UPDATE: Read our first impression Proton Exora Bold Test Drive Review!
The refreshed Proton Exora has been the most talked about car of late, with spyshots, unmasked units being transported and leaked brochures all out in the open. With this as background, Proton has finally released official details of the facelifted MPV, confirming much of the details we already know.
The long-awaited Campro Charge Fuel Efficiency (CFE) engine powers the Exora Bold Premium and the range-topping Exora Prime. This CFE engine puts out 138 hp at 5,000 rpm and 205 Nm of torque from 2,000 to 4,000 rpm from 1.6 litres. Paired to a CVT gearbox, top speed is 185 km/h and 0-100 km/h is done in 13.3 seconds. Claimed fuel consumption is 7.8 litres per 100 km.
As our eagle-eyed Anthony spotted, the CFE isn’t just a Campro with a turbo bolted on. The stroke of the engine has been shortened from 88 mm to 86 mm, resulting in a smaller displacement of 1,561 cc vs the Campro CPS’ 1,597 cc.
“Boosted with the more efficient 1.6L engine, customers will experience powerful performance which is comparable to a 2.0L engine, with much lower fuel consumption. The additional power kicks in to provide more pulling power when accelerating or overtaking. In short, it’s what you can aptly describe as a ‘pay-as-you-go’ engine, which gives you more ‘vroom’ for every litre of petrol used,” says Proton Group MD Datuk Seri Syed Zainal Abidin.
Besides the two CFE+CVT variants, the Exora is also being offered in Bold Executive trim (1.6L Campro CPS with manual or torque converter auto) and non-Bold Standard trim, which is only available as a manual.
Spec-wise, the Bold Premium CVT gets leather seats, a leather-wrapped steering, front fog lamps, rear spoiler, electric foldable wing mirrors, cruise control and reverse camera with rear view mirror LCD. The latter is similar to the system seen in the Kia Forte 6-Speed.
What then is the Exora Prime, you ask. The Prime is the highest spec Exora, sitting above the Bold range. It’s a six-seater with the centre row made up of two Captain Seats. On top of all the Bold Premium features, the Prime gets walnut finishing on the centre panel, gear panel bezel and air con vents (all these are in a sportier “liquid silver” finish in the Bold Premium), metallic beige door switch covers and inner door handles. Also included are head rest monitors and satellite navigation.
On the outside, the Prime is set apart by 16-inch gold-finished alloys and a new Absolute Brown colour. Take note that the featured images here are of the Bold Premium, NOT the Prime.
There will be a “Proton 4 U Day” from December 16-18 (this weekend) at all Proton sales outlets nationwide, with door gifts for those who test drive the Exora Bold. The Exora Prime however, will not be available for test drive, and can only be viewed at selected Crystal Showrooms in Juru (Penang), Plentong (Johor) and Mutiara Damansara (PJ).
Last but not least, prices. Proton has officially released a tentative OTR price list, where the 1.6 Standard MT retails for RM59,998, the Bold 1.6 Executive MT for RM70,998, the Bold 1.6 Executive AT for RM74,998 and the Bold 1.6 Premium CVT for RM79,998. The Exora Prime is priced at RM88,998.
Click here to view the high res official brochure with full specifications.
Proton Exora Bold Premium
Proton Exora Prime
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Exora 1.6 standard MT CPS-RM 59998.
Exora Bold 1.6 executive MT CPS– RM 70998
Exora bold 1.6 executive AT CPS– RM 74998
Exora bold 1.6 premium CFE CVT– RM 79998
Exora Prime 1.6 premium -RM 88998
WOW almost RM90k for the Prime? And it is 1.6? No thanks.
Terpulang nak beli atau tak nak,no one is forcing you…
Polo 1.2 = RM113,888.
And its only 1.2….
Terpulanglah nak beli atau tak nak
no one is forcing you…
Proton Exora 1.6CFE:
1.6L 138hp 205Nm 4592x1809x1691mm RM79k??
Toyota Innova:
2.0L 136ps 182Nm 4580x1770x1755mm RM102k(AT)
Nissan Grand Livina:
1.8L 126ps 174Nm 4420x1690x1590mm RM99k
1.6L 105ps 150Nm 4420x1690x1590mm RM90k
Chery Eastar
2.0L 134hp 185Nm 4662x1820x1590mm Rm86k(Leather)
Exora CFE will provide a better “real world” fuel consumption compared to CPS. The figures at constant speed do not involve any acceleration or braking thus not representing the “real world” situation.
In real world, you need to rev the CPS engine more in daily traffic to move the MPV due to lack of low end torque. The CPS system is designed to give more power at high rev so at low rev, the engine struggles to move the weight of the car. People tend to rev the CPS engine because of this and this hurts the fuel consumption.
CFE on the other hand, addresses this issue with a very high torque right from 2000 RPM. Coupled with the CVT gearbox, the CFE engine will improve the fuel consumption greatly in daily usage where you are constantly accelerating and braking. If you know how to keep a constant low RPM, CVT will help a lot in term of fuel consumption compared to Exora CPS
U potong salesman ke?
Keep copy and paste into each exora related post. :/
Every Exora CFE related post there will be someone who said that the engine will be a fuel guzzler but as an engineer who understand how engines work, I can not bear the misinformation written by someone else.
The best technology so far is Toyota Hybrid Synergy Drive but currently the system is not perfected yet. It is amazing to understand what they can do with the planetary gear system, if they perfected the system, the fuel saving will be higher than what they currently have.
Further more, engine efficiency varies with load & RPM so the way you drive plays a big role in the consumption. If you read on the latest BMW 320d EfficientDynamics, BMW claims that you will get optimum consumption if you drive according to the fitted “Eco” indicator. This includes using proper throttle application, right timing for gear change, less braking & etc.
I agree that the Toyota Hybrid Synergy Drive is the best technology so far. However, it is still far from perfect because that technology is pricey and it is not fail-safe either – when the HSD malfunctions, then surely die lah. The only fail-safe mechanism is when the Prius runs out of petrol, where the EV mode will still have enough juice to go to petrol station.
Mazda new engine Skyactiv and iStop is the non-hybrid technology but big improvement on on fuel comsumption.
Actually I agree what you said, just that I can’t bear tat you c&p each post.
I do not agree on Toyota’s system is the best. It’s all TurboDiesel, full electric for me (or hydrogen fuel based tech, but that seems far away). Electric motors are wonderful things, they offer near to 0 fuel consumption when they are idle and max torque from 0 rpm while the T system still needs to combine power from both engine and battery. Of coz price maybe the issue last time but now it is not anymore. Instead, they chose to milk it until it dries. I hope they move on to the next stage of full electric (even with range extender, which runs at realistic optimal scenario to generate the electricity) sooner or later.
Ignoring Toyota’s discussion, P1 needs to bring the torque in at 1600rpm on the next revision. Hope it doesnt end up like the 308 Turbo Pug. (Which coincidentally, the boost starts at 2000rpm)
C&P is alright, but not the until the stage that does not pin points to the questions or critics that you want to reply to. It annoys ppl, trust me, i m an engineer too. :)
There is a reason why I said that HSD is the best system. The system is truly a “hybrid” system. If the system is perfected, it can change at will from a full internal combustion propulsion to a full electric propulsion just like a range extender.
They can further improve the engine with efficient diesel technology or SkyActiv like technology and they can also upgrade the electric system with a better system. At the same time, they can also run the engine only at the optimum working range if they want to with the HSD system.
If every single part of the system is optimized, the cost would be very high, that’s why they did not make everything perfect yet. HSD is a true combination of both internal combustion & electric propulsion.
Further advancement in internal combustion technology is good but it still can’t recover back the energy lost during braking. Advancement in EV system is also good but EV still has the range & charging issues. Since HSD is a combination of both internal combustion & EV system, HSD will benefit from further advancement in both direction.
what is potong? are you stupid it’s proton you dumb! even GT-R fanboy know that! huh!
Potong = P1, all basher or none basher knows that. I am amazed that you didn’t know that. Wow… Are you sure you are old enough to use the net?
i dont know oso i only know ice cream potong
Name… u sudah potong?
When single driver drive Exora, serve them right for high consumption, who ask them to move around with 7 seater car!
good info…
average joes are clueless when talk about HP and Torque… let alone the HP
all they know, turbo is power, instantly will compare to Evos, Subarus and the likes…
many can’t differentiate between HP and Torque… they’ll just read the HP figure and say it is just average…
Hence HP win talks, Torque win races.
ngko bila proton boast pasal hp ko ckp hp wins the talk…
kalu proton boast pasal torque misti ko ckp torque wins the talk
blah la ko!
gi buatt kete sindri!
hahaha……… what about Naza/Kia Citra/Caren and Citra II/Rondo 2.0 RM60K++ to RM90K++? And also some other brands and models fall within this category or price?
It doesn’t matter what engine the engineers have designed, nothing is perfect and so does the engine. Is all about improving such as minimize the loses and maximize the output. There is reason why engines are paired with add on such as turbo, supercharger, manifold enhancement, varies of injection, etc and types of transmission, etc. And the lists goes on and on.
Having Turbo or CVT to the engine has it pros and cons, so does others systems/add on. Nothing is perfect, is more of a trend, market, demand, improvement and etc.
If an engineer is very experience, will said and think differently. Driving behavior is only part of it to help to minimize the fuel consumption. Fuel efficiency is all from the engine itself, and on what “type of vehicles” was applied. Everything has it limits. Turbo maybe a fuel guzzler depends on how it was applied. So it won’t be surprised that a lot of engineers see differently. That’s the reason many types of new engines were produced and usually with improvements.
Most of the mechanical and automotive engineers do understand how an engine works. so why a frust? ahahaha………………….
OMG…MAHALnya…
agreed, its the diesel like quality of huge torque at low rev…albeit a 1.6 diesel diesel will have around 300nm at those rev and slightly lower FC
go to sc often for servicing the cfe , tin milo mpv
ikut specs exora cps fc 7.4 l jee tapi yg ni 7.8 l, jadi angka 7.8 l lebih economik?syed zainal boleh jelaskan?
this is the real figure,the bronchure is wrong!!!
Exora BOLD Premium CVT CFE
Fuel Consumption @ 90km/H : 7.8l/100km
0-100km/h :11.3s!!! not 13.3s
Exora CPS
Feul Consumption @ 90km/H : 7.2l MT,7.4 AT
0-100kmh:14.8 MT,15.5 AT
I SAID AGAIN THE BRONCHURE IS WRONG!!!
oops,correction
it’s “Fuel” not “Feul”
Brochure is wrong?
and you still saying Bold Premium CVT CFE,7.8 l/100km.
betul la apa nono cakap.
EXOR-A fanboy.
To Miskin Malaysian:
Sorry,the fuel consumption is unchange but the accelerate do change btw i’m not EXOR-A fanboy!!!
For your information i own GT-R R35 and saga fl why i want to be EXOR-A fanboy?
if you dont belive me thats not my problem,peace!
To Miskin Malaysian:
Sorry,the fuel consumption is unchange but the accelerate do change btw i’m not EXOR-A fanboy!!!
