https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBsA6PNIgXg?rel=0
By now, regular paultan.org readers would be familiar with everything there is to know about the recently-launched Volkswagen Polo Hatchback 1.6. We’ve comprehensively covered the locally-assembled car’s arrival here, right from its preview at KLIMS13 last year to its official launch last week.
Last weekend, we even featured a full live gallery of the CKD VW Polo, pointing out every visible difference between it and the imported Polo 1.2 TSI. There’s a lot more to this new model than a simple price reduction, we can assure you of that. But, we’re not finished with it just yet.
You’ve read about it, seen some photos, and now here’s our man Jonathan James Tan in our new video walk-around feature, telling it as it is. Have a watch above, and tell us what you think in the comments section. There will be more video content coming your way, so do subscribe to our YouTube channel. Enjoy.
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great job Jonathan, this worth nothing, since cut everything inside and out totally ripe off
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VW should not lower their car quality to compete with Japanese car. In fact, people are willing to pay more for a better quality car which VW should be.
If any of you guys here have read the VW Malaysia facebook page, you will definitely stay away from VW. Service Centres stink in service.
Anyway, this car is a disgrace. It is stripped out so bad, they might as well sell you the shell and sell it as a Kit car. You can then take home the Kit car and assemble it yourself.
Malaysians, don’t you have any shame? People throw dirt also, you go and pick up the dirt. Even dogs also got dignity. You throw an old rotting bone at a dog, he will smell it and just walk away.
Deny all you want, this car is made by DRB, it will use and share same platform as Proton. In other words, you are better off buying a Preve for RM58k. Why buy a car that in disguise is completely a Proton?
Though this is not a direct rebadge but trust me, every single DNA of this car is a Proton.
VW fanboys are getting excited with the VW logo. VW salesman also now losing sales, got lots of free time to lurk in PT to spead lies.
Last year VW sales dropped drastically. This year, it is going to drop even more. Infact this year, if they sell 5000 units also, it will be lottery luck
Why?
1) Everybody knows about the DSG scandals
2) Everybody knows that the CKD is really a Proton in disguise. Trust me DRB quality is toilet quality!
Read Paul Tan’s article on VSC. See how important it is. Any car without VSC can be considered a super duper high risk. But a car that sells nearly RM90k without VSC, that is heights of stupidity of the rakyat of Malaysia to support it.
Go ahead, read about VSC and fear for your life if you don’t have it
http://paultan.org/2012/06/27/esp-stability-control-is-a-must-malaysian-motorists-deserve-better-active-safety-in-their-cars/
According to MAA figures, VW Malaysia has the largest ever drop in sales. Yes, everyone now knows about the DSG scandal. So, this year, for VW to get even 5000 units also, manyak bagus.
Volkswagen sales:
2012 = 13,000 units
2013 = 9,500 units
2014 = below 5000 units.
No other car manufacturer got this kind of drop in sales last year. This means, people of Malaysia are waking up to the hype of VW. They now know, VW is nothing but a problematic car with non stop breakdowns and very bad service centre.
Malaysians are also waking up to the fact that VW only offers 2 years warranty. The additional 3 years is Insurance. Insurance means discretion.
Thrird year your DSG breakdown, insurance tell you podah, be prepared to fork out RM40,000 to repair your DSG.
well my vw ain’t problematic
it’s the best car Ive ever had
agree vw should not reduce their spec
especially on safety features
Well, take away the German country of origin, it gets put into the same pool as a Vios and a City. Similar specs at similar price. No big advantage except the all usual German brand but made in malaysia. lol. Shiok sendiri.
VW salesman spotted! or purely blind fanboy. DUDE. CKD in the first place is meant to lower down imported cars price. plus it provides extra jobs for local to assemble the cars.
But only pure blind fanboys will be fooled with the fact that so many stuffs got stripped out (2 Airbags vs 4 which already available on Polo sedan??) yet the price is advertised AS IF it just being CKD with similar/acceptable specs
After all, POLO is just a POLO, a small compact city car meant for sending kids to school, go pasar etc. NOthing to do with performance!!
I have to disagree with you, the 30k price reduction is due to reduction from a very high CBU price,omission of certain feature and usage of cheaper material,so where is the reduction in tax value being pass on to the customer?
