Comments on: Lotus boss Tony Fernandes “over the moon” with Bahrain GP showing http://paultan.org/2010/03/15/lotus-boss-tony-fernandes-over-the-moon-with-bahrain-gp-showing/ Paul Tan on the Automotive Industry Wed, 15 Feb 2012 02:34:10 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: ciput http://paultan.org/2010/03/15/lotus-boss-tony-fernandes-over-the-moon-with-bahrain-gp-showing/#comment-312466 ciput Wed, 24 Mar 2010 23:58:52 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=23860#comment-312466 Lotus :Racing or makan angin(not Finish 2+3lap)? Virgin : Racing!!! Lotus :Racing or makan angin(not Finish 2+3lap)? Virgin : Racing!!!

]]> By: Steven http://paultan.org/2010/03/15/lotus-boss-tony-fernandes-over-the-moon-with-bahrain-gp-showing/#comment-310623 Steven Thu, 18 Mar 2010 16:55:31 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=23860#comment-310623 Great start but dont rest on your laurels. I understand that the 2010 budget is still not secured fully. Cash flow is key but am sure Tony & gang will find their way. So much to do besides putting two cars on the grid. That's the easy part, finding the means to do it is the difficult part of any racing team. Great start but dont rest on your laurels. I understand that the 2010 budget is still not secured fully. Cash flow is key but am sure Tony & gang will find their way. So much to do besides putting two cars on the grid. That's the easy part, finding the means to do it is the difficult part of any racing team.

]]> By: ros http://paultan.org/2010/03/15/lotus-boss-tony-fernandes-over-the-moon-with-bahrain-gp-showing/#comment-310384 ros Thu, 18 Mar 2010 08:38:42 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=23860#comment-310384 loser.. :-P loser.. :-P

]]> By: GoLotus http://paultan.org/2010/03/15/lotus-boss-tony-fernandes-over-the-moon-with-bahrain-gp-showing/#comment-310184 GoLotus Wed, 17 Mar 2010 15:58:21 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=23860#comment-310184 Congratulations Lotus... a bit more tweak can go top ten.. hope can do that on Sepang GP time... !! p/s Nevermind.. just use the so called "duit rakyat". Not worth it giving back to Malaysian. Malaysian only know how to complain and talk only. Lazy to work. Everything want subsidize... No enough money want to blame others, got enough money they stay in Australia and complains about Malaysia(after their education being subsidize by "duit rakyat"). So, please... do spent billions of ringgit to do this.. please... ignore the morons and spent the so called "duit rakyat".. Congratulations Lotus… a bit more tweak can go top ten.. hope can do that on Sepang GP time… !!

p/s Nevermind.. just use the so called "duit rakyat". Not worth it giving back to Malaysian. Malaysian only know how to complain and talk only. Lazy to work. Everything want subsidize… No enough money want to blame others, got enough money they stay in Australia and complains about Malaysia(after their education being subsidize by "duit rakyat"). So, please… do spent billions of ringgit to do this.. please… ignore the morons and spent the so called "duit rakyat"..

]]> By: TM http://paultan.org/2010/03/15/lotus-boss-tony-fernandes-over-the-moon-with-bahrain-gp-showing/#comment-310160 TM Wed, 17 Mar 2010 15:14:28 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=23860#comment-310160 Congrats on the Team. I don't know why after all this, the detractors will still find excuses to bash the Team. Jealousy? Armchair F1 drivers? Or just plain stupid narrowmindedness typical of those who want to comment for the sake of commenting. Be happy for once considering it's a great first step. Cheers. Congrats on the Team. I don't know why after all this, the detractors will still find excuses to bash the Team. Jealousy? Armchair F1 drivers? Or just plain stupid narrowmindedness typical of those who want to comment for the sake of commenting.

Be happy for once considering it's a great first step.

Cheers.