For your information i own GT-R R35 and saga fl and why i want to be EXOR-A fanboy?
if you dont belive me thats not my problem,peace!
almost 90k for 1.6? it is not 1.6N/A , it its CFE . you get an engine almost matching 2.0N/A engine. you wont complaint for Golf TSI engine priced hugely and engine with 1.4 right?
one more thing VW car are global car,dont compare VW car with this exora.
global car should be cheaper.. cost/volume?
if he can buy a gtr,so 100k VW is cheap for him.
at least no body complain bout the stering wheel rite……….
the pug’s 308 “1.6″ turbo is selling at 115K….n it sits only 5…oh no….
bro… give some constructive comments la….
dude..please higlight this..
“Boosted with the more efficient 1.6L engine, customers will experience powerful performance which is comparable to a 2.0L engine, with much lower fuel consumption. ”
the conslusion is..
1. this 1.6 same like 2.0L engine but u only pay 1.6L roadtax..
2. this 1.6 same like 2.0L engine but you only pay 1.6L fuel consumption.
so..why bother the price.
nice compare…..
Thx god without the fake and cheap wood is much better and nicer :)
Fugly fake wood panel…these could set back potential prime customers. Y don’t they choose “safe colours” like piano black or titanium silver. Fake wood panel is just not everyone’s cup of tea.
Modern engine+gearbox but Outdated interior!
Top of the spec close to RM90,000…P1 & P2 same same..over priced for a national car…..exploiting the ‘umbrella protection’….
better specs will be sold overseas at a lower price i assume…
Expensive for a tax free, subsidised car..minus 20k then consider about market value
WTF dude… All cars in Malaysia are predisposed to tax even Proton and Perodua. Get your facts right before giving comments.
Yes u hve to pay excise duty which is at a discounted rate, then t he gvt
provides grant to proton then non national cars are taxed heavily
So they would b more expensive…might as well consider it worse than tax free
why rubbish like Toyota Vios J can sell for 70k? Basically kerata-kosong.
Because there will be idiots who will fall for “Toyota badge”. Even with so called higher tax rate that car is no where near 70k in value.
Non Malaysian car makers just WANT you to believe that they have super high tax just as an excuse to charge u more for cheap shit.
last time i bought a new proton, the invoice stated how much tax being paid by me… so no tax free for me … where do you bought without tax?? 2nd hand maybe..
When did P1 and P2 got tax free? OMG… they don’t have imported tax only laaa…
Check this website on tax calculation…
http://www.customs.gov.my/documents/Bahagian%20CD/Customs%20Guidelines%20Book-Excise.pdf
Sesuatu yang segar daripada PROTON. Tahniah!!! Proton seharusnya mengeluarkan model baharu yg mampu menarik minta golongan pertengahan dengan harga yg tidak terlalu mahal (Kurang daripada RM70K). Model baharu Persona R bila pulak nak dikeluarkan????
mcm mana proton nk maju bila semua org pakat mintak kereta murah.. bila kereta murah xda kualiti, marahkan proton balik.. sepatutnya korg marahkan vendor2 yg buat part2 yg x berkualiti..
Macamana malaysia nk maju kalau hutang beli kereta sampai 9 tahun atau lebih dan kereta quality akan lingkup sebelum lima tahun? jadi kalau proton nk maju kan lebih baik letak harga 200k, naik kan cukai jenama lain dan buat loan sampai 20tahun? macamana nk maju kalau hidup dalam tempurung?tk berani berlawan dengan harga yang betul?
Kenapa dengan policy yg sama hampir 30tahun proton masih nyawa2 ikan?
Vendor siapa yg pilih?
if vendors supply no good part to p1, who fault is tt?? ever heard of incoming qc inspection?? who the hell appoint these low-class vendors at first place??
in p2 their quality ppl is much stronger than prod ppl.. they willing to stop prod line and reduce output rather than let defected parts install in their cars just to get the required delivery output..
it is so obvious in difference between p1 & p2 quality culture.. :(
Delphi is one of the vendors appointed but they have a problem to meet P1 tight budget. The comparison of price is up to 1000%. Thats 10X of product real cost supplied by vendor with the price you pay.
mahal bukan sebab kualiti tapi sebab cukai yang tak sepatutnya…..
nak murah? sebenarnya kos kereta murah, tapi kos tax yg jadi mahal. kereta import murah tapi jadi mahal pasal tax, tak usah cakap pasal quality. mmg hapeh. ni semua ada udang dalam batu, buat alasan patriotism, sebenarnya nak untung sendiri….
Walao eh…..89K for this piece of 1.6 junk??????
Perodua also produces RM90k car… NaughtyCar.
Exora Prime is still cheaper than Nautica… RM88,998 vs RM89,900, about RM900 cheaper.
and the NaughtyCar has been discontinued just after 1 year from launch here, because Toyota brought the REAL version wearing Toyota badge, Rush :)
u so funny.
nautical is made in japan. a real 4×4.
rush is 7 seater. made in indon. hence the price difference.
i just bought the most expensive proton 2.0P, so dont argue with me. i’m not fanboy or basher.
proton sold rm90k over inspira and exora prime and sellable
but perodua sold nautica RM90k.. nobody wanna buy and discontinue within a year
prrrrtfhhhh
This is just my opinion regard this new model.
I believe the turbo is a bold on turbo(low power turbo < 0.4 bar). Just test drive. Got power.
But the spec didn't write out the compression ration and turbo compression bar (even no bar meter), turbo's timer or computer. I didn't heart any valve sound. So I believe it is a bold on low power turbo.
I believe the extra price is for CVT gear box and bold on turbo.
But I not a car engineer or expert just a lay man opinion. Actually I prefer super charger (if the purpose is for improve oil consumption).
This is a family MPV 7 seater man, why need boost meter and turbo timer? downsizing engines with turbos are to meet better emission and achieve flat torque curve from low rpm. Turbo timers are yesteryears tech. Nowadays radiator pump will continue to circulate coolant after engine is turned off if needed.
For the sake of everyone’s safety, I hope no one goes and chip it up or bolt on a bigger turbo to increase the boost and drive around racing with evos and imprezas. Especially not with 6 other passengers on board.
it’s ‘bolt’ on turbo, not ‘bold’ on turbo…
i love it.good proton.keep moving forward
Boleh stop pasal spec n lain lain tak kejap.. nak tanya tuan tanah…
Exora 1.6 standard MT CPS-RM 59998.
Exora Bold 1.6 executive MT CPS– RM 70998
Exora bold 1.6 executive AT CPS– RM 74998
Exora bold 1.6 premium CFE CVT– RM 79998
Exora Prime 1.6 premium -RM 88998
boleh bagi maklumat lebih berkenaan bayaran bulanan (max) n berapa downpayment…
aku tak tahu pasal kereta, jadi aku tak nak campur kalau pasal enjin dll…
yang aku nampak, dalaman dia tu dah sesuai dengan citarasa aku…
Waiting eagerly for launching and test drive.
awesome shit !
Prime 1.6 Premium : RM88,998
Bold 1.6 Premium CVT : RM79,998
Bold 1.6 Executive MT : RM70,998
1.6 Standard MT : RM59,998
http://www.bernama.com/bernama/v5/newsbusiness.php?id=634552
interesting.. powerful.. congratz Proton!
FIRST!!!1!!1
agreed
u’re the first person that made me hit dislike button
first fool in this topic!!
maybe first time…silly la u…
to date, he got 258 dislike.
this is really FIRST!
Thanks for the good laugh. U made my day…
anyone who buys an MPV in this segment other than Exora is stupid.
Avanza you’re going down! Eastar too! Livina, hmmm. Exora has the most specs & techs than them :)
please lah, if you want to puji Exora, go ahead. but don’t call non-purchasers stupid.
there are other factors (brand loyalty, service centre quality, other incentives, etc) that influence a decision to buy any particular car.
agreed. Like it buy it. hate it ignore it.. there’s thousand reason people buying import car and local car.
emm…yes it’s finally sth worth buying for now for P1, but i’m still doubtful of its quality.
Ko lagi stupid…kalau xder tax protection satu keturunan ko pun x beli proton……baru pakai proton dah bodoh sombong…..
now i know why u buying exora… u cant afford to buy others because u too stupid .. cant get a better job to afford japs n europeans.. there are many other factors determined before buying a car.. not HP and NM…. idiot…
Avanza do not need to replace timing Belt, anfd it is VVTI engine,
Does Exora have to replace Timing Belt every 80,000km ?
I am no engineer but I think ancient lorry never have any belt or chain to replace because they use timing gear. That does not means those lorry are more advanced than Avanza. AFAIK, the decision to use either gear or chain or belt has nothing to do with how modern is the engine but rather more to do with noise and vibration. If you don’t mind noise, use timing gear like those ancient lorry.
for your information Campro CFE have VVT too and the real acceleration 0-100km/h is 11.3s not 13.3s dont confuse.
Saudara EXORA MAJU, apa maksud anda dengan Livina mmm? Adakah anda tidak pasti akan kelebihannya. Sudah tentu sebab Grand Livina lah MPV sekelas Exora yang terbaik. Saya cadangkan anda pergi ke Nissan dan pandu uji sendiri, saya pasti anda akan terpesona dan puas hati dengan persembahannya. Kalau mampu lagi, belilah Grand Livina Impul 1.8. Anda pasti akan lupa kepada Exora. Saya boleh jamin sebab saya sendiri memandu kereta tersebut. Sekian terima kasih, selamat maju jaya kepada semua dan belilah kenderaan anda mengikut keupayaan.
EXORA MAJU
mmg exora baru ni byk improvement…
enjin, CVT, GPS, reverse camera n len2…
tp x perlulah ckp org bli kete len bodoh….
bgus sgt ke exora klu nk banding dgn mpv len??
sbb torque die plg tggi??
jgn tgk peformance enjin je, stability, handling, braking, 2 sume kne tgk…..
aku x ckp mne2 mpv lg bgus or pling bgus….
2 sume terpulang kpd citarasa msing2…..
pape pun good job proton….
keep improving…..
saudara sudah memandu exora bold 1.6 cfe ini?
I agree with those who by WISH, Stream, Lavina whatever is stupid you pay for name and the seller say buyer stupid at the back. If you really have brain think. I sell many car I know everything. Tq
Sad to see people who paid a large sum of money to buy re-cond MPV. If someone who talked about tax protection & etc. bought a re-cond car, I hope they are aware that the actual price of the car is only 1/3 of the listed price, another 1/3 goes into import duty and the last 1/3 goes into the dealer’s pocket.
OMG…mature a bit…dont call ppl stupid. Every ppl have their right to buy their favourite car. Not only ur Exora is the BEST….i would rather to see what Jeremy clarkson comment on this car…hahaha.
Interesting, and powerful. Congratz Proton~ :)
Good price
At last!! turbocharged Exora is here!!! i mean Proton…and at least improve a bit of styling
dunno what to say but this mpv almost tick all the boxes..
huge space, decent trim(could be nicer at the 1st place), lotus handling dna, more than enough power and most importantly the price seems right!
Yet Alza will still outsell this Exora.
would agree..but alza is on different segment than exora..both vehicle have their own specific target
Comparing alza vs exora sales just like avanza vs innova sales.. Pls use ur brain
Alza is a subcompact MPV while Exora is a compact MPV. Two different segment. If you want to compare something to Exora, then you should compare with Toyota Innova, Naza / Kia Rondo or even Honda Stream and Toyota Wish.
but still will break here break there. same as lotus, break here break there. What is not new?
the exora bold premium is worth it. My dad bought the 1st batch exora High Line at RM76k..additional 4k, u get a CFE engine and CVT gearbox and many more accessories…
I really wanna see the Prime “wood” so badly. hope it’s okay unlike the one we saw earlier.
