Comments on: Singapore International Arbitration Centre: Proton termination of Goldstar JV contract is valid http://paultan.org/2010/02/08/singapore-international-arbitration-centre-proton-termination-of-goldstar-jv-contract-is-valid/ Paul Tan on the Automotive Industry Wed, 15 Feb 2012 04:02:11 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Victim http://paultan.org/2010/02/08/singapore-international-arbitration-centre-proton-termination-of-goldstar-jv-contract-is-valid/#comment-298266 Victim Thu, 11 Feb 2010 09:12:54 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=22085#comment-298266 Proton? Owh nooo!!! please... Proton? Owh nooo!!! please…

]]> By: Mud http://paultan.org/2010/02/08/singapore-international-arbitration-centre-proton-termination-of-goldstar-jv-contract-is-valid/#comment-298173 Mud Thu, 11 Feb 2010 00:08:47 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=22085#comment-298173 mcm ni laa org kita ish3... bru pkai avanza ngn myvi dah mula nk hina proton ish3...masing2 bjet dorg Jimmy Clarkson ish3.... haish...kalu la proton xde...org kite gak yg susah....ish3 kcian proton...xwat enjin kata xinovatif bila da wat kata underpower ak rasa org yg bash2 ni ckp berdasarkn khabar angin jee laa...ish3 mcm ni laa org kita ish3…

bru pkai avanza ngn myvi dah mula nk hina proton ish3…masing2 bjet dorg Jimmy Clarkson ish3….

haish…kalu la proton xde…org kite gak yg susah….ish3

kcian proton…xwat enjin kata xinovatif bila da wat kata underpower

ak rasa org yg bash2 ni ckp berdasarkn khabar angin jee laa…ish3

]]> By: FarredBurn http://paultan.org/2010/02/08/singapore-international-arbitration-centre-proton-termination-of-goldstar-jv-contract-is-valid/#comment-298166 FarredBurn Wed, 10 Feb 2010 23:43:02 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=22085#comment-298166 Hameed Koyakuti oooo Hameed Koyakuti improvement + achivement = Proton 2000-Waja (first 100% designed by our local people) 2003- first engine Campro 2008- Campro CPS (125hp)..compare wif Mazda3 laaa 2009- first Malaysian mpv Perodua = 0 nothing to be proud of (=.=)" Hameed Koyakuti oooo Hameed Koyakuti

improvement + achivement = Proton

2000-Waja (first 100% designed by our local people)

2003- first engine Campro

2008- Campro CPS (125hp)..compare wif Mazda3 laaa

2009- first Malaysian mpv

Perodua = 0

nothing to be proud of

(=.=)"

]]> By: Eyesore http://paultan.org/2010/02/08/singapore-international-arbitration-centre-proton-termination-of-goldstar-jv-contract-is-valid/#comment-297986 Eyesore Wed, 10 Feb 2010 14:55:19 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=22085#comment-297986 Lol in your dreams SY0H.... It's No-Tax land... obv those cars will a lil bit cheaper... duh... you thought govt server dun earn much eh? With recent increase in salary for the gomen ppll... they gaji r even higher than starting salary of a fresh graduate engineer... so apa nak heran the can buy merc or mitsu at no tax??? Without tax ppl in Kl can by Ferari n Burgatti Veyron??? I wonder what kind of wet dreams you r having now?? With Tera Patrick n Baby Rina in it??????????????? Lol in your dreams SY0H…. It's No-Tax land… obv those cars will a lil bit cheaper… duh… you thought govt server dun earn much eh? With recent increase in salary for the gomen ppll… they gaji r even higher than starting salary of a fresh graduate engineer… so apa nak heran the can buy merc or mitsu at no tax??? Without tax ppl in Kl can by Ferari n Burgatti Veyron??? I wonder what kind of wet dreams you r having now?? With Tera Patrick n Baby Rina in it???????????????

