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	<title>Comments on: Juicy details about Proton&#8217;s future plans revealed</title>
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		<title>By: rudy</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/11/03/juicy-details-about-protons-future-plans-revealed/#comment-278998</link>
		<dc:creator>rudy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 01:59:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NAZA sucks!! </description>
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		<title>By: KIA FORTE open for b</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/11/03/juicy-details-about-protons-future-plans-revealed/#comment-273460</link>
		<dc:creator>KIA FORTE open for b</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 03:35:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>:) Kami adalah syarikat NAZA KIA dari cawangan KLANG &amp; cawangan KEPONG yang buka 365 hari 9am-9pm setiap hari. 
Senang untuk anda melawat KIA pada bila-bila masa selepas waktu kerja mahupun pada hari Ahad &amp; public holiday! Kami adalah SPECIAL OUTLET! 
 
Informasi:&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.. :)  
NAZA FORTE ini akan launch pada 24 November 2009. :) TENGOK &amp; PERCAYA! 
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SUPER Fuel Efficient&#8230;tested 1litre/11km iaitu 0.16sen untuk 1 km. 
Harga OTR rm75,xxx. 
 
Open for booking now! We are the only SPECIAL OUTLET in Malaysia which&#8230; 
OPEN 365 days 9am-9pm daily! 
 
Pls come &amp; visit us at: 
No.48 &amp; 50, Lorong Batu Nilam 4B, 
Bandar Bukit Tinggi, 
41200 Klang. 
Hotline:03-3323 9948 (3 lines) 
 
No.69 &amp; 71, Jalan Rimbunan Raya 1, 
Laman Rimbunan, Kepong, 
52100 Kuala Lumpur 
Hotline: 03-6252 9868 (2 lines) 
 
ANY ENQUIRY pls call us. Happy to serve u. tq   
or view at YOUTUBE :) searching &quot;KIA CERATO FORTE&quot; :) </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> <img src='http://paultan.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  Kami adalah syarikat NAZA KIA dari cawangan KLANG &amp; cawangan KEPONG yang buka 365 hari 9am-9pm setiap hari.</p>
<p>Senang untuk anda melawat KIA pada bila-bila masa selepas waktu kerja mahupun pada hari Ahad &amp; public holiday! Kami adalah SPECIAL OUTLET!</p>
<p>Informasi:&hellip;&hellip;&hellip;&hellip;.. <img src='http://paultan.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>NAZA FORTE ini akan launch pada 24 November 2009. <img src='http://paultan.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  TENGOK &amp; PERCAYA!</p>
<p>1.6cc AUTOMATIC SHIFTRONIC GEAR!(teknologi 2 dalam 1&hellip;boleh pakai auto ataupun manual digital)</p>
<p>SUPER Fuel Efficient&hellip;tested 1litre/11km iaitu 0.16sen untuk 1 km.</p>
<p>Harga OTR rm75,xxx.</p>
<p>Open for booking now! We are the only SPECIAL OUTLET in Malaysia which&hellip;</p>
<p>OPEN 365 days 9am-9pm daily!</p>
<p>Pls come &amp; visit us at:</p>
<p>No.48 &amp; 50, Lorong Batu Nilam 4B,</p>
<p>Bandar Bukit Tinggi,</p>
<p>41200 Klang.</p>
<p>Hotline:03-3323 9948 (3 lines)</p>
<p>No.69 &amp; 71, Jalan Rimbunan Raya 1,</p>
<p>Laman Rimbunan, Kepong,</p>
<p>52100 Kuala Lumpur</p>
<p>Hotline: 03-6252 9868 (2 lines)</p>
<p>ANY ENQUIRY pls call us. Happy to serve u. tq  </p>
<p>or view at YOUTUBE <img src='http://paultan.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  searching &quot;KIA CERATO FORTE&quot; <img src='http://paultan.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: persona_Gen25610</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/11/03/juicy-details-about-protons-future-plans-revealed/#comment-272876</link>
		<dc:creator>persona_Gen25610</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 14:58:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i agreed with u MICHAEL </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i agreed with u MICHAEL</p>
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		<title>By: lan</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/11/03/juicy-details-about-protons-future-plans-revealed/#comment-272820</link>
		<dc:creator>lan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 12:17:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>autojohndoe said, 
November 8, 2009 @ 12:09 pm  
 