Haa! This one 5008 pun kalah by a long shot…
Exora Bold has 138 hp and 205 Nm. 5008 has an 18 hp with 240 Nm. It might sounds close enough but the 5008 also comes with 6 airbags (which I believe the Exora has lesser), heads-up display, Hill Start Assist, traction control, and the awesome bit, a panaromic roof. On top of that, it has 5-star EURO NCAP rating, advanced on-board computer on its multi-function display, and being European, an excellent continental ride. Really, you are comparing a donkey and a horse here. Too different.
I’m not discrediting Proton here. I must say I’m impressed that Proton finally has a turbocharged engine fitted in their car. I hope Perodua would follow suit, which I think they won’t.
Perodua doesnt need too, it is already selling well. In the low segment, people want a car that doesnt break. period.
do you even notice many perodua car the new one 1-2 year their third brake lamp kaput…
It’s funny… lot of 3-4 years Myvi sudah break sana break sini… longgar sana longgar sini… On a rough road or bumper.. makes lot of rattling noise… And all this while, I thought only Proton built their cars that bad.. Perodua pun sama… haiseh….
There is a reason why Toyota/Daihatsu is not selling the cars under their own brand but under Perodua brand instead and the reason is not to get a lower tax.
Since they already own the P2 facilities, they also can build the cars under they own brand here. Under NAP, eventhough the brand is not P1 or P2, they will still get a lower tax if the production is done locally, however the local production must be greater than just a CKD operation.
Most 3rd row seat of MPV are more for midget or little kids because of lack of legroom. How does the Exora compares with 5008 and the others?
Good spec given by Proton…Still proton needs to improve on the quality especially on the plasticky interior finishings…
cant wait for Exora Curve, Exora Torch, Exora Playcar
Bravo Proton! Bravo!
mengarut la kau…nk jual handphone g tempat lain..
idiot
eh?..go get a life la..
What’s your point dude?
I used to joke Exora’s name with Blackberry models… then I took an arrow in the knee.
STOP WITH THE SKYRIM JOKES!!!!
U MAD BRO? coolface.jpg
They see me kiddin’, they hatin’~
exora or other mpv? thumbs up for exora, down to other
mate, there’s are many mpvs’ around which from rm60k++ to rm100k++. So what is your usage of the mpv? daily use, weekend use, long distance travel, etc? Own a mpv to suit ur lifestyle most. Fuel consumption, repair and regular maintenance, resale value, loan&interest, warranties, etc must be consider.
Most important, own a mpv which give the least problem and least maintenance cost as well as time. Time which you can’t have it back. the best mpv has to be at your convenient.
I own citra 2006 and planning to trade in with Exora CFE. Test drive Exora-CFE, ok. Will this be a good move? I can trade in my Citra for 30k. Just not sure if this is a good move as I have no visibility of maintenance and how true is the FC published for Exore CFE. Just worry that my 2006 Citra will start giving me problem…parts replacement for Citra is expensive. Mounting is wearing off, brake lining also need to go already, just change autolock door for main seat, now another door start making noise…dunno what next.
Any advice?
More Power. More Style. Space is a bonus.
5 star – using good and correct language (all english).
5 star – with turbo power
5 star – interior upgraded and especially exterior really looks BOLD
5 star – space is a bonus as Proton stated.
Myvi lagi best and Myvi lagi power lagi best
no need to say how many stars. but….
1. using mix languages is a thumb down.
2. lagi power lagi best. talk like a racer. bigger engines is always better.
3. exterior looks ALIKE like 1st generation Myvi and just like 1st saga facelifted to
Iswara. the platform and chassis still consider same.
4. space is not a bonus because luggage space even smaller than old myvi.
Sorry, just my personal opinion.
Exora, lets see how you perform side by side with Grand Livina, Innova or even with stream and rush….
Poor guy, can’t differentiate between compact car and MPV. Go back to school please.
he’s commenting on the tagline dude…
cynical : tagline tagline. Go back to school please.
He’s comparing cars based on tagline, and you’re okay with it? You’re just as dumb as he is.
P1 WIMAX basher?
curious to see how it performs against the NGL1.8. Although the NGL has is less powerful but its smaller and lighter.if space is a minor concern, which between these two will be better?
Just test drive few hour a go, sempat cecah 170 kmh in straight route, belum abis tekan lagi, very good performance for 1.6 mpv, thank for my sporting salesman…
So fast speed..!!! But stable or not when cornering..? Hope to try it out also.. Great..
bro you talking about proton on stability on cornering..of course they are one of the best with their lotus dna
My personal opinion (my deciding factor whether to buy or not):
Exterior:
1. Exterior not bad. Quite like it! Except the smiling grille (but that’s just me).
Interior:
1. Look at that dashboard. LOOK AT IT. That looks so pale, so old, so ugly. Looks really boring. It seems like they only care for the essential parts of the car (AC, audio, etc) but not the looks of it. Did i mentioned the word ugly? Oh God that is so 2000. And ugly.
2. Oh God the logo at the steering wheel is just a SCULPTED PLASTIC??? Why can’t they do it like other brands of cars? Put the ‘real’ logo ie the exterior logo, with the same material, with the exact same thing instead! God that is really, really ugly and stupid. That’s one of the things that i will put my eyes on whenever i’m in the car u know! And i want to look at the nice ‘real’ logo of Proton when i’m driving one. Not just sculpted plastic -____-
Well until they fix these 2 interior problems, only then i will consider buying it (i’m not flaming or hating Proton, just hope that they will do better and thinking in common sense). Peace.
Yup…20 over years…haven’t they learn something?
not toyota rush… i mean Wish… hehehe
nice move from proton…
i dont know why Proton always over enhance the photos…
BTW congrats on this one Proton!! nicely done!! Cant wait for the P3-21A to come out… hopefully there will be a Satria Neo fl with CFE and 6 speed CVT…
CFE on neo will be orsm but just leave that cvt thing to proton’s mpv or sedan only, dont want to see it on neo
I’m also hoping of a new NEO with CFE + 6-speed manual transmission!
Proton maybe not producing CFE for neo BUT i heard internal rumors(still in discussing) neo will produce with CPS supercharger in limited unit..damn! i really hope the discussion end with good result..can’t wait for superb power + superb handling.. cheers..
From the pictures alone, you could tell that the fit and finish have improved, surprisingly, the body panel gaps, is thinner, hence making the car looks its price and capable.
I’d see one in showrooms ,not to get one right now, but , to look forward to proton’s future products
what a pleasant surprise! good pricing.. damn.. but i’m not in need of MPV at the moment.. but still waiting for p3-21A..
I hope they will maintain this momentum with good pricing & well eqipped (sufficient) such as this!
With this improvement, why banks still offer higher car loan interest rates for Proton?
Either the banks still not convinced with Proton quality or still think most Proton buyers are categorised high-risk defaulters?
Seriously this stupid discrimination by banks must stop.
So what a rich towkey wife(low-risk borrower la…) wanna buy Proton, then the bank lower the interest rates?
But if honest salaryman never miss loan repayment, shouldn’t he deserve zero interest when buying Toyota?
How about those criminal, gangsters wife, siblings, goons these crooks must be slapped with 50 percent loan rates served them right!
It’s enough with unfair NAP car prices, no need the banks to be prejudice on car brands and certain types of people anymore.
Local car brands should get lower car loan rates(not higher) to offset the crazy taxes duties.
Great stuffs with what Proton done now but the banks, haihhh, seems like all these Proton improvements doesn’t lower down the loan rates.
I agree with this interest rate nonsense.
I bought a foreign-brand car in 2007 and still paying for it (2.48% for 8 years). So far so good, never missed a payment with Public Bank.
So if I want to buy an additional car such as the Exora Bold now (of course once I submit the documents the banks would know I can definitely afford it), don’t you think I deserve a low interest rate as well? Why must I settle for anything over 3%, I know I don’t fall into the high-risk category anyway.
i got my car 80k plus local car, for interest rate less than 2.8%, so quit complaining
I plan to get one of these BOLD… pls, tell me which bank?
why it called bold?.. bold is botak right?..
Bald lah baru botak bukannya bold
botak is bald my firend..not bold
U failed English ka? Bold and bald also cannot tell apart?
bold = brave
keh keh kehh…. Nk terguling-guling aku baca.. Xpe anak2.. Botak is bald not bold.
Good thing no cheap wood interior trim as seen in the previous spy-shot.
0-100 in 13sec? still slow for turbocharged engine..but the pulling power from 2k rpm seems good.
Apara, Exora bukan untuk racing la nak laju macam Lotus evora.
tayah nk sinis sgt la fan boy. generally semua tau 13sec tu slow. x kesah la kereta mane..nk plak turbo.
Hilux pun turbo jugak…
Scania dengan Man pun turbo gak…. 18 speed lagi..
then u wan wat? 3 sec?if u want that figure , this is da wrong place 4 u dude
Most of the time, century sprints quoted by car makers are slightly inaccurate. Usually you can achieve slightly better 0-100km/h timing in real world conditions. 13.3 seconds looks slow on paper, but you must also consider how heavy the vehicle is, especially the range topper with all the gadgets and electronics included.
no prime pictures?
If our car duty tax structure based on engine emission and fuel efficiency test (rather than flat rate engine capacity), Exora would be way cheaper than it is now.
Below 1800cc said if not mistaken MITI charged zero percent import duty, excise duty 30 percent and sales tax 10 percent.
Now if that excise duty based on emission and efficiency tests (maybe conducted by JPJ), Exora easily score lowest duty rate among all other MPVs around.
In U.S. the NHTSA put CAFE sticker to indicate fuel consumption and efficiency rates in each new car and it’s mandatory by law.
Basically not only a legal reference for car buyers but for banks, insurance companies to fix their rates based on these informations just how clean and effcient that car is.
The better, cleaner, efficient the car the more prospect for more new purchase and lower road tax, insurance premiums etc.
Logically, the best car deserve the best price. Exora price should be just fine if using new car duty system. I speculate cheaper RM10K-20K than current price now!
Lepas ni lorong kanan PLUS Exora punya la ^_^
Thinking of getting the PRIME and sell-off my Avanza 1.3(M) 2007. It’s about time..:)
Good work PROTON!!
nice one..leh mintak proton pasang camera reverse tu kat Persona aku tak?
I love proton.good job..this will definitly bring up proton image to mesian people who keep bashing proton..WELL DONE
people will still find reasons to bash Proton……
88988, that’s a very good price…
what’s the interest rate for new exora?.
interior ok but i do not like the mid of the steering wheel…awful jugak…slack skit…kalau tak…nice…..
Exora bold 1.6 premium CFE + CVT 0-100km need 13sec ? i expected around 11sec, a small dispointed. anyway price is acceptable.
