Perodua Alza Advanced Version – extra equipment

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The highest specification level of the Perodua Alza is actually a model called the Perodua Alza Advanced Version, which is basically based on the Alza 1.5 Automatic Premium and Manual Premium but with a few additional specifications. You can book this now but delivery will only start in March 2010.

You basically get a new bodykit which consists of front, rear and side skirts and a different rear spoiler. On the inside, you get leather seat covers for all the seats, but the leather treatment does not continue onto the door trim. Also provided is a 5 inch touchscreen LCD which has a Windows CE-based GPS navigation system with a SiRF Atlas IV chipset and 500MHz CPU. The LCD also displays a feed from a 150 degree lense reverse camera.

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Finally, there is tinted film for all the glass in the Alza which Perodua claims is GPS and SmartTAG friendly. Perodua states the specifications as following: 95% IR rejection, 99% UV rejection, 70% light for the front windscreen and about over 50% light for the rest of the glass. This tint has a 5 year warranty against peeling, oxidisation, cracking, discoloration and fading. I assume that as an OEM option this tint is also JPJ-approved.

The Alza Advanced Version manual goes for RM66,490 for solid and RM66,990 for metallic, while the Alza Advanced Version automatic goes for RM69,490 for solid and RM69,990 for metallic. The S. Metallic option is missing because the Alza Advanced Version only comes in three colours – Ivory White, Ebony Black and Classy Purple, while the only special metallic colour is Pearl White.

I reckon you could probably get a good Garmin nuvi for under RM1,000 and add on a very good set of tint for about RM2,000 to RM3,000 or so maximum. If you don’t want the leather seat covers and bodykit you’re better off adding your own tint and GPS. Not sure about the cost of the reverse camera though.

Look after the jump for more pix of the Alza Advanced Version.

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Comments

  • reuben how on Nov 24, 2009 at 7:59 am

    If malaysians don’t buck up they can’t export their cars even to the united kingdom anymore. I think UK is the only EU country where proton and perodua is available. By 2012 all vehicles must be fitted with Electronic Stability Control (some hondas have VSA in malaysia, same thing). I can’t understand why MPVs which are targetted at families can be sold without even an airbag or ABS. Whats even more shocking is that the cost of incorporating ESC and ABS is only RM1250!!!

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  • ago87 on Nov 24, 2009 at 10:06 am

    1st…Normal version looks better lah…don't cheat our money lah plz…

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  • Gajen on Nov 24, 2009 at 10:13 am

    not bad but i would have preferred black leather seats with red stitches…and the door/gear should have been leather as well…

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  • overpriced. i can see no reason why a person would take this one .

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  • replying lo on Nov 24, 2009 at 10:25 am

    because it is perodua = daihatsu = toyota?

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  • Typical…

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  • i am not a basher but perodua alza a.e is pointless, u got a g.p.s which u can buy yourself, u got leather seat which doesn't seems to go to the door panels, u got 5+2 seats but the last 2 seats are too small . and it is priced so high considering the engineering effort isn't that much than ground-up developed exora.

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  • the whole reason to rebadge a car is to cut down the cost which involves engineering the car.but not for perodua.

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  • koozold on Nov 24, 2009 at 11:05 am

    sigh…the leather's colour look boring and dull…change to others colour pls…sth that looks classy…

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  • mystvearn on Nov 24, 2009 at 11:06 am

    Abit distracting and weird having the satnav ontop of the spedometer, but then since this car has a middle mounted dashboard-to save cost, then that is the option. Also, its ugly if the GPS is not built-in.

    And what is with the side skirts and the spoiler for? Need extra downforce? Gear knob still same, steering wheel still same, in fact almost everything inside still same…

    I would really like to meet the person who wants to fork out that amount of money for something he does not need and laugh.

    Advance, no extra airbag. I would forgo those skirting for extra airbag, or better interior trim quality to the items which you touch the most. Steering wheel and gear.

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  • mengQ on Nov 24, 2009 at 11:21 am

    Just giving my own humble review here, after coming back from Perodua showroom Sri Petaling branch…

    Showroom was full of people even at 10.30pm. I saw 3 variants :

    . The Basic SX Manual – Ebony Black

    . The Premium SXi Auto – Classy Purple

    . The ADV version Auto – Ivory White*with bodykit, GPS and reverse parking camera, leather seats*

    The exterior of the car really catches my eyes, i like it, especially the front. The rear… not so, macam tiba-tiba no more backside.

    Anyway, i don't think people should compare this with Exora, both are in the different 'level'.

    I went straight to the ADV version one(croweded with people), wait for a Uncle before me to get down from the car, then i sat inside. Hey, not at all, the steering wheel wrapped in leather, with audio volume and phone answering control buttons on the left spoke. Don't really fancy the look of the steering wheel… macam shape of spanner…

    Other then that…Very nice dashboard design! Better then Exora's design i think.

    The buttons gives very good response, nice feeling pressing it, the dashboard was solid and neat, reminds me of the one in Estima.

    Foot-step leveling parking brake, macam Estima, Alphard, Merz and all =) The gear knob is at the right place and level, feel much more comfortable to operate when the armrest is down. Foot operated-parking brake and gear shift level on instrument panel is only available for Auto, those in manual just look exactly like what Myvi manual has now.

    Seats in leather, kinda comfort for a bigass like me, with seat leveling (only on driver side). Get down from the car…the "THUD" when closing the door comfirm more solid then any other Perodua cars ever made. Trust me, it's much more solid.

    Then i went to the 2nd row of seat, cupholders for the rear passengers was built in to the armrest, with side pocket at the bottom. Im 175cm tall, no problem for me, decent amount of legroom, don't expect a corridor for you to go in and out lah.

    And then i climbed to the 3rd row of seat… Hmm, ok, gotta admit it was a bit hard for me to climb into it, need a little more effort, just like how you climb to the backseat of a Satria Neo, just a little bit higher. Alright, me – 175cm, 75kgs, no problem, can fit another one more 'me' by myside. Legroom? NGAM-NGAM, at least wont sentul the front seat, left a space of 2 inch. Get the picture?

    Next, the boot space… Haha, nothing to be proud of here, with all the seats put right up, you left only half of an empty Myvi boot space, means 13inch depth. School bag boleh letak 4, 5 biji la…

    So, i don't think you can balik kampung with this Alza packed with 7 fully grown adults, cause you won't have any more space left for luggage, unless you 'ta-pau' all your baju in plastic bags lah, haha…

    But, if only 5 person? Yes, just fold down the 3rd row of seat/bench, then you can happy-happy balik kampung without 'ta-pau' all your baju in plastic bags.

    Hey, by the way, the 'bench' isn't that uncomfortable like what some of you guys say la, ok mah, at least got headrest…

    Test drive only available for people who already placed bookings. I 1st tumpang someone other people to be the passenger, then, somehow, i managed to get a chance to drive! =D

    Conclusion after being a passenger + driver :

    SUPERB!

    Power : Very good, with 4, then 6 adults in the car. The car still picks-up from acceleration. Similar like Myvi la, but this one more stable and quiet. Not much noise from engine even when revved to 4000 – 5000rpm. Maybe it's new, thats why.

    Handling & ride : Comfort for both driver & passenger, 3rd row not as bumpy as Avanza, but somehow some might feel the suspensions are too soft?? The car can take small hole easily. Cornering is stable, at least more stable then stock Myvi.

    Dashboard : Nice nice nice design. The blue backlite looks cool.

    There was this guy who tested the car full with 7 person on board says it was great and he still can feel the pick-ups when accelerate, then when straight in to the showroom and place his booking.

    Talk to a few young man and uncles, the feedbacks were 90% positives.

    This concludes my humble review. =)

    * 1030 bookings from all over Malaysia were placed so far after the official launching at 6pm. According to the branch manager.

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    • zubir on Dec 08, 2010 at 10:51 pm

      i agreed with ur opinion about my dream car alza advance.. its so nice and comfort.. the price is reasonable laa given the quality has been provided.. but i wonder, are u perodua salesman or u have been pain for ur comment??.. just kidding..

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  • mengQ on Nov 24, 2009 at 11:25 am

    Just giving my own humble review here, after coming back from Perodua showroom Sri Petaling branch…

    Showroom was full of people even at 10.30pm. I saw 3 variants :

    . The Basic SX Manual – Ebony Black

    . The Premium SXi Auto – Classy Purple

    . The ADV version Auto – Ivory White*with bodykit, GPS and reverse parking camera, leather seats*

    The exterior of the car really catches my eyes, i like it, especially the front. The rear… not so, macam tiba-tiba no more backside.

    Anyway, i don't think people should compare this with Exora, both are in the different 'level'.

    I went straight to the ADV version one(croweded with people), wait for a Uncle before me to get down from the car, then i sat inside. Hey, not bad at all, the steering wheel wrapped in leather, with audio volume and phone answering control buttons on the left spoke. Don't really fancy the look of the steering wheel… macam shape of spanner…

    Other then that…Very nice dashboard design! Better then Exora's design i think.

    The buttons gives very good response, nice feeling pressing it, the dashboard was solid and neat, reminds me of the one in Estima.

    Foot-step leveling parking brake, macam Estima, Alphard, Merz and all =) The gear knob is at the right place and level, feel much more comfortable to operate when the armrest is down. Foot operated-parking brake and gear shift level on instrument panel is only available for Auto, those in manual just look exactly like what Myvi manual has now.

    Seats in leather, kinda comfort for a bigass like me, with seat leveling (only on driver side). Get down from the car…the "THUD" when closing the door comfirm more solid then any other Perodua cars ever made. Trust me, it's much more solid.

    Then i went to the 2nd row of seat, cupholders for the rear passengers was built in to the armrest, with side pocket at the bottom. Im 175cm tall, no problem for me, decent amount of legroom, don't expect a corridor for you to go in and out lah.

    And then i climbed to the 3rd row of seat… Hmm, ok, gotta admit it was a bit hard for me to climb into it, need a little more effort, just like how you climb to the backseat of a Satria Neo, just a little bit higher. Alright, me – 175cm, 75kgs, no problem, can fit another one more 'me' by myside. Legroom? NGAM-NGAM, at least wont sentul the front seat, left a space of 2 inch. Get the picture?

    Next, the boot space… Haha, nothing to be proud of here, with all the seats put right up, you left only half of an empty Myvi boot space, means 13inch depth. School bag boleh letak 4, 5 biji la…

    So, i don't think you can balik kampung with this Alza packed with 7 fully grown adults, cause you won't have any more space left for luggage, unless you 'ta-pau' all your baju in plastic bags lah, haha…

    But, if only 5 person? Yes, just fold down the 3rd row of seat/bench, then you can happy-happy balik kampung without 'ta-pau' all your baju in plastic bags.

    Hey, by the way, the 'bench' isn't that uncomfortable like what some of you guys say la, ok mah, at least got headrest…

    Test drive only available for people who already placed bookings. I 1st tumpang someone other people to be the passenger, then, somehow, i managed to get a chance to drive! =D

    Conclusion after being a passenger + driver :

    SUPERB!

    Power : Very good, with 4, then 6 adults in the car. The car still picks-up from acceleration. Similar like Myvi la, but this one more stable and quiet. Not much noise from engine even when revved to 4000 – 5000rpm. Maybe it's new, thats why.

    Handling & ride : Comfort for both driver & passenger, 3rd row not as bumpy as Avanza, but somehow some might feel the suspensions are too soft?? The car can take small hole easily. Cornering is stable, at least more stable then stock Myvi.

    Dashboard : Nice nice nice design. The blue backlite looks cool.

    There was this guy who tested the car full with 7 person on board says it was great and he still can feel the pick-ups when accelerate, then when straight in to the showroom and place his booking.

    Talk to a few young man and uncles, the feedbacks were 90% positives.

    This concludes my humble review. =)

    * 1030 bookings from all over Malaysia were placed so far after the official launching at 6pm. According to the branch manager.

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  • Better get the body kit and leather wrap from ah beng later. This model is overpriced.

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  • nazri on Nov 24, 2009 at 11:51 am

    batman inspired headlamp :)

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  • zaeidos on Nov 24, 2009 at 12:03 pm

    hurm~ not worth it

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  • JULIAN_LEE on Nov 24, 2009 at 12:21 pm

    PUKES ON THE FLOOR.

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  • SKYTECH on Nov 24, 2009 at 12:30 pm

    replying lo said,

    November 24, 2009 @ 2:25 am

    because it is perodua = daihatsu = toyota?

    Toyota mean price have to put higher lol . Malaysia people thinking is like this . Saw design base on toyota then all thinking is a damn good car .

    A RE BADGED car mean forever is a re badged car . WHY still so expensive . Can Perodua produce some car with their own design from zero to hundred ? Then even dun have their own engine , even alot people say campro is suck but still is own by proton after bought the technology from usa and come out with a campro cps upgrade version.

    Better govement revise back the Perodua , more suitable to call as Toyota official authorized then called as a car manufacturer which they never really come out with a car .

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  • wei, i tot MPV should have at least 7 seats?

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  • Master Mind on Nov 24, 2009 at 2:18 pm

    Proton mahu ganti kereta Waja lama

    SHAH ALAM 23 Nov. – Proton Holdings Bhd. (Proton) merancang bekerjasama dengan pengeluar automotif Jepun, Mitsubishi untuk menggantikan kereta Waja lama, pada tahun depan.

    Pengarah Urusannya, Datuk Syed Zainal Abidin Syed Mohamed Tahir (gambar) berkata, semua kereta lama akan digantikan dengan variasi dan wajah baru untuk meletakkan Proton di tahap lebih tinggi.

    Menurutnya, Proton sedang bekerjasama dengan syarikat kejuruteraan besar dan syarikat lain di luar kumpulan dari segi reka bentuk.

    "Kami mahu berkembang secara global dan pada masa yang sama, kami juga bekerjasama dengan pembekal pengeluar peralatan asal (OEM) global.

    "Teknologi yang digunakan akan lebih baik berbanding apa yang digunakan untuk Exora sekarang," katanya selepas mengumumkan keputusan prestasi suku kedua tahun kewangan berakhir 31 Mac 2010.

    Syed Zainal Abidin berkata, bagaimanapun, Proton tidak hanya menunggu untuk menggantikan kereta lama.

    Malah katanya, pihaknya telah memulakan program kereta baru iaitu memperkenalkan sekurang-kurangnya sebuah model baru setiap tahun.

    "Bergerak ke depan, kami berhasrat untuk melancarkan dua buah kereta seperti mana yang dilakukan oleh kebanyakan pengeluar automotif.

    "Kami mempunyai infrastruktur yang betul menerusi Pengurusan Program Perusahaan (EPM), oleh itu, kami tidak seharusnya ketinggalan," ujarnya.

    Beliau menjelaskan, pihaknya akan melabur dalam kakitangan supaya dapat memperkenalkan dua model baru setiap tahun.

    Mengenai prestasi kewangan pula, Syed Zainal Abidin berkata, Proton merekodkan keuntungan sebelum cukai sebanyak RM101 juta, meningkat 58 peratus pada suku kedua berbanding RM64 juta, tempoh sebelumnya.

    Katanya, peningkatan itu berikutan jualan yang memberangsangkan daripada model-model Exora, Persona dan Saga yang merangkumi 86 peratus daripada jumlah jualan pada suku kedua.

    "Aliran tunai juga meningkat melebihi RM1.5 bilion dan kami berharap dapat mengekalkannya dengan adanya jualan semasa yang amat menggalakkan," jelasnya.

    Tambahnya, Proton menyasar jualan eksport meningkat sebanyak 30,000 buah atau kurang untuk tahun kewangan berakhir 30 September 2010 tetapi yakin dapat melepasi 25,000 buah.

    "Kami akan terus melabur dalam pembangunan produk yang memberi nilai wang baru, dan mengembang ke dalam pasaran utama tertentu untuk mendapatkan pulangan.

    "Pada masa yang sama, kami juga akan meningkatkan operasi menerusi kaedah termasuk rasionalisasi pengedar, pembekal selain mengoptimumkan kapasiti," katanya.

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  • Not interested to comment on P2 cars whether there are good or bad as nothing to be proud to Malaysia.

    P1 news is more interesting to be bashed or support.

    Go P1, can't wait to see your improvement news with more advance gadgets.

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  • CyberSurfer on Nov 24, 2009 at 3:02 pm

    The price is to high.

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  • EchoTango23 on Nov 24, 2009 at 3:50 pm

    Dear Paul Tan,

    Hope that you can provide me a comparison between Myvi & Alza! I don't want to spend extra cash on just a little extra boot space! ;P Anyway, I am impressed with Alza!

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  • better vehicle fitting quality compared to P2 previous models as well as other national vehicles on the road. Special thanks to elite team QRE (Body & Assembly) for their expertise in ensuring fitting quality meets customer satisfaction. Go QRE……..

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  • 95% IR rejection, 99% UV rejection, 70% light for the front windscreen and about over 50% light for the rest of the glass – This is marketing spec. Below are some links on window tinting that is useful for everyone

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  • azrai on Nov 24, 2009 at 4:00 pm

    Rusa is the first P2 MPV right? Then what is the hype of Alza as the '1st' P2 MPV? Why the antenna is placed at the left side of the roof? Any engineering/technical explanation on this.

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  • learner on Nov 24, 2009 at 4:04 pm

    mmmmm, look like p2 really want to gain market share in 'loss identity segment' of sedan or wagon or mpv or c-segment hatchback like hyundai i-30?

    this is not normal action taken by p2 since they will normal comes with 'special' version quite longer time after product launch. this time they even announced the 'special' version so early even before delivery of 1st batch.

    is there any possibility that they announced this because afraid of people will hold the buying decision once again waiting for the incoming facelift persona?

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  • Lapis8 on Nov 24, 2009 at 4:16 pm

    perodua alza in spanish..i dun know wut the heck they're article about.

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  • skyro on Nov 24, 2009 at 4:17 pm

    1.5cc is not enough lol……the body is heavy …plus the people that will get in the car and extra goods…..also in the car….

    please la….upgrade the cc….it is better if it is 1.8 or 2.0……

    think for the long term……not the short term….

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  • amiro on Nov 24, 2009 at 4:39 pm

    design..back dated, no cutting edge line…boring

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  • alpha999 on Nov 24, 2009 at 4:39 pm

    respecfully speaking…despite any comments here….it will be the top seller for mpv segment….next year….

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  • nemo88 on Nov 24, 2009 at 4:40 pm

    alza is'nt msian proud..P2 just a proxy..why local vendor cant give the best quality to P1??

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  • scottloeb on Nov 24, 2009 at 4:50 pm

    Paul,

    Did you ask them why they didnt put the built in GPS as per TMC/DMC spec? This variant is pretty pointless, like asking Brothers to do that for you at a very high price. I believe they have the proper Fujitsu/Panasonic unit in the JDM, what they need to do is just ask. P2 Marketing/Product Planning, you failed us. If Proton, we understand as they need volume to create a special/niche accessories unless its China made, but you guys, the DMC part bin was like Doraemon pockets. Just ask Tsusho to bring in lah.

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  • cmc80 on Nov 24, 2009 at 4:50 pm

    i think its not welcome like Exora…

    bcause the setting…

    few years ago… suzuki erv had a same setting like it…

    and the price is too high… feel not worth…

    acceptable price should be range between RM 49K~ RM 55K

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  • arch747 (Member) on Nov 24, 2009 at 4:52 pm

    If u r in the market to replace your wife, get an Exora Basic and crash it, coz it has driver-only airbag. BUT dont buy Alza basic, coz if u crash it, it gonna kills u both…. xD

    good luck.

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  • Better than 'kotak' exora.

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  • arch747 (Member) on Nov 24, 2009 at 4:59 pm

    test drive only available for those who have already placed booking, am i missing something in here…? How in the world those other prospect buyers wants to be sure..?

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  • rally_fan on Nov 24, 2009 at 5:02 pm

    "the cost of incorporating ESC and ABS is only RM1250!!!"

    dont forget the millions you still need to spend on R&D and testing to ensure those devices you fit work in the right way.. there is no such thing as off-the-shelf ESC or ABS.. once fitted, it needs to be tailored to each vehicle as every car has different dynamics.. the car also needs to be tested to make sure it works on all surfaces.. gravel, tarmac, snow, ice…etc..

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  • is it just the Alza, or does every other car fitted with reverse camera sticks the camera out like that? look kind of strange. leather seat was not very impressive too so i would tell anyone interested to get the Premium instead.

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  • gen2lama on Nov 24, 2009 at 5:12 pm

    errr…someone mention full 7 adults in alza….cant't imagine how cramp it is…

    Just want to know….2nd row with 3 adults, 3rd row with 2 adults…..can somebody tell me?..

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  • Eyesore on Nov 24, 2009 at 5:26 pm

    gen2lama…

    mengQ is a perodua salesman la… you know it right? hehehe… can see from his comments… :P

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  • Synapse on Nov 24, 2009 at 5:32 pm

    FYI, Proton will be coming out with Waja replacement model next year, a "REBADGED" from the current Mitsubishi Lancer 2.0. As our car automotive industries is not bigger compare with the others, re-badging car is a solution to cost saving without spending too much on the R&D, that's is a fact. Nation pride is something but surviving and stay competitive is much more important agenda.Btw, Perodua owns by Daihatsu/Toyota…

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  • swiftmatrix on Nov 24, 2009 at 5:34 pm

    Hmm… Not exciting enough…….

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  • i think proton ezora is better than perodua mpv. i will get it after tubo engine already use to top up perfomance ezora.

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  • waklanproton on Nov 24, 2009 at 5:37 pm

    for me nice try for p2….but for sales team p2 dun compare it with exora laaa…that make u look stupid.

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  • overflow (Member) on Nov 24, 2009 at 5:41 pm

    perodua?… sucks!!!

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  • shaifz1 on Nov 24, 2009 at 5:50 pm

    Every post of af Alza has MengQ comment, suspicious its from P2 marketing.

    But for me, the leather seat colour is dull, boring and perhaps suitable for some lady driver picking up his son from school.

    Its not exciting like black with red sticthes or orange or more funky like Kia Soul.

    I mean for advance, why not implementing some sportiness, bright colour for the interior as the same goes with the exterior.

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  • at least better than proton i guess..?

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  • Ha Gnih on Nov 24, 2009 at 6:04 pm

    I say we should all go for VELLFIRE !!!

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  • khaix19a on Nov 24, 2009 at 6:08 pm

    front looks nice….

    rear looks boring….

    better bring in daihatsu materia…..

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  • charmiette on Nov 24, 2009 at 6:10 pm

    come on la… economic so bad now.. so expensive meh? want to trade in low cost buy new one, tambah byk… if cheaper auto i take la…

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  • Georgie on Nov 24, 2009 at 6:12 pm

    Nice detailed review there minQ, its sure good to have some positive vibe in than listening to the unrelenting negative thinking bashers.

    I been there to the showroom last night. I also find that this car is quite amazing for perodua. Its the same feeling on how proton exora change my perspective on proton cars. Hrmmm, I might be considering to take this car as my daily to work car. Nah… i already booked for my 7-day coupe Stream RSZ hehe :)

    I really like the build quality, unlike previous myvi and vivas. Just that the middle dashboard may hinder the view, as being a purist driver I really watch my RPM everytime I drive… however I like the driver compartment to store my bulky handphone and wallet, something i felt the exora should have had. The 3rd row seat may be quite pointless, the legroom is a bit small for an mpv but its okay if you wanted to have a 5 seater rather than a full 7 seater MPV.

    The design is not bad, slimmer than exora, so directly comparing this car to the exora is unfair seems that the consumer target is different. The front part is rather sporty, but the ass is unimaginative, same as the viva.

    Young executives, fresh grads, young parents give this car a try. Its a safe bet than other any other entry level import-brand cars in this country. I guarantee you its a nice bang for your bucks.

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  • delang on Nov 24, 2009 at 6:14 pm

    but y ha antenna on left side, not center?

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  • shawal on Nov 24, 2009 at 6:17 pm

    This sucks! not only its pointless, and overpriced , its showing a double-faced perodua management, what they should do is just make the leather seats an option for the premium model.Yes , you can retrofit urself (time wasting not to mention ),but normally, 'modified/tweaked' cars has lower resale value , cuz of the assumption of lack of its original parts

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  • shawal on Nov 24, 2009 at 6:19 pm

    drug addicts will nick ur bee-sting and ur reverse camera!

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  • alalalong on Nov 24, 2009 at 6:26 pm

    I would like to comment based on Paul's review that this supposedly MPV is more of a station wagon. What's the purpose of saying that it can sit 7 people if there isn't enough space for 2 of them and luggage.

    Better buy myself an Exora Basic @ 57k.

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  • ah beng luvers on Nov 24, 2009 at 6:30 pm

    we can get the GPS for price under rm500 nowadays..

    also the reverse camera with monitor can get under rm200..

    leather seats also can get under rm1000 full car maaa..

    so just buy the standard version and then go to ah beng maaa..hahaha

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  • ariff on Nov 24, 2009 at 6:51 pm

    dont buy P2, together we can put P2 to bankruptcy

    yay!

