credit where credit due…

the fella might not finish school yet and dreaming on to drive a ferrari at viva's price in msia…

go back and finish ur school!

calling people stupid is not a good attitude, 1 finger for other, 10 finger back to you.

ADJECTIVE:

1. Lacking education or knowledge.

2. Showing or arising from a lack of education or knowledge: an ignorant

mistake.

3. Unaware or uninformed.

*now pick your choice amongst the best 3 explanations above.

Even if the Proton cars crumble in front of you, you will still say its okay. Ahh! Typical blind-arse-supporter. Stupidity at its best!

Nice reading. The documents.

*except some stupid comments above.

October 27, 2009 @ 5:35 pm

SY0H said,

October 27, 2009 @ 4:44 pm

Owh please, now you’re CONTRADICTING with your very own statement. Anything that Lotus invents will eventually get its way to Proton too. Theoretically this is supposed to be a good thing to Proton Car owners but in reality, non of this technology will reach its full potential as Proton’s infamous QC/QA/Crony will surely spoil it for good. You’re not tired of reading comments, perhaps the word “ignorant” is suitable for you. I rest my case

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whatever….you think all lotus technology suitable for mass production. yeah ignorant. Maybe we should have proton sports car with waja pricetag. in your dream. you are …….

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lotus tech going to proton? absolutely, the chassis tuning, campro engine with cps… but not all are feasible as opaque say…

are the QA should be the only one to be blamed? vendors? you think la, everything need economic of scale to be feasible la…

think la SYOH, think… use ur brain more than now… comment like farts sum more… nothing good, only smelly…

October 27, 2009 @ 4:44 pm

Owh please, now you’re CONTRADICTING with your very own statement. Anything that Lotus invents will eventually get its way to Proton too. Theoretically this is supposed to be a good thing to Proton Car owners but in reality, non of this technology will reach its full potential as Proton’s infamous QC/QA/Crony will surely spoil it for good. You’re not tired of reading comments, perhaps the word “ignorant” is suitable for you. I rest my case

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whatever….you think all lotus technology suitable for mass production. yeah ignorant. Maybe we should have proton sports car with waja pricetag. in your dream. you are …….

btw, most or 95% of PROTON quality problems are related to equipments or parts… not the chassis or platform… get your fact right…

opaque said,

"When any topic comes out that’s not related to proton, sure someone will try to drag into it."

Owh please, now you're CONTRADICTING with your very own statement. Anything that Lotus invents will eventually get its way to Proton too. Theoretically this is supposed to be a good thing to Proton Car owners but in reality, non of this technology will reach its full potential as Proton's infamous QC/QA/Crony will surely spoil it for good. You're not tired of reading comments, perhaps the word "ignorant" is suitable for you. I rest my case!

October 27, 2009 @ 10:00 am

I read abt the negative profit too. But considering that they were developing Evora and now delivering it to the mass. It's likely the reason behind the red ink in the book. Yes? No? Otw, why are they hiring while Toyot and GM laying off ppl? Just 2 my cents oni.

Plus rumors has it that the new Esprit is coming. Anyone can confirm that?

On the VVA, it looks like a great tech!

(but heck i'm not a chasis/structural engineer thus i can't measure the greatness of it. hahaha..)

October 27, 2009 @ 9:29 am

Hello brother, Lotus does not mass produce its cars. It is a niche car manufacturer. Elise is not a car for the mass market, it is a niche sport car (a pure uncompromised sport car only for few people who really want it).

This VVA platform is for low volume car manucfacturing. It will cut the development cost in term of money & time for the car manufacturers

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Malaysian parent company invests heavily to keep elite British marque on the road.Lotus, the historic British marque reversed from a £2m after-tax profit to a £14.6m loss in the year to March, according to the car manufacturer's latest accounts.

..if Lotus themselves making loss

how are they gonna cut dev money & time for other manufacturers?

Maybe its time Lotus sit down with DSZ and review their business module and direction.

October 26, 2009 @ 11:14 pm

I hope Lotus DO NOT sale this expensive concept to Proton (althought they’re partners). Proton very “well known” QC and QA will surely spoil it! Thank you very much to “ariff” (said, October 26, 2009 @ 1:47 pm) for your insight story on Proton plastic parts. I’m afraid it doesn’t stop there. How about the transmission system? How about the suspensions? How about the battery? And the list just goes on.