Secondly I have test driven their polo sedan which happen to have 4 airbag,performance of the engine and gearbox of this 1.6 and 6 speed autobox is a loser in comparison with its japanese counterpart…,the refinement is not there,so much for a INDIAN born GERMAN car…….but I do have to say the ride is better than the Japanese.Other than that its as KOSONG as any b segment japanese car on malaysian road.
Jap B segment can consider city. My old IDSI city bought in 2003. 7 speed CVT, FC now is about 480km for Ron 95 city drive from full tank till empty light on. Refill petrol to full is about rm70 to 74.00. Honda service all the time, no major break down but did change radio water tank and service gear once cost rm2k +. The rest according to SC schedules. Average few hundreds per 5k service for pass ten years. Now milleage has reached 220,000km+. Today cheapest city is rm85k+. Can consider this car for those looking for reliable, space and seldom break down model below rm90k. *Iam not Honda sales man. Just a user
Sorry. Typo error: …radiator water tank…
My CVT got change before … It broke at 7 years. Be careful a bit of that
My Jazz 1.4 CVT overhaul at 10 years old, costs like 4k. But now everything ok and can drive like normal.
That’s what the Gov wanted, the direction from Gov.
Cheaper car from the manufacturer, in their own way, since there’s no reduction in excuse duty/tax/AP. Sad fact !
Hi salesman,
While u so gungho about that 30k saving, I still insist wanting that missing VSC/ESP and the other 4 airbags.
Give substance that I need, not fancy things I don’t need.
Thank you very much!
Polo 1.6MPI.
12km/L @ pure city driving style @ 1 driver.
Polo 1.2TSI
15km/L @ pure city driving style @ 1 driver.
First, we are bashing with basis. Secondly, it’s 87,888, not 85,888. Other brand give better discount, even Honda offers me 3k discount for 2014’s car.
I agree with you that CKD alone won’t save 30k, comparing CBU/CKD tax structure, it’s likely saved 10-12k. But we were whining about how much we have to pay for very little.
The whole idea is that it has lost the premium image, and with that price, it doesn’t even stand out among the Japanese or Koreans. It’s still a valid choice, but value for money it is not.
I’ve not driven the car yet, but read what Leong wrote. It doesn’t blow anything out of the water. If you want something that handles better, you have the Fiesta for rm500 less; If you want a practical city car, you have the CKD Jazz for a whoppin 15.5k less.
Arguing about the 7Nm extra torque is as pointless as arguing about the driver side handle. Is it useful? Yes. Do you use it all the time, everyday? No! It’s nice to have but you don’t need it. I’ve travelled to crazy places with less than 60nm of torque, surrounded by pickup trucks and 4x4s, I can say there won’t be a big issue between 146 and 153nm of torque. As for fuel consumption, you are the one who should do your research.
To be fair, considering what Leong said about the ride, plus the cruise control it have, and the lack of VSA/ESP, I suppose what stands out would be that it is an okay B segment car to cruise long distance on a straight highway…
Well I tend to agree on your statement, but for a light weight car like this, with 152 Nm at 3800 rpm, it does feel zippy as compared to other b segment car. Closing the door does bring u difference compared to japs..
What I am trying to say is, value for money is a subjective thing to different individual considering brand image and other factors. But it is still a valid choice for b segment car for this price. Currently selling 85,888.
But most readers here call in a trash that worth nothing. Doesn’t sound rational. Yea some parts are make of hard plastic, but how many b segment cars u can name out that have soft touch dashboard at 85 k? This video some how trigger a lot people to perceive this is a cheapo car without making valid comparison to its targeted rival now.
Underpowered Polo has never got premium image.
Well I tend to agree on your statement, but for a light weight car like this, with 152 Nm at 3800 rpm, it does feel zippy as compared to other b segment car. Closing the door does bring u difference compared to japs..
What I am trying to say is, value for money is a subjective thing to different individual considering brand image and other factors. But it is still a valid choice for b segment car for this price. Currently selling 85,888.
But most readers here call it a trash that worth nothing. Doesn’t sound rational. Yea some parts are make of hard plastic, but how many b segment cars u can name out that have soft touch dashboard at 85 k? This video some how trigger a lot people to perceive this is a cheapo car without making valid comparison to its targeted rival now
that dashboard looks very cheap
I have one word for you.
Ford Fiesta.
Kia Rio
Peugeot 208.