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  • ariff on Nov 24, 2009 at 6:53 pm

    malaysians Vs. japanese,

    malaysians will prevail

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  • makan makan on Nov 24, 2009 at 6:56 pm

    P2 should think beyond malaysia market i.e asean mkt..It doesnt matter whether they want to put D/T badge for the other market. P2 also can expand their factory, increase capacity and hire more worker hence feed more malaysian family. This i say as win win situation. P2 malaysian shareholder must strive for this. P2 mgmt…takk kan setakat local market saja..ambitious lah sikit.

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  • ariff on Nov 24, 2009 at 6:57 pm

    booking saja banyak,

    ye la, exitement of the moment la kata orang

    overyone is hyped-up over a new thing

    but how many have empty out their life saving to buy this 'kereta juga MPV' from our very own P2..the bumper manufacturer

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  • 20v_ke35 on Nov 24, 2009 at 6:58 pm

    P2 charging too much for the added value!!! If I want to buy this model, I go for the basic auto and add the extra stuff my self …….and still have some money to go for a 3 day-2 night vacation in Malaysia!!!!!

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  • iwan dani on Nov 24, 2009 at 6:59 pm

    Alza can sit 7; 5 humans and 2 cats.

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  • ariff said,

    November 24, 2009 @ 10:53 am

    malaysians Vs. japanese,

    malaysians will prevail

    _________________________

    Bang, u r comparing durian, right?

    Synapse,

    Agree with your comment. Purely biz and nothing to do with pride. Whoever wins the consumer wins the game.

    Want to talk abt pride, go support national football team, or "our very own" F1 team la..

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  • Annoy-namos on Nov 24, 2009 at 7:38 pm

    Nice looking car… buts somehow, im getting quite used to these kinds of designs. I want honda stream kind of flair (or Toyota wish) from our car makers.

    I agree with Paul. Comparatively, this is an alternative for people who prefer an MPV over a normal sedan i.e. its an MPV equivalent of a persona-waja class family car. A family of 5 (with 3 small kids) who can journey long distance in this MPV may also be "more or less" comfortable in a sedan.

    People who really really need an MPV will go for larger models NAZA-KIAs, Exoras, Innovas…

    Nonetheless, its cute and attractive with lots of practicalities to brag about as you would expect from a p2 and other toyota derived models… and people will buy it and enjoy its wide range of uses.

    Congrats for another car to come out of the countries stable.

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  • ericfoong81exe on Nov 24, 2009 at 7:40 pm

    Very good price for normal version, the premium version is expensive….of cause it is normal for "special edition"……

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  • razee hussin on Nov 24, 2009 at 7:55 pm

    although people or perodua said it will not compete exora…i believe most of us think otherwise…and i also believe thats what the actualintention of perodua..to compete with exora…that fact cannot be disputed when exora introduce basic exora to cater all possible class in mpv…which include alza…

    anyway…i think exora win in many aspects..size…practicality…price..though a bit underpower(according to some)…we r not going to have 6 to 7 people everytime isnt it..?the 3rd row can be used without compromising the cargo…but alza..pity…really kikis people's money la..perodua is no longer producing k car anymore since daihatsu taken over by toyota..in fact passo n luminas r identical but different brand…if that's the case…y not create a whole new full 7 seater mpv..make passo sette larger..or make new one to compete head to head with exora and put them the same price…that would be fair…then we can see actual competition and people are put in position to judge which product wins the duel…in terms of price…quality…features…after sale service..parts..etc…just like what vios n city r doing now..

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  • gen2lama on Nov 24, 2009 at 8:01 pm

    georgia….

    exora also have driver compartment maa.. just below the steering…enough to put yr bulky wallet, hdphone, smart tag..ect…it's hidden somemore…more safe what compare to alza….alza more exposed maa…

    dont compare la alza & exora….alza more to 5 seater with boot..extra seat is there when needed…exora plak…full size mpv..

    but exora also can be real 5 seater + bigger boot…extra seat (can split maa) also there when needed….even if only one 3rd row sead folded pun dah besar luggage space…

    yr choice…55k with no abs, ebd..limited space….vs 57k with 1 airbag…big space…just the fc a bit higer…

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  • Mysticmind on Nov 24, 2009 at 8:29 pm

    Exora wins.. handsdown.

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  • MengQ on Nov 24, 2009 at 8:36 pm

    Thanks Georgie! ^^

    Im not a P2 salesman, yet. Still studying in college, can click on my link and check it out. Im just merely sharing my opinion here mah… if good, i say good; no good, i say no good.

    Anyway, im just 21, maybe tak cukup experienced to tell you what's really good onot, haha… but i drove quite a lot of cars before.

    Go test it out yourself 1st before bashing…things like that is quite personal ma…

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  • the extras is really mkt strategy 4 p2. but i would buy d premium model n add on the ICE myself….as for the body kit……something wrong somewhere n i dun wanna scoop Tanah on d way balik kampung…. like paul say, better get Garmins…..leather seats is ok, but colour, maybe some will like it. personal preferance…..n door trims tak ada leather….

    why not just add 16" rim to make it SPORTY or RACY, leather like MYVI SE, side skitrs ONLY!!, chrome door handle, and lastly, HID!!!

    i wish the 3rd row seats ada A/C…..at the pillars….

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  • chiewwl on Nov 24, 2009 at 8:54 pm

    had view the new P2 Alza…

    i prefer to get a 'basic' model.. then goto my fav acc shop to 'accessorize' it…far better than the 'full featured' model which is expensive…

    ** one of the reason is..I disapointed the GPS unit is not built-in, which is very 'out-dated' for an OEM accessories. I prefer an 'internal' GPS+multimedia device which far better (and cheaper?) than the OEM ones..

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  • mpv ni jelmaan viva/myvi yang ditarik jadi panjang…… 'sumpahan drp viv/myvi…

    gd try fr p2… but overprice.!!

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  • I'mNoTofuSeller on Nov 24, 2009 at 9:09 pm

    Well Dear Rally Fan,

    I see the concern about spending million's on dollar on tailoring ESC & ABS.

    Alza is an exact copy of the Passo Sette. I don't think P2 needs to spend that amount of money in RnD at all. Even ABS now are mass manufactured by companies like BOSCH as standard parts to reduce cost. Its just the fine tuning and setting needed.

    Well, if anybody else who has a better understanding on how these parts are added into the package please enlighten us more.

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  • @ntiPerOdua on Nov 24, 2009 at 9:30 pm

    So disappointed!!! Absolutely Suck Car in the Malaysia !!! Don't ever call this car is MPV !!! NOT AT ALL !!!

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  • @nti@ntiPerOdua on Nov 24, 2009 at 9:56 pm

    Quote @ntiPerOdua said,

    November 24, 2009 @ 1:30 pm

    So disappointed!!! Absolutely Suck Car in the Malaysia !!! Don’t ever call this car is MPV !!! NOT AT ALL !!!

    ———————–

    eleh…blahla lu…hehehe

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  • carbonara on Nov 24, 2009 at 9:57 pm

    TOOOOOOO DAMNNNNNN GREYYYYYYYYYYYY

    *puke

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  • win-win p1-p2 on Nov 24, 2009 at 9:59 pm

    pelik… sebelum p2 alza keluar sume puji. lepas dah keluar almost 70% comment negative.. korang tak buat research dlu ker about dimension alza ngan jazz, ngan exora ngan livina and ngan avanza..

    aku buat compared dimension.. alza win defeat jazz, and avanza dari segi panjang.. lebar sama…

    cuba fikir kan.. naper korang bnyk songeh lepas pelancaran alza.. tpi memuji sebelum alza keluar??????

    sebab korang tak buat research.. tau ckp.. tak tgk secara overall…

    anyway, the price is too high for alza.. advanced premium…

    better wait for REPLACEMENT WAJA 2010 AND PERSONA FACELIFT 2010.

    i like ALZA, i like PERSONA. and i like new REPLACEMENT WAJA(hope ader gambar baru waja- bukan lukis pakai adobe… )

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  • antnagir on Nov 24, 2009 at 10:00 pm

    Pls explain.

    P1 sell high end model first then introduce basic model later.

    P2 introduce basic model first then premium later.

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  • win-win p1-p2 on Nov 24, 2009 at 10:00 pm

    to AZRAI…………..

    RUSA IS NOT MPV/…………..

    RUSA IS VAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    HAHAHHAHAHA

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  • win-win p1-p2 on Nov 24, 2009 at 10:04 pm

    MAHAL KER???????/

    SEBELUM NI KORANG KATER " TAK PER MAHAL, JANJI ADER QUALITY"

    APER DAH JADI NGAN STATEMENT NIH??????

    KORANG NI MEMANG PEMBELOT R…

    TAU KOMEN SEBELUM TGK DENGAN DETAILS

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  • Alza and Proton (apa nama?) memalukan!

    Calling it MPV…..yak!!

    Fake ( midget!!) MPV bolehlah!!

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  • CarkeyCrayta on Nov 24, 2009 at 10:12 pm

    Yuch! It's a loooong MYVi! That's all it is. And it wants to compete with Exora's Price? No way! Sell it cheaper maaa. Strictly for MYVi lovers only.

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  • gen2lama on Nov 24, 2009 at 10:14 pm

    wonder how many would go for 'basic alza'?

    no ebd/ebd & airbag…if the sales of basic is WOW, means that no point for basher to bash proton for producing based exora with no, no, no, no, no,,,,,,

    but yes – 1 airbag….

    malaysian market maa…..who really care about their family safety?…

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  • For heaven sake please don't call Exora and Elza a MPV.!!

    Don't cheat the naive kampong people.

    Exora and Elza more like a van dressed up to imitate a MPV.

    kah, kah ka.

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  • alalalong on Nov 24, 2009 at 10:42 pm

    Perodua oh perodua… I think you can do better than this and provide us the ordinary rakyat with a proper MPV. But how wrong I am.

    In this era of alternative fuel, this is what we get for paying our hard earned money for so many years.

    When can we expect to get a quality vehicle like City/Civic/Wish/Stream from our own national vehicle manufacturer. Not in my lifetime I suppose.

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  • squawk on Nov 24, 2009 at 11:10 pm

    They should've made the Advanced version with roof rack. If you have 7 passengers where are you going to put the luggage or shopping bags?

    This car is only practical for short trips to go makan, light shopping or car pool to office.

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  • This is not a f**king great invention of all, but this advertising gimmick of driving a batch of Perodua in City centre with annoying sirens and out riders and etc during peak hours. Really piss so many people. This is not even any emergency. On what ground that a car company can bypass all legislation and act as they wish? Donation really that matter to Police force?

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  • ktas09 on Nov 24, 2009 at 11:19 pm

    Look from back just like KAMBING!!!! bEEKKK

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  • satria_Neo on Nov 24, 2009 at 11:35 pm

    in reality most of the buyers of this alza are ex perodua user and ex proton user who are fed up with their previous car quality issue.

    when savvy and myvi come out..people always compare this 2 cars,

    in this forum, i saw most of them will bashed the Myvi..copycat la..big butt la..but in the end u guys can see who have the major sales…i never saw any Savvy with new registration here in seremban since Aug 2009. but Myvi..its A LOT..sometime i do get bored at the traffic light..look left – Myvi..look right oso myvi..

    people here can say about all the technical – handling aspect but in real life reality the sales figure will tell us…

    a bad experience with a car brand that you owned will haunted almost forever.

    Me myself at my 38 of age have owned 2 P1, and the "wonderfull" experience have haunted me and although i admitted their quality is getting better..but for me enough is enough.

    Fan boy will always praised their prefered brand, im not a fan boy. i will get anything that inline with my expectations and budget.

    Im not againts any P1 car..no..i very keen to have a satria neo (just like my nick) for my wife kenari replacement..i like it very much..the design and handling..but the Quality issue still fresh in my mind..

    i believe this Alza will repeat the Myvi success story…although it may surpassed the expectation people in paul tan.org, but it will certainly please majority of malaysian.

    Congratulation Perodua.

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  • Angela Ang on Nov 24, 2009 at 11:42 pm

    Not much here except for the leather seats. I would go for the premium version, slap my own body kit (which will come soon enuf), buy my own gps system, send it out for tints and leather seats outside … hah!

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  • sparkoeng on Nov 24, 2009 at 11:50 pm

    Where's the gate type shifter?

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  • looks good so far

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  • LOVE the ALZA…the price is not dat expensive…

    Yeay!!!!! definitely i'll buy ALZA…dun care lah wat people say as long as im happy wit it…Exora, it's so spacious, but, the design x lawa(mcm dugong-sorry guys)…lalalalala… :)

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  • azroy on Nov 24, 2009 at 11:59 pm

    bagi saya alza lebih sesuai bagi mereka yang baru mempunyai anak ramai yang masih kecil.saya sendiri mempunyai sebuah viva. kualiti yang dihasilkan oleh perodua sebenarnya tidak boleh dipertikaikan. lihat sahaje dijalan jalan raya kebanyakan atau hampir semua kereta yang brake down terdiri dari kereta kereta model terbaru keluaran proton oleh itu dimanakah kualiiti yang digembar-gemburkan oleh p1…………..lu pkr lah sendiri

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  • Jebauk on Nov 25, 2009 at 12:08 am

    Sepatutnyer Produa dan Naza boleh keluarkan model yang lebih baik (contohnyer 1.8cc ke atas) dari yang ada sekarang – pasal U'll tukau namer ajer bukannya buat design sendiri….

    Harga pulak patutnya sekitar RM45K – RM50K sahaja sebab xde cost design cuma pasang & tukau jenama…

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  • Tiadaid on Nov 25, 2009 at 12:57 am

    satria_Neo said,

    November 24, 2009 @ 3:35 pm

    when savvy and myvi come out..people always compare this 2 cars,

    in this forum, i saw most of them will bashed the Myvi..copycat la..big butt la..but in the end u guys can see who have the major sales…

    ————

    Sales alone is not a measure on the car's good or not, especially here in Malaysia where many are just blinded by the badge factor. I've driven the Savvy & MyVi, and I'd purchase the Savvy anytime. I wouldn't want the Myvi even if it was given to me for free!

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  • albinoPangasius on Nov 25, 2009 at 12:57 am

    believe me

    this will be selling like a hot cakes..

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  • hmmm…but still the ALZA…nak beli WISH x mampu babe! memang ler besh banget WISH, STREAM, and all those overseas cars…but wit the price 55k – 65k ALZA is d best…now im driving MyVi SE…best! rasa tanak tukar je keta, but the problem is money…have to tolak the car to buy new ALZA…next time, when my no of cild grow bigger(at dat time both of us dh jadik boss-InsyaAllah)can afford to by overseas MPV ke??? :) :) :)

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  • madimat1 on Nov 25, 2009 at 1:00 am

    azroy said,

    November 24, 2009 @ 3:59 pm

    …..saya sendiri mempunyai sebuah viva. kualiti yang dihasilkan oleh perodua sebenarnya tidak boleh dipertikaikan…… kebanyakan atau hampir semua kereta yang brake down terdiri dari kereta kereta model terbaru keluaran proton oleh itu dimanakah kualiiti yang digembar-gemburkan oleh p1…………..lu pkr lah sendiri

    ———————————

    bro,

    1) please provide facts and numbers.

    2) AND please drive your VIVA carefully because,… if something goes wrong on the road you only depends on your VIVA bodyshell to keep you (and your family for that matter) safe.

    Take care.

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  • Eyesore on Nov 25, 2009 at 1:17 am

    azroy said,

    November 24, 2009 @ 3:59 pm

    bagi saya alza lebih sesuai bagi mereka yang baru mempunyai anak ramai yang masih kecil.saya sendiri mempunyai sebuah viva. kualiti yang dihasilkan oleh perodua sebenarnya tidak boleh dipertikaikan. lihat sahaje dijalan jalan raya kebanyakan atau hampir semua kereta yang brake down terdiri dari kereta kereta model terbaru keluaran proton oleh itu dimanakah kualiiti yang digembar-gemburkan oleh p1…………..lu pkr lah sendiri

    ————————————–

    Bro… think b4 you talk… I've seen a lot of NEW perodua cars breakdown (NOT brake down) at highways… also seen a few newly registered BWMs n Mercs breakdown at the side of the road… so should i call BMW n Merc lousy quality??? Cars durability and reliability does not only depends on the design n quality.. it largely depends on how u take care your car and how you decide to drive ur car… like a human or like a monkeys… Stupid!

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  • ariff on Nov 25, 2009 at 1:22 am

    crash test.

    Alza and Exora crash head on at 50kph

    ..

    anyone in favor say "aye!"

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  • NICE.. but price.. ummmm little bit mahal la… better take naza citra.. emmm

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  • have checked it this morning.

    For the Alza Hi-end, I wonder how the passenger side airbag will deploy.

    I could not find any location of the airbag enclosure.

    does anybody have any info?.

    the salesmen (yes.. I asked more than one) also cannot give me the answer.

    .

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  • @ntiPerOdua on Nov 25, 2009 at 1:39 am

    Only for the ppl won't care their life & safety will buy this kind of stupid car……. Sad !!!!

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  • @ntiPerOdua on Nov 25, 2009 at 1:47 am

    SUCK SUCK SUCK !!!

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  • in heart on Nov 25, 2009 at 2:03 am

    salam, to all

    it is a horror talk and comment when the new things are arrive. y'all want to have a Toyota quality, what we have in our country is Perodua. Toyota is their grandfather and Daihatsu is the parent. P2 engineer's together with Daihatsu engineer's are pressing their brains, mind and 'kudrat' just to make this car/MPV live in the street of Malaysia.

    E'x P2 are scaterred around in this small automotive industries. It is a circle things, dont have to compare it. If you buy a national car, you a supporting our this small automotive industries. There's no need to compare it, Proton have learn their weakness and Perodua are just maintaining their good names. that all..

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  • sayapdewa on Nov 25, 2009 at 2:10 am

    the diff btween p1 and p2 is the quality. but p1 won the design…it is good to have p1 and p2…they will compete each other…yg untungnya pengguna la…:)

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  • karam on Nov 25, 2009 at 2:16 am

    You orang tak habis gaduh pasal kereta. Topik sekarang antara Exora dan Alza. Kalau ada duit beli sajalah mana-mana yang anda suka. Yang untung salesman kereta. Tanya salesman Perodua mesti dia kata Alza bagus, tanya salesman Proton dia kata Exora bagus.Cuba pergi jumpa salesman Nissan , Toyota,Mazda tak sibuk pun mereka nak kutuk lain-lain kereta. Pengguna pula terikut ikut emosi . Cuba bandingkan tuan-tuan punya kereta lain , mereka kebanyakannya menulis masalah-masalah yang mereka hadapi tetapi bukan kutuk lain kereta.

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  • cheapest mpv around…

    but perodua has missed out an important detail on the second row seats.

    the seats would not go forward when it is retracted to allow the third row passegers in.

    the seats could only be folded forward.

    as a result it prevent easy getting in or out of the vehicle.

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  • pennstater on Nov 25, 2009 at 2:24 am

    it annoys me when people end their comment with lu pikir la sendiri.

    well, many merc and beemers breakdown along the highways. nobody say anything about that!!

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  • sayapdewa on Nov 25, 2009 at 2:39 am

    now i know…both p1 and p2 do it well…it just marketing strategy..every car have advatages and disadvantages. it depend on people to decide it..

    but i salute proton than perodua in production design etc..absolutely 100% by malaysia…compared to perodua..haih..

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  • kanasai on Nov 25, 2009 at 2:50 am

    rubbish people talk rubbish. expecilly when debating between p1 and p2. so many rubbish comments and emotional comments flying around, either from p1 supporters or p2 supporters. from the comments u can actually know who is well educated and who is not.

    btw, i support both p1 and p2.

    hahahhaha :D

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  • AwAnG-Gt (Member) on Nov 25, 2009 at 3:16 am

    test drive done.power ok,but when member sit full row emm..heavy lar.rpm 3++ at 58km/h.the leather seat so soft like just like the pasang one,that u can buy at the accesory shop.wat i like is the lakatoo navigator.why exora dont have??exora should have one cause the size much bigger than alza.beside waz alza mean??for me sound like the arabic..Al…Za…but i dont know watz it mean..the last row seat cannot lar..my friend bring his form2 children also lekat at the door,plp who seat in the middle row also sakit one..when plp wan to seat the last row an pull the middle seat…the leg stuck..i think the alza is a car..not more then a mpv..for me?im getting the exora.that is truely mpv..or maybe if i hit jackpot…i go for honda new stream..

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  • AwAnG-Gt (Member) on Nov 25, 2009 at 3:23 am

    yup before i forget,did alza have a crash test?why i didnt see it a the broucher and at the p2 showroom..i mean the video??if got euro wat?like the exora crash test is euro3 if im not mistaken..life is berharga so…kalau nyawa terbang apa2 mpv pun tak da beli…

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  • Proud Malaysian on Nov 25, 2009 at 3:27 am

    Huh well..when toyota launch Avanza with 1.3cc.. with price of bla bla bla… people still go and buy for it.. saying that its one of the best kind la.. aper la.. then they upgrade to 1.5E/1.5G.. Then saying that wow factor is there when toyota upgrade the cc..

    P2 launch its 1st with 1.5 variant.. People condemn it like there is no tomorrow for the car!! For your information before Alza in our market.. Toyota suppose to launch it under toyota brand.. (i guess people will like gosh we need this car! its great lah.. bla bla bla..) Then perodua bit the design and won and get the chance to change it to malaysian made car model.. whic later they do lilbit changes here and there.. Toyota already have their Avanza in the market.. well they also not going to loose anything as they are among the shareholder of P2.. So either under toyota or perodua.. they still making money..

    AntiPerodua.. if you anti so much just go to any others country and stay there and use their car or whuts so ever.. People will still buy (P2) their products..

    Btw people have their own rights to choose and to compare.. malaysian nowadays not stupid like you who always condemn on everything but then we can evaluate it on our own.. – Low-Class Minded People = AntiPerodua

    "Harga pulak patutnya sekitar RM45K – RM50K sahaja sebab xde cost design cuma pasang & tukau jenama…" – well the company do have to pay certain fees for the design la.. its patented under the original owner.. owh gosh.. don't know about business lah dia nih…

    "Kriss"

    *For heaven sake please don’t call Exora and Elza a MPV.!!

    Don’t cheat the naive kampong people.

    Exora and Elza more like a van dressed up to imitate a MPV.

    kah, kah kah..*

    well kampung people not that naive like you! Do you know what exactly is MPV. Well the world have automobile association and engineering organisation and each contry can't simply built up and called each car SUV/MPV/ERV etc.. they have to follow certain specifications lah beb.. On top of that this design owned by toyota and like i mentioned earlier its suppose to launch under toyota brand but then we won the bid to own and launch it under our brand.. not bad at all.. and one more things is Toyota actually launch this model for low-cost market.. think and be a good malaysian.. Don't simply judge without a fact in your hands…

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  • nazri on Nov 25, 2009 at 3:31 am

    azroy said,

    November 24, 2009 @ 3:59 pm

    bagi saya alza lebih sesuai bagi mereka yang baru mempunyai anak ramai yang masih kecil.saya sendiri mempunyai sebuah viva. kualiti yang dihasilkan oleh perodua sebenarnya tidak boleh dipertikaikan. lihat sahaje dijalan jalan raya kebanyakan atau hampir semua kereta yang brake down terdiri dari kereta kereta model terbaru keluaran proton oleh itu dimanakah kualiiti yang digembar-gemburkan oleh p1…………..lu pkr lah sendiri

    ——————-

    yelah member aku pnye viva no plet BJX viva 1.0 warna hitam.. dia dpt bbrp minggu lgi awal dari aku.. hari jumaat lepas aku tumpang g smbhyg jumaat nek viva dia.. giler gegar tombol gear dia macam enjin nak tanggal pn ada.. pastu pintu dgn bumbung time hujan tak degar langsung bunyik radio.. hehe.. pastu aku suh dia wat sound proof kat body panel viva dia, 2 layer pn dah ok la aku cakap..

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  • P2 very2 reliable…many will agree, me too (as history will speaks for this brand). Economic…l couldn't agree more (imagine to compare light and heavier car).

    How about safety? P2 l guess trailing Proton in this department. Your money your choice and your preferences will decide your attribute in the selection. Most will go for reliability and economic for many reasond.

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  • Proud Malaysian Prod on Nov 25, 2009 at 4:00 am

    WELL i bought a continental car last 2 years and it gives me lots of problems.. Then i just make it kereta pegi pasar.. Then i bought another 2 MALAYSIAN Car.. from P1 and P2.. Its better than what people said about it.. 1 for my mom and 1 for me.. Even my mom love to drive her P2 instead of her own volvo s80..

    Of course if i wanna buy merc or bmw's i can do that but whuts wrong if just using a malaysian car..

    Well typical malaysian who can't afford to buy such cars who always condemn about another..

