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	<title>Comments on: Hyundai Equus Stretch goes on sale in Korea</title>
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		<title>By: atoz</title>
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		<dc:creator>atoz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 00:15:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>huhu..atoz alwayz got kong in gearbox...hyundai matrix got kong in gearbox..getz also..huhu...proton also got,perdana huhu.. 
if you not believe, u buy one atoz and try to drive from genting to kl..sure nangis loorr </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>huhu..atoz alwayz got kong in gearbox&#8230;hyundai matrix got kong in gearbox..getz also..huhu&#8230;proton also got,perdana huhu..</p>
<p>if you not believe, u buy one atoz and try to drive from genting to kl..sure nangis loorr</p>
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		<title>By: nuajon</title>
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		<dc:creator>nuajon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 20:32:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wow bigger n handsome </description>
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		<title>By: CYC</title>
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		<dc:creator>CYC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 21:53:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Impressive and fully captivised by Korean&#039;s engineerings and designs; hope it&#039;s as solid as it looks. Shame on our national brand....prices and safety unjustifiable. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Impressive and fully captivised by Korean&#039;s engineerings and designs; hope it&#039;s as solid as it looks. Shame on our national brand&#8230;.prices and safety unjustifiable.</p>
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		<title>By: Arif</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arif</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 14:27:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Our PM and TPM rides in a Perdana Executive V6 as their official car. PM&#039;s personal car is a 2007 Merc. S-Class 300 with the plate number 11 </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our PM and TPM rides in a Perdana Executive V6 as their official car. PM&#039;s personal car is a 2007 Merc. S-Class 300 with the plate number 11</p>
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		<title>By: questionable_one</title>
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		<dc:creator>questionable_one</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 16:33:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ahh, i see not said, thank you the very detailed explanation. It was really getting to me that the koreans are always looking for something original in design ALL THE TIME but always to no avail. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ahh, i see not said, thank you the very detailed explanation. It was really getting to me that the koreans are always looking for something original in design ALL THE TIME but always to no avail.</p>
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		<title>By: asran</title>
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		<dc:creator>asran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 15:53:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>always wanna look lika a mercedes. headlights of a merc &amp; rear of a lexus...boriiiinnngg!!!!! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>always wanna look lika a mercedes. headlights of a merc &amp; rear of a lexus&#8230;boriiiinnngg!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: CatmaN</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/10/03/hyundai-equus-stretch-goes-on-sale-in-korea/#comment-264723</link>
		<dc:creator>CatmaN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 10:50:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dah jadi mcm medan berbalah/berdebat on who&#039;s wrong &amp; who&#039;s right lak aku tgk Paul punya forum nih. kesian kat Paul.. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dah jadi mcm medan berbalah/berdebat on who&#039;s wrong &amp; who&#039;s right lak aku tgk Paul punya forum nih. kesian kat Paul..</p>
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		<title>By: CatmaN</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/10/03/hyundai-equus-stretch-goes-on-sale-in-korea/#comment-264721</link>
		<dc:creator>CatmaN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 10:48:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>too much bashing...way tooooo much, especially on PROTON! hey..this column is about hyundai equus. so logically..any comments posted/to be posted right here in this column are merely regarding hyundai (equus) or any car model with the same category (if in doing comparison). but from what i see here (and most previous topics), most readers/visitors are likely to bash PROTON. it&#039;s not that im a great supporter of PROTON but i think it&#039;s waaayyyy too much. mcm tak adil. 
 
