NAP 2014’s EEV policy to take into account entire ecosystem, including manufacturing methods

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The Malaysia Automotive Institute (MAI) has revealed more on what to expect from the upcoming revision of the National Automotive Policy (NAP 2014), at the ongoing Seminar Automotif Negara (SAN 2013) being held in the Sunway Convention Centre. The revised NAP is due to be announced in mid-January.

As a recap, NAP 2014 is set to “enhance competitiveness of the Malaysian automotive industry through resolution of structural issues, which will lead towards promoting Malaysia as a regional hub for Energy Efficient Vehicles (EEV) with high technology uptake among industry players for domestic and regional as well as international exports.”

The EEV policy will take into account the energy efficiency of the entire industry ecosystem, including manufacturing methods. It will not be limited to any particular technology (such as hybrid or electric vehicles), but will focus on just the outcome.

This means that vehicles with highly-efficient internal combustion engines will have the potential to be classified as EEVs as well. We learnt through a session with the MAI back in June that a vehicle would be classified as an EEV if it meets or performs better than a set fuel consumption figure for its kerb weight, regardless of its engine size, but there has been no mention of this since.

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Additionally, the previous MAI session revealed that manufacturing licenses and incentives would be given for EEV production and investment in a bid to encourage local assembly of such vehicles.

On a larger scale, NAP 2014 aims to be a stepping stone to establish Malaysia as the ASEAN EEV hub by 2020, when MAI projects the country’s Total Industry Volume (TIV) to hit one million units (representing a six percent year-on-year jump). On top of that, 87,500 job opportunities are expected to be created from this growth.

Some of the issues and challenges faced include a relatively small scale and volume (and therefore a higher unit cost), a market that’s not export-driven, a lack of cutting-edge technology, know-how and coordination, plus a heavy CBU focus that does not promote localisation of vehicle components.

Still, MAI CEO Madani Sahari believes Malaysia’s EEV policy will be “better” than Indonesia’s Low-Cost Green Car (LCGC) and Thailand’s Eco Car programmes. “We are covering the whole value chain and the entire ecosystem,” he said. “It doesn’t matter what technologies are being used; what matters is the outcome.” Until January then, when the details emerge and the permutations are explained.

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Comments

  • BMW Fanboi on Dec 20, 2013 at 4:46 pm

    tl;dr
    So how does this affect my Toyota Vios price?

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    • Raja Lawak on Dec 20, 2013 at 6:00 pm

      Another excuse to extend protection to Proton…this time hide it as EEV policy

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      • what part want to protect p1?

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        • Blue-traveler on Dec 20, 2013 at 11:15 pm

          True, it will now state that proton engine is the most/ or top 5 most fuel efficient in the market, because it’s campro man. Then pay some industries to generate some figures to cover it. (Using the most ideal condition)

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          • Does it easier that u all just say “i hate this gov n will not support wat ever they do” than write comment long

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          • Babus Speaking! on Dec 24, 2013 at 11:41 am

            wow, what English. Where did you study bro? No wonder Malaysian education standards are going down hill.

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        • Where is the 30% reduction Najib Promised? on Dec 21, 2013 at 10:37 am

          Where is Najib’s promise of 30% reduction in car prices over a period of 5 years? Najib promised before the election that if we voted for him and BN, he would ensure that he would match PKR’s offer to reduce car prices. Najib himself quoted saying that the BN government would reduce car prices by up to 30% gradually over 5 years and we should trust BN. Infact he said BN always keeps to their word. 6 months have passed and nothing has been done.

          Infact companies like Toyota and VW have increased their prices. Does not matter now whether a car is EEV, CKD or CBU. What matters now is where is Najib’s promise?

          Madani should be sacked for not enforcing his bosses promise. Infact, all this EEV nonsense is to divert attention. Madani, don’t just wait for your Datulship, make sure your boss Najib keeps to his word to every single rakyat he promised.

          Madani also keeps so quiet about the Crony AP problem. Car prices are expensive solely because of the free APs given to just 10 or 20 cronies to get richer and richer. Genuine companies like Honda, Hyundai and Mercedes want extra APs also they cannot get. If they get more AP’s, because of economies of scale, the car brands themselves can also reduce their prices. But this is not the case. 90% of all APs are given free to about 20 individuals in Malaysia. And each AP is worth more than RM50,000 in paper value. Each crony gets up to thousands of free AP. Durian runtuh. Free Money. RM50,000 is the paper value. Actually each AP is worth few hundred thousand ringgit if the AP holder brings the car down and sells it with profit.