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  • Proud Malaysian Prod on Nov 25, 2009 at 4:05 am

    yup. agree with karl

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  • hahahaha atlast semua tgk dah spesis klon keluaran perodua bukan anti tapi realiti nya what is malaysia on this vehical… nothing nothing proton no mather what just keep on going develope ur on car n identity, due to price not worth lah to buy… ass all the comment i read the one with detail spec comment one thig i dont like about MPV no matter how many seat are there in the MPV still u cannot keep much luggage at the back… aiyoh kene jugak letakkat kaki passenger… better sedan car lah but kalau balik kampun u just use one bag enough lah… compare price MPV n MYVI adeh new MYVI 5000 unit tu bapak ler mahei tak berbaloi tol wahha gile 51k ermmm beli kereta bukan jenama bukan nak kondem other but u buy a car practicality is more important… but its all ur money.. can ermm cakap kete p1 banyak breakdown ermmm tipu lah P2 pun sama jerk aku tgk banyak break down tu terserah kepada pemilik lah reti nak jaga kete bagus lah kereta… nih servis pun mcm hampeh.. u sanggup beli kereta kene sanggup keluarkan duit tok servis sebaiknye.. so jgn lah tutup mata sangat pasal semua nih ader pro n con P1 n P2 exora is diffrent segmen of MPV lor gitu juga Perodua tu.. so think before buy.. jgn percaya cakap org make ur on research…. da

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  • Tiadaid on Nov 25, 2009 at 4:24 am

    AwAnG-Gt said,

    November 24, 2009 @ 7:16 pm

    wat i like is the lakatoo navigator.why exora dont have??exora should have one cause the size much bigger than alza.

    ————————-

    Exora already have DVD player oredi for the passengers. Besides, you can get a better Garmin GPS for 800 bucks, so unless the GPS is built in the car, unlike the one on the Alza, there's no loss in not having one. Not only Garmin GPS stand alone unit, Garmin GPS also available for mobile phones. Buy a Nokia phone and install…:D

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  • Tiadaid on Nov 25, 2009 at 4:30 am

    azroy said,

    November 24, 2009 @ 3:59 pm

    bagi saya alza lebih sesuai bagi mereka yang baru mempunyai anak ramai yang masih kecil.saya sendiri mempunyai sebuah viva. kualiti yang dihasilkan oleh perodua sebenarnya tidak boleh dipertikaikan. lihat sahaje dijalan jalan raya kebanyakan atau hampir semua kereta yang brake down terdiri dari kereta kereta model terbaru keluaran proton oleh itu dimanakah kualiiti yang digembar-gemburkan oleh p1…………..lu pkr lah sendiri

    —————————

    Buat lawak la ko ni…yelah tu banyak kereta rosak kereta Proton. Nak tipu pun agak2la!

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  • Pengsan-dua on Nov 25, 2009 at 4:41 am

    Perodua STICK TO manufacturing SMALL cars.

    A Disaster !

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  • Littlefire on Nov 25, 2009 at 4:59 am

    That why all the mechanic shop around this country can survive thanks to P1. Yeah! Just saw a Campro Waja went down by the roadside… Another timing belt putus…

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  • Head Hunter on Nov 25, 2009 at 5:03 am

    Hehe.. Looking at all the comments, I think no wonder we have people like this in the Parliament. All the same! Bashing each other like there's nothing else to do. Come on people, be more constructive and talk about the car and don't simply judge based on emotions. I do think that Exora wins based on size and space, but for build quality and appearance wise, Alza gets the trophy. Pity it's not pure Malaysian made. Cheers!

    Anang belayak bala kaban, kitai smua urang Malaysia. hehe.. Jako manah2 aja, auk!

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  • temakol on Nov 25, 2009 at 5:10 am

    MengQ, good info for comparison. This is what a blogging about. Data and info without bias. Satria_Neo, di Kuching ada banyak Savvy la…..it depends on the need of the buyer….di sini satu Kuching saja dah umpama sama saiz dgn N9. Maybe they prefer Savvy for a economical long journey which safer in terms of body and handling good for Sarawak's highways(naik turun bukit…tinggi tu…).

    Tiadaid, byk kereta rosak tidak smestinya keluaran kereta itu x berkualiti. Most of the case it caused by the user itself didnt maintain the car. And did you take into consideration(ratio) of the population of car per breakdown. Baru adil you nak keluarkan statement macam tu. Even Im using imported japan brand, Im not against local brand. Even my fren using Viva always complain about his viva…but I know, in any car manufacturer, there are defects…thats why there is warranty given. By the way, is Alza 5yrs warranty? Car industy standard now begin to giving 5yrs warranty.

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  • casey_c on Nov 25, 2009 at 5:13 am

    Hi Nazri.

    You are telling the truth. Ramai Malaysian tak ikut perkembangan kereta nasional. Last time ramai orang benci Proton kerana EON, tapi tuduh Proton. EON paksa kita beli proton dengan accessories yang mahal, Service center jual mahal dengan lousy service.

    Saya ada Rusa dan Proton. Komen saya:- Perodua Service center tak berhati perut

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  • keta baru semua best, kalau utk 2nd car n short distance, mmg best keta ni. Teringin gak nak swap my 2nd car. Saiz ala2 jazz, tp bley sumbat 7 org, family anak 3 kira cun, lg 2 tu bley bwk parent. Tapi rege kalau mcm myvi kan best, kalau dah nak cecah 70k, baik aku simpan dulu duit aku tu, pakai jelah kelisa cuore aku tu sampai jemu. Kot2 pasni ada keta lg gempak below 50k.. Baru aku rasa berbaloi membeli. Lainlah kalau jenis berduit…

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  • peroempat on Nov 25, 2009 at 5:24 am

    And very thanks to porton, Perodua become a very best sell and worth ever in Malaysia.

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  • Rrrrr on Nov 25, 2009 at 5:30 am

    This car is the longest wheelbase in the world… tak boleh lowered la.. confirm sangkut kalau lalu kat bonggol..

    Read a features in KOSMO, 3 step for door opening purposely to avoid from dented to others car at parking lot. Not sure practical or not.. but this is good idea from P2. I have a lot of experience in the car park..

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  • tttuuuutttt on Nov 25, 2009 at 6:02 am

    MPV ke????mcm lori sampah je adalah

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  • ku alia on Nov 25, 2009 at 6:18 am

    hehe…tak mo bising2 ma…semua keleta balu ok punya …ade luit meli la….

    kalau tarak puas hati… bikin keleta sendiri la..ikut selera ok..tiam2 suda la….haiya…

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  • razoraz on Nov 25, 2009 at 6:25 am

    practical, plastic quality got better than myvi, minimalis, 2 in 1 function and value 4 money. after u buy, then change the P2 emblem to TOYOTA!

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  • dudu.. on Nov 25, 2009 at 6:30 am

    pasai keleta mau gado..kalu lg gado,naik keleta lembu aja meyh…lg syok oo…ini olang sume atas manyak komplen pasai ALZA..tpi itu keleta ala beli ka??biar dia jual mahai ma…lu cari keleta mulah2….jgn mising2 sini..

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  • crossover on Nov 25, 2009 at 6:52 am

    I agree with Proud Malaysian Product , if you all have extra money go a head to NAZA world, Mutiara Motor or get any tuning cars like IMPUL, Brabus, Lexus or get supercar or sportcar… But i think all people " yang cakap banyak kutuk2 " but at last still buy malaysian cars…. if you don't know what MPV, SUV or any type of cars means.. Jangan Cakap banyaklah.. it is correct?.. ape2 kereta pun tak kira lah continental atau local, kalau dah driver yang bawa noob.. tersadai gak tepi jalan… lagi banyak spend duit untuk kereta, lagi selesa lah nak drive.. jgn fikir spend bawah 50K boleh dapat function macam steptronic atau tiptronic.. macam makan juga, kalo spend setakat RM 1 ke 2 dapat nasi lemak je lah.. Tepuk dada tanya selera.. mungkin ade yang tak setuju tp fikirlah sendiri

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  • Abe Din on Nov 25, 2009 at 6:57 am

    Doh gi tengok di showroom… takdo apa pa yang menarik… kereta kecil je ni… naik 7 orang barang tak tau nak letak mana…

    mungkin akan berakhir seperti Perodua RUSA…

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  • Just want to say a few words. in recent years, after Datuk Syed Zainal Abidin Mohamed Tahir left P2 for P1, it seems that P2 cars got much more expensive (meaning ridiculously priced) … P2 cars are no longer labeled affordable from my own opinion. look at their kembara replacement….goodness!!!

    Why can't P2 priced their new so-called MPV below RM60k? well, it's because their MYVI is already RM50k+, how could they priced something at similar range to MYVI? That means they never thought of selling anything affordable nowadays….they are targeting at a middle income group already…on the other hand, P1 is getting better. Well, their cars – built quality is still a question mark for all, the pricing strategy is very good. Many people and workshop owners suggest not to get the Exora because how is it possible to carry such weight with a 1.6 engine? Maybe we can't notice the problem since the engine is still new, just wait for another 2 years….well, up to the buyer to judge….

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  • little fire, yg rosak tu sebab owner x tukar timing belt ikut recommendation dia. saya taula sebab saya pkai waja campro. ini kisah benar, kawan saya pakai gen2, sama tahun dgn waja saya. tapi bile naik kete saya, dia terkejut, dia tanya,apsal kete enjin x gegar n x kasar mcm kete dia? dia tanya penah x overheating? saya ckp xpenah. bile check balik, dia anto servis 3 kali yg percume je kat p1, yg lain, kedai ah beng, radiatorpun pakai air je. dia ckp ah beng recomend pakai air je. saya ckp, itulah pasal enjin overheating n kasar n gegar. saya xpernah hantar servis luar, sume p1 sc n pkai coolant original(yg sesuai, bukan beli yg kat shell@petronas, itu coolant untuk kete nippon). setakat ni, kemuncak genting highland, bukit tinggi dah byk kali terokai, savvy mahupun waja campro yg cikai, xpernah overheat ataupun temperaturea naik walupun sedikit.

    Bg yg duduk ktn, bukit beirut telah ku jajahi dengan full load, xda masalah walupun hanya savvy n waja bukan cps.

    sekian

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  • little fire, yg rosak tu sebab owner x tukar timing belt ikut recommendation dia. saya taula sebab saya pkai waja campro. ini kisah benar, kawan saya pakai gen2, sama tahun dgn waja saya. tapi bile naik kete saya, dia terkejut, dia tanya,apsal kete enjin x gegar n x kasar mcm kete dia? dia tanya penah x overheating? saya ckp xpenah. bile check balik, dia anto servis 3 kali yg percume je kat p1, yg lain, kedai ah beng, radiatorpun pakai air je. dia ckp ah beng recomend pakai air je. saya ckp, itulah pasal enjin overheating n kasar n gegar. saya xpernah hantar servis luar, sume p1 sc n pkai coolant original(yg sesuai, bukan beli yg kat shell@petronas, itu coolant untuk kete nippon). setakat ni, kemuncak genting highland, bukit tinggi dah byk kali terokai, savvy mahupun waja campro yg cikai, xpernah overheat ataupun temperaturea naik walupun sedikit.

    Bg yg duduk ktn, bukit beirut telah ku jajahi dengan full load, xda masalah walupun hanya savvy n waja bukan cps.

    sekianz

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  • mockviper (Member) on Nov 25, 2009 at 7:38 am

    dudu.. said,

    pasai keleta mau gado..kalu lg gado,naik keleta lembu aja meyh…lg syok oo…ini olang sume atas manyak komplen pasai ALZA..tpi itu keleta ala beli ka??biar dia jual mahai ma…lu cari keleta mulah2….jgn mising2 sini.

    —–>

    lu ingat keleta lembu manyak murah ka? mau2 satu juta ringgit oooo.. itu lamborghini mahal..tp mmg syiok ooo…

    ………..

    crossover said,

    jgn fikir spend bawah 50K boleh dapat function macam steptronic atau tiptronic..

    ——>

    boleh je, savvy AMT kan ade…

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  • amiye on Nov 25, 2009 at 8:02 am

    Exora even better than this. .

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  • mun molah keta, molah la bait sikit… Semalam aku pegi showroom tek nangga keta baru tok, aku rasa cam a/c dial ya cam sangat cheap bah… entahlah… exora gi bait

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  • exedy on Nov 25, 2009 at 8:25 am

    P2= fuel saving, cute, for ladies, quality

    P1= self design, handling, europe style, malaysian

    but both for after sales service very bad…..

    goodluck P1 and P2…

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  • boylosong on Nov 25, 2009 at 8:36 am

    overpriced…mende le mung p2 jua maha2 dari dulu pa lening…pade2lah letok arge tu. bukang sokmo tuhan wi mu senang wei. bringat sbelung kene.

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  • hmm, the gps is not built into the dash. thiefs may aim for it easily.

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  • Engineer on Nov 25, 2009 at 8:50 am

    aiyo, this car is exactly same as my vios G spec la. interior same, engine same, weight also quite the same, and the price is 15K cheaper(toyota give me 5k discount). sakit hati la after buying vios. alza owner should feel proud of this car.

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  • wak gendon on Nov 25, 2009 at 9:07 am

    Berapa manyak version daaa……

    anyway prizes is to high ma…..

    Quality? gap tutup dengan sealant jer….kekeke

    Safety? only for anyone yg penting diri sendiri

    'indah khabar dari rupa' ade terdengar di showroom tadi

    better beli exora prizes lebih kurang jerr….

    sorry p2……

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  • LotusLover on Nov 25, 2009 at 9:33 am

    MPV?? LOL!!!!!! I mau pasang lagi DUA seat kat kereta Mini i … then call it MPV! wakakakakakakaka!

    most of the Malaysians kena study more about car. i saw some ppl here still talk about the CC, 1.5cc… alamak!!! 1.5cc can move a car?? YES, for Remote Control car. hahahaha! come on , should call 1.5L . 1cc = 0.001 liter.

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  • Wafaa Brabus on Nov 25, 2009 at 9:37 am

    Perodua Alza Advanced Version best

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  • amiro lup on Nov 25, 2009 at 9:53 am

    Proud Malaysian Product said,

    November 24, 2009 @ 8:00 pm

    WELL i bought a continental car last 2 years and it gives me lots of problems.. Then i just make it kereta pegi pasar.. Then i bought another 2 MALAYSIAN Car.. from P1 and P2.. Its better than what people said about it.. 1 for my mom and 1 for me.. Even my mom love to drive her P2 instead of her own volvo s80..

    Of course if i wanna buy merc or bmw’s i can do that but whuts wrong if just using a malaysian car..

    Well typical malaysian who can’t afford to buy such cars who always condemn about another..

    ………………………………………………………………………………………

    ..hohohoho…agreed with you…proud to have a malaysian like you…well,for me,i think if you want to brag and comparing bout outside car,you'll have to own both malaysian and outsider's cars at the same time…then only the comparison will make sense…somtimes "empty is full,and full is empty"….

    bout the typical malaysian thing,i agreed with that too…hahaha…

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  • kita pakat tunggu sebuan dua, biar orang yg pakai betul2 bagi komen..which one is value 4 money..

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  • ujangkluang on Nov 25, 2009 at 11:03 am

    for me…. design..4 star… but the price is over….expensive…actually buy avanza is better…sorry i'm not to condemm p2…but it reality…so depend on you to buy alza or others…. you think yourself. SALAM SATU MALAYSIA.

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  • kobealex on Nov 25, 2009 at 11:08 am

    gosh…. "advanced version"? could it sound any worst than tat? ei. woud u go BMW 5-Series Advanced Version? sounds stupid to me. its like a name taught up when aunties go pasar buy groceries.

    Anyway, I'm not a basher of P2, but I just kinda lost confidence in Perodua in the way they do things now. Like the Myvi EXCLUSIVE EDITION, it was obviously a piece of crap. And this one, the ADVANCED VERSION… how often do you see a special version looking worst than the normal one?

    like everyone agrees, better go for the premium instead of this…

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  • tkaira on Nov 25, 2009 at 2:53 pm

    haiya..these people do not read ka before posting..the engine is NOT the same as the one in the vios. its only the SAME like the rush,nutica and avanza ( Toyota 3SZ-VE four-pot ).but the alzas engine is almost entirely made in malaysia while the rush and avanza is made in indonesia. the vios is a totally a different engine..(1NZ-FE 1.5 litre four-pot) which an alluminium block IIANM..so dont go arround its engine is the same..haiya….

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  • HOONG on Nov 25, 2009 at 3:46 pm

    THE SECOND PICTURE LOOK LIKE SMALL AVANZA..IZZIT???

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  • HOONG on Nov 25, 2009 at 3:55 pm

    i think this is AVANZA facelift… thats why toyota dont care if their Avanza killed…

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  • kaOne2000 on Nov 25, 2009 at 5:27 pm

    dudu.. said,

    pasai keleta mau gado..kalu lg gado,naik keleta lembu aja meyh…lg syok oo…ini olang sume atas manyak komplen pasai ALZA..tpi itu keleta ala beli ka??biar dia jual mahai ma…lu cari keleta mulah2….jgn mising2 sini.

    —–>

    lu ingat keleta lembu manyak murah ka? mau2 satu juta ringgit oooo.. itu lamborghini mahal..tp mmg syiok ooo…

    ………..

    crossover said,

    jgn fikir spend bawah 50K boleh dapat function macam steptronic atau tiptronic..

    ——>

    boleh je, savvy AMT kan ade…

    dan naza bestari 206……

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  • zoomzoom on Nov 25, 2009 at 5:43 pm

    if the boot space is smaller than an rx8 (290litre)..pls don't call the Alza an MPV..buat malu saja…

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  • baPak on Nov 25, 2009 at 7:41 pm

    i enjoyed reading up all the comment up above…lol..seriously..remember when myvi's make its 1st appreance in paultan in 2005 (if im not mistaken)..?.i thought maybe it'll be the same, people like "whoaaa"..but yeah..

    after LE,SE and EE for myvis..P2 are making some people annoyed..anyhow..just goodluck for P1 and P2…goodwork…i wonder..will myvi's price go down after alza released? and also look forward for new waja replacement!!! sound like wicked kewll!!!

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  • epalhead (Member) on Nov 25, 2009 at 7:41 pm

    Cannot see the different with passo sette. If there is, sure very minimal. What is engineer's in P2 job did actually? Get paid high, then, what? sleep? then, drink tea? then what, chit chat a bit, then what? just make a Photocopy? Anyone can be an engineer then….

    Useless!

    Might as well invite Toyota to come in, and the current P2 plant to be used to assembled the Passo sette… at least we got the Toyota ambelem..

    It is obvious that P2 is not a national car maker. Assembler Instead and its a fact! The whole world knew it..heheheh

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  • Compact on Nov 25, 2009 at 7:44 pm

    Replying lo SKYTECH said,

    November 24, 2009 @ 2:25 am

    because it is perodua = daihatsu = toyota?

    Not really….

    Daihatsu + Mitsui got 51% share on Manufacturing while local had 49%

    Sales 100% Malaysia.

    Malaysian hold major share of Perodua….

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  • touchngo on Nov 25, 2009 at 8:11 pm

    the lokatoo GPS it seems the same unit supplier provide to EXORA owner laa….the software not so update after all….

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  • satria_Neo on Nov 25, 2009 at 8:14 pm

    epal head,

    we need a lot of not so well educated here for our light entertainment..a not so educated people are rare around here…

    hehehe

    go and do some research on why car manufacturer do rebadging …and why is Perodua / toyota willing to paid a gud yearly bonuses to their employee / engineer if they were useles.

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  • mamakminang on Nov 25, 2009 at 8:43 pm

    Aaaaaiiisssshhhhhh!!!!!!! Hapeeee laaa korg niee….. Hntm sna..hntm sni… Nk bli, bli laah.. X nk kaluuu… tok sah dok bnyk bunyiii!!! Haku ade kete P1, P2 & Toyota. Suma sama jerrrr…. cuma tengok cra memandu lerrrrr…. Wira, Kenari & Avanza…. Aku lbh plh Avanza klu nk jln jauh & kselasaan. Takat nk psng kliling & speeding, Kenari laaa.. Klu nk drifting, dragging & something lsk, haku bdl Wira!!! So, haku dh tngk & pndu uji Alza….nice P2 "compac" MPV…Kalo korg kate kecik, dah 2…"compac"!! MPV kaaaaannn….but 1 thing yg haku x sggp. Hrga b'patutn la….blnn….maaaaak aih!!!! mau 9 thn tu gak haku lntk ayor sejok & nasik puteeeh!!! Avanza haku oklah, but monthlynya pn b'baloi laaaa….Tlgleeeeee…..ush lerrr ckk drh…. Ade gk btolnyer korg kate, baik bli Exora…Mhl hrga…monthly b'pattn!! Anyway, sume jenama kete sma jerrrrr… Kalo korg bawak cm nk gilerrrrrr.. kete baguih pon break down…dh bwk cm beghok!! Undang2 memang fail punyerrr kalo dh pgng steering…. Toksah nk kate, haku sndri laaaa…he..he..he.. But, kalo korg jns syg rete mende, naik kete Naza Suria (dh 2 X haku saksi dgn mata sndri t'bkr) pon still o.k what…. pndu Austin pon still o.k….(atok sedara haku still have it!! Die maintain from 1967!!). So……LU FIKIEEERRRR LA SNDRIIIII!!!!!!!!!

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  • syafique_360 on Nov 25, 2009 at 8:51 pm

    ariff said:

    dont buy P2, together we can put P2 to bankruptcy

    yay!

    i'm agreed with ariff coz P2 not our pride..it's toyota from japan…

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  • MrDDR (Member) on Nov 25, 2009 at 9:20 pm

    kaOne2000 said,

    November 25, 2009 @ 9:27 am

    dudu.. said,

    pasai keleta mau gado..kalu lg gado,naik keleta lembu aja meyh…lg syok oo…ini olang sume atas manyak komplen pasai ALZA..tpi itu keleta ala beli ka??biar dia jual mahai ma…lu cari keleta mulah2….jgn mising2 sini.

    —–>

    lu ingat keleta lembu manyak murah ka? mau2 satu juta ringgit oooo.. itu lamborghini mahal..tp mmg syiok ooo…

    ………..

    crossover said,

    jgn fikir spend bawah 50K boleh dapat function macam steptronic atau tiptronic..

    ——>

    boleh je, savvy AMT kan ade…

    dan naza bestari 206……

    ————————————————————

    Dont forget cheapest of all……Chery QQ AMT

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  • KingKOP on Nov 25, 2009 at 9:23 pm

    how can you call this a MPV????

    it is just a beefed up Myvi with additional back row!

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  • Alza aka MyVi Bontot on Nov 25, 2009 at 9:49 pm

    mengQ said,

    November 24, 2009 @ 3:21 am

    mengQ said,

    November 24, 2009 @ 3:25 am

    —————————————————–

    Even P2 salesman have to double posting to ensure people notice about the 'greatness' of Alza aka MyVi Bontot Plus++. Complete with booking figures. Huahuahuahua.. So mengQ, what's the latest tally of booking?

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  • peroempat on Nov 25, 2009 at 10:07 pm

    I wouldn't buy a car just because of our pride, I only need a car.

    Yeah, protan truly realy of our pride XXXXXXD

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  • KingKOP on Nov 25, 2009 at 10:15 pm

    Maybe MengQ is speaking in his own opinion. But for that price, isnt Exora a much better buy? But I heard Exora is having A/C problem with one of the batch. Not sure about this Alza since it is new.

    Just felt cheated that they call this van as a MPV. you put 7 person in, you got no space left to slot in your backpacks. and for a 6 footer like myself, you think i will seat at the back with ease?

    Then you fold down the back seat, you get space at the back and it turns to a Myvi with bigger "Bontot".

    I have to agree totally that how a car performs over the years depend on how you maintain and how to ram the car. I have a WAJA, 5 year now and i spent less than RM1.5K on replacement parts/repair. thats because I dont take corners at 100km/hr or rev it up to 7k rpm everytime I go on green. Try that with a Volvo or beemers. RM1.5 can buy you half the front bumpers only!

    Anyway, do they clasify Honda JAZZ as MPV?

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  • gey2718 on Nov 25, 2009 at 10:16 pm

    Hey scottloeb and others always bashes on china:

    Pls stop to be naive to keep emphasizing 'made in china' goods = lousy.

    you know nuts about china, china will be the strongest economic body in very near future, they are the giant who has all the ability to do anything, don't close urself in a small box, try to explore more before bashes others, you get all the sucks china product because our fellow irresponsible business man who wants to earn money,

    stop off topic now, the Alza is another great move by perodua, at least we get another rebadge toyota / daihatsu quality design or product in our land, don't bother it's design by who, most important, the parts and equipments are made in malaysia, that's enough, WHY? create more job opportunity for us! the product relatively improved over years and this directly equal to improved skill level of our country,

    If Perodua suddenly wants to produce cars with BMW or MERZ standard, u think the existing facility or skill level of the employees can cope?

    so, give more chances and time to our 2nd national car maker ok.

    don't u know our nation is famous to be slower pace?

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  • mechanical (Member) on Nov 25, 2009 at 10:36 pm

    Okla Alza..Not so bad..But all Perodua Suspension sucks, especially rear wheel suspension..P2 use dependent suspension which is not a good suspension for safety drives..