Oops, sorry, that’s 6.
Goes to show what you can get for below 90k.
Lancer CKD aka Inspira saved me 30K!
Specs are almost similar.
there is nothing to shout about for the 6 speed. More ratios doesn’t necessarily better, just like Paultan Driven which claimed the 4 speeder Vios gearbox is much better than the Suprima’s CVT.
With such a small car and size, what do you expect? A fuel guzzler?
Torque? There’s hardly much, but with that small lightweight body it should be zippy enough in city, though highway it will still crawl.
with that price u can get ford fiesta s 1.5l with 6 speed dual clutch transmission,118hp and better torque.have microsoft sync sound system,auto headlamps and wipers.energy regenerating braking system
Well here’s your Volkswagen Saga, enjoy!
RM1xxxx reduction? I’ll take the CBU please. No such option?
Everyone is dumping down to compete with Proton. They don’t have to. I love them as they are. Please stop this madness.
Its funny that many manufecturer are dumbing down to meet proton’s price range(Jazz & Polo CKD) while Proton is moving up to meet them(Suprima S & Super Premium variants). If I am not mistaken, there was someone saying that you still can buy the 1.2 as it is sold alongside thou I doubt that as the 1.2 has been pulled off from their webpage.
..Anyways, the Polo range(sedan and Hatch)are the most dissapointing thing since the Jazz Hybrid CKD as both ,like the Jazz-H, omitted the ESC and also the depletion in airbag counts from their CBU counterparts . The Polo sedan thou at RM 2k more at least gets rear seat vents and 2 more side airbags. As of now, I am leaning towards [-brace yourselfs-] the Vios over these as peronally, the Vios wins on interior ,spec and size….just a little.
Sam Loo would be proud…
Yes add these to the burgeoning list that includes your Jazz Hybrid. Tell me again why CKD makes sense:
1) CX-5 (heat-insulation removed, shoddy build quality)
2) BMW X3 (adaptive damper removed)
3) Mazda6 (who knows what would be removed).
I would really like to know if there’s a CBU->CKD transplant success story where we actually get better value for money…
Typical features vs price argument….. Give features, complain price expensive….. Give competitive pricing, complain low spec…. maybe next time try working for a company which can tell you, “Eh! Lets reduce staff benefits and salary so that we can make our products full of features and at a cheap price!”
In the end, company needs to make profit… so either charge more, or less specs…. or take protection training wheels of proton (which will never happen).
profiteering is a sin,have you heard of greed,its one of the 7 deadly ones too.
Leong, next time company give you bonus or increment, please decline ya. Dont be greedy! Face the fact, working in a capitalist economy is nothing abut profits! If your parents didnt have that thinking, you prob would not have a computer and an internet line to type all this ignorant words….
@Cant Have it all
You are missing the point. I do not want to have it all. I want a choice.
Want cheap knockoff just for the nametag? Here’s your Volkswagen Saga.
You have lots of money burning a whole in your pocket and would like to pay for safety + feature? Here’s your Volkswagen Saga Premium FLX Supreme Plus.
I’m not asking them to magically merged.
Well to be fair, VW 1st option could have been done better as one of the commenter has pointed out, the XC60 sounds like a sweet deal when transplanted. I suspect VW early assembly setup cost has been factored into the price of the CKD Polo.
I think the fact of the matter is not on the subject of the depletion in features but more on What feature is depleted. even at RM20odd-k depleted, I don’t see why they have to take out the airbags and stability control, I don’t see why they now have to make hard plastic and not continue with soft touch(something I prized in Volkswagen). Basially the advantage of locally assemble and the manufecturing of a much simpler drivetrain should cut the cost down signifivantly to allow at least those safety specs and interior quality to be retained. I don’t know, I am no engineer and am basing this off common sense, so do correct me if I am wrong.
On to Leong. I do understand greed is a deadly sin, but the definition of sin means: in excess. greed is define as a sin of excess as one can not STOP wanting more, thats a sin. profit on the other hand, when controled is not. This is a buisness they are running and they have to make something to continue to do buisness. Greed comes when the company is selling at price that lost all reasoning….Thats greed.
sorry typo….
The definition of sin is :wanting in excess
Thats not the definition of sin.