          This, Madani is scared and keeps silent. The whole AP system was introduced to encourage Bumiputera participation in the car industry. But sadly, 90% of all AP holders sell their AP to the Chinaman outright. So, the whole purpose and spirit of the AP system has gone down the drain. So, what is really the purpose of the AP system? Yes, it is to enrich the 20 cronies. They earn billions per year each, just doing nothing but shaking legs. All at the expense of 30 million Malaysians who suffer to pay high car prices. So, which is more important Madani? These 20 cronies or 30 milion Malaysians who work hard for their money?

          Somemore to make matters worse, most AP holders cheat the public in Malaysia. They buy very high mileage cars from car rental companies in the UK. These cars have clocked about 200,000 miles and are worn out to the max. But these cars still 2011 or 2012 models. Unlike Malaysia, in the UK, the car price is determined by the mileage. So, a 2012 Mercedes E250 with 100,000 miles on it is far far far cheaper than a 2009 Mercedes E250 with 20,000 miles on it.

          So our AP cronies are clever, they buy 2012 cars with super high mileage on it and when it comnes to Malaysia, they clock it down to 16,000 KM. Who loses? It is the buyer. The buyer buys a car than has virtuallly every part in the car worn out but thinking it is a 2012 model with 16,000 KM on it, he is very happy and excited to buy it. But he does not know, that he will be paying tens of thousands more in replacing the parts that are worn out because his car ha actually clocked 200,000 miles.

          Madani and MAI know about things like this. the NAP should address problems such as this. Because things like this cheat and make the rakyat suffer.

          But MAI chose to close a blind eye. They rather talk about EEV than the real issues that make the rakyat suffer.

          So, MAI, the 2 main issues are

          1) Where is Najibs promise of 30% reduction in car prices?

          2) What is MAI doing about the dirty practices of the AP crooks in the country?

          Sort the real problems int he country, then only talk about EEV.

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          • Manufacturing NOT Manaufacturing on Dec 21, 2013 at 11:37 am

            What ecosystem bullshit is this? Can introduce all the EEV incentives but ALL our lorries, busses and trains emit thick black smoke ALL the time. That, the MAI got no solution? Or are you all scared because all the lorries and busses are owned by GLCs and Construction companies indirectly owned by Ministers and Tan Sri and Datuk Datuk?

            Go to KL alone, you will see the Metrobus emitting thick black smoke the whole day. Just one bus alone will emit so much damage that even 1000 EEV vehicles cannot undo.

            The MAI and NAP don’t know the meaning of chicken and egg. Introduce clean Euro 4 diesel first, then, come out with EEV incentives.

            The MAI must first be brave enough to introduce clean diesel and put strict laws for busses and lorries like in the UK where every year they must adhere to MOT so that emission is controlled.

            Don’t have a Puspakom. Puspakom is corrupted to the core. Everything in Puspakom can be bought. Set up a regulatory body like the UK MOT to monitor each and every bus and lorry in the country. The busses and lorries are the main environment cause of damage in Malaysia.

            But nobody dare to touch the busses and lorries. Just look at the Metrobusses in KL, for years they emit thick smoke, even the bus smoke the traffic police a the traffic light also, he keeps quiet. Nobody dare kacau the big guns in Malaysia. All belong to the cucu, cicit, kakak ipar, kakap saudara, abang saudara of some Menteri.

            So, this EEv is like a small boy, who can’t even piss straight in the toilet bowl but he wants to have sex. Chicken and egg story. This is how our tax payers money are spent. Spent for organisations like MAI to fly business class all over the world at our expense to get knowledge that is totally irrelevant at all. Even a 6 year old boy in Standard 1 can tell MAI that EEV is useless when the busses and lorries emit thick smoke. But MAI will send their emplyees all over the world to gain Enrironmental knwoledge and come out with slide shows with Spelling mistakes. Hello, its manufacturing not MANAUFACTURING.

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          • No news on Car Prices? on Dec 21, 2013 at 11:55 am

            MAI got news on car prices kah? You mean the 2014 NAP going to be like the last NAP with no news on car prices? and going to goreng on EEV?

            Malaysians are paying overpriced cars for years yet our pay remains so low. Car prices have not really gone up the past 20 years as we can see car prices in the US are really cheap. Infact, car prices have gone down the past 30 years due to intense competition and advancement in technology.

