Euro 5 diesel to be sold in selected locations in Johor

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Some groundbreaking news on the diesel front – Euro 5-grade diesel will be available in Malaysia in the coming few weeks. Don’t get too excited just yet, because it will only be in selected parts of the southern region, namely the state of Johor.

The announcement of the move was made today by think-tank Malaysian Automotive Institute (MAI) during an informal discussion session with the press. It said the move to introduce the fuel is due to necessity, primarily for commercial purposes, specifically for lorries that have to make the daily trip in and out of Singapore.

The republic had earlier announced that effective Jan 1, 2014, all in-use diesel powered vehicles entering the country would be required to meet its new permissible levels of smoke opacity. It later gave a six-month grace period before fully implementing the new rule, but as of July 1, there’s no looking back.

The adjustment, made by Singapore’s National Environment Agency (NEA), lowered the permissible level of black smoke emitted from a vehicle from a previous 50 HSU (Hartridge Smoke Units) to 40 HSU, and with quality of diesel fuel directly affecting smoke emissions from vehicles, all diesel-powered vehicles inbound to the island, be they private or commercial, are bound to fail.

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Malaysia’s Euro 2M-grade diesel fuel standard allows for a sulphur content of 500 parts per million. Conversely, Euro 5 diesel has only 10 ppm of sulphur content – it has been in use in Singapore since 2010, thus making it possible for Singaporean vehicles to easily meet the 40 HSU standard.

Aside from the possibility of offending diesel vehicles being barred from entering Singapore, the perpetrators will also be slapped with hefty fines, with previous reports indicating that it would be S$150 (RM394) for first time offenders, rising to S$200 (RM525) and S$300 (RM787) for each subsequent violation.

Though owners of older, smoky private diesel vehicles (namely pickups) won’t be able to dodge the law, the new ruling will directly affect ageing lorries and buses that ply the route. Every day, up to 3,000 commercial vehicles go in and out of the island; our trade with our neighbour is worth RM4 billion a year, and land transportation remains integral to it.

Currently, Malaysian diesel engines on commercial vehicles are mostly of Euro 1 or 2 standard, MAI’s CEO Madani Sahari said, and while some operators have tried to import Euro 4-compliant engines, this has not been viable in terms of longevity and maintenance, as long-term usage of Euro 2M diesel ends up wreaking havoc on the fuel pump and injectors in these units.

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Going the diesel particulate filter route – which burns-off the excess soot in the form of gas from the engine – is an option to bring smoke emission levels down to permissible levels, Madani explained, but added that the cost of installation is costly, at around RM65,000 per unit, and the filter will only be effective for about a year before it needs to be changed.

So, to keep the wheels turning while obeying the law, the government has allowed the commercial availability of a diesel-grade that will meet the rules, in this case Euro 5. Following discussions with MITI and MAI, BHPetrol has agreed to provide the supply of Euro 5 diesel, and the imported fuel will be available at 15 to 20 of its stations out of its nearly 50 stations in the state of Johor.

Tests carried out on utilising Euro 5 diesel on existing Euro 1 and Euro 2 diesel engines on commercial vehicles have shown that permissible levels meeting Singapore’s HSU standards can be achieved, with a 10% to 50% reduction (as seen in the chart below), so that’s the immediate route chosen. Older lorries that are unable to meet the requirements will have to go the particulate filter route for compliance.

The neat thing is that non-commercial vehicles can purchase the fuel too, even though it’s meant for the latter. Which means that if you own a diesel vehicle and live nearby, you’ll be able to pump Euro 5 diesel into your ride. And all it will cost is an extra 10 sen per litre on top of what it goes for now (which is RM2.00 per litre for Euro 2M diesel), according to Madani.

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That’s right, Euro 5 diesel at RM2.10 per litre. While importing it is a costlier option to begin with, the government is subsidising the Euro 5-standard fuel to existing levels of subsidisation, with the extra 10 sen being borne by the consumer.

Before anyone suggests why the entire country can’t go that route now, or for that matter, the Klang Valley for a start, Madani said that since BHPetrol imports all its fuel stocks, there’s no stopping its stations from the Klang Valley from having Euro 5 diesel at their pumps. He added that there was no regulated supply in the move to introduce Euro 5 diesel, and that any company could do it – only BHPetrol made this initial move.

Such a move would be welcome news for many, of course, especially owners of grey import diesels. Last week, it was reported that Mercedes-Benz Malaysia had said that any failures in Mercedes-Benz cars brought in through unofficial channels would not be accepted under warranty by Daimler AG, as these grey imports are unprepared for local fuel quality.

Incidentally, BHPetrol’s fuel stocks (for petrol) were already at an Euro 3-minimum level some two years back. At its Infiniti Advanced 2x petrol launch in October 2012, the company revealed that the sulphur content in its stocks brought in from Singapore were consistently lower than 500 ppm, with its median average in 2011 being 117 ppm, and in 2012 (up to September) at 131 ppm.

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Then, those numbers were lower than the Euro 3 standard of 150 ppm, placing it between that and Euro 4’s 50 ppm. The company added that some batches of its imported petrol stock had sulphur content registering as low as 12 ppm, close to Euro 5 standard.