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  • gaban on Nov 25, 2009 at 11:00 pm

    Takde langsung komen2 yg boleh di pakai…semua bab hina-menghina saje..sampai masuk bab kreta lembu…

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  • Automotive on Nov 25, 2009 at 11:04 pm

    Have to admit that Proton are leader in producing cars from sketches to real car starting from Gen 2(20 years after Saga) but some of their production staff need to change their mindset on producing quality cars.

    Originally, Perodua wants to learn on how Toyota Production System works from Daihatsu(anak Toyota jugak nih…).But I wonder why they can be too depend to Daihatsu itself for new model line, lately.

    On Mid of 1990's, Proton staffs migrate to Proton.But starting from 2006(after Datuk Syed Zainal joint Proton from Perodua), about 20-25 Perodua staffs joins P1 to give them some knowledge of TPS.

    May be we can see a bit improvement on their qualities starting from the BLM…

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  • rozie on Nov 26, 2009 at 12:27 am

    betul…kete baru semua ok. baiknya forum ni boleh dimanfaatkan..bukan medan emosi semata2. Bagi saya..bab essories…boleh tambah kemudian. Alva ni bukan 7 seatr ke? x byk lagi maklumat. Kalau cadangan…c.c kena la tambah sikit..

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  • after on Nov 26, 2009 at 12:28 am

    not bad for a wagon… however its kinda over price should be from 51k or somewhat since it lack of safety features and other goodies… Myvi still rock! although it felt cheap…

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  • obamaladen on Nov 26, 2009 at 2:07 am

    guys,

    apa2 pun, THIS IS MALAYSIA, nuthin much we can do…

    rakyat paid high price for a "ASAL BOLEH" car. thanks to gov for their rakyat di dahulukan TAX! ;)

    just wondering, how many CAN they used to make 1 car? :O

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  • HOONG on Nov 26, 2009 at 2:40 am

    gaban said,

    November 25, 2009 @ 3:00 pm

    Takde langsung komen2 yg boleh di pakai…semua bab hina-menghina saje..sampai masuk bab kreta lembu…

    ————–

    ya lor, when we critic P2, u said menghina.. when we critic P1, u said bagus.. izzit?

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  • ganz (Member) on Nov 26, 2009 at 4:41 am

    hahahah.. the most and hottest topic.. as always..

    if toyota bring this car to malaysia under their badge.. then maybe the with the same design people will say. "WOW".. ekekkek

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  • peroto avanza new face

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  • hiruma kecil on Nov 26, 2009 at 6:17 am

    hurm…I LOVE SAVVY… many,many,many,many people said savvy suck but I LOVE SAVVY… many.many,many,many people said myvi better than savvy but

    I LOVE SAVVY…. many,many,many people said savvy is ugly but I LOVE SAVVY…. BECAUSE i always tapau myvi and jazz idsi even city and vios and they cannot cium my asap pon coz kena tinggal jauh sangat… savvy is not a good looking car but good in handling,powerful,fuel saving(very2),AND the car is very kuat… that cost me rm300 to pay to kenari's driver coz bumper die jatuh bila aku TERlanggar kete dia… and bumper savvy aku cume calar ngan kene replace dua skru je….

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  • amwatchin (Member) on Nov 26, 2009 at 6:26 am

    ha..ha.. a lot of proton staff givin comments here…

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  • Zidane on Nov 26, 2009 at 6:32 am

    My opinion….

    From the pictures, it looks beautiful. Marvelous i have to admit.

    When i sat in it, it reminded me of the Juara.

    Not a car that you would want to go long distance in. But the 3rd row alza did provide (marginally) better leg room space.

    I was in a Juara going from KL to Negeri 9. There were 7 of us. My seat was the 3rd row. The experience was horrifying. I wouldn't do it again in a Juara. And i would not do it again in the Alza.

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  • Kereta Juga MYVi on Nov 26, 2009 at 6:40 am

    Sorry for asking….

    Is the ALZA first Perodua MPV??

    Because i'm sure that Perodua Rusa also a MPV, so ALZA should be 2nd perodua MPV…

    please smone answer my question..

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  • redxdevil on Nov 26, 2009 at 7:44 am

    Not interested to comment on P2 cars whether there are good or bad as nothing to be proud to Malaysia.

    P1 news is more interesting to be bashed or support.

    Go P1, can’t wait to see your improvement news with more advance gadgets.

    ————————————————————–

    i dun like P2 although my wife owned myvi se. still like my wira so much!

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  • Jarum on Nov 26, 2009 at 8:03 am

    Its such a shame to see us Malaysians blindly bashing products made in Malaysia especially when people from other countries are also viewing this blog. How are we going to penetrate our local products internationally when there is no buy-in in our own country?

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  • the fact is alza is not truly malaysian made,not like exora….

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  • JACK HAMMER on Nov 26, 2009 at 8:56 am

    amwatchin said,

    ha..ha.. a lot of proton staff givin comments here…

    _____________________________________________________________________________

    so, u must be perodua staff, rite??

    dont answer.. it will make u look stupid..

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  • still a hot topic.. kan this car ermm .. heheh lawak tol lah kite nih most of the comment on p1 sebelumnye kutuk exora now ermmm org perodua aku pasti tak reti nak jawab semua tu.. yang pelik rakyat kita nih kan terutama yang suke sangat tanye pasal cc engine kereta tau ke beza nyer.. technologynye ke main hentam jerk.. ekeke engine toyota pun bukan pure japan made in indonesia wahha sama gak using aluminuim block same as proton, haih.. alza kerusi tengah tak leh lipat penuh ekekek sengal exora leh lipat penuh ahaks…. sporty ape alza tu tak de best nye.. sama mcm viva jerk.. kedai custom pun leh buat panjang gitu … haih to KEMENTERIAN YANG bertanggung jawab baek hentikan perodua nyer produk lah.. kate segment tok kereta kecik dulu kan sekarang naik bulu lak lawan proton.. nasib ler proton ader identity sendiri… perodua nothing rebadge jer keje haih.. nautica tiru rush, myvi cilok passo. ermm aduih hard lah …pasal servis semua sanggup tok 3 servis percuma pas tu mula lah carik kedai murah mane tak breadown kete. cube penuhkan ikut servis kat pusat servis komplen lah semua yang rosak die akan ganti kalau ader waranty. tu pun kalau salu servis kar SC kalau tak haram ler dapat alat ganti percuma…(open our mind not condemt P2 but reality its not malaysian car,) plzzz perodua make our own malaysian small segment car,, jgn lah nak compete tapi rebadge jerk letak P kat situ…(GO PROTONNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN)p/s proton listen to your customer.. syed zainal plzzz turun padang listen to ur customer…

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  • car lover on Nov 26, 2009 at 10:34 am

    nak beli, beli. tak nak bli sudah. byk bunyik pulak.

    demand mcm2. pastu kedekut nak kuar duit.

    kalo nak save sgt, nek motor sudah.

    nak save lg, nek la bas, lrt.

    nak save lg, jalan kaki sudah.

    nak save lg, dok umah diam2. haha

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  • peYno on Nov 26, 2009 at 10:42 am

    prrrfthhh

    many ppl booking to get it before chinese new year… later.. monthly sales will be around 3~4k per month~and the best part is Myvi sales drop drastically.. this is Myvi Killer indeed..

    i know a lot myvi owner esp SE version regret buying Myvi.. just add 2k, u can get bigger engine, bigger cabin and extra seat..

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  • Automotive on Nov 26, 2009 at 4:28 pm

    Even Campro Cylinder head was made in Perodua.Lol.

    P1 or P2, they need to get ready for AFTA.Now they try to improve some of their vendor together in matter of Quality + System….

    Thats why MAJAICO was established from 2006….

    Don't be so proud when you have foreign brand car especially Japanese one because most off them were assembled on this region too(Thailand/Indonesia).

    As an example Toyota Wish, Camry, Altis and most of IMV models were assembled in Thailand maaaa….

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  • Alza aka MyVi Bontot on Nov 26, 2009 at 4:48 pm

    peYno said,

    November 26, 2009 @ 2:42 am

    ——————————————-

    Hallo bro, long time no hear from you.. Where have u been? Miss your 'prrrfthhh' tagline.. P2 fanboy beware peYno is back..

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  • gen2lama on Nov 26, 2009 at 5:40 pm

    ecah…betul lah tu..

    my proton 100% service by proton sc or wakil sc…and the car still doing good…alhamdulillah.

    mahal….mahal skit je…but peace of mind…..

    to car lover…i nak save pakai NGV….try la….lagi save & better than bawak i punya 135lc (will upgrade to er6F)

    naik motor save?…yes for – tol (tu pun kalau lalu jln tol hari2)..yes for masa (itupun kalau jln p keje selalu jam teruk)..but no – safety, no – susaha nak antar anak bini sekali…

    conclusion – bawak kete NGV lagi jimat dari naik motor (heheheh boleh sekali jalan hantar anak / bini sekali)..

    so….my motor cuma bawak p masjid je…

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  • biggiebro on Nov 26, 2009 at 6:09 pm

    CONGRATULATIONS P2 having spen rm300m in doing R&D to downgrade Toyota product, and getting all Malaysians to pay for it.

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  • Alza aka MyVi Bontot on Nov 26, 2009 at 6:52 pm

    biggiebro said,

    November 26, 2009 @ 10:09 am

    ——————————————

    Agree.. Hahaha..

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  • car lover on Nov 26, 2009 at 7:11 pm

    gen2lama:

    oho, btol gak. ngv pun save. tp kene invest masa nak pasang la.

    mahal gak ape. dahtu risiko nak meletup pun ade.

    naik moto g masjid je? bgs2. kire slalu g masjid la ni?

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  • hello all….

    I'm a normal car user n not a car fanatic…So i would like to share my view on this Alza…i've been waiting for this MPV for so long….n i thought it would be better than other MPV…

    1) Aircon Vent -> sebijik mcm new Saga. Why? dah tarak idea ka?

    the aircond vent for the side n middle different. looks so wierd…

    aircond vent only at the front row…why? its a bad move la…

    2) the aircond knob sooooo fugly… why that round shape… just like my stove knob la…

    3) Does it have autocruise?

    4) whats the latest technology in this Alza? other than foot parking brake?

    5) Sunvisor @ driver side doesn't have mirror -> should have since it targetted for women…

    6) why the signal turn @ the side mirror is yellow colour -> prefer white like Myvi…

    7) Sidemirror adjuster -> the design just like in my sister's old kancil . 10 years old design. why? no new idea? carryover saja?

    8) why need to 'cabut kepala' seat once u need to fold down the 3rd row seat? not practical at all… nnti ilang plak kepala seat tuh anak2 buat main… haiyyaa…

    9) Even in Exora they have some effort to put new technology such as gated gearshift & BCM… why p2 that have 'T & D' DNA does not have gated gearshift just like in Passo Sette? cutcost so much eh? C/O so much.. its like outside have very good design.. but inside very outdated technology & design la…

    10) the 3rd row seat… very not satissfied… should done better

    11) Why perodua didn't introduce any new colour other than thier usual colour silver, white… only the purple one look new for P2 car… but that kind of purple similer to Persona colour… please introduce more colour like exora did..

    WHy Perodua make this kind of MPV… I've been hoped so much n it turns out to be dissapointing me…

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  • taming on Nov 26, 2009 at 7:23 pm

    with NGV conversion, best as a taxi fleet.

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  • Alza aka MyVi Bontot on Nov 26, 2009 at 7:51 pm

    Went to Uncle Chips lair. Not many commenter left there just only regulars. But I've read one comment highlighted by one of the commenter there that really catch my attention (not sure whether is a selling point or not tho').

    Quote, "… in fact, the alza salesman is bigger in size than the proton salesman…" unQuote.

    Hahahaha.. The best comment about Alza so far.. Really make my day..

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  • azroy on Nov 26, 2009 at 8:58 pm

    yang penting hidup k-car enjoy k-car for your life

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  • amwatchin (Member) on Nov 26, 2009 at 8:59 pm

    JACK HAMMER said,

    amwatchin said,

    ha..ha.. a lot of proton staff givin comments here…

    __________________________________________________________________________

    so, u must be perodua staff, rite??

    dont answer.. it will make u look stupid..

    i'll be a fool if i dont answer you mr jack hammer…

    i'm neither perodua nor proton staff. But i must say, my 10 year old kancil is still good than my 4 year old waja. Wake up proton!! afraid of your own shadow.

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  • gaban on Nov 26, 2009 at 9:24 pm

    gaban said,

    November 25, 2009 @ 3:00 pm

    Takde langsung komen2 yg boleh di pakai…semua bab hina-menghina saje..sampai masuk bab kreta lembu…

    ————–

    ya lor, when we critic P2, u said menghina.. when we critic P1, u said bagus.. izzit?

    __________

    P1 bagus ka P2 bagus ka……sapa peduli..

    mane ada beza mereka dua tu….setakat design, kualiti, harga..semua lebih kurang aje.. majoriti org m'sia mh beli kreta P1 & 2…

    Kalu cakap pasal tipu customer..kita blh buat ape…dia org dh buat pun lebih 10 thn dh.. biar la forum ni, biar yg baik @ buruk, lebih kepada info yg berguna pasal Alza saje..cakap pasal Exora & kreta lain2 tu apapasal…kalu ni karangan SPM/STPM majoriti org dh fail..sb buat karangan di luar tajuk…

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  • azrai on Nov 26, 2009 at 10:35 pm

    Anyone who was thinking they get Toyota by buying Alza read here please http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/20… So, when will Alza gas pedal will be replaced?

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  • mmg la not all the time drive with 7 people but me alone drive balik rumah every day naik bukit at my house but my exora dah tak larat nak naik bukit tuh hows 7 poeple inside haaa

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  • my exora hari hari balik kerja naik bukit at my house with me alone pun tak larat

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  • Interior built is better than (you know who). Fabric material is about the same as other range, but the dark colour fabric is welcome. Presentation of fittings on display unit in showroom is better than (you know who).

    Not really an MPV, treat it as high-ride station wagon with extra seats and you will appreciate it more. And if one needed to space for full load very often. All passengers will sit more comfortably in the Proton. Question about enough power to pull full load better consider a mercedes bus.

    Didn't test the car, not really need to, not buying anyway, guess is another commute.

    I wonder the chrome badge on the steering will hurt driver when deployed, as per one funny post I read here somewhere.

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  • babamacho on Nov 27, 2009 at 1:48 am

    Exora basic is look like 'tong' ….. Can call 'tong bergerak'

    But Alza so impressive…..bro………..

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  • peYno on Nov 27, 2009 at 2:50 am

    finally paultan has revealed his review about DOWNGRADED version of sette.. very sad coz paultan can't make direct comparison with ORI version as his has no chance driving the ORI version .. unlike me… used to drive the ori..

    prrrtfhhh

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  • lexus_babe on Nov 27, 2009 at 3:43 am

    same fate as juara

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  • temakol on Nov 27, 2009 at 4:18 am

    naik bukit tukar gear from D to 2 and 1 la…did you? but for me, Exora too big for my usage…but will suit once Im married and have more than 3 sons…hehehe.

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  • persona_Gen25610 on Nov 27, 2009 at 4:53 am

    Kereta juga myvi:BETUL JUGA APA YG AWAK KATA hmmm…… ni mesti yg 2nd

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  • Tuyang on Nov 27, 2009 at 5:21 am

    Tai iko mung ni,panyi alek,ayen pekina,mung-mung kereta ka janan ilu tiga-tiga alek na.p1 atau p2 dua-dua tiga.Kereta yak tahan atau bik terpulang ngan owner,bo ia menjam jaga,tiga pi na.he,he arep ikok mung tisen inu ake piseu kini.

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  • wakeup ! on Nov 27, 2009 at 8:10 am

    alza vs honda freed (RM 100k) , exora only can compare to china chery easter ! Alza class is fuel efficiency , smart space.

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  • I like this ALZA so much. Why P1 and P2 can"t give rebate RM 5,000 for scrap

    old car now.

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  • Enginerd_2009 on Nov 27, 2009 at 8:42 am

    Kereta Juga MYVi said,

    November 25, 2009 @ 10:40 pm

    Sorry for asking….

    Is the ALZA first Perodua MPV??

    Because i’m sure that Perodua Rusa also a MPV, so ALZA should be 2nd perodua MPV…

    please smone answer my question..

    ——————–

    persona_Gen25610 said,

    November 26, 2009 @ 8:53 pm

    Kereta juga myvi:BETUL JUGA APA YG AWAK KATA hmmm…… ni mesti yg 2nd

    —————

    YA LOR… P2 CHEAT US ABOUT THIS…

    They didnt mention their failure RUSA and keep everyone forget about RUSA by announce the ALZA as their so called FIRST MPV..

    The truth is they already got RUSA as FIRST compact MPV…

    So, we know who is cheating us…

    Thanks to 'Kereta Juga MYVi' for query about this issue….

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  • scrwed on Nov 27, 2009 at 9:50 am

    According to Perodua's web site, its share holders include Daihatsu Motor Co Ltd (20%), MBM Resources Bhd (20%), PNB Equity Resources Corp Sdn Bhd (10%), Mitsui & Co Ltd (7%), Sdn Bhd (5%) then UMW Corp Sdn Bhd with a 38% holding

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  • scrwedagain on Nov 27, 2009 at 9:54 am

    Perodua is linked indirectly to Toyota. Although it might not be obvious, Toyota technology is passed over to Perodua, often before Daihatsu sees it, which is a 100% Toyota-dependent

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  • koni1919 on Nov 27, 2009 at 2:56 pm

    in rawang, there are 36 engineers from Japan to monitor the pilot run assembly. Battery 1, tyre 2, engines a few, all areas represente3d,etc.

    d other leading made-in Malaysia outfit, only 2 Japanse and few locals.

    quality cannot be assumed….and you all bashed bashed bashed///////////

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  • Gobuk Taragang on Nov 27, 2009 at 5:16 pm

    I have Satria Neo 1.6 H-Line of myself. Has been driving it for 5 years (tell you) and no problem at all. Infact, not even a single part of the car been replaced. As it a Lotus handling technology, you can even 'lepas tangan' and the car is still cruising straightly for 60-80 meter (of course on the straight highway) on 110kM/H. I did it, no cheat.

    Try to do that with Viva or Myvi… and i guess you will ended up onto the ICU bed.

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  • autojohndoe on Nov 27, 2009 at 5:25 pm

    scrwedagain said,

    November 27, 2009 @ 1:54 am

    Perodua is linked indirectly to Toyota. Although it might not be obvious, Toyota technology is passed over to Perodua, often before Daihatsu sees it, which is a 100% Toyota-dependent

    _____

    Mr,

    Just want to know what kind of technology that Toyota passed to perodua?

    I had experienced there in Perodua… The fact is, Toyota share their manufacturing system with Perodua… the technology… I cant find any that time….

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  • zamrihunter3879 on Nov 27, 2009 at 5:45 pm

    janganlah gado gado pasai keto,buat malu je!bagi aku alza ni comel je,so kita samo samolah tunggu diorang pakai dulu.besok kalau ado apo apo tak kono barulah kito hontam.kito tengok 6 bulan lopeh diorang pakai yo,sabaq dulu yo!

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  • GeramHati on Nov 27, 2009 at 6:33 pm

    Passo = Alza paham?!

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  • toyoda on Nov 27, 2009 at 6:55 pm

    p . ass – o

    wakakakaka

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  • Lee123 on Nov 27, 2009 at 7:32 pm

    For the current EXORA car woner, these are for you after the CHEAP and No-standard model is offered:

    THE P1 HAS SHAMED YOU….TAK MALU KE?

    " Pride owner(rm75k) one moment, Jatuh maruah the next(RM57k)"

    "Honoured one moment, cheated on the next"

    What a downgraded marketing technic? Lured the buyers with pride of owning a luxury MPV, then sell their prides by offering an ala-C20 van(can put in a lot of goods)

    ……………………………. hahahaha

    As a Exora owner, don't you feel ashame of owning an EXORA.

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  • theLITTLE_oraNGe on Nov 27, 2009 at 8:17 pm

    SO MUCH PERSONAL OPINION. NEGATIVE & POSSITIVE. CONFUSED!…ANYWAY ANYHOW….EXORA STILL ATTRACTED MY ATTENTION. JUST LIKE MY SAVVY, EVENTHOUGH MYVI CONQUERED ROAD IN MANY CITIES…ONCE I SEE OTHER SAVVY PARK NEAR MY SAVVY, OR OTHER SAVVY IN OTHER LANE WHEN WAITING THE TRAFFIC TO TURN GREEN..I FELT SAVVY SO EXCLUSIVE…HEHEHE…

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  • www.kenyalang.net on Nov 27, 2009 at 10:23 pm

    Apa la….dont condemn peoples la just coz of they driving P1or P2 car. Lee123, if you have Exora…will you ashame coz owning it? Or you will be too proud of owning Alza? Still the same lor….car that move you to destination. I will be proud if owning an Alza….if it is my chosen car….but dont condemn others choices. Haiya, susah2…better dont have any car…..then you'll proud with the buses….LRT…ERL…taxi…haha.

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  • why need to feel ashamed???? i dont understand what do u mean. even bmw has a basic model, even lotus evora has base model, is that a shame to bmw and lotus evora owners??? if u have the money, u pay more, u get more. if u dont have the money, u pay less, u get less. exora baseline is not the same as exora h-line in term of accessories n many more.

    are u living underground or underwater???

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  • bendan sagua on Nov 27, 2009 at 10:59 pm

    I just came back to see the ALZA at Perodua Branch in Bandar Baru Klang.

    At 2 of the roads, I had counted that 10 myvi at this road and 8 myvi parked at another road. I only saw 2 Exora parked there…..inside its show road.

    By the way, the no.1 urgly P1 car is JUARA(LOOK LIKE aLPHARD), AND THEN NO.2 is SAVVY…..with his buntut in the middle. The Ah kua in the town normally owned these car..

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  • bendan sagua on Nov 27, 2009 at 11:02 pm

    PRIDE ONE MOMENT, SHAMED ON THE NEXT………..good say…..I agreed……..

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  • leon123 on Nov 27, 2009 at 11:19 pm

    You should be PROUD if drive a P1 car because it equavalent of driving a LOTUS….stupid !

    P1 should be shamed of if the base line is to fight off P2 alza which is of different category, why not you people bash only Toyota wish, Estima which is of high spec…..to make yourself at least proud off……when the enemy is strong.

    By just downgraded the spec to fight off a small Alza, you should be shamed of……..the owner also lose face laaaa..

    Look further ahead….

    can't u understand?

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  • sunny- live in the m on Nov 27, 2009 at 11:33 pm

    AGREED 100%,

    MPV the moment, C20 van the next……..the exora bad line.

    I wonder if it stll can go lower some more….??????

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  • Enginerd_2009 on Nov 28, 2009 at 12:14 am

    Lee123 said,

    November 27, 2009 @ 11:32 am

    For the current EXORA car woner, these are for you after the CHEAP and No-standard model is offered:

    THE P1 HAS SHAMED YOU….TAK MALU KE?

    ” Pride owner(rm75k) one moment, Jatuh maruah the next(RM57k)”

    “Honoured one moment, cheated on the next”

    What a downgraded marketing technic? Lured the buyers with pride of owning a luxury MPV, then sell their prides by offering an ala-C20 van(can put in a lot of goods)

    ……………………………. hahahaha

    As a Exora owner, don’t you feel ashame of owning an EXORA.

    —————–

    i shows that u are absolutely blind basher. Vios got basic and others manufacturer also got basic model to be offered to potential consumer.

    maybe the BASIC line will become H-LINE with all expensive, branded accesories added by the owners…

    Basic line EXORA is okay, unless if u are P2 salesperson u will said not ok, right? The thing that Proton keep to their basic model is they still provide strong chassis.. then others accesories you need to add on later…

    But this ALZA make me confused, why the P2 just keep quiet and do not provide crash test as per discuss by previous comment..

    my assumption, they afraid to show the result… u all know why…DOWNGRADE version

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  • Enginerd_2009 on Nov 28, 2009 at 12:19 am

    Kereta Juga MYVi said,

    November 25, 2009 @ 10:40 pm

    Sorry for asking….

    Is the ALZA first Perodua MPV??

    Because i’m sure that Perodua Rusa also a MPV, so ALZA should be 2nd perodua MPV…

    please smone answer my question..

    ——————–

    persona_Gen25610 said,

    November 26, 2009 @ 8:53 pm

    Kereta juga myvi:BETUL JUGA APA YG AWAK KATA hmmm…… ni mesti yg 2nd

    —————

    YA LOR… P2 CHEAT US ABOUT THIS…

    They didnt mention their failure RUSA and keep everyone forget about RUSA by announce the ALZA as their so called FIRST MPV..

    The truth is they already got RUSA as FIRST compact MPV…

    So, we know who is cheating us…

    Thanks to ‘Kereta Juga MYVi’ for query about this issue….