            These are US car prices with US duty and import tax paid, which are just like Malaysian car prices with duty and tax also paid, but here, you will see, they are much lower and less exorbitant than in Malaysia. Somemore they are higher specced with all the safety equipment as basic!. VSC and 6 airbags are pretty normal in cars like the Toyota Corolla (here Altis) and Honda Civic.

            Bear in mind all cars are CBU (complete built up) Japan, CBU South Korea or CBU Germany.

            The following cars we get here are CKD (complete knocked down) cars with more than 50% Malaysian content and “supposedly” are cheaper due to their being CKD and supporting Malaysian manufacturers.

            I cannot understand, we support our own Malaysian manufacturers and beli barang buatan (buy local) Malaysia too, and yet the prices can be higher than barang buatan (made in) Japan or German, which is usually higher in quality.

            And yet, to make matters worse, US people’s GDP per capita is higher than Malaysia’s and the average American earns five times more than the average Malaysian.

            Mainstream car prices

            Honda Accord 2.4
            US$21,480 (RM64,440) RM175,000

            Honda CRV 2.4 US$22,495 (RM67,485) RM185,000

            Honda Civic US$15,955 (RM47,865) RM115,000

            Toyota Altis US$16,130 (RM48,390) RM112,000

            Toyota Camry 2.5 US$22,055 (RM66,165) RM180,000

            Kia Sorento US$23,150 (RM69,450) RM160,000

            Hyundai Tucson
            US$19,245 (RM57,735) RM140,000

            Hyundai Sonata
            US$20,895 (RM62,685) RM150,000

            Hyundai Elantra 1.8
            US$16,695 (RM50,085) RM118,000

            Luxury car prices

            BMW 328i
            US$36,500 (RM109,500) RM300,000

            BMW 528i
            US$46,900 (RM149,000) RM420,000

            BMW 535i
            US$52,500 (RM157,000) RM600,000

            BMW X5
            US$47,500 (RM142,500) RM580,000

            Mercedes E350
            US$51,000 (RM153,000) RM400,000 (In M’sia for only CKD E250)

            Jaguar XF
            US$53,000 (RM159,000) RM500,000

            Jaguar XJ
            US$73,700 (RM221,000) RM1,000,000

            Porsche Cayenne
            US$48,850 (RM146,000) RM570,000

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          • Kimchi Salesman on Dec 21, 2013 at 4:39 pm

            Kimchi salesman detected…..

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          • First yr still not ending..y complaint now? 5 yrs later if not reduce price can complaint la..5-6% per yr drop is better…then suddenly reduce 30% price..sam loo will angry coz RV will drop so much in 1 yr…i don rite long comment

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          • U forget to mention cost of living there cost 5 times campare to boleh

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          • The price like that just not onli in bolehland but whole ASEAN minus brunei….just u find civic price usd15k in thai if u can

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          • Even in brunei the cheapest on the road civic cost u B$33k..

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          • As far as i know onli Rapid bus is own by GLC..most other bus city companies own by c****** tycoon..same oso big2 construction companies mostly control by c****** tycoon…who is minister own n control construction company?

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          • Stop Racism Please! on Dec 24, 2013 at 11:23 am

            KZM, please stop your racism. All your comments in other post always bring race into the issue. This is a car forum. There is nothing to do with race. If you are pro BN, there is nothing to do with race. Every post you like to put the “c……tycoon” in it. Please stop being racist. It shows the kind of mentality BN propogates

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          • Stop Racism Please! on Dec 24, 2013 at 11:27 am

            Oh, btw, cost of living is not 5 times than boleh kzm. It is cheaper than boleh. You btw forgot to mention people in other countries earn 5 times more than boleh! So, they earn 5 times more than boleh but their car is 3x cheaper than boleh. How? Btw, Honda Civic in Thailand in RM80k. Malaysia 118k. Beza banyak!

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        • Babus Speaking! on Dec 24, 2013 at 11:40 am

          wow, what English. Where did you study bro? No wonder Malaysian education standards are going down hill.

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          • nas1098 on Jan 20, 2014 at 4:46 pm

            I wonder why so many Red Bean Army in Paultan.. even kereta pun you nak politik..