Some people see that car at UK la, Thailand la etc etc other than malaysia is very cheap&#8230; 
 
So&#8230; it simple isnt it&#8230; just go there and buy the car&#8230; if still wanna stay in malaysia, go to Langkawi or Labuan&#8230; 
 
Be grateful of what u have rather than wishing for what u cant have&#8230; 
 
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The RRP in Langkawi and Labuan aint that cheap too. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>autojohndoe said,</p>
<p>November 8, 2009 @ 12:09 pm </p>
<p>Some people see that car at UK la, Thailand la etc etc other than malaysia is very cheap&hellip;</p>
<p>So&hellip; it simple isnt it&hellip; just go there and buy the car&hellip; if still wanna stay in malaysia, go to Langkawi or Labuan&hellip;</p>
<p>Be grateful of what u have rather than wishing for what u cant have&hellip;</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-</p>
<p>The RRP in Langkawi and Labuan aint that cheap too.</p>
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		<title>By: lan</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/11/03/juicy-details-about-protons-future-plans-revealed/#comment-272819</link>
		<dc:creator>lan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 12:15:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Noble Proton Bashers said 
 
Ian, i guess you are one of the stupid ones who went to england and studied and stupidly came back to malaysia cause you miss Nasi Lemak 
 
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 whats with thinking people in UK earning tons more. If you want to think that way, then go ahead. I have facts, I have figures, and all you have is your lousy mentality and half baked brain.  
 
 
nope. it was kuey teow actually. not too fond of nasi lemak. oh well, whats the point of arguing here. most people like yourself just cant articulate an argument. arguing with stupidity is just tiring. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Noble Proton Bashers said</p>
<p>Ian, i guess you are one of the stupid ones who went to england and studied and stupidly came back to malaysia cause you miss Nasi Lemak</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-</p>
<p> whats with thinking people in UK earning tons more. If you want to think that way, then go ahead. I have facts, I have figures, and all you have is your lousy mentality and half baked brain. </p>
<p>nope. it was kuey teow actually. not too fond of nasi lemak. oh well, whats the point of arguing here. most people like yourself just cant articulate an argument. arguing with stupidity is just tiring.</p>
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		<title>By: autojohndoe</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/11/03/juicy-details-about-protons-future-plans-revealed/#comment-272634</link>
		<dc:creator>autojohndoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 12:09:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some people see that car at UK la, Thailand la etc etc other than malaysia is very cheap... 
 
So... it simple isnt it... just go there and buy the car... if still wanna stay in malaysia, go to Langkawi or Labuan... 
 
Be grateful of what u have rather than wishing for what u cant have... </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some people see that car at UK la, Thailand la etc etc other than malaysia is very cheap&#8230; </p>
<p>So&#8230; it simple isnt it&#8230; just go there and buy the car&#8230; if still wanna stay in malaysia, go to Langkawi or Labuan&#8230; </p>
<p>Be grateful of what u have rather than wishing for what u cant have&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Mazda 3 MPS</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/11/03/juicy-details-about-protons-future-plans-revealed/#comment-272222</link>
		<dc:creator>Mazda 3 MPS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 15:30:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>paultan betul lol </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>paultan betul lol</p>
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		<title>By: farghmee</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/11/03/juicy-details-about-protons-future-plans-revealed/#comment-272140</link>
		<dc:creator>farghmee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 09:29:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@mazda 3 mps, 
ape, miros salah? 
then sapa yg betul? ko? 
 
@all, 
pk2 kn la  :P </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@mazda 3 mps,</p>
<p>ape, miros salah?</p>
<p>then sapa yg betul? ko?</p>
<p>@all,</p>
<p>pk2 kn la  <img src='http://paultan.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: xenonchrist</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/11/03/juicy-details-about-protons-future-plans-revealed/#comment-272110</link>
		<dc:creator>xenonchrist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 03:04:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i support proton , anyway they created their own car , rather than rebadge cars , 
and now they take in toyota guy as their md . 
both also crap la ,one just sell and another rebadge cars and sell. 
 