Hang nk bawak anak bini hang racing ke bro? apesal mentality org Malaysia semua spec keta mesti jd keta lumba?? kalau MPV nk bawak family..cukup2lah accelation as a family car..nnt muntah ko anak bini hang.. baik letak enjin SCANIA 480 terus!! tkpun enjin GM B747!
no wonder Malaysia got high rates of road accidents.. cehh
So it turns out the previous fuel consumption of 8.3l/100km from the brochure is not true at all. Any more basher wan’t to comment of typo error (again)? Haha…
Well done Proton!!
nice accessory and equip with good package, but why not launch all the new thing in a new model rather than existing line-up?
new model = need more $$$ to develop
existing line-up = need less $$$ to develop, basic dah ade, so save cost
nah! to the person who argued with me saying he saw the prototype zooming very fast and BS me when i said ‘i think’ the 0-100kmh will be no less than 12s that just enough to restore exora to the COMMON MPV performance from LORRY performance and will still be difficult even to defeat savvy, you read carefully, the 0-100kmh is 13.3s!!!!!!
It is just a Family MPV, not a Performance/ Sport car….
3008 and 5008 also a family mpv. but i like i sed before..the good part is the power come as early as 2k rpm.
that’s EXACTLY my point!
Takde sape pulak nak cakap pasal ‘power’ and torque tin kosong Avanza.
0-100 km/h is done in 13.3 seconds? Hmmf…
bro, 13sec for 138hp with 1433kg of kerb weight tu dah ok la….. Klu ikutkan power to weight ratio tgal 96.3hp/tonne je…..
the price is competitive, still in the range of ‘affordable’…nice…
kudos p1
Wah.. Proton really listen to take off the fake wooden trim… Yeah..now more nice.. Good.. Sure better sales.. Love it.
Macam pernah dengar je ….
“Wah , lucky I didn’t book the other car”
Are you still in Proton A&P?
ppl who never drive real Japanese car may easily conned by perodua…prrrtfhhh
In Japan ur ori passo, sette and mira bought by ah soos to carry their dog…prrrtfhh
in malaysia.. ahy beng japs wannabe who cant affod real Japs car will buy perodua and say.. hey i got japs tech ooo
pity poor mal;aysian
out of topic la stupid.dulu suka bash pasal rebadge,inspira rebadge langsung tak muncul komen.ptuih!
That trim for prime larrr…. Mato bukak!
the wood is really ugly man…what the hell… n also what is the problem with proton press pics? y so much contrast?? WEIRD!
Thanks god !!! The hopeless wood trim are gone ……
Blink….. Opps it’s in the Prime…
Worth to test drive.
Going this weekend.
nice, but… don’t they have any interior color other than grey?
Protong? Never ever again. Gave me enough nightmares already.
old pll with his old saga, waja and gen2 story..
prrrtfhhh
my neo never give me single problem. already clock 19330 (2006 model, wpk) this morning .. used mobil1 after first 3free service
sorry miss 1zero, 193300
U r so lucky bro. My 2006 neo already clocking 145k have a list of problems since beginning until now. From faulty absorber, replacement of the entire dashboard meter, faulty power steering system to recently major engine oil leak (hv to do top overhaul). My aircond fan is possessed (i.e turn on by itself, don’t want to shut down despite the dial is on off) and that problem hv been plaguing me since i bought the car until now. Hv already complained many times to SC whilst under warranty until now not fixed. anyway, i have face the fact that the aircond fan can never be fixed and i lived with it………so you are so lucky bro and i got a lemon car :(
Went & check out the car just Now ….. The Real thing ( Interior ) is better looking than the Pic… The Brown Leather on the Seat is nicer / darker , not as in Picture ……
The Car Pick up really impressive for such a Car / Mpv its size …..
Nice job Proton. U have a very good product here, please make sure ur service department improves too.
Especially at COE Shah Alam. Haven’t solve my BLM problem until now…
unfortunately, this is Malaysia. This is not a unique problem for Proton. You go search around in forums and you’ll find that even Kia, ford, peugeot, and even VW have problems.
Some comments on Exora Prime
4pieces of wooden trim doesn’t make Prime like a real PRIME….All black door trim/garnish (yes, with some chromed parts) with all black leather seat will make a real feel of driving a luxury cars/MPVs…
Oh yes, the red parts on leather seat make Exora Prime looks like a racing mpv….
From the outside there is almost no different between CFE n Prime lineup, the only different i could noticed just a chromed ring on the fog lamp….
But average, this new line of Exora is something i can be proud of…. 1st MALAYSIAN CARS WITH FORCED INDUCTION MAAA!!!
No auto climate, No GPS, NO Xenon, No electric seat….
Taiwan made Luxgen MPV 100x better than Exora!
any additional order sir?
when Proton dun have turbo..u wanted turbo….
when Proton dun have rear disc brake, u wanted rear disc brake….
when Proton dun giv LED, u wanted LED
when Proton dun give bigger tyre, u wanted bigger tyre…
when Proton dun have LCD, u wanted LCD
when Proton dun have Reverse Camera, u wanted Reverse Camera…..
now Proton give u things that u wanted before..u want more?
juz make it simple…..if u dun like it dun buy and dun even bother to look at it….simple rite?
juz read the name shld be enuff..LUXgen which means LUXURY rite? Exora is for mid class Malaysia…not a luxury car. if Proton give u all that u wanted but with higher price u will say Proton is too expensive…….end up, u r nt going to buy it…juz wanted to find way to bash Proton……
I don’t trust campro engine. i drive a satria neo 2006 auto and engine sucks big time. always struggle to accelerate. For a 1.6L engine, always struggle to chase and keep up with a 1.5L vios, or even a 1.3L myvi, or even my wife’s 1.0L kelisa also my car struggle to catch up. I have to slam the pedal hard, let the car rev like there’s no tomorrow, then only i can feel the torque kicking in and barely catch up with those cars…….
why take old model sample? So why not you judge toyota based on toyota corona and toyota dx problem instead of dugong?
Do you still pakai pampers like your baby or dah boleh kencing dlm tandas?
atau…. ko tak pernah servis keta sejak beli? laa…. bodoh betul
Don’t blame him… it happens to my Nephew’s NEO too.. To climb to Genting Sepah also need to drop to Third gear. Drink fuel like Mad Car. My BLM is even better. We have made lots of complaint at PROTON Service Centre but all they did is just checking the ERROR CODE only. No re-tuning or adjustment at all.
Sorry to say that I always naik Genting Sempah for balik kampung at Pantai Timur, just using at least 4th gear, don’t have to lower the gear unless there is a stubborn car or a stupid driver’syok sendiri’ on the right lane.
It’s all about driving skill. Don’t just blame the engine.
I owned manual BLM 1.6 and with about 300kg load, my car can still go uphill at 5th gear at 80km\h. I’ve tested his car Neo Manual 1.6 and it’s difficult to catchup with the power and I have to ramp up the engine to get to the power to go through uphill.
I’m comparing the same Campro 1.6 but the only difference is My BLM uses IAFM with 4 direct coil hance Neo using non-IAFM non-CPS with twin sharing plug coil. (This engine is only fitted on NEO 1.6 B-line)
neo_77 and my Nephew are among the unlucky person to get the problematic unit. But the biggest problem is with Proton SC personnel who is not professional enough to help Proton Car Owners to overcome thier problems. This is the nightmare that most owner have when dealing with Proton.
Like what I said before, when you have a problem with you car, it can be fixed either by Proton or Ah beng shop. When it comes to attitude, I’ve come accross the stupidest Proton Chief Mechanic at COE Shah Alam who don’t know how to ease car owner but making them Angrier with lame excuses WITHOUT even look into the real problem.
terbaik bro. Panas telinga member. heee
Relax guys, this is my own experience driving my neo. Service wise memang x pernah miss hantar kat proton, so don’t make silly and blunt judgment. I’ve read a lot about neo and the engine with all the numbers, specs, calculation etc, but it is meaningless to me sebab my neo campro engine memang xde power at low RPM. What’s the point of torque kicking in at high RPM? The car is only good speeding on highways, i’m not a racer nak bawak 150kph and above. What the engine lacks is torque at low RPM to negotiate city driving i.e accelerating from stop at traffic light, entering a roundabout, overtaking, climb up hill etc….. My car xde power unless i slam the pedal and let it roar until 4000k rpm, baru rasa torque kicks in. Xde maknanya if while i am waiting at the roundabout and see an opportunity to enter, then my car terkial-kial nak gerak sebab xde torque. Silap hari bulah kena slam dari belakang. No doubt the car have great cornering but city driving is very dissapointing most of the time. Terkial-kial……Thats what i meant by cannot catchup with the other cars……..Anyway, i’m scrapping the car soon and getting a new car, but not a campro engine car, not a proton.
try using denso iridium spark plug
That is what they call the torque dip, the original Campro has this problem but PROTON already rectified this with the IAFM system.
I’m not sure with that. My uncle drives an Exora with campro cps, he says the car have no power. Small engine on a big body. My uncle said exora should have a 1.8L powerplant instead. I’m quiet surprise because my impression is that cps is better than the ori engine (that’s what i hv been reading on forums, blogs etc…) So whats the point with all this IAFM systems, cps, better spec, so called improvement and so on, when at the end of the day is how you feel when you drive the car.
maybe ur uncle can testdrive this BOLD exora. 1.6L powerplant soft-turbo’ed to give 2.0L-like performance.
remember, it’s ‘like’ , cant expect to have a pickup like 2.0L NA. gonna need for the turbo to spool-up too…
aiyoh…
cps is better than plain campro..engine-wise.
but pls add the chassis weight.
how about 3.0L honda accord engine installed to a 10tonne lorry.
got power or not? ;)
joke only, but u’ll get my idea.
my auntie and long2 lost cousin said their exora can tapau a ferrari on a lorry…my friend of my long2 best friend whose uncle is his friend of a friend said exora is too powerful he prefer 800cc engine…..it’s true u know
They put CPS in place of the original Campro in Neo because the original Campro has the torque dip issue. They also did the same thing with Gen.2. For Persona, they put IAFM instead but still the purpose is to eliminate the torque dip in the original Campro.
Exora on the other hand is a big car but the CPS is the most powerful engine they have at that time so they have no other choice. They know the engine is too small for the MPV so that is why they develop the CFE and put into Exora now.
bro, please calculate powerTOweight ratio… plus need to see the powerband curve of cps engine compare kelisa n other cars.
Check the torque curve of your non cps campro and compare it against this cfe. It is entirely different beast.
i drive a vios and i have a hard time keeping up with a saga on the highway.. just my 2 cents.. :)
try checking if your handbrake still on bro, just my 0.2 kupang.
U are so damn pathetic….I have 2007 neo 1.6 manual without any mods….drove from kuala kedah to Malacca within 4 and half hours….it’s not the car….it’s the driver….campro maybe a bit slow on 1st and 2nd gear but 3rd onwards flies like a wind…..btw my exora full weight also can outrun vios anytime ( on highway that is) ;)
Bro, no doubt neo can be very fast on highways, but i’m not a racer to drive at highspeed on the highways all the time. What is important is to negotiate city driving. U said 1st, 2nd is slow, how do you negotiate city traffic if the car is sluggish?
maybe u go and service ur car but at ah beng’s workshop la….thts y ur car got no power….
1.6 cannot catch with 1.0? thts sound really weird…really weird…maybe got big fat ghost in ur car thts y it cannot catch kelisa….go and find any sharman to heal ur car dude….
good conditon car come as good oil, oil treatment, good gear oil, good p.maintenence
just my 2 cent
gelak terguling2 aku bc komen ko.haha
front and rear disc break seams bigger…what about rear suspension?..is it still utilize torsion beam or multilink?…
Oh nooo….bad news guys… the wooden centre console trim really exist Exora Prime :( ….
