Traffic in the Klang Valley isn’t getting any better, which is no surprise when one considers that over half a million new vehicles are released into the jungle that is our road network every year. High density developments are popping up everywhere to cater for the urban population boom (six million people in KL now, set to grow to 10 by 2020), and I shudder to think what our daily commute will be like a few years from now.
Something needs to be done to ensure KL roads don’t end up like Jakarta’s, and the work-in-progress Klang Valley MRT project can’t come soon enough. But the MRT alone isn’t enough, and our city planners are thinking of measures to ease congestion. One suggestion is to impose parking charges of up to RM40 per hour, Business Times reported.
According to Khairiah Mohd Talha, a board member for the Federal Department of Town and Country Planning, parking charges should be raised to encourage people to leave their cars at home and use public transport. This measure has proved to be successful in other countries, she said.
She said that Australia and Singapore charge A$40 (RM120) and S$40 (RM100) per hour, respectively, while in the USA, cities such as Boston and New York also charge US$40 (RM130) per hour. High parking charges would also help lower carbon emissions and create a safer environment, she added.
Now, we’re not sure if parking in these countries are as expensive as quoted, but public transport in Singapore and cities Down Under are much better than in KL, without a doubt.
The BT report adds that DBKL is currently reviewing parking needs in the city, especially in areas accessible to public transport. Mayor Datuk Seri Ahmad Phesal said the review includes reducing parking lots as public transportation “rises”.
Reducing parking lots and charging high fees for limited spots, do you think this measure will be successful in helping ease congestion? Bear in mind that the MRT will be ready soon, and coupled with the existing LRT lines (extension underway) and KTM Komuter service, Klang Valley will have a decent rail network in terms of coverage.
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Maybe..but i doubt it will be successful since boleh people type that hard to crack in changing attitude..if MRT or LRT stop in front of house of all living soul in klang valley it can success
You have a point there
Our park-right-at-the-doorstep culture has to change first
So often people choose to double park even if there is available parking a few minutes’ walk away
Their excuse? Sekejap saja! This is small town mentality that needs to be changed before the double parking menace is eradicated
DBKL is under state gov is it?
So this high parking charge will benefit the state gov rite?
I cant imagine how expensive to live in Malaysia if they are going to rule the country…
I guess things will be more expensive for selfish and ignorant people; Less so for socially responsible ones.
I’m no saint, but I do think our boleh attitude need to change.
This what happens when you allow incompetent people to give suggestions. The board member cannot understand basic things. I am a regular in city centre and I can tell you why jams happen. Nothing to do with volume of traffic. It has SOLELY to do with Yellow Boxes. Nobody respects the yellow box. Thus, when your right of way turns green, you have either a car or a bus in front of you blocking the way. This causes gridlock and the backlog can go ALL the way to PJ. This highly paid Board Member should just a trip to KL and see this for your self. No wonder traffic cannot move. London has more cars than KL and yet traffic moves. Why? There is enforcement. You don’t have police officers and DBKL officers just sitting in cafes and chit chatting.
Enforce the yellow boxes instead of sitting in cafes and chit chatting. Just like water flowing in the drains and rivers, traffic will flow smoothly. You don’t need highly paid town planners who waste public funds. We all have seen with our own eyes, when the traffic light turns green for even 1 minute, sometimes, only 1 or 2 cars can go through because the yellow box is full of cars. So, the same thing happens on the other traffic light when they are given way in a four way junction.
This causes massive gridlock in the mornings and evenings. Besides cars, culprits are also the busses who block the yellow box.
You don’t need analysis or hundreds of thousands of ringgit paid to Board members to come up with meetings and analysis. This is simple ABC.
Another thing, make sure your polis and DBKL officers enforce the yellow boxes. the problem with Malaysia, even if enforcement is implemented, the Polis and DBKL officers when they catch you, all boleh “settle”. This will pose a major problem. So, what to do? We have to suffer with jams because we have no proper enforcement.
Let me reiterate again, ALL jams in KL are SOLELY caused by ONLY the yellow boxes in Kuala Lumpur. Honour the yellow boxes and you will see, traffic will flow well like Singapore and London. Yes, there will be volume and traffic will move slow, but at least, it will move.
This lady gets paid over RM20k per month to give suggestions like this? She does not even consider the GDP per capita of people in Malaysia. She talks about Australia and Singapore but do you know that the GDP per capita of the Singaporean and the Australian and the British person is about 5x more than the GDP per capita of Malaysians. What this means is simple, The Singaporean earns 5 times more than the average Malaysian. His spending power is 5 times more.
If our spending power is so low, this more will burden people even further. How she became Board Member? When she does not consider all the other facts about cost of living? Also, half of our money goes to paying our car loans because our car prices tak masuk akal. The Mat Salleh can pay RM40 per hour because, for example, his Toyota Camry 2.4 is only AUD$29,000 in Australia. And he earns about AUD$4000 to AUD$6000 per month (normal non professional jobs). He can pay off his car in less than one year. We need 7 years to pay off our loan because our Camry is RM180,000. In Australia, even the kuli or office buy gets AUD$30 per hour.
Though I won’t totally agree with The TRUTH ABOUT JAMS being the SOLE contributers, but yellowbox offenders are most certainly one of the MAIN contribution to traffic congestion in the city.
Case in point, the 3 intersections of Jln Sultan Ismail, Jln P. Ramlee and Jln Raja Chulan – or what I like to call, the “Bermuda triangle of traffic jam”. All it takes is a few inconsiderate drivers to clog up ONE intersection. Then, all hell breaks loose (or in this case, shuts down).
The other contributors to traffic jams are illegal parking in the city. Blocks up one lane in an already congested city. Sometimes, I wish I drive a sherman tank… just plow thru all these illegally parked vehicles.
The other thing is also the busybodies who slowdown to look at accidents or cars breaking down. Sometimes, all it takes is one accident /car breakdown along a key road and jam can go back a few KMs…..
adding to what “The TRUTH ABOUT JAMS” commented, the police are also part of the problem. i travel from jln tun razak towards smart tunnel everyday and our very smart police thinks it is a good idea to block the traffic lights at the rain tree club entrance to allow traffic from bukit bintang to turn out for a good 5mins or to block all the lanes in the tunnel underneath for 5mins even though the road ahead is empty. this cause traffic to back up all the way to ampang park and becos of this the traffic light doesn’t work becos cars are stuck at the yellow box. the same can be said for the area near pwtc……
half the traffic issue in KL is caused by the police. install smarter traffic lights and let them do the job – police and just ensure the cars obey the lights and yellow box.
raising the parking rates – hahahahaha. that will be the end of shopping district in KL. who would want to go to bukit bintang and pay rm40/hr parking when most of the shops can be found in outskirt malls? people might as well go to midvalley or pyramid or curve. ridiculous! when our public transport reach the level of sydney or singapore then you can do this.
Yeah but you forget both singapore and london enforce charges driving your car into the city area. In singapore you have the ERP tolls and London you need that coupon to drive through central london during peak hours if im not mistaken.
We need to properly plan our bus systems and have proper bus terminals not some half baked one taking up space on public roads.
Yellow boxes are one thing but i also work in the city and have to bloody go through tun razak everyday. RSGC traffic light to ampang park takes half an hour sometimes. The jam goes past PWTC and there’s really no yellow boxes in between it.
If were to compare M’sia with SGP, AUS and US… Please make our public transport MRT/LRT more convenience or parallel with their standard then only think about rising parking. Those country living standard are lower than M’sia. Almost everyone are FORCE to drive here to work.
