Comments on: Changes for next year’s Nissan GT-R http://paultan.org/2009/11/12/changes-for-next-years-nissan-gt-r/ Paul Tan on the Automotive Industry Tue, 14 Feb 2012 17:59:11 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: The Stig http://paultan.org/2009/11/12/changes-for-next-years-nissan-gt-r/#comment-273898 The Stig Sat, 14 Nov 2009 18:44:05 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=17417#comment-273898 James or should I say captain slow, I did the TG record faster than the 430 Scuderia. Don't you think the Scuderia is lighter more powerful than the normal 997 Turbo? Think about it. James or should I say captain slow, I did the TG record faster than the 430 Scuderia. Don't you think the Scuderia is lighter more powerful than the normal 997 Turbo? Think about it.

]]> By: Mohd http://paultan.org/2009/11/12/changes-for-next-years-nissan-gt-r/#comment-273707 Mohd Fri, 13 Nov 2009 17:06:06 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=17417#comment-273707 James said, November 13, 2009 @ 8:34 am "Thats why, IMO the Porsche is faster in the real world. Believe what you like, but know this, Porsche Turbo is lighter also has AWD and has more power. How can a GTR which is heavier, and has less power be faster?" Another point: If Nissan is so sure about the lap time, why they didn't call Porsche for a competition lap on the ring in front of the international motor press ? This would be the greatest Advertisement for Nissan ever. Porsche beaten on their home track in Germany. But Nissan doesn't seem so sure about that... ;) James said,

November 13, 2009 @ 8:34 am

"Thats why, IMO the Porsche is faster in the real world. Believe what you like, but know this, Porsche Turbo is lighter also has AWD and has more power. How can a GTR which is heavier, and has less power be faster?"

Another point: If Nissan is so sure about the lap time, why they didn't call Porsche for a competition lap on the ring in front of the international motor press ?

This would be the greatest Advertisement for Nissan ever. Porsche beaten on their home track in Germany. But Nissan doesn't seem so sure about that… ;)

]]> By: chew ban http://paultan.org/2009/11/12/changes-for-next-years-nissan-gt-r/#comment-273690 chew ban Fri, 13 Nov 2009 12:34:54 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=17417#comment-273690 i want reventon, muahahaha i want reventon, muahahaha

]]> By: The Noble Proton Bas http://paultan.org/2009/11/12/changes-for-next-years-nissan-gt-r/#comment-273674 The Noble Proton Bas Fri, 13 Nov 2009 09:33:54 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=17417#comment-273674 this is probably the greatest car in the world. but you would still want a gallardo this is probably the greatest car in the world. but you would still want a gallardo

]]> By: James http://paultan.org/2009/11/12/changes-for-next-years-nissan-gt-r/#comment-273661 James Fri, 13 Nov 2009 08:34:42 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=17417#comment-273661 I did say it is my opinion rather than the official lap times. let me explain. If you've watched Best motoring and other journalists who tried to replicate the record time of 7:26 set by GTR. You find that non of them are even close to the lap times... the lap times are usually in the region of 7:35 to 7:50. What? why such big difference? I know Nissan said they used the normal tires so they didn't cheat. but they didn't tell you is that they chase this lap record day in day out (non-stop). Until one sunny dry hot day i.e. perfect condition, they've the perfect lap time. If you bring your GTR and give it to a pro driver on any day at the ring, you'll find the lap times are in the 7:35+... On the other hand, bring the Porsche, chances are you'll be able to reach 7:29+ most of the time. Thats why, IMO the Porsche is faster in the real world. Believe what you like, but know this, Porsche Turbo is lighter also has AWD and has more power. How can a GTR which is heavier, and has less power be faster? Another point of thought... Remember topgear? the GTR is slower than the Porsche on the TG lap. I did say it is my opinion rather than the official lap times. let me explain.

If you've watched Best motoring and other journalists who tried to replicate the record time of 7:26 set by GTR. You find that non of them are even close to the lap times… the lap times are usually in the region of 7:35 to 7:50.

What? why such big difference? I know Nissan said they used the normal tires so they didn't cheat. but they didn't tell you is that they chase this lap record day in day out (non-stop). Until one sunny dry hot day i.e. perfect condition, they've the perfect lap time.

If you bring your GTR and give it to a pro driver on any day at the ring, you'll find the lap times are in the 7:35+… On the other hand, bring the Porsche, chances are you'll be able to reach 7:29+ most of the time.

Thats why, IMO the Porsche is faster in the real world. Believe what you like, but know this, Porsche Turbo is lighter also has AWD and has more power. How can a GTR which is heavier, and has less power be faster?