anyway, it&#039;s just my 2 cents only. baru setahun jagung je dalam arena permotoran ni. so Paul...any comments on this..? ur opinion(s), perhaps..? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>too much bashing&#8230;way tooooo much, especially on PROTON! hey..this column is about hyundai equus. so logically..any comments posted/to be posted right here in this column are merely regarding hyundai (equus) or any car model with the same category (if in doing comparison). but from what i see here (and most previous topics), most readers/visitors are likely to bash PROTON. it&#039;s not that im a great supporter of PROTON but i think it&#039;s waaayyyy too much. mcm tak adil.</p>
<p>anyway, it&#039;s just my 2 cents only. baru setahun jagung je dalam arena permotoran ni. so Paul&#8230;any comments on this..? ur opinion(s), perhaps..?</p>
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		<title>By: Yap</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 19:08:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>juz like Genesis 4.6 </description>
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		<title>By: cfa</title>
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		<dc:creator>cfa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 16:24:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When Jap and Korea companies go overseas, they will always give first preference of biz back to their own countrymen. That means, buying Jap / Korea cars, electrical appliances and even choosing contractors. 
 
In Malaysia, the big companies in Malaysia don&#039;t even want to buy Malaysian products.  Don&#039;t talk about M&#039;sia companies overseas.. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When Jap and Korea companies go overseas, they will always give first preference of biz back to their own countrymen. That means, buying Jap / Korea cars, electrical appliances and even choosing contractors.</p>
<p>In Malaysia, the big companies in Malaysia don&#039;t even want to buy Malaysian products.  Don&#039;t talk about M&#039;sia companies overseas..</p>
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		<title>By: not</title>
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		<dc:creator>not</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 14:32:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>? Lexus was originally &quot;copycat&quot;. 
hyundai have no fault. 
 
-----------------------  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.drive.com.au/Editorial/ArticleDetail.aspx?ArticleID=58&amp;vf=1&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.drive.com.au/Editorial/ArticleDetail.a...&lt;/a&gt;  
 
When Toyota launched its Lexus luxury car brand a decade ago it made no secret that it had Mercedes in it sights.  
 
Ten years later, the Japanese are sending in the clones with increasing frequency. 
 
It&#039;s not just the expensive models which European makers accuse Japan of copying. Consider, for example, the headlights on the latest Toyota Tarago. Now picture those of the Peugeot 206. Look familiar? Looks as if they should share the same part number.  
 
When Audi&#039;s TT coupe and convertible were unveiled, diminutive Japanese maker Daihatsu had a car with an amazing likeness displayed at the very next Tokyo Motor Show called the Kopen. The latest Lexus coupe, due here before the end of the year, looks like a larger interpretation of Audi&#039;s Bauhaus design.  
 
Daihatsu has also built a miniature Hummer and, bizzarely, called it the Naked. And in 1999 at the same show, Mitsubishi took the wraps off a car that, if you squinted, you would swear blind was a new Mini.  
 
What about the &quot;teardrops&quot; on the headlights on latest batch of Hondas, such as the HR-V, Odyssey and the new Integra? A hint of BMW 3 Series perhaps? The tailights on the HR-V have a remarkable resemblance to the Volvo 850 wagon&#039;s. 
 
From a distance, Toyota&#039;s square-shaped MR2 looks like a Porsche Boxster. 
 
The original Toyota Celica was so inspired by the Ford Mustang of the era that today&#039;s enthusiasts call it the &quot;Mustang Celica&quot;.  
 
Now, even after 10 years, Lexus still hasn&#039;t broken its clone-like mould. The latest Lexus LS430 has the sillouette of the superseded Mercedes S Class and a headlight theme borrowed from the new S Class.  
 
When the covers came off the fourth generation Lexus at the Detroit Motor Show two years ago, Mercedes-Benz broke its corporate silence over what it called &quot;Japanese copycat cars&quot; but stopped short of calling it plagiarism. 
 
&quot;People explain to us it is really an honour to have someone copy our cars, but I don&#039;t think we see it that way any more,&quot; said Harald Leschke, the head of design at Mercedes-Benz. &quot;I think it is quite obvious that they admire the design, then try to do it their way. I&#039;m sure in some industries this sort of thing is not legal. 
 