Demmit….Typo AGIAN
The Definition of GREED is wanting in excess
Demmit, I really need to practice typing more.
got ,volvo XC 60. smaller engine, but better specs, more competitive price.
it’s not other car manufacturers fault its the stupid gov we had right now that wants PROTON to stay alive. PROTON is one of their side income MA!!!! others side dont have to mention la…
TQ DRB Hicom for all the above. … Or not
If they had CKD VW beetle 1.6 MP1 for RM88 to RM100k, that would be another story..
Any worth for this car?
low maintance?
space?
fuel consumption?
safety?
reliability?
thumbs down to VW & DRB.
I think there is a little error. The CBU actually has 6 airbags, not 4.
“Combined curtain and side airbags at the front”
http://tinyurl.com/kb5fac3
under standard features>safety>3rd point.
Good video nonetheless. Such a pity they cheapened the Polo too much.
Wrong. That’s four. It’s just a larger front airbag.
What are you? Chinese from mainland China. Can’t read or don’t really understand English? Lets start counting shaw we 1.Driver steering Airbag + 2.Front Passanger Airbag + 3.Driver seat side Airbag + 4.Front Passanger seat side Airbag + 5.Roof side drop down Curtain Airbag (right side) + 6.Roof side drop down Curtain Airbag (left side) = 6 airbags. Have you got 10 fingers to count?
why they changed the engine? such a bad move right??
Good review there Mr. Jonathan. Wish they haven’t cut down too many goodies on the car though, but I think this Polo will be great for those who are looking for a stylish and quick hatchback below a RM100K budget.
Total Waste of Hard Earned Money.Thanks paultan.org for sharing.Thank u Mr.Jonathan James Tan for the review of this garbage car. Nuff Said. Peace:)
Too many equipments stripped and way overpriced!
Might as well get a Kia Rio…feature packed..and a lot more stylish. Not to mention…6 airbags.
Is that Paul Tan in the background?
What the flying starfish is this waste?!??!
Oh my, totally not worth it this Polo hatchback. Thanks for the review video.
this CKD Polo is great for people with budget but wanna show-off at the same time
Can’t show anymore, everyone knows this is shit with a shitty price tag, no longer premium.
nothing to show off… we know its cheap strip down VW..
Can show the cheap rear drum brake.
Can still show off ma. Change to polo gti front grill, change headlamps with drl, paint the roof black, change to detroit sportrim and voila… Polo Gti lookalike. And dont forget to remove the volkswagon and polo emblem at the back. Now the car looks more upmarket. ·
I honestly not sure to thumb you up or down. Yes you can do all that but the original accessories from VW are not cheap in the first place, which may make the Polo TSi look better value in the first place (it was priced 108,888 without the 17″). Then most people WILL know that car you drive is a pretender.
The hearsay that it was coming at 78K probably made everyone disappointed. I would support that even if it has to come with just the normally aspirated 1.4 litre. They my not want to downgrade the VW name….. but VW never spelled luxury in the first place. It’s a People’s Car!!!
Lol “show off”. In a VW? Here in Malaysia? Go die please.
Eventhough this thing and Polo Sedan has 6-speed conventional auto, my mom still thinks “LOL stupid guy buy VW DSG cepat rosak!”
Even my German lecturer is happy enough rolling around here with her Neo R3. She said many Germans themselves are sick with VW because a “People’s car” company should make something affordable like a Kia, Toyota or Proton, not some unreliable premium wannabe crap.
Just curious , how much VW paid you guys for doing this ?
Are you serious?
If I was VW and I paid for this video, I’d want my money back.
This is real journalism. Calling a spade a spade.
Good job Jonathan. Thanks paultan.org team. Keep ’em coming!
u kidding me?
they had highlighted the cheapness of this car and bringing consumer awareness before the public get suck in by VGM..
For those who are familar with the previous Polo definitely know the difference
But for those who dont know, they might thought they are the same and they got the discount of their life with 30k less..
Are you serious? This is what we need to know, continental price with Proton quality. Vios or City is even better than this VW Saga Aeroback.
If VW is thinking of using Malaysia as their next dumping ground for their obsolete hardwares, I seriously think they are making a huge mistake. Just look at the VW Polo Sedan and it’s dismal sales figures. Nowadays, Malaysian are more informed about the automobile industry and it’s latest offerings and will not be con by unscrupulous car producers who wants to make a fast buck. We Malaysians deserve better spec cars and the Koreans have shown that they always offer the fairest deals hence the increase numbers of Korean cars on our roads. And recently a few Japanese brands are trying their best to match these offerings besides Toyota of course. And with these practices, consumers are offered better and safer cars. So if VW still don’t catch on with the times, then say sayonara to your sales!