Another point of thought… Remember topgear? the GTR is slower than the Porsche on the TG lap.

]]> By: mu_77 http://paultan.org/2009/11/12/changes-for-next-years-nissan-gt-r/#comment-273613 mu_77 Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:42:06 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=17417#comment-273613 The best sports car i rate this!!! Performance, space, comfort and futuristic.... May i know how much is a recond gtr?? Best deal tht can get?? The best sports car i rate this!!! Performance, space, comfort and futuristic….

May i know how much is a recond gtr?? Best deal tht can get??

]]> By: Mohd http://paultan.org/2009/11/12/changes-for-next-years-nissan-gt-r/#comment-273604 Mohd Thu, 12 Nov 2009 20:21:07 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=17417#comment-273604 tonton said, November 12, 2009 @ 6:14 pm "the nurburgring track record just proved your opinion is wrong. :) porsche carrera GT = 7:28.71 Nissan GTR = 7:26.70 and the v-spec do better = 7:25" Sorry, this information is wrong. Official record: Florian Gruber, 13th August 2009, 7m11.57s The car was a Gumpert Apollo Sport (Audi V8 bi-turbo engine): <a href="http://paultan.org/2007/02/08/gumpert-apollo-powered-by-audi/" rel="nofollow">http://paultan.org/2007/02/08/gumpert-apollo-powe...</a> Source: <a href="http://www.worldcarfans.com/109081821111/gumpert-apollo-sport-sets-nurburgring-lap-record" rel="nofollow">http://www.worldcarfans.com/109081821111/gumpert-...</a> The previous speed record on the Nürburgring was held by Michael Düchting clocking in 7m14.89s on a Donkervoort D8 RS06 in November 2005, also Audi powered (2 liter, 4cyl turbo, 393hp). Concerning the GT-R record: There is no record. Nissan simply claimed that they had time without any proof from an independent side... tonton said,

November 12, 2009 @ 6:14 pm

"the nurburgring track record just proved your opinion is wrong. :)

porsche carrera GT = 7:28.71

Nissan GTR = 7:26.70

and the v-spec do better = 7:25"

Sorry, this information is wrong.

Official record: Florian Gruber, 13th August 2009, 7m11.57s

The car was a Gumpert Apollo Sport (Audi V8 bi-turbo engine): http://paultan.org/2007/02/08/gumpert-apollo-powe…

Source: http://www.worldcarfans.com/109081821111/gumpert-…

The previous speed record on the Nürburgring was held by Michael Düchting clocking in 7m14.89s on a Donkervoort D8 RS06 in November 2005, also Audi powered (2 liter, 4cyl turbo, 393hp).

Concerning the GT-R record: There is no record. Nissan simply claimed that they had time without any proof from an independent side…

]]> By: T H C http://paultan.org/2009/11/12/changes-for-next-years-nissan-gt-r/#comment-273599 T H C Thu, 12 Nov 2009 19:51:42 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=17417#comment-273599 My dream car :) My dream car :)

]]> By: tonton http://paultan.org/2009/11/12/changes-for-next-years-nissan-gt-r/#comment-273587 tonton Thu, 12 Nov 2009 18:14:33 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=17417#comment-273587 Littlefire said, November 12, 2009 @ 10:00 am All the talks and comment… But in the end, how many people can own this car in Bolehland… Haiz… Thanks to NAP.. ------------------------------------------ even without NAP, still the car price is 55k pound++. which is for a simple conversion to RM -------> RM300k++ can u own this godzilla, mate? -------------------------------------------- interesting to see a continuous development on the R35. Very NOT like a japanese company. Looks like Ghosn’s vision is more for the long term. Similar to Mazda’s MX-5 and RX-8. This will hopefully keep the GTR in touch with the Porsche. Note: the latest Porsche is faster than the GTR (IMO --------------------------------------- the nurburgring track record just proved your opinion is wrong. :) porsche carrera GT = 7:28.71 Nissan GTR = 7:26.70 and the v-spec do better = 7:25 Littlefire said,

November 12, 2009 @ 10:00 am

All the talks and comment… But in the end, how many people can own this car in Bolehland… Haiz… Thanks to NAP..

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even without NAP, still the car price is 55k pound++. which is for a simple conversion to RM ——-> RM300k++

can u own this godzilla, mate?

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interesting to see a continuous development on the R35. Very NOT like a japanese company. Looks like Ghosn’s vision is more for the long term. Similar to Mazda’s MX-5 and RX-8.