            #Stop Racism Please!: It a fact in malaysia ; Malay and India is the lowest perkapita against chinese therefore please accept the reality the goverment policy either BN or PR will do positive discriminate to balance this inbalance economy. Therefore for the rich and more prosper chinese please help to correct this inbalance , the balance the society the better the nation and lead to cheaper car

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    • Chris on Dec 20, 2013 at 6:38 pm

      RV drop to 0 and Sam Loo will start selling char kuey teow, claiming no need put in fridge also it will stay tasty for 3 weeks.

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  • abdullah on Dec 20, 2013 at 4:53 pm

    Sandiwara betul

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    • Obama on Dec 20, 2013 at 5:27 pm

      We can’t even compete with other region in our own national cars, and still driving expensive low quality cars. So setting target as ASEAN EEV hub will be like setting a space hub and compete with NASA.

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    • Klentong on Dec 21, 2013 at 1:19 pm

      Kuat klentong betul, cakap macam-macam, NAP, EEV..
      tapi abok pun tadak. Harga cukai pun tak turun.

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  • projection of 1 million cars by 2020?? meaning to say there will be 1 million cars on the road..and i am pretty sure 70% of it is in Klang Valley.. brace yourself for a lovely traffic come 2020..

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    • Sir Wan on Dec 20, 2013 at 5:57 pm

      It’s not 1 million cars in the road… It is new 1 million car on the road… more than 500k of new car registered every year…

      I can’t imagine what happening later on…

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    • No u guys wrong…it mean 1 million car sales in 2020..currently 600k..followed by 700k(2017), 800k(2018) and 900k(2019)….1 million in 2020..around 13-14 million car on the road

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    • Low Budget on Dec 21, 2013 at 1:20 pm

      They probably meant 500K units for Boleh Land consumtion and another 500K for export to South Asia.

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  • Aeuie2010 on Dec 20, 2013 at 4:54 pm

    All this shit is no use if we are stucked with euro 2 fuel

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    • The first picture says it all. 1 fat lazy bum, 2 fools on the phone and 1 blanks face guy. Good luck with that. LOL.

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      • sick&tired on Dec 20, 2013 at 10:48 pm

        spot on mate! the guy in the middle is busy using his mobile phone and who can blame him! The first guy is probably already thinking about lunch!

        Why would any manufacturer invest in Malaysia? Our automotive policies is a joke, flip flop all the time which in turn causes a lot of uncertainties. This whole EV thing is just to make the cronies rich.

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        • disgusted on Dec 21, 2013 at 4:31 pm

          Reading through the slides was a huge waste of time, what rubbish, that first slide said it all, crony first, people later (read between the lines). Not a single mention regarding the AP, fuel(euro 4) and prices.

          Should have just jacked a** and become a crony with U**O instead. Fat a$$ and crew there probably thinking of all the kick-backs they’re gonna get later.

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    • Anti CO2 on Dec 20, 2013 at 6:32 pm

      Our G’s plan: EEV hub with Euro2 fuel

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  • old dog on Dec 20, 2013 at 5:03 pm

    So in the old days they cant even do the NORMAL car without squeezing of the rakyat, and what make you think this EEV or whatever crab will make it work?
    All manufacturer already setup else where, and what left in this agenda is nothing about is the Cronies to continue squeeze the rakyat. In the slides, Consumer interest my ass…the one line on top of it says it all about the cronies.
    And there is never a slide to have a strategy to challenge the world market..

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  • kadajawi on Dec 20, 2013 at 5:05 pm

    Has to be produced/assembled locally? Say goodbye to a 6 airbag + ESP Prius C and Prius in that case, and say hello to the 2 airbag and no ESP Prius C and Prius.

    Also they really need to get up diesel quality if they want EEV in the country.

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    • lol…same happen to thai some have 0/1 airbag..some no power window..some no radio…most don have esc..all don have tc

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      • Ms Lovely on Dec 20, 2013 at 11:16 pm

        if u drive fast, u need ESC aka Stability Control – For hadling.

        if u drive steady @ speed limit.
        reduce speed @ cornering instead of driving at car limitation.
        U may not need ESC aka Stability Control – For hadling.

        Traction Control is great.
        Good for emergency over slippery area such as water ponding area/oil spilled.

        even a slow driver need Traction Control.
        but, slow driver dont need ESC aka Stability Control for Handling.

        So far only Toyota PRius C and Prius
        RM90k and RM140k got Traction Control.

        Big Bonus = 7 airbags and (Stability control for Mad driver.)