An aside on the other oil and gas companies, especially the two primary players in the country; Petronas is still a ways away from delivering its first Euro 4-grade fuel – its Pengerang Integrated Petroleum Complex is set to deliver Euro 4 diesel and petrol to Malaysians, but that won’t come online until sometime in 2017, we were told by sources. Shell, meanwhile, hasn’t revealed its transition plans as yet.

In any case, Euro 4 (or Euro 4M) fuel is integral in the new Energy Efficient Vehicles (EEV) incentives policy outlined in NAP 2014, and the last news about that was that studies were being done on it before a timeframe for deployment was announced. It’s certainly taking its time – Euro 4 was, back in 2011, scheduled to be introduced this year.

This side move, brought about by necessity for the protection of trade, may be a significant step forward and provide the catalyst to finally getting us on the road in having a national fuel grade up to par with evolving global standards, a small a step it may be. As it goes along, if things don’t change, we’ll simply find ourselves getting left behind further and further. And dirtier as well. “We need to have better fuel quality, not just for technological reasons, but environmental ones too,” Madani added.

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Anthony Lim believes that nothing is better than a good smoke and a car with character, with good handling aspects being top of the prize heap. Having spent more than a decade and a half with an English tabloid daily never being able to grasp the meaning of brevity or being succinct, he wags his tail furiously at the idea of waffling - in greater detail - about cars and all their intrinsic peculiarities here.

 

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  • mim (Member) on Jun 26, 2014 at 9:03 pm

    Better late than never…

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    • gutierrez on Jun 26, 2014 at 10:05 pm

      maybe its because of that sultan johor n his family.. they loveeee expensive cars! how come no diesel in kk? please larrrr G! I pity my hilux.. only euro 2.. lots of smoke when full throttle despite timely service…

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        • gutierrez on Jun 27, 2014 at 8:33 am

          fcuktard! how old are u kid? 10? this is THE INTERNET!!!!!! wana make a police report? be my guest.. why dont u search more thru paultan comments section. furthermore brownse over the entire web n let me see how many MILLIONS OF REPORT youre gona make! #noob #getback2school

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          • MuchoGusto on Jun 28, 2014 at 10:16 am

            Jealous much?
            #Ineedtohashtag #Immassaysomethingimportant

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          • jenjenjen on Jun 29, 2014 at 3:19 pm

            i believe zah’s statement to be sarcastic in nature.

            who’s the noob now???

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        • Same L0r on Jun 27, 2014 at 11:26 am

          Nice! Malaysian deserve a better environment.

          Those who is willing to sacrifice the environment, put next generation into danger of pollution, because of making more profit, are short-sighted.

          Those rich will get their kids immigrated to Australia, UK, NZ, while leaving the poor to suffer the consequence.

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          • truely malaysian on Jun 27, 2014 at 3:57 pm

            Same LOr,

            Migrate is for going to and immigrate is for coming in.

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          • Obviously (Member) on Jun 27, 2014 at 8:05 pm

            More precisely, emigrate is to leave, immigrate is to come.

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        • TopsyBoXyTurvy on Jun 27, 2014 at 12:41 pm

          what’s wrong with saying people love expensive cars? i love expensive and not so expensive cars, dr m’s son (loves) has(had) some expensive sports cars…my friends love cheap cars, my clients datuk datuk tan sri love sports cars and many cars….

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      • Government and Lies on Jun 27, 2014 at 7:32 am