]]> By: Ferruccio http://paultan.org/2010/03/15/lotus-boss-tony-fernandes-over-the-moon-with-bahrain-gp-showing/#comment-310159 Ferruccio Wed, 17 Mar 2010 15:08:08 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=23860#comment-310159 yippi33 said, March 17, 2010 @ 1:20 pm Yes. based on bahrain results, barrichello is in 10th. But based on the statistic and previous teams usage of the engine, cosworth powered are frequently filling up the back pack..we are talking about challenging the big boys now..not becoming winners among the backpackers….cosworth is a good engine and theyll win a couple of points this season no doubt.. but theyll need a better engine to climb up the chart..hope im wrong though.. _______________________________________________________________________ It would be good if you can justify statements like .."based on the statistic and previous teams usage of the engine, cosworth powered are frequently filling up the back pack.." Firstly, we are currently in the 2010 season moving forward and how Cosworth did or did not perform prior to this really is irrelevant to the current season. It's history. Secondly, the following teams were powered by Cosworth from 2000-06: Jaguar, Minardi, Arrows, Jordan, RedBull, Williams, Toro Rosso. Out of that list, how many teams would you say frequently "filled up the back pack"? I only see 1 team but am willing to be proven wrong. As for "but theyll need a better engine to climb up the chart..", if 'they' refers to Lotus, yes, I agree. If Lotus want to be running with say the top 4 cars, Lotus will need to be willing to PAY similar amounts for engines as the the top 4 cars, whatever engine that may be. If 'they' refers to Cosworth, I disagree. As the saying goes, "You can't have your cake and eat it too" Not only has Cosworth provided THE CHEAPEST engine on the grid, and not by a small margin mind you, they've also proven that their engine could break into the Top 10. If anything, the cars that finished behind Williams should wonder whether they should run Cosworth too! yippi33 said,

March 17, 2010 @ 1:20 pm

Yes. based on bahrain results, barrichello is in 10th. But based on the statistic and previous teams usage of the engine, cosworth powered are frequently filling up the back pack..we are talking about challenging the big boys now..not becoming winners among the backpackers….cosworth is a good engine and theyll win a couple of points this season no doubt.. but theyll need a better engine to climb up the chart..hope im wrong though..

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It would be good if you can justify statements like .."based on the statistic and previous teams usage of the engine, cosworth powered are frequently filling up the back pack.."

Firstly, we are currently in the 2010 season moving forward and how Cosworth did or did not perform prior to this really is irrelevant to the current season. It's history.

Secondly, the following teams were powered by Cosworth from 2000-06: Jaguar, Minardi, Arrows, Jordan, RedBull, Williams, Toro Rosso.

Out of that list, how many teams would you say frequently "filled up the back pack"? I only see 1 team but am willing to be proven wrong.

As for "but theyll need a better engine to climb up the chart..", if 'they' refers to Lotus, yes, I agree. If Lotus want to be running with say the top 4 cars, Lotus will need to be willing to PAY similar amounts for engines as the the top 4 cars, whatever engine that may be.

If 'they' refers to Cosworth, I disagree. As the saying goes, "You can't have your cake and eat it too"

Not only has Cosworth provided THE CHEAPEST engine on the grid, and not by a small margin mind you, they've also proven that their engine could break into the Top 10.

If anything, the cars that finished behind Williams should wonder whether they should run Cosworth too!

]]> By: yippi33 http://paultan.org/2010/03/15/lotus-boss-tony-fernandes-over-the-moon-with-bahrain-gp-showing/#comment-310105 yippi33 Wed, 17 Mar 2010 13:20:58 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=23860#comment-310105 Ferruccio said, March 16, 2010 @ 6:56 pm To imply that the Cosworth engine is weak is unrealistic. Just look at Williams-Cosworth. Same CA2010 unit. Barrichello qualified in 11th and finished the race in 10th. _____________________________________ Yes. based on bahrain results, barrichello is in 10th. But based on the statistic and previous teams usage of the engine, cosworth powered are frequently filling up the back pack..we are talking about challenging the big boys now..not becoming winners among the backpackers....cosworth is a good engine and theyll win a couple of points this season no doubt.. but theyll need a better engine to climb up the chart..hope im wrong though.. Ferruccio said,

March 16, 2010 @ 6:56 pm

To imply that the Cosworth engine is weak is unrealistic. Just look at Williams-Cosworth. Same CA2010 unit. Barrichello qualified in 11th and finished the race in 10th.