1st of all.. please make decent parking spot at lrt stations. then i have no problem using it
The Truth About Jams is right. There must be strict enforcement on the roads and drivers must behave. Most of the time, drivers that don’t queue, overtake from left, stopped at yellow boxes and weaving in/out of traffic causes the jams. When I was in Seoul, at evening though traffic is bumper to bumper but it moves because most drivers behave and follow proper queues. They will let you join the queue once you signal and drivers there don’t overtake from left or right but will always follow the right lane.
About the $40/hour parking charges in Singapore, I have been driving for 3 years in and out of Singapore but have not encountered any parking areas with SGD $40/hour. The most expensive is in Financial district and charges can be around $8 – 10 hr which is already quite high. In Singapore and HongKong charges are high because of lack of space not because of traffic. Singapore control traffic by ERP charges. When traffic volume are high, their LTA (authorities) will raise the charges and the highest so far is $6 per entry.
Controlling traffic by imposing various charges are good moves but the authorities must first ensure good public transport system are in place otherwise it will cause hardships to the rakyat. For example in Singapore, you can download an app into your phone with gps, it will be able to tell you the arrival time of the next bus or other buses. Bus and LRT companies have been slapped with fines for schedule delays and breakdowns. This year alone, read in the news $ 1.1 million in fines was imposed on train operators for breakdowns and delay. Whenever there is a breakdown of train services in Singapore, the operator will immediately provide alternative bus services to its commuters.
I think for a start the authorities should imposed on cars to pay on a monthly basis say additional entry fee of RM 150 for those entering CBD in KL. Those cars without the proper payment stickers will be fined if found inside the CBD. The authorities can always increase this charges whenever if traffic still is bad. Parking operators can also double charge those cars without CBD entry permits.
DBKL is under Federal Territory KL which is under Pakatan. However that lady who suggested this stupid idea is not from DBKL. She is from some sort of department, under some sort of a federal ministry. Check your facts before making a comment.
Good idea, if knowledge cannot change Malaysian attitude, so let their pocket money work on it..
It is true that 9 out of 11 Parliament areas in KL is under Pakatan.
But to say that DBKL is under Pakatan, I’m sorry that DBKL does not work that way. DBKL is under Federal Territories Ministry, Headed by Umno’s Tengku Adnan Tengku Mansor.
Yo bro which state government are u talking about? Kl is a federal territory under the control of putrajaya. Your from malaysia or any other country? Dont try to be brilliant and die hard support anyone.
DBKL is under Federal Government as KL, Putrajaya and Labuan are considered Federal Territories.
Bro, this isn’t about politics. We have to work together to solve a problem all of us are facing. I don’t think a change in government can reduce the traffic problems. I think its a good idea but it should be improved. Maybe a create a big parking space outside the city and have bus and mrt services from there.
IT IS about politics. Who runs public transport if not the government?
Our politicians’ lack of will to manage public transportation had left us in pathetic state, the majority of us simply couldn’t rely on it.
This force us to get car or motorbike. Motorbike is still not an option for most who treasures safety.
So car is the most practical option for most. But is it the best? No, theoretically, an efficient public transport is.
PR’s manifesto include allocating RM2 billion for purchase of bus, but noooo… nak juga undi BN, nah kau, minyak naik 20sen, bus network is still shit, tapi syukurlah negara aman. Terima kasih BN!!
DBKL/KL is under which state? Do you know what federal Territory is? Do you know why there is a federal territory? Do you know why KL mayor is not directly elected? Do you know anything at all about this country?
DBKL is under state gov..? which state are you referring to..? the state of KL..? lol.. you must be a foreigner who had just received your IC biru not so long ago..
KL? State govt? Are you from mars??
Khairiah Mohd Talha, sort your DBKL officers first. Metrobusses park anywhere they like and 2 lanes become 1 lane. But nobody dare touch the busses or saman them. Why? Are they owned by some Minister’s relative?
If you look at things with different perception, one of the reasons Malaysians came up with the “park-right-at-the-doorstep” culture is partly because of the safety in Malaysia. Most people are afraid and prevent walking on the streets. It’s always unsafe and safety in Malaysia really does bother us.
So if the governments wants to alleviate this issue, they have two major things to improve on:
1)Better public transport system
2)Better security and safety
Cheers :)
In developed countries, they bring buses, trains to your doorstep.
But ooops, efficient public transport bukan budaya kita. tak suka boleh keluar. Terima kasih pengundi BN for voting these incompetent goons!
If you look at things with different perception, one of the reasons Malaysians came up with the “park-right-at-the-doorstep” culture is partly because of the safety in Malaysia. Most people are afraid and prevent walking on the streets. It’s always unsafe and safety in Malaysia really does bother us.
So if the governments wants to alleviate this issue, they have two major things to improve on:
1)Better public transport system
2)Better security and safety
Cheers :)
true that…the young generations nowadays – their mindset is they want everything to be convenient
Actually all these congestion is created by DBKL, State and Govt themselves. They blatantly approves multi-million projects without a care about the traffic impact.
Malaysia is NOT Singapore, Hong Kong or New York. We have plenty of land. Just build further away from the city, why have to cramp all in one place? (possibly some kopi-o involve here). They even try to take over any park, forest, reserve land; whatever they can lay hands on to built more and bigger. I dread to think what will happen when all those multi-billion projects come on stream.
A lot of cities in Australia practise density management for a better quality of life. NOT TO PACK EVERYBODY IN SARDINE CANS!!!
agree, not only KL, i think around Klang Valley suffer the same problem also…
Mama kalau parking mahal, mama tak guna kereta..
mama naik basikal, usung naik LRT.. lepas ni mama kasi MRT untuk uols… chill ok..
Why not make it RM400 per hour or RM4,000 per hour. Make more sense.
As a frequent traveler to KL. I would not mine to park and take the public transport, if the service is up to par with those country she mention. I really do want to save my money than pouring it to the government to spend it on things that are not a necessity ( you get what I mean ). Anyway, our public transport is quite horrible most part of the area. Not to mention people who live 30-40 KM away from KL and have to work in KL. Their side may not have a reliable public transport service.
Someone should serve up these people with their tail stuck between their leg. Than they will know why we have to drive to work.
on the other note. Who here buy a 5000 Ringgit worth of scanner for 100k?
vyseus.. I want to give you 1,000,000 likes if I can!
Aku memang setuju sangat…..lagi cepat kerajaan sekarang pergi jahanam!!!!!
Make it simple, Government can build alot of cheap flats/studios only for rental RM100 per month contact “whole life” all over Klang Valley that near ppl offices with MRT & LRT, then even solve problems like resale value and traffics. Government pls use our money wisely and not into your own pocket!!!
Get rid of those damn Metrobusses, and all other bus service that smog up the road, let the good new busses service the entire klang valley, speed up their services, and we will having something like brasillian or rio where the bus service is that efficient. They got rid of those bus-mini, they surely can get rid of those smog busses.
I have no objections provided always that the public transport system is superb so as not to bother the common public.
I always say that you can charge RM10 per entry for premium toilet which is always clean and hygienic for me to sit on.
I have no objections to RM40 per hour parking fee provided that the public transport system is superb. I like to drive freely and willing to pay, not like others who like to drive but are reluctant to pay, and certainly not the ones who are forced to drive and unable to pay.
The public transport must be improved first.
I’m proposing to the G to instruct all government officers including the higher ranking officer to use the public transport to go to work and leave their car at home.
The G must start first and show example to the public. I suggest the lady that proposed to raise up the parking fee to start first using public transport to go to her office.
And removing the escorts which are paid by the taxpayers, and let them experience what is like travelling like every other citizens in Malaysia.
Ya man, our G hired so many “civil servants” but they instead make rakyat the servant for them.
Highly recommend this, so that we have 1.4 million less cars in all cities !!
Err with the current gomen staff salary and high living cost, most of them can only afford motorbike.