        Sadly Preve/Suprima/Cerato/Elantra/Forte
        dont have traction control.

        But ESC is important.
        – alot people driving @ car limit especially at cornering…
        always seen during Rush Hour in the morning going to work.
        this is so dangerous.

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        • walauweh on Dec 21, 2013 at 12:44 am

          ms lovely, dunno about cerato n elantra, but preve n suprima equip with traction control. u can read in full brochure. or u can call bosch if u dont believe. prtn tune esp manufactured by bosch consists of esp,traction control and vehicle dynamic control module using abs,ebd n hba component.

          thats why when proton bring bosch during power of 1 event,no one bother to read the info board or ask bosch personal. not everything need to mentioned in advertisement. it is too cluttered to add all.
          its like collapsible steering column,its being standard in any proton start from waja. but never advertised. only if u get the special edition brochure in form of booklet, then u learn a lot about car safety development.

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        • You mabuk ah? All cars with ESC always comes with Traction Control lah.

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          • Sam69 on Dec 22, 2013 at 3:19 pm

            U mabuk.
            she just didt know Preve got traction.
            Elantra and Cerato and Forte and Picanto dont have.

            Dont speed dude.
            Care for the family, care for the others. once crashed, there is no 2014 anymore!

            Happy new year is coming.

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        • Preve and Suprima S have traction control, check yourself…

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        • Heng Lee on Dec 21, 2013 at 6:34 am

          Traction control is INCLUDED in ESC. Actually, it’s a stripped off, low cost ESC..

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        • Preve n ss don hav TC? r u sure?..all ss equip with TC from day 1..all preve since this month

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        • Tok Berlagak on Dec 22, 2013 at 1:44 pm

          Proton Preve 1.6L is seriously under powered compared to Honda city.

          even if Honda city 1.5 is fully loaded. power to weight1 ratio still better then 1.6L NA preve 1 driver.
          1600cc NA has less horsepower then 1500Cc honda, yet a more heavy car.
          facepalm.

          – no energy + shit FC.

          If Proton Preve use Honda Engine.
          – Baru boleh beli maa~!

          Great FC + Superb Safety Features + high reliability engine!

          Ini baruk Rakyat kereta..

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  • Malaysia and regional hub are two words that seems to go together In a realm of fantasy and imagination. Currently over seas for the first time and looking back to Malaysia from a more develope country, I just wish Malaysia could just start setting a more solid goal than just saying ‘I want to be the regional hub’. A solid number/announcement of sales figure, technological advancement and emission standard at a more feasible timeline, don’t care how long, it’s much better than a dreamy tag line.
    -personal comment, opinions may differ-

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  • No mention of tax free status of hybrid cars? Hohoho, merry Xmas guys.

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  • Green on Dec 20, 2013 at 5:10 pm

    Hopefully this would triumph Thailand and Indonesia and allow Malaysia become No1 choice for Foreign Company manufacture car in Malaysia.

    Benefit:
    1. Boost Malaysia Economy towards Modern Country.
    2. Malaysia can get cheaper foreign car too.
    3. Proton for survival also can benefit, may share the same vendor with the foreigner company. E.g. Honda local vendor.
    With Quality Improve yet Cost is Reduced.

    Make Malaysia a National Auto Industry rather then just producing National Car.

    Hope the EEV tax exemption is great for foreigner to invest in Malaysia. So far EEV Policy seems very well established compared to neighbour country.

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    • GrenPa on Dec 20, 2013 at 10:11 pm

      Green is right.

      Proton already use Mitsubishi parts.
      Starting Assembling Inspira, aka lancer.

      ady sharing many parts with Lancer.. but Lancer is CBU.

      but Honda Accord CKD, and proton Accord(later new D-segment) can share part with Accord.

      Mass Production = lower cost.
      Sharing = Saving Cost.

      Ultimately, Foreign cars and Local cars can benefit.

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  • Guan Yin Ma on Dec 20, 2013 at 5:36 pm

    Greed say greed la. What create Msia as a EEV hub, what create 87500 jobs… If the ckd hybrid car come out still low build quality , whats the point ? Want to learn japanese style worker mindset, you need to 1st change your own mindset. Mahatir introduce ” belajar dari timur ” since 1985 , and almost 20 yrs later , he failed , cried and retired as a PM.

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    • Sparcov on Dec 20, 2013 at 5:55 pm

      We have to admit, with this kind of programme, it will really create job for the local people.