&quot;What surprises us most is that [Lexus] are prepared to do it, in public, and that customers are prepared to buy their copycat cars.&quot;  
 
&quot;I think it&#039;s fair to say all their cars have been influenced by someone else&#039;s models,&quot; he said. &quot;They don&#039;t have a history so they have to copy someone else&#039;s.&quot;  
 
Industry experts argue that a flagship Lexus made sense when it was considerably cheaper than the German benchmarks. But now that it is priced the same, there&#039;s less incentive to drive an imitation. Nevertheless, Europe&#039;s car maker have now become so concerned about Japan&#039;s sincere forms of flattery that they are wary of showing concept cars of future models. 
  
Porsche, for example, has deliberately not shown &quot;design studies&quot; of its Cayenne off-roader because it fears a Japanese maker will be able to release its interpretation just as Porsche unveils the real thing.  
 
[...] 
The lack of history is also an Achilles heel. &quot;Japan had no horse-and-carriage era. True, the nobility were transported in carriages for a time, but these were import!!ed or the designs were copied.  
 
&quot;So the country skipped a critical phase in its maturation process as a car stylist. Too often, designers took the easy option and borrowed looks from around the world.&quot; </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>? Lexus was originally &quot;copycat&quot;.</p>
<p>hyundai have no fault.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br />
  <a href="http://www.drive.com.au/Editorial/ArticleDetail.aspx?ArticleID=58&amp;vf=1" rel="nofollow">http://www.drive.com.au/Editorial/ArticleDetail.a&#8230;</a>  </p>
<p>When Toyota launched its Lexus luxury car brand a decade ago it made no secret that it had Mercedes in it sights. </p>
<p>Ten years later, the Japanese are sending in the clones with increasing frequency.</p>
<p>It&#039;s not just the expensive models which European makers accuse Japan of copying. Consider, for example, the headlights on the latest Toyota Tarago. Now picture those of the Peugeot 206. Look familiar? Looks as if they should share the same part number. </p>
<p>When Audi&#039;s TT coupe and convertible were unveiled, diminutive Japanese maker Daihatsu had a car with an amazing likeness displayed at the very next Tokyo Motor Show called the Kopen. The latest Lexus coupe, due here before the end of the year, looks like a larger interpretation of Audi&#039;s Bauhaus design. </p>
<p>Daihatsu has also built a miniature Hummer and, bizzarely, called it the Naked. And in 1999 at the same show, Mitsubishi took the wraps off a car that, if you squinted, you would swear blind was a new Mini. </p>
<p>What about the &quot;teardrops&quot; on the headlights on latest batch of Hondas, such as the HR-V, Odyssey and the new Integra? A hint of BMW 3 Series perhaps? The tailights on the HR-V have a remarkable resemblance to the Volvo 850 wagon&#039;s.</p>
<p>From a distance, Toyota&#039;s square-shaped MR2 looks like a Porsche Boxster.</p>
<p>The original Toyota Celica was so inspired by the Ford Mustang of the era that today&#039;s enthusiasts call it the &quot;Mustang Celica&quot;. </p>
<p>Now, even after 10 years, Lexus still hasn&#039;t broken its clone-like mould. The latest Lexus LS430 has the sillouette of the superseded Mercedes S Class and a headlight theme borrowed from the new S Class. </p>
<p>When the covers came off the fourth generation Lexus at the Detroit Motor Show two years ago, Mercedes-Benz broke its corporate silence over what it called &quot;Japanese copycat cars&quot; but stopped short of calling it plagiarism.</p>
<p>&quot;People explain to us it is really an honour to have someone copy our cars, but I don&#039;t think we see it that way any more,&quot; said Harald Leschke, the head of design at Mercedes-Benz. &quot;I think it is quite obvious that they admire the design, then try to do it their way. I&#039;m sure in some industries this sort of thing is not legal.</p>
<p>&quot;What surprises us most is that [Lexus] are prepared to do it, in public, and that customers are prepared to buy their copycat cars.&quot; </p>
<p>&quot;I think it&#039;s fair to say all their cars have been influenced by someone else&#039;s models,&quot; he said. &quot;They don&#039;t have a history so they have to copy someone else&#039;s.&quot; </p>
<p>Industry experts argue that a flagship Lexus made sense when it was considerably cheaper than the German benchmarks. But now that it is priced the same, there&#039;s less incentive to drive an imitation. Nevertheless, Europe&#039;s car maker have now become so concerned about Japan&#039;s sincere forms of flattery that they are wary of showing concept cars of future models.</p>
<p>Porsche, for example, has deliberately not shown &quot;design studies&quot; of its Cayenne off-roader because it fears a Japanese maker will be able to release its interpretation just as Porsche unveils the real thing. </p>
<p>[...]</p>
<p>The lack of history is also an Achilles heel. &quot;Japan had no horse-and-carriage era. True, the nobility were transported in carriages for a time, but these were import!!ed or the designs were copied. </p>
<p>&quot;So the country skipped a critical phase in its maturation process as a car stylist. Too often, designers took the easy option and borrowed looks from around the world.&quot;</p>
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		<title>By: questionable_one</title>
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		<dc:creator>questionable_one</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 14:14:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is it just me or does everyone else notice that every car the koreans make have some similar looks to another car? doesn&#039;t this remind you of the lexus ls460+the s-class (1 generation before the new one)? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it just me or does everyone else notice that every car the koreans make have some similar looks to another car? doesn&#039;t this remind you of the lexus ls460+the s-class (1 generation before the new one)?</p>
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		<title>By: chyan</title>
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		<dc:creator>chyan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 13:55:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The pillars looks damn thick. I like it. :) </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The pillars looks damn thick. I like it. <img src='http://paultan.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: P1_P2_Are_Shit</title>
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		<dc:creator>P1_P2_Are_Shit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 13:32:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1,000 times better than any Perdana V6, but of course it&#039;s better. 
 