Apelaa Proton, the one in Bold oredi nice… aiyooo…
No prob.. Kedai abang sure have solution for it huhu
Prime variant: the 2nd row captain seats may not be comfortable to sit on, something is missing?
0 to 100 kmh in 13 second is good enough for the vehicle carry 7 people on board. Stick to other segment for better acceleration.
did they test it with 7 ppl onboard? ;)
probably 20 sec with 7 ppl onboard:P
this is a MPV…which means to carry a FAMILY….not to rempit…..
if u want good 0 – 100 why dun u buy the new Lambo…..only 2.6sec 0 – 100
I dubbed the new Exora as Guy Fawkes (V for vandetta). The smiling face…. Blacked it, put lowered Tien suspension and slapped with gun metal color rim, 17/18inch with 45series Pirelli. Now who’s your daddy..
nice dude… i like what u thinking…
thinking of replacing my Nissan Latio with this one … :D
obviously ur lying. hard to catch up even with 1.0 kelisa? or ur wife has much more skill to drive than u loser
The truth is, there are few cases of underpowered and Fuel Guzzler Neo 1.6, but nothing much the owner can do. My Nephew’s Neo also have the same problem. Still unsolved by PROTON Edar Service Centre.
Common story.. My nephew la.. My neighbour la.. Prrrfftthhh
This is not a hearsay, I myself tested that Neo and bring it to Proton CC. They didnt solve the problem.
my first batch neo is so good to me. No major problem so far in 6 year. Just battery bulbs and tyres need to be change.
the tricks is proper maintenance on oils change and respect the car.
Bro, when i’m driving by neo and my wife is driving her kelisa in the city, she’s always a few cars in front of me after the traffic light turn from red to green. That means her kelisa accelerate faster than me. in order for me to catch up, i have to press my pedal harder, getting RPM more that 3000K, my engine roars like hell then my car slowly creeping to her. My petrol become lesser very quickly. That’s what i mean by not able to catch up.
Yup.. that is the standard campro…, sucks below 4000rpm. That is why CFE has superb torque from 2000rpm-4000rpm. Proton has listened to customer’s complain.
Prime get that stupid faux wood???? come on!! no imagination…..
waited to buy… but sorry Proton..maybe next time when u fire all your interior designers…
That wooden trim will be matched if exora have a all black interior……Plus make the wooden darker….. Now exora prime got same interior like 1997 Perdana SEi…..
Now I got it…… the dinosaur who designed a 1997 interior has come back and haunt us….. no wonder the Prime look so 90′s…..
Please someone go hunt and bury him. In a few million years we can use him as fuel.
“Take note that the featured images here are of the Bold Premium, NOT the Prime.” – Ayat pun dah kata image di atas bukan Exora Prime bro….. baca betul2…
OMG i cant wait for p3-21A to launch!! :D
Reduced engine stroke from 88mm to 86mm but still maintain with 10:1 compression ratio? what for?
I really wanna know max boost gain by the turbocharger….. Normal turbos engine run with 9.0-9.5:1 to run with 0.8bar of boost…. So what about this CFE?
CFE compression ratio is 9.5:1
Bro, i refer here
paultan.org/2011/12/15/proton-exora-bold-brochure-scans-reveal-all/ex-bold-40001/
So which data sheet gave u CFE comp ratio 9.5:1?
Bro, i got from here
paultan.org/2011/12/15/proton-exora-bold-brochure-scans-reveal-all/ex-bold-40001/
So which data sheet gave u 9.5:1 as CFE comp ratio? tq
bro there was a typing error in the broncher,i think he get that figure at proton edar or wikipedia,at their all figure are true.
The CFE compression ratio is 9.5:1 and the max boost pressure is 0.7 bar. No intercooler for this CFE engine. That’s why the power increase is obviously smaller than those aftermarket turbos which got intercooler and higher boost pressure, and yet the performance is already better than standard 1.8L engines with the tourque higher than 2.0L engines.
this cfe also got intercooler on the lhs fr bumper…
Really? If what you say is true, then it’s a little bit disappointing for me because if CFE has an intercooler then more horsepower should be able to be tapped from CFE. The ah beng-made turbo Exora normally can get somewhere around 150 bhp depends on the setup. Twincharger can be a lot crazier, because the figure around 150 bhp can be easily made by a 1.4L engine (plus turbocharger and supercharger).
Perodua Alza…SAOPEI LA!!!!
VROOOMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM~~~~!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
okay this is the FIRST TIME i’ve seen an mpv w captain/pilot seat on the 2nd row with a levelled floor!!!how weird!!!and the seats looks really thin!!oh my god~
wish 2.0z jdm tu lama dah ader … survey next time, jgn komen kosong jer
the highest spec impress me with all those multimedia(its a must hav these day, help alot during jam) but why just middle got wood trim…how bout the armrest so weird…well overall nice car..
Sebagai seorang penumpang(2nd-row) saya amat teruja untuk duduk diatas kerusi pilot setelah lama duk berkongsi…
engine proton, engine.
a 1.4 turbocharged campro or whatever u wanna call cud be very handy at these times of climate
this over reliant on campro must stop sooner
this cfe is a factory turbocharge job. and we all know outside oso can do tcharge
but of course factory fitted tcharge is bounded with warranties so it must be good.
so proton comes good and pak syed walked his talk about forced inductions, more modern appealing models
i hope u people can be more thankful and appreciate what proton is doing and please no more mindless bashing
kudos pak syed and the team
the only constructive comments wud be the interior and please no more than 2-3 variants of the facelifted exora
the work for next edition exora must start now. satiria neo replacement start now.
that global model, cfe is a must
does anyone knows what is the interest rate for this model? need to calculate monthly installment.. demn tempted to trade in my myvi :)
Question:
Is this CFE engine a CPS+turbo or regular CAMPRO + turbo?
CamPro + Turbo, although the CamPro in CFE is slightly different where the stroke has been reduced by 2mm
correction it Campro IAFM + VVT + Turbo
Avanza and Alza ur days are numbered. Rilli impressed by p1′s improvements over the years!
does anyone knows the interest rate for this model? thanks..
Mahal, fuel consumption figures always never accurate and will surely b higher..should off been direct inj tbo like prince engine..for the price, not worth
it’ll never be accurate if u push this exora like ferrari……
always shld have been this..shld have been that….
this time they have give almost ething that u u bashers asked before but still no satisfied…
then dun buy la….juz ignore it…..
since when buying a car is worth the money? it’ll depreciate.
but better to get a new car then buying recond/2nd hand car which is not wanted in its country of origin…..
Proton wants to be succesfull? must b up to date with the latest,you want to b sucessfull? stop excepting below par tech and make reasons to exept it..must demand for the best in order to b at least at par..guess you never own a tbo car before
not really below par tech la bro. tell me what is really below par tech in this exora? come on. dont just generally make statements la. give sources. come on, bro. bagi cepat
While most manufacturers are going downsize tbo with dire took years to build an old skool low press tbo with no variable valve timing, no ncap rating,only dual airbag,no stability control,dated design..thats enuff saidd
how are they suppose to compete?
With all those goodies you mentioned, are you/ other malaysian willing to fork out another 20k for that? Then, later you say better top up another 20k for xx brand.
DAMM why they release that wood trimming on the prime, otherwise it would’ve been perfect
i hope that trimming can be stripped off, i rather DIY with some panels with other colour or the 1 from the premium cvt
have to agree with u on this….
a big mistake done by Proton..everything is almost perfect.but the wood trimmings is a turn of….
The wood trim looks better in real life than in the photos. Just saw it this morning.
maybe they shld do it this way…
whoever wants the wood trimmings..they can choose it as an option without extra $$.
coz as we know different people have different way of looking at things……
Exactly! A MAJOR TURN-OFF!
let’s see the real one first instead of only on picture…
this cfe has vvt on intake side and its euro 4 n 5 compliant. On paper,it is not fast, but if u do a non quantitative comparison on acceleration between myvi lg POWER lg BEST 1.5 auto on real life, u will know the result. So those driving 1.5 auto myvi, eventhough it has extreme name, dont cucuk2 cfe exora, not only because of dangering lives, but also dangering urself being smoke by nearly 1.5 tonne mpv :-)..for manual myvi LPLB se@extreme, u can try out,but remember,if u cannot shift fast enough, u will also be smoke by this gabak mpv coz this gabak mpv comes with cvt(no shifting required), but if exora bold owner shift from D mode to L mode, be prepared to be smoked by them :-).
Pug 5008 is a better mpv, no doubt about it. The only thing i doubt diffrent info on fc n performance of msian spec 5008 with uk specs.
In uk, basic spec 120 hp na vti (WITHOUT rear pwr window n only solid white color, manual 5 speed) cost u on the road mrrp price 18145 pound@rm89641, fc 9.5L/100km urban, mixed 7L/100km, century sprint 12.3 scnd. For thp 156 (solid white,manual 6 speed,WITH rear pwr window) cost u 20645 pound@rm101991, fc 9.9L/100km urban, mixed 7.3L/100km, century sprint 9.7 scnd.
The best part,if want to change to metalic paint, u need to add 440p pound@rm2174. If not,everybody buy 5008 have to bear have only 1 color that is white.
The fc,century sprint was done by manual cog, not auto as we get here in malaysia, so basically a bit slower in century sprint n a little high in fc. If u read the reviews in uk, the published fc really hard to achieve, really need to add 0.5L to 1 L to figure given. The price is without exorbitant tax in malaysia.
So, basically, i think bold for 79k price n prime for 88k (with heavy tax even for national car) is actually cheaper than pug 5008 that doubt as whatcar best mpv 2010.
If make comparison in term of price, exora bold premier still cheaper (interm of price versus equipment) compare to 5008, but nevertheless,5008, still one of the best mpv out there with the price tag given.
Now, for 3008,i keep it short. By the way,actually interm of dimension,exora sits in between of 3008 n 5008.
Being smaller, thp156 3008 cost rm97084, still one color white, no rear pwr windows. But still far better standard safety equipments minus many accessories. Fc the same as 5008, sprint better than 5008. Manual cog, not as auto in malaysia..
Still not added the insurance yet, all prices without insurance n little tax.
So,conclusion, exora bold premium n prime is not bad at all in term of performance, fc, price n equipment. They do a commendable job. Yup,it is still far if compare with one of the best mpv on the world such 3008@5008, but not that far. Atleast, it is on par or better than any japanese mpv in the same price tag, same segment out there n in malaysia. Remember, exora already has been named as best mpv in thailand n indonesia beating all the odd n japans counterpart, now its time for bold to shines n leave them a little bit futher than before. Peace yo.
how to compare with peugeot bro? this is really too far for u to compare to that 5008…really..
that peugeout has full panaromic sunroof, massive bout electronics…i think 4 zone air con….countless airbags…countless safety acronmys like TCS n so on..better proper 6 speed gearbox, more powerful engine…just because exora has a CFE u said this exora is on par?
exora does not even have demister man…for its front windscreen. even saga does not have this….suprisingly my savvy had…. n now my neo also has auto air con..weird a 80k car dont have..n u compare it with a 5008?
“Atleast, it is on par or better than any japanese mpv in the same price tag, same segment out there n in malaysia.”
WTF this idiot talking thrash, take this Jaguh Kampong shitty Exora to Japan, then by your crap statement, compare it with Toyota Wish, Honda Stream, etc which is in the same price tag, same segment out there n in Japan!
