Comments on: Nissan unveils steer-by-wire, on sale within a year

By: tkling

tkling — Mon, 12 Nov 2012 16:52:46 +0000

why those long long time ago Japanese drive K-car without all safety feature & yet having minimum road accident? is the mentality, attitude & discipline! no doubt passive safety features will help but most of the accident caused by human error!

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By: tkling

tkling — Mon, 12 Nov 2012 16:45:13 +0000

think forward! a steering on yr iphone will be….

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By: tkling

tkling — Mon, 12 Nov 2012 16:43:12 +0000

just look & see…. remote control version will come out….

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By: tkling

tkling — Mon, 12 Nov 2012 16:39:51 +0000

Volvo? recently significant one is anti-roll in CX90… MB? Airmatic come after Lexus’ silky smooth! VW/Audi? Yes the state-of-the-art V12 TDI! Ya…mechanical parts are German innovation but electronic parts Japanese still have a upper hands!

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By: Mohd

Mohd — Sat, 03 Nov 2012 10:07:38 +0000

“steer-by-wire” is theoretically easier to assemble, because there’s no mechanical link between the steering wheel and the actual steering.

The engine bay can be designed different too, as the designer don’t have to take care of the steering column.

The downside: The steering MUST be fail-safe of course (duplication of critical components, redunancy).

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By: owner old car

owner old car — Sat, 03 Nov 2012 04:29:11 +0000

can install on my protong?

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By: BS

BS — Fri, 02 Nov 2012 23:23:37 +0000

Johnny, Johnny. Unfortunately, with the lax of enforcement, we will never be able to ‘force’ people to drive safely. Look at the AES, to me a good thing but now becoming a political issue. Where there are cameras, the motor-cyclist don’t beat the traffic lights. How many people you know have driven drunk?

Coming back to vehicle, ask anyone who have lost family members/loved ones in a collision, they might still be around if the vehicle had an Autonomous Emergency Steering System.

Technology helps, otherwise Volvo won’t be know as the safest car with all the technology. If everyone can drive safely, why many Western countries have laws for minimum air-bags, ABS etc.? Why?

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By: Mohd

Mohd — Fri, 02 Nov 2012 22:50:45 +0000

Interesting! So when the car decides to avoid impending collisions by changing lanes: Who will get the jail term when it runs i.e. over motorcyclists on the other lane? Kimura-san from Nissan?

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By: technical

technical — Fri, 02 Nov 2012 16:40:31 +0000

Yeah i agree with you 100%. It seems that car makers now are trying to sell more technology in the car that is separating the driver from driving the car himself. Everything on new car are now auto this, auto that and it seems that the driver now does not need to think to even drive.

I dread with the things are going now, new generation of drivers wont learn how to be alert on the road and will be too dependant on the ‘automagic’ features of the cars. What will happens is that new drivers wont learn the real skill of driving and wont know to react to emergency situation.

I support with enhancing the safety of cars but car makers should not disengage the connection of the drivers with the car. As a matter of fact, car makers should make the driver and car connect to be as one. eliminating steering vibration is NOT a good way to connect the driver and the car.

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By: thequestion

thequestion — Fri, 02 Nov 2012 15:23:01 +0000

somehow automaker nowadays are trying to pull off the driver-should-focus-on-the-driving and saying they’re saving life. This techie makes the driver too dependent on the car features and thought he/she has confident to drive but in reality, they don’t !

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By: armandd

armandd — Fri, 02 Nov 2012 13:38:41 +0000

In theory, I guess this system is better in every way than traditional rack & pinion hydraulic set up. But, what will happen when the system fails on the road? There’s 3 things that will likely happen:
1. Head on collision with oncoming traffic.
2. Fall off the road and into a cliff or sea/river.
3. Go straight into a tree or lamp pole.

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By: vios

vios — Fri, 02 Nov 2012 13:30:14 +0000

so dangerous..why take risk to put your life to electronic signal and actuator. once fail …confirm …..i will not buy car with this system.

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By: interesting

interesting — Fri, 02 Nov 2012 08:55:16 +0000

What if your battery flat and you need to push the car?? Steering will not work. Also if say engine die for what every reason, you loose steering as well. Or the electronics of the steering fails…..

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By: machai

machai — Fri, 02 Nov 2012 07:26:49 +0000

this has got to be the most fantastically interesting comment in paultan.org ever

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By: Johnny

Johnny — Fri, 02 Nov 2012 05:51:07 +0000

Dude..you won’t need the full benefits of this system if ppl learn to drive safely and not like a maniac during rush hour!