]]> By: Hameed Koyakuti http://paultan.org/2010/02/08/singapore-international-arbitration-centre-proton-termination-of-goldstar-jv-contract-is-valid/#comment-297979 Hameed Koyakuti Wed, 10 Feb 2010 14:25:17 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=22085#comment-297979 Aikkk, u started with presenting JD survey report, now u are questioning their criteria...??? apa ni??? Eventhough i am also against P2, but if u look n xperience P2 service, u'll notice the diff. I'm not bias n i'm not ignorant, my argument is based on facts...facts... and i present my case n arguing yours.... of coz u r lazy to continue the pointless argument becoz your argument is pointless and baseless...if u calculate the index VS industry std, the improvement will plot n M chart, which explain - no significant improvement + no consistency + naik turun Aikkk, u started with presenting JD survey report, now u are questioning their criteria…??? apa ni???

Eventhough i am also against P2, but if u look n xperience P2 service, u'll notice the diff.

I'm not bias n i'm not ignorant, my argument is based on facts…facts… and i present my case n arguing yours….

of coz u r lazy to continue the pointless argument becoz your argument is pointless and baseless…if u calculate the index VS industry std, the improvement will plot n M chart, which explain – no significant improvement + no consistency + naik turun

]]> By: Eyesore http://paultan.org/2010/02/08/singapore-international-arbitration-centre-proton-termination-of-goldstar-jv-contract-is-valid/#comment-297954 Eyesore Wed, 10 Feb 2010 12:57:26 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=22085#comment-297954 well... tokmoh there's no point argue with ignorant and bias ppl like kimi n koyakutta... even survey from independent 3rd party like JD Power also said to be wrong... what else to be said... later they'll say P1 paid the JD power ppl to give good ratings. So Koyakutta... based on your so called right way of calculating the Customer Satisfaction Index... whats P1 marks and whats P2 marks? Figure..... not just a statement like P1 no improvement p2 a lot of improvement... that will be baseless and sounds dumb... well… tokmoh there's no point argue with ignorant and bias ppl like kimi n koyakutta…

even survey from independent 3rd party like JD Power also said to be wrong… what else to be said… later they'll say P1 paid the JD power ppl to give good ratings.

So Koyakutta… based on your so called right way of calculating the Customer Satisfaction Index… whats P1 marks and whats P2 marks? Figure….. not just a statement like P1 no improvement p2 a lot of improvement… that will be baseless and sounds dumb…

]]> By: SY0H http://paultan.org/2010/02/08/singapore-international-arbitration-centre-proton-termination-of-goldstar-jv-contract-is-valid/#comment-297948 SY0H Wed, 10 Feb 2010 12:40:17 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=22085#comment-297948 Owh yeah, recently I visited a no-tax land of Langkawi and Labuan. Even the "kampung" folks over there can drive Mitsubishi Grandis CBU, Mitsubishi Lancer GT, BMW 3 series and only the really-really poor folks drives Proton or Perodua. Guess what, they only work "hard" as government servant and open some small restaurant that works "hard" in the afternoon only. You see, when the country's resources is manage properly (without misuse and bribery), everybody is making money. Poor people over there can still drive a car, that's a huge difference in KL where poor people have to drive kapchais (motorcycle), get it? Hahaha, and the rest of the normal "professional" and "executives" at KL drives Proton and Perodua. Meanwhile, those super rich "professional" can only drive Honda or Toyota or BMW while in fact they could have own Buggati Veyron, Brabus and Ferrari. Plain ignorant people (as shown by some comments above) will have a hard time understanding some of these economic logic and explanations. Owh yeah, recently I visited a no-tax land of Langkawi and Labuan. Even the "kampung" folks over there can drive Mitsubishi Grandis CBU, Mitsubishi Lancer GT, BMW 3 series and only the really-really poor folks drives Proton or Perodua. Guess what, they only work "hard" as government servant and open some small restaurant that works "hard" in the afternoon only. You see, when the country's resources is manage properly (without misuse and bribery), everybody is making money. Poor people over there can still drive a car, that's a huge difference in KL where poor people have to drive kapchais (motorcycle), get it? Hahaha, and the rest of the normal "professional" and "executives" at KL drives Proton and Perodua. Meanwhile, those super rich "professional" can only drive Honda or Toyota or BMW while in fact they could have own Buggati Veyron, Brabus and Ferrari.

Plain ignorant people (as shown by some comments above) will have a hard time understanding some of these economic logic and explanations.

