id be happier to have inline-4 in the FT86. easier to tune. and the boxer sound should really stay with subaru. it doesnt fit the FT86 design, although the design is rejected now :/

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With designs only for functionalities along with Helical LSD, high revolution mills, track-like suspensions, strengthen chassis, Type Rs ARE in fact track cars that have evolved into street machines. Having track setup inheritances, its not exactly everyone's favorite daily driven car.

Obviously, engines give their best performance at peak and being track cars, an ideal engine should rev quickly to its peak. Track cars of course must be able to pull out from a corner fast too, hence, the reason for close-ratio box. Being close-ratio, it shortens the shift timing and allows the engine to rev faster but in the same these gears must be able to transfer the engine's output efficiently.

Back to torque talk, if not mistaken, a K20A in a DC5 is capable of producing a little above 200Nm at around 7k rpm and 220PS at 8k rpm. The relationship between the torque and horsepower is quite 'healthy'. Don't forget a K20A is packed with valvetrain wizardry. Even being tailgated, I rarely need downshifts or engaging Vtec just to prove its worthiness being a Type R. Weak torque, you say? Don't say being tailgated by another Type R or more powerful cars la.

Boxer engine in 86? Can't wait to see and hear one on road or in a drift scene.

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October 11, 2009 @ 1:51 pm

who cares it is a c3 b4 d24 ,

integra/civic type r 220+- hp still pawns.

so dis make a 160hp?

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DC5 and FD2 has horrible torque and you have to rev it like hell to be able to extract every available juice from it.

yes it's fun on the track but not very sensible for everyday driving.

this FT86 on the other hand has a much lower center of gravity, probably better torque distribution and the advantage of being RWD.

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October 9, 2009 @ 3:00 pm

kecoh la lu torque. dia olang bikin manly2 pun lu bukan ada duit mau beli mah!

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Gua kecoh2 lu apsal?!! Tak puas ati ka? Ni forum la, tempat org2 bg pendapat. Memang la gua tak kaya giler nak tangkap Ferrari ke, Porsche ke, GTR R35 ke…tapi kalau Toyota betul2 akan keluarkan pengganti Hachiroku ni nanti dpt la gua trade in Celica gua sekrg…gua ckp sbb gua tau…lu? Btw, gua rasa lu ni kes jeles bila org lain pakai keta bagus dr lu…

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integra/civic type r 220+- hp still pawns.

so dis make a 160hp?"

@whocares,

The FT-86's 2.0 liter boxer engine is estimated to produce between 160hp – 200hp.

The non-direct injection naturally aspirated 2.0 liter boxer with variable valve control of the previous gen JDMLegacy 2.0R produces 190PS.

Its also smaller and probably lighter than the Integra (which is already out of production).

And unlike the FWD Integra, this is RWD.

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integra/civic type r 220+- hp still pawns.

so dis make a 160hp?

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But it'll be tough to beat a FSI that has blower, turbo and Direct Injection on a Scirocco.

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@l3ryan

Not just a rebadged 2.0 boxer, it will have direct injection.

The previous generation Legacy 2.0R (export market)

2.0 DOHC, 16-valves

Power: 165PS @ 6800 rpm

Torque: 187Nm @ 3200 rpm

The previous generation JDM Legacy 2.0R

Engine: 2.0 DOHC, 16-valves AVCS (Active Valve Control System)

Power: 190PS @ 7100 rpm

Torque: 196Nm @ 4400 rpm

I'm hoping the FT-86's Boxer with D-4S will produce as much or more power than the previous generation JDM Legacy 2.0R.

New naturally aspirated 2.0 liter Subaru models seems to make less power now (140PS-150PS), probably to improve on fuel economy and lower the emission levels.

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and i sure do they make it as fun as the original car was like above mentioned.

most important thing when it comes here is price though.

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October 9, 2009 @ 1:24 pm

hm..sori noob here. what are the advantage(s) of having boxer engine rather than conventional one?

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most obvious advantage would be a much lower center of gravity due to the engine being flat in design conpared to the usual in-line or V engines.

more low RPM torque is another advantage compared to conventional engines.

then there is the characteristic boxer engine burble sound which makes sexy bassy noise

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- Low kerb weight

- Reasonable power@torque to weight ratio

- Simple gadget free environment

- Direct handling response including the steering

I'm sure it'll do well

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