Out of 3/4 of that 1.4 million civil servant oni use motocycle or using none all…eg army, low ranking police officer, low ranking civil servant…the one use car is the one who r at middle ranking to top ranking..they r only small portion of civil servant
Where is the source of your statistics?Typical BS from KZM. PTO self-appointed racist troll!
I work in close to Putrajaya, so please la.
dont be so kiasu la bro. out of 1.4 mil, 300k in military, another 400k are teachers, scattered all over Malaysia, and most central G servant working at Putrajaya, nothing to do with KL traffic, and this article is about KL traffic, so do your study la instead blaming other. and if this 1.4 mill G servant not exist, u think business can flourish and your company can sustain? stop blaming others. we always need each other.. stupid kiasu.
Y do i need statistic?..type of position we know that they don drive to work or just use motobike…army obviously they sleep n work inside army camp, police many of them live in police quarters not far fr police station…. n i believe thats y there is need to separate gov ministry n commercial centre to reduce congestion in city centre
like it or not, it is our government to be blame, it should have strengthen LRT MRT or what so ever long time ago, but develop the highway instead while LRT, MRT is much cheaper to construct! why? because our car is damn so pricey, people wont buy car and pay highway tol. This statement from some minister is only desperate measure because it is so close to year 2020.
KZM “facts” is “Out of 3/4 of that 1.4 million civil servant oni use motocycle or using none all…” i.e. EXACTLY 75.000% or 1.05m. NO MORE NO LESS. Are the numbers lying… or you?
“Y do i need statistic?..” Your opening argument started with those numbers! Now show proof! Not dance around with more generalisations AKA lame excuses.
A normal person collects data, analyses, performs tests before making a conclusion.
I put it you that you’ve already formed your pet theories BEFORE analysing any “data” AKA Prejudice.
@ OPAIXXX. Can you follow the logic?…or do you need me to draw out some sketches?
How you arrived at “.. if this 1.4 mill G servant not exist, u think business can flourish and your company can sustain..” ???
Sudah keluar tajuk. Ada lepas SPM ke?
I still don need to give statistic…common sense..don u feel odd if there is company of 100 with 50 higher rank 50 low rank worker..it just don feel rite…same apply in gov sector
Ahbengs are the culprits tht cause traffic jam. How many ahbeng ride on motorcycle in KL? Worry of getting sun tan?
Hahaha …how true bro . It’s an interesting observation .
Exactly! This is the comment of the day. I want to give u 10000 Likes.
How to ask the government staffs to use the public transport. Proton Accord’s gonna be given to them soon wat. Of course you and i have to pay RM40 per day in order for them to drive happily
“Bear in mind that the MRT will be ready soon, and coupled with the existing LRT lines (extension underway) and KTM Komuter service, Klang Valley will have a decent rail network in terms of coverage. ”
As it is, as a frequent user of LRT and Komuter, the current services has improved tremendously over the last 5 years.
With LRT extensions and new MRT lines, I am very positive about KL public transport. (No opinion on Rapid buses as don’t use their services).
with the extension of Ampang line up until Putra Heights and the introduction of MRT in few years time, i really think that the congestion problem can be resolved step by step. It’s just the mentality of our people that “rich people drive to office” has to be entirely reset.
*i’m one of the engineers for Klang Valley MRT, and i look forward to serve for the community.
Will the MRT project keep on being delayed like the case of KLIA2 ?
well, should check whether the delay caused by valid reason. for example KLIA2 delayed due to amendments to add more space to cater more passengers than was originally planned, and also due to additional runway, and also changes requested by AirAsia and so on… MRT might delay if they can’t resolve legal issue or court actions by land owners.
this guy offer his willingness to serve ppl and you gv this kind of comment? wtf.. shit cybertroopers aka keyboardwarriors.
My only Request for you or the one to take care of the project once it is completed, is please please please make the service highly time abiding. I only need better service, yes Putra And STAR LRT and KTM has improve in recent time, the only issue left now is make it sustainable.
Time to time the service just go downhill…As for buses, the only issue is the driver attitude, I dont mine to give way for you to come out into my lane. at least fix the deng signal lights and give signal.
Please ATP if you can educate them to provide great service, I know a lot, really a lot of people will really use and appreciate the service.
Two main problems with LRT and upcoming MRT:
Poor network of feeder buses and lack of bus schedules.
Lack of efficient interchanges between LRT, MRT and Monorail.
While it is unreasonable to expect access to LRT at our doorstep, there must be sufficient buses with good coverage so that people are able to leave their cars at home or at least reduce the need for them to drive long distances to the LRTs. Currently this is not possible and with poor bus schedules, you could easily end up waiting for a bus up to 2 hours if there is even. How do you expect people to use such services for time sensitive journeys like going to work?
Currently, except KL Sentral and Masjid Jamek, most interchanges are far away and requires passengers to walk significant distances, unsheltered from the elements to switch from one train service to another. This makes it impractical for the elderly, children and the disabled. An example of this would be the interchange between the monorail service and LRTs.
I believe if the above issues are given good solutions, it will encourage a lot more people to take public transport. Also there needs to be better enforcement by the police to prevent crime so that people are not afraid using public transport.
I agree BUT public transport and out-of-city parking must be up to par first
I think so too.
We should focus on the efficiency of the public buses from/to the surrounding suburbs of KL.
having studied/worked in london,singapore and melbourne for a few years. One of the biggest difference is that almost no matter where you stayed (i’ve moved houses alot), there would be a bus/train/tramp stop within walking distance and to me this is the biggest difference between our system and the ones overseas.
For me back in kl now, i live in desa pandan and work in plaza mt.kiara and there’s no way i can use public transport without swapping buses,trains atleast 3 times and even then it doesn’t get me to my neighborhood.
My 2sens, have a huge bus terminal (if possible near mrt/lrt station too) with a huge(and secured) carpark around highly congested suburbs e.g cheras, pj, ampang, sri petaling, etc making it easier for everyone to just park their car and commute into the city. Settle these areas first and then focus on the ones abit further, subang, ttdi, putrajaya etc.
Otherwise, we should start to decentralize, slowly move offices towards putrajaya or klang. Because now, developers just want to profit from the insane demand property in the city can command.
Proper rail network, covered & SAFE walkways, bus network, taxi tat dun overcharge.
If we have these, d high parking rates r great for reducing traffic.
Can we also have lower car prices so every1 can hav newer low emission car for travel during balik kampung.then we will have 1-quality-car/family instead of d current condition of 1-lowQuality-car/person
it really stupid, how about those motorcycle? and also low income people? so all car keep in house and keep serve the loan? they should do something to improve our currency rates, very disappointing with the stupid government
How about sell your car to someone in a less congested state? Keep just one car per family for those groceries run or family outing to Cameron Highland.
We can’t forever act like we’re still living in kampong when we live in big cities.
Definitely not in near future.. Without a car, basically u are handicap.. Even though when the mrt is completed, it still remained to be seen on their efficiency and effectiveness.. Sorry to say i don’t have confident in the ppl who run the job, just look at the existing public transport..
Future SPAD chairman/CEO detected.
RM40 per hour. let say 8 hours per day = RM320 per day and let say 20 days per month = RM6,400 per month. Seriously? i can even buy a house average RM300k – RM400k, a car range RM80k-RM120k and spent others on family expenses.
diorg ni ckp ikut kepala lutut.
skola xabes.
rm40/hr?
buatla kalu berani.
dh la gaji takuk tu juga, rege myk naik.
kalu public transpot tu superb, org xkomplen byk.
feeder bus ada? timing macam mana?
g US tgk US cmna, terus nk tiru.
tp xkaji abis2. xfokus betul2.
jumpa mark zuckerberg kt twitter hq.
well done, sir!
Diorang cakap ikut kepala lutut atau ko yang cakap ikut kepala lutut?
Cerita nak naikkan tarif parking untuk reduce traffic bukan cerita baru ngok! Sejak early 1990’s lagi.