anyway proton car better than all boxes the perodua take in . </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i support proton , anyway they created their own car , rather than rebadge cars ,</p>
<p>and now they take in toyota guy as their md .</p>
<p>both also crap la ,one just sell and another rebadge cars and sell.</p>
<p>anyway proton car better than all boxes the perodua take in .</p>
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		<title>By: Mazda 3 MPS</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/11/03/juicy-details-about-protons-future-plans-revealed/#comment-272059</link>
		<dc:creator>Mazda 3 MPS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 22:57:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MIROS punya salah </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MIROS punya salah</p>
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		<title>By: MAT</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/11/03/juicy-details-about-protons-future-plans-revealed/#comment-271888</link>
		<dc:creator>MAT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 11:45:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SESAPA NAK CARI CRASH TEST PROTON, CHECK RESULT YG MIROS BUAT, MyVAP. 4 STAR UTK EXORA. DAH LAMA DAH DIAORANG TEST. ORG YG TANYA TU TAK ALERT LANGSUNG. NAMPAK SANGAT BLIND BASHER. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SESAPA NAK CARI CRASH TEST PROTON, CHECK RESULT YG MIROS BUAT, MyVAP. 4 STAR UTK EXORA. DAH LAMA DAH DIAORANG TEST. ORG YG TANYA TU TAK ALERT LANGSUNG. NAMPAK SANGAT BLIND BASHER.</p>
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		<title>By: The Noble Proton Bas</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/11/03/juicy-details-about-protons-future-plans-revealed/#comment-271864</link>
		<dc:creator>The Noble Proton Bas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 10:09:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ian, i guess you are one of the stupid ones who went to england and studied and stupidly came back to malaysia cause you miss Nasi Lemak. 
 
I luv Malaysia. There you said it. Junior. There&#039;s a thing called promotion if you work hard. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ian, i guess you are one of the stupid ones who went to england and studied and stupidly came back to malaysia cause you miss Nasi Lemak.</p>
<p>I luv Malaysia. There you said it. Junior. There&#039;s a thing called promotion if you work hard.</p>
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		<title>By: Voon</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/11/03/juicy-details-about-protons-future-plans-revealed/#comment-271791</link>
		<dc:creator>Voon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 00:57:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ian, 
 
My friend hold the same type of job as i am, he is driving a C class there and i drive wira.....he is earning about 36k GBP per year there. 
 
Mazda 3 MPS, 
 
what ??!! ur friend must be selling his ars at Barclays Bank. That salary not enough to repair his ars too.... </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ian,</p>
<p>My friend hold the same type of job as i am, he is driving a C class there and i drive wira&#8230;..he is earning about 36k GBP per year there.</p>
<p>Mazda 3 MPS,</p>
<p>what ??!! ur friend must be selling his ars at Barclays Bank. That salary not enough to repair his ars too&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: lan</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/11/03/juicy-details-about-protons-future-plans-revealed/#comment-271782</link>
		<dc:creator>lan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 23:48:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mazda 3 MPS, check the salary scales, no staff at the banks front desk earns 100k a year. dont argue just for the sake of arguing, youre only making yourself look stupid 
 
initial R, I agree with you. We have to wake up and realise that this is not a rich country. Dont compare with S&#039;pore, try and compare with Thailand. Arent car prices there damn expensive too? 
 