        The fact MAI and the government could introduce clean Euro 5 diesel itself proves one thing, we could have done this long ago, but MAI and the government did not bother to do so because they could not care a damn about the well being of Malaysians. They rather see Malaysians suffer with high fuel bills and clog up their engines with dirty petrol and diesel.
        Madani and MAI are frauds created by the government to confuse people and delay the process of giving us cleaner fuel and cheaper cars. Every NAP, Madani will come up with complicated formulas to confuse people. But what people want is very simple. It is
        1) Cleaner diesel and petrol
        2) Cheaper cars
        The above two, Madani and MAI try to brush under the carpet. As for fuel, they want Malaysians to suffer. They want us to use more petrol and suffer. The fact that Malaysia had the technology and ability to introduce clean Euro 5 diesel itself shows that Madani, MAI and the Government was very happy to see the rakyat choke with hazardous and dangerous smoke and fumes with our dirty Euro 2 diesel for the past 10 years.
        So many peole in KL for instance, wait at bus stops but are smoked by dirty Metrobusses and they choke and choke on a daily basis. Most of us, befor ebuying our cars have experienced this. The ministers, in their heavily escorted cars see this but just close an eye. They sit in their fancy cars with police escorts and see the Metrobus emitting thick black smoke suffocating the public. They don’t care. Why? Because the bus companies, the Metrobusses are all owned indirectly by the Ministers. So are most of the stage, intercity busses and lorries that emit thick black smoke.
        But MAI and Madani don’t care. Let the rakyat suffer. Let the pakcik and makcik choke and die. We don’t care. That is their attitude.
        Then there is the fact that government never encouraged diesel cars like Europe. You see, diesel cars give you double the mileage. So if you are spending RM1000 per month now for say 2000KM per month, if you had a diesel car, you will only spend RM500 per month for the same 2000KM. The governments in Europe knew this long ago. They cared for the rakyat. So, they made sure diesel was promoted to ease the burden of the rakyat.
        Malaysia never encouraged diesel cars. Infact if you used a diesel car, government made sure not only you suffered with dirty fuel injectors and damage your engines, you were also laughed at by people becaus eof the loud sound the Euro 2 dirty diesel caused.
        One thing is very clear, MAI, government and Madani lied to the people of Malaysia. For many years, they said Euro 2 diesel was fine for the rakyat of Malaysia. Now, from his very own mouth, Madani admits, diesel DAMAGES the car. So, for years BMW Malaysia, owned by Sime Darby Malaysia, a GLC was lying to use saying our diesel was fine and it was okey for consumers to buy BMW diesel cars like the 320d and 520d.
        BMW diesel owners should now collectively sue BMW Maalysia because a government official from its own automotive think tank has confirmed, all diesel engines are doomed. So, every car from your Ford Focus diesel to your 320d and 520d cannot sell anymore in the 2nd hand market because the government official has confimed, the car is doomed.
        The Government of Malaysia has not been fair to the rakyat of Malaysia. The fact that they can introduce clean Euro 5 diesel just to please the Singapore authorities show one thing, they had the ability and technology to bring in clean diesel long ago and never did.
        As for the price of clean Euro 5 diesel, the government has to stop its lies and bullshit. Everybody in the oil industry globally confirms one thing. Malaysia has the “sweetest” crude oil in the world. What this means is this, we produce the highest quality oil in the world. The best of the best. But the rakyat don’t see this. This is exported for other people in the world to use. Then Malaysia reimports low grade and low quality oil at a very cheap price for the rakyat to use.
        The question is this. Isnt the beautiful sweet high grade quality oil Malaysia produces belong to the rakyat of Malaysia? Why sell it of at a higher price to other countries? The oil belongs to the rakyat of Malaysia. It should be given to the people of Malaysia first. Why import dirty and filthy oil and give the rakyat of Malaysia? Why are Malaysians treated like dogs and be given the bones when other people are given the nice flesh to eat?
        Another issue is subsidy. There is no such thing of subsidy. MAI, Madani and the Government of Malaysia has been lying to Malaysians the past 20 years about subsidy. You see, what you produce, you cannot subsidise. If the government does not sell our high grade oil overseas and give it to Malaysians to use, what is there to subsidise?
        This story has been going around a long time to fool the people of Malaysia, especially, the kampung people that petrol need to be subsidised. We don’t need to subsidise any petrol or fuel because Malaysia produces ample oil not only for its rakyat but also for export. So, if you produce your own oil, what is there to subsidise?
        If you grow vegetables in your garden to eat, you cannot go around telling people that your vegetables are subsidised. You are growing it. You are producing it. You don’t have to buy it at all from an external source. The same with oil. We produce it. We should be using it first. This is how the Sultan of Brunei thinks. That is why he gives his rakyat very cheap fuel. Then the balance, he exports it at global prices. For him, rakyat comes first.
        Our government, terbalik. Rakyat comes last. And our oil resources are far more than Brunei. Few years ago, in the global media, Petronas struck the largest oil reserve and land in the world. Global media confirmed it was the largest oil reserve in the entire world. Then the next day, our government covered it up as mere speculation. So, in actual fact, Malaysia’s petrol company Petronas has unlimited reserves of oil for the next 30 or 40 years. Can we Malaysians please have the priority to get this fuel first for the rakyat?
        And can MAI, Madani and the Government of Malaysia stop lying to the rakyat and public?

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        • droll on Jun 27, 2014 at 8:32 am

          I offer a slightly different explanation. I believe what you mean by “we could have done this long ago” means it is technically feasible to have euro5 diesel in Malaysia.

          “Economically” speaking, it may not be so feasible because of many interested parties i.e. cronyism?

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          • Shell Esso Caltex Petron Close Shop on Jun 27, 2014 at 11:15 am

            Caltex, Esso, Shell and Petron, better you all just close shop.

            People are aware that only BHP gives close to Euro 4 petrol standards.

            It is heavily discussed in every online forum and discussion this morning.

            Everyone is talking about it. oLoyal fans of Petronas, Petron and Shell also
            now want to give up their petrol to switch to BHP.

            I also am changing my petrol to bhp. About 10 of my friends already confirmed changing their petrol to BHP.

            Everyone is talking about it. This post also got 1700 facebook shares. The whole nation is buzzing about moving to BHP

            Habislah Caltex, Shell, Esso Petron.

            Better close shop. Just keep your marts open to sell air mineral and bun. Especially Gardenia bun jagung, vanilla krim and Gardenia Twiggies

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        • Hak Asasi on Jun 27, 2014 at 11:33 am

          Our GOVERNMENT love Scarcity and Control our perception towards subsidy oil so they can earn more TAX. There is nothing Free in this world except if we use other or collective people money :)

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        • Same L0r on Jun 27, 2014 at 1:51 pm

          You are right.

          Does Proton has diesel engine? No!

          Does Proton engine require better fuel? No!

          Does Petronas earn more on selling cheap fuel? Yes!

          So why bother to upgrade? It is all about money, bro.

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          • xiper (Member) on Jun 28, 2014 at 12:04 am

            Proton has a Wira with 2.0D engine

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          • CryLord on Jul 09, 2014 at 4:29 pm

            dont be stupid, their preve is euro5 standard.