      For instance, is a spin off effects.

      Proton factory build car <– support by local vendors <– supported by local factory <– supported by local workers petrochemical industries –> plastics? –> and so on.

      The effect is huge

      I strongly agree on government programme to localized.

      But I hope the incentives will not be misuse to certain group of people.

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      • Low Budget on Dec 21, 2013 at 1:29 pm

        Unfortunately your last paragraph says it all, that is why we have such mediocre quality local cars.

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  • MAI, please enlighten us, what is ‘Manaufacturing’ you speak of?

    No time to spell check because too busy planning for NAP 2014?

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  • start-a-fight on Dec 20, 2013 at 5:46 pm

    MANAUFACTURING SECTOR <— yups this will surely boost our nation to be developed nation by 2020 as no where in the world having this sector.

    the one who prepare the slide should be send off to live on mars

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  • Sueit on Dec 20, 2013 at 6:01 pm

    Fascinating Malaysia

    1. Flooding yearly during monsoon season.
    2. Foreign security officer. Can’t speak Malay or even english.
    3. No electric train connecting all states in peninsular malaysia, as well in Sabah and Sarawak.
    4. Too many foreigner with fake IC.
    5. Foreign students who is actually not behave lika a student
    6. Energy Efficient Jet.

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    • 1. This act of GOD..u wanna challenge? If thor god of thunder or zeus king of god no problem
      2. Nobody want to work as security guard..ps: some bolehland people cannot speak or write m****.
      3. The project is on-going..currently ipoh- padang besar double track.
      4. Boleh people like to lose IC. Want to denda complaint sumore.
      5. Many private collage control by C****** took many unqualify student.
      6. EEB – Energy Efficient Bu**.

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  • tokmoh on Dec 20, 2013 at 6:03 pm

    Rubbish. Euro 4 also cannot give, wanna syok sendri we better than Thai and Indon? Tok kok summor la, incompetent clowns who are not making our lives any better.

    Proton will forever be indicator of what’s gonna happen to our country’s auto market, under govt or (not-so-)private like now. No fuel efficient car, no diesel, we can DREAM ON about Euro 4, incentives ala Thai or Indon.

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  • Carlover on Dec 20, 2013 at 6:04 pm

    Just talking only and nothing special. We are far to compete with Thailand. Many big car players already setup factory there with good supply chain. Now you said focus on EEV. Why people just want build EEV factory in Malaysia. What so special? Malaysia got talent? got technology? got good quality vendor? got Business environment such power rate (Thailand lower than Malaysia), toll want to hike, Power want to hike, Petrol also will hike soon. Government please dont talk big and dream big but action/execution is weak.

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    • Thai power already high price…same to petrol their price already too high…but there no min salary of rm900 like bolehland..later rm1100 propose by pr when they overthrow gov in new eve..there below rm500..

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  • tok_kok2 on Dec 20, 2013 at 6:17 pm

    EEV Hub?? The fellas at MIA got nothing better to do than tok kok ah?

    The people wants lower car price! That’s it.

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  • It looks like a plan for Madani himself to stay relevant and maintain as CEO at MAI. P1 is struggling with DRB-Hicom. P2 nationalism is eating up by Japanese counterpartner and there is nothing MAI can do to stop it since they have the bigger slice of pie. Our national auto industry is dying. 3% to $5 contribution to GDP is too little and can be regards as negligible.

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  • bluebird on Dec 20, 2013 at 6:34 pm

    Any mention of gradually reducing car prices up to 20-30%??? Over 20 years perhaps??
    Any mention of what will happen to current APs?? Or will APs continue till perpetuity??

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  • motorhead on Dec 20, 2013 at 6:49 pm

    Puiihh.. Another reason to extend NAP.. Puiihh again..

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  • Heng Lee on Dec 20, 2013 at 7:19 pm

    “It doesn’t matter what technologies are being used; what matters is the outcome.”

    Modern common-rail diesels with ‘diesel particulate filter’ are okay too?

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  • Ah Chong on Dec 20, 2013 at 7:51 pm

    These jokers cant even spell ‘manufacturing’ correctly! Geez!

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  • Guan Yin Ma on Dec 20, 2013 at 8:19 pm

    From the way they seat on the sofa, you know they are dumb. Sit like a boss and relaxing ? Come on. give us some positive image k.

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  • Might as well manufacture a truck.