This will hopefully keep the GTR in touch with the Porsche. Note: the latest Porsche is faster than the GTR (IMO

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the nurburgring track record just proved your opinion is wrong. :)

porsche carrera GT = 7:28.71

Nissan GTR = 7:26.70

and the v-spec do better = 7:25

]]> By: Mohd http://paultan.org/2009/11/12/changes-for-next-years-nissan-gt-r/#comment-273584 Mohd Thu, 12 Nov 2009 17:38:02 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=17417#comment-273584 But Porsche doesn't have NACA, EBD, NVH and A2DP. Lot's of cryptic abbreviations are quite important in Malaysia... ;) But Porsche doesn't have NACA, EBD, NVH and A2DP.

Lot's of cryptic abbreviations are quite important in Malaysia… ;)

]]> By: nighttrain http://paultan.org/2009/11/12/changes-for-next-years-nissan-gt-r/#comment-273556 nighttrain Thu, 12 Nov 2009 14:58:59 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=17417#comment-273556 thanks _xXx_, I was just waiting for ezmil to figure that out himself... hehe. thanks _xXx_, I was just waiting for ezmil to figure that out himself… hehe.

]]> By: jamsbong http://paultan.org/2009/11/12/changes-for-next-years-nissan-gt-r/#comment-273550 jamsbong Thu, 12 Nov 2009 14:28:36 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=17417#comment-273550 interesting to see a continuous development on the R35. Very NOT like a japanese company. Looks like Ghosn's vision is more for the long term. Similar to Mazda's MX-5 and RX-8. This will hopefully keep the GTR in touch with the Porsche. Note: the latest Porsche is faster than the GTR (IMO). interesting to see a continuous development on the R35. Very NOT like a japanese company. Looks like Ghosn's vision is more for the long term. Similar to Mazda's MX-5 and RX-8.

This will hopefully keep the GTR in touch with the Porsche. Note: the latest Porsche is faster than the GTR (IMO).

]]> By: Chris Chong http://paultan.org/2009/11/12/changes-for-next-years-nissan-gt-r/#comment-273549 Chris Chong Thu, 12 Nov 2009 14:25:47 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=17417#comment-273549 What? Only 40GB Hard disk? My PlayStation 3 has more hard disk space than that... Which means a PS3 is better than a GT-R :) What? Only 40GB Hard disk?

My PlayStation 3 has more hard disk space than that…

Which means a PS3 is better than a GT-R :)

]]> By: JaY http://paultan.org/2009/11/12/changes-for-next-years-nissan-gt-r/#comment-273533 JaY Thu, 12 Nov 2009 12:02:05 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=17417#comment-273533 haha, better buy Mitsubishi Lancer GT..convert to Evo X bodykit and styling..and park there...dont buy sports car la if just want to park at mall..hahaha haha, better buy Mitsubishi Lancer GT..convert to Evo X bodykit and styling..and park there…dont buy sports car la if just want to park at mall..hahaha

]]> By: _xXx_ http://paultan.org/2009/11/12/changes-for-next-years-nissan-gt-r/#comment-273532 _xXx_ Thu, 12 Nov 2009 12:01:46 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=17417#comment-273532 ezmil75 said, November 12, 2009 @ 10:22 am allo nighttrain This is Euro spec GT-R, not Malaysian spec GT-R… of course their diff will get cold in winter.. ________________________________________ wat malaysian spec...u muz b kidding. How many sold here so far? 650k sebijik. Special spec juz to cater the tiny malaysian market??? ezmil75 said,

November 12, 2009 @ 10:22 am

allo nighttrain

This is Euro spec GT-R, not Malaysian spec GT-R… of course their diff will get cold in winter..

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wat malaysian spec…u muz b kidding. How many sold here so far? 650k sebijik. Special spec juz to cater the tiny malaysian market???

]]> By: tonton http://paultan.org/2009/11/12/changes-for-next-years-nissan-gt-r/#comment-273529 tonton Thu, 12 Nov 2009 11:49:54 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=17417#comment-273529 malaysian GTR just park at the mall, and the owner spend most of his time lepak at starbucks malaysian GTR just park at the mall, and the owner spend most of his time lepak at starbucks

]]> By: JaY http://paultan.org/2009/11/12/changes-for-next-years-nissan-gt-r/#comment-273524 JaY Thu, 12 Nov 2009 11:38:32 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=17417#comment-273524 saw few gtr at sepang peronas station during weekend...singapore gtr...probably waiting to test their cars at F1 track..but sadly they cant wait to get inside the race track..sprint their gtr along highway to LCCT..get caught during filling fuel at that petrol pump..haha..where is Malaysian GTR???...hehehe saw few gtr at sepang peronas station during weekend…singapore gtr…probably waiting to test their cars at F1 track..but sadly they cant wait to get inside the race track..sprint their gtr along highway to LCCT..get caught during filling fuel at that petrol pump..haha..where is Malaysian GTR???…hehehe

]]> By: ricaza http://paultan.org/2009/11/12/changes-for-next-years-nissan-gt-r/#comment-273519 ricaza Thu, 12 Nov 2009 11:23:47 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=17417#comment-273519 heman said, November 12, 2009 @ 11:18 am •CO2 emissions have dropped by 3g/km – now at 295g/km.? 2.95g/km? ----------------- i think it means before this CO2 emissions = 298g/km heman said,

November 12, 2009 @ 11:18 am

•CO2 emissions have dropped by 3g/km – now at 295g/km.?