The way I see it, Proton needs to improve as well. I wont back them up if they do a terrible job, but i know for a fact that theyre trying their best. give them encouragement guys. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mazda 3 MPS, check the salary scales, no staff at the banks front desk earns 100k a year. dont argue just for the sake of arguing, youre only making yourself look stupid</p>
<p>initial R, I agree with you. We have to wake up and realise that this is not a rich country. Dont compare with S&#039;pore, try and compare with Thailand. Arent car prices there damn expensive too?</p>
<p>The way I see it, Proton needs to improve as well. I wont back them up if they do a terrible job, but i know for a fact that theyre trying their best. give them encouragement guys.</p>
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		<title>By: jazzer</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/11/03/juicy-details-about-protons-future-plans-revealed/#comment-271763</link>
		<dc:creator>jazzer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 22:49:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>korg komen biarlah berpada sikit..down r org yg keje kt proton tu..korg sometimes yg bashing tu even x pernah drive proton punye new model such saga,persona,ngan exora.test drive dulu..then br korg tau p1 de improvmnt ke x..actlly,a lot of imprvmt has been done and even i dare to say that they are on par with hyundai and toyota..only the engine distinguish them..but the rest,it is a worth to buy proton than city,vios..org keje susah2,korg senang je kutuk.. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>korg komen biarlah berpada sikit..down r org yg keje kt proton tu..korg sometimes yg bashing tu even x pernah drive proton punye new model such saga,persona,ngan exora.test drive dulu..then br korg tau p1 de improvmnt ke x..actlly,a lot of imprvmt has been done and even i dare to say that they are on par with hyundai and toyota..only the engine distinguish them..but the rest,it is a worth to buy proton than city,vios..org keje susah2,korg senang je kutuk..</p>
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		<title>By: ultimate</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/11/03/juicy-details-about-protons-future-plans-revealed/#comment-271725</link>
		<dc:creator>ultimate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 21:10:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nothing juicy ..in fact same old crap 
As long as no merger P1 will not progress. 
Get rid of the deadwood !! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nothing juicy ..in fact same old crap</p>
<p>As long as no merger P1 will not progress.</p>
<p>Get rid of the deadwood !!</p>
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		<title>By: Mazda 3 MPS</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/11/03/juicy-details-about-protons-future-plans-revealed/#comment-271716</link>
		<dc:creator>Mazda 3 MPS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 20:18:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I luv Malaysia said, 
 
November 4, 2009 @ 4:36 pm 
 
Mazda 3 MPS said, 
 
November 4, 2009 @ 3:46 pm 
 
haha your friend is poor&#8230;.my friend who works in the front counter at Barclays Bank earn 100000GBP 
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211; 
the intent doctors there juz can get roughly 40k GBP a year.. 
your frenz must be a a high class prostitute.hahaha&#8230;stupid 
-------------------------------------------- 
 
very funny, than your friend must be a stupid doctor </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I luv Malaysia said,</p>
<p>November 4, 2009 @ 4:36 pm</p>
<p>Mazda 3 MPS said,</p>
<p>November 4, 2009 @ 3:46 pm</p>
<p>haha your friend is poor&hellip;.my friend who works in the front counter at Barclays Bank earn 100000GBP</p>
<p>&mdash;&mdash;&mdash;&mdash;&mdash;&mdash;&mdash;&mdash;&mdash;&mdash;&mdash;&mdash;&mdash;&mdash;&mdash;&mdash;&mdash;&mdash;&mdash;&mdash;&ndash;</p>
<p>the intent doctors there juz can get roughly 40k GBP a year..</p>
<p>your frenz must be a a high class prostitute.hahaha&hellip;stupid</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>very funny, than your friend must be a stupid doctor</p>
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		<title>By: initial R</title>
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		<dc:creator>initial R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 19:33:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Still Malaysian blame G for high price imported car.... Please, wake up. your brain full negative estasy. If Malaysian work hard as Japs or work smart like all europe ppl, so all can get big pay for quality working result. Ini siang malam mimpi nak pakai kereta mewah, kerja malas. Tau ujung bulan jumpa rimau mintak duit. Huh.... Malaysian Ku..... </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Still Malaysian blame G for high price imported car&#8230;. Please, wake up. your brain full negative estasy. If Malaysian work hard as Japs or work smart like all europe ppl, so all can get big pay for quality working result. Ini siang malam mimpi nak pakai kereta mewah, kerja malas. Tau ujung bulan jumpa rimau mintak duit. Huh&#8230;. Malaysian Ku&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: theanswer</title>
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		<dc:creator>theanswer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 18:57:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hoh..some of us in here already sed something out of the topic. </description>
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		<title>By: lan</title>
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		<dc:creator>lan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 18:52:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mazda 3 MPS said, 
November 4, 2009 @ 3:46 pm 
 
haha your friend is poor&#8230;.my friend who works in the front counter at Barclays Bank earn 100000GBP 
 
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my friend is assistant manager at PR company. Nope, they dont earn much. People, please get your facts right.  
 
 
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GBP3k a month before tax. They have one of the highest tax rates around. They also have council tax, tv license, and other taxes plus 17.5% VAT on most items.  
 
A Merc C Class plus a/c and other ding dongs (mid level spec) cost about 25-26k brand new. that works out to be...130k (now) and 180k (last year) - due to currency fluctuations.  
 
So if you bring back RM2k a month, and a car is GBP24k - thats two years pay.  
 