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errr….thought proton own lotus. Then why they need to buy from lotus. When any topic comes out that's not related to proton, sure someone will try to drag into it. Tired of reading these comment. Try to write something that is useful and constuctive

October 27, 2009 @ 7:55 am

Macam bagus, wonder why current elise not massively produce?

What I know is Lotus tech is not mend for mass pro…

Rivet and glue tech not suitable for high speed production…

Waaaa Lotus go and do your homework laaaa

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Hello brother, Lotus does not mass produce its cars. It is a niche car manufacturer. Elise is not a car for the mass market, it is a niche sport car (a pure uncompromised sport car only for few people who really want it).

This VVA platform is for low volume car manucfacturing. It will cut the development cost in term of money & time for the car manufacturers.

What I know is Lotus tech is not mend for mass pro…

Rivet and glue tech not suitable for high speed production…

Waaaa Lotus go and do your homework laaaa

Lot

Of

Trouble

Usually

Serious

Don't think that Toyota or Audi is making any money with their Lexus LXF or R8. Even with the super high price they won't get back the development costs. They use this supercars to strenghten their brand name like in advertisement. Lotus on the other have to make money with their sport cars, as it's their only product.

Not quite sure if APX would make sense for the mass producer Proton ?

proton, too, have to use barangan buatan malaysia… support local vendors, supplier etc, to achieve tax reduction… wat if there's no such thing, i think proton had moved forward getting the best quality from outside vendors, from rayong, thailand, particularly…

what to do? the current govmt still making it impossible…

I'm a dissatisfy Proton Persona owner and the car is falling apart bit by bit since I bought it last February 2009. Mileage still below 11k but its components are failing rapidly as if the car has been driver through hell of 100k! Rather than blaming it to the previous CEO of Proton (which is true also), I guess the new guy on the helm is still not doing his work properly too. Rakyat's money are in stake here gentlemen, and every now and then I'm listening to talks on "belilah barangan buatan Malaysia", is not that we are really eager to buy local degraded products, we Rakyat are forced to buy these fail products! We will let them know in the next election!

commentors, please stick to the topic about lotus and VVA… one such application is used in EXORA… EXORA will spawn many other like pick-up, mid-size sedan with multilink rear suspension and persona replacement…

that's VVA, athough might not use extruded aluminium cos of economically not feasible?

commentors, (not all), do u knw about feasibility? efficiency and engineering for god's sake?

don't comment like farts, its irritating… think la weyyy…

priviledged one to enjoy this technology advancement rather than

selling this idea to others.

Maybe its time proton throw out the current Swiss & run it themselves

if it plans to go big and global.Malaysia boleh-kan?!!

this takes it further ah, can have sports car, suv crossover, sedan is possible too. maybe even an suv.

compared to most platform sharing that goes either 2 body variants, this is quite a good buy.

is it true Waja & Gen2 & Exora use the same chasis with minor mod.?

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continuation for the above ranting.

Proton (probably the G asks them to do so) only make their plastic parts from plastic manufacturer in Malaysia (Malaysian owned). But if Malaysian manufacturer do half-wit job like this, better ask Proton to sub its parts somewhere else and give no business to Malaysian plastic manufacturer & no pay also to its worker making Malaysian plastic engineer to go jobless.

see.

that's why Proton made their plastic parts locally, to give jobs to Malaysian. Management must think about quality also. Not hiring banglas to clean 'parting line' (the line embeded to the plastic parts where the moulds meet). Parting line should be fine enough that it's invisible, not sticking out 5mm and need to hire bangla with box cutters to clean the parting line caused by those sub.par. China moulds, haizz

plus new turbo phoenix engine? +DSG? ?

and sell for 80k muhahahahhaha!

LOL !

October 26, 2009 @ 1:47 pm

'Proton were given a sample of the product made by Japanese made moulds, they were great, then the manufacturer got the ‘go ahead’ to produce the plastic parts for Proton.

However, real production line use China’s sub.par. moulds'

I simply cannot believe that Proton will accept this. Namely, if Dr Wolfgang Karl Eppel, the one who once worked for BMW, is still 'Director of Quality' at Proton…

Sorry about this Proton, but you said in 2000 or was it 1997 or somewhere there, that we will get a Proton sports car RM150k called P002 or something like that.

The only evidence I see so far is a model PM5, even that is in glass.