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        • apam2009 on Jun 29, 2014 at 11:09 am

          Dear Sir or Madam

          I dont think you did a good research on how oil business works. All your statement on oil in your article is rubbish. Full agree govt should not subsidize fuel but the reasoning you put in is inaccurate. I’m coming from the oil business itself willing to share with you how does the business works if you are interested.

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        • carlos on Jun 29, 2014 at 1:54 pm

          The issue that is staring you right in your face is the subsidies that you are now enjoying.
          And millions of commercial vehicles consuming, of which an important criteria of transport cost of goods.
          Are you ready to do away with subsidy.
          Merchants are just waiting to raise the cost of living

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    • iskhalifah (Member) on Jun 26, 2014 at 11:30 pm

      Why 2017?? Malulah Petronas… biggest oil company making billions out of upstream PSC & offshore contracts yet lagging behind in downstream (providing Euro4 quality fuel).

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      • kzm fanboy on Jun 27, 2014 at 8:35 am

        Partly to blame is Proton, they don’t have money to develop clean diesel engine. So govt don’t bother to bring Euro 4m diesel. Or else more modern diesel cars being sold here while Proton losing more car sales.

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      • Being one of the world crude oil exporter country, we have to have other country to enforce so we can supply our people with better grade fuel, this is a disgrace.

        Learn from Sg or even Penang, you will be amazed the feedback from tourist who visited JB and Pg.

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      • kzm (Member) on Jun 27, 2014 at 11:09 am

        partly due to opposition to built petronas pengerang plant…i wonder who?

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        • Live Muhibbah kzm! on Jun 27, 2014 at 4:05 pm

          kzm, still bringing politics into every post. Still bringing hatred, racism and politics.

          Bro, when you gonna stop? Learn to live muhibbah lah in Malaysia. Semua bangsa sama. Semua orang anak Tuhan.

          Try lah not to bring racism, opposition, skin colour, bangsa in every post. People getting fed up of you lah

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          • kzm (Member) on Jun 28, 2014 at 3:48 am

            ?? i just said wat is true. tell me wat type comment above that i response…u try read all other comment bro they talk politic and rasis more than me. others can talk i cant…u see i add rasis comment?

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    • Vader (Member) on Jun 27, 2014 at 7:15 am

      Yup, is a good news to us.
      But hopefully there is always a stock when we going to get the fuel.
      Now a lot of bullshXt bussiness tactic that we sell this and that, then when we going to buy it then they claim no stock or habis stock.

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    • By the end of this topic posting, we would have read that BHP provide euro 3 and 4 fuel. Whether it’s true or not, may I suggest that we, paultan readers, temp ban all other brand and just pumb from BHP for a month or 2, as a show of protest to the govt and all other brand, why BHP can do it, and the rest can’t; provide a better grade fuel for us. At no extra cost.

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  • isync on Jun 26, 2014 at 9:05 pm

    Anyone confirm BHP is Euro 3 standard? If I am right, since all Malaysia petrol stock fuel should be supplied by Petronas

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    • Read the whole article lah before commenting, bhpetrol does not get it stocks from Petronas, but directly import from Singapore…

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    • kzm (Member) on Jun 27, 2014 at 12:25 am

      u read above all BHP fuel stock is imported..

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      • kzm fan on Jun 27, 2014 at 8:16 am

        kzm must start an NGO to ban users from using BHP.
        BHP is using import fuel! we no use import fuel!

        we must sapport local products! we must no use BHP and use Petronas and Petron! because Petronas is local malaysian muslim product and petron because it’s a crony linked beer company!

        stop using BHP! must ban BHP!
        no support evil singapore and israel and support local crony and pinoy beer!

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        • kzm (Member) on Jun 28, 2014 at 4:06 am

          BHP is local product..petronas, petron, shell or any other petrol company in boleh use imported fuel..

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      • HRmmm on Jun 27, 2014 at 2:54 pm

        if imported n not supplied from Petronas, how come they can get subsidy? something not right here,, hrmmm..

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        • Bau Ikan on Jun 27, 2014 at 4:38 pm

          Very very good question. Maybe Paul Tan can investigate further since he wrote a lot on BHP.

          If imported, how come got subsidy given?

          That means, if I go Singapore and bring a tanker in to fill up petrol for personal use, can I get subsidy too from the Malaysian government?

          Something smells pretty fishy.

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        • kzm (Member) on Jun 28, 2014 at 4:00 am

          well half fuel use in boleh is imported one..nothing new there or to be surprise..

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    • apam2009 on Jun 29, 2014 at 11:13 am

      Your understanding is incorrect. Not all stock fuel coming from Petronas. All oil co in Malaysia has its own independent supply chain

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  • What a major difference between our Environment ministry and Singapore’s National Environment Agency… sigh…

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    • Please compare the price brother than talk…

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      • BeemerFreak on Jun 27, 2014 at 7:25 am

        It is the initiative and the commitment to get things done. No always say money and talk with no action only. That’s the only thing our g is good at, talk and plan at the end change.

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      • frenzyaustin on Jun 27, 2014 at 7:27 am

        Then compare la salary, safety, cleanliness, GDP, Human development index and every other things. Living cost/Salary is roughly the same as Malaysia except they have much better safety and development also quality of life.