I give you more “like” …
Striping down specs to reduce pricing doesnt sound sincere to me..
VGM uninterested in providing the best spec for the market..
Malaysians should be educated more abt reading car specs and prioritize safety above anything else, if we really wanna force these companies to come up with better, more appropriate and affordable offerings.
If most Malaysians still stick with their “hey it’s branded, looks good, must be a good car” mentality… these companies will continue to cekik our darah
80k for a saga quality stuffs not worth it.
I laugh when see those comment
First y always go to compare Japanese car is like compare apple n orange ….
And say this are crap car for below 90k what u expected to have …. if crap than get tsi version than say expensive if no money don’t buy just get a proton saga as u all say like new saga
if VW dont compare to TOYOTA,NISSAN,HONDA,HYUNDAI,KIA,RENAULT,CITROEN AND CHEVROLET…you want to compare with who?Are you for real?
Couldn’t agree more…
114k for such a tiny car ppl complain and expensive and does not worth the money.. Dsg failure etc… (when they launch cbu )
Now cut off 30 k, people say so damn not worth it… Either u guys are too rich or don’t know 30k is a massive money u can saved from a car price of 114k.. (close to 30%)
And those people out of 99% are not going to buy either the ckd or cbu.. Just bash for fun…
Cbu better spec, u got money u go ahead..
Ckd 30k cheaper, still value buy. This loses 2 air bags to polo sedan, but pick up and cornering is better and u can feel it. (11.1 sec vs polo sedan 12.3 sec)
If budget not allow for 85k, then stick with your saga but don’t try to make your self happy that diving a saga is the same as polo.. (too huge difference if u could be honest to your self)
vios and city with similar price gives 2 air bags and full of plastic… So why are u guys keep complaining? Anyone?
It’s the phenomenon.
Ppl here complain ALL cars are expensive.
Ultimately blame Government for not reducing tax yet. Hopefully more international company will make good use of EEV. And do hope that its flexible enough to encourage them to build factory here.
create lower price. but, when it’s a Global Hub. dont underestimate the great amount of exportation for Government to earn tax from.
so much more job oppurtunity at the mean while too.
why not same? because of badge?
pls explain
I can’t blame you, but it’s a pity you ve this kind of mind set.. its like your mat salleh brand like a god.. can’t compare & like their products are perfect?.. puiihh.. tahi busuk jg.. well good because this superior feeling also that lead to the death of European & US brands.. no need to mention so many good japs model outside there. But just type car index.. or manufacturer index & see yourself who on top.. & look where your brand position before you open your mouth. Puuih. Btw.. please tell me which Jap brand tapau in this 21st century? All the brand even since WW1, still survive today… Mitsubishi. . Kawasaki.. look all the dead western brand.. you want me to name them? Im too lazy to type.
If l don,t mistake this model is same from china. Once ckd model available they will be not more cbu anymore.
Looks like the price reduction is more to do with reducing equipment/using cheaper materials than to do with being CKD.
I wonder how much a CKD version of the CBU speced car would cost. I think that would be the one ppl actually want (provided the price is right)
50k for VW badge the rest for the car I think.
This is VW Pekan or VW Polo SV?
My office very near with the showroom. . Next time you folks should visit the service center nearby as well… ask about the service yourself. I don’t like talk craps.
Good move VW! everyone complain about DSG and overpriced. Now VW wishing you a Happy Chinese New Year!
Never heard of Apolo tyres before…is it local? I also notice that the rear seats cannot fold completely flat and the extra boot floor to hide valuable things is missing. I was so keen to buy one but it has lost all that premium feel and quality.
Apolo tyres are from India. It is made for badly potholed Indian roads. So, your ride qulaity will be the same as the famous Ambassador car in India. Hardy but shit ride quality. It is even more comfortable to ride a bullock cart with a lembu pulling you than ride any car or tyre from India.
Anyway, DRB got no shame is it? Don’t know how to use barang Buatan Malaysia is it? CKD the car but instead of using our Continental Tyres and support Barang Buatan Malaysia, you all source some cheap tyre from India just to cut cost even more and give Malaysians the wrost of the worst.