2.95g/km?

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i think it means before this CO2 emissions = 298g/km

]]> By: heman http://paultan.org/2009/11/12/changes-for-next-years-nissan-gt-r/#comment-273516 heman Thu, 12 Nov 2009 11:18:15 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=17417#comment-273516 •CO2 emissions have dropped by 3g/km – now at 295g/km.? 2.95g/km? •CO2 emissions have dropped by 3g/km – now at 295g/km.?

2.95g/km?

]]> By: Jackal http://paultan.org/2009/11/12/changes-for-next-years-nissan-gt-r/#comment-273508 Jackal Thu, 12 Nov 2009 10:53:02 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=17417#comment-273508 Good updates on the GTR. Any info if the transmission issues have been resolved?? Good updates on the GTR. Any info if the transmission issues have been resolved??

]]> By: ezmil75 http://paultan.org/2009/11/12/changes-for-next-years-nissan-gt-r/#comment-273504 ezmil75 Thu, 12 Nov 2009 10:22:56 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=17417#comment-273504 allo nighttrain This is Euro spec GT-R, not Malaysian spec GT-R... of course their diff will get cold in winter.. allo nighttrain

This is Euro spec GT-R, not Malaysian spec GT-R… of course their diff will get cold in winter..

]]> By: Littlefire http://paultan.org/2009/11/12/changes-for-next-years-nissan-gt-r/#comment-273499 Littlefire Thu, 12 Nov 2009 10:00:41 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=17417#comment-273499 All the talks and comment... But in the end, how many people can own this car in Bolehland... Haiz... Thanks to NAP.. All the talks and comment… But in the end, how many people can own this car in Bolehland… Haiz… Thanks to NAP..

]]> By: nighttrain http://paultan.org/2009/11/12/changes-for-next-years-nissan-gt-r/#comment-273497 nighttrain Thu, 12 Nov 2009 09:52:50 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=17417#comment-273497 - Computer logic that controls torque distribution between the front and rear axles have been changed to reduce rear axle binding that occurs when differential fluids are cold. That's a waste of programming, differential fluids wont get cold here. Cool, maybe. - Gun metallic finish surrounds for the speedometer and RPM meter. Gunmetal grey on the exterior would be nice. Paul, If the paint shop don't know what gunmetal grey is, how do you explain it to the paint guy? Is there a name on the can that refers to gunmetal grey? They also don't understand warna besi pistol.. heheh - An improved air deflector design increases cooling to the rear brakes, which is probably needed now that the EBD has increased rear brake bias. Is this integrated into the wheel design, or another part of the body? - Computer logic that controls torque distribution between the front and rear axles have been changed to reduce rear axle binding that occurs when differential fluids are cold.

That's a waste of programming, differential fluids wont get cold here. Cool, maybe.

- Gun metallic finish surrounds for the speedometer and RPM meter.

Gunmetal grey on the exterior would be nice. Paul, If the paint shop don't know what gunmetal grey is, how do you explain it to the paint guy? Is there a name on the can that refers to gunmetal grey? They also don't understand warna besi pistol.. heheh

- An improved air deflector design increases cooling to the rear brakes, which is probably needed now that the EBD has increased rear brake bias.

Is this integrated into the wheel design, or another part of the body?

]]> By: Azri http://paultan.org/2009/11/12/changes-for-next-years-nissan-gt-r/#comment-273493 Azri Thu, 12 Nov 2009 09:36:17 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=17417#comment-273493 GRRR!! >:( GRRR!! >:(

]]> By: ez http://paultan.org/2009/11/12/changes-for-next-years-nissan-gt-r/#comment-273492 ez Thu, 12 Nov 2009 09:34:15 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=17417#comment-273492 1st.. cool.. 1st..

cool..

]]> By: Dato'_Seri_Naji http://paultan.org/2009/11/12/changes-for-next-years-nissan-gt-r/#comment-273489 Dato'_Seri_Naji Thu, 12 Nov 2009 09:29:09 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=17417#comment-273489 1st 1st

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