Comments on: US market Hyundai Sonata to be 4-pot only! http://paultan.org/2009/12/04/us-market-hyundai-sonata-to-be-4-pot-only/ Paul Tan on the Automotive Industry Sun, 27 May 2012 08:44:36 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: ignas http://paultan.org/2009/12/04/us-market-hyundai-sonata-to-be-4-pot-only/#comment-281128 ignas Wed, 09 Dec 2009 22:28:52 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=18351#comment-281128 ffddf <-- fyi, i only commented on its design which is very subjective to individual. i dont see anything about being a loser or winner has to do with it. but if you like, go ahead to feel great about this car yourself. ffddf <– fyi, i only commented on its design which is very subjective to individual. i dont see anything about being a loser or winner has to do with it. but if you like, go ahead to feel great about this car yourself.

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]]> By: hggf http://paultan.org/2009/12/04/us-market-hyundai-sonata-to-be-4-pot-only/#comment-281119 hggf Wed, 09 Dec 2009 21:57:50 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=18351#comment-281119 <a href="http://www.truedelta.com/comparisons101/Optima-vs-Camry-price-comparison.php?session_code=&aff=" rel="nofollow">http://www.truedelta.com/comparisons101/Optima-vs...</a> Specifications Comparison Kia Optima vs. Toyota Camry R1 Headroom 39.8 38.8 R1 Shoulder Room 57.1 57.8 R1 Hip Room 54.5 54.6 R1 Legroom 43.7 41.7 R2 Headroom 38.0 37.8 R2 Shoulder Room 56.3 56.9 R2 Hip Room 54.7 53.9 R2 Legroom 37.8 38.3 Cargo Volume 15.0 15. Kia optima beat Toyota Camry in spacious category. http://www.truedelta.com/comparisons101/Optima-vs…

Specifications Comparison

Kia Optima vs. Toyota Camry

R1 Headroom 39.8 38.8

R1 Shoulder Room 57.1 57.8

R1 Hip Room 54.5 54.6

R1 Legroom 43.7 41.7

R2 Headroom 38.0 37.8

R2 Shoulder Room 56.3 56.9

R2 Hip Room 54.7 53.9

R2 Legroom 37.8 38.3

Cargo Volume 15.0 15.

Kia optima beat Toyota Camry in spacious category.

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]]> By: hggf http://paultan.org/2009/12/04/us-market-hyundai-sonata-to-be-4-pot-only/#comment-281118 hggf Wed, 09 Dec 2009 21:56:34 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=18351#comment-281118 @Jimmy Just like Forte and Optima, the back seats are just too short for my leg and I am only 1.72cm!!!! Beat Camry/Accord flat?? --------------- Check it out, Old Hyundai Sonata vs. Toyota Camry Hyundai Sonata vs. Toyota Camry R1 Headroom 40.1 38.8 R1 Shoulder Room 57.4 57.8 R1 Hip Room 55.5 54.6 R1 Legroom 43.7 41.7 R2 Headroom 38.2 37.8 R2 Shoulder Room 56.9 56.9 R2 Hip Room 55.3 53.9 R2 Legroom 37.4 38.3 Cargo Volume 16.3 15.0 <a href="http://www.truedelta.com/comparisons101/Sonata-vs-Camry-price-comparison.php?session_code=&aff=" rel="nofollow">http://www.truedelta.com/comparisons101/Sonata-vs...</a> Except for 'R1 Shoulder Room', Hyundai Sonata (Current Model, Not newer) beat Toyota Camry in every spacious category. @Jimmy

Just like Forte and Optima, the back seats are just too short for my leg and I am only 1.72cm!!!! Beat Camry/Accord flat??