1. Perdana V6 is how many years old? 
2. It&#039;s a Proton! 
3. The technology &amp; looks of the Perdana V6 is... outdated? Old? Never re-engineered? Stagnant for 10 years? 
 
I love Hyundai. 
 
Go Korea! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1,000 times better than any Perdana V6, but of course it&#039;s better.</p>
<p>1. Perdana V6 is how many years old?</p>
<p>2. It&#039;s a Proton!</p>
<p>3. The technology &amp; looks of the Perdana V6 is&#8230; outdated? Old? Never re-engineered? Stagnant for 10 years?</p>
<p>I love Hyundai.</p>
<p>Go Korea!</p>
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		<title>By: Pak Marah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pak Marah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 13:00:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The automakers Proton &amp; Perodua  are protected by Malaysian government auto-policy thus no doubt the&#039;re still breathing in current bad economic situation. But for foreign&#039;s like Toyota, Honda, Hyundai ect. have made more competetive and global products for decades. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The automakers Proton &amp; Perodua  are protected by Malaysian government auto-policy thus no doubt the&#039;re still breathing in current bad economic situation. But for foreign&#039;s like Toyota, Honda, Hyundai ect. have made more competetive and global products for decades.</p>
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		<title>By: mitlanevo</title>
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		<dc:creator>mitlanevo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 12:24:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>looks good!!! </description>
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		<title>By: azrai</title>
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		<dc:creator>azrai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 07:53:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perdana V6. </description>
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		<title>By: Gong Kia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gong Kia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 03:06:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very nice, for a Hyundai. I&#039;m so happy to see the progession/improvement that Hyundai made to its cars. Sad to see our beloved Proton stuck at the same spot for decades....... </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very nice, for a Hyundai. I&#039;m so happy to see the progession/improvement that Hyundai made to its cars. Sad to see our beloved Proton stuck at the same spot for decades&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: noname</title>
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		<dc:creator>noname</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 01:32:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can the Perdana compare with this Hyundai Equus? Look at their TECHNOLOGY... this is wat we can called &#039;technology&#039;... i boring to see those who saying that &#039;proton punya technology&#039;... </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can the Perdana compare with this Hyundai Equus? Look at their TECHNOLOGY&#8230; this is wat we can called &#039;technology&#039;&#8230; i boring to see those who saying that &#039;proton punya technology&#039;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: informalaysia</title>
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		<dc:creator>informalaysia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Oct 2009 23:56:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>don&#039;t be funny guys.. how do you know koreans are loyal to hyundai n kia? 
 