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        • kzm (Member) on Jun 27, 2014 at 11:10 am

          but why do they shop at JB? does not make sense…

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          • Srsly on Jun 28, 2014 at 4:38 pm

            The main reason why Singaporeans come to Johor to shop is because our currency is dirt cheap compared to theirs. Does this make sense to you now?

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        • Wisdom on Jun 30, 2014 at 10:51 am

          You’re mistaken.

          Standard of living : Singapore
          Quality of Life : Malaysia

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      • driver on Jun 27, 2014 at 7:47 am

        what prices got to do with this? It’s about policy and well-being.

        If it’s not for the sake of business (read: money leaving our soil), I wonder whether they would even thinking of introducing cleaner fuel in Malaysia.

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    • ministry of comparison on Jun 27, 2014 at 8:24 am

      you see these laws and regulation in zimbabwe?
      no, right?

      you see this law protection act enforced in somalia?
      no, right?

      you see these kinds of regulation in uganda, namibia, rwanda?
      no, right?

      that’s why la!
      you compare with the wrong country. bersyukutlar.

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    • TopsyBoXyTurvy on Jun 27, 2014 at 11:13 am

      Good point indeed. we just hv to look at the Metro buses and lorries around klang valley: look like scrap metal body, Thick black smoke, loud noise…feels like third-world..

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    • truely malaysian on Jun 27, 2014 at 4:01 pm

      Our G always telling rakyat that Singapore is not a country, it is a state only.

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  • shawal on Jun 26, 2014 at 9:11 pm

    -_-“

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  • available only because of singapore

    sad la our country

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    • pondan on Jun 27, 2014 at 8:34 am

      Waiting gov to either deny everything or just say nothing. But the fact that we are using low quality stuffs is proven.

      Next thing, Dr. Moron will say Proton will have petrol models that are way way better fuel mileage than diesel or diesel models that use Euro 2M fuel and yet emitting less pollution than diesel cars that use Euro5.

      U know la, Dr. Moron is good in talking cxxk and crap.

      Before anything else, he will raise proton price first.

      ***malaysia is still being treated like idiot***

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  • dodgviper88 on Jun 26, 2014 at 9:12 pm

    Just wondering if the higher euro grades just mean lower ppm, can’t a ‘Malaysian’ spec use a finer fuel filter to compensate the lower grade fuel in Malaysia?

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    • mim (Member) on Jun 26, 2014 at 9:51 pm

      Then the fuel filter will be clogged within a month. The stock fuel filter in my Hilux can get really dirty under one year.

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    • klata-klata on Jun 27, 2014 at 2:41 am

      The particles are the product of combustion, i.e. post fuel filter. The lower grade fuel has higher sulfur content that is not precipitates that can be filtered out by even ultra-fine fuel filter.

      Besides contributing to particulates, the sulfur damages the expensive, and very high pressured fuel pump as well as the high precision injectors. Hence some motorists are paying the price for the 10sen saving per liter of low-grade fuel.

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  • Obviously (Member) on Jun 26, 2014 at 9:12 pm

    Thank you, Singapore! In the end, it’s the thought of trade coming to a halt that causes these measures to be taken. Money drives so much of Malaysia, huh? I wonder if, by the time 2017 comes along and Petronas’ plant finally becomes operational, Euro4 would already be out of date. Europe is on the road to Euro6 now. Shouldn’t it be Euro9 by 2017?

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    • AVH (Member) on Jun 26, 2014 at 10:45 pm

      Kinda sad to see the state of planning by our government, it’s almost like throu economics sanctions than force Malaysia to adopt Euro 5. Hopefully it will spread more and more to major cities.
      And hopefully, normal petrol will follow suit.

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      • Obviously (Member) on Jun 27, 2014 at 1:54 am

        The problem now is that since it’s imported, they’re more expensive than the currently available fuels (govt has to pay more subsidy…). Since Petronas will be very late to the party, let’s hope Shell can bring more affordable clean fuels to the table.

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      • klata-klata on Jun 27, 2014 at 2:45 am

        Several planned datelines have lapsed with tidak apa attitude, until the butt got kicked by reality.

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  • presna (Member) on Jun 26, 2014 at 9:15 pm

    this could be good, while it’s still small scale sorta like a pilot program,
    maybe couple of years down the road the whole country can have better fuel at the pumps….

    so guess a thank you to SG is due for this….

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  • Netsoft on Jun 26, 2014 at 9:22 pm

    I don’t understand why can’t we have the initiative to introduce these fuels earlier compared to somewhat “forced” to do so because of Singapore’s ruling. What’s going on in Malaysia?

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  • Anti-Fuel-Price on Jun 26, 2014 at 9:24 pm

    And yet Petroleum companies told us “Need to be postponed DUE to high cost of conversion”. When something really need to be done/implement it can be done UNLESS…… It has own agenda. Furthermore it been postpones till lost count!!!! to myself.

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  • old dog on Jun 26, 2014 at 9:25 pm

    Know who is behind BHP? ya right. Its horse’s little donkie…so with Beer Petrol Station and BHP, the horse family wanted more. (Thats why back to p1 la)..

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    • klata-klata on Jun 27, 2014 at 2:50 am

      BHP is majority owned by Tabung Haji, not “horse family”. I think you meant Petron/Exxon-Mobile.

