybrid battery/system kong after 1 year? Die lar like that….
September 29, 2009 @ 12:32 am
Try living in the states n make 8k p.a n get a tax of 10perc.
Cmon la.live in reality.Semua mau condemn.petrol per liter in the uk is at least 1.4 pounds per liter.paa lagi mau.sume mau condemn.
work yr ass la kerja kuat.mau angan angan pakai kereta mahal tp kerja x mau kuat. [/quote]
How much the english earn per month? Are they in RM / UK pound?
Please compare their public transport with ours. U will know where’s their tax gone.
CAN’T BE DENIED ANYMORE
September 29, 2009 @ 2:54 am
How on earth you think regular Malaysian can achieve their dream? not many will dream for career excellence, not all aim to become tycoon one day, not all wish to be super rich….they are a lot that prefer to have simple life, have a terrace house and drive a decent car that they wish and chane it every 3-4 years. but on this land that exist before you, one got to be a businessman, owner of big time earning company or even as a pirated copy manufacturer. otherwise there will be not shortcut for a regular guys on street to drive something that they wish. I have Japanese friends that work as clarical staff in Japan and they can afford to have a dream car as toy. But of course, it’s never need for Japanese working class to have their own transport with their wide coverage and complete public transports networks.
2020 just another 10 years away, are we there yet? or it is still a far far away land?
September 29, 2009 @ 9:01 am
I been living in uk for 4 years and i found that u can get second hand honda civic 2000 for only 1000 pounds about RM6k, here in malaysia the car sell for about RM40k.
The change the petrol price every day according to market trade, and normal average cleaner can have decent house nice car, and money to travel overseas. Even those who does not work get benefit hence government pay them money.
September 29, 2009 @ 9:53 am
go buy proton juara la if wan a funeral car..
go buy viva la if wan buy a fuel saved car..
go buy savvy la if wan more safety (i see in their advertisement..can tahan very heavy bang one)..
& go buy this shit la if u got lot of cash & wanna act like a Fool~
Really sad la…& i so pity our-self malaysian …haiz…
tats y lot of road user die in accident every year….. coz lot of this kind of suck cars!!!
September 29, 2009 @ 12:38 pm
[quote]2020 just another 10 years away, are we there yet? or it is still a far far away land?[/quote]
YES! IF and only IF …we have a very OPEN MINDED leader AND happen many years ago.
September 29, 2009 @ 1:51 pm
Nice write-up. My thought about the not too silent engine.
It is good that the hybrid is not too silent, safety wise it may help pedestrian or cyclist to be aware about a vehicle coming near them and take pre-cautionary measure.
Actually, issue of silent vehicle is being discussed in Japan and the proposal is not to make all hybrid vehicle to be not too silent. Maybe because Japan has many cyclist and based on my experience, ,most accidents occurs at traffic light junction, involving a cyclist and a vehicle.
September 30, 2009 @ 1:26 pm
This Estima design getting a bit tired..never like it before also.Plus I will not splash that much RM for a RECOND!!regardless of the tech,that much money is obscene to spend on on this car.
September 30, 2009 @ 4:31 pm
kan best kalau proton exora design ini macam..adoiiii..
October 1, 2009 @ 2:29 am
stupid overpriced coffin car!
October 18, 2009 @ 10:29 pm
x puas hati jangan duduk malaysialah .pg balik negeri asal…
October 21, 2009 @ 1:38 pm
now go stock or not!??
January 10, 2010 @ 8:40 pm
toyota estima hybrid got places to repair in sarawak ?