]]> By: SY0H http://paultan.org/2010/02/08/singapore-international-arbitration-centre-proton-termination-of-goldstar-jv-contract-is-valid/#comment-297940 SY0H Wed, 10 Feb 2010 12:26:56 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=22085#comment-297940 Whether it is Motoring Industry, Manufacturing, Mamak-ing and et-cetera, all follow the Construction Industry methodology. There's a Client, Contractor/Supplier and there's this what we called as "middleman" (tongkat ali baba) that makes money from thin air. Maybe option A did not comply to "middleman" needs. But, option B willing to collaborate, so they won it. Simple as that. There's no concept of "earnest" living (honest living) in this world anymore. Halal or haram, everything goes. Got it? Whether it is Motoring Industry, Manufacturing, Mamak-ing and et-cetera, all follow the Construction Industry methodology. There's a Client, Contractor/Supplier and there's this what we called as "middleman" (tongkat ali baba) that makes money from thin air.

Maybe option A did not comply to "middleman" needs.

But, option B willing to collaborate, so they won it.

Simple as that. There's no concept of "earnest" living (honest living) in this world anymore. Halal or haram, everything goes. Got it?

]]> By: tokmoh http://paultan.org/2010/02/08/singapore-international-arbitration-centre-proton-termination-of-goldstar-jv-contract-is-valid/#comment-297894 tokmoh Wed, 10 Feb 2010 10:41:42 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=22085#comment-297894 kimi_ : How ignorant can you be? Those figures are results from independant studies by 3rd party, JD Power Asia Pacific. Well, whatever. Too lazy to further this pointless argument. kimi_ : How ignorant can you be? Those figures are results from independant studies by 3rd party, JD Power Asia Pacific.

Well, whatever. Too lazy to further this pointless argument.

]]> By: nazri http://paultan.org/2010/02/08/singapore-international-arbitration-centre-proton-termination-of-goldstar-jv-contract-is-valid/#comment-297886 nazri Wed, 10 Feb 2010 10:18:56 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=22085#comment-297886 orang malas cam ni la.. 1: bila tak dpt beli kereta salahkan gomen, kete mahal.. semua mahal... 2: bila T jual facelift kete mahal salahkan tax 3: bila p2 takde export kete salahkan org lain juga.. 4: bila pedal minyak sekat salahkan tikar getah bila nk salahkan diri sendiri?? orang malas cam ni la..

1: bila tak dpt beli kereta salahkan gomen, kete mahal.. semua mahal…

2: bila T jual facelift kete mahal salahkan tax

3: bila p2 takde export kete salahkan org lain juga..

4: bila pedal minyak sekat salahkan tikar getah

bila nk salahkan diri sendiri??

]]> By: Hameed Koyakuti http://paultan.org/2010/02/08/singapore-international-arbitration-centre-proton-termination-of-goldstar-jv-contract-is-valid/#comment-297883 Hameed Koyakuti Wed, 10 Feb 2010 09:55:21 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=22085#comment-297883 tolol ka lu dua orang, dont know how to read the JD survey report ka??? Every year the criteria taken in consideration changes. So, any incremental in the index does not reflect a true increment in customer satisfaction. JD survey needs to be read by comparing current year index minusing the industry std. Yes, total y-o-y index for P1 increase but if u minus the industry std, P1 no improvement. Haiyaa, bodohnya tokmoh n eyesore, suka cut n paste but dont know the meaning.... ....and pls dont bring up Frost & Sullivan figures coz they are the service provider for P1. They claim that their figure is without prejudice and independent, but for the sake of argument with me, pls dont use their figure yaaaa.... tolol ka lu dua orang, dont know how to read the JD survey report ka???

Every year the criteria taken in consideration changes. So, any incremental in the index does not reflect a true increment in customer satisfaction.

JD survey needs to be read by comparing current year index minusing the industry std. Yes, total y-o-y index for P1 increase but if u minus the industry std, P1 no improvement.

Haiyaa, bodohnya tokmoh n eyesore, suka cut n paste but dont know the meaning….