Ko byk sangat komplen! Relax bro, ko pun bukan perfect pun. Mereka sedang improving, bukan do nothing. Ko perasan jem 3 tahun yg dulu sama je cam jem skrg? Padahal dalam 3 tahun berapa byk dah kereta bertambah kat KL ni. Kalau mereka tak buat kerja, skrg traffic lagi worst dari 3 tahun sebelum ni
ye aku ckp guna kepala lutut.
aku xperfect.
sejak 90s lg, tp apa improvement?
tp aku xde ckp diorg xde buat keje kn?
jgn twist statement aku.
diorg ckp pakai kepala lutut, abuya ckp pakai bontuuut.. puiii
I went to US, Anaheim to be exact, a couple of time…i think the bus schedule suck…kind of like malaysian punya standard…if UK underground i do salute…punctual like those brits…
“Punctual like brits”? You must be joking, Britsish rail is the worst and least puntuall railway service in Europe. The London bus service is always late. Subways trains never arrive on time! I suggest you mention Switzerland or Germany – these countries have the most punctual public transport system in Europe.
note: I livd in the UK for 10 years and another 15 years in Continental Europe. Thats why i can tell you that your comment about the UK is totally wrong!
It’s true EU mostly have better public transport, but London isn’t catastrophically bad like ours.
During my recent visit to London, I can still get to almost anywhere, and even if I barely missed a bus, the next one rarely comes any later than 10min for most routes.
And I loved the Oyster card concept giving cheaper rates than cash. Also, it also caps your daily rate. Eg a bus trip costs £1.40, capped to £4.40/day. Which means 4th trip costs 20p, 5th onwards is free. There’s even weekly, monthly, annual pass rate, which is even cheaper.
Here, our bus is laughable, and rapidpass is a failure with no incentive unlike Oyster card at all.
Comparison to high income and better infrastructure countries is rather naive. Reducing parking spot is also not a great solution, it’s like increase sugar price so RAKYAT will consume less.
I suggest this “Khairiah Mohd Talha” aunty go ahead and take a bus or LRT to her office for a week and see herself how miserable rakyat marhein confronted everyday to run this country’s economy (and yes its rakyat not politician)…otherwise she should just shut her mouth and never speak anything related to ‘raised’
I go to Singapore quite often and I can tell you that the SGD40 an hour rate is nonsense.
I live in an area which has no access to LRT or MRT hence public transport would not be a viable solution. Buses do not follow schedule and are usually packed like sardine cans.
It will take probably another 40 years for our transportation services to be on par with other countries and I’ll probably be dead by then.
And it’s especially not viable for people who rely on their car for business purposes. As usual… Never think before talking.
40 years to be on par with other countries. What country do you mean? Your lovely singapore, US, GB? or India, Thailand, Brazil?
Why you live that area with no access to public transport and later complain? Pretty stupid are you.
Pack like sardine? Haha…. You think other Malaysian never go to US, GB or even Singapore? Similar dude
“Why you live that area with no access to public transport and later complain? Pretty stupid are you.”
arrogant.
Macai BN.. oii.. u talk so much but in kampung u dont pay for parking. U just park the shit out of the parking lot.
abuya ni macai bn, kepala kosong, otak xde, tahhhi je ad.. puiii
yes, i work in Sg. I’ve never heard there’s SG$40/hour for parking in Sg.
These people use their knee to think. If given a choice, who wants to stuck in a jam day in day out? And with your public transport like LRT that requires user to cross road to change lines?
Agree, look at the ktm or lrt efficient now…still left behind other 10 year…but charger always on par…once you ride it then you know…I rather ride a motorcycle
Pls try to commute using the public transport for at least a month first, then only make comments. Other countries do indeed have better and more reliable public transportation system in place. Not forgetting the cheaper car prices which compensates for the exorbitant car prices…
when it comes to profitting from the Rakyat, all sorts of justification can be given. what happen to the billions of Ringgit you swindled from the Rakyat with promise of better public transportation in the first place? start it off right then only imitating developed country good practice please.
all of those brainless policy makers talk c*** only and then expect to be escorted by traffic police opening roads for their luxury cars in heavy traffic.
yes i am angry!
Why you angry? If you are Najib, or even Guan Eng, you also will have that and probably say same thing like them.
2×5. Dont talk holy, we knew what is in your heart
u can read heart?
enuff.
Car traders are not going to like this proposal one bit. Meanwhile, bike and bicycle traders will see booming business, since pedal power will be cheaper.
Anyways, if it costs RM6000 to park a month, one might as well hire a driver to drive them to work and back (no need to park), or take a cab to work, if one does not feel like taking bus or MRT/LRT.
One hopes Malacca doesnt try to implement this kind of rate with their proposed 24 hours parking. Yikes!!
No problem, provided that I don’t get robbed and murdered walking to and fro the LRT, MRT and whatever not. And also not rammed to death by those mad Metrobus drivers.
are we taxpayers paying salary for people like this to plan?
U pay tax?
Oh i forgot. U only pay tax for mcD and KFCs right? LOL
U don’t pay tax?
Oh i forgot. U only spend your parents money eating in mcd and kfc everyday right, and failed your economic course? LOL
if you think you are better than them, go for election, see who vote for you.
I live in singapore and I have never seen any are that has a parking of SGD40 per hour. Thats even in the CBD and downtown area. Where on earth did they get their info from?!
The S$40 parking per hour is full of crap! I always parked in Singapore CBD area, and max per day is S$40, not per hour.
Perhaps the minister can walk the talk by leaving his car at home and take public transport. If he does that then I will follow, else …..
I’m sorry but this woman is BS. There’s no such rate as SGD40 per hour.
http://www.onemotoring.com.sg/publish/onemotoring/en/on_the_roads/parking/parking_rates.html
NOT even in HOTELS, Orchard Rd, Attractions and CBD areas where traffic is what they want to curb.
EVen with MRT and LRT, connectivity remains extremely poor in malaysia, MRT and LRT only works up to the station, after you exit prepare to walk kilometres
I am glad she brought up singapore as acomparison because normally they refused to be compared against singapore.
I have stayed in singapore for some years. I have never paid S$40 an hour parking before. what bullshit is she talking about?
In singapore, I don’t even need a car (although I have 1) because the public transportation is so convenient. I can get a shuttle service right in front of my block every 5 minutes to the MRT station. From the MRT I can change lines without going out of the station and practically reach where i want to go. Most of the time, I travel using a combination of buses and MRT.
Here, it is such a hassle to reach the LRT station. I cannot drive my car to the station because there is no parking. I can wait endlessly for a bus which comes whenever they please. There is no shuttle service to the LRT station. In addition, when I change lines, i need to exit the station, cross the road in the rain, queue up to buy ticket again before i take another LRT and then repeat the same process again for the monorail (which has only 2 coach crammed with tourist). From the station, it’s another long walk to my destination, sometimes in the rain.
To top it off, we did the LRT 20 years AFTER Singapore started the MRT. What happened to those millions spent on overseas trips to do field study? And the result that we get is this mess of the LRT system. We saw how people did it and we still manage to screw it up big time. I have travelled to many countries and used their subways and MRTs but so far, we are the WORST.
Before you talk about raising car park fees, make sure there is an alternative for people to travel.
1. Have ample parking lots at the MRT/LRT stations. Use multi level car parks if space is limited.
2. Have a shuttle service to the LRT stations that constantly runs. Not 2 buses that arrive at the same time after half an hour wait. (go to the end stations and observe the drivers near the mamak shop and see when they leave and you know what i mean)
3. The stations should be linked together to minimise exit and entry into stations or covered walkways provided between stations.
4.sufficient sitting space / coach provided so that everyone at the station can get into the monorail.