And they still dont buy Mercs, BMWs nor expensive cars. Why? Because they cant afford it. 
 
Example - If Malaysian Govt is to remove the tax, say an 85k vios becomes 50k, and a proton becomes 35k and a merc becomes 85k, what would the person buy. 
 
hes not gonna buy the proton even though its much much cheaper. hes not gonna buy the vios, but the merc instead. either way, cheaper cars wont make a difference to ppl because theyll buy whatever they planned to spend anyway.  
 
Dont blame the govt for you not earning much to afford that expensive car. get off the rose tinted lenses that europeans drive nice cars, they dont. Not everybody in the EU drives mercs or beemers. what you see on TV aint representative. 
 
Public transport in malaysia, yeah well its shit. but so is the one in the uk. a bus is still a bus. its still cramped, theres rude drivers, wait for one, three come along. and youre bound to get mugged once.  
 
we complain and blame other people too much. im too lazy to take public transport yet the bus stop is in front of my house. but i dont complain if i have to drive a shit car.  
 
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Is your friend working as cashier at Tesco&#8217;s? 
 
40k GBP a year is not very high at all! Come out to around 3k GBP per month with bonus.  
- youll find that it is quite high. Qualified barristers start at GBP3k before tax. 
 
 
So of course he will drive an older model. AND, probably he already done with all monthly repayments! 
- he has to save up money and took the bus for a coupla years.  
 
 
But at least its better than Malaysia. He will most likely drive 6 year old Proton Iswara/Wira and maybe still owe the bank! 
- correct. but he couldve taken a 3 year loan and buy a higher priced car. but why didnt he? - attitude.  
 
I rather drive 6 years old Fiesta than brand new Persona, to be honest. 15 years old Corolla oso better than brand new Saga 
 
- you dont know shit. Id rather drive brand new persona then 6 years old fiesta. you know what they use at the rear wheels. Drum brakes. 15 years old corolla aint better than brand new Saga. 
 
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Please dont get me started on people who buy 10 year old rust buckets for performance sakes. that 1997 Silvia is probably not the best investment you&#039;ll make mate. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mazda 3 MPS said,</p>
<p>November 4, 2009 @ 3:46 pm</p>
<p>haha your friend is poor&hellip;.my friend who works in the front counter at Barclays Bank earn 100000GBP</p>
<p>_______________________________</p>
<p>my friend is assistant manager at PR company. Nope, they dont earn much. People, please get your facts right. </p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;</p>
<p>GBP3k a month before tax. They have one of the highest tax rates around. They also have council tax, tv license, and other taxes plus 17.5% VAT on most items. </p>
<p>A Merc C Class plus a/c and other ding dongs (mid level spec) cost about 25-26k brand new. that works out to be&#8230;130k (now) and 180k (last year) &#8211; due to currency fluctuations. </p>
<p>So if you bring back RM2k a month, and a car is GBP24k &#8211; thats two years pay. </p>
<p>And they still dont buy Mercs, BMWs nor expensive cars. Why? Because they cant afford it.</p>
<p>Example &#8211; If Malaysian Govt is to remove the tax, say an 85k vios becomes 50k, and a proton becomes 35k and a merc becomes 85k, what would the person buy.</p>
<p>hes not gonna buy the proton even though its much much cheaper. hes not gonna buy the vios, but the merc instead. either way, cheaper cars wont make a difference to ppl because theyll buy whatever they planned to spend anyway. </p>
<p>Dont blame the govt for you not earning much to afford that expensive car. get off the rose tinted lenses that europeans drive nice cars, they dont. Not everybody in the EU drives mercs or beemers. what you see on TV aint representative.</p>
<p>Public transport in malaysia, yeah well its shit. but so is the one in the uk. a bus is still a bus. its still cramped, theres rude drivers, wait for one, three come along. and youre bound to get mugged once. </p>
<p>we complain and blame other people too much. im too lazy to take public transport yet the bus stop is in front of my house. but i dont complain if i have to drive a shit car. </p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>Is your friend working as cashier at Tesco&rsquo;s?</p>
<p>40k GBP a year is not very high at all! Come out to around 3k GBP per month with bonus. </p>
<p>- youll find that it is quite high. Qualified barristers start at GBP3k before tax.</p>
<p>So of course he will drive an older model. AND, probably he already done with all monthly repayments!</p>
<p>- he has to save up money and took the bus for a coupla years. </p>
<p>But at least its better than Malaysia. He will most likely drive 6 year old Proton Iswara/Wira and maybe still owe the bank!</p>
<p>- correct. but he couldve taken a 3 year loan and buy a higher priced car. but why didnt he? &#8211; attitude. </p>
<p>I rather drive 6 years old Fiesta than brand new Persona, to be honest. 15 years old Corolla oso better than brand new Saga</p>
<p>- you dont know shit. Id rather drive brand new persona then 6 years old fiesta. you know what they use at the rear wheels. Drum brakes. 15 years old corolla aint better than brand new Saga.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;</p>
<p>Please dont get me started on people who buy 10 year old rust buckets for performance sakes. that 1997 Silvia is probably not the best investment you&#039;ll make mate.</p>
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		<title>By: Tiadaid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tiadaid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 17:35:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mazda 3 MPS said, 
November 4, 2009 @ 3:46 pm 
 