Apollo is Indian.
thumbs up good review by jonathan. clean script, clear description and brief. paultan site should have more video walkthrough review like this in future. bloggers/forumers might not realize this, but i trust this will save time for ‘actual’ car shoppers from spending too much time visiting showrooms and getting distracted from SA mentioning specs that are irrelevant.
many auto sites in US have similar walkthrough reviews (tons of them in youtube) but they don’t necessarily reflect the spec we get here in malaysia. seriously, good job and keep it up!
It will be getting more interesting when the Jetta is to be CKD soon. Price drop to 120k, and take a good guess what will be excluded.
Another good job from Paultan’s journalist, this time its Jonathan. This is exactly what potential owners need to know to make a sound decision.
Manufacturers always try to create loopholes to shortchange the buyers, and with more videos like this, we are standing more on equal ground.
I cant believe my eyes after reading the specs, VW Malaysia would lower themselves like japanese, car without full safety package (esc, traction control).
Good review but Jonathan forgot to talk about the boot area and what’s missing there compared to the CBU model.
At RM85k, the only thing going for the Polo hatch CKD is the German engineering that goes into German cars. You need to drive one long-term to appreciate how the Germans build their cars.
For me, the Polo is out of the question because of the Fiesta, the 208, the Rio and, stretching it a bit, the Jazz.
If I wanted something cheaper and more spacious – Jazz.
If I wanted something full spec and cheaper – Rio.
If I wanted a good drive with better specs – Fiesta.
If I wanted better specs and a European brand – 208.
Gotta agree that this “polo” is basically a Proton car with a VW shell.
Utter piece of crap. The new Vios or the New City are so much better!
If u must get a Polo, pls get the 1.2 TSI model.
A VW without TSI is not a VW!!
Its Hard to believe VGM done to this POLO Hatch.
pay 88k and u get this :-
HARD PLASTIC
DRUM BRAKE
NO ARM REST
Is it we still live in 1990s?
seriously? apollo tyres? are they even safe to use? not that im against the brand or anything but living in UK there are many China etc cheap tyre brands which arent exactly the safest….
what do you guys expect for 85k, toyota vios, honda city you guys dont bash also… this vw polo got so many more features compared to other car in this price range.. dont just look at hard plastics look at the feature auto ac, auto cruise, 6 speed gear tiptronic, and many more
I feel Proton suprima much better than Polo hatch 1.6
http://www.proton-edar.com.my/en/Models/Suprima/Model%20Pricing%20and%20Specification%20Page.aspx#PRICING & SPECS
At the end it’s your money… go buy what you want.. go buy for your pride to VW or BMW or whatsoever… me? I enjoy read your misery & see you all fall into financial traps.. & then wreck your family or relationship… so I can take over your gf or woman.. hehe.. money can buy anything… even love. . Hahaha..
So have you bought your GF and wife?
You think they are free eh? Try get them with your saliva.. You think amoi nowadays want ah?
Id say the biggest let down would be the airbags n the esc. If they were to left that in includin the rear disc brakes, id say its still a reasonably gud buy.
As long as Malaysians continue to put brand preference ahead of value & safety & as long as shitboxes such as the Vios remains the best selling non national car, we will never get to enjoy great value from our purchases as carmakers continue to gouge buyers.
They can easily mask their unbridled greed behind taxation issues because we’re dumb enough to think that’s the only thing that’s wrong with the Malaysian car market!
Looking at the changes, you know… it’s pretty disappointing. For that sort of money, if you’re not a brand snob, a Kia Rio would be far better in terms of interior and safety features.
I went to VW Sg Besi to test drive the unit, having high expectation arising from 1 VW purchased 2 years ago. The feeling of cost cutting interior is very obvious that may even put off impulse buyer, not to mention the missing safety technology which pretty common to entry level cars, air bags, VSC etc that surprisingly get an approval from German principal. The engine bay is another let down, with obviously bare parts and wires connections that naked without so much thought to properly fasten or covered. The paint quality and workmanship observed in the engine bay is surprisingly of substandard as compared to external body.
Yesterday the salesperson called asking my decision, and my decision is rationalized by not buying it.
Do not have 7 Speed DSG = Is not always a bad thing.
I can’t agree with this no more! :D