The only person who will benefit from increased parking is the parking operator (another crony?) and nobody else.
I like the people who see the big picture…I live in japan now…wonderful transport
A very sensible post from ‘rakyat’ for the Rakyat! (pardon the pun) hehehe.
I also agree that ‘Khairiah Mohd Talha’ was thinking with her kneecaps, making statements worthy of a troll! :)
Regardless which side of the political divide you’re on, Competence should be a requirement for public office.
Fix the state of the public transportation network first, then we’ll talk abt raising parking fees in the city!
Cheers :)
I like your comment very much. If only we can get rakyat like yourself into the civil service. As long as people need to be politically connected and with the ‘right’ kulitfication for such positions, everything will continue to go to the jamban.
Well not all can be copied. We have our own culture but everything start from top – if the authorities demonstrate good governance then in become leader for change. Never follow blindly it otherwise it become new source of income for one to be a millionaire!
not a problem to me.. i ride a bike.. i car park can park min 5 bikes.
stupid idea i think, if our public transport are like Japan public transport system, yes people will use more public transport. Even right now, RM5 per hour also people feel its too much.
Now another monkey get loose and ranting all the frustration to low income rakyat just to create traffic free environment for herself. She should just rot in hell for god damn sake.
How is this any different from increasing petrol prices to prevent smuggling? Or guns falling into the sea? Please keep the excuses coming, definitely endless possibilities.
if they implement it, Proton and Perodua bankrupt sooner since they will not be able to sale their car..G will think again??
No they dont charge rm120 in austrlia….more like half of that. Further, i can earn atleast Rm50 an hour here working as a cleaner.
Gov should build prak-and-ride at the housing area for the worker working in KL take a bus..
If aint mistaken there are Park-and-Ride facilities in Putrajaya – how’s the response (coz rarely been there)?
If poor, then there’s an attitude problem with the people.
If good, then this is something that doable in other places.
‘She said that Australia and Singapore charge A$40 (RM120) and S$40 (RM100) per hour, respectively, while in the USA, cities such as Boston and New York also charge US$40 (RM130) per hour.’
Please tell me where on earth you get this figures? In Singapore I parked in Marina Sands for 8 hours it comes out to about 60SGD. Parking in Chicago is about US$50 a day in downtown. As usual brainless people talking nonsense to justify their proposals.
Since when Singapore has such HIGH PARKING RATE, even parking at MBS only cost $6/hr, and it is only around AUD20/hr (Highest rate) back in Australia.
Ridiculous numeration there
Reporting from Melbourne, 40 AUD per hour parking doesn’t exist in Australia.
Went to Melbourne, 8 hours for 70 AUD, not bullsh*t like 40AUD/Hour
After imposing RM40 per hour parking charges in CBD (Central Business District), the following need to be added to ensure 100% effectiveness,
1. Daily CBD levy – RM 50.00 per entry, maximum 5 hours period.
2. Maximum 3 hours per parking bay, even at RM40.00 per hour.
3. Minimum Fine – $1,000.00 per offence.
4. Abolish all fuel subsidies irrespective of category, after all those subsided NEVER pass the savings to the consumers — eg outstation buses, lorries, fishermen, taxis, school buses etc.
5. Increase car prices further so that marginal income people are excluded.
6. FREE FEEDER BUS SERVICES INSIDE THE CBD FROM MRT / LRT / MONORAIL / KVMRT.
RM40 per hour?
Our ministers and politicians will also need to pay RM40 per hour from THEIR OWN POCKET
Why increase the parking rate? Got cronies in parking business? You increase the parking rate, people will still drive the car… they just don’t park at proper car park. Park at the side of the road, or have somebody waiting in the car at the side of the road. Road will still get congested with cars.
There are other better options to reduce traffic congestion in city center. Charges incurred for cars that enter the city center zone for example, like they did in Singapore.
With regards to public transportation, especially rail line services… we need better parking facilities around major stations.
While I support the idea of reducing the congestion, they should also consider there are many who live at “greater” klang valley who commute to work everyday to the city centre, like me. Whilst public transport within klang valley is improving, we can’t say the same to places like Seremban, where many work in KL. So if this happens, these people may just decide to stay in KL instead. Really something that needs in-depth study.
Go F yourself!!
When wanna compare parking rate, can follow 1st world country la?!!! Anything related to korek our pocket can always compare with developed countries, RIGHT?!!
If complain public transport like sh*t, need to improve, then tell us jangan persoal, tak suka keluar, syukurlah we r better than Zimbabwe!! Haram jadah punya betina songlap knnccb!!
B*tch, cut your travel allowance, go ride only public transport then come back with your foul stinking mouth and tell us if RM40/hr is a good idea!!
Bodoh piang punya betina tak guna tak sedar diri. Wanna lower CO2 konon, then give us Euro 6! Then we can use modern diesel that’s much more frugal than Suprima. Any talk about going green is invalid so long they reluctant to upgrade our fuel quality.
Look at OTHER measures that those cities manages the traffic congestion.. Then, equipped KL with extensive and comprehensive public transportation first, ABUNDANT SAFE parking at commuter/LRT/MRT stations and whatever improvement you can introduce… then LASTLY you can talk about increasing the parking rate…
All of these aren’t really comprehensive in reducing traffic and emissions in the city. To be comprehensive a proper solution needs to have:
1. alternative modes of transportation:
SG, NYC, London etc. all have pretty comprehensive train systems, but also enough parking at the major train stations. Have you tried parking at the Kelana Jaya LRT recently?
2. encouragement
Singapore for example will let you ride the MRT for reduced fare or even free if you leave early enough eg. before 7am. Can KL with privately owned and profit minded bus/LRT companies (as opposed to govt owned Singapore MRT or NYC subway) actually do this?
Some companies in Malaysia have tried things eg. flexible working hours but they’re still a minority.
3. discouragement/penalties
High parking rates, congestion tax in London, ERP in Singapore etc. The money collected is used to cover #1 and #2. However again the question remains, with privately owned profit minded bus/LRT and now parking companies in Malaysia, can there ever be a comprehensive solution?
I think depending on how we look at it, some can easily say public transport sucks, and stucking in the jam also sucks, while they are also part of the jam, and some of them can say public transport sucks when they didn’t even try it. Some just don’t take the initiative to carpool when it’s possible. It’s good that parking raise the price, when the public transportation is ready there. There must be a Push and Pull motivation factor to make this happen. At this stage, i hope that GoKL bus can maintain it’s servicing time, but i do agree Prasarana has a lot to do with RapidKL buses. and SPAD also in catching taxis who aren’t using meter. It’s a complex issue to talk about as it involves different level of governments and policies and individuals in the government for clash of interest.
Face it that KL is facing massive urban migration from the other parts of Malaysia. I am not totally well versed with GTP ETP yet but the idea of National Physical Plan doesn’t seem to be there when you have almost everything centralized in the Greater KL/Klang Valley plan, this traffic congestion idea should have seen to come. We have massive brain drain inside the country to KL, that’s another whole issue before you talk about brain drain to other countries.
Without good public transportation she tried to discourage us from driving? I don’t think she is into drug but whatever she suggested here were sign of drug abuse.
I propose that all Putrajaya building & offices to start charging parking rates. Encourage those who work in Putrajaya to take public transport. Currently, all cars over there parking bersepah.
I dunno where she pull those numbers from but lets compare:-
for Australia, lets take the 2 most expensive cities, Melbourne and Sydney. I’ve lived in Melbourne and I know parking in Melbourne CBD won’t cost AUD40 per hour. Just google “parking in Melbourne CBD” and you can find parking along Bourke St, which is pretty much the middle of the CBD, for AUD19 per hour. If you have early bird parking (i.e. enter before 9.30am and leave after 3pm, the same place is only AUD19 flat. Park a few streets out, and early bird can be as low as AUD10 flat. Sydney is almost the same, a few dollars more. But no where close to the AUD40 per hour. Lets not forget the abundance of cheap and efficient public transport network there (busses, trams, trains).