    Then you can get truckloads of BS!!!

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    • Lol…almost half of 1 million car produce by thai is pick-up truck..so gud la to produce truck

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      • This the correct one…Thailand 2012 (IOCA) Car 945,100 + Commercial Vehicle 1,484,042 = total 2,429,142
        Malaysia 2012 (IOCA) Car 509,621 + CV 59,999 = total 569,620

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        • Nice figure. How long boleh land to take to grow until that volume to a so-called ASEAN hub? How technological capable are those sub component manufacturers in boleh land can support?

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  • Why not do like all other nations, incentives and perks based on CO2 emission. Why go through all this nonsensical roundabout?

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  • Whynot on Dec 20, 2013 at 10:03 pm

    Regardless of what they said. EEV of the future that does not use any drop of fossil fuel is at today disposal or readily available now! Delaying the implementation of EV and Extended EV means we are still polluting the environment. This is the greed of petroleum company that limits tomorrow technology available today. Unless it is implemented and stop further electricity hike it would still be viable. Otherwise it is all nonsenses!

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    • Heng Lee on Dec 21, 2013 at 6:40 am

      Wikipedia: ‘Malaysia currently has 13GW of electrical generation capacity. The generation fuel mix is 62.6% gas, 20.9% coal, 9.5% hydro and 7% from other forms of fuel’

      Electric power from gas and coal is ‘green’?

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      • Green my ass… Just like Hulk

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      • Whynot on Dec 24, 2013 at 2:07 pm

        There will be one day when renewable fuel will replace fossil fuels totally. At least will do less pollution. There is no such thing as total green energy. The sooner we use solar cells, building more hydro and alternative renewable fuels, mother nature can still absorb those pollutants. But if man continue to cut down trees and build more concrete jungle, I guess by then the future will be doomed. We will simply ruins God’s nature creations forever! Learn the mistake that causes the effects. The sooner we repent, the longer this earth will lives!

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  • sick&tired on Dec 20, 2013 at 10:11 pm

    yawnnnnnnnn. same sh!t, different day. if you think car prices are going to drop, you my friend are a f001!

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  • Tax Cut but no price drop??

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  • Organic rankine cycle on Dec 20, 2013 at 11:36 pm

    Positive point of view:
    1.Propose/initiate the EEV vehicles for malaysian consumers.Then less CO2 emission.Najib had already promised to reduce 40% CO2 emission based on Kyoto Protocol (what an ambitious statement) during internatial energy conference.
    2.Like a shortcut proposal to big manufacturers as this is not directly challenge the Big 2 automotive ASEAN nation,Thailand and Indonesia (We already at 3rd spot).Like we admit we already lost to Thailand..
    3.To protect P1/P2 as if the price is reduced to all type of vehicles by 30%, no one will buy P1/P2, even for current market so many ppl can afford 100k+ cars.

    Negative points of view:

    1. So many, haha of course because everything Gov do, all of them will be related to cronies protection.
    2. Current ineffective cars’ RV will be significantly reduced(pity to current owners).
    3. Viva/saga those top 2 cheapest car will remain their price.(They are not EEV cars)
    4. I dont think there is significant price deduction, because most of EEV cars (hybrid/EV) are pricey, after a cut price then in the end the price will remain in the current range….

    Conclusion: I lost trust already, current government is the same and always the same….

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  • car maniac on Dec 21, 2013 at 12:21 am

    Don’t think it will change a bit with the continuation of the AP interest and protectism. Neigbouring countries will continue to be favourable environment to prosper.

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  • Our G is really like “Katak Dalam Tempurung”, never thing of to jump out from the well. always only can see a small sky from the well.

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  • It’s a policy to save Proton. Full stop.

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    • Mr Mohd on Dec 21, 2013 at 8:43 am

      Reducing the auto industry cost. not only foreginer.
      most important = proton.

      Proton gonna able to share part, mass production result in less cost.

      Then Proton can further reduce cost, emphasize on Global Market. Hopefully with Honda engine.

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  • boris on Dec 21, 2013 at 6:49 am

    On paper always looks great, and superb! Some more always the best ever programme compare to our neigbour countries and the story will go on bla bla bla….after a while, still cannot compete? If our Malaysia system NAP is so great, why till to date, our belove P1 yet still not compete globally? Figure on sale of P1 already show the result. Thailand and Indonesia without P1, they also can survive with the automotive industry, even way better that our country!