….and pls dont bring up Frost & Sullivan figures coz they are the service provider for P1. They claim that their figure is without prejudice and independent, but for the sake of argument with me, pls dont use their figure yaaaa….

]]> By: Eyesore http://paultan.org/2010/02/08/singapore-international-arbitration-centre-proton-termination-of-goldstar-jv-contract-is-valid/#comment-297857 Eyesore Wed, 10 Feb 2010 08:22:15 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=22085#comment-297857 sorry late to reply on the customer satisfaction index...but since Tokmoh already did that... thanks.... sorry late to reply on the customer satisfaction index…but since Tokmoh already did that… thanks….

]]> By: Hameed Koyakuti http://paultan.org/2010/02/08/singapore-international-arbitration-centre-proton-termination-of-goldstar-jv-contract-is-valid/#comment-297855 Hameed Koyakuti Wed, 10 Feb 2010 08:16:49 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=22085#comment-297855 Kenapa lah Eyesore ni bodoh sgt??? "1. I did not say that P1 will overtake P2 sales volume, NEVER.. but what i said the sales are better than the previous management….. r u trying to spin my statement???" - so show when does the sales volume is better than previous mgmt?? 2. ".....And did P1 says they goona sell 30000 units in 2007? NO! so where is the lie????? - kenapa kau ni bodoh sgt, its a 20 mths contract, not 7 yrs.... eyesore, pls dissappear fm this blog n mingle with high level ppl....... u summons blind basher to dissappear, i summons blind supporter like u (eyesore) to vanish..... FYI, i cannot enter P1 MD office, but i like to read published n unpublished report, that's how u get infos..... Nudin, hv u check with Port Klang report?? What they say??? Kenapa lah Eyesore ni bodoh sgt???

"1. I did not say that P1 will overtake P2 sales volume, NEVER.. but what i said the sales are better than the previous management….. r u trying to spin my statement???" – so show when does the sales volume is better than previous mgmt??

2. "…..And did P1 says they goona sell 30000 units in 2007? NO! so where is the lie????? – kenapa kau ni bodoh sgt, its a 20 mths contract, not 7 yrs….

eyesore, pls dissappear fm this blog n mingle with high level ppl…….

u summons blind basher to dissappear, i summons blind supporter like u (eyesore) to vanish…..

FYI, i cannot enter P1 MD office, but i like to read published n unpublished report, that's how u get infos…..

Nudin, hv u check with Port Klang report?? What they say???

]]> By: nudin http://paultan.org/2010/02/08/singapore-international-arbitration-centre-proton-termination-of-goldstar-jv-contract-is-valid/#comment-297829 nudin Wed, 10 Feb 2010 02:52:15 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=22085#comment-297829 bring back the post.. The deal involves a minimum of 30,000 Proton GEN2 CBU cars that wil be rebadged in China under the brand EUROPESTAR and eventually Youngman and Proton (through Lotus Engineering) will be developing a new range of EUROPESTAR cars together. This supply contract is for a period of 20 months from the date of the first delivery of vehicles. just check with port klang or port that manage the shipment and koyakutta u will know the figure if y curious to know bring back the post..

The deal involves a minimum of 30,000 Proton GEN2 CBU cars that wil be rebadged in China under the brand EUROPESTAR and eventually Youngman and Proton (through Lotus Engineering) will be developing a new range of EUROPESTAR cars together. This supply contract is for a period of 20 months from the date of the first delivery of vehicles.

just check with port klang or port that manage the shipment

and koyakutta u will know the figure if y curious to know

]]> By: oldwira http://paultan.org/2010/02/08/singapore-international-arbitration-centre-proton-termination-of-goldstar-jv-contract-is-valid/#comment-297818 oldwira Wed, 10 Feb 2010 01:20:04 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=22085#comment-297818 Dear Anyone who Stupid, At least Proton already exported 2000 units to China, and sold about 20k units annually in more than 30 countries globally, kinda they are a global player though still small. But how many units Perodua exported abroad, how many sold in Singapore and Thailand? haha what a jerk... Dear Anyone who Stupid,

At least Proton already exported 2000 units to China, and sold about 20k units annually in more than 30 countries globally, kinda they are a global player though still small. But how many units Perodua exported abroad, how many sold in Singapore and Thailand? haha what a jerk…