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By: tongi

tongi — Fri, 02 Nov 2012 04:54:18 +0000

yes alike Air Bus A380!

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By: kusochon

kusochon — Fri, 02 Nov 2012 04:43:48 +0000

too much kimchi

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By: spyshotX

spyshotX — Fri, 02 Nov 2012 04:30:38 +0000

certainly if there are cars on both sides the ABS, EBD, BA will intervene.. if not certainly nissan engineers will get sued for not developing a more robust system..

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By: spyshotX

spyshotX — Fri, 02 Nov 2012 04:24:35 +0000

i doubt regarding advantage on packaging coz the system still include gud ‘ol mechanical steering column and racking which will only be engaged via clutch juz in case the ecu goes haywire..

my guess is it’s there to compliment the existing AEB by providing some sort of active collision avoidance function.. the refinement on the steering feel is just a complimentary as well to those who are highly sensitive to NVH.. those uncle & aunty would certainly appreciate such feature..

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By: Jilbaber

Jilbaber — Fri, 02 Nov 2012 03:56:34 +0000

unnecessary tech, only added reason for high tag pricey and list of thing that could go wrong.

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By: Ryan L.

Ryan L. — Fri, 02 Nov 2012 03:40:05 +0000

What if our thumbs were grabbing tightly on the steering wheel and when an emergency comes the steering wheel just turns without us noticing, won’t it like, snap our finger/cause injuries?

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By: Turboman

Turboman — Fri, 02 Nov 2012 03:39:01 +0000

A properly engineered drive by wire has almost zero lag. It uses predictive algorithm that measures how fast u step on the throttle to modulate the throttle plate. For those familiar with PID control systems, that predictive part is the Derivative part.

Im not being a luddite, but i agree with u. Steering delay would be a disaster. We modern humans put too much trust on electronics.

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By: Turboman

Turboman — Fri, 02 Nov 2012 03:30:36 +0000

Dude.

Its like saying a ferrari is better than a proton.

We all know that. 5 series is better than a vios in every way except the price.

A vios is better than a 9 year old kancil.

High tech is a blessing and sometimes its also a curse. Its a personal choice but myself won’t have the balls to own a car that comes with turbocharger, supercharger, twin clutch gearbox, direct injection all in one package for >7 years. Remember, even the best engineered machines are made by people.

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By: Hahahaha

Hahahaha — Fri, 02 Nov 2012 02:58:57 +0000

yeah its true, drive by wire (or any other things thats suit “by wire”) will have a response lag. youve steered to the left then only the tyre make the turn even for 1 second that will cost lives

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By: brader_wii

brader_wii — Fri, 02 Nov 2012 02:08:18 +0000

why dont they attach a wii joystick or xbox motion controller kinect or even playstation move motion controller to navigate our car. i mean if 3 year old are good at them im sure a 60 yr old would do the same

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By: walaweh

walaweh — Fri, 02 Nov 2012 01:37:59 +0000

agreed, even drive by wire is not that technological advance, being used by many for long times, even tong sampah prtn used it since 2004 in sampah campro engine.

But this steer by wire, even existed for long time, but i think none apply it to the car yet. Since nissan had futher improve it, n make it production ready, thats good i think.

But tech has pros n cons. I think they had safety mode if electronic failure@cast away any bugs coz we dont want the car steer not according to our feedback or need@it will be another catastrophy as toyota sticking drive by wire pedal years ago. But that isolated case anyway coz other used it for long time dont have such probs.

Atleast they r trying to provide better tech to consumer.

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By: jc

jc — Fri, 02 Nov 2012 01:16:55 +0000

what if drive halfway my electronics go KO? my car will go straight until it hits something ^^ scary

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By: policeman

policeman — Fri, 02 Nov 2012 00:39:07 +0000

Not a fan of electronics in cars. Drive by wire is horrible with its delay. Steering delay would be worse!

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By: Lightning McQueen

Lightning McQueen — Fri, 02 Nov 2012 00:22:18 +0000

that collision avoidance is good if on your left no other vehicle and no ravine…. otherwise 6 feet under u go…

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By: azrai

azrai — Thu, 01 Nov 2012 23:28:16 +0000

Even monkey can drive Nissan in the future. Remember those Nicki Lauda words?

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