    —————–

    TIPAH TERTIPU LAGI… ya aww aww

    -it should be ALZA official song…

    Exora, Menawan Dunia song 1000 times better for me… give me more inspiring spirit of achievement…

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  • Prismo on Nov 28, 2009 at 12:44 am

    bendan sagua.. then ALPAHRD is ugly right?? :D

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  • temakol on Nov 28, 2009 at 12:58 am

    bendan sagua; are u insane? comparing end 2009-launch exora volume on the road with myvi 06 or 07 im not sure…….what a bias comparison.

    but for full mpv, we can compare many models:

    exora

    rush

    rondo

    citra

    eastar

    innova

    stream

    wish

    serena highway star

    mpv 5+2

    livina

    alza

    avanza

    or even chana…..hehe

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  • autojohndoe on Nov 28, 2009 at 1:35 am

    Some ppl just dont understand… Lee123 to be exact…

    Proton rolled out the baseline, just to give the consumers they also have a model where 57K can get them a bigger MPV…

    It is not that, rolling out the baseline, later the hi-line is discontinued… If you dont know how the automotive manufacturing industry work, dont talk like u know…

    The way u speak… Talk like smart one moment, dumb for the next….

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  • lee123 on Nov 28, 2009 at 3:05 am

    why can't u , autojohndoe understand? P1 is like "sancai". Human have model too.

    Are you from the lower grade of baseline ?

    come on,,,cheap, cheap car for sale,…it is still a MPV and u drive like LOTUS……..if still no taker,…we can go further lower line…….can selll without air-cond , only use local fan(the one u see in a taxi). Can save the power…..no need wind down the windows…

    I am from an advance model….

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  • lee123 on Nov 28, 2009 at 3:07 am

    I am no P1 or P2 salesman.

    I am driving both P1 and P2 cars.

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  • sunnyboy on Nov 28, 2009 at 3:30 am

    No P2 salesmen are around surfing the net now…..because they are busy taking the Alza's orders…….

    Wonder if P1 "salesmen" are lepaking here and bashing with OUT OF TOPIC comments.

    Paultan gave us a lot of good stories here , but recently the comments written here are bad…

    sad,,,SAD..

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  • GeramHati on Nov 28, 2009 at 8:55 am

    Eh lepas tangn? kereta pun boleh rempit ke? sudah boring sampai nak rempit kereta ? betul letak kan neo engin dalam esora lumba sampai mati.

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  • bashbash on Nov 28, 2009 at 11:22 am

    kelakar pulak bacer komen kat sini..

    ape yg koramg dpt buat komen yg menghina pon aku tak tau la..

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  • Kamaroo on Nov 28, 2009 at 4:59 pm

    P@#$%MAK P2 Salesman…

    tipu rakyat…what u got..!?

    extra end year bonus…

    what rakyat got !? s@#t mpv…

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  • Kamaroo on Nov 28, 2009 at 5:03 pm

    where are the crash test result !?

    i ask this q's to P@#$mak P2 salesman…

    and the answer is…

    "even you urself can do crashtest bu ur own…"

    shame on u…p@#$mak u !!

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  • Kamaroo on Nov 28, 2009 at 5:16 pm

    lee123…u said like ur know exactly what "sancai" is…

    maybe its ur wife…

    better buy big, safe and convenience. if not enough, next u "top-up" laa..

    if u buy small, (cannot going bigger), if no crash test (not "sancai" pun mati lorr)…

    typical p2 salesman….easily detected !!

    see for urself…hardly to see people go to see "p2 market"…

    don't tipu rakyat la… we got this s@#t, and u got ur 5 mth bonus !!

    shame on u …

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  • hiruma kecil on Nov 28, 2009 at 6:08 pm

    SEE… campro engine is underpowered!!!! 1.6 ONLY MA…. very2 slow!!!! so lembab!!! myvai is better!!!!!

    HAHAHA3…. ARE YOU INSANE…. KALO MACAM NI PON MASIH UNDERPOWERED, HURM… AGAK NYE ORANG2 YG BASH PROTON NI SUME DRIVE FERARRI. PALING CIKAI PON MESTI DRIVE PORCH…
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNg7HopsN0U&fe… http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqjvxIEkxn8

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  • hiruma kecil on Nov 28, 2009 at 6:17 pm

    TOYOTA PUN SUCK GAK…

    Published: Thursday November 26, 2009 MYT 9:50:00 AM

    Updated: Thursday November 26, 2009 MYT 12:47:54 PM

    Toyota to replace gas pedals on 4 million vehicles

    WASHINGTON (AP): Toyota plans to replace the gas pedals on 4 million vehicles in the United States because the pedals can get stuck in the floor mats and cause sudden acceleration, a flaw that led to the sixth-largest recall ever in the U.S.

    The repairs are a critical step to restoring the reputation of the world's biggest automaker, which suffered a blow when the recall was announced in September after years of making safe, reliable cars and trucks.

    In plans outlined Wednesday, dealers will offer to shorten the length of the gas pedals by three-fourths of an inch (about 2 centimeters) beginning in January as a stopgap measure while the company develops replacement pedals. New pedals will be installed by dealers on a rolling basis beginning in April, and some vehicles will get a brake override system as a precaution.

    The massive recall is the largest in the U.S. for Toyota Motor Corp. The Japanese automaker had earlier told owners to remove the driver's side floor mats to keep the gas pedal from becoming jammed.

    Popular vehicles such as the midsize Camry, the top-selling car in America, and the Prius, the best-selling gas-electric hybrid, are among those to be fixed. The recall also includes the luxury Lexus ES350, the vehicle involved a fiery fatal accident in California that focused public attention on the danger.

    Spokesman Irv Miller said Toyota is "very, very confident that we have addressed this issue." Toyota has no reason to believe that there are problems with the cars' electronic control systems, he said. An electronic-control malfunction also could cause unintended acceleration.

    Toyota officials said the floor mats are only sold in the U.S., and the recall would be limited to North America.

    Toyota would not say how much the repairs would cost, but analysts expected them to be extremely expensive because of the work involved and the manufacturing of new pedals. Toyota also said it would provide newly designed replacement floor mats.

    Toyota developed a sterling reliability reputation but faced challenges as it rapidly expanded. While recalls do not always indicate poor reliability, Toyota executives are concerned about large numbers of recalls and have pushed for improved quality controls.

    In a separate action, Toyota announced Tuesday the recall of 110,000 Tundra trucks from the 2000-03 model years to address excessive frame rust.

    "Their reputation has taken a hit because the actual quality has taken a hit," said Aaron Bragman, an automotive analyst for the consulting firm IHS Global Insight. "That's absolutely critical for Toyota to get that fixed because that's the central pillar that they've built their business on."

    The recall involves 3.8 million vehicles, including the 2007-10 Camry, 2005-10 Avalon, 2004-09 Prius, 2005-10 Tacoma, 2007-10 Tundra, 2007-10 Lexus ES350 and 2006-10 Lexus IS250/350.

    The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration said 4.26 million vehicles would be covered, including new cars and trucks sold or manufactured since September.

    The nation's largest cumulative recall occurred in several increments during the past two years and involved 14 million Ford vehicles with faulty cruise-control switches that could cause fires.

    The largest single recall happened in 1996 involving 7.9 million Ford vehicles that needed new ignition switches.

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  • bosan giler on Nov 28, 2009 at 6:50 pm

    WOW… mahal gilerrr… P2 hanya memikirkan keuntungan ajeee

    orang ramai juga yg jadi mangsa… kereta kecik mcm tu harga

    besar… baik beli exora… 1.6 dan selesa… alza aku tengok setakat

    menang rupa jerrr, dari segi keuntungan guna, mmg hampehhh…

    kalau fikir nak bawak kanak2 boleh laaaa…..yg beli mestilah orang yang sederhana pendapatan, orang kaya takan nak beli… kalau dah tak kaya, keluarga besar… kalau dah ramai sumbat dalam alza nie…. aku klasifikasikan sebagai keranda bergerak….

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  • Driving School on Nov 28, 2009 at 8:23 pm

    To put more spicy to this forum, ALZA is only good for the people who just managed to get their driving license, but for the pro who need the good handling car they should go for the EXORA.

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  • eddie on Nov 28, 2009 at 9:50 pm

    What did P2 cheat you guys ? To me Rusa is more like a van and not an MPV cause the engine is under the passenger seat…so technically i would say the Alza is their first MPV. Even if they got it wrong…so what?

    Well someone mention they felt cheated with no space left for backpacks if you put 7 people in it. Obviously it's a compact MPV not a full size so what do you expect? You should be looking for Alphard or the Grand Starex for this case

    For 6 footer people , well common sense will tell you the third row seats will not be pleasant for you….so why not sitting either first or second row seats? Now Malaysian are average build, around 5 feet plus. I saw a makcik around that height and build could climb into the last row, i am sure most of us could. Just move the second row seats forward to make room.

    I think it is a great product. Not many of us are looking for full size cars. I prefer compact vehicles as it is easier to navigate and do side parking. Most of the time, when you see a full size MPV on the road, it is only the driver in the car and for me, it's like a waste .

    Lastly, no need to bash and insult each other. There is nothing to gain from here. Instead, if you have driven the car itself, just share your experience in here. Others will sure benefit from it. And criticism is good only if you have points to back you up. What i would like for our malaysian cars is to equip with airbags and ABS for their base model (lowest spec) . They should find a way to do this. For instance, if cost is the concern, they could just give steel wheels instead of alloy wheels, remove spoiler, fog lamps, CD player etc as these are items which we can install on our own once we have more money

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  • lee123 on Nov 28, 2009 at 10:27 pm

    Kamaroo,

    This is a typical P1 salesman bashing method, rude, repeat & repeat and bermulut busuk. Itu lah mengapa kau ini support lower grade of baseline….because you are from baseline…..of model.

    you think you can hurt anybody by shouting "P@#$%MAK P2 salesman".

    No…no….that proved that u are really from the lower line…..lol

    There is no P2 salesmen around here, as they are busy taking orders of Alza.(sunnyboy said)

    By the way, "sancai" is a Mandarin word. Meaning=non-branded company that copied one's product, improved them and sell them like hotcake. A lot of this sancai company can be found in China. A well known case is where in 2 week-times after the launching of samsung Omnia 1, one of the "sancai" company came out with an exactly look-alike model,even equipped with more features than original Omnia. and its price is cheap. You may find these "sancai" brand products in LOW YAT.

    Now, don't accuse me and say that I am a salesman from Low Yat,,,,haha

    Just want to clarify that I didn't work for P2.

    I worked for a Japanese company who produced automatic machinary,,,,,not related to any automobile industry. But many years ago I worked for Tan Chong & had seen the FIRST Proton Saga test car

    To prove that, " Kamaroo, your comments are "chimpun kampun".

    Chimpun kampun= simply talk rubbish

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  • LEE 123, i think u comments are too childish. the current exora is produce to compete with GL, AVANZA, ALZA…it is not not to compete with stream or wish. if u want to compare it with wish and stream, u shud wait for the end of next year or early of 2011 when exora prime to roll out with campro fe turbo and if i not mistaken the price will be around 85k++.

    the current exora is for for rakyat who want a big mpv with reasonable price and extra equipment that only available for highend mpv. if they want to compete with wish, they can use different engine from other company, but then, the price will be high. higher capacity engine price is higher. i give u one simple example, petronas 2.0 engine is cost around 20k, while cps is around 5k. if put 2.0 engine for now, the price will be around 90k, so it will not be for rakyat. the higher capacity engine, the higher the maintenance including road tax n insurance. it is the same when they select to put 15 inch tyre, not only to reduce rolling resistance for better fc, but the price of 15inch tyre is more affordable for rakyat compare to 17 inch tyre.

    when u produce a car, u must think about its target market. that is one of the downfall for mitsu lancer gt. it is a good car, have a good tyre 18 inch rubber, but do u know how much the original tyre price? it cost a bomb rm 1200 per piece. u can change by using a cheaper one, but the car handling will become worse, oppose to if the car handling is already good with cheap tyre, it will become better if u put on expensive tyre.

    it is not a shame for current exora because i believe it offer better equipment n many more compare to its competition such as GL 1.6, avanza 1.5 n alza 1.5. The only shame of the exora owner is people like u that has shallow mind.

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  • Prismo said

    bendan sagua.. then ALPAHRD is ugly right??

    =============================================

    Don't you think it is URgly???……A lot people refer it as "COFFIN CAR".

    Not an insult but an honor because in old China…..a coffin was always kept inside the house as a sign of good FENG SUI.

    Of course the Juara …is a low line of Coffin. or baseline….haha….But for Alpahard, at least it is BIG lah……..don't know why I am laughing…………………. In Japan if you threw this car on the road side, nobody will bother it. But if you threw and abandon it on the road side in KL….I bet it will be grabbed in seconds and then sold as scraps. A value for money ….

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  • In Japan if you threw this car on the road side, nobody will bother it. But if you threw and abandon it on the road side in KL….I bet it will be grabbed in seconds and then sold as scraps. A value for money ….

    ==========================================

    The car I meant is JUARA.

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  • waimak on Nov 28, 2009 at 11:36 pm

    Paul,

    Thanks for the post, and guys, for the comments.. :)

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  • Composer on Nov 29, 2009 at 12:42 am

    Kamaroo said,

    November 28, 2009 @ 9:03 am

    where are the crash test result !?

    i ask this q’s to P@#$mak P2 salesman…

    and the answer is…

    “even you urself can do crashtest bu ur own…”

    shame on u…p@#$mak u !!

    —————

    Erm..pretty nice comment!!

    So, next time whenever we test drive the Alza, we can do crash test too at the same time..rite?

    we want CRASH TEST!!!

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  • peYno on Nov 29, 2009 at 2:47 am

    lee123 is typical ah beng japanese wanabe laa

    let japanese and real JDM car owner laughing at him..

    later we will found alza driving at not only at karak hiway but at normal road with mirror windwdown..

    why??? coz 1 aircond not enough?? too hot and get normal air is better??

    prrrfthhh

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  • beskot on Nov 29, 2009 at 5:41 am

    some ppl think different than all.so if u think exora is better, alza is better, it up to u laa.

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  • Arcane on Nov 29, 2009 at 6:40 am

    Advanced version or not, to me, we are paying a premium price for a downgraded car. If you value your money, decide wisely.

    by the way:

    Gobuk Taragang said,

    November 27, 2009 @ 9:16 am

    I have Satria Neo 1.6 H-Line of myself. Has been driving it for 5 years (tell you) and no problem at all. Infact, not even a single part of the car been replaced. As it a Lotus handling technology, you can even ‘lepas tangan’ and the car is still cruising straightly for 60-80 meter (of course on the straight highway) on 110kM/H. I did it, no cheat.

    Try to do that with Viva or Myvi… and i guess you will ended up onto the ICU bed.

    I'm cuious to know how have you been driving your neo since it was only launched in June 2006?

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  • Arcane on Nov 29, 2009 at 6:40 am

    Advanced version or not, to me, we are paying a premium price for a downgraded car. If you value your money, decide wisely.

    by the way:

    Gobuk Taragang said,

    November 27, 2009 @ 9:16 am

    I have Satria Neo 1.6 H-Line of myself. Has been driving it for 5 years (tell you) and no problem at all. Infact, not even a single part of the car been replaced. As it a Lotus handling technology, you can even ‘lepas tangan’ and the car is still cruising straightly for 60-80 meter (of course on the straight highway) on 110kM/H. I did it, no cheat.

    Try to do that with Viva or Myvi… and i guess you will ended up onto the ICU bed.

    ============================================

    I'm cuious to know how have you been driving your neo since it was only launched in June 2006?

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  • S.Roma on Nov 29, 2009 at 6:52 am

    From my opinion :

    Pos side :

    – nice look

    – nice quality

    – smooth engine coz DVVT

    – interior and exterior so nice

    Neg side :

    – super small

    – not worth it compare to Exora

    – Exora 1.5 times bigger than this

    – not suitable if u have a lot of adult in family

    – conclusion, batter take Exora rather than this !

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  • zeroneight2850988for on Nov 29, 2009 at 6:56 am

    Oh Alza,

    only love at first sight,just love to drive but..as passenger,can u give us a comfortable?

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  • peYno on Nov 29, 2009 at 7:35 am

    WHY p2 put ALZA name??? follow japanese Idea???

    pity malaysian.. esp malaysian chinese.. coz normally chinese can't pronounce "ZA".. tell say "JA"…pelodua ALJA..

    prrrfthhh

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  • jong84 (Member) on Nov 29, 2009 at 8:36 am

    Hai yo.. so expensive… Better buy the normal line ALZA. Then customize myself with the value of money.. Install my own the Better quality full leather seat, (cost RM3K with including the leather for door trim). Want GPS? (get Nokia 5800 Xpress Music with Garmin RM1K). Get the Body Kit? (RM 1K Finish Install and Paint; even can customize myself with VIP Look) Total sum up= RM5K! even cheaper 5K than the advence package! So, whats on your mind, guyz??

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  • jong84 (Member) on Nov 29, 2009 at 8:41 am

    Come on.. sometime we need to be clear that something is not reasonable. Reasonable price, Reasonable Package, Reasonable bodykit, Reasonable Leather seat, Reasonable GPS. Whatever, you can make your own choice to be fool or to be a smart consumer.

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  • zulbusa on Nov 29, 2009 at 11:21 am

    tak la bagus sgt….leh kata macam myvi wagon….malaysia 3x…..sama mcm proton, di mana gen2 dipanjangkan dpt la pesona…..maafla kalau itu buat produa terasa…..harga dkt sama kete jepun ckd….baik namakan saja kete ni daihatsu…..kalau ikut sembang staf produa kete ini amat cantik sekali dan lebih cantik drpd mpv proton…..malangnya dua2 ni adik beradik….tertipu lg rakyat malaysia. tak pela……dh siap jual aje la…..kpd jurutera produa di bahagian rnd dan hiasan body kit….keje kuatla lagi dan yang mana2 jurutera yang blum kahwin tu tak payahla kawin…kejela siang dan malam supaya tak malukan malaysia…….jurutera yang penah putus tunang tu….kejela sampai mati kat situ supaya imej malaysia tak tercalar

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  • Apo lah korg nk gaduh kat cni…beli kete ikut kemampuan masing2 la…suke ati la nk pakai kete ape pn…senyap sudah…aku pn da ngok ALZA..ok ape…ape mslahnye…kalo da mmpu nk pkai caldina ke wish ke alpard ke vellfire ke..elgrand ke…beli la..mmg da kompem lg selesa…tp kalo duit cukup2 je…ALZA sudeh…ezora…pn ok gak ape…mmg la harga mhl skit kete malaysia ni…tp lg murah la skit dr kete2 luar…cube korang tnye pekobun gotah ko org jago tiket wayang ko…nk boli AVANZA ko ALZA?kompem la die jwb "Pokcik tak mampu doh nk boli AVANZA tu..mhl…kalo ALZA insyaAllah lah…

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  • --pininfarina-- on Nov 29, 2009 at 11:40 am

    First impression, it's a beautifully-designed car and better looking than the Proton Exora CPS. Last evening, I went to the Perodua Showroom at Nibong Tebal, Penang and surprisingly shocked. It is not good as what they had mentioned in the television. Then, I realize of how stupid the designer of the car (you know what I mean), because it is not a perfect fit for Malaysians who wanted to buy a better MPV for their family. I rather spend my money buy that Proton Exora Basic and modified it by my own taste. Frankly speaking, this car fortune will be as the infamous Proton Juara and I'm quite afraid that this will be an advantage for Proton and I'm sure the Proton sales' chart won't affect. I think when Proton exports their MPV to Australia, Indonesia and Thailand for instance, it will be a massive hit as so many international journalists reviewed this car. Way to go, Captain Obvious!!

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  • lee123 on Nov 29, 2009 at 1:48 pm

    We want up-hill test of Exora – going up Genting Highland with all windows winding down by with air-cond in FULL load mode????

    Otherwise f0lks,,,,DON'T BUY!!!

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  • car lover on Nov 29, 2009 at 4:14 pm

    susah btol kalo orang low-minded diberi peluang utk berikan pendapat.

    out of topic, merapu, hina-menghina, kutuk-mengutuk.

    anyway, please be more matured. i believe majority comments here come adult. So be like adult. Dont be like budak2 skolah rendah or tadika.

    Exora or Alza, we all are malaysian. sama2 nak carik makan. Negara kita ni kecik aje. Kalo suma gado sapa nak jaga. Talk base on facts. Not from ur rumours and prejudice tought. Dont talk beyond your knowledge. It will show how dumb is you.

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  • lee123 on Nov 29, 2009 at 5:21 pm

    WHY p2 put ALZA name??? follow japanese Idea???

    =======================================

    WHY USE THE NAME OF proton =====> a N english name,,,,follow mat sallleh?

    damm….ba ya roo……tiu nia seng…….

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  • lee123 on Nov 29, 2009 at 5:23 pm

    WHY p2 put ALZA name??? follow japanese Idea???

    =======================================

    CHILDISH!!! …..BAKA NO HITO…..

    WHY USE THE NAME OF proton =====> a N english name,,,,follow mat sallleh?

    tAK PATRIOTIC LAHHHH

    damm….ba ka ya roo……tiu nia seng…….BODOH PUNYA,,,,

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  • bosan giler on Nov 29, 2009 at 9:53 pm

    beli citra lagi bagus laaaa…. 2.0

    tapi aku sarankan mana yg dah ada Myvi tu baik la korang

    beli ALZA tuuuu…. besar wooooo, hehehehehe…cepat2 la beli,

    nanti leh P2 bagi bonus 6 bulan kat staff dorang….

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  • peYno on Nov 29, 2009 at 11:49 pm

    lee123

    prrrfthh ah beng japaenese wanabe vely angry loo

    can your pronounce ALZA correctly./.. ALZA.. not ALJA ok..prrfthh

    later put shoshinsha sticker. stick japanese wording kanji and katakana.. dan drive ALJA.. feel like Japanese oredi..

    hahah typical ah beng

    can't affort real JDM car, drive ASEAN japs downgrade car.. feel so pround oredi

    prrrfthhh

    omae.. nihonjin ni wararechau zoooo

    prrrfthhh

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  • peYno on Nov 29, 2009 at 11:53 pm

    lee123

    can't wait to see, japs wanabe ALJA driver syok sendiri driving a ALJA.. but got complaint from passenger at the back seat, floating ride and HOT air like moving mircowave.. later we found alot ah beng wind down the mirror coz not enough aircond power… have to use natural "AIR"

    prrrfthhh

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  • peYno on Nov 30, 2009 at 12:14 am

    i wnet to glenmarie p2 showroom just now, just to see DOWNGRADED version as i have driven ORI version in japan… just to see how stupid malaysian conned by p2 salesman there..

    there were 2 unit.. purple ( AT) and black (MT) version

    one malay pakcik say.. got bench seat so i can sit my child in front.. ( haha typical malaysian 3rd word country minded)

    one indian guy said.. back seat (3rd row) so sempit

    and most interesting part.. one of seat handle ( 2nd row) broken oredi…

    maybe malaysia so ganas.. or quality of cheapo mtrl?? can't be.. japs tech maaa

    prrrtfhh

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  • sharkox said,

    November 22, 2009 @ 2:53 pm

    PUKIMAK PUNYA PROTON

    wanna kill people some more is it on the road?

    to the proton CEO who is reading this, YOU ARE ALL BASTARDS LOW LIFE ASSHOLES.

    In japan, u can get a DAIHATSU CHARADE LOWER THAN this price with 7 AIRBAGS.

    YES, 7 AIRBAGS.

    What u put in the saga? NOTHING.

    F*CK YOU LA PROTON.

    YOU WANNA ENDANGER PEOPLES LIVE SOME MORE IS IT WITHOUT ABS,EBD AND ALL THAT?

    What if the poor family cant afford a car and buy this CRAP and get their lives killed because it just happened to dont have ABS?

    You bloody money sucking blood sucking bunch of MURDERERS.

    THATS WHAT U BLOODY ASSHOLES ARE.

    U JUST WAIT TILL I OPEN MY OWN CAR COMPANY.

    I PROMISE MYSELF IM GONNA BLOODY BUNGKUS THE PROTON COMPANY.

    U JUST WAIT.

    U are all bunch of bloody stupid DICKHEADS WHO NEVER LEARN FROM THEIR MISTAKE!!!!!

    People spent their lifetime savings on buying your car but all your car gives them is PROBLEMS!!!!

    U ARE ALL BUNCH OF BLOOD SUCKING MONEY LAUNDERING MURDERERS!!!

    =============================================

    I totally agreed with you 100 % , 100%

    The power windows of my WAJA always broken……it was a design flaw……Even if you don't use the power windows, it still broken by being just slammed by my kids of 8 to 12 yrs old.

    The P1 should RECALL ALL THE PROBLEMATIC CARS and replaced with a STEEL TYPE MECHANISM..

    WE WANT

    A TOTAL RECALL…….

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  • temakol on Nov 30, 2009 at 4:04 am

    Dont be too emo la brother. I myself have Nissan and Proton Savvy. Ok ma….even though Savvy dont have airbag…Im so confident with Savvy. Lately I got accident at 110kmph with my Savvy….during my driving back to hometown. 2 times 360 turn and rammed the concrete and jump to the opposite lane. Glad Im unhurt and just damage to my Savvy. But life more important maaa….even have 7 airbags….is it help a lot……depends back on how you drive the car. Im accident due to puncture tyre. So, can we just conclude without airbag the car have lowest safety? I dont think so. Its just additional safety feature which complement the core safety features such as strong body structure….and long crash/impact area. If you want extra features(safety)….so need to pay more…buy H-Line or premium for Perodua. Just sharing my experience.