]]> By: bashbash http://paultan.org/2010/02/08/singapore-international-arbitration-centre-proton-termination-of-goldstar-jv-contract-is-valid/#comment-297803 bashbash Wed, 10 Feb 2010 00:07:18 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=22085#comment-297803 u tak percaya u punya pasal la.. i also dun believe the savvy fuel figure.. until i test it..it actually better than what they stated in the brochure.. tipu punya proton..kata save skit rupanya save minyak lagi byk.. u tak percaya u punya pasal la..

i also dun believe the savvy fuel figure..

until i test it..it actually better than what they stated in the brochure..

tipu punya proton..kata save skit rupanya save minyak lagi byk..

]]> By: bmpower http://paultan.org/2010/02/08/singapore-international-arbitration-centre-proton-termination-of-goldstar-jv-contract-is-valid/#comment-297772 bmpower Tue, 09 Feb 2010 22:40:24 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=22085#comment-297772 sohai koyakutti. balik india la deyy! sohai koyakutti.

balik india la deyy!

]]> By: kimi_ http://paultan.org/2010/02/08/singapore-international-arbitration-centre-proton-termination-of-goldstar-jv-contract-is-valid/#comment-297758 kimi_ Tue, 09 Feb 2010 22:11:16 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=22085#comment-297758 tokmoh said, On customer satisfaction index: JD Sales Satisfaction Index 2008: Proton got 747 points <a href="http://www.motortrader.com.my/NUS/articles/article_1554/page_m.asp" rel="nofollow">http://www.motortrader.com.my/NUS/articles/articl...</a> JD Sales Satisfaction Index 2009: Proton got 771 points <a href="http://www.motortrader.com.my/NUS/articles/article_2082/page_m.asp" rel="nofollow">http://www.motortrader.com.my/NUS/articles/articl...</a> ~~~ JD Customer Satisfaction Index 2007: Proton got 713 points <a href="http://www.motortrader.com.my/NUS/articles/article_1039/c1.JPG" rel="nofollow">http://www.motortrader.com.my/NUS/articles/articl...</a> JD Customer Satisfaction Index 2008: Proton got 720 points <a href="http://www.motortrader.com.my/NUS/articles/article_1523/page_m.asp" rel="nofollow">http://www.motortrader.com.my/NUS/articles/articl...</a> ~~~ Masuk sekolah rendah balik la Hameed Koyakuti… Orang macam ni boleh buat kerja lagi bagus dari management sekarang ke? Harhar. -------------------------------------------------------------------- I dont believe on the figure really.... Proton claimed the Saga BLM can get 16km/liter but the reality is how madly i try and gentle on the pedal also consider lucky if i make it on 10km/liter......... Tokmoh, you also need to go back primary school to repair your "ROJAK" language !!!!!!!! tokmoh said,

On customer satisfaction index:

JD Sales Satisfaction Index 2008: Proton got 747 points http://www.motortrader.com.my/NUS/articles/articl…

JD Sales Satisfaction Index 2009: Proton got 771 points
http://www.motortrader.com.my/NUS/articles/articl…

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JD Customer Satisfaction Index 2007: Proton got 713 points
http://www.motortrader.com.my/NUS/articles/articl…