i studied in the US and got three korean friends... two used honda and one more owns a subaru.. all three bought japanese brand la... 
 
haiyo, why they don&#039;t buy japanese cars in korea? because it&#039;s damn expensive just like here in msia! 
 
sigh.... 
 
and some still want to compare the young proton and the shipmaker hyundai? stop it already la ok... </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>don&#039;t be funny guys.. how do you know koreans are loyal to hyundai n kia?</p>
<p>i studied in the US and got three korean friends&#8230; two used honda and one more owns a subaru.. all three bought japanese brand la&#8230;</p>
<p>haiyo, why they don&#039;t buy japanese cars in korea? because it&#039;s damn expensive just like here in msia!</p>
<p>sigh&#8230;.</p>
<p>and some still want to compare the young proton and the shipmaker hyundai? stop it already la ok&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: reuben how</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/10/03/hyundai-equus-stretch-goes-on-sale-in-korea/#comment-264381</link>
		<dc:creator>reuben how</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Oct 2009 20:15:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t understand why there are Korean vs Malaysian Proton arguments. They are totally different. The workers are totally different. Hyundai is Hyundai because of a strong labour effort. Initially, by copying and using foreign technology, and then improving on design. In fact, Seoul is the World Design Capital of the year (for 2010). I don&#039;t think Malaysians have the same culture. Malaysian people do not have the same work ethic and cultural excellence as east asian societies such as Japanese and Koreans.They cannot make it on the global stage without these basic ingredients. Korean households can sort their household waste into six recycle bins. Can malaysians even be bothered to put their rubbish into rubbish bins? I think Proton is made by people a little bit more advanced than basic human beings. LG chose the wrong partner to build a car. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#039;t understand why there are Korean vs Malaysian Proton arguments. They are totally different. The workers are totally different. Hyundai is Hyundai because of a strong labour effort. Initially, by copying and using foreign technology, and then improving on design. In fact, Seoul is the World Design Capital of the year (for 2010). I don&#039;t think Malaysians have the same culture. Malaysian people do not have the same work ethic and cultural excellence as east asian societies such as Japanese and Koreans.They cannot make it on the global stage without these basic ingredients. Korean households can sort their household waste into six recycle bins. Can malaysians even be bothered to put their rubbish into rubbish bins? I think Proton is made by people a little bit more advanced than basic human beings. LG chose the wrong partner to build a car.</p>
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		<title>By: Lol</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/10/03/hyundai-equus-stretch-goes-on-sale-in-korea/#comment-264369</link>
		<dc:creator>Lol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Oct 2009 17:29:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If malaysian see Korean as competiotor, you will fail. They already as good as Japanese top auto maker toyota/honda. (Other small Japanese auto makers, nissan, mazuda, mitsubishi, suzuki&#8230;etc&#8230; are already &#039;inferior&#039; than Hyundai/Kia) 
 
Proton&#039;s worry is a Chinese. 
 
Chinese are comming! 
 
&quot;BYD has set its goal and intends to reach it. &quot;It&#039;s our company&#039;s long-term target to be China&#039;s No. 1 automaker by 2015 and to be the world&#039;s leading car maker by 2025,&quot; said Jasmine Huang, a senior marketing representative for BYD.&quot;  &lt;a href=&quot;http://rumors.automobilemag.com/6558283/green/chinese-automaker-byd-has-its-sights-set-on-toyota/index.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://rumors.automobilemag.com/6558283/green/chi...&lt;/a&gt;  
 
I 100% bet Proton crushed by Chinese.  
 