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      • Aiya…BHP, is Boustead Petroleum Mktg 100% owned by Boustead Holdings Berhad(BHB) a PLC which is majority owned Lembaga Tabung Angkatan Tentera(LTAT). Anyway, staffs at BHB had long knew this and thts why most of us pumped BHP. Their petrol are at least Euro3 while the diesel are mostly euro4, yeap…they got their fuel supplies from SG hence the better grade!..hahaha guess after this, there will be a loongg que to all BHP station since only now ppl realised what they had missed.bttr starts pumping at BHP, will surely improve the life of ur both petrols & diesels ride

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        • ajuks on Jun 27, 2014 at 8:55 am

          Yes, you are correct, my car engine performed much much better with BHP petrol, and Petron too compare to Petronas and Shell.

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        • No wonder lah my truck is damn kau smooth everytime after i pump in BHP. Esepcially the one near Tapah R&R south bound.

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        • kl fella on Jun 27, 2014 at 12:01 pm

          i’m driving f30 320d and my first choice of fuel is BHP diesel. and they’re always the first stations to run out of diesel fuel every month. when that happens, i have to pump shell or petronas, and i can tell you, there’s huge difference in terms of sound of diesel clatter and performance. when i pump shell/petronas diesel, felt a bit more sluggish and noisier. when i pump BHP diesel, it’s smoother and can feel the torque coming in earlier.. could it be BHP diesel is not B5? i know B5 diesel in petronas/shell hampers performance

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          • as i mentioned earlier…bhp diesel are imported from SG, and its euro4 diesel. So since now u already knew, i suggest u pumped ur diesel ride wt BHP… hope u’ll enjoyed ur torquey diesel ride more wt BHP ; )

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  • Clean Diesel on Jun 26, 2014 at 9:36 pm

    my car come with a DPF and the regeneration interval is the longest using B** diesel.

    using one other popular brand, it regenerate 6 times more frequently.

    contrary to popular belief, there is a significant difference in diesel quality available in the market today.

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  • Eric Lim on Jun 26, 2014 at 9:52 pm

    Wow, seems like i can decide to change to a diesel ride and pump in johor too! Yeah!

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    • For diesel owners just pump BHP. Seeing that they get all their fuel from singapore for all their stations, so all their fuel should be better that those supplied by petronas!

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    • well said bro, im also thinking about buying diesel vehicle from a long time ago. but waiting for higher grade of diesel introduced. so lucky to live in jb too, looks like i’m gonna cut off my gas money by half starting next year. hehe

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  • Haidir on Jun 26, 2014 at 9:53 pm

    Bravo

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  • KillBox1Alpha on Jun 26, 2014 at 9:55 pm

    The only reason why Euro 5 grade diesel is available because of Singapores strict regulations,not because Malaysians deserve. Shame we have to depend on our neighbours….

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    • klata-klata on Jun 27, 2014 at 2:56 am

      Not only Singapore, Thailand too. We should be sensible to realise that our neighbors are hinting that we stink, or sting, and not welcomed.

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      • not just SG & Thai, …ur maid’s country, Indonesia is already Euro4. Hmm, seems like Msia looks very uncivilsed now

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        • fast5 on Jun 28, 2014 at 9:03 am

          All thanks to “real owner” DrM and families.
          They monopolies malaysia’s petroleum industry.

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  • KillBox1Alpha on Jun 26, 2014 at 9:55 pm

    The only reason why Euro 5 grade diesel is available because of Singapores strict regulations,not because Malaysians deserve. Shame we have to depend on our neighbours….

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  • spongewai on Jun 26, 2014 at 10:23 pm

    adui, g ahh g… what r u doing??!

    why choose only Johor??

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  • YeapyEvo on Jun 26, 2014 at 10:24 pm

    BHP should introduce Euro 5 diesel in major city like KL and Penang too, I believe a lot people won’t mind paying extra (RM2.1 or more) for better quality diesel as it has proven to be more fuel efficient than hybrid in many cases and we can say goodbye to those underpower SUV like Honda CRV petrol.

    Hope BHP can introduce EURO 5 petrol RON97 at the same time, RM3 is acceptable to me .

    BHP petrol is my first choice now due to its > EURO 3M petrol, good job!

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    • mim (Member) on Jun 26, 2014 at 11:55 pm

      If we’re really going for EURO5, then our pump should be RON95 and RON98. Many high performance cars nowadays runs optimally on RON98

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      • YeapyEvo on Jun 27, 2014 at 12:15 pm

        Yeah RON98 more suitable for cars like Prince engine 200THP, Swift Sport, Civic Type FD2R etc. Those who bought these cars won’t mind paying extra to take care of their engine.

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  • seancorr on Jun 26, 2014 at 10:30 pm

    We should be thanking Singapore for helping us push for higher quality fuel. If not for them God knows when we will have better fuel.

    Oh the side note….you lucky chaps in Johor!

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  • Euro5 grade diesel just because of Singapore? So it’s OK to pollute our very own Malaysia but it’s not ok to pollute Singapore!
    Bravo our Gomen… Another brilliant decision!

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  • nabill (Member) on Jun 26, 2014 at 11:13 pm

    In this country,This is a major epic earthquake tsunami volcano earth shattering news……!
    In some online forums,alot of those truck owners actually do testify that bhp diesel is the best amoung others….but thn again isnt all fuels come from petronas refinaries….??
    abit confusing,bt who cares,we should celebrate this news!