Being brainless blind supporters, as usual would attack everything and anything blindly.
Hey moron..the giy gave a constructive view…and to a large extent irs true the exora is better than the generoc japanese mpvs in the market..avanza,inova and even can challenge the llivina..he did not compare to wish and stream moron as these are not common mpvs in the malaysian market..please use ur brain befoore calling other people stupid u asshole.
You are the Moron of lowest class! He give craps and bullshiting, yet you treat is as holy true? What an idiot and mindless stupid blind supporter, below posting are comments come with evidents to prove Mr. Mad lies thru his teeth.
Please use your brain! or you are brainless? Or Mad rempit stole your brain last night? Enough said.
“The best part,if want to change to metalic paint, u need to add 440p pound@rm2174. If not,everybody buy 5008 have to bear have only 1 color that is white.”
Where is the proof or provide evident that UK 5008 only has white colour? Being maddest of mad stupid cybertrooper, or P1 salesman, try to bulldoze thru and to deceive the public at large by feeding FALSE information and at all time telling lies!
See link below: –
http://www.buyacar.co.uk/cars/peugeot/peugeot_5008/category_7025.jhtml
5008 FACTS & FIGURES and the TRUE quote,
The Peugeot 5008 is available in a wide range of colours; White, Silver, Grey, Black, Red, Blue and paints; Metallic paint, Solid paint and Pearlescent paint.
mad craps – 3008 – “Being smaller, thp156 3008 cost rm97084, still one color white
http://www.peugeot.co.uk/vehicles/peugeot-car-range/peugeot-3008/build-price/
FACT – Go to the above link and count how many colour available for 3008!
Another MAD crap: -
If make comparison in term of price, exora bold premier still cheaper (interm of price versus equipment) compare to 5008
By the same link above,
5008 – Official combined fuel economy figures give a low of 38.7mpg and a high of 57.7mpg. The lowest Co2 is 125g/km
Another link,
http://www.autocar.co.uk/www.autocar.co.uk/CarReviews/FirstDrives/Peugeot-5008-2.0-HDi-150-Sport/243879/
5008 Specs & equipments
All models will get seven seats, and the basic spec will include ESP stability control, an electric parking brake with ‘hill hold’, low rolling resistance tyres (on 16in to 18in wheels) and air conditioning.
There are five power options: two are 1.6-litre petrol engines (120bhp with a five-speed gearbox and a 150bhp turbo with a six-speed).
Three are diesels: a 1.6-litre, 110bhp HDi with either six-speed manual or six-speed clutchless semi-autos; and a 2.0-litre turbodiesel with either 150 or 163bhp,
And the mother of all lies by this mad cybertrooper is: -
FALSE
“By the way,actually interm of dimension,exora sits in between of 3008 n 5008.”
FACTS
3008 – Its overall length of 4.365 metres and wheelbase of 2.613m
5008 – Its overall length of 4.5 metres and wheelbase of 2.73m
Exora – overall length is 4,592 mm and wheelbase of 2,730 mm
Hello, Mr. Mad, what else you want to craps and BS?
Hei, stupid idiot, 3008 and/or 5008 have 1.6 petrol, 1.6 diesel and 2.0 petrol engines options, all are Euro 5 complied. Do Cam-Tak-Pro achieve this?
do Alza,Livina,Innova,Avanza achieve this?
mr expat,thats why i said u r stupid, read everything i post first. Lazy to read, even pug brochure. I downloaded the brochure. I said one color option for the price mentioned. The other colors are avalable but its an option n u have to pay more than rm 2k to have that. Read, read n read. There are many options available, i just take the sample of petrol engine coz exora bold using petrol engine, why need to compare with diesel option?
The figure L/100km also stated in the brochure, dont use mpg since in msia we use L/100km.
I never mentioned exora bold on par with pug 3008/5008, read carefully, i mentioned exora is still far behind it.
R u saying 6 speed auto is better than cvt? If u caunted power loss of an auto around 15 to 20 percent due to torque converter n shifting, cvt is better option cause the power loss is nearly as manual n no@power loss causes by shifting.
I only compare exora bold with its class, i never mentioned wish@stream, u can google urself which japs exora is in when they tested it in thailand n even indonesia.
U r kind of people that lazy to read, pug sell product based on options, not everything is standard, and they have package also, from access, active, sr, allure n etc. Each have diff accessories, diff options. Only certain are common n price also diff.
There are alot of options for u to choose and all come with price.
People like u who never learn to read properly@actually dont understand what u read. People like u also easy to con coz really stupid, never read the terms n conditions applied.
Read, read n read, dont be lazy n stupid. Even u cannot understand what what written down on the pug brochure showing of how low ur language n understanding knowledge.
When i said exora sits between 3008 n 5008 in size, have u look at its overall dimension, its including length, width, height n wheelbase. Not length n wheel base only.
Stupid la u ni, malas membaca, peksa mesti fail memanjang. Baca pun xpaham.
Who don’t read your lips, you conduct “selective comparison” for a reason best known to you, in which it is apple and orange comparison at best. And try to justify this jaguh kampong product is a “good buy”!
“When i said exora sits between 3008 n 5008 in size, have u look at its overall dimension, its including length, width, height n wheelbase”- Mat
Length : 3008 (4,365 mm), Exora (4,592 mm), 5008 (4,529 mm)
Width : 3008 (1,837 mm), Exora (1,809 mm), 5008 (1,837 mm)
Height : 3008 (1,639 mm), Exora (1,691 mm), 5008 (1,639 mm)
W/base: 3008 (2,613 mm), Exora (2,730 mm), 5008 (2,728 mm)
OK, add one more variable,
Kerb weight: : 3008 (1,425 kg), Exora (1,400 kg), 5008 (1,531 kg)
Based on the above info, non of the dimension shown Exora is sits in between 3008 and 5008, either Exora are less than both (Width), more than both (Length, W/base & Height). Even the kerb weight of Exora is less than both!
Enough said, as you said “READ & READ”, hei “Mahaguru Mat yang amat arif dan paling pandai”, jangan malas membaca lor …. LOL ……… you go and figure out how to justify your statement.
Just to give you some tips, the best way to categorize them is by segmentation. All this 3 models are under C-segment, and considered as “compact MPV”, “small MPV), or the like, as may be published in the manufacturer website (as the case maybe). The “less/more than few mm” in dimension(s) doesn’t make them bigger/smaller as it is still fall within same segment.
Expat. VN,
couldn’t u read, could u?
“The best part,if want to change to metalic paint, u need to add 440p pound@rm2174. If not,everybody buy 5008 have to bear have only 1 color that is white.” _says Mat .
“Where is the proof or provide evident that UK 5008 only has white colour?..bla..bla..bla crap stuff”_ says Expat. VN.
Mat wants us to know that white is std color & u have to pay more for other than white.
Expat. VN misunderstood?
to Expat. VN,
pls add another vocabs. READ & UNDERSTAND.
at 1st place, try to FOCUS.
lol
“The best part,if want to change to metalic paint, u need to add 440p pound@rm2174. If not,everybody buy 5008 have to bear have only 1 color that is white.” – mat
“Mat wants us to know that white is std color & u have to pay more for other than white.” – farghmee
Still want to argue until the cow come home! ok to be fair to all parties, 3008 and 5008 solid colour for “White” (general term) is not accurate, but is “Bianca White” (specific term) is more accurate. To get metallic colours for 5008 (Nera Black, Aluminium Vapor Grey, Shark Grey, Egyptian Blue, Babylon Red and Hickory), the buyer has to pay extra GBP 440.
This is uk presentation which in our Malaysian context is just divided into metallic and non-metallic colours, and come together with the price different.
To say that “white is standard colour”???? Where do you get from? Plug from the sky r farting from your mouth! Peugeot never said “white” is standard colour in their website, but refer to “solid colours” and “metallic colours” + GBP 440 only.
Don’t twist my word and misrepresent Mat’s sentence meaning! Try to be smart, but not so smart after all!
So throw back to you, Farghmee, swallow your own bitter medicine:
pls add another vocabs. READ & UNDERSTAND.
at 1st place, try to FOCUS
Hey expat VN
You live & work in Vietnam ar?
Which part? Hanoi or ho chi Minh?
I think you have been staying in Vietnam too long that’s why your brain become “TEPU” like the vietnamese.
Oh, oh, Dato Seri, you have to come out on your own to become attack dog! Why? your anak buah don’t do a good job?
For anyone bewildered by the rather long winded argument between these two – here’s what they’re arguing about – http://www.peugeot.co.uk/Resources/Content/brochures/technical/peugeot-5008-prices-and-specifications.pdf.
To cut a long story short, in the UK if you want to buy a Peugeot 5008 in any other colour than Bianca White, it costs RM 2K. End of story.
Don’t bother with Expat VN. He is an idiot.
Beware, another wild brainless crap from attack dog!
bro, did ur relatives died in a proton car before? did someone driving a proton accidentally killed ur pet(s)? are you allergic to proton cars? did proton car’s exhaust gas gave u cancer? r u in pain whenever someone buy a proton car?
r u so poor u cant afford to buy a japanese/conti car at the current price plus tax/duties and all that? is that why u keep on complaining about the tax imposed on imported cars? cant afford a bungalow in klang valley coz u have to pay high installment for your Honda Accord 2.0?
nah, if he thinks he’s good, then let him be.
most readers here are mature enuf to think :)
What’s wrong with Expat VN’s counter arguments to prove wrong all those pathetic P1′s cyber-troopers’ typical crap bullshit selective copy & paste comparison in their feeble yet embarrassing effort “glorify” this over-grown baby ?
In all honesty, IF all cyber-troopers can provide FACTUAL and APPROPRIATE COMPARISONS, (IF ONLY yeah, FAT HOPES as we all know), honestly bliv Expat VN will have nothing to comment, yes ?
BUT, if one CONTINUES to CRAP, FART and MAKE SHALLOW COMMENTS, why feel upset/insulted when proven wrong by Expat VN ? It really is PATHETIC especially EVEN WHEN PROVEN WRONG, still dont wanna accept facts, and start childish name calling and asking ppl to leave the country and what not.
P1 troopers, STOP CRAPPING first, then YOU WONT GET INSULTED.
Simple enuff ?
And you’re typical malaysian busy body type.
Just sit back and enjoy the show…
Aiya..only solid white…metallic or pearl white tak ada ka?
luv the price.
bro…dont too greedy….we still dun know the end result rite….so, lets test drive it then we can say something here…good or still the same…
nowadays,people usually buy 1 import car and 1 national car…u want to buy turbo engine car for your second car? Not for me….BUT…..people will buy this for their 1st car…and for the 1st car, they will usually think for import cars….
in terms of quality, proton is improving……i think this technology is not to cover exora small problem, BUT i hope this technology will be in P3-21A soon…haha….looks like muscle-car…
the only car that look nice in wood trimming is “cap bintang”
Gila buruk wood panel tu!… luckly there is BOLD…, PRIME memang ugly.
I love the specs for the bold premium… hope to see it in a crossover chasis (like the proposed lekiu… really waiting for that..!)… hated the plasticky faux wood trims for the prime…
Once again the Dilbert Marketing theory is proven:
“How do you sell a bad product? – Sell it to stupid people!”
Whoohooo! There you go folks! That’s the best trick of all: Selling bad product to fools! Ha Ha Ha!