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    • Thailand and Indonesia both have a much bigger domestic market…

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  • common sensor on Dec 21, 2013 at 8:38 am

    NAP = nap = tidor sekejap … get it? That’s why it is only boom-boom here and there but no guts to announce ..

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  • brian on Dec 21, 2013 at 11:50 am

    yes the manufacturing method must be through proton n perodua manufacturer. d license will only be given if it use proton or perodua logo.

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  • Eev means nothing when the car price is high.

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  • franky1835 on Dec 21, 2013 at 7:59 pm

    Can’t even spell correctly “Manufacturing” , then how u going to make vehicles ?

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  • “Still, MAI CEO Madani Sahari believes Malaysia’s EEV policy will be “better” than Indonesia’s Low-Cost Green Car (LCGC) and Thailand’s Eco Car programmes. “We are covering the whole value chain and the entire ecosystem,” he said. “It doesn’t matter what technologies are being used; what matters is the outcome.” Until January then, when the details emerge and the permutations are explained.”

    TOO LATE IDIOTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  • Raptor on Dec 22, 2013 at 12:52 am

    meanwhile, i absolutely adore that coffee table! any idea where i can get it?

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  • darkermarker on Dec 22, 2013 at 3:03 pm

    I dont even know if they could make a proper EV (bicycle) or not……

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    • Heng Lee on Dec 23, 2013 at 1:44 am

      ‘Malaysia’s Modenas Launches CTric Electric Motorbike’

      http://evworld.com/news.cfm?newsid=25963

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  • darkermarker on Dec 22, 2013 at 3:08 pm

    Snow White has 7 drawfs..

    if MAI has 4 “dwarfs”. Their name would be
    1) Fatty
    2) Noddy
    3) Sleepy
    4) Blanky

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  • ionlaw on Dec 22, 2013 at 8:39 pm

    Trust me, we wouldn’t hear any Good news mid of January 2014.

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  • Eev hub konon, pls la u tink we all small kid so easily cheated by anothrer ” syiok sindili” statememt?? As somebody said, tis EEV stuff is to distract rakyat attention from the real issue of aP and super expensive car prices

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  • Sick_n_Tired on Dec 23, 2013 at 1:11 am

    We’ve heard this crap before…. rewind 28 years ago, the NAP predicted Malaysia will become this region AUTO INDUSTRY leader in 15 years. Now were lagging behind d Thai’s n Indon’s In term of FDI (AUTO INDUSTRY). Can P1 electric vehicle technology compete against VW, BMW, Nissan, Toyota and TESLA??? Enough with this BS! The G should just abolished the NAP n let it be a MARKET DRIVEN industry

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  • Blackgenius007 on Dec 23, 2013 at 9:57 am

    Oh no, I spotted spelling error in the slides…

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  • Sunriver on Dec 23, 2013 at 10:24 am

    The latest NAP is way too late already.

    Here’s the logic, a car manufacturer already spend hundreds of millions to upgrade in Thai or Indo. Would any sane businessman go back to its Board of Directors and try to get approval to uproot that investment and re-invest another hunderds of Millions in Bolehland just because of EEV?

    HELL NO, nak kena Firing squard!!!! My prediction just another fancy presentation and then NOTHING…

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  • JT Tobacco on Dec 24, 2013 at 8:57 am

    In US, University graduate students can get USD5000-8000 monthly wages. Car is USD 15K for Jap saloon. House is start from 150K.
    The ratio of living standard is healthy.
    In boleh land, graduate students start from RM1800-2500 (USD 500-700), Saga cost RM 36000 (USD 11000).
    No ABS, empty specs.. Malaysian really know how to survive

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    • Tubthumping on Jan 07, 2014 at 12:17 pm

      Yet some Malaysians still beating their chests and claiming that everything in Malaysia is great and they are the best. Semua boleh.

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  • prashnan on Jan 07, 2014 at 3:57 pm

    bros,

    sometimes its good to throw things like this…but we are human with good brains…so use it very wisely..you want to how? simple just make simple phone text to Malaysian mobile users….then see the differents, tax will be abolished….

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  • Car enthusiast on Jan 09, 2014 at 9:59 am

    OMONG-OMONG KOSONG – Want to run but don’t know how to walk!

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  • any news on the new / revised NAP?

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  • kobealex on Jan 18, 2014 at 10:50 am

    Hey Paul, any news on the 2014 NAP?

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