Singapore? Check this out:-
http://www.onemotoring.com.sg/publish/onemotoring/en/on_the_roads/parking/parking_rates/parking_rates.html?strCategory=1&TextBlock=Orchard%20Area%20Rates
Where got SGD40 per hour? Let’s not even talk about their MRT network.
Dont compare NYC with KL till you have subways all over the city. Plus they have efficient interstate trains that reaches out to the suburbs outside of Manhattan island and NY burroughs.
Please la, want to compare also be a bit smart la. These days, got internet. Ppl can tell if you are bullsh***ing…..
Haha, apparently she’s not heard of “Fact-Chk”!
Cheers :)
such no brain talk, RM40/hr only will make the parking land owner getting richer and richer and people become poorer and poorer. if the public transport is as advanced as SG/HK, i would use it as well but it is not in MY. do you think i like to stuck in jam for few hours everyday to go to work and back to home. other countries public transport is superb advanced, but she never think to mimic from them, only know to follow other to increase parking rate. such useless women and no brain talk. if you encourage ppl to use public transport pls make sure it is possible first. in MY, many places public transport are sucked and you can go no way without ur own transport!!!
I pay $5 to $18 per day here in Australia to park in the city per day…Minimum Wage $18…PUBLIC TRANSPORT IS NOT THE BEST BUT IT IS WAY BETTER THAN THE ONES IN MALAYSIA…RM40 per hour? HO LEE SHEEET
don’t play play
she’s traveled the world so she knows what she’s talking about
http://25th-anniversary.fotopages.com/
Oh…my eye…wtf im sitting eating a roti canai !.!
At RM40/hr for 8 hrs/ day for 20days/month – the would-be parking cost is RM6,400. People will hire a driver at 1/4 that cost. THEN, all the drivers will be parking along the road side. Did the authorities/ planners anticipate this? Duh…
Only a cuckoo can come up with such a suggestion. Many of the people go to KL to work and not for fun. Improve the public transport first, lah.
Owh…if fuel price, compare to Zimbabwe. Parking fee compare to Singapore/Australia?
but there is a need for bigger parking space in LRT / MRT station… as most of the parking are full by 9am… so people have no choice but ended up driving. Our MRT / LRT stations are not within walking distance from residence like in Spore.
Full by 9am? Kelana Jaya LRT is full before 8am. You will be very lucky to even get a spot at 8am.
Even if the MRT/LRT/Monorail are on par with other cities, one must also compare the feeder bus services and inter-connectivity. Even our LRTs are not conveniently interconnected between Star LRT and Putra LRT as one has to get out of the station of one line to board another line! Monorail is even worst as you have to get out into the open, brave the traffic to board the LRT at Sentral. Feeder buses are not up to par with the technology we have put into our rail system. Drivers don’t follow schedule and even the ROUTE! Plus, please do not convert the city parking charges of other cities into MYR and say its reasonable. Its incomprehensible….. Perhaps we should also compare the intelligence of our ministers here with those in Singaproe, Australia… etc…..
can we get better taxi. i mean with fair fare.
Yes good idea to charge RM40 surcharge so that our roads will not clog up with Myvi, Viva & Saga as owners of such cars definitely cannot afford to pay. People with Merc and BMW with driver will find their lives easier and have the road to themselves just like it should be…
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I was a regular user of public transport (mostly taxi), but today I am forced to drive.
My main concern is crime. How can our government and JPJ expect people like young adults, women, the elderly and the disabled to use public transport ? These people are the most vulnerable to crime.
Why is the PDRM and JPJ so enthusiastic about collecting AES saman when the real root of the problem has nothing to do with the average rakyat, who only drive to and fro for work purposes ?
Until the JPJ works together with the PDRM in solving the violent crime and other forms of serious crime, I will refrain from using public transport.
Speed doesn’t kill, people with parangs and guns do.
what you’ll expect? dumbo at work!!
Higher parking rate may be a slight deterrent or it could mean cars are still on the city roads more times than they are parked. Carbon emmisions are still high in city centres of S’pore & NewYork. Along with the MRT in improving public transportation… GREENer taxis, busses and trams too must be a priority consideration as a multi modal transportation solution since they operate longer on the roads.
After thinking for awhile, maybe tomorrow this lady comes out and saying:”Sorry, I’m just joking! Peace!!”
If they can provide really efficient public transports, w/out crime and in a timely manner, and with enough parking space for public transport users, then they can allow this.
Otherwise, its a TOTAL BULLSHIT! Dont dare to compare with other countries when the service you provide sucks to the max!
reasons why i prefer to drive is:
1.too many boyans and bangla in metrobus.
2.the bus’s condition was superbly awesome,equipped with fresh air freshener and ogawa massage machine(even when you are standing) .
3. the conductor’s and driver’s attitude are well pleased and berbudi bahasa(should be awarded).
4.the public trans timing is frequent and accurate.
5.its too secured to take the public since there is no pickpocket .
6. the stations are right-in-front my door step.
N theefore any proposal made they should look into few factors compare to cities like New York & Singapore. First is our public transport system able to meet the needs of the road user ? Even with the completion of the MRT & the extension of LRT, there are still a lot area within Klang Valley is not properly covered. There are still alot of people In certain areas can’t benefited with the improved system. Secondly we have to look at our income level as compared to these cities. Thirdly are we feel safe while walking to the public transport station.
rm40 perhour means rm10 going to land owner and rm30 going to government pocket. They just want people’s money only
What do you expect…..rakyat didahulukan….meaning rakyat kena dulu…..
Let impose it, let it be, RM40 per hour, is good proposal, RM8,000.00 per month only, if Rakyat suffer on this, who will be a loser? think for it, for the “intelligence” lady who proposed it, compare our GDP income first before compare to Australia, Singapore and so on, maybe she got a other part time job who can let her spend easily.
So sad malaysian got so many stupid politician. 1 word , STUPID.
Damn these ministers. Everything also wanna follow 1st world country. U can when our country is 1st world standard. Crime is low, high salary, cheap car, good and efficient public transport. Ppl mentality is 1st world. Otherwise, please don’t compare with a 1st world country. The above mentioned countries all are 1st world. Top among the world. Us? nah.. stick bak to normal rate will do. Once u curb our no.1 prob = Crime. Then only talk.
Dont know much about this city planning science. But i do know, that KL city have VERY bad city planning, as evidenced by the VERY BAD traffic jam, the double and sometimes triple parking phenomenom and also the big difference between the kota raya section and the sungai wang section. I think that imposing that law wont help much, it will only be helpful if KL city already have a very good public transport system like in Singapore or Hong Kong. I think right now KL city road infrastructure is already very badly jumbled up like a huge ball of jumbled up strings due to unplanned or poorly planned city developement. So i think right now, if the government can somehow bring up some other city like maybe Seremban, Ipoh, Taiping, Melaka or watever, that would help divert the traffic to those area and would greatly reduce the jam and when that happen, this would give the givernment some opportunity to properly rectify KL city’s roads. Just my opinion :-P what do you guys think ?
Upgrade the public transport first, those countries you compare to have excellent public transport system. Are we on par with them? Also, the VIPs also must use transport, not take advantage of police escorts and make it worse.
Just do it what they are suggested…. Maybe 10 to 20% will use the public transport…. Then upgrade 200% services of the public transport…. Problem still not solve but at least 10-20% will change to the public transport….
She forgot those rate were her “overclaim” parking fees from her trips?
Australia parking per hour is around 2-4 dollars per hour but limited to time period of 0.5-4hours and there isnt one with 40 dollar an hour.