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Check it out,

Old Hyundai Sonata vs. Toyota Camry

Hyundai Sonata vs. Toyota Camry

R1 Headroom 40.1 38.8

R1 Shoulder Room 57.4 57.8

R1 Hip Room 55.5 54.6

R1 Legroom 43.7 41.7

R2 Headroom 38.2 37.8

R2 Shoulder Room 56.9 56.9

R2 Hip Room 55.3 53.9

R2 Legroom 37.4 38.3

Cargo Volume 16.3 15.0

http://www.truedelta.com/comparisons101/Sonata-vs…

Except for 'R1 Shoulder Room', Hyundai Sonata (Current Model, Not newer) beat Toyota Camry in every spacious category.

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]]> By: hggf http://paultan.org/2009/12/04/us-market-hyundai-sonata-to-be-4-pot-only/#comment-281114 hggf Wed, 09 Dec 2009 21:47:46 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=18351#comment-281114 Jimmy said, December 4, 2009 @ 11:35 pm Disaster is the rear seats are too short, to creat an illusion of large leg room??? Just like Forte and Optima, the back seats are just too short for my leg and I am only 1.72cm!!!! ---------------- You are typical liar. I am a 1.92cm, I have 2007 Hyundai sonata, The backseat space is enough. and Sonata is only midsize car category in "Large" car by US EPA. because it spacious. and i see this sonata in LA auto show, its backseat is spacious enough. i though its roof is not tall at initial, but, it is not. it is enough spacious, and my head does not reach roof. Jimmy said,

December 4, 2009 @ 11:35 pm

Disaster is the rear seats are too short, to creat an illusion of large leg room??? Just like Forte and Optima, the back seats are just too short for my leg and I am only 1.72cm!!!!

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You are typical liar.

I am a 1.92cm, I have 2007 Hyundai sonata, The backseat space is enough. and Sonata is only midsize car category in "Large" car by US EPA. because it spacious.

and i see this sonata in LA auto show, its backseat is spacious enough. i though its roof is not tall at initial, but, it is not. it is enough spacious, and my head does not reach roof.

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]]> By: ffddf http://paultan.org/2009/12/04/us-market-hyundai-sonata-to-be-4-pot-only/#comment-280979 ffddf Wed, 09 Dec 2009 15:24:39 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=18351#comment-280979 ignas <- sound like a typical loser who always have inferior complex to great product/people ignas <- sound like a typical loser who always have inferior complex to great product/people

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]]> By: maa http://paultan.org/2009/12/04/us-market-hyundai-sonata-to-be-4-pot-only/#comment-280849 maa Wed, 09 Dec 2009 03:29:42 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=18351#comment-280849 Wow factor is really there!! Wow factor is really there!!

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]]> By: Jimmy http://paultan.org/2009/12/04/us-market-hyundai-sonata-to-be-4-pot-only/#comment-280812 Jimmy Tue, 08 Dec 2009 22:42:51 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=18351#comment-280812 Most people who drive Hyundai/Kia C-segment/above cars, earn their money through proper channel, and even they run bisnes, they don't cheat. They know their money are hard-earned and they want value-for-money cars. A lot of cars out there are just seriously overpriced, you can just compare them with Kia Forte 2.0. I hardly see any black-tinted aggressively modified C- or D-segment Hyundai/Kia cars. You see a lot of these Ah-Beng cars are Local or Japs. Tien Hong with their easily earned money I guessed. Most people who drive Hyundai/Kia C-segment/above cars, earn their money through proper channel, and even they run bisnes, they don't cheat. They know their money are hard-earned and they want value-for-money cars. A lot of cars out there are just seriously overpriced, you can just compare them with Kia Forte 2.0. I hardly see any black-tinted aggressively modified C- or D-segment Hyundai/Kia cars. You see a lot of these Ah-Beng cars are Local or Japs. Tien Hong with their easily earned money I guessed.