haha your friend is poor&#8230;.my friend who works in the front counter at Barclays Bank earn 100000GBP 
 
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What a load of bull. Sure he earns 100K since he pockets all the money of the depositors! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mazda 3 MPS said,</p>
<p>November 4, 2009 @ 3:46 pm</p>
<p>haha your friend is poor&hellip;.my friend who works in the front counter at Barclays Bank earn 100000GBP</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;</p>
<p>What a load of bull. Sure he earns 100K since he pockets all the money of the depositors!</p>
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		<title>By: Stop Bullshitting</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stop Bullshitting</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 17:22:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mazda 3 MPS said, 
 
November 4, 2009 @ 3:46 pm 
 
haha your friend is poor&#8230;.my friend who works in the front counter at Barclays Bank earn 100000GBP 
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211; 
 
Gile bohong... keje kerani bank gaji 100000 GBP per year... itu dlm 8000 gbp per month... engineer BP pun baru 2000 ++ gbp per month.... </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mazda 3 MPS said,</p>
<p>November 4, 2009 @ 3:46 pm</p>
<p>haha your friend is poor&hellip;.my friend who works in the front counter at Barclays Bank earn 100000GBP</p>
<p>&mdash;&mdash;&mdash;&mdash;&mdash;&mdash;&mdash;&mdash;&mdash;&mdash;&mdash;&mdash;&mdash;&mdash;&mdash;&mdash;&mdash;&mdash;&mdash;&mdash;&ndash;</p>
<p>Gile bohong&#8230; keje kerani bank gaji 100000 GBP per year&#8230; itu dlm 8000 gbp per month&#8230; engineer BP pun baru 2000 ++ gbp per month&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: kodok</title>
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		<dc:creator>kodok</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 17:04:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>no proton = no crazy duty,no sky high price imported cars,no stupid policy NAP,m&#039;sia would beat thai in auto industry...as simple as that &amp; its a fact...other than that its BS!..wakakaka </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>no proton = no crazy duty,no sky high price imported cars,no stupid policy NAP,m&#039;sia would beat thai in auto industry&#8230;as simple as that &amp; its a fact&#8230;other than that its BS!..wakakaka</p>
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		<title>By: apa-apa aje lah</title>
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		<dc:creator>apa-apa aje lah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 16:09:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hameed Koyakuti said, 
November 4, 2009 @ 1:19 pm  
 
&#8220;The ex-Perodua man has been at Proton&#8217;s helm for about 4 years now and I think most of us agree that under his leadership Proton has taken a turn for the better.&#8221; 
 
Kindly re-check the facts pls. 
Profitability &#8211; Down 
Domestic Volume &#8211; Down 
Export Volume &#8211; Down 
New Market Opening &#8211; Down 
Product Features &#8211; So-so 
Product quality &#8211; Up ( if you compare with previous Proton model) Down ( if you compare with competitor of the same class ) 
After Sales Service &#8211; Still the same crap service level 
 
What to boast for ???? 
 