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Yes. based on bahrain results, barrichello is in 10th. But based on the statistic and previous teams usage of the engine, cosworth powered are frequently filling up the back pack..we are talking about challenging the big boys now..not becoming winners among the backpackers….cosworth is a good engine and theyll win a couple of points this season no doubt.. but theyll need a better engine to climb up the chart..hope im wrong though..

]]> By: wallstreet http://paultan.org/2010/03/15/lotus-boss-tony-fernandes-over-the-moon-with-bahrain-gp-showing/#comment-310060 wallstreet Wed, 17 Mar 2010 11:44:55 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=23860#comment-310060 leonardo said, March 16, 2010 @ 2:19 pm Wallstreet – you are wrong. The FACT is Virgin F1, HRT, Red Bull, Williams and a few others DID NOT FINISH THE RACE. may of them with mechanical failures. The common saying in F1 is ‘to finish 1st you have to 1st finish’ is very true. Lotus has proven that is has the reliability, now it can concentrate for the speed. ---------------------------------------------------- Can't you read my post more clearly? Most mechanical failures are due to the car being pushed beyond their limit and its up to the engineer to fix and improve it. You don't have to tell me ‘to finish 1st, 1st you have to finish’, it is also to finish last, first you have to finish.. Proven reliable and now can concentrate for the speed????? This is utterly rubbish and only ppl like you will buy it!! This car is only reliable because it does not have the speed!! Once you start pushing it to the limit, reliability issues will come!! Understand?? Only great engineer will make the car pushing to the limit, with great design and still reliable. What Mike Gascoyne did to the car is only nursing the car to the finish line and obviously he is NOT a great designer, HE IS A REJECTED 'stuff'. leonardo said,

March 16, 2010 @ 2:19 pm

Wallstreet – you are wrong. The FACT is Virgin F1, HRT, Red Bull, Williams and a few others DID NOT FINISH THE RACE. may of them with mechanical failures. The common saying in F1 is ‘to finish 1st you have to 1st finish’ is very true. Lotus has proven that is has the reliability, now it can concentrate for the speed.

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Can't you read my post more clearly? Most mechanical failures are due to the car being pushed beyond their limit and its up to the engineer to fix and improve it. You don't have to tell me ‘to finish 1st, 1st you have to finish’, it is also to finish last, first you have to finish..

Proven reliable and now can concentrate for the speed????? This is utterly rubbish and only ppl like you will buy it!! This car is only reliable because it does not have the speed!! Once you start pushing it to the limit, reliability issues will come!! Understand?? Only great engineer will make the car pushing to the limit, with great design and still reliable. What Mike Gascoyne did to the car is only nursing the car to the finish line and obviously he is NOT a great designer, HE IS A REJECTED 'stuff'.

]]> By: Hameed Koyakuti http://paultan.org/2010/03/15/lotus-boss-tony-fernandes-over-the-moon-with-bahrain-gp-showing/#comment-310010 Hameed Koyakuti Wed, 17 Mar 2010 10:05:50 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=23860#comment-310010 Malaysians and British… working together…. great! WRONG... British working for Malaysian, a new era of colonialisation. Malaysians and British… working together…. great!

WRONG…

British working for Malaysian, a new era of colonialisation.

]]> By: mx_lee http://paultan.org/2010/03/15/lotus-boss-tony-fernandes-over-the-moon-with-bahrain-gp-showing/#comment-309981 mx_lee Wed, 17 Mar 2010 00:44:33 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=23860#comment-309981 Finish below ? A success ? I think these guys don't know what is motor racing.............tune the car down just to finish............everyone knows that. But where is the sheer pace to challenge the leaders.......? You got none of it. Continue to finish like this and you end up last in the season ? LOL Then you might as well pack your bags. And head for Proton cup instead ! LOL Finish below ? A success ?