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]]> By: ignas http://paultan.org/2009/12/04/us-market-hyundai-sonata-to-be-4-pot-only/#comment-280718 ignas Tue, 08 Dec 2009 16:42:04 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=18351#comment-280718 the line at the doors are too aggressive. design cue copied from other makers while it design language is screaming "my front is melting!!" or "my boobs is sagging!!" or "my botox is not working!!" or perhaps the msg they trying to convey is "pls drive me if you're not happy, i'll make sure everyone knows it" fugly. the line at the doors are too aggressive. design cue copied from other makers while it design language is screaming "my front is melting!!" or "my boobs is sagging!!" or "my botox is not working!!" or perhaps the msg they trying to convey is "pls drive me if you're not happy, i'll make sure everyone knows it"

fugly.

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]]> By: ff http://paultan.org/2009/12/04/us-market-hyundai-sonata-to-be-4-pot-only/#comment-280662 ff Tue, 08 Dec 2009 13:09:04 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=18351#comment-280662 Recent Hyundai bring Quality, Reliability, Durability and resale value is improving Recent Hyundai bring Quality, Reliability, Durability and resale value is improving

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]]> By: Netz http://paultan.org/2009/12/04/us-market-hyundai-sonata-to-be-4-pot-only/#comment-280657 Netz Tue, 08 Dec 2009 12:56:07 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=18351#comment-280657 The looks is awful....Camry and Accord anytime.... Again the question begs....What has Sonata got to offer.? Honda & Toyota bring Quality, Reliability, Durability and resale value to the table. Conti bring handling to the table... Korean ...hmmm....maybe lower price..... The looks is awful….Camry and Accord anytime….

Again the question begs….What has Sonata got to offer.?

Honda & Toyota bring Quality, Reliability, Durability and resale value to the table.

Conti bring handling to the table…

Korean …hmmm….maybe lower price…..

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]]> By: bEn http://paultan.org/2009/12/04/us-market-hyundai-sonata-to-be-4-pot-only/#comment-280553 bEn Tue, 08 Dec 2009 05:48:22 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=18351#comment-280553 walao....looks like combination 3 types of cars : BMW 3 series + Mercedes Benz CLS + Honday City ............ walao….looks like combination 3 types of cars : BMW 3 series + Mercedes Benz CLS + Honday City …………

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]]> By: Rrrrr http://paultan.org/2009/12/04/us-market-hyundai-sonata-to-be-4-pot-only/#comment-280477 Rrrrr Mon, 07 Dec 2009 21:03:02 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=18351#comment-280477 Bull shit Korea... eat dogs. Pump attendance at petrol station will not serve you if driving foreign car in Korea.. Stupid Malaysian people. Bull shit Korea… eat dogs. Pump attendance at petrol station will not serve you if driving foreign car in Korea.. Stupid Malaysian people.

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]]> By: h3faysoy http://paultan.org/2009/12/04/us-market-hyundai-sonata-to-be-4-pot-only/#comment-280412 h3faysoy Mon, 07 Dec 2009 17:03:38 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=18351#comment-280412 I think Hyundai is trying to slowly move the Sonata away from the Accord/Camry segment and concentrate on upscale luxury cars like the Mercedes CLS, Lexus ES. I think Hyundai is trying to slowly move the Sonata away from the Accord/Camry segment and concentrate on upscale luxury cars like the Mercedes CLS, Lexus ES.

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]]> By: davv http://paultan.org/2009/12/04/us-market-hyundai-sonata-to-be-4-pot-only/#comment-280310 davv Mon, 07 Dec 2009 11:30:35 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=18351#comment-280310 lmst said, December 5, 2009 @ 7:24 am photoshop honda city..hehhehee ----------------------------- Gosh....when on earth are we Malaysians going to grow up and be more matured?? If they ever wanted to copy, there are FAR FAR better car to copy than a Thailand City........Korean are now shifting to a much higher gear now and they are trying to achieve a Continental standard and not even want to be compared with the Japanese. lmst said,

December 5, 2009 @ 7:24 am

photoshop honda city..hehhehee

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Gosh….when on earth are we Malaysians going to grow up and be more matured?? If they ever wanted to copy, there are FAR FAR better car to copy than a Thailand City……..Korean are now shifting to a much higher gear now and they are trying to achieve a Continental standard and not even want to be compared with the Japanese.