I live in Melbourne
nonsense! A$40 per day is considered rather expensive in Australia. Note, it’s PER DAY, not PER HOUR. These jokers seriously have no brain
for starters, i doubt the b*itch regularly takes the LRT/Komuter/Rapidbus/Metrobus AND/OR pays for parking at work!
so the question is, how did the effing RM 40/hour rate came about? it may be revealed in the link below.
http://25th-anniversary.fotopages.com/ (found from above poster)
so it seems, the b*tch was “inspired” by her international travels which seemed to be “perfect” – walking and cycling together with public transport.
but like some deluded people on holidays, all of the above conditions are always nice – unless the weather permits, you live there or traveling to another location and then a car will become necessary at some point!
so all in all, i think the b*itch is beyond delusional that she hates missing all these “perfect” conditions and coming back home after these trips.
and whaddya know, when she’s home, the b*tch is so pissed off that the “perfect” hourly rate idea practically came out of her knees. taaa-daaa!
I go downtown KL by LRT. I dnt have a driver, I don’t need a second car. And all the money I saved from driving in kl makes me the richest men in Malaysia. I pity you all malaysian but serve you rite for not taking public transport
You bukan kaya sebab sedut duit daripada MAS atau Air Asia ke?
It is successful in other countries because they got excellent public transport system. Their minister do stuffs not talk only.
Gov should just encourage business to allow employee to work from home. give allowance to business who did that.
Absurd ! What they need to do is build more parking complex near LRT/KTM/MRT stations. How do you expect people to use LRT/MRT/KTM if there’s no sufficient parking space. In addition, some people refuse to take buses due to their poor timing.
What I’m seeing now is MRT stations are being build everywhere, however, how are they going to arrive there is another problem. Somehow, they’ll have to drive there (if they don’t use public transport).
Build parking complexes near the stations and people should get into cities by the public transport to reduce congestions.
yea….our country is full of people who like to impose charges to solve problems. Why not just tax us so high until we all starve and drop dead then a lot of other problems will be solved too!…Fark this country run by stupid people. Always comparing with other countries at their convenience.
Improve our public transportation first then we shall consider okay ?? If not, most Malaysians need at least ONE mode of transportation i.e. a car, to get us around. So fikir-fikirkan lah before doing something. Instead of convenience, those improper planning would become a burden.
Aduh… Kenapala kita banyak sangat orang yang “pandai” kerja kat government…..
Another hair brain suggestion from our Government department.
Great, go ahead and charge 40/hr. And watch your City die. Watch all your goods and services rates skyrocket. And if you have a business, good luck in find anyone work in KL City…. you think average business can stomach 6000/mth on parking for each employee, let alone each private individual?
Of course you will ease congestion… when there is no longer anyone working in KL.
The only people that can afford to work in KL are those living in KL, but Condos here are running upwards of 1000/sf. How to afford to live here?
She is akin to suggesting chemotherapy so lethal that it kills the patient along with the tumour. Sure problem solved. No more tumour… but also no patient left alive.
there are 101 ways to ease traffic congestion, and this idiot of a person suggests to implement method #1001 first.
1) improve public transportation
2) more (FREE) parking at MRT/LRT/Monorail/KTM feeder stations
3) fix the screwed up road infrastructure, where all your roads are messed up.
Silly idiot forgot why people all go to work in KL in the first place. Thats because thats where all the work is. Why doesn’t she make herself more useful and suggest developing other parts of the country so there will be more opportunities for people to work instead of cramming themselves into KL.
If this is really put into action, I’d imagine jobs which require frequent travelling from site to site such as sales, engineering etc etc will be hit hardest. The government conveniently forget that not everyone’s job involves sitting in office from 9-5.
Anyway the most obvious reason behind this has definitely nothing to do with saving the world by lowering emissions, and reduce congestion etc etc but more likely to enrich the cronies who monopolized majority of the private parking in KL. Secure Parking, Metro Parking gonna rip everyone’s head off in broad daylight. Oh yeah!!
nobody mention about school at lingkaran syed putra, cause unnecessary traffic jam. Should be relocated elsewhere.
Brader, tell me which school doesn’t cause traffic jam? St John? Convent? Victoria? By your logic, there would be no school in middle of KL just to ease traffic.
Btw, dont just target school la. Might as well you say robohkan the entire MidValley mall because people queueing up to enter also causes congestion on federal highway. In fact, robohkan any building that attracts crowd. Crooked logic at show here. Pfft.
I mentioned that school bcoz it cause a major road aka highway aka main link to jam, hard to figure out altenative route or making u turn is impossible, unlike congestion on minor road. Federal Highway meh..spinal cord of klang valley.
Dude, fact is our road systems are not ready to cater this much vehicles. Doesnt matter whether you move schools/buildings around, you will still get congestion. The amount of cars on the road keep getting more and more. Just see our gov here desperately popping up new highways and still you get congestion
The best way to lessen congestion is to implement a system to scrap cars of certain age, at least it will keep the amount of cars on the road in check, instead of just increasing every year.
But then this cannot be implemented, because it will cause a lot of poor people to go on a rage, and it’s these poor people that UMNO/BN need to please because they need their votes.
RM 40 per hour parking charge in KL? Go ahead.
Those who works in KL will probably be better off quitting their job, rather than have all their income going to parking. More importantly, nobody will want to go for any business in KL. Businesses will die, KL will become a ghost town.
Yes sure, no congestion. No traffic. So go ahead and do it.
If the suggestion provided by the NEP Product/profesor, you better dump it because they never use their brain to find the root cause of the problem.
If this suggestion can solve the problem then he should suggest the following also :-
1) Rise the fuel price to RM 4.00 per liter
2) Block all the road to KL/PJ and turn all road to become pedestrian street.
3) set the car price with a minimum of RM 80,000.00
I am sure the road will be free from jam.
These suggestion is from my 4 years old son, do you think the above proposal can solve the traffic problem?
Stupid damnshit suggestion from government. Don’t compare Malaysian people with Australian and Singaporean. Both countries people income per capita 30x times more than Malaysian…arghh..
Ridiculous shit.
I live in Perth now for expatriate assignment. The CBD area parking rate is at most 5 AUD per hour, for weekdays and some inclusive of Saturday, from 8am to 6pm. I earn 6k AUD here. The CBD is services by various free transit zone busses so it is convenient to travel around..
If I return to Malaysia, I will earn 10k MYR but pay RM40 parking rate? That is ridiculous. If i were to rely on public transport in Malaysia, then I need to live beside LRT station…too much.
Please improve the taxi service and reduce the taxi rate as well
I think our legit meter taxi rates are quite ok.
This is what happen when you put somebody who lacks competency to do their job properly.
Let me see now, WE ALL pay road tax and now she wants to make the city roads only for the riches, VIPs and all those FAT CATS!!!
There are so many ways to reduce congestion such as congestion charges etc during peak hours ONLY but why suggest parking rates as a potential solution, IT IS NOT A CURE TO THE ROOT CAUSE OF THE ACTUAL PROBLEMS!!!
Another thing about the Singapore comparison, I have been to Singapore recently and the parking was never SGD40 per hour, SGD40 per day may be or may be she only went to Universal Studios/Sentosa Island where things are never in touch with reality…. please ‘lah’ only open your mouth when you have a real solution to the actual issue/problem… otherwise best to keep quiet and do your work.
1) we need better public transportation
2) we need better public safety environment
3) other countries have 4 season, we have either rain or hot weather only… Good luck walking to your nearest bus stand and wait for 30 mins there
Even worse, stand surrounded by foreign workers(no discrimination intended here) and wait for 1 hour, and couldnt get into the transport after waiting for so long.
Pffftt… I dont even want to remember those days.
i strongly support the idea, 40ringgit per hour ll solve the problem, let’s trial for one year!