I think these guys don't know what is motor racing………….tune the car down just to finish…………everyone knows that.

But where is the sheer pace to challenge the leaders…….? You got none of it.

Continue to finish like this and you end up last in the season ? LOL

Then you might as well pack your bags. And head for Proton cup instead !

LOL

]]> By: neutral_minds http://paultan.org/2010/03/15/lotus-boss-tony-fernandes-over-the-moon-with-bahrain-gp-showing/#comment-309965 neutral_minds Tue, 16 Mar 2010 22:56:10 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=23860#comment-309965 what else can say for COSWORTH powered lotus f1.....good job i guess!!!! what else can say for COSWORTH powered lotus f1…..good job i guess!!!!

]]> By: man http://paultan.org/2010/03/15/lotus-boss-tony-fernandes-over-the-moon-with-bahrain-gp-showing/#comment-309950 man Tue, 16 Mar 2010 21:19:54 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=23860#comment-309950 Malaysians and British... working together.... great! Malaysians and British… working together…. great!

]]> By: malaysian http://paultan.org/2010/03/15/lotus-boss-tony-fernandes-over-the-moon-with-bahrain-gp-showing/#comment-309928 malaysian Tue, 16 Mar 2010 19:55:37 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=23860#comment-309928 whats with the wang rakyat talk...its a venture between tune group naza,proton and a british racing outfit which is litespeed.the malaysian goverment does have a hand in it which is correct me if i am wrong sumthin like 10%,and its just to promote malaysia in an international stage for tourism i guess.cant believe how close minded and shallow some malaysians can be and as always only have the habit of complaining about everything...and yes lets keep politics out of the topic and this is a thread about racing...good luck to lotus and its a great start,developing a race worthy car within 6 months is not a easy task and its good enough that they had finished the race as a starter whats with the wang rakyat talk…its a venture between tune group naza,proton and a british racing outfit which is litespeed.the malaysian goverment does have a hand in it which is correct me if i am wrong sumthin like 10%,and its just to promote malaysia in an international stage for tourism i guess.cant believe how close minded and shallow some malaysians can be and as always only have the habit of complaining about everything…and yes lets keep politics out of the topic and this is a thread about racing…good luck to lotus and its a great start,developing a race worthy car within 6 months is not a easy task and its good enough that they had finished the race as a starter

]]> By: Ferruccio http://paultan.org/2010/03/15/lotus-boss-tony-fernandes-over-the-moon-with-bahrain-gp-showing/#comment-309911 Ferruccio Tue, 16 Mar 2010 18:56:02 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=23860#comment-309911 yippi33 said, March 16, 2010 @ 2:56 pm err..hopefully they can upgrade the engine next season..i still think the Achilles heel of this lotus machine is the engine.. ___________________________________________________________________________ I disagree. Heikki himself expressed in the Jerez test, that he thought the Cosworth engine was the strongest part of the package. It was the part of the car that gave the least trouble. To imply that the Cosworth engine is weak is unrealistic. Just look at Williams-Cosworth. Same CA2010 unit. Barrichello qualified in 11th and finished the race in 10th. Williams also revealed in post race that they were not at 100% pace because they had other technical gremlins throughout the weekend and they focused on ensuring they finished. Williams said after the race that there is definitely more to come from the engine, and their car as well. Even in the test at Jerez, Cosworth said they're taking it easy with the engine because it's new and they need to make sure it meets reliability targets. They're unlike to take risks until they can confirm data for reliability, a function of track mileage. They just have to do the required number of races before they can confirm their simulations. yippi33 said,

March 16, 2010 @ 2:56 pm

err..hopefully they can upgrade the engine next season..i still think the Achilles heel of this lotus machine is the engine..

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I disagree. Heikki himself expressed in the Jerez test, that he thought the Cosworth engine was the strongest part of the package. It was the part of the car that gave the least trouble.

To imply that the Cosworth engine is weak is unrealistic. Just look at Williams-Cosworth. Same CA2010 unit. Barrichello qualified in 11th and finished the race in 10th.