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PLS GIVE US STATSTIC/DATA. DONT TALK BLUNTLY!!!! 
 
if you have precise data, fine. if no..f$%k yourself!!! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hameed Koyakuti said,</p>
<p>November 4, 2009 @ 1:19 pm </p>
<p>&ldquo;The ex-Perodua man has been at Proton&rsquo;s helm for about 4 years now and I think most of us agree that under his leadership Proton has taken a turn for the better.&rdquo;</p>
<p>Kindly re-check the facts pls.</p>
<p>Profitability &ndash; Down</p>
<p>Domestic Volume &ndash; Down</p>
<p>Export Volume &ndash; Down</p>
<p>New Market Opening &ndash; Down</p>
<p>Product Features &ndash; So-so</p>
<p>Product quality &ndash; Up ( if you compare with previous Proton model) Down ( if you compare with competitor of the same class )</p>
<p>After Sales Service &ndash; Still the same crap service level</p>
<p>What to boast for ????</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;</p>
<p>PLS GIVE US STATSTIC/DATA. DONT TALK BLUNTLY!!!!</p>
<p>if you have precise data, fine. if no..f$%k yourself!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Mazda 3 MPS</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mazda 3 MPS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 15:46:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lan said, 
 
November 4, 2009 @ 9:40 am 
 
Typical Malaysians. When proton comes out with something, they complain. 
 
They start comparing with Japanese cars. &#8220;Oh, Japanese cars are quality..&#8221; 
 
When they start driving one, they change the rims, the ICE, and the bodykit. 
 
When something goes wrong, they buy 2nd hand parts. Can&#8217;t afford original. (All the cash has gone to the modifications) 
 
And when they see a new exotic car, such as the M3, M5, AMGs and A4s, they complain &#8220;Oh the govt put tax so we can&#8217;t afford this..) 
 
The truth is, even without the excise duites, we still can&#8217;t afford it. If you earn RM7K a month, please don&#8217;t think you can afford Skylines, M3s and the such. The truth is you can&#8217;t. 
Not every young turk in the UK drives a sports car/ good car. My friend drives a 6 year old fiesta. He&#8217;s earning 40K GBP a year. 
 
So Malaysians, if you can&#8217;t have that M3 or Skyline, or whatever car it is, don&#8217;t blame it on the govt. Blame it on your lazy ass for not earning enough. 
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haha your friend is poor....my friend who works in the front counter at Barclays Bank earn 100000GBP </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lan said,</p>
<p>November 4, 2009 @ 9:40 am</p>
<p>Typical Malaysians. When proton comes out with something, they complain.</p>
<p>They start comparing with Japanese cars. &ldquo;Oh, Japanese cars are quality..&rdquo;</p>
<p>When they start driving one, they change the rims, the ICE, and the bodykit.</p>
<p>When something goes wrong, they buy 2nd hand parts. Can&rsquo;t afford original. (All the cash has gone to the modifications)</p>
<p>And when they see a new exotic car, such as the M3, M5, AMGs and A4s, they complain &ldquo;Oh the govt put tax so we can&rsquo;t afford this..)</p>
<p>The truth is, even without the excise duites, we still can&rsquo;t afford it. If you earn RM7K a month, please don&rsquo;t think you can afford Skylines, M3s and the such. The truth is you can&rsquo;t.</p>
<p>Not every young turk in the UK drives a sports car/ good car. My friend drives a 6 year old fiesta. He&rsquo;s earning 40K GBP a year.</p>
<p>So Malaysians, if you can&rsquo;t have that M3 or Skyline, or whatever car it is, don&rsquo;t blame it on the govt. Blame it on your lazy ass for not earning enough.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;</p>
<p>haha your friend is poor&#8230;.my friend who works in the front counter at Barclays Bank earn 100000GBP</p>
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		<title>By: apa-apa aje lah</title>
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		<dc:creator>apa-apa aje lah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 15:13:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SY0H said, 
November 3, 2009 @ 9:06 pm  
 
Err&#8230; excuse me, ain&#8217;t Proton are missing something for their grandeur plans? 
 
Any &#8220;juicy&#8221; plans to upgrade the &#8220;Tin-Milo&#8221; quality to &#8220;Tin-Dutchlady&#8221; quality at least? 
 