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  • MR LEE 123, u can search in protonexora.com.my for details in their forum to see how many exora has been on genting with full load. are u stupid enough to turn on the aircond to max to go up to genting??? do u want to be keras naik ke atas, beku sebab sejuk sangat???genting dahlah sejuk. pasang aircond no 1 pun dah cukup. anyway, u bleh tengok testimoni pengguna exora sekali dengan gambar, full load n x full load, manual atau auto, jangan ke genting, ada bukit kat sarawak yang ketinggian 45% pun dah daki naik exora kokak.

    alza aku dah test drive, baru pasang aircond no 2, passenger 3 org, macam aku bwk exora, naik 5 orang, pasang aircond depan belakang. xtipu, aku dah try pedal to metal, lebih kurang je, laju lagi savvy aku yang kokak ni.so, kalu u nak tengok exora full load, naik genting, dah banyak.

    sekarang ni aku nak tengok alza naik genting 7 orang dewasa aircond full load, amacam, ada yang dah try ke????

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  • GeramHati on Nov 30, 2009 at 7:10 am

    downgrade macam mana pun lebik baik drpd lowgrade.

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  • geng nakal on Nov 30, 2009 at 7:14 am

    totally kereta tetapi nak lawan (konon2) p1 pnya pasal tambah lagi 2 seat….

    come on la p2 kalau tak mampu buat mpv better buat jela kereta…

    sekarang korang tanggung le risikonya…aku rasa honda kene tambah lagi 2 seat untuk jazz pastu tukar nama mpv…amacam..???

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  • khairulanuar on Nov 30, 2009 at 7:20 am

    "Car one moment, MPV the next"….

    This vehicle is experiencing identity crisis.

    Or it has double personality.

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  • learner on Nov 30, 2009 at 5:15 pm

    GeramHati said,

    November 29, 2009 @ 11:10 pm

    downgrade macam mana pun lebik baik drpd lowgrade.

    _________________________________________________________________________

    wait and see, hopefully this one is not downgraded plus low graded.

    what i understand is downgrade = reduce the spec, lowgrade = using cheap material.

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  • 1MaLaysIsa on Nov 30, 2009 at 5:24 pm

    I totally agree with learner. The space is just too small and it looks cheap. I will rather chose Proton Exora.

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  • dexter on Nov 30, 2009 at 5:28 pm

    for P1 and P2designer….

    " only through design can we capture our customers hearts"

    -Peter schreyer….( u know ths guy..)

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  • Arcane (Member) on Nov 30, 2009 at 5:46 pm

    learner said,

    November 30, 2009 @ 9:15 am

    GeramHati said,

    November 29, 2009 @ 11:10 pm

    downgrade macam mana pun lebik baik drpd lowgrade.

    _________________________________________________________________________

    wait and see, hopefully this one is not downgraded plus low graded.

    what i understand is downgrade = reduce the spec, lowgrade = using cheap material.

    =============================================

    in that case, Alza is a lowgrade, downgraded vehicle

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  • gen2lama on Nov 30, 2009 at 6:56 pm

    who said p2 cars more quality then p1..(latest model la…)..

    well let's guess what happen to these 2 'lucky' girls and the myviii…happened in front of my eyes (while waiting to refill gas)….perghhh..

    http://i657.photobucket.com/albums/uu300/gen2lama… http://i657.photobucket.com/albums/uu300/gen2lama…

    kesian muka tak puas hati…power window stuck kot..then baraiiii…so fragile la the door panel…

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  • aku dh rasa da dok dlm alza ni…dok seat pemandu (auto version) btl2 rse mcm naik passo sette yg asli dri toyota…ok la…tpi dlm versi manual,hancur la…mcm dok dlm kenari plak…then,2nd row,aku rse ok lagi la…wlupn aku kena admit exora lgi selesa,alza pn blh thn la…3rd row plak,aku rse avanza lgi better…aku punye kaki tk blh bergerak…terpaku aku kat 3rd row tu…exora lgi selesa mcm aku ddk dlm estima…bonet tk yah citer la…overall,bgi aku ok la alza ni pd luarannya shj…

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  • sensei81 on Nov 30, 2009 at 11:27 pm

    Cheers, our country is a free country, everyone has right to express his or her opinion. Let say you are not in favour of a car, you may state your comment or opinion or reason, ie; you'll never go for the Alza because it's not as spacious as you need or you'll not go for an Exora because of your previous experience with proton or you'll not go for an entry level honda because of the ridiculous taxation. Then that's enough. Semua org boleh menilai dan mempunyai pendapat. But apa yg aku heran when there are numbers of commentators here that keep coming in the thread and trying to impose your ridiculous mentality seolah2 mcm nak paksa org ikut pemikiran you. That's totally bullshit. just simply nyatakan pendapat anda and enough tak payahlah muncul byk kali nyatakan pendapat2 yg narrow minded mcm org lain bodoh sgt. Anyway aku heran kenapa kalau anda dah tak minat dgn perodua alza tp masuk thread ini dan berulang2 kali express pendapat2 yg akhirnya menunjukkan kenaifan anda. Come on guys kitorg tak bodoh, we have power to buy and we will decide. Somehow aku rase mcm ade usaha terancang dr pihak2 tertentu dlm thread ni utk mensabotaj alza…. Attack giler2 why? what r u guys fear of?

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  • peYno on Dec 01, 2009 at 2:28 am

    today i spotted alza test drive unit 2 times …

    but the driver not a customer or potential buyer.. but a p2 salesman itself ( i know becoz he drive alone with a friend beside him)

    why??? nobody wanna test drive? .. so have to do agressive promo..and very free jalan2 around town?? prrrfthhh

    how many booking oredi?? some say 3500 unit/10 days .. but some say oredi reach 10k within 10days… but i only believe the figure of 3500 unit…coz i got it from reliable source… neway 10k figure i got from someone here ( maybe from desperate p2 salesman)prrrfthhh

    and 2nd question.. why only advance version available for test drive unit??

    not confident.???. afraid to show ppl the standard unit becoz it looks weird and funny otr without touchup?

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  • sensei900 on Dec 02, 2009 at 5:03 am

    hei peyno,

    shaddap la,here u complain,in motortrader forum also complain,what? got nothing to do?well i guess ur car is the best in the world,u are the number one car owner that really know what is the best,very well then,fuck off and go to hell la!!!

    we will buy what we want to buy,we need a comment n review not a condemn and bias view!!

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  • hiruma kecil on Dec 02, 2009 at 7:29 am

    ape kehey ngan sensei ni.. doh memang orang buat forum untuk bagi komen pon…. ade masa, ade ayat komen la… xde masa xyah la komen… ni nak marah orang komen lak… period ke hape? xyah loa nak guna ayat f*ck tu… stok bajet x puas hati je…. kalo xnak bace komen2 orang, jangan la masuk forum… gi je la baca artikel ke berita ke… x pon baca la kreko ke, arena ke, gila-gila ke…. hish… syuh….

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  • alnazak on Dec 02, 2009 at 7:00 pm

    I totally agreed with you 100 % , 100%

    The power windows of my WAJA always broken……it was a design flaw……Even if you don’t use the power windows, it still broken by being just slammed by my kids of 8 to 12 yrs old.

    The P1 should RECALL ALL THE PROBLEMATIC CARS and replaced with a STEEL TYPE MECHANISM..

    WE WANT

    A TOTAL RECALL…….

    _____________________

    buduh…your stupid son ganaz ya amat..

    my old waja(sold) nothing happen for 5 years….

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  • beskot on Dec 02, 2009 at 7:08 pm

    waste my time to wait this alza. no point to int.but wait and see the alza owner complen when on the road

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  • learner on Dec 02, 2009 at 8:06 pm

    i actually kinda agree with some forummers here about the test drive unit of p2 alza. p2 shouldn't gives only 'special' variant unit for the test drive. p2 should provide the standard variant too. i think majority of buyers will buy the standard variant instead of the 'special' variant. when the potential buyers test drive the 'special' variant sure they will be sold with the 'special' feeling. after the test drive, the potential buyers will say, ohh i like the interior and the nice NVH of this car… then they tell the salesman to book the standard variant instead. when they receive the standard variant, they will feel different feeling from the one they have test driven few months back. for me thins is like cheating. something like McD TV add where the burger looks so fresh and soo big but when you buy the real one its really tiny and not that fresh looking.

    as i mentioned somewhere in PT before, i kinda like alza and really sold to the 'special' variant. i not really care what peyno said about the negative of this car but some of his/her constructive and fact about this car is well taken by me. so my suggestion for potential buyers of this car is if you what to buy standard variant, try ask for standard unit for the test drive. i don't know if some branches already offer the standard variant for the test drive unit, maybe when the heat of 'new car hype' fading away, many branches will offer the standard variant for the test drive. me myself consider the 'special' variant not the standard variant.

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  • Test drove the car out of nothing to do over the weekend.

    Not good: Suspension too soft, engine noise intrusion quite high. first row center cushion not for sitting not sure why is it there.

    Good: Adjustable rear seats are great feature to include, speaker phone for hand-held via bluetooth is great feature. MP3 playback via USB also another good feature.

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  • gen2lama on Dec 03, 2009 at 9:09 am

    yea…i just wonder the 'use' of first row centre cushion….just for arm rest i guess…..well bettr if p2 put proper arm rest (box type)…so more place to put ur wallet, hp, gps……………….

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  • peYno on Dec 03, 2009 at 11:22 am

    sensei900

    japanese name won't change u to become JAPANESE ok…prrrfthhh

    typical ah beng japs wanabe

    can't wait to hear ALZA buyer complain about their wagon later..

    i buy coz i "think" it has Japan tech.. must be better QC.. but end up… power window switch problem, gearbox problem, seat handle broken ( even showroom unit oredi broken)..syok sendiri as a driver but ppl behind suffer from HOT air(no AC) , sempit and bad suspension

    but i do believe those ppl won't tell their ALZA problem and just keep quiet..malu ooo.. sebelum ni hantam product lain..prrrfthh

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  • peYno on Dec 03, 2009 at 11:33 am

    learner

    if u still remember p2 showed their prototype ALZA afew months ago … got gated gear and tiptonic…many ppl felt cheated..

    p2 didn't make standard version as TEST DRIVE unit ..becoz they knew standard ALZA without bodykit is UGLY indeed…

    u will notice it when ALZA oredi on the road later.. ppl must say.. it looks not nice as EXPECTED

    any model.. even KANCIL may look nice with bodykit…

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  • P1, P2, Nissan, Toyota, Honda, Europe or US car… the problem is… our government tax too high for the car's taxes.

    Try to compare the price in Langkawi and Peninsular Malaysia, then we shall see how much we paid extra for the taxes.

    At other countries like Thailand, Singapore, Australia, US and etc. the car prices are affortable for everyone, as their government did not tax so high for the car. Coming soon, egg and suger prices will increase, next year fuel petrol definitely will increase again, somemore toll charges, RM50 for each credit card, goods and services tax in future too… poor us. T_T

    So, all of us are victim here, no point to fight among each other. We are in the same boat (country). Pray hard that our government able to help us to reduce those taxes and cancel unnecessary taxes and charges to all citizens. Cheers!

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  • ichia on Dec 04, 2009 at 12:29 am

    There is a legde a back(bottom) of the second row seat for third row passenger to push the second row chair to the front while trying to exit

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  • Yes! once you pull the ledge at back bottom of the second row seats ,you will be able to push the second row seats to the front.

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  • xptmsb07_09 (Member) on Dec 04, 2009 at 3:22 am

    cty mini perodua van… (cmpv)

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  • pastornga on Dec 04, 2009 at 3:33 am

    Isteri saya suka Alzalah! Baik-baiknya beli cepatnya, walaupun dia pun ingin nak besar lagi MPV ini.

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  • hamidon on Dec 04, 2009 at 6:31 pm

    lagi lagi isteri saya suka lah, nenek saya suka lah, nape tak cakap awak sendiri yg suka?? nak sedapkan ati la tu kononnya beli utk isteri padahal diri sendiri yg bawa nanti.. aku tgk alza kat perodua bandar baru klang letak sebelah myvi, dua-dua kereta warna putih.. tgk leather seat pun dah buleh nampak leather seat myvi lebih cantik dan kemas.. bila try duduk aku rasa macam kerusi myvi lebih selesa.. saiz alza nih panjang sikit je drpd myvi tp aku tgk myvi macam lebih lebar je mungkin sebab design dia nampak gemuk kut.. tgk design myvi pun nampak lebih kemas dan menarik daripada design alza yg aku rasa belakang dia macam plain sangat dan tak selari dengan design bahagian depan dia yg lebih menarik.. pi perodua dengan niat berkobar2 nak beli alza, lepas abih test drive je aku rasa tak berbaloi la beli alza ni, bini aku pun setuju.. last2 kami beli myvi special edition je.. baik kami simpan duit lebih tu untuk beli kereta yg lebih baik dan menarik bila anak2 kami dah besar skit nanti..

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  • JKucing on Dec 05, 2009 at 6:05 am

    Arcane said,

    November 28, 2009 @ 10:40 pm

    Advanced version or not, to me, we are paying a premium price for a downgraded car. If you value your money, decide wisely.

    by the way:

    Gobuk Taragang said,

    November 27, 2009 @ 9:16 am

    I have Satria Neo 1.6 H-Line of myself. Has been driving it for 5 years (tell you) and no problem at all. Infact, not even a single part of the car been replaced. As it a Lotus handling technology, you can even ‘lepas tangan’ and the car is still cruising straightly for 60-80 meter (of course on the straight highway) on 110kM/H. I did it, no cheat.

    Try to do that with Viva or Myvi… and i guess you will ended up onto the ICU bed.

    —————————-

    I’m cuious to know how have you been driving your neo since it was only launched in June 2006?

    —————————-

    lol stupid basher… :D

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  • huhu~ on Dec 05, 2009 at 4:18 pm

    i went to perodua showroom yesterday and test drive alza.

    with 6 peoples(average weight is 70-90kg) in the alza it wasnt a problem when i tried for the full throttle(a lil.bit slow compared to exora for the power).overall was ok.it even well-handle when i took a fast corner.but with the people height around 185(me),and 184 for my two brothers, the second and third row seems uncomfortable for us. after done a test drive my brother suggested to go to the proton showroom to test drive the exora. yes! the exora was surprising us.with the 2&3rd row really make our legs comfortable+it also gave us more space for the trunk compared to the alza(kereta juga mpv)..lot of promises from exora(btw exora engine is more powerful than alza)..but anyway.i just review based on my experience.however you better get yourself to the showroom.think wise

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  • nudin on Dec 05, 2009 at 9:31 pm

    I totally agreed with you 100 % , 100%

    The power windows of my WAJA always broken……it was a design flaw……Even if you don’t use the power windows, it still broken by being just slammed by my kids of 8 to 12 yrs old.

    The P1 should RECALL ALL THE PROBLEMATIC CARS and replaced with a STEEL TYPE MECHANISM..

    WE WANT

    A TOTAL RECALL…….

    _____________________

    buduh…your stupid son ganaz ya amat..

    my old waja(sold) nothing happen for 5 years….

    ******

    my satria gti 2001 still ok pwr window meh

    just spray the liquid to maintain..no problem at all

    ur headache problem come form ur son.. suka main pwr window

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  • zamrihunter3879 on Dec 06, 2009 at 5:06 am

    aku tak nak cite banyak sebab aku dah booking i unit alza.aku puas hati tak macam kauorang, tau kutuk je.kalau nak beli,beli aje toksah nak kutuk kutuk.orang yang suka mengutuk ni sebenarnya tin kosong,cakap pandai tapi habuk pun tarak,piiirah!

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  • fizzie on Dec 06, 2009 at 11:02 am

    Alza nie kalau kuar versi 5 seater (tempat duduk baris ketiga buat design boot barang) rasanya pun ramai yang beli, silap2 yg pakai myvi pun tukar beli Alza. Harap Perodua boleh fikir2kan la nak keluarkan Alza versi 5 seater mungkin boleh turunkan skit harga Alza untuk pengguna berpendapatan rendah.

    Apa salahnye kuarkan kenderaan mesra rakyat.

    Secara keseluruhan penampilan Alza cukup menarik, saya nantikan versi 5 seater….. maybe P2 boleh pertimbangkan cadangan ini.

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  • JACK HAMMER on Dec 06, 2009 at 11:17 pm

    this blog has a new clown..

    .. lee 123

    -_-'

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  • FOR MR LEE 123, Proton stands for PeRusahaan OTOmobil Nasional. Ada jugak rakyat malaysia yang xtau asal usul nama proton. patut kena tarik balik kewarganegaraan nih.

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  • FOR MR LEE 123, Proton stands for PeRusahaan OTOmobil Nasional. Ada jugak rakyat malaysia yang xtau asal usul nama proton. patut kena tarik balik kewarganegaraan nih…

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  • kenyalang.net on Dec 07, 2009 at 7:15 am

    PaulTan, pls block and blacklist whoever humiliating others and didnt respect the blogging ethics…..we went here for info….not nonsense talk!

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  • tunomura on Dec 07, 2009 at 7:49 am

    I have been driving both Daihatsu Passo Sette and this P2 ALZA..and wat can I say is "macam langit dan bumi".

    Pity to Malaysian who can't get such car (Passo Sette) at lower price..

    For the price rm55+++ and with that kind of specs (safety and technology), it is too expensive…

    By the way, in actual, in Japan, Passo Sette is just a junk car that only build 2 unit per day in Kyoto Plant. It is too rare to see Daihatsu car around and Nihon-jin is more prefer Toyota brand than Daihatsu brand..

    Kereta Juga MPV -> Keranda Bergerak Juga Van Mayat

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  • wan fikri on Dec 07, 2009 at 10:40 am

    Kereta MYVI banyak problem laa… cuba masok forum myvi sini…

    http://myvians.3.forumer.com/index.php?showtopic=…

    1. Disk brake (yg mana korang kata steering gegar bile brake)

    2. Pintu berbunyi

    3. Tingkap bergegar

    4. Cermin retak / pecah

    5. Hand brake tak mencengkam (masih melorot bila di paras bukit)

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  • learner on Dec 07, 2009 at 5:47 pm

    i discover something in the alza engine bay. i think thins must be cost cutting in action. if you see the fender at both left and right of alza from engine bay, the fender is actually made from plastic which is so soft until i can pry them upward and exposing the tire behind the fender. most of the car got metal for the wheel arch with plastic fender (if you know what i mean), but alza only got plastic fender which means prone for theft since you can access the engine compartment from the wheel arch through the plastic fender. this is an example of BAD cost cutting. please see yourself if you have time. this must be P2 R&D contribution again.

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  • learner on Dec 07, 2009 at 5:48 pm

    i discover something in the alza engine bay. i think this must be cost cutting in action. if you see the fender at both left and right of alza from engine bay, the fender is actually made from plastic which is so soft until i can pry them upward and exposing the tire behind the fender. most of the car got metal for the wheel arch in side the engine bay with plastic fender around the tire (if you know what i mean), but alza only got plastic fender which means prone for theft since you can access the engine compartment from the wheel arch through the plastic fender. this is an example of BAD cost cutting. please see yourself if you have time. this must be P2 R&D contribution again.

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  • tunomura on Dec 08, 2009 at 3:36 am

    @wan fikri ,

    Brake jadded is main problem for Myvi..Until now and forever this problem is remain unsolved because of the design itself. The best option is to use electronic steering system (same as Vios dugong) which steering is not linked directly to the drive shaft as per now. But this system is quite expensive for Malaysian cheapo car.

    Noise from the door is because of the door itself. The door is actually a "tin kosong" with no reinforcement at all…

    The fact is both mentioned problem above is not happen to Proton's car (Savvy, Neo, Persona, Saga…)..but Malaysian as usual still prefer to buy this Myvi, Alza..Wakaranai ne~e

    @Learner, plastic that what you mean is mudguard. Isn't it?

    P2 R&D know nothing about this car, they only design on bumper, headlamp and IP..the rest come from the east, Daihatsu..Blame on Daihatsu because they make sort of thing so that this car can sell high price with bigger return. The return will flow to Daihatsu. Thanks to Malaysian

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  • Member tanya aku apsal tak tunggu P2 MPV masa aku amik Exora.

    Aku ckp psl P2 kecik. So bila Alza keluar memang aku langsung tak menyesal pilih Exora. Dari keselesaan memang berbaloi. Genting dah naik. Top speed 170km/hr.

    Pasal Alza ni sure P2 dah buat market study. Lagipun design amik from Japan, cuma 90% material from Malaysia. Cuma pls confirm, betul ker design ni tak laku kat Jepun..sama macam Viva…

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  • peYno on Dec 08, 2009 at 9:21 am

    yes.. this ori mpv(sette/luminas) not selling well in Japan.. yet Honda freed sales is better than sette/luminas

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  • beesix buruk on Dec 08, 2009 at 2:38 pm

    learner …buta ke bangang..x da lagi kereta kat malaysia..dalam dunia ni fender dia buat drpd plastik…cover belah dalam 2 memang la plastik..V6 aku rega 100k pun plastik gak belah dalam..ko ni turun dr planet mana ha?

    lg 1, korang dok2 kutuk2 pun..alza 2 dah 11k org book…ting..tong…

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  • Mazda 3 MPS on Dec 08, 2009 at 4:35 pm

    beesix buruk said,

    December 8, 2009 @ 6:38 am

    learner …buta ke bangang..x da lagi kereta kat malaysia..dalam dunia ni fender dia buat drpd plastik…cover belah dalam 2 memang la plastik..V6 aku rega 100k pun plastik gak belah dalam..ko ni turun dr planet mana ha?

    lg 1, korang dok2 kutuk2 pun..alza 2 dah 11k org book…ting..tong…

    ————

    11,000…??? BULLSHIT FOR THIS CLOUDY MORNING…. most of comment from potential customer, they said alza too small for MPV

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  • saya rasa yang dimaksudkan oleh learner 2 splash shield aka mudguard..normaly item tu mmg di buat daripada plastic cuma P2 nak Cut Cost/terlupa pasang kot?kebanyakan kereta ada satu cover plastik yang bersambung dengan benda tu so x terlalu jelas splash shield tersebut…ini kena tanya org P2 nie…

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  • malaysian1 on Dec 08, 2009 at 10:55 pm

    bagi aku tak perlu gaduh2.. masing2 ada citarasa.. dan citarasa semua berbeza. kalau nak spacing pilih la proton exora. kalau nak cantik interior aku rasa alza sbb design dari jepun. cuma aku bangga lagi pakai kereta malaysia dan org malaysia yg design.

    jujur aku kata alza ni kecik la and tak boleh di iktiraf sebagai mpv sbb mmg kecil. and sesiapa pun tak leh compare alza gan exora. compare la dengan jazz or cherry era

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  • shade2war on Dec 08, 2009 at 11:37 pm

    have any of you ever view where they put the "spare tyre" of ALZA?, they told me this car is selling like "goreng pisang panas" maybe buyers still havent realize where is they placed the spare tyre

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  • hiruma kecil on Dec 09, 2009 at 12:12 am

    WHAT???? 11K… Aiyooooooooo…………….. betul ke ni??????????? mimpikah akuu??

    apekah???????? mengapekah????????? kenapekah????????? bangaimanekah??????? sungguhkah????????? benarkah?????? gilakah???????? aiyakkkkkk…………

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  • anak dato' kk on Dec 09, 2009 at 12:27 am

    Pg td gi tgk skali lg kat showroom, betol mcm yg pernah aku terbaca sebelum ni, adjuster utk 2nd row seat dah patah sbb tinggal sebelah aje. Pastu beteri pun dah dicabut. Mungkin dah ramai komplen bateri kecik mcm kete kancil punya aje.

    Apa2pun, tunggu dan lihat shj review dari buyer yg dah dpt kete nanti.

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  • Saya baca komen dari atas sampai ke bawah sampai naik pening dibuatnya. Komen pra-matang. Baru tengok di show room sudah komen berjela-jela macam sudah guna kereta tu sebulan dua. Cuba lah bagi peluang yang dah miliki kereta atau tuan punya kereta tu bagi komen, barulah genuine comment and may make sense. Ini kutuk sana, kutuk sini. When someone kutuk kereta kita balik, kita rasa marah, and then kutuk balik. Its that a culture we want to show to the rest of the world? or it's a really Malaysian culture?