Williams also revealed in post race that they were not at 100% pace because they had other technical gremlins throughout the weekend and they focused on ensuring they finished. Williams said after the race that there is definitely more to come from the engine, and their car as well.

Even in the test at Jerez, Cosworth said they're taking it easy with the engine because it's new and they need to make sure it meets reliability targets. They're unlike to take risks until they can confirm data for reliability, a function of track mileage. They just have to do the required number of races before they can confirm their simulations.

]]> By: Ferruccio http://paultan.org/2010/03/15/lotus-boss-tony-fernandes-over-the-moon-with-bahrain-gp-showing/#comment-309905 Ferruccio Tue, 16 Mar 2010 18:41:13 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=23860#comment-309905 Amran, Gascoyne probably alluding to full scale wind tunnel testing. The design did see windtunnel testing at Fondtech's Aerolab albeit in scale model i think 50% scale. The photos were all over the net including on the team's own website. So was CFD and FEA modelling, all visible, all outsourced in Europe. To imply absolutely no windtunnel and/or CFD analysis for a design before committing to build a chassis is unthinkable. Amran,

Gascoyne probably alluding to full scale wind tunnel testing.

The design did see windtunnel testing at Fondtech's Aerolab albeit in scale model i think 50% scale. The photos were all over the net including on the team's own website. So was CFD and FEA modelling, all visible, all outsourced in Europe.

To imply absolutely no windtunnel and/or CFD analysis for a design before committing to build a chassis is unthinkable.

]]> By: Amran http://paultan.org/2010/03/15/lotus-boss-tony-fernandes-over-the-moon-with-bahrain-gp-showing/#comment-309868 Amran Tue, 16 Mar 2010 17:20:36 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=23860#comment-309868 no wind tunnel yet guys read this <a href="http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/81931" rel="nofollow">http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/81931</a> ""Q. Your aim from the start was to produce a simple car for the start of the season. With the updates coming, do you think there will be dramatic improvements in time? MG: Yes. Normally you are chipping away and finding tenths, but now we are looking at updates that will bring us a second. You have to bear in mind that when we were finalising the design of this car, doing the crash structure and radiator inlets, it was still a month away from going in a wind tunnel. The basic radiator configuration had to be designed with no cooling figures, and no data"" no wind tunnel yet guys

read this
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/81931

""Q. Your aim from the start was to produce a simple car for the start of the season. With the updates coming, do you think there will be dramatic improvements in time?

MG: Yes. Normally you are chipping away and finding tenths, but now we are looking at updates that will bring us a second. You have to bear in mind that when we were finalising the design of this car, doing the crash structure and radiator inlets, it was still a month away from going in a wind tunnel. The basic radiator configuration had to be designed with no cooling figures, and no data""

]]> By: fuyiopo http://paultan.org/2010/03/15/lotus-boss-tony-fernandes-over-the-moon-with-bahrain-gp-showing/#comment-309830 fuyiopo Tue, 16 Mar 2010 15:38:10 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=23860#comment-309830 Keep up the good work lotus......Dont forget, all of us here are sponsors XD Keep up the good work lotus……Dont forget, all of us here are sponsors XD

]]> By: yippi33 http://paultan.org/2010/03/15/lotus-boss-tony-fernandes-over-the-moon-with-bahrain-gp-showing/#comment-309820 yippi33 Tue, 16 Mar 2010 14:56:28 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=23860#comment-309820 err..hopefully they can upgrade the engine next season..i still think the Achilles heel of this lotus machine is the engine..hope they can emulate Sauber by using Ferrari's old engines in theirs for example and they gave a good fight..lotus can improve the aerodynamics and all..but if you're using a kancil 660 in a lambo..u cant expect much rite? all the best green team! err..hopefully they can upgrade the engine next season..i still think the Achilles heel of this lotus machine is the engine..hope they can emulate Sauber by using Ferrari's old engines in theirs for example and they gave a good fight..lotus can improve the aerodynamics and all..but if you're using a kancil 660 in a lambo..u cant expect much rite?

all the best green team!