BULLSH*T!!! I’ve been to both Singapore and Australia. In Sydney near Circular Quay, the most expensive rate is merely AUD30 per hour. But those are really high class parking bays. You can easily find cheaper rates of AUD26 per hour. Not to mention roadside parking are sometimes free provided they limit the time period you can park your car there, ranging from 5 minutes to half hour.
Same can be said for Singapore. The most expensive rate are merely SD25 per hour and despite no roadside parking, they have parking bays that usually only costs at most SD2 per hour.
Needless to say this suggestion is another one of those crooked ideas to make car park operators richer, which undoubtedly is partly owned by most of those cronies Barisan MPs.
Please people, don’t believe what the govt tell you blindly. Do some research. Ask people who have been overseas. Even you add more public transports like bussed or cabs, the road will still be overcrowded eventually. Clearly, this is not a long term solution. Best way is to improve our train systems. Build more mass railways that can carry bigger volume of passengers. Adding more busses on the road but not building new ones won’t solve jackshit.
the main contirbution for this problem is the lack of efficiency of public transport including trains and buses.. since our public transport served very limited areas and not efficient, that’s why people prefer to use their own cars despite of traffic jam, toll, increase in fuel prices and high car prices.. and train always delayed and buses will crowded as shit during peak hours added to this people’s attitude to just using own cars.. my suggestion is what can we do for time being is reduce car and fuel price since we have no choice now and at the same time waiting for completion of MRT and LRT extension for another 4 years and then fuel and car price should increase back and maybe raise parking charge up to rm25 instead of rm40 per hour..
This girl must be UiTM graduate,half baked ideas. Talk only can ah. Tongkat mindset.
And you must be from Jinjang Kepong(sarcasm) ? Wow such a racist deduction . We dont need people like you in 1Malaysia environment .
So, instead of using the tax money from the rakyat to improve public transportation, the govt is going to charge the rakyat some more? Terbaekklaa…
The public transportation can clearly be improved. If you suddenly charge the rakyat expensive parking fee, you’re hindering them from using cars, which then they turn to public transport. Is our public transport system capable of handling a huge number of users all of a sudden? I somehow doubt it.
Second, why are there no town planning in place? If you design the development in such a way, there will be less jam. Instead, you approve every super duper mega development, so close to each other, of course jam la. Try to spread out the development, don’t put everything in KL. The nearby state can benefit from some development. Malaysia is not only in KL, you know.
Why so many dumb people in the govt. They should put stricter requirement for someone to be a politician.
Dear Khairiah Mohd Talha, may I ask have you ever been to SIngapore.
No where in Singapore is the parking rate SGD40 an hour not even during the National Day Parade. That was only SGD 26 an hour. Please get your facts right before quoting others. What sort of fools we have as board members
my cousin bungalow in sing is charging sgd40/hr as side income, covered parking for 10 cars on contract basis.
The parking rates in Aussie are very very expensive that a lot of people make it an investment, but the high rate is only in city, which encourage people to drive outside around the suburb but take public transport to the city to avoid congestions. Malaysia’s public transport is still a far cry as compared with Australia. MRT, LRT and KTM stations are not within walking distance from the housing area like those in Aussie. Though it is impossible to cover all the housing area with trains, there are usually buses around, helping people to get from their homes to the nearby train station.
That is the problem why capitalist make money out or thin air. This is the problem of not using EEV and bad township management and state progress diversification. Always learn the bad thing from others and not the good ones. Syabas Malaysia boleh brankrupt juga!
I suggest they go ahead with this RM 40 per hour suggestion. Then wait and see which office or shopping mall dare to do it. Not even KLCC or Pavillion will do it for fear it will drive customers away.
Unless those places want to be super high end where only the really really rich can park at their place.
My office in Jalan Bukit Nanas/Jalan Gereja/Jalan Ampang also if park 1 day max cannot reach RM 40. Outside the open air parking also max RM 20 per day. This is the area where congestion is very bad during peak hours and the parking charge is not as ridiculous as RM 40 per hour yet alone per day.
I’m a youngster and as a college student that commutes around KL for the past 3 years living here, there are a few problems that needs to be addressed.
1) A more complete public transport system. This includes bus routes to housing area.
2) More accessible parking bays by the LRT stations. Currently, the only “decent” station that actually encourages drivers to use the public transport would be Gombak LRT. From the top of my head, Kelana Jaya, Wangsa Maju, Taman Paramount, AsiaJaya all have either too few or no parking spaces for people to park their cars even if they wanted to.
3) A safer community. I live in Setapak area and already a handful of my friends have been robbed. Male/female, day time/night time. It happens SO frequently that my friends would dare walk to the bus stops even.
Malaysians love to complain and complain endlessly while at the same time blaming others . Yes nothing can beat the convenience of driving your own car to work . Get that point . Once you step out of that zone i.e using public transport of course there’s inconvenience . The government does not owe you public-transport -in-front-of-your-house thing . If you are not willing to sacrifice then …well screw you lah . I’ve stopped driving to work for more than 1 year now . i use a motorbike well a maxi-scooter exactly which is like superconvenient . What hot sun ? You mostly travel in the morning ( no blazing hot sun ) and go home in the evening ( no blazing hot sun ) .Rain ? …use a rain coat lah . So stop being a wanker complaining this and that while we are not willing to sacrifice. And dont trust this government to help you . They have not done much for you anyway . Stop hoping . Cheers
Rightly said. People will choose private transport over public transport anyday. The complaints you hear are from the entitlement-mentality group. Have they ever done a honest day’s work in their entire life?
Read my analysis, based on the work of parking economist Donald Shoup. It’s not just about raising prices, although this is undoubtedly necessary. It’s also about which types of parking have their prices raised and how the prices are raised: http://joonian.net/2013/04/27/donald-shoup-on-people-parking-and-cities/
Well as we know that the LRT station that we have don’t stop right at our door step so we still have to drive to the station and park the car there. And the charged like rm 3 per day so the question is would they raise it to rm 40 per day too once the rm 40 per hour is enforce.
One option is to use your bike to travel from your house to the LRT station if you’re too afraid to ride on main roads . Bike parking is super easy . I really don’t understand people who get stuck in traffic for 3-4 hours a day and yet the solution is standing right before your eyes . Life is less stressful now with the bike transport . By the way ride carefully . Cheers
Inb4 msia crime rate so high, bike will get stolen
Inb4 no proper place to park bike, will get stolen.
Wahhh, so many share their living experience in US, UK, Australia, etc.
Even so many are really expert with the transportation used in other country.
Poyo, poyo…
Benz, what’s your problem? People are giving their opinions based on their experience, which they should!
Ko jeles sebab ko tak pernah sampai ke?
what to do, he crony middle income with benz, banglo and rm2,3mil assets mah. Go everywhere got escort, of course never know our pain.
Their typical mentality when hear better thing is “They are developed country, of course better. We must syukur we better than Zimbabwe. Tak suka, keluar.”
What a bullshit of $40SGD/hr parking in SG. Even in US, it is not 40USD/hr. Get the facts rights first. Malaysia gov seriously sucks and blind.
rm40 per hour? I guess i will just illegally park at the road side.. saman by dbkl only rm80 for whole day.. haha
Even if public transport does improve, what about safety? Crime rates are too high especially to women walking home alone after taking public transport.
Try to park at kl sentral.. U will see why people dont use lrt!
Show me which Minister or Royalty that uses public transport. They should lead by example first!
Improve our public transportation dulu la makcik!
AUD40? Wonder where that parking area is. Possible solution is to build a lot of sheltered car parks like those in Melbourne where at every street there is car park areas within the building behind the shop row and even you hardly notice the entrance (camouflage among the shops). The idea is to make cars off the road fast. People use car to get to a point but not to go around and around looking for car park.