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]]> By: wallstreet http://paultan.org/2009/12/04/us-market-hyundai-sonata-to-be-4-pot-only/#comment-280307 wallstreet Mon, 07 Dec 2009 11:20:14 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=18351#comment-280307 wiraone said, December 5, 2009 @ 7:01 am Those who commented on every new cars shown in the website as being a copy of others .. I would say, they’re just plain STUPID .. (with the exception of those cars coming out of China that it). The Koreans have spent their money having design & research centres at countries where the auto industry have matured for a reason .. not copying .. but to excel.. they’re hiring the designers to design their latest cars. And comparing Sonata with City and the likes .. gosh.. you guys are cheap.. ----------------------------------------------------------- I also wanted to say the same thing...Just because they saw 1 small bit of similarity from their USUAL H & T, its a copy....and yes, by comparing a 'cheap' City with this car is.....-speechless- By the way to all who say this copying thing, shall I say City rims copied from Mazda 6, 3? Sigh...... wiraone said,

December 5, 2009 @ 7:01 am

Those who commented on every new cars shown in the website as being a copy of others .. I would say, they’re just plain STUPID .. (with the exception of those cars coming out of China that it). The Koreans have spent their money having design & research centres at countries where the auto industry have matured for a reason .. not copying .. but to excel.. they’re hiring the designers to design their latest cars. And comparing Sonata with City and the likes .. gosh.. you guys are cheap..

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I also wanted to say the same thing…Just because they saw 1 small bit of similarity from their USUAL H & T, its a copy….and yes, by comparing a 'cheap' City with this car is…..-speechless- By the way to all who say this copying thing, shall I say City rims copied from Mazda 6, 3? Sigh……

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]]> By: alpha999 http://paultan.org/2009/12/04/us-market-hyundai-sonata-to-be-4-pot-only/#comment-280269 alpha999 Mon, 07 Dec 2009 09:09:25 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=18351#comment-280269 tot of getting a merz cls 350 but after looking at...this babe ...this is good enuff probably for half the price... tot of getting a merz cls 350 but after looking at…this babe …this is good enuff probably for half the price…

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]]> By: zman http://paultan.org/2009/12/04/us-market-hyundai-sonata-to-be-4-pot-only/#comment-280248 zman Mon, 07 Dec 2009 03:10:05 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=18351#comment-280248 sparrow said, December 5, 2009 @ 1:16 am yeah.. whatever car korea made is copy cat~ this is typical malaysian mind… and all korea car was bad FC, bad quality and bad this bad that… copy of honda city? biggest joke in the world. --------------------------------------------------------- then we should be fair to proton also rite.... sparrow said,

December 5, 2009 @ 1:16 am

yeah..

whatever car korea made is copy cat~

this is typical malaysian mind…

and all korea car was bad FC, bad quality and bad this bad that…

copy of honda city? biggest joke in the world.

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then we should be fair to proton also rite….

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]]> By: metiew http://paultan.org/2009/12/04/us-market-hyundai-sonata-to-be-4-pot-only/#comment-280234 metiew Mon, 07 Dec 2009 00:31:44 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=18351#comment-280234 nice design and well built.atleast they put every piece together so well, from front till back looks great and the interiors design are up to date with futuristic look.i believe that hyundai designers and engineers are doing their job. i been thinking that, how good if our proton can follow our korean friend foot step and able to produce this kind of quality cars for our malaysian. as we all know that hyundai and proton has some similarity as both this car manufacture are jv with mitsubishi in the 80's to produce car. i believe now our proton are very far behind n before proton can reach the current level of achievement as hyundai now i guess they aready close shop or it will make our malaysian driver nightmaren and miserable i wonder why some of our friend here keep criticising this senate is copying other car manufacture n even worst are those guy saying that it copying the honda city. i would say if the latest honda city has more then 50% similarity of this sonata it would had kill the vios long time ago but the sales figure is still far back compare to vios. from my point of view that the korean are just following the trend and they are not copying. if you really compare to other car manufacture in this recent years,their design are very close with all the body curve and the size.this means everyone is copying. the last word...atleast the korean hyundai had built a nice n luxurious sonata for korean nice design and well built.atleast they put every piece together so well, from front till back looks great and the interiors design are up to date with futuristic look.i believe that hyundai designers and engineers are doing their job.