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  • unknown on Dec 09, 2009 at 5:31 am

    haha,kenapa rakyat malaysia kata beli kereta perodua ini sebagai support malaysian brand

    perodua is half owned by toyota and daihatsu

    so frankly maybe a little bit of perodua's money will go to them,right.

    and perodua spend 200 million just for same old design

    what a waste

    this is not a car and not a mpv…………………

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  • neutral on Dec 09, 2009 at 7:35 am

    spare tyre ada bawah kereta seperti kereta2 lain,dah lama dah org buat n jimat space.at least P2 take note on any comments on their models and take action immediately bukan macam yang 1 tu.that's good what,at least kalau problem u comment, diaorg repair or replace.

    passo sette kat jepun memang xlaku sebab xcantik.ordering dah reach 12K ,ada kawan inform.tapi i xjadi booking lagi,tgu bonus dulu :)

    setakat ni i dah nampak proud early owner Alza color maroon,cun!!!! rasa nak tahan tepi jalan tumpang makan angin

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  • kenyalang.net on Dec 09, 2009 at 8:31 am

    Any Alza owner can testimony some experience? Driving stability and cornering? Pickup? soundproof?

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  • peYno on Dec 09, 2009 at 1:40 pm

    neutral.. p2 take note any comments, take action immediately??? apanya???prrrfthhhh

    depa hanya ikut je la.. org mesia suruh pasang 2nd aircond… dia tak buat.. sebab ikut jepun.. org mesia suruh pasang armrest kat driver utk versi MT.. dia tak buat..

    kat jepun org jepun bukan bodoh beli hanya semata2 cantik tak cantik.. lagi pon cantik ke tak tu subjective

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  • learner on Dec 09, 2009 at 5:38 pm

    chor said,

    December 8, 2009 @ 1:32 pm

    saya rasa yang dimaksudkan oleh learner 2 splash shield aka mudguard..normaly item tu mmg di buat daripada plastic cuma P2 nak Cut Cost/terlupa pasang kot?kebanyakan kereta ada satu cover plastik yang bersambung dengan benda tu so x terlalu jelas splash shield tersebut…ini kena tanya org P2 nie…

    ___________________________________________________________________________

    yup, the mudguard is so soft and tiny and there is no piece of metal at all above the mudguard. its like empty. all car do have mudguard made from plastic too, the issue is if you remove this mudguard from alza, the engine is exposed very obvious. if go through flooding road etc, i think water can get into the engine easily. other cars normally got some sheet metal extruding into the engine bay and the mudguard is underneat this extruding metal. i dont see this metal in alza.

    this will reduce the strength of the crumple zone since less metal to hold the structure. in normal car, example, when changing timing belt, this mudguard will be removed but still the extruding metal makes it hard for mechanic to reach the area especially for small car. alza is small and the engine is cramped in the bay, maybe without the extruding metal above mudguard make easy to reach the engine, but less metal means less rigid. later on taking corner chassis wobble.

    beesix buruk said,

    December 8, 2009 @ 6:38 am

    learner …buta ke bangang..x da lagi kereta kat malaysia..dalam dunia ni fender dia buat drpd plastik…cover belah dalam 2 memang la plastik..V6 aku rega 100k pun plastik gak belah dalam..ko ni turun dr planet mana ha?

    lg 1, korang dok2 kutuk2 pun..alza 2 dah 11k org book…ting..tong…

    ___________________________________________________________________________

    as the owner of rm100k car, i pity you for your childish attitude. 11k booking…. good, i hope they will not discover this too late. i raise the issue because i think people should be aware about this, why should you mad at me? i think your statement is better serve to yourself.

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  • shade2war on Dec 09, 2009 at 6:10 pm

    spare tyre dier takde cover, terus terdedah to enviroment tak rosak ka tayar tu ek???tayar keta kalau x guna kene hujan n panas bukan dier merekah ka?

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  • potential buyer on Dec 09, 2009 at 8:52 pm

    new owner blom ada kasik komen lagi ka? … tgh pikir2 lagik ni… tapi kalau tgk harga tu… mmg agak mahal la utk price:space ratio , price:quality = tak sure lagi , price:performance =pun tak sure gak, tunggu komen dari owner2 lah…

    anyway… so far Exora mmg lebih menawan kalbu….

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  • adima on Dec 09, 2009 at 9:06 pm

    congrats 4 t new car. i am proud o it. whtever others say. keep it up 4 a more better cars. proud 2 be malaysian.

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  • unknown on Dec 09, 2009 at 9:14 pm

    to neutral

    baik x yah je lah beli kete mayat nie

    rugi lebih

    and kalau kau ade family besar,jangan menyesal beli kete nie

    nak balik kampung pun kene letak beg atas bumbung

    buang je lah impian kau nak dapatkan kete nie…..

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  • unknown on Dec 09, 2009 at 9:23 pm

    advance lah sangat kete nie

    walaupun seat leather,tapi nampak macam papan je seat die…

    gps pun nampak macam dua tiga hari nak patah…

    muffler pun dah disorok

    hilang lah kemachoan kete nie

    lupa pulak,nama pun ALZA,mesti cam girl gak body kit nye,betul tak.

    headrest 3rd row seat,menandakan bahawa penumpang belakang akan

    sengsara dalam kereta

    space nak letak barang pun,setakat boleh letak handbag perempuan je lah…

    bagus perodua kerana dengan 'kelebihan' alza yang ayu ini,pasti ramai

    rakyat malaysia yang boleh dikira 'agak bodoh' turut serta dalam melariskan

    kereta 'buatan malaysia' ini.

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  • Kereta Juga MyVi on Dec 10, 2009 at 6:39 am

    Guys,

    this video makes Alza owner menyesal for booking Alza

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H47ujUgbzMU&fe…

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  • BRAZBUZ on Dec 10, 2009 at 9:13 pm

    better get exora..

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  • Exora Juga Innova on Dec 11, 2009 at 5:37 am

    aiseh Kereta Juga Myvi,itu Exora ar sudah jadi macam Innova tau.baik xyah tunjuklah.too big, too bulky,jadi macam kereta orang tua saje gagaga…

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  • Kereta Juga MYVi on Dec 11, 2009 at 7:58 am

    Exora Juga Innova said,

    December 10, 2009 @ 9:37 pm

    aiseh Kereta Juga Myvi,itu Exora ar sudah jadi macam Innova tau.baik xyah tunjuklah.too big, too bulky,jadi macam kereta orang tua saje gagaga…

    Mee, no need to change your nickname loh..

    youre good P2 salesman actually…

    so now, how many booking? after 11,000, it become 8,000 booking rite? 3,000 cancel their booking meh?

    Avanza 2nd hand easily to find loh, also use same engine like Alza loh…

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  • exora n inova kan MPV. So, xkisahlah bulky. dah namapun MPV nak bwk 7 orang, kalu buat kecik(COMPACT), mana bleh bwk 7 orang dewasa, 5 orang bleh lah, tapi senak.

    So, kalu ckp exora kete org tue, lebih rela coz at least bleh bwk sume famili g jalan2 dari mpv kompak, separuh naik MPV kompak, separuh lagi terpaksa naik bas atau teksi coz x muat, so ape cer bai ;-)

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  • hiruma kecil on Dec 11, 2009 at 9:30 am

    I think alza is value for money compare to citra… actually i like citra more than alza coz citra look more sporty and powerfull coaz it use 2.0 engine… but the space in citra is almost the same with avanza… i feel very UNcomfortable in 3rd row.. if for 20km also not comfortable for me(174cm).. i he third row is only for children i think.. if compare between citra and alza… i rather buy alza than citra… coz the price and the fc… but still i like Exora the most… i’ve seen many modified Exora… they are looking very sporty and beautiful… for me, Exora is more beautiful than wish… CONCLUSION (<—what is this… hahaha…) if you have a family with 3-5 children(age 1day-18yr) and you want a simple vehicle, easy to drive and parking, sometimes drive with fully load, and you live in big city and need a city car… you can buy this alza…

    If you have a family with 3-5 children(age 1day-18yr) and you want a simple vehicle and want more sporty and powerful vehicle and have xtra money to pay… go and get the citra…. And if you have have a family with 3-7 family members no metter how old are they and you always MPV AS MPV… like to do long distance travel with full load, like powerfull engine, want affordable and good handling mpv… then you should buy Proton Exora… THEN, if you have more money and want something luxury… so go for estima, odyssey,alphard, starex and of course the 'Grand' Elgrand…

    At first when i go to perodua show room for alza, i dont like the alza… i think alza is suck… but after i think again… the alza is not that bad… yes it is small but i ithink perodua want to sell this little mpv for samll family.. so i think it is can be a comfortable car for small family… for someone who have a big family and feel not comfortable, he can go for Exora or innova…. for me it is this alza should be built like the matrix, 5 seater mpv… but this is the advantages of alza compare to matrix.. coz… if we use it as 5 seater mpv. it is bigger than matrix and plus it can be use as 7 seater mpv if we need it….. yes, alza is a very samll mpv, and should't called as mpv… it is a car… BUT that is why this car built as COMPACT MPV…. compact mean small,minimum in space, not big… but i still think this 'little mpv' is overprice…. ithink perodua cannot cut the price coz, if they cut the price, then there will be no difference between in price this alza and myvi and it can kill myvi market… they can only cut the price only if they sell myvi with cheaper price.. for me, with rm55k for alza is expensive and i rather pay additional 10k to get exora m-line… ALZA is a little mpv for little family, EXORA is real mpv for who want mpv as mpv… ELGRAND is for 'status'… And for me…. i will get a hi-roof Toyota HI ACE 2.7 with turbo and 17 or 18 inch sportrims and full skirting for me, coz I'm a die-hard van lover…. I LOVE REAL VAN… HIACE.. WAIT FOR ME!!!

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  • Oiii mr Kereta Juga MYVi, jangan sebarang tuduh. Bila plak aku tukar nick??? Lain kali belajar dulu check IP, jgn tuduh2 jer. Aku bukan salesman perodua mahupun proton. Aku adalah pengguna kedua2 produk mereka…

    Sekian, terima kasih.

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  • Kepada mr Beesix buruk,

    Ngko memang penipu sampai 11ribu yang booking alza ni. Im asking my fren at p2, just 1800 jer yg booking since now (termasuk aku lah tu). Mmg melampau betul penipuan ngko tu…

    Sekian, terima kasih

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  • BRAZBUZ on Dec 12, 2009 at 8:14 am

    hahaha klo anak 3 angkat la alza

    tp klo more than 4, better amik exora la..

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  • sparkoeng on Dec 12, 2009 at 10:59 pm

    Kalau dah banyak sangat komplain, kumpul duit beli Rclass,Alhambra atau Porcshe. Mahal memangla mahal. Inikan 1 Malaysia semua mahal mana ada murah. Kalau murah macam mana menteri nak pakai jet,duduk rumah besar,kereta besar. Lu pikirla sendiri.

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  • old timers on Dec 13, 2009 at 3:37 am

    Mee said,

    December 11, 2009 @ 11:05 pm

    Kepada mr Beesix buruk,

    Ngko memang penipu sampai 11ribu yang booking alza ni. Im asking my fren at p2, just 1800 jer yg booking since now (termasuk aku lah tu). Mmg melampau betul penipuan ngko tu…

    Sekian, terima kasih

    ——————-

    1,800 je booking????

    halamak!! the sign shows that it will become like Perodua RuZa sales..

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  • Daniel on Dec 19, 2009 at 10:03 am

    Hi. my opinion is…love it, buy it…if you hate it, just leave it…there are many options in Malaysia, but some people would it comfortable, with such design and price, for me, is just one thing, not bad since I cant afford to buy an Estima yet….

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  • kingv6 on Dec 20, 2009 at 8:08 am

    ok ok…

    dont gaduh gaduh…

    lets make a conclusion..

    Alza is the cheapest wagon in Msia… and yes.. we accept that its not a MPV.

    Exora is the cheapest MPV.. and yes the quality sucks.

    Cheers!

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  • temakol on Dec 20, 2009 at 9:44 pm

    YEA…….very good conclusion. Hehehe. Thats the way smart buyer commenting in a blog.

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  • makan makan on Dec 20, 2009 at 9:57 pm

    Personally, i love ALZA..it was a great car.

    But just wonder…this old model (was realeased many yrs ago in Japan), Downgraded version, almost no RnD involve, and not kind of built from scratch like p1 model..YET, the price is only few thousand cheaper than EXORA. Let me ask you, whose real culprit here..P1 or P2. From the scenario, ALZO should be priced at least 15 K cheaper than EXORA..I beg, they just relocate all most of the tools from japan to here,Thats all. P2 kalau nak untung pun, pada-pada lah. dont be too greedy. Look what happened to Nautica. Another, Toyota/Daihatsu should allow or rather P2 should ask to market this to at least ASEAN country, just dont rely on domestic market only. For how long, P2 want to be Jaguh Kampung. Bigger market,trasnlate to bigger manufacturing activities hence could provide more job for malaysian. Take all time blockbuster..MYVI-how many was sold overseas..?

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  • joe jambul on Dec 21, 2009 at 4:39 am

    win-win p1-p2 said,

    November 24, 2009 @ 2:00 pm

    to AZRAI…………..

    RUSA IS NOT MPV/…………..

    RUSA IS VAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    HAHAHHAHAHA

    —————————————————

    Bro,

    before saying that, you better check with the Rusa owner, what state in the their grant or have you ever been summoned if you drive it above 90 km/hr….

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  • wan fikri on Dec 21, 2009 at 7:07 pm

    Dipetik dari luahan engineer Proton…

    Assalamualaikum,

    Yang ni saya kena jawab la sebab banyak sangat misinformation. Biasanya information yang berpindah dari satu mulut ke satu mulut yang lain akan berubah menjadi sensasi. Itu lah masyarakat kita. Kita bukan mendapat firsthand info tapi berdasarkan cerita yang telah ditokok tambah. Ini dia cerita dari orang dalam yang duduk ditengah-tengah R&D PROTON.

    “Saya ada kenalan dari kastam boleh confirmkan perkara ni.. member saya kerja kastam kat kelang dan beliau sendiri yang maklumkan yg salah satu tugas dia adalah buat checking penerimaan barangan proton untuk di pasangkan di negara ni. Satu kontena enjin je.. manakala kontena lain adalah pintu, body dan sebagainya. sama lah dengan kereta lain juga.”

    Kalau kita lalu kat kawasan glenmarie tu, akan ternampak lah satu tanda… Kilang Enjin Proton. Tanda tu tak duduk kat situ untuk suka suka je. Kalau kita jengok kat dalam…. Boleh nampak besi cair yang dituang kedalam acuan untuk membuat enjin block. Memang proton ada mengimpot enjin tapi dari kelas 1.2 dan 2 liter. 1.2liter untuk Savvy (enjin Renault) dan

    2.0liter untuk Perdana. Tapi untuk enjin 1.3, 1.5, 1.6 proton buat sendiri. Untuk pintu pulak… hanya kereta-kereta Perdana sahaja yang proton beli pintu dari Mitsubishi. For your information, Untuk membuat pintu sahaja memerlukan dekat 20 acuan. Bayangkan lah 4 pintu. Modal itu shaja sudah hampir RM50 juta. So untuk kereta yang volume kecil, kita beli dari luar.

    Untuk kereta Isawara, Wira, Waja, Gen2, Savvy… 100% body dibuat di Malaysia .

    “Bayangkan dah 20 tahun menanti kereta Malaysia yang sebenarnya tak

    keluar-keluar lagi. Bagi yang berkemampuan sudah tentu tak mahu

    menggunakan injin kenderaan berteknologi 70an, 80an dan 90an yang

    diubahsuai. Sudah tentu ramai nak teknologi terkini dan sebenarnya milik kita. Secara umumnya proton masih belum ada enjin sendiri lagi.. jadi adalah sukar hendak dikatakan kalau ianya adalah kereta Malaysia

    yang sebenarnya. Pengeluaran kenderaan adalah berdasarkan injinnya barulah boleh dikatakan ianya kenderaan negara sebenarnya.”

    Disini lagi ada misinformation. Memang untuk kereta Perdana kita impot enjin dari Jepun. Untuk Savvy kita gunakan enjin Renault. Untuk Isawara, Wira dan Waja kita buat enjin di Malaysia walaupun design original

    dia dari Mitsubishi. Tapi enjin Gen-2 adalah enjin terkini yang direka oleh jurutera Proton dan dibina di Malaysia. Enjin tersebut menggunakan teknologi terkini. Jadi kenyataan diatas agak menyesatkan sedikit. Naza, Perodua…. Masih lagi membawa enjin dari luar. Modal untuk mereka dan mengeluarkan enjin ni amat besar. Nak dapat return pun bukan nya sekejap. Tapi demi maruah dan kemajuan, kita korbankan keuntungan jangka pendek. Selagi kita tidak mengeluarkan enjin sendiri.. selagi itu kita tidak tahu. Sekarang kita telah pun mengeluarkan enjin sendiri… orang masih tidak percaya. Itu lah masalah orang kita… memandang rendah kebolehan anak negara sendiri.

    “Selama ini proton bergantung kepada Mitsubishi sebagai rakan teknikal. Oleh kerana kontrak selama 20 tahun telah tamat. Maka proton terpaksalah mencari rakan teknikal yang baru dan bermulalah masalah melanda proton. Sudah tentu rakan teknikal baru tidak mahu meneruskan rekaan dan teknologi mitshubishi lagi. So apa kan jadi pada kereta proton yang ada

    sekarang ni untuk masa akan datang.”

    Tidak wujud kontrak 20 tahun dengan Mitsubishi. Mereka adalah rakan kongsi. Bertahun tahun kita berkerjasama dengan Mitsubishi tetapi teknikal apa yang mereka turunkan. Kalau kita pernah berkerja dengan orang Jepun atau Korea , mereka inilah yang paling kemut ilmu. Tapi bab nak korek ilmu kita, dia orang rajin habis.Korang jangan terkejut bila saya cakap yang idea

    kita pun banyak yang Jepun curi. So bila kita mula menuntut teknologi baru dari mereka… mula lah nak caj dan nak ikat royalti yang tak munasabah. Nak mintak copy teknikal drawing zaman dulu sekeping pun dia orang caj beribu ribu. Mulalah kita pandang teknologi dari barat dan teknologi sendiri. Sebab itu kita beli Lotus.. Kita ignore Jepun. Bila kita design sesuatu yang lebih baik… laju je dia orang hantar balik information ke Mitsubishi. Last-last kita pun mula bersikap secrecy dengan dia orang… lama lama

    diaorang fed up dan mintak keluar. Lagi pun dia orang dah nampak afta nanti dia orang akan masuk balik ke Malaysia.

    Perodua… kenapa daihatsu/toyota memberi enjin latest dia orang…. Sebab Perodua tu 100% milik Toyota/Daihatsu. Dah lama UMW menjual saham dia orang kepada Jepun. Proton…. Milik Malaysia .

    “Mungkin ada yang tahu dan ada yang tak tahu yang proton yang digunakan pakai sekarang adalah barangan Mitshubishi. Samalah seperti kereta lain.. tukar lambang je..”

    Inilah susah orang kita ni…. Banyak mendengar cerita sensasi yang

    banyak ditaruk banyak rempah ratusnya….. Memang pada mulanya kita

    belajar… selepas itu kita buat sendiri.Saya adalah seorang yang terlibat dengan kerja kerja tersebut.

    Saga – base dia Lancer lama. Kita Cuma tukar depan dan belakang

    sikit.

    Iswara – base Saga, kita mula belajar untuk design kereta sendiri. Masa ni Mitsubishi dah tak berapa setuju bila kita menubuhkan R&D. So kita menggunakan khidmat penasihat dari UK .

    Wira – Disini berpuluh puluh designer dan engineer Proton dihantar ke Jepun untuk kerjasama design kereta baru. Proton dan Mitsubishi kongsi modal. Hampir 2 tahun kami disana. Bahagian tengah dikongsi bersama.

    Depan dan Belakang, design asing-asing. Lampu depan dan belakang share sebab nak kurang kan cost. Hasilnya Proton Wira-Mitsubishi Lancer.

    Orang akan kata hah kongsi je sebab tak tahu buat kerja…. Tapi ada orang kata apa apa bila Ford dan Mazda berkongsi bahagian tengah? Ford Laser dan Mazda 323 adalah kereta yang sama. Ada orang komplen? Bila

    orang Malaysia yang buat begitu… orang Malaysia sendiri yang nak mengutuk. Tak ramai yang tahu seksa bekerja kat Jepun sebab dia orang suka curi idea. Bayang kanlah semasa kami design dashboard untuk

    Wira… masa tu Mitsubishi sudah pun siap soft tooling mould untuk dashboard kereta dia… Bila mereka tengok dashboard Proton, Mereka sanggup letak designer dia depan design kita untuk mengubahsuai kembali rupa bentuk dashboard mereka. Kalau kita pernah tengok dashboard mitsubishi lancer… hampir samakan. Itu mereka yang meniru bukan kita. Ianya menunjukkan kita bukan tak pandai… Cuma masyarakat sendiri berfikiran macam itu.

    Perdana – untuk membuat satu satu design bukannya murah. Nak balik modal pun lama. Jumlah kereta yang dijual pun kena banyak.

    Gila2FX 01-06-2008 10:49 PM

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    So, kalau nak buat Perdana…. Sampai habis pun tak balik modal. So yang ni memang

    kita ambil kereta dari mitsubishi dan pasang di Malaysia. Cuma kita tukar depan dan belakang, dan bahagian dalaman.

    Tiara – Tiara adalah bukan product Proton. Ia adalah keluaran DRB. Tapi kita kena tunduk dengan arahan dari atas untuk mereka menggunakan lambang Proton.

    Waja – Waja adalah permulaan kita untuk menunjukkan kita mampu melakukan kerja sendiri. 100% didesign orang orang kita. Tapi untuk kejuruteraan kita memerlukan consultant dari luar.. mainly dari Eropah

    dan Amerika. Bukan sebab tak pandai tapi kita tak cukup kakitangan. Nak design kereta bukan seperti menjahit baju. Kebaikan dari mengambil consultant dari luar memang membuka mata kita… kita adalah setaraf

    dengan kebolehan mereka. Nak design kereta ni memerlukan beratus ratus kakitangan. Bukannya sedikit.

    Gen2 – 100% didesign oleh orang kita. Consultant dari luar hanya sedikit sebab kakitangan kita semakin ramai. Kita mula menggunakan enjin yang didesign sendiri.

    Savvy – 100% dedesign sendiri. Cuma enjin sahaja kita menggunakan Renault sebab kita tidak ada enjin bersaiz kecil. Well…. Kehebatan enjin Renault sudah terbukti bila mereka memenangi F1. Disin banyak berita palsu disebarkan oleh mereka yang tidak bertanggung jawab.Contohnya… Savvy adalah Tiara dan menggunakan chasis Tiara lama. Savvy tidak ada kena mengena dengan Tiara. Savvy adalah baru, 100%. Tidak ramai yang tahu bahawa Savvy menggunakan HTHS steel (High Tensile High Strength Steel). Sebab tu body Savvy kuat. Memang ada terpampang kereta Savvy kemek kerana accident. Well… kereta mercedes, volvo, BMW pun kemek bila accident. Tapi tak ramai yang tengok keadaan dalaman Savvy yang

    accident tu… In fact. Kukuh. Saudara saudari… Bila kita design kereta ni.. yang paling penting adalah keselamatan penumpang. Memang kereta didesign untuk crumple bila ada impact. Itu untuk menyerap daya

    hentakan supaya bukan manusia yang menerima hentakan kuat. Rating TUV Germany memberikan 3 star untuk Proton. BMW 5 series pun dapat 3 star. Ramai yang kata Savvy ni tak sedap bila memandu. Tapi tanyalah yang

    bercakap tu… adakah mereka pernah memandu Savvy. Kebanyakan nya tidak. Hanya mendengar dari orang lain.

    Lain lain – Ada banyak lagi yang saya tak boleh cerita sebab ada secrecy act. Proton pun ada design kereta untuk company lain dan ada membuat part untuk company lain. Proton ada juga buat reverse engineering untuk

    motosikal lumba (tahun tu dia champion) tapi kita tidak boleh menceritakan sebab dasar secrecy kita. Mungkin sesetengah orang yang memakai certain kereta mewah tidak tahu yang part kereta mereka dibuat di proton. Kalau Proton tak elok… masakan mereka mengkontrakkan proton untuk membuat kereta mereka.

    “Berbalik kepada masalah yang sedang dihadapi oleh proton. Kenapa ianya harus berlaku perkara sebegini. Apakah yang sebenarnya telah berlaku dan dibuat oleh proton dalam masa 20 tahun untuk membina kenderaan nasional sendiri. Memang ada R&D proton cuba mendapatkan struktur dan bahan-bahan untuk membuat injin tapi gagal mendapatkan resepinya.”

    Proton memang dah ada enjin sendiri. Yang terpasang dekat Gen-2 tu apa dia. Bab-bab bahan untuk membuat enjin tu senang je. Kebanyakan pengeluar kereta menggunakan besi yang sama sebab pengeluar besi

    dalam dunia ni bukan banyak. Kita Cuma bagi specifikasi je. Nak design enjin tu yang susah. Transmition yang paling susah. Untuk info lah… kami

    masih lagi dalam proses untuk mereka cipta transmition sendiri. Bukan macam nak buat karipap tau.

    “Penubuhan proton sejak 20 tahun yang lampau tidak mencapai objektif yang sebenarnya. Dimana silapnya? Berapa ramaikah yang tahu bilakah ilham proton ini sebenarnya timbul dan berapa lamakah usaha dilakukan

    bagi membolehkan impian ini tercapai.”