Save this article in your CD-Rom media, and see my comment after 20 years. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If malaysian see Korean as competiotor, you will fail. They already as good as Japanese top auto maker toyota/honda. (Other small Japanese auto makers, nissan, mazuda, mitsubishi, suzuki&hellip;etc&hellip; are already &#039;inferior&#039; than Hyundai/Kia)</p>
<p>Proton&#039;s worry is a Chinese.</p>
<p>Chinese are comming!</p>
<p>&quot;BYD has set its goal and intends to reach it. &quot;It&#039;s our company&#039;s long-term target to be China&#039;s No. 1 automaker by 2015 and to be the world&#039;s leading car maker by 2025,&quot; said Jasmine Huang, a senior marketing representative for BYD.&quot;<br />
  <a href="http://rumors.automobilemag.com/6558283/green/chinese-automaker-byd-has-its-sights-set-on-toyota/index.html" rel="nofollow">http://rumors.automobilemag.com/6558283/green/chi&#8230;</a>  </p>
<p>I 100% bet Proton crushed by Chinese. </p>
<p>Save this article in your CD-Rom media, and see my comment after 20 years.</p>
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		<title>By: e</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/10/03/hyundai-equus-stretch-goes-on-sale-in-korea/#comment-264367</link>
		<dc:creator>e</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Oct 2009 17:19:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> &lt;a href=&quot;http://wardsauto.com/reports/2009/tenbest/best_engines_2009_081205/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://wardsauto.com/reports/2009/tenbest/best_en...&lt;/a&gt;  
 
The Ward&#8217;s 10 Best Engines for 2009  
 
    * Audi AG: 2.0L TFSI turbocharged DOHC I-4 (A4 Avant) 
    * BMW AG: 3.0L turbocharged DOHC I-6 (135i Coupe) 
    * BMW AG: 3.0L DOHC I-6 Turbodiesel (335d) 
    * Chrysler LLC: 5.7L Hemi OHV V-8 (Dodge Ram/Challenger R/T) 
    * Ford Motor Co.: 2.5L DOHC I-4 HEV (Escape Hybrid) 
    * General Motors Corp.: 3.6L DOHC V-6 (Cadillac CTS) 
    * Honda Motor Co. Ltd.: 3.5L SOHC V-6 (Accord Coupe) 
    * Hyundai Motor Co. Ltd.: 4.6L DOHC V-8 (Genesis) 
    * Toyota Motor Corp.: 3.5L DOHC V-6 (Lexus IS 350) 
    * Volkswagen AG: 2.0L SOHC I-4 Turbodiesel (Jetta TDI)  
 
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Hyundai engine listed as world 10 best engine. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://wardsauto.com/reports/2009/tenbest/best_engines_2009_081205/" rel="nofollow">http://wardsauto.com/reports/2009/tenbest/best_en&#8230;</a>  </p>
<p>The Ward&rsquo;s 10 Best Engines for 2009 </p>
<p>    * Audi AG: 2.0L TFSI turbocharged DOHC I-4 (A4 Avant)</p>
<p>    * BMW AG: 3.0L turbocharged DOHC I-6 (135i Coupe)</p>
<p>    * BMW AG: 3.0L DOHC I-6 Turbodiesel (335d)</p>
<p>    * Chrysler LLC: 5.7L Hemi OHV V-8 (Dodge Ram/Challenger R/T)</p>
<p>    * Ford Motor Co.: 2.5L DOHC I-4 HEV (Escape Hybrid)</p>
<p>    * General Motors Corp.: 3.6L DOHC V-6 (Cadillac CTS)</p>
<p>    * Honda Motor Co. Ltd.: 3.5L SOHC V-6 (Accord Coupe)</p>
<p>    * Hyundai Motor Co. Ltd.: 4.6L DOHC V-8 (Genesis)</p>
<p>    * Toyota Motor Corp.: 3.5L DOHC V-6 (Lexus IS 350)</p>
<p>    * Volkswagen AG: 2.0L SOHC I-4 Turbodiesel (Jetta TDI) </p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>Hyundai engine listed as world 10 best engine.</p>
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		<title>By: Prokia</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/10/03/hyundai-equus-stretch-goes-on-sale-in-korea/#comment-264358</link>
		<dc:creator>Prokia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Oct 2009 16:40:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bmpower = big sohai stupid ass-hole. 
 