i been thinking that, how good if our proton can follow our korean friend foot step and able to produce this kind of quality cars for our malaysian. as we all know that hyundai and proton has some similarity as both this car manufacture are jv with mitsubishi in the 80's to produce car. i believe now our proton are very far behind n before proton can reach the current level of achievement as hyundai now i guess they aready close shop or it will make our malaysian driver nightmaren and miserable

i wonder why some of our friend here keep criticising this senate is copying other car manufacture n even worst are those guy saying that it copying the honda city. i would say if the latest honda city has more then 50% similarity of this sonata it would had kill the vios long time ago but the sales figure is still far back compare to vios.

from my point of view that the korean are just following the trend and they are not copying. if you really compare to other car manufacture in this recent years,their design are very close with all the body curve and the size.this means everyone is copying. the last word…atleast the korean hyundai had built a nice n luxurious sonata for korean

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]]> By: Rhys Miller http://paultan.org/2009/12/04/us-market-hyundai-sonata-to-be-4-pot-only/#comment-280232 Rhys Miller Mon, 07 Dec 2009 00:07:59 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=18351#comment-280232 Go to Korea ... see the real thing ... you will be impressed. Go to Korea … see the real thing … you will be impressed.

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]]> By: fdf http://paultan.org/2009/12/04/us-market-hyundai-sonata-to-be-4-pot-only/#comment-280222 fdf Sun, 06 Dec 2009 22:59:12 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=18351#comment-280222 it is not copy. except for mercedes CLS line, i can't find any single "copy". It is very radical changed car. no auto maker making this type of looking. it is not copy.

except for mercedes CLS line, i can't find any single "copy".

It is very radical changed car. no auto maker making this type of looking.

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]]> By: anonymous http://paultan.org/2009/12/04/us-market-hyundai-sonata-to-be-4-pot-only/#comment-280218 anonymous Sun, 06 Dec 2009 22:37:29 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=18351#comment-280218 oh my gawd... hideous to the max...only because everything on this car looks like it came from everywhere else! linear_system said, December 4, 2009 @ 7:23 pm it said, December 4, 2009 @ 6:45 pm well… at least the korean are good in copying… n they r dare to do it.. what happens to our local boy at proton? sleeping & goyang kaki? _____________________________________________________________________ but if proton copy u’ll say…what la proton only knows how to copy n paste..bluerghh… _____________________________________________________________________ haha good one, there's just no pleasing malaysians no matter what their local carmakers do is there? haha i feel your stress oh my gawd… hideous to the max…only because everything on this car looks like it came from everywhere else!

linear_system said,

December 4, 2009 @ 7:23 pm

it said,

December 4, 2009 @ 6:45 pm

well… at least the korean are good in copying… n they r dare to do it..

what happens to our local boy at proton? sleeping & goyang kaki?