]]> By: leonardo http://paultan.org/2010/03/15/lotus-boss-tony-fernandes-over-the-moon-with-bahrain-gp-showing/#comment-309813 leonardo Tue, 16 Mar 2010 14:19:40 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=23860#comment-309813 Wallstreet - you are wrong. The FACT is Virgin F1, HRT, Red Bull, Williams and a few others DID NOT FINISH THE RACE. may of them with mechanical failures. The common saying in F1 is 'to finish 1st you have to 1st finish' is very true. Lotus has proven that is has the reliability, now it can concentrate for the speed. This would probably come somewhere in the European leg. Now it waits to be seen is by how much, as the other teams will also be faster. Yes, you can finish using the race by using the Proton Saga or Kancil, by which time everyone would heve gone home! (Silly comments). Wallstreet – you are wrong. The FACT is Virgin F1, HRT, Red Bull, Williams and a few others DID NOT FINISH THE RACE. may of them with mechanical failures. The common saying in F1 is 'to finish 1st you have to 1st finish' is very true. Lotus has proven that is has the reliability, now it can concentrate for the speed. This would probably come somewhere in the European leg. Now it waits to be seen is by how much, as the other teams will also be faster.

Yes, you can finish using the race by using the Proton Saga or Kancil, by which time everyone would heve gone home! (Silly comments).

]]> By: staff http://paultan.org/2010/03/15/lotus-boss-tony-fernandes-over-the-moon-with-bahrain-gp-showing/#comment-309810 staff Tue, 16 Mar 2010 14:15:28 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=23860#comment-309810 sayapdewa said, March 16, 2010 @ 1:24 pm ********************** who is this sayapdewa that questioning? do Tony know you? The question goes back to you, brother... sayapdewa said,

March 16, 2010 @ 1:24 pm

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who is this sayapdewa that questioning? do Tony know you?

The question goes back to you, brother…

]]> By: amwatchin http://paultan.org/2010/03/15/lotus-boss-tony-fernandes-over-the-moon-with-bahrain-gp-showing/#comment-309803 amwatchin Tue, 16 Mar 2010 13:58:48 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=23860#comment-309803 apalaa.. sikit2 wang rakyat...takde sporting spirit langsung... the team are partly being sponsored by MNCs. U can see all those stickers around the f1 cars. All these sponsors shall be proud and happy with Lotus f1 as the 2 cars managed advertise their companies until the finish line. apalaa.. sikit2 wang rakyat…takde sporting spirit langsung… the team are partly being sponsored by MNCs. U can see all those stickers around the f1 cars. All these sponsors shall be proud and happy with Lotus f1 as the 2 cars managed advertise their companies until the finish line.

]]> By: bolo http://paultan.org/2010/03/15/lotus-boss-tony-fernandes-over-the-moon-with-bahrain-gp-showing/#comment-309801 bolo Tue, 16 Mar 2010 13:53:41 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=23860#comment-309801 as much as I don't like the idea of using public money to sponser a F1 team, I must say that a new team with no works backing having BOTH cars finishing their first race right "out of the box" is an achievement. In F1 history many new teams did not even made it to starting grid on race day, and then there are some that didn't even made it to qualifying day. however the team must adopt a winner's attitude and not contend to be also run. Ron Dennis once said that coming second made you the first among the losers, now that is the kind of attitude competitors need to have. as much as I don't like the idea of using public money to sponser a F1 team, I must say that a new team with no works backing having BOTH cars finishing their first race right "out of the box" is an achievement. In F1 history many new teams did not even made it to starting grid on race day, and then there are some that didn't even made it to qualifying day. however the team must adopt a winner's attitude and not contend to be also run. Ron Dennis once said that coming second made you the first among the losers, now that is the kind of attitude competitors need to have.