JD Customer Satisfaction Index 2008: Proton got 720 points
http://www.motortrader.com.my/NUS/articles/articl…

~~~

Masuk sekolah rendah balik la Hameed Koyakuti…

Orang macam ni boleh buat kerja lagi bagus dari management sekarang ke? Harhar.

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I dont believe on the figure really….

Proton claimed the Saga BLM can get 16km/liter but the reality is how madly i try and gentle on the pedal also consider lucky if i make it on 10km/liter………

Tokmoh, you also need to go back primary school to repair your "ROJAK" language !!!!!!!!

]]> By: tokmoh http://paultan.org/2010/02/08/singapore-international-arbitration-centre-proton-termination-of-goldstar-jv-contract-is-valid/#comment-297746 tokmoh Tue, 09 Feb 2010 21:23:03 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=22085#comment-297746 On customer satisfaction index: JD Sales Satisfaction Index 2008: Proton got 747 points <a href="http://www.motortrader.com.my/NUS/articles/article_1554/page_m.asp" rel="nofollow">http://www.motortrader.com.my/NUS/articles/articl...</a> JD Sales Satisfaction Index 2009: Proton got 771 points <a href="http://www.motortrader.com.my/NUS/articles/article_2082/page_m.asp" rel="nofollow">http://www.motortrader.com.my/NUS/articles/articl...</a> ~~~ JD Customer Satisfaction Index 2007: Proton got 713 points <a href="http://www.motortrader.com.my/NUS/articles/article_1039/c1.JPG" rel="nofollow">http://www.motortrader.com.my/NUS/articles/articl...</a> JD Customer Satisfaction Index 2008: Proton got 720 points <a href="http://www.motortrader.com.my/NUS/articles/article_1523/page_m.asp" rel="nofollow">http://www.motortrader.com.my/NUS/articles/articl...</a> ~~~ Masuk sekolah rendah balik la Hameed Koyakuti... Orang macam ni boleh buat kerja lagi bagus dari management sekarang ke? Harhar. On customer satisfaction index:

JD Sales Satisfaction Index 2008: Proton got 747 points http://www.motortrader.com.my/NUS/articles/articl…

JD Sales Satisfaction Index 2009: Proton got 771 points
http://www.motortrader.com.my/NUS/articles/articl…

~~~

JD Customer Satisfaction Index 2007: Proton got 713 points
http://www.motortrader.com.my/NUS/articles/articl…