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    • noped…BHP import they supplies from SG, thats why its fuel are better grade. Yup, starts from today…i advice u to starts pumping from BHP…

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  • Mad Shah Taleb on Jun 26, 2014 at 11:17 pm

    We are at E2M standard and our neighbours are at E4, E5 and above. Way different standards. Yet gomen say our fuel price still cheapest in SEAsia. Of course cheaper becos our standards lower! If we also get E4, E5 are the petrol pump, will our prices still be the cheapest?

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  • iskhalifah (Member) on Jun 26, 2014 at 11:27 pm

    The motive is to get more tax & trade money instead of protecting the environment & people’s quality of life. *sigh*

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  • tishaban on Jun 26, 2014 at 11:54 pm

    Interesting that the spillover effects of good policies from neighboring countries are actually benefiting us in a small way. I’m not complaining, well maybe a little to ask that the better diesel be marketed in KL too. If I can get RON97 and VPower in KL at higher prices, I’m ok with paying more for better diesel too.

    On the pessimistic side, let the smuggling of higher margin Euro 5 diesel begin!

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  • MatSallehLingkup on Jun 27, 2014 at 12:17 am

    In fact, all the fuel – both petrol and diesel – sold in Malaysia is refined from imported crude oil. Yes, if you are buying from a Petronas station, Shell, BHP, whatever, you are buying fuel made from imported oil, mostly from the Middle East. This is because Malaysian crude oil is of very high quality (being very low in sulphur) and is therefore used exclusively as a chemical feedstock – to made plastics, fertilizer, paints, pharmaceuticals, etc. Malaysian crude oil commands a higher price than low quality Middle Eastern oil – it is literally too good to burn! Malaysia could therefore very easily meet domestic demand for low sulphur diesel by blending in some diesel refined from local oil. This will of course come at an increased cost though.

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  • Drive Your Way (Member) on Jun 27, 2014 at 12:19 am

    Don’t understand why we couldn’t have euro 5 grade fuel till we were forced to do so under regulation of Singapore? Because in their very seemingly honest opinion all available good reasons aren’t justifiable till they gonna lose 4 billions myr worth of trade and hurry their ass to quickly implement part of it, just barely enough to secure the ongoing trade with our neighboring country. If you think my point is misleading, please continue to support whoever you think worthy. Thanks.

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  • Waja Lim on Jun 27, 2014 at 1:43 am

    for Truck/bus using Euro 4/5/6 engine, required extra cost for Adblue (Diesel Exhaust Fluid )to get euro 4/5/6. usually every 1000km required 4~6 Liter Adblue with cost around RM25+- per-liter, which means every 1000KM will extra RM100 (pay for environment) that will cause cost transportation for Lorry will increase, than bring price goods increase. somemore Euro 4/5/6 engine more high-tech, more cost, more parts, more professional tools to service, to maintenance truck, also bring cost high, that will change to delivery cost. All we know local lorry user most not maintenance properly some more want cheap cost to drive and service. at the end Euro 4/5/6 not meaning to Lorry /bus owner. maybe big company owner。

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  • Edward Lee on Jun 27, 2014 at 5:41 am

    I feel lucky and pround that i am a Johorian. The best part is i am near to Singapore. World first class country.

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    • droll on Jun 27, 2014 at 8:33 am

      but it does come at a price – sky high prices due to singaporeans shopping in Johor. :(

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    • Faridz on Jun 27, 2014 at 10:08 am

      U shouldnt be too proud of the sultan u have. I admit i do admire them for owning nice cars.But isnt it better if sultans initiate more funds to educate the locals, mostly being hardcore BN supporter. educate them to strive for themselves, take example from Singaporean malay. Those Malays are indeed world class Malays. Those are real Malay identity and carry on the Malay legacy as top trader in these region. So sorry but not Malaysian Malays as they are poisoned by the NEP system. OOps..

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  • gaviny on Jun 27, 2014 at 8:09 am

    Big thanks to BHP for providing quality fuels to motorists.

    Not only diesel, but new fangled direct injected engines like Mazda Skyactive love clean Euro 3 fuels. Now it’s again confirmed i’m definitely assured now direct injected engines are the way forward for my next car.

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  • ThePolygon on Jun 27, 2014 at 9:28 am

    So it takes the S’pore govt to start the M’sia change … sad…

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  • Rennie A Ghani on Jun 27, 2014 at 9:34 am

    Actually to produce Euro 4 or even Euro 5 diesels require modifications to existing infrastructure at Malaysian refineries, do most people know that operating a refinery is very challenging and tge margins are small, adding more refining towers to get to the smaller ppm particles require upfront investments that may not translate to ROI, who in their right mind would want to do that? Unless mandated by goverment. For better quality diesel people needs to be prepared to pay more .Malaysian imports crude from middle east and sells our sweet crude to others for refining to jet fuel. So market prices dictate the cost to refiners. Now price of crude went up due to Iraq situation thus it cost more and refiners margin is less, so it all falls back on how much one is willing to pay to get good high quality fuel, next time not sure ask those in the industry

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    • please don’t think of the several millions of ringgit spending required to upgrade our fuels. The fact is these companies earn profit in BILLIONS of ringgit year on year. Irreversible damage to the environment cannot at be ROI’ed.