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but if proton copy u’ll say…what la proton only knows how to copy n paste..bluerghh…

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haha good one, there's just no pleasing malaysians no matter what their local carmakers do is there? haha i feel your stress

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]]> By: torque http://paultan.org/2009/12/04/us-market-hyundai-sonata-to-be-4-pot-only/#comment-280206 torque Sun, 06 Dec 2009 18:08:51 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=18351#comment-280206 Cut, paste, copying or whatever....Hyundai/Kia have proof their worthiness with leaps and bound....stop looking down at Korean. Their are currently at top 5 in the world now...where are we? I'm proud of my country but it's time to cut the old act...berlagak sombong!!! Why can't the rest of us open our eyes? Talking like we and Proton as we are best of the best? Why? Coz we owned Lotus and that gave us the bragging rights?!! As I see it...the best recipe for success is being HUMBLE and see others success as a CHALLENGE not as a MOCKING tools. Good job Hyundai! Cut, paste, copying or whatever….Hyundai/Kia have proof their worthiness with leaps and bound….stop looking down at Korean. Their are currently at top 5 in the world now…where are we? I'm proud of my country but it's time to cut the old act…berlagak sombong!!!

Why can't the rest of us open our eyes? Talking like we and Proton as we are best of the best? Why? Coz we owned Lotus and that gave us the bragging rights?!! As I see it…the best recipe for success is being HUMBLE and see others success as a CHALLENGE not as a MOCKING tools.

Good job Hyundai!

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]]> By: Nic http://paultan.org/2009/12/04/us-market-hyundai-sonata-to-be-4-pot-only/#comment-280199 Nic Sun, 06 Dec 2009 17:25:49 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=18351#comment-280199 If this exact specs is coming into Malaysia, and the high specs is around RM100k, I'll take it without second thought.. If this exact specs is coming into Malaysia, and the high specs is around RM100k, I'll take it without second thought..

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]]> By: Nic http://paultan.org/2009/12/04/us-market-hyundai-sonata-to-be-4-pot-only/#comment-280196 Nic Sun, 06 Dec 2009 17:20:51 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=18351#comment-280196 MyDear said, December 4, 2009 @ 5:56 pm honda city copy paste? where is my spec.. ----------------------------------------------------------------- Typical Arrogant Bastard~! MyDear said,

December 4, 2009 @ 5:56 pm

honda city copy paste? where is my spec..

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Typical Arrogant Bastard~!

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]]> By: fdf http://paultan.org/2009/12/04/us-market-hyundai-sonata-to-be-4-pot-only/#comment-280175 fdf Sun, 06 Dec 2009 07:18:57 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=18351#comment-280175 I can't find any single "copy" . Except for Merceds CLS, btw, Much better looking than boring Camry/accord/altima. I can't find any single "copy" .

Except for Merceds CLS, btw, Much better looking than boring Camry/accord/altima.

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]]> By: msi http://paultan.org/2009/12/04/us-market-hyundai-sonata-to-be-4-pot-only/#comment-280158 msi Sat, 05 Dec 2009 23:54:54 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=18351#comment-280158 tak best. tak best.

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]]> By: zidane http://paultan.org/2009/12/04/us-market-hyundai-sonata-to-be-4-pot-only/#comment-280156 zidane Sat, 05 Dec 2009 23:23:12 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=18351#comment-280156 Looks ugly... A lot of copy and paste.... Looks ugly…

A lot of copy and paste….

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]]> By: Jone http://paultan.org/2009/12/04/us-market-hyundai-sonata-to-be-4-pot-only/#comment-280137 Jone Sat, 05 Dec 2009 20:31:50 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=18351#comment-280137 lol ugly. the front looks it has been deformed lol ugly. the front looks it has been deformed

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]]> By: hazri http://paultan.org/2009/12/04/us-market-hyundai-sonata-to-be-4-pot-only/#comment-280130 hazri Sat, 05 Dec 2009 18:36:00 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=18351#comment-280130 civic+camry+accord+city huh civic+camry+accord+city huh

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]]> By: squawk http://paultan.org/2009/12/04/us-market-hyundai-sonata-to-be-4-pot-only/#comment-280127 squawk Sat, 05 Dec 2009 16:53:00 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=18351#comment-280127 It's about time Americans drive cars with smaller engines. It's about time Americans drive cars with smaller engines.

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