]]> By: sayapdewa http://paultan.org/2010/03/15/lotus-boss-tony-fernandes-over-the-moon-with-bahrain-gp-showing/#comment-309790 sayapdewa Tue, 16 Mar 2010 13:24:55 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=23860#comment-309790 haiyah....wasting money lah...better invest on proton R&D to produce more good looking and high quality cars... even big name toyota fall back, now proton buat2 kaya nk build team for F1... stakat nk dapat nama jer, not worth it lah... Tony? whois he? why him? haiyah….wasting money lah…better invest on proton R&D to produce more good looking and high quality cars…

even big name toyota fall back, now proton buat2 kaya nk build team for F1…

stakat nk dapat nama jer, not worth it lah…

Tony? whois he? why him?

]]> By: Ferruccio http://paultan.org/2010/03/15/lotus-boss-tony-fernandes-over-the-moon-with-bahrain-gp-showing/#comment-309788 Ferruccio Tue, 16 Mar 2010 13:20:27 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=23860#comment-309788 First my A** said, March 16, 2010 @ 11:28 am Notice how the drivers stand in the back on the team photo… while Tony and the other 2 bosses sit at the front. Other team photos have the drivers in front. Says something about Lotus i think…? _________________________________________________________________________ Interesting observation. I was also looking for the Malaysian faces that made up the technical team but couldn't see anything. All caucasian and the Malaysians we can see are the usual honchos. Maybe the guy squatting on the right is part of technical? First my A** said,

March 16, 2010 @ 11:28 am

Notice how the drivers stand in the back on the team photo… while Tony and the other 2 bosses sit at the front. Other team photos have the drivers in front. Says something about Lotus i think…?

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Interesting observation. I was also looking for the Malaysian faces that made up the technical team but couldn't see anything. All caucasian and the Malaysians we can see are the usual honchos. Maybe the guy squatting on the right is part of technical?

]]> By: Jeffrey Chew http://paultan.org/2010/03/15/lotus-boss-tony-fernandes-over-the-moon-with-bahrain-gp-showing/#comment-309785 Jeffrey Chew Tue, 16 Mar 2010 13:17:09 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=23860#comment-309785 at least the money spent, the car can finish the race... Not like the submarine case...... duh.. at least the money spent, the car can finish the race… Not like the submarine case…… duh..

]]> By: Jeffrey Chew http://paultan.org/2010/03/15/lotus-boss-tony-fernandes-over-the-moon-with-bahrain-gp-showing/#comment-309784 Jeffrey Chew Tue, 16 Mar 2010 13:15:42 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=23860#comment-309784 From the photo what i saw only the Malaysians in the team is the happiest, look at their face. The only the REAL engineers know when they should celebrate. From the photo what i saw only the Malaysians in the team is the happiest, look at their face. The only the REAL engineers know when they should celebrate.

]]> By: pomen_gtr http://paultan.org/2010/03/15/lotus-boss-tony-fernandes-over-the-moon-with-bahrain-gp-showing/#comment-309772 pomen_gtr Tue, 16 Mar 2010 12:45:59 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=23860#comment-309772 Amran said, March 15, 2010 @ 10:15 pm no windtunnel tested part on this car yet. this is just an initial design from mike gascoyne, without CFD or windtunnel. they had to use it because they need to ‘build’ the car immediately to complete it in 5 months. so its an amazing achievement! the wintunnel tested car will debut at spanish GP (race 5). the car(heikki) was about 3 sec off alonso and 2sec off massa in the final laps of the race. BTW, there are 20 Malaysians in the team. 5 Malaysian engineers are among the 60 people there in Bahrain. to the naysayers , study the team a bit to make sure you don’t sound like a complete fool. critics are good. but not when it made out of assumption. ASSUME = making an ASS of U and ME. ______________________________________________________________ no wind tunnel testing???? >> <a href="http://www.ridelust.com/lotus-f1-team-begins-wind-tunnel-testing-on-new-f1-racer/" rel="nofollow">http://www.ridelust.com/lotus-f1-team-begins-wind...</a> are you really keep on tracks on f1 sports??? lotus already do it with initial design with windtunnel test....but the real place to race is in real world...nothing can simulate 100% real life condition....so race data was crucial...with limited budget u can't rent the windtunnel facilities often to play and testing without any data prepared before going in the tunnel... Amran said,

March 15, 2010 @ 10:15 pm

no windtunnel tested part on this car yet. this is just an initial design from mike gascoyne, without CFD or windtunnel. they had to use it because they need to ‘build’ the car immediately to complete it in 5 months. so its an amazing achievement! the wintunnel tested car will debut at spanish GP (race 5).

the car(heikki) was about 3 sec off alonso and 2sec off massa in the final laps of the race.