Hyundai engine is faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar much much more sophisticated and advanced in terms of engineering. 5.0 &amp; 4.6 V8, 3.8 &amp; 3.3 V6, turbocharged 2.0L, 2.2L Diesel, 2.4L direct injection, et cetera just to name a few. 
 
1.6L Campro TURBO? so what dude. workshop bawah pokok cherry also can do that la, in fact i was once in a team of bolt on campro project. This bloody engine is so not reliable, boost longer and the bearings gave away. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bmpower = big sohai stupid ass-hole.</p>
<p>Hyundai engine is faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar much much more sophisticated and advanced in terms of engineering. 5.0 &amp; 4.6 V8, 3.8 &amp; 3.3 V6, turbocharged 2.0L, 2.2L Diesel, 2.4L direct injection, et cetera just to name a few.</p>
<p>1.6L Campro TURBO? so what dude. workshop bawah pokok cherry also can do that la, in fact i was once in a team of bolt on campro project. This bloody engine is so not reliable, boost longer and the bearings gave away.</p>
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		<title>By: MADBOY</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/10/03/hyundai-equus-stretch-goes-on-sale-in-korea/#comment-264354</link>
		<dc:creator>MADBOY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Oct 2009 16:33:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem for proton is it was created for a national agenda. To help Malaysia to become a developed nation. As such, it must &quot;help&#039; the local companies, hence most of the part came from local vendor. Once upon a time when Proton was strong, the vendors took advantage - low quality but higher price, Proton paid for the overprice part becouse it can &amp; people still buying its cars. Then Proton having a lot of quality problems &amp; people don&#039;t buy its cars as it used to.  
 
Korean has no such  agenda (at least not the way Malaysia has). The car industry was developed by private enterprise where the motive is simple - to max profit. The Korean has no restriction to get oversea vendor as long at the price &amp; quality is right. They also can terminate any vendor service if quality is compromised.  
 
Here, Proton is stuck with the same vendor who supplied sub-standard over and over again becouse of national policy to help local vendor. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem for proton is it was created for a national agenda. To help Malaysia to become a developed nation. As such, it must &quot;help&#039; the local companies, hence most of the part came from local vendor. Once upon a time when Proton was strong, the vendors took advantage &#8211; low quality but higher price, Proton paid for the overprice part becouse it can &amp; people still buying its cars. Then Proton having a lot of quality problems &amp; people don&#039;t buy its cars as it used to. </p>
<p>Korean has no such  agenda (at least not the way Malaysia has). The car industry was developed by private enterprise where the motive is simple &#8211; to max profit. The Korean has no restriction to get oversea vendor as long at the price &amp; quality is right. They also can terminate any vendor service if quality is compromised. </p>
<p>Here, Proton is stuck with the same vendor who supplied sub-standard over and over again becouse of national policy to help local vendor.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/10/03/hyundai-equus-stretch-goes-on-sale-in-korea/#comment-264352</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Oct 2009 15:59:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m using Proton Persona. You don&#039;t know how much I care my lovely car. 
 
But, when I park beside Perdana, how much I feel my car is far far  more high-tech than P. Just like you parked Wira beside Saga from 80&#039;s. Yeah I know P is an executive car and my car just an ordinary sedan. But that&#039;s what I feel in my heart. 
 
The car already more than ten years in the market but Proton still didn&#039;t replace the car. Federal Gomen also want to buy Merc with 80mil contract per year. More and more state Gomen change their old Perdana. I feel sad about this. 
 