Even my blind uncle Stevie Ponder can SEE that for RM78K-RM88K you better buy new Avanza or Livina.
“Wanna save money? Never buy a Protongkat” – my wise blind uncle Stevie Ponder always said.
“How do you sell a bad product? – Sell it to stupid people!” – never forget this tips also ya! Ha Ha Ha!
Hahaha when grand livina and avanza has a weaker engine, stupid interior and lesser specs compared to this gooding exora bold cfe.. LOOLL
“Bad mouthed people will be perceived as bad people”-mine
this fella not only bad mouthed, but bad hearted too..
Ajaw: I agree with you since the avanza only sells well in malaysia and indon. They dont even sell this crap in their own country..lol
wow proton coming of age…
gold rims, reverse sensor, captain seats, fake wood inserts…
good pricing too.. lets hope they deliver this time… one last chance perhaps?
i hope alot of people get the new exora because its a good car.
i’m not getting exora, but i hope everyone getting it so 12 months down the road people will realise how sucky proton still is and boycottt potong altogether.. then only then will we get cheaper cars and i will be able to afford my peugeot 5008 :)
sell proton sell!!
Greetings fellow Malaysian. I love the Exora. I have the 1st model and i find it worth it in every way! and now I’m drooling..with all the extra bits proton has put in to the Bold and Prime…i love my exora with all these new bits…and i i know i can get it ah bengs shop..but i dont want to void my warranty..Mr Syed, can u guys come up with a dealership endorsed accessory shop to satisfy my craving ? (the extras in prime and bold) i bet a lot of us the old exora owners would like to have what the new cars have…and pat on the back Mr Syed….well done Captain.. for bringing proton back in the lime light…back in 1986..was 11…a dream come true to own one today ;) Syabas..keep up the good work
Generally the exterior looks updated.The small stuff that should be further trimmed are the wind screen wiper which prefer to install latest ‘frameless’ type instead of cheaper feel of frame type wiper. Also, turbo version should come with bi-exhaust pipe..
As for interior design, the matching of Prime version really feels outdated as this should come with titanium or leather feel of dashboard trimming. The wooden make so cheap of feeling. Personally think that the Bold version feel comfortable. Yet, the logo still insist to put low class plastic where should replace by actual logo to enhance the classy feel. Furthermore, auto climate control in place rather than manual control..
Talking on the power mill, just wana understand more the modification can’t benchmark to PSA Price 1.6T or VW 1.4TSI range in order to really give this rivals a compete…
Just had a look at the Exora Prime & Bold at PROTON COE. The interior feels more premium than Bold and the wood paneling actually looks better with the dark interior than the finishing inside the Bold. The cars look better than what you see in the picture.
WOOWWW!!!!
reasonable price , value for money
if only i could trade in my whitey with that brownie..
overall looks good, but dashboard design need major improvement n better quality coz it is major part inside car. Exora prime dashboard looks outdated la.. for 205 Nm torque & CVT gearbox really excellent improvement!
I recall someone mention about the comparison between CFE with Pug Prince engine (the 156bhp, 240Nm) but I cannot find it again (my bad). so for the purpose of knowledge for all, I read a bit. I found out that the Pug stroke is 77 x 85.8mm (hence the 1598cc), compared to CFE 76 x 86 (hence 1561cc). Perhaps (this is big perhaps, i know), CFE maintain campro CPS bore stroke and the 1597cc, it may achieve what the Prince produce. As for now, i’m still waiting for the ouput of the chat between Anthony Lim and Proton engineers to know why they made the decision to shortened. Anthony, hope you reading this? ;-)
not to mention pug engine got direct injection and dual scroll turbo..
but the price of the engine is much higher than this CFE looll
i believed someone had explained it in previous thread of exora bold..
http://paultan.org/2011/12/15/proton-exora-bold-brochure-scans-reveal-all/
quoted from squall_shinoda..
squall_shinoda says:
15/12/2011 at 7:09 pm
Actually it is to lower the compression ratio so that the CFE engine will be less prone of knocking. Higher density of oxygen in force-aspirated engines means more tendency of knocking, so the compression ratio must be lowered to avoid knocking.
It appears the fuel tank capacity has been increased by 5L
Good, it can cover more distance!
i heard exora bold’s turbo don’t have intercooler. is it really ok? bcause as far as i know, turbo need intercooler to cool down turbine
Got lar
what u heard is totally wrong… this cfe have a intercooler on lhs fr bumper…
Only for high pressure turbo. Not for lpt. Even Hilux don’t have intercooler.
that’s why you shouldn’t just hear things from your fren.. do check it out yourself, with your own eye :)
no big deal if a turbo engine got no intercooler. intercooler is used to cool down the intake air, thus improving the volumetric efficiency in cylinder because lower temp air is much denser that hot air. so the output per cycle is much better.and it may prevent predetonation too.
It is very interesting that Proton releasing this version and somehow giving us the impression that proton themselves admit that the current exora is underpowered. It is like creating a working but buggy software that is not optimize and later down the road releasing new patches to solve the issues. Exora should have been like this “bold” model in the first place or fit in with a mitsu engine 1.8/2.0 and I would said it would sell like hot cakes. With Mitsu engine as the power plant, definitely catching my attention as a family man who couldn’t afford a 100K++ MPV :)
well, i’m sure there a family man that cant afford an 80K mpv(bold), so the 60K version is good enough..
Malaysian mod head can tune this turbo engine to get above 300bhp. hohoh..
Beating Odyssey?
Whether its mpv or not.. turbo engine is totally different than N.A.
Tune a bit only will give u much improvement..
Definitely worth buy and it have its own attraction…
Maybe could consider this rather than wish?
Nway… for people who still dont trust proton’s improvement.. u can test drive urself..
don’t just take other people’s bashing..test it for urself..
Hi all, i hope got ppl can answer my Q. I dont know about turbo. Wat in my mind is alway think that turbo is to hard push the engine run on next level. I think im wrong :p.
Any1 here can let me know wat is the lifespan of turbo engine? 5yr? 10yr? 15yr? Will different car manufacture turbo lifespan is different? Eg: bmw vs proton… >.<
Maintainance high?
that kind of question, u need to buy the car and experience it..bcos this is first turbo engine by proton..
if u dont know about turbo, there’s a lot of information by just searching ‘turbo’ in google..
it is easier by asking isn’t? please read la bro..that’s what our government is practising over advertisements nowadays..
if u maintain your engine, shouldn’t be a problem. the BOT is not produce by proton. if not mistaken, it’s by borg-werner, so if you maintain your car regularly, no problem. the turbo itself, depend on the pressure bar. if put too high (eg. 1 bar) and always open, of course la your maintenance will be higher. if less than that (say, 0.5 bar), shouldn’t be as high cost as the 1 bar.
may be other forummers have other opinion.
Yes, the turbo-charger unit could be a reputable foreign make, but the engine, exhaust system, ECU, etc may not be.
Case scenario: add a turbo-charger, the engine runs at higher pressure + temperature. Being a Proton, at the end of day, everything else kaput except the turbo-charger from (Borg-Warner?) …
Turbo charger lifespan for a Proton?
I fear the turbo-charger in a Proton may blow in 1/2 year, or 5,000km. Whichever come first.
Come on, on average 2 generations of Malaysians per household had been cheated by Proton. My dad had driven two models – a Saga 1.3 and a Wira 1.5. Myself a Wira 1.5.
All of the above had higher cases of problems per year compared to equivalent foreign models. I don’t even remember now how many times I’ve had to change the powered window brackets for the front left and right doors.
A turbo charger in a Proton? You have to be very brave or full of money (and time) to buy one.
High maintenance and reliability issues? Perhaps this is the reason the Jap car makers and Koreans have yet to mass market their cars with turbo-chargers.
My view, go for the proven car makes i.e. Volkswagen; Ford; Peugeot if you want a turbo-charged car. If you’re keen to go for the Proton CFE, at least awhile to see if there are any reliability issues faced by the frontline / first batch of buyers.
SUNSC
strangely enough, those reliable car makes that you mention also get their turbo charger from borgwarner. in fact, it is believed that volkswagen is their biggest customer.
and condolences for you, your proton has not been working well for you. i drive saga, iswara and now waja, so far so good. lets just not started with P1 vs other car makes. I will say 1 thing and you will say another to counter. it stays there forever la friend…
Almost everyone here have same bad experience with old proton models. My family also used to own a Saga Megavalve 1.5i, 2 proton wira, 2 saga BLM, and a Gen-2. It depends on individuals, some people already give up, but many Malaysians are forgiving and wanted to see Proton success. Proton shown lot of improvement under DSZ and that is the reason why most malaysians still support Proton.
i drive gen2 with NA campro for 6 years now and clocked more than 250000km. the engine serve me very fine without problem, alhamdulillah. the only thing is i bought that car in 2005 during proton dark day and yes, the assembly quality disappoint me. but if u say the engine not reliable, u r wrong..in fact those p1 cars u have are mitsu engine.
Borg Warner turbo charger yes, but other components may be local i.e. engine, cooling system, exhaust system, etc.
End of day, everything else may kaput except the turbo charger from B-W. Example: overheated engine block due to inefficient / low reliability cooling mechanism. Or the engine could not stand the extra combustion pressure and blow some pistons.
It’s a matter of trust – I don’t trust the Proton brand anymore. 20+ years since 1980s, and still could not stand on own feet without government protection. And still producing non-par products.
do u have proof that proton cant stand on their own?
sunsc > Other cars dont hv such problem?
The CFE just launch for 1 day only, you already came up with all sorts of negativity. All based on your assumptions…. tsk tsk tsk.
suck it up boy…. We are moving forward. Live with that.
To all the champions of Proton, please put your money where your mouth is – I hope all of you place bookings for it, and prove us skeptics wrong that this 20+ yrs old company, who has so much trouble keeping simple components from constantly failing i.e. powered windows, could produce reliable forced induction motor vehicles.
I’d gladly sell my foreign made turbo-charged car and follow suit in getting the CFE if it’s proven reliable and durable.
Overall view, Proton done a good job, but it has to do better to catch up with its competitors. Right now it’s 1 generation lagging behind its competitor. in terms of technology, styling, safety and engineering. Meaning what Proton just released today, its competitors already have them 5 years ago.
Wah here, wah there….. but sales still lose out to Alza.
So then why Alza still lose out to Persona… Can i said that.. Coz u hv started comparing not Apple to apple..
but your persona is losing out to viva. hahaha… loser
why not comparing viva sales and saga sales
why not compare saga and myvi sales?
omg,… hahah … them proton ppl .. . No wonder proton is struggling to stay afloat with these staffs.
ur myvi onlu can sell in kampung bolehland in malaysia.. even in Indonesia nobody wanna buy under perodua badge…
ur are REAL JAGUH KAMPUNG la perodua salesgirl
prrrtfhhh
Pathetic la you.
Dapat no 1 for 2-3 months dah kecoh satu kampung.
Kesian proton. Ingatkan boleh dapat top spot in sales sebab japan nuclear meltdown, mana tau kalah lagi.