JD Customer Satisfaction Index 2008: Proton got 720 points
http://www.motortrader.com.my/NUS/articles/articl…

~~~

Masuk sekolah rendah balik la Hameed Koyakuti…

Orang macam ni boleh buat kerja lagi bagus dari management sekarang ke? Harhar.

]]> By: A'enz http://paultan.org/2010/02/08/singapore-international-arbitration-centre-proton-termination-of-goldstar-jv-contract-is-valid/#comment-297741 A'enz Tue, 09 Feb 2010 21:00:24 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=22085#comment-297741 after this he will say.. i only driving my dream car just only... only in my DREAM!! hahaha... so, what is superb about perodua-finishes-2009-on-top-of-the-sales-chart? on 2009 proton didn't sell any car eh?? hahaha... after this he will say.. i only driving my dream car just only… only in my DREAM!! hahaha… so, what is superb about perodua-finishes-2009-on-top-of-the-sales-chart? on 2009 proton didn't sell any car eh?? hahaha…

]]> By: Eyesore http://paultan.org/2010/02/08/singapore-international-arbitration-centre-proton-termination-of-goldstar-jv-contract-is-valid/#comment-297736 Eyesore Tue, 09 Feb 2010 20:18:15 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=22085#comment-297736 nah... he's just a perodua staff who claimed he can enter P1 MD office at will n look at documents.... sore loser and a bad lier IMHO... nah… he's just a perodua staff who claimed he can enter P1 MD office at will n look at documents….

sore loser and a bad lier IMHO…

]]> By: Neutral http://paultan.org/2010/02/08/singapore-international-arbitration-centre-proton-termination-of-goldstar-jv-contract-is-valid/#comment-297734 Neutral Tue, 09 Feb 2010 20:06:29 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=22085#comment-297734 sayang usaha dah ada,tapi hasil xberjaya.takpe,usaha lagi. P2 xdapat chance nak jual to international,setakat tu je la maximum volume pun. kami doakan Proton akan berjaya next time. sayang usaha dah ada,tapi hasil xberjaya.takpe,usaha lagi. P2 xdapat chance nak jual to international,setakat tu je la maximum volume pun.

kami doakan Proton akan berjaya next time.

]]> By: staff http://paultan.org/2010/02/08/singapore-international-arbitration-centre-proton-termination-of-goldstar-jv-contract-is-valid/#comment-297711 staff Tue, 09 Feb 2010 18:58:52 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=22085#comment-297711 haha... why so emotional this Hameed guy? You got some internal info, then go to Police station la.... Why mengadu domba? So fedup of dreaming a dream car eh? haha… why so emotional this Hameed guy?

You got some internal info, then go to Police station la….

Why mengadu domba? So fedup of dreaming a dream car eh?

]]> By: Kita Kawan Tak Mau L http://paultan.org/2010/02/08/singapore-international-arbitration-centre-proton-termination-of-goldstar-jv-contract-is-valid/#comment-297710 Kita Kawan Tak Mau L Tue, 09 Feb 2010 18:58:30 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=22085#comment-297710 Suda la gaduh2 apa hal... Its still our national car makers if youre not satisfied how they run their business, why dont u offer yourself as a replacement for the current management, see what you can do to turn it around... then again, its saddening to see yet another party(s) able to steal under P1 nose... Suda la gaduh2 apa hal… Its still our national car makers if youre not satisfied how they run their business, why dont u offer yourself as a replacement for the current management, see what you can do to turn it around… then again, its saddening to see yet another party(s) able to steal under P1 nose…

]]> By: Nerddy http://paultan.org/2010/02/08/singapore-international-arbitration-centre-proton-termination-of-goldstar-jv-contract-is-valid/#comment-297699 Nerddy Tue, 09 Feb 2010 17:59:07 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=22085#comment-297699 ooo... sorry Mr. Hameed Koyakuti. I should read further down... ooo… sorry Mr. Hameed Koyakuti. I should read further down…

]]> By: Eyesore http://paultan.org/2010/02/08/singapore-international-arbitration-centre-proton-termination-of-goldstar-jv-contract-is-valid/#comment-297698 Eyesore Tue, 09 Feb 2010 17:57:58 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=22085#comment-297698 Hmmm... 1. I did not say that P1 will overtake P2 sales volume, NEVER.. but what i said the sales are better than the previous management..... r u trying to spin my statement??? 2. 30000 units... does he said it will be shipped all those units in one year? Probably 30000 units was total figure for the duration of the contract... 7 years contact maybe... u oso dunno right? And did P1 says they goona sell 30000 units in 2007? NO! so where is the lie????? Hmmm…

1. I did not say that P1 will overtake P2 sales volume, NEVER.. but what i said the sales are better than the previous management….. r u trying to spin my statement???

2. 30000 units… does he said it will be shipped all those units in one year? Probably 30000 units was total figure for the duration of the contract… 7 years contact maybe… u oso dunno right? And did P1 says they goona sell 30000 units in 2007? NO! so where is the lie?????

]]> By: Nerddy http://paultan.org/2010/02/08/singapore-international-arbitration-centre-proton-termination-of-goldstar-jv-contract-is-valid/#comment-297697 Nerddy Tue, 09 Feb 2010 17:57:27 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=22085#comment-297697 And your source Mr Hameed Koyakuti? Not from other blog I hope... And your source Mr Hameed Koyakuti? Not from other blog I hope…

]]> By: Hameed Koyakuti http://paultan.org/2010/02/08/singapore-international-arbitration-centre-proton-termination-of-goldstar-jv-contract-is-valid/#comment-297683 Hameed Koyakuti Tue, 09 Feb 2010 17:22:18 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=22085#comment-297683 Its funny despite all the facts i'd exposed, P1 supporters still defend P1 blindly..... U all semua tara baca kaaaaa???? Its funny despite all the facts i'd exposed, P1 supporters still defend P1 blindly…..

U all semua tara baca kaaaaa????

]]> By: Hameed Koyakuti http://paultan.org/2010/02/08/singapore-international-arbitration-centre-proton-termination-of-goldstar-jv-contract-is-valid/#comment-297680 Hameed Koyakuti Tue, 09 Feb 2010 17:19:28 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=22085#comment-297680 Mysticmind, read facts above and dissappear. No facts no talk.... Mysticmind, read facts above and dissappear. No facts no talk….

]]> By: Mysticmind http://paultan.org/2010/02/08/singapore-international-arbitration-centre-proton-termination-of-goldstar-jv-contract-is-valid/#comment-297675 Mysticmind Tue, 09 Feb 2010 17:04:55 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=22085#comment-297675 Proton should sue Hameed Koyakuti. Proton should sue Hameed Koyakuti.

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