Don&#039;t blame Korean for their new Hyundai Equus. Change our Perdana first then you can dance on the same floor. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;m using Proton Persona. You don&#039;t know how much I care my lovely car.</p>
<p>But, when I park beside Perdana, how much I feel my car is far far  more high-tech than P. Just like you parked Wira beside Saga from 80&#039;s. Yeah I know P is an executive car and my car just an ordinary sedan. But that&#039;s what I feel in my heart.</p>
<p>The car already more than ten years in the market but Proton still didn&#039;t replace the car. Federal Gomen also want to buy Merc with 80mil contract per year. More and more state Gomen change their old Perdana. I feel sad about this.</p>
<p>Don&#039;t blame Korean for their new Hyundai Equus. Change our Perdana first then you can dance on the same floor.</p>
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		<title>By: mystvearn</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/10/03/hyundai-equus-stretch-goes-on-sale-in-korea/#comment-264348</link>
		<dc:creator>mystvearn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Oct 2009 15:50:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This thing will sell well in China with all their elongated preference. </description>
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		<title>By: Lol</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/10/03/hyundai-equus-stretch-goes-on-sale-in-korea/#comment-264342</link>
		<dc:creator>Lol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Oct 2009 15:38:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m 100% sure Proton must worry to China auto maker. (Like Geely, BYD) 
 
Proton&#039;s actual competiotor is not Korean, It is a Chinese. 
 
If malaysian see Korean as competiotor, you will fail. They already as good as Japanese top auto maker toyota/honda. (Other small Japanese auto maker, nissan, mazuda, mitsubishi, suzuki...etc... are already inferior than Hyundai/Kia) 
 
I am 100% bet, if proton fall in bankrupt, it caused by &#039;Chinese&#039; auto maker. 
 
Chinese want Malaysia-China FTA, after that, &#039;Made in China&#039; stuffs will dominate in Malaysia. Who buy a proton? Malysian will enjoy Chinese Geely who buy a Volvo technology. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;m 100% sure Proton must worry to China auto maker. (Like Geely, BYD)</p>
<p>Proton&#039;s actual competiotor is not Korean, It is a Chinese.</p>
<p>If malaysian see Korean as competiotor, you will fail. They already as good as Japanese top auto maker toyota/honda. (Other small Japanese auto maker, nissan, mazuda, mitsubishi, suzuki&#8230;etc&#8230; are already inferior than Hyundai/Kia)</p>
<p>I am 100% bet, if proton fall in bankrupt, it caused by &#039;Chinese&#039; auto maker.</p>
<p>Chinese want Malaysia-China FTA, after that, &#039;Made in China&#039; stuffs will dominate in Malaysia. Who buy a proton? Malysian will enjoy Chinese Geely who buy a Volvo technology.</p>
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		<title>By: Lol</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Oct 2009 15:29:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hyundai construction company found in 1947.  &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyundai&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyundai&lt;/a&gt;  
 
Hyundai motor company found in 1967.  &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyundai_Motor_Company&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyundai_Motor_Compan...&lt;/a&gt; </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hyundai construction company found in 1947.<br />
  <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyundai" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyundai</a>  </p>
<p>Hyundai motor company found in 1967.<br />
  <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyundai_Motor_Company" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyundai_Motor_Compan&#8230;</a></p>
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		<title>By: Lol</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Oct 2009 15:16:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hyundai Motor found in 1967. not 1947. 
 
And to alI the idiots saying that the Koreans are protected marker... 
Unlike malaysia, Korean car import tax is only 8%. and their no.1 and no.2 foreign best sellers are Lexus and Honda. 
 
World most closed protected market is Japan.(not Korea) </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hyundai Motor found in 1967. not 1947.</p>
<p>And to alI the idiots saying that the Koreans are protected marker&#8230;</p>
<p>Unlike malaysia, Korean car import tax is only 8%. and their no.1 and no.2 foreign best sellers are Lexus and Honda.</p>
<p>World most closed protected market is Japan.(not Korea)</p>
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