Alza only can sell in bolehland la..an conned kampung ppl.. Even in asean nobody wanna buy laa prrfftt
Then you think your exora can sell outside malaysia?
aiyaa lenchai aa.. go see in thai & indon exora selling like hot cakes there hoo.. somemore win awards there also maa..
how many unit sold? ….
can sell or cannot sell? ;)
Asking question also thumb down? … Proton should send their staffs for courses.
you go first la.. jgn jd katak bwh tempurung..
untill now alza sale cannot xceed 4k per month as per P2 xpected b4.
xkn Proton lunch Exora Bold dh goyang..
funny le u P2 sales girl.. hahaha..
then how many alza sold in Thai and Indon.??. even not even sold and nobody wanna buy perodua badge… they will only consider daihatsu or toyota badge
Good job. Proton! However, after looking at Exora Prime from the photos, I think that Proton should just launch a single variant rather than launching both Bold and Prime. I’m sure many would just go for the Bold-variant.
Just my point of view.
dun worry nizam80… PRIME is targeted to export market… thats why there is not much promo for PRIME…. malaysian people still cannot afford to pay more for less… ahahah
so dont have to worry… major buyer for this is Indonesia and Thailand….
still using the old school anolog type air cond unit ? why is it so hard to fit in an auto climate control system ?
yeah, I was hoping for climate control at least..
added cost lah.
bet u never used its bcoz in malaysia so hot so we manage set our ac to the lowest temp we can get. xpayah auto2 never used it la… like mms all we have that service but how many pic u have send this month???
Avanza non turbo, no issue
non turbo no power…
not to forget the ancient 4 speed auto
Time to die, Proton.
Good riddance
eh, since the CVT is already here, when the manual getrag 6-speed manual want to launch? wanna feel the turbolah hehehe
bolt on turbo , ratio is 10:1…possible?
why not ?? mine waja bolt on turbo with 0.7bar with stock internal parts
already 5 years and almost 300k km covered …… PROTON tak bodoh
dear bro…actual and official compression ratio is 8.9:1
next time pls refer to reliable source not hearsay from ur perodua salesman
prrrtfhhh
bolt on turbo . ratio 10:1 ?…
whats the big hoohaa about proton ? my gen2 plain vanilla campro has clocked more than 200k,no issues, its easy to mantain, cheap to run. and i can still cruise at 130/140 on my balik kg trips.
if you say other models maybe … but a gen2? hahahaha ….
What bout gen2? I’ve own one, 2005 model, clocked 160k. Still no big issues.
mine 330 k … still doing 130 km/h 200 km daily…. still good.
my gen2 1st batch 2004 clock 250,000km..just change 2 times timing belt cost about rm250 per set..i thing basher only basher..they dont have nothing..drive corrola KE70 pun dah belagak cm naik camry…they only know technology but dont know how to use and cannt afford to pay
can’t wait for Paul review
I still prefer the Exora over the Chery and Nissan MPVs.
Then u shd buy two, if not Proton gonna die soon man.
why you so butthurt.. haha
Daddy decided to buy MPV instead of hatchback?
:mrgreen:
Hi all,
Just return from test drive Exora Bold Premium 1.6 CVT in Senawang Proton.
Been looking for MPV but i think I have found what I want.
My family own Waja (Mitsu AT & Mitsu MT), Gen2 CPS MT and Myvi 1.3 SEi. I have test driven Exora MC, Freed, Grandis, Grand Livina 1.8 and Alza. Didnt consider Innova bcoz previous experience (nauseated and nearly vomitted after lunch and only sit in the 2nd row.. very bouncy even at 60-80kmh). Lastly decided after test drive the above MPVs, I set my budget <RM100k… so Grandis and Freed is out.
So I test driven the new Bold Premium. Will stated each point vs the old Exora MC
1: Looks: its subjective but for me much better than Exora MC especially the rear lights (brownish tint casing in Bold- looks better in gold colour compared white)
2. Leather seats: now ALL leather. No more suede at the side of the seat. Good for family with small kids like me.
3. Stated in the brochure electric folded mirror- forget to test this today
4. Both front seats have arm rest
5. Tyre is 205/55/R16… better compared to the previous 195/65/15
6. Engine:.. In a nutshell… Far better than my Gen2 CPS (which Exora MC also have).
Got 2 modes.. Normal D and SAT D. I think SAT is a sport mode. Got switch at the gear console.
Very smooth gear change. SAT is even smoother. up and down gear no jerking.
Going uphill behind the Senawang Proton (not like cameron/genting) from stop at the trafic light… initially rpm goes up to 4k then it settle down below 2.5k rpm. on flat road, gear change happened at around 2k rpm (80kmh). Better than the underpowered CPS 1.6 which revv up to 6k rpm at the same spot when i test drive exora mc one month ago.
7. Dashboard is better. finishing details much better. colour combination is better. all this is comparing with the exora mc.
8. Embedded LCD at the rear view mirror… it will appear if Reverse only. Got 2 lines. Green and Yellow inner line. Tested Reverse parking in front of the old exora test drive until the yellow line.. still can open the boot safely. even a large tesco trolley can pass thru.
The rest will be the same as the old MC. only additional of rm3k from CPS to CVT/CFE + accessories. The test drive unit is only 200km on the odometer this morning.
Thats all that I can share today. Really happy especially with the new CFE engine with CVT gearbox.
Test drove too. More responsive than the non turbo version.
Just discovered that they have a yellow substance thing in a casing at the lower front end of the body below the radiator before the engine. When collision occurs it expands once contact with the radiator water and form a cushion of spongelike stuff that absorb the impact. I never knew about this before and suprisingly they said it was there on the older model too.
errr…. brother…. if CVT still jerking… it’s not a CVT anymore… ^^”
jus look at passenger aircon duct….walaoeh…
This car sucks, no matter how it changes….
Same to all stupid and blind supporters, all are as “sucks” as this car.
Is that all you can think of Mr? what happen to all of your lengthy but empty comments?
yeah, and yet u are the one almost everyone calls stupid
butthurt with proton sir?
mind to share ur definition of “sucks”…???.s.
the same goes to you
nothing personal but your name remind me of “orang Indon”?
I prefer a stress free driving. I use Honda Accord and Toyota Camry as example. While both have their pros and cons, I much prefer the Camry because it’s so easy and stress free to drive. I don’t appreciate the more exciting driving experience of Accord.
Now I have driven the earlier Auto Exora and the No.1 thing I hated is the engine. It’s so noisy and stressed that I too felt the stress. So much so that I wanted to puke. So how’s this new CVT turbo charged Exora?
give it a try… the old exora rev high rpm.. similar to my gen2 cps… but this exora bold… the needle lingers around 1.5k-2.5k once u already move the car from stand still. even at 80kmh the rpm is about 2k.
i agree camry and accord are damn good but they r in the class of their own and damn expensive. furthermore exora is an MPV with 7 seater while accord and camry are luxury sedans with 5 seater. apple vs orange.
Just give it a test drive. it is quieter than the old exora cps. i like the lcd+rear view mirror!
Im stressed reading your comment! Aarrrgghhhh!
Telor Sebiji Riuh Sekampong. That’s how time and again folks would flock to see what Protongkat peddling shouting on the pasar malam. And they got conned again.
CFE – 9th Wonder of the World? CFE – Conjob For Exora? Who cares.
It’s funny how Protongkat always rely on certain group of idiots for sales knowing it’s crap, faulty, worthless and still keep on buying it.
Perhaps in economics theory it’s the imperfect elasticity – supply crap for fools. Fools got pulled by their sheer stupidity.
And how do you tap this car buyer category? That’s right: Keep on selling them with bad products! Amazing how happy they’re buying craps!
You thought you just bought value-for-money car full of power and punch? Ha Ha Ha last laugh from the Kroni suppliers not you the buyers!
Dilbert Marketing: “How do sell a bad product? – Sell it to stupid people!”
eh suka hati la..lu takut lu pnya sales drop ya macha?
dia butthurt tu
Your nickname made me noticed that W-A-J-A written back word is ……… :mrgreen:
Typo pulak: backward :(
P2 pny salesman nih……
I thing Honda EX5 owner….
No lah.. she is Expatriate VN. The same person.
i bought the said to be very well branded car VIOS at 80+K and i would say, it is crap like you…pay more and you get less…
pity ur parents having an idiot as their child..
ahhh ni sure Expatriate VN in disguise..ayat sama je kantoi..hahahaha
what a crap car! 1.6 turbo and yet it takes 13.3 secs to hit 100km/h?! the VW Cross Touran with 1.4 TSI engine does it in under 10 secs and returns better economy. The Touran has more torque and more power as well.
I wont be surprised if the stupid CVT gearbox will die within 3 years. CVT gearboxes are not durable.
people will argue about the price but given a level playing ground the price of the Touran in Europe will be a higher than Exora. but in such a level playing field market, the Touran would still be a better buy given all the specifications and the NCAP 5 star crash rating.
proton still cannot build a decent car.. all crap
comparing 80k exora bold with expensive touran ya..
looks like proton is moving up in the world yo
That’s what I thought, bro. Haters are starting to compare Proton with an European make. It’s a good sign. I really can’t wait for the day when the Proton’s global car starts selling in Europe and maybe in the US one day. We’ll see!
proton is not compared to perodua cars and 2nd class japs car ASEAN made anymore..
yeahhh go global
CVT can die? For your information VW use twin charge (turbo+supercharge) and DSG (Direct Shift Gearbox) or dual clutch transmission that why it accelerate faster than Exora that use single turbo and CVT,you cant compare global car with non-global car,that very wrong.
Not a bad package this time but still feel a little overpriced. For that I believe it would be difficult to tapau Avanza or Livina since most buyer here dont really buy based on specs but merely on brand name.
This is better than livina.. lebih ruang.. lebih selesa.. ada rear aircond.. rear seat can split 50-50.. kalau suruh pilih antara livina dan bold/prime.. saya akan pilih bold/prime.. livina 3rd row panas dan sempit..
orang kalo ada otak, dia boleh fikir dan pilih dengan betul..tgk segala aspek. org yang semata2 tgk brand tu tak panjang akal…boleh kata bodoh la..
lagi lagi yang dok bash tak tentu pasal..kesiannnnn..mcm da xder modal langsung nak bash..kesiannnn..
The bashers are starting to get desperate, bro. They are hoping for Proton to “gulung tikar” so that they can buy and drive Golf/Rocco at RM80K. LOL.
At this point, there is no other way for Proton to go, but FORWARD.
i also said 5008 n 3008 are better equip n are dubbed among the best mpv in the world, but there is a price u have to pay for it. I dont want to campare it to 3008@5008, since somebody point out n compare it with pug, so i just point out pug is not exactly mpv that u shud compare with coz different league. Already mentioned the diffrence in my previous post.
So,mr expat, have u learn to read yet, if not, i think smart reader is open for u next year, u can apply to enter smart reader, it has a lot of branch around malaysia.
at 80k i dunno why people would want to buy the ugly chery, avanza or grand livina anymore.. not to forget, vios or city..
half the price of the Touran wt comparable torque!!…if u dun mind about brand, Yup…value for money!! great job P1
Agree with you but sadly here ppl just worship the T & H badge.
something to ponder mr expat, if a simple brochure of pug for buyers that use simple n plain language to ease buyers in understanding what they buying cannot be comprehend by u, now u want to talk about technical aspect, co2 output, ncap, engine, economy, business n etc that is beyond ur reach.
Learn to read first, increase ur knowledge, enhance ur understanding then u can start talking.
Dont talk bout somebody bs here, bs there if u r the bs**tter here.