    Mungkin ramai yang mengganggap hanya seorang perdana menteri sahaja terlibat. Cuma pada zaman Tun M baru persetujuan dapat dicapai setelah Mitshubishi bersetuju menjadi rakan teknikal dengan bersyarat. (syarat ni tak bolehlah diberi tahu.. sebab ianya adalah OSA)

    Penubuhan Proton lebih mencapai objectif nya. Pada mulanya Proton hanya di rancang untuk membuat kereta bukan untuk merekacipta kereta. Kita menubuh R&D, Mitsubishi tidak setuju. Ye la… siapa nak bagi kita pandai kan . Cuba check dekat Perodua, berapa ramai jurutera dari Proton bekerja dekat sana, Head of R&D Perodua…bekas Proton, Head of Styling…bekas

    Proton, Head of Planning…bekas Proton, Head of Production…bekas Proton (rasa-rasanya dah kena kebas dekat Naza), Head of Engineering Services…bekas

    Proton. Ratarata mereka yang senior dekat sana dari proton. We trained them… orang lain ambil cara senang je.

    Naza pulak.. Head of R&D….bekas Proton. Head of Production…bekas

    Proton. Honda pun ramai bekas Proton, DRB Pekan… Head dia pun bekas

    proton, Inokom… head dia pun bekas proton. Itu kira head je…bukan lagi kira engineer dan designer. So it meets its objective untuk memajukan orang-orang kita. Mainly orang Melayu. Naza sendiri tidak menyangkal

    kereta Naza mainly didevelop oleh bekas kakitangan Proton. So… orang Proton tak bagus?

    Kita belum lagi kira bekas pekerja proton yang diambil oleh consultant luar negara… dari America, Eropah sampai ke Jepun.Tau tak kita kakitangan Proton telah memenangi pertandingan mereka design kereta anjuran Ford. Beliau mendapat tempat pertama. Bukan bertanding diperingkat Malaysia . Tapi di peringkat antarabangsa. Memang beliau mendapat tawaran kerja dari syarikat kereta gergasi Amerika dan Eropah. Tapi kami tabik bila dia decide nak stay dekat Malaysia sebab taknak anak-anak membesar dinegara lain. Ada orang tau…?

    Gila2FX 01-06-2008 10:49 PM

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    “Selama 20 tahun proton pergantung kepada pemerintah yang sepatutnya telah boleh berdiri dengan sendirinya sekarang ini selepas perjanjian tamat. Ibarat kata.. berapa lama perlu bergantung.. tak kan dah 20 tahun

    nak merangkak lagi.. nak tambah masa untuk merangkak lagi.. so bila lak nak belajar berdiri dan berjalan sendiri tanpa dipimpin lagi..sebab tu exPM kata.. kalau dah tak boleh tutup aja…”

    Proton boleh menjadi lebih baik kalau tidak ada tanggung jawab kepada negara. Senang aja… buang sahaja pengeluar-pengeluar yang bermasalah. Tapi apa akan jadi dengan ekonomi. Itu tanggungjawab Proton untuk negara. Bayangkanlah penjanaan ekonomi proton untuk negara… berapa banyak kaki tangan Proton… 8000. Berapa banyak kakitangan syarikat yang secara lansung untuk membuat part Proton…100,000 orang. Berapa banyak bank dapat untung, berapa banyak syarikat bumiputra yang naik? Bayangkanlah kami boleh membantu sedangkan polisi kerajaan tidak membantu.

    Cuba ingat sebelum timbulnya proton. Berapa banyak wakil jualan bumiputra untuk kereta toyota , nissan, honda? 0… Kosong.

    Mengenai masalah AP pulak perkara tu bukan perkara baru. Mungkin ada yang tak tahu yang proton juga mendapat AP. Kalau tak.. sure harga kereta proton tak serendah sekarang ini. Tak percaya boleh check duti import yang dibayar untuk sebuah kereta proton. Nak check duti import tak susah sgt.. cuma bandingkan harga kereta proton di kawasan bebas cukai.

    Kita memang tak payah bayar duti impot sebab kita buat kereta kat dalam Malaysia . Tapi tetap kena cukai. Kita tak ada AP. Yang Proton kecewa kenapa terlampau banyak AP dikeluarkan. Lepas tu sebijik-sebijik kerajaan kena

    tipu. Bayangkan lah kalau kereta KIA yang dibawa masuk ke Malaysia … harga yang di declare adalah RM8000. Tak masuk akalkan bila kastam approve benda ni. Paling murah kereta yang pernah dibuat adalah dalam dunia ni adalah lebih kurang RM18,000. Itu baru bahan bahan dia. Belum lagi kira cost modal acuan, cost tenaga kerja, cost R&D. Bayangkan lah banyak mana kerjaan rugi pada cukai. Bayangkanlah banyak mana Naza untung.

    Dasar Automotif Negara di perlukan bagi meneruskan perjuangan yang belum tercapai disamping menjaga serta melindungi pemilik kereta proton sekarang ini. sejauh mana boleh bertahan tak tahula..kalau tidak akan

    bertimbunlah bakal besi buruk bila tiada lagi sparepart proton (asalnya milik Mitsubishi) dan akan timbulah barangan made in Jinjang atau sewaktu

    dengannya.

    Saudara… Dalam banyak banyak negara pengeluar

    kereta, Malaysia lah yang paling kurang memprotect

    industry automotive mereka. Rakyat Malaysia juga lah

    yang paling tidak patriotik dalam hal-hal kereta ni.

    Walaupun kita telah merdeka, minda kita tetap diajar

    barangan lain lebih elok dan tidak membantu barangan

    sendiri. Saya ambil contoh… Thailand membuka pintu

    mereka untuk industri automotif… tapi ada syarat.

    Kereta yang dibina di Thailand harus lah di export

    keluar lebih dari yang dijual dalam negara nya.

    Korea… cuba pergi ke Korea dan lihat sendiri disana.

    Nak cari kereta yang bukan dari Korea …susah.

    Sebabnya…

    1. memang mereka patriotik.

    2. Cuba pakai kereta import… Lembaga Cukai mereka

    akan menyusahkan pembeli kereta tu. Sebab kata mereka

    tentu banyak duit.

    Jepun… Semasa mereka belajar membuat kereta hampir

    80 tahun dulu… nak naik bukit pun boleh undur (baca

    sejarah toyota ), tapi rakyat mereka tetap bangga dan

    tetap membeli. Cuba kat Malaysia …. Kutuk lagi ada.

    Saudara semua… kejayaan sesuatu project negara

    bergantung kepada sokongan dari rakyat sendiri. The

    more people buy, the cheaper things can be. Economic

    of scale lah tu. Lagi banyak dijual, lagi rendah cost

    pembalikan modal untuk setiap kereta. Nak buat sebijik

    kereta hampir 1 billion cost dia. Macam mana nak balik

    modal kalau kita tak ambil untung. Kilang enjin lagi

    mahal… tapi kita korbankan keuntungan kerana kalau

    kita dok asyik beli enjin dari luar, masa mana kita

    nak belajar dan maju. Proton baru 20 tahun. Korea

    mengambil masa 40 tahun untuk kereta dia tiba ditahap

    ini. Jepun sudah 80 tahun, Barat sudah 100 tahun. Ini

    industri kereta. Kalau orang suruh kita fikir nak buat

    plastik aiskrim tu pun majority kita tak boleh. Ini

    kereta. So yang mengutuk tu… fikir. Lagi banyak kita

    jual, lagi murah kita boleh jual… lagi banyak duit,

    lagi baik pembangunan yang kita boleh buat. Setiap

    test dan setiap bahan baru yang nak direka memerlukan

    wang yang banyak.

    Masalahnya sekarang siapakah yang bakal atau boleh

    dijadikan rakan teknikal. Walau pun volkswagen nak join

    ngan proton tapi persoalannya boleh ke..?

    Kenapa..saya kata macam tu..sebab Volkswagen ni guna

    euro. Sudah tentu la harga kereta proton pada masa

    akan datang lebih mahal lagi. (salah satu sebab isu AP

    keluar) Nak mohon Nissan atau Honda atau Toyata jadi

    rakan teknikal memang agak sukar.

    Errr…. Ini kita bagi hint sikit sebab teruk sangat

    Gila2FX 01-06-2008 10:50 PM

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    dah ni. Kita tengah develop kereta dengan VW. Sebab tu

    kita jangan dengar saja orang cakap.

    Kalau semua AP ditarik balik lagi banyak masalah akan

    timbul.. salah satunya adalah AFTA. Mampukah negara

    kita membayar ganti rugi kepada negara lain yang telah

    melaksana AFTA. Mungkin ada yang tak sedar yang negara

    kita telah membayar ganti rugi RM billion sebab

    menangguh perlaksanaan AFTA sebelum ni kapada negara

    Asean yg berkaitan.

    Memang kita akan kena penalti sebab ada

    perjanjian AFTA. Tapi bukan kita nak tarik AP macam tu

    aja. Jalan penyelesaian masih ada. Kalau negara lain

    boleh ada polisi dia orang yang membantu industri

    kereta mereka… kenapa kita tidak boleh. Kerana AP

    China boleh mengeksport kereta mereka ke Malaysia

    (kereta Chery hampis masuk), tapi polisi China masih

    lagi tidak membenarkan kereta kita masuk kesana.

    Memang dia kata boleh masuk tapi dah 5 tahun mencuba

    pun belum dapat kelulusan lagi. Banyak syarat lagi.

    India… nak masuk kesana kena letak deposit USD200

    Million. Belum lagi nak set up kilang dan

    infrastruktur jualan. Cuba masuk kat Korea … Kita nak

    jual kain kita kat sana pun diaorang tak nak beli

    walau pun kualiti kita bagus. Kuat nya patriotik

    diaorang. Kita… apa yang nama lain selain dari

    barang sendiri mesti bagus punya.

    Bagi yang nak membandingkan kereta kita dengan kereta German….

    Bukan tak boleh buat. Boleh… tapi sanggup ke bayar harga kereta German

    untuk kereta buatan Malaysia .

    Naza yang rata rata import kereta Cuma tukar

    bumper pun boleh jadi taraf kereta nasional. Perodua

    yang tak pernah design kereta sendiri (cuma design

    bumper depan belakang) pun dapat taraf kereta

    nasional… Proton sekurang-kurangnya telah mendidik

    ramai anak bangsa dalam kemajuan teknologi. Dah ramai

    hasil dari pengalamn bekerja dengan proton diambil

    untuk sektor R&D ditempat lain. Bayangkan lah satu

    kumpulan Advance Engine Research Proton terus diambil

    oleh Petronas. Bukan sorang…. Kesemuanya. Nak kerja

    dengan R&D proton….. Paling minimum 2nd class upper.

    1st class berlambak. Selepas berpengalaman… Perodua,

    Naza ambil.

    Tapi saya tak marah bila orang kata macam-macam pasal

    proton. Itu hak mereka. Tapi fikirkanlah tenaga yang

    kami beri untuk memajukan negara dalam bidang

    teknologi. Boleh sebut tak company mana lagi dalam

    bidang industri yang betul-betul menggunakan kepakaran

    anak Malaysia dalam bidang R&D ni. Kalau kita tidak

    belajar… sampai bila kita tidak akan tahu. Dan

    sampai bila kita akan bergantung dengan orang luar.

    Tapi bab support selepas jualan…. saya sendiri pun

    tak puas hati. Sabotaj pun Proton dah biasa kena….

    Orang curi part semasa delivery kerata tukar dengan

    part tiruan atau lama. Yang kena komplen… proton.

    Tapi yang hairannya semasa Perodua recall balik 4000

    unit Myvi…. Tak ada pulak yang kutuk. Letak sebelah

    sebelah Myvi dan Savvy… check performance dia. Then

    baru tahu nak kata apa. Jangan dengar orang cakap

    je… test sendiri. Baru tau.

    Sekarang ni Savvy dah keluar dengan Savvy Auto-Manual….

    Maksudnya dua-dua jenis gear ada dalam kereta. Malas

    nak tukar gear… swith to auto. Nak main

    ciluk-ciluk… switch to manual.

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  • Pemilik Exora on Dec 23, 2009 at 1:17 am

    Sapa kata overpriced??? Sapa kata not WORTH it? Sapa kata x der 2nd blower x BEST??? SAPA? SAPA? SAPA? Ada org kata dgn gadget yg P2 sediakan dah cukup berbaloi… At least P2 berkualiti toyota or maybe daihatsu… P1 mmg best ar. Ada ker patut korang nk comparekan Alza ngn Exora? Apa punya akal la yg korg ada ni? Dah tentu ler P2 bercirikan kompak. P1 bercirikan campur2… dah tau Mpv kompak n seat 3rd row kecit wat apa dok kat situ… Sdangkan exora aku ni pon aku x dok kat 3rd row walaupun ada 2nd blower. Dah tau famili besar jgn ler amek kete kecit… Trus amek bas je… P1 ni satu jer yg aku x minat… Signal toggle kat sbelah kiri… Nyampah btol… nyesal pon ada… dh terbeli… pakai jer la… Apa pon kalo nk beli kete tgk poket… It's JUST a CAR from destination 'A' to 'B'… bukan nk letak katil king size, dapur, or maybe almari baju plus sterika… suka2 smash designer plak… kang designer tu smash balik kang baru taw… diorg nyer design… then as a buyer it's depend to us lah… nak beli… BELI.. kalo x nak… SENYAP… or bg opinion yg membina… apa daaaa malaysian…

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  • temakol on Dec 23, 2009 at 2:49 am

    proton exora yang aku x suke=takde besi penghalang depan enjin…..bahaya. mcm Savvy aku ada….selamat enjin kalau eksiden x berapa teruk….even Nissan aku ada gak. Alza ada……tapi bonggol kat tengah seat alza buat alza sempit. tapi overall alza quite ok. terpulang pada taste masing2….kalau ada duit lebih….ambik je Elgrand…..xyah banyak komen.

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  • i saw an original toyota passo sette this evening… small…

    but maybe the medium line… because front center folded seat is not exist.. and yes… its a ladies car..

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  • itu la malaysian……cuma pandai komplen dan kutuk anak bangsa sendiri tak abis…nak banding kan barang pun tak tau…kalau malu nak pakai proton kenapa nak beli?? kalau tak beli buat apa nak kutuk…beri la idea yang membina ckit…kalau banyak sangat duit kenapa tak beli mustang, camaro ka, Nissan GTR ka…tak pun Hummer. ingat buat kereta proton ni macam buat kereta sorong ka? go back to school la brader….insaf…

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  • PentingKanKualiti on Jan 02, 2010 at 4:50 am

    bukan kutuk tapi dah reality. harga mahal tapi kualiti tak bagus. dah 30 tahun proton bertapak di malaysia tapi masalah tetap sama. diorang komplen sebab x mampu beli ketera lain, almaklumlah kereta lain mahal tapi kereta proton jer x mahal.(sebab nak selamatkan proton). kalo la cam nih . kutukan membina tak salah tapi ada ke proton nak improvekan kualiti?. kena ingat kita sebagai pengguna kena memperjuangkan nasib kita, kita juga rakyat malaysia kena memberi kutukan juga untuk kemajuan proton itu sendiri. kepada Proton. SIla improve dalaman dan luaran kereta itu sendiri. aku sebagai rakyat malaysia masih rasa x berbaloi lagi membeli proton jika tarafnya masih setakat ini. tak payahlah politik dalaman proton. kalau tak ,sampai 50 tahun pun kualiti masih sama. kalau baru umur 10 tahun masih boleh kira lagi tapi sekarang.. entahlah

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  • pentingkan kualiti, bila masa plak proton dah 30 tahun? proton rebadge kete dari tahun 1995 n mula blaja buat kete tahun 2000 (waja) betul2 1st proton fully develop gen2 2004. sekarang 2010, kalu ikutkan baru 7 tahun proton buat kete sendiri. so, dalam 7 tahun, proton dah buat gen2, savvy, satria neo, persona, saga blm,exora. so 6 kete dalam 7 tahun n kita nampak improvementnya dari gen2(memang hampeh, quality material kureng ckit, problem fit n finish) sampai exora (kualiti material bagus, sebab tu journalist luar sampai ada ckp, kualiti material exora sama dengan kete korea n jepun. dia ckp sama dengan toyota prius yg baru. ini kualiti material, cume pemilihan warna material menyebabkan org ingat murah, padahal sama je dengan toyota n honda yg dlm kategori. fit n finish,semakin bagus tapi masih x perfect lagi.)

    ramai org komen pasal material wira lagi baik dari exora. sebenarnya, diaorg xtau, kalu baca artikel EPA(environmental protection agency), material mcm dalam wira@kete2 yg dulu2, xkisahlah jepunke, korea ke, xelok untuk environment dan juga kesihatan sebab bleh menyebabkan kanser. sebab tu, mahupun toyota, gunakan hard plastik dalam kete mereka. memang ada soft plastic sama ada rubbered @ padded, tapi material tuh mahal, biasanya kete continental pakai. kete jepun, masih jauh lagi. xcaya, pegilah tengok ford mondeo ke, peugot 308 ke, tengok interior die, honda civic pun masih xbleh lawan material dia.

    so, kalu kata kete malaysia x value for money, amik contoh, persona h-line n honda city gred e. persona h-line, walupun dengan tax, harga dia baru rm 55k, hinda city gred e tanpa tax dalam rm63k. persona tanpa tax mungkin dalam rm45k-50k, so byk beza tuh. accessories sama, persona siap bagi gps lagi. so, pikir2kanlah pentingkan kualiti. kalu bukak forum honda city baru,ada yg tercabut getah pintu walaupun baru seminggu baru beli. so adakah nak ckp honda low quality? bagi saya x, biasalah, kete yg baru, memang ada masalah sana sini.tapi minor je, kdg je nasib x baik. bukan aper, kete sis saya dah bleh isi ikan flowerhorn dalam lampu belakang coz air bertakung, itu toyota vios.

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  • someone who concern? on Jan 10, 2010 at 5:11 am

    pls la all of u….don't gv nonsense talk in this forum….mind ur words….after u'll using that car for such a long time mesti ada rosak ma….mana ada keta yg immortal…wait til i'm using my new ALZA 1.5 ADVANCED VERSION…I'M SATISFY WITH THE PRICE,SPECIFICATIONS AND IT'S PERFORMANCE…no comments at all……..

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  • Noname on Jan 10, 2010 at 5:16 pm

    What i see here is more dengki than knowledge about a car and company.

    If i not mistaken some of the forumer here is from P1 or P2, so that they keep kutuk each other car. As i know both Exora and Alza is different range and it cannot be compared. Did anyone here know the term and condition between perodua and toyota? If don't know please don't kutuk each other's.

    By the way, i not driving a P1 or P2 made car's. Honda Rules!!!!!!!!

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  • johnson on Jan 12, 2010 at 9:41 am

    just book mine,and will get on march .. :)

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  • View from front still ok…

    The rear bumper need to redesign again please P2!!!!

    The rear tail lamp should redesign/ change it like myvi SE clear type…

    The rear really looks bad….

    The rear spoiler at side view still ok, but view from the back a bit ugly…

    P2, I hope u can redesign the front, rear bumper & rear spoiler again, for upcoming Advanced version Alza….

    The price also a bit to pricey/ high!!! Please, RM 3~4k diff for Advanced version is still acceptable… but RM 6k diff is too much!!!

    If 6k diff, at least give a set of sportier 16/ 17 inch rims, not normal original rims…

    P2, please redesign a much more sportier looks for advanced version Alza… don't just simply put some body kits then said it is Advanced!!!!!

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  • P2, please redesign the overall looks…. (Rims also)

    The new myvi Se looks great for me….

    P2, ur designers can do much more better than this, not just add on some bodykits!!! Please…

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  • Lee Hong Huat on Jan 29, 2010 at 8:16 pm

    i just bought produa alza this car look in nice n quick powerful,

    but new some problem ,when i drive turn corner i hear some sound from stalin

    n driver sit window wind sound quick heavy

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  • temakol on Jan 30, 2010 at 3:01 am

    They are comparing by price…..By logic….normal/most people look at budget first…..RM? they have…..then they narrow it down to spec. If I got RM65K, of course I have to choose Exora, Alza, Myvi, Avanza, Persona…then narrow it to spec. If Im a family man….must have 7 seater. So I got Exora, Alza, Avanza. If small family…I can choose mid-MPV like Alza….or o for bigger Exora and Avanza. If BIG family, of course I have to put aside Alza hand opt for Exora or Avanza. If I need to travel long journey, I will pick Exora coz good handling and storage capability. If just for town…I can ignore the bumpy of Avanza….pick it for good resale value.

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  • if got $$$…. ppl wont buy national car….

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  • Peter on Apr 01, 2010 at 4:42 pm

    http://prodas.wordpress.com/2010/03/31/perodua-alza-accident/

    do check out…..this is Malaysian assembled car…….With no standard Euro ENCAP test like EXORA which earned a 4 star rate………MYVAP is a total bullshit……you called this 4 star???

    Hey, Exora is ENCAP certified 4 star ………Alza???????I dunnoe, just another crap MYVAP which claimed Alza as 4 star………..MYVAP is a total bullshit and no standard compared to other EU test……..

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  • ev_kuan on Apr 09, 2010 at 10:39 am

    i alrealy order alza avd around 2 month but still not get yet

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  • edmond on May 03, 2010 at 11:02 pm

    i drving my alza abt 3 month, except the wind sound cmg from front two side window, and brake sound from rear drum…so far i s a good car. cheap petrol rm65 go up to 450km..
    my milage nw abt 8xxxkm. service cheap….
    with the amt of 63K have an small size MPV….is worth of money. Town drv and outstation is a good car.
    The engine power is good. well do think of it….at least the QC is better thn proton…especially the service centre…..

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    • ev_kuan on May 04, 2010 at 1:44 pm

      o…no… 2 n half mth already but still not yet get my new car !!!!!!!
      how come so slowly leeeeeee…??????

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  • zxe chan on May 10, 2010 at 11:41 am

    who can tell me diameter of Alza fog lamp is 3.5 inch or 4 inch??

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  • ahmad on Jun 21, 2010 at 11:41 am

    sy beli myvi baru x sampai setengah tahun..
    dah goyang front seat belah driver..
    pg sc, sy ckp seat belah driver goyang..
    setelah check dia ckp “xpe bleh claim”
    x sampai sebulan sy dpt seat sy..
    thanks perodua..

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  • My 1 years old myvi SE without any problems but the brake system suck!so far so good their service is not bad ( 2 star quality car ) :)

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  • Fezal on Dec 23, 2010 at 7:39 pm

    Eh..Sudahhlahh..Dari kecik sampai ke besar asyik nak bergaduh saja..
    Exora,alza,grand lavina,estima,bmw,toyota ke bapak dia ke datuk dia,siapa ada duit belilah…Tak payah memekak nak menjahanamkan product siapa2..Aku bukan jurujual dan bukan dibayar siapa2 cuma aku bosan tengok orang dok bertekak pasal kereta.Apa..tak ada kerja ke,dah nama pun kereta,manusia yang buat memang akan rosak,tak akan tak rosak punya,kecualilah kereta tu tuhan yang buat,tak begitu?Ke kerja korang memang dok bergaduh pasal kereta..Baik fikir pasal Palestin ke pasal Korea Utara ke tak ada ilmiah dan hadiah pun korang bagi komen kat sini..Aku muak tengok ketidak matangan korang..buang masa aje…Aku bagi nasihat sekadar mengingatkan ummat dan insan..Amin..

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  • Brandon on Mar 14, 2011 at 10:34 am

    Whatever version launch also the same for me………No quality concept car…As I bought the Alza only for 2 months …already facing ECU ( inner wiring ) problem and engine start up problem. The cluster LED light and alarm icon keep blinking even I not enter the car.

    I am so disappointed with bad quality of so called “Versatile As You” MPV.

    The worst thing is even the workshop engineer was unable to give us a concrete solution and my car is in the workshop for a week and the thing that drive me mad was my car become testing unit for their troubleshooting….. after that to my suprise was no one is attending my car when my arrival at the workshop to check out the status. The service was bad as well.

    Be frank, as a consumer, I feel that it not worth my money to buy this problematic car and as a Malaysian I m 100% regret and disappointed to give my support and trust to national car.

    I feel sorry to all Perodua Alza owner as this is just my sharing and the situation I faced…I hope everything be fine for you guy and GOD bless your car.

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  • hi all,

    just sharing that ALZA not bad….for those yg tak suker tu buat lah kete sendiri…for me..with 3 kids and bibik ALZA is most comfortable dah….if weekdays i only drove my own to ofice in Cyberjaya..petrol ok la…

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  • toyota bandung on May 23, 2015 at 6:48 pm

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  • yirrrr on Jan 01, 2016 at 8:49 pm

    wy alza advanced camera belakang kabur? baru pkai 1bulan. wyyyyy

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  • Abd Aziz Bin Abd Karim on May 06, 2022 at 2:09 pm

    Best the best world

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