BTW, there are 20 Malaysians in the team. 5 Malaysian engineers are among the 60 people there in Bahrain.

to the naysayers , study the team a bit to make sure you don’t sound like a complete fool. critics are good. but not when it made out of assumption.

ASSUME = making an ASS of U and ME.

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no wind tunnel testing???? >> http://www.ridelust.com/lotus-f1-team-begins-wind…

are you really keep on tracks on f1 sports???

lotus already do it with initial design with windtunnel test….but the real place to race is in real world…nothing can simulate 100% real life condition….so race data was crucial…with limited budget u can't rent the windtunnel facilities often to play and testing without any data prepared before going in the tunnel…

]]> By: korean http://paultan.org/2010/03/15/lotus-boss-tony-fernandes-over-the-moon-with-bahrain-gp-showing/#comment-309770 korean Tue, 16 Mar 2010 12:43:54 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=23860#comment-309770 wallstreet said, March 16, 2010 @ 11:50 am I really don’t know what is there to celebrate. Create a car to finish at the bottom of the table? I know this is a new team but I rather see a team fighting at the middle pack and DNF than to see a car driving slowly to the finish line..Anyone can make their car finish the race, yes ANY TEAM. They just have to limit the RPM and not pushing it too hard but what is the point? ------------------- You are right. I also can finish the race driving my Proton Saga, without changing tyre somemore. wallstreet said,

March 16, 2010 @ 11:50 am

I really don’t know what is there to celebrate. Create a car to finish at the bottom of the table? I know this is a new team but I rather see a team fighting at the middle pack and DNF than to see a car driving slowly to the finish line..Anyone can make their car finish the race, yes ANY TEAM. They just have to limit the RPM and not pushing it too hard but what is the point?

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You are right. I also can finish the race driving my Proton Saga, without changing tyre somemore.

]]> By: Korean http://paultan.org/2010/03/15/lotus-boss-tony-fernandes-over-the-moon-with-bahrain-gp-showing/#comment-309767 Korean Tue, 16 Mar 2010 12:39:36 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=23860#comment-309767 Wallstreet, you are right. I also can finish the race driving my Proto Saga, no need to change tyre also. Wallstreet, you are right.

I also can finish the race driving my Proto Saga, no need to change tyre also.

]]> By: Korean http://paultan.org/2010/03/15/lotus-boss-tony-fernandes-over-the-moon-with-bahrain-gp-showing/#comment-309761 Korean Tue, 16 Mar 2010 12:35:34 +0000 http://paultan.org/?p=23860#comment-309761 wallstreet said, March 16, 2010 @ 11:50 am I really don’t know what is there to celebrate. Create a car to finish at the bottom of the table? I know this is a new team but I rather see a team fighting at the middle pack and DNF than to see a car driving slowly to the finish line..Anyone can make their car finish the race, yes ANY TEAM. They just have to limit the RPM and not pushing it too hard but what is the point? --------------------------- You are right, if I drive my Proton Saga, I also can finish the race, without changing tyre somemore. wallstreet said,

March 16, 2010 @ 11:50 am

I really don’t know what is there to celebrate. Create a car to finish at the bottom of the table? I know this is a new team but I rather see a team fighting at the middle pack and DNF than to see a car driving slowly to the finish line..Anyone can make their car finish the race, yes ANY TEAM. They just have to limit the RPM and not pushing it too hard but what is the point?

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You are right, if I drive my Proton Saga, I also can finish the race, without changing tyre somemore.

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