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sama apa itu 2 tin...ada beza ka? </description>
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<p>November 3, 2009 @ 9:06 pm </p>
<p>Err&hellip; excuse me, ain&rsquo;t Proton are missing something for their grandeur plans?</p>
<p>Any &ldquo;juicy&rdquo; plans to upgrade the &ldquo;Tin-Milo&rdquo; quality to &ldquo;Tin-Dutchlady&rdquo; quality at least?</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>sama apa itu 2 tin&#8230;ada beza ka?</p>
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		<title>By: Eyesore</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eyesore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 14:10:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hameed Koyakuti said, 
 
November 4, 2009 @ 1:23 pm 
 
P1 Wimax &#8211; Potong Jgn Tak Potong 
 
P1 &#8211; Tutup Jgn Tak Tutup 
Those from Perodua can go back to Rawang 
Those from Konsortium Transnasional Berhad can go back bawak bas la&#8230;&#8230; 
Those from Styling can go and design bas and P2. 
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P1 Wimax - Already Cut even more slower..cut cut cut... cut your head la...  lol 
 
P1 - Tutup pun belum tentu ko boleh beli Beemer or merc or porsche etc... keep on dreaming la... 
 
stupid bangla... go back to your country la... </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hameed Koyakuti said,</p>
<p>November 4, 2009 @ 1:23 pm</p>
<p>P1 Wimax &ndash; Potong Jgn Tak Potong</p>
<p>P1 &ndash; Tutup Jgn Tak Tutup</p>
<p>Those from Perodua can go back to Rawang</p>
<p>Those from Konsortium Transnasional Berhad can go back bawak bas la&hellip;&hellip;</p>
<p>Those from Styling can go and design bas and P2.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-</p>
<p>P1 Wimax &#8211; Already Cut even more slower..cut cut cut&#8230; cut your head la&#8230;  lol</p>
<p>P1 &#8211; Tutup pun belum tentu ko boleh beli Beemer or merc or porsche etc&#8230; keep on dreaming la&#8230;</p>
<p>stupid bangla&#8230; go back to your country la&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Rico</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 13:25:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In my humble opinion, maybe the first 15 years of proton is a waste. and DSZ came in and maybe he can turn things around. that is why maybe the government still wants to protect PROTON. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my humble opinion, maybe the first 15 years of proton is a waste. and DSZ came in and maybe he can turn things around. that is why maybe the government still wants to protect PROTON.</p>
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		<title>By: Hameed Koyakuti</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hameed Koyakuti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 13:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>P1 Wimax - Potong Jgn Tak Potong 
 
P1 - Tutup Jgn Tak Tutup 
Those from Perodua can go back to Rawang 
Those from Konsortium Transnasional Berhad can go back bawak bas la...... 
Those from Styling can go and design bas and P2. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P1 Wimax &#8211; Potong Jgn Tak Potong</p>
<p>P1 &#8211; Tutup Jgn Tak Tutup</p>
<p>Those from Perodua can go back to Rawang</p>
<p>Those from Konsortium Transnasional Berhad can go back bawak bas la&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>Those from Styling can go and design bas and P2.</p>
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		<title>By: Hameed Koyakuti</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/11/03/juicy-details-about-protons-future-plans-revealed/#comment-271570</link>
		<dc:creator>Hameed Koyakuti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 13:19:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The ex-Perodua man has been at Proton&#8217;s helm for about 4 years now and I think most of us agree that under his leadership Proton has taken a turn for the better.&quot; 
 
Kindly re-check the facts pls. 
Profitability - Down 
Domestic Volume - Down 
Export Volume - Down 
New Market Opening - Down 
Product Features - So-so 
Product quality - Up ( if you compare with previous Proton model) Down ( if you compare with competitor of the same class ) 
After Sales Service - Still the same crap service level 
 
What to boast for ???? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;The ex-Perodua man has been at Proton&rsquo;s helm for about 4 years now and I think most of us agree that under his leadership Proton has taken a turn for the better.&quot;</p>
<p>Kindly re-check the facts pls.</p>
<p>Profitability &#8211; Down</p>
<p>Domestic Volume &#8211; Down</p>
<p>Export Volume &#8211; Down</p>
<p>New Market Opening &#8211; Down</p>
<p>Product Features &#8211; So-so</p>
<p>Product quality &#8211; Up ( if you compare with previous Proton model) Down ( if you compare with competitor of the same class )</p>
<p>After Sales Service &#8211; Still the same crap service level</p>
<p>What to boast for ????</p>
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