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  • I can't believe it on Jun 27, 2014 at 9:36 am

    “We need to have better fuel quality, not just for technological reasons, but environmental ones too,” Madani added.

    Omg? Only now he (or anyone else) mentioned environmental reasons? Where has this guy been all these while?

    As one of the world’s largest oil & gas exporting nation, I find it rather amusing as to how we could NOT have better fuel grades in our very own country.

    What’s worst is that, according to Petronas employees, the company exports the better grades elsewhere. Is this true?

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  • albag on Jun 27, 2014 at 10:23 am

    Stupid government introduce skit skit je.. Apa maksud negara Malaysia???

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  • For the first time ever in my life,

    I would like to THANK the Singapore Government.

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  • fourwheeler on Jun 27, 2014 at 11:14 am

    … everybody should try to find out who’s the majority behind the business of the petrol station in bolehland…to change the pump machines is a lot of investment to do… so better they just shut their mouth…count profit in every single second…

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  • I believe we need new processing facilities, new pump, etc…. and millions or billions Ringgit to transform entire diesel fuel in Malaysia from Euro 1 to Euro 5.

    Who will pay that amount of money? Unless the consumer willing to pay extra for cleaner fuel of course.

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  • kl fella on Jun 27, 2014 at 12:07 pm

    oh no!! now more and more motorists will start pumping BHP diesel fuel and i’ll have more and more trouble getting my stock of diesel for my 320d!! even though my 320d can run 800km on average and i only pump once every 2 weeks, i think before it hits the half tank mark i’ll head straight to BHP station again.. it happened before that i visited 4 different BHP stations to get my car filled up with BHP diesel lol

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    • kl fella on Jun 27, 2014 at 12:08 pm

      to be frank, i don’t mind paying upwards to RM2.80 for Euro5 diesel fuel

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      • Modest KL Fella on Jun 27, 2014 at 2:35 pm

        Seems like you’re more interested in telling about your car than anything else.

        Btw, I’m pretty sure most ppl won’t mind paying more for better fuel standards.

        After all, it’s the least we could do for Mother Nature

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        • kl fella on Jun 27, 2014 at 6:13 pm

          yes trying to spread the diesel bug to paultan readers.. doesn’t have to be 320d.. can be 520d, 508 diesel, santa fe, etc

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    • Me. :-)

      Being pumping V POwer Racing for the past three years for my other car. Thats 3RM.10/liter mind you.

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  • NormanTheGreat (Member) on Jun 27, 2014 at 12:50 pm

    Most of the pressure come from Sg govt..imagine Handal Indah buses that travel in and out to Sg with euro 2 diesel?Even Sg public transport is already 85% Euro V compliant..The B9TLs deckers is Euro III & V,Scania K230UBs is Euro IV & V,The Merc Citaros is Euro V,The MAN A22 & A24s is Euro V and easily achieve Euro VI and the latest Alexander Dennis Enviro 500 deckers is Euro V..Even their turbodiesel Taxis is Euro IV minimum

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  • abdullah on Jun 27, 2014 at 2:13 pm

    For the public to enjoy the best quality product at the most competitive price the fuel and car market should be open up. This is what free competition is all about.

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  • sparkoeng on Jun 27, 2014 at 3:53 pm

    Really BHP petrol fuel? Just marketing stategy? Either use Petronas is GOC BHP is GLC. BHP diesel high sulphur.

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  • truely malaysian on Jun 27, 2014 at 4:45 pm

    Diesel Euro 2 started in 1996
    Diesel Euro 3 started in 2000
    Diesel Euro 4 started in 2005
    Diesel Euro 5 started in 2009
    Diesel Euro 6 will start from Sept 2014

    which means we are at least 14 years behind others…

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  • truely malaysian on Jun 27, 2014 at 5:20 pm

    EURO 2- 1996
    EURO 3- 2000
    EURO 4- 2005
    EURO 5- 2009
    EURO 6- SEPT 2014
    We are at least 14 years behind others!!!

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  • Sharon on Jun 27, 2014 at 6:21 pm

    How about petrol?

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  • Iskandar on Jun 28, 2014 at 7:20 am

    DPF cost RM65,000.00 and has to be replace annually? Really? Can someone verify this?

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  • Dr R Azrin on Jun 28, 2014 at 9:12 am

    Thus why I always fill up inside Singapore when I have to work here.
    One trick Singaporean truckers do is to add 5% or ard $10 of V-Power Racing or Caltex 98 to further reduce their smoke despite Euro-5 standard.

    The AdBlue *(DEF) is also needed to comply with Euro4/5 standard. Not so hard to modify…

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  • ManusiaCantik on Jun 28, 2014 at 9:52 am

    Campro still best engine in this world.

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  • jimmy on Jun 28, 2014 at 11:32 am

    malaysia GOV have to look into the malaysia environment issue as air polution is getting worse over the years, which china facing now, therefore have to implement cleaner fuel for commercial vehicle

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  • KickingDust on Jun 28, 2014 at 3:58 pm

    BHP fuel is all the while higher grade than other suppliers in Malaysia.

    BHP is owned by Boustead Holdings and understand that it’s boards directors are all related to MINDEF
    members. The imported vehicles that are brought in for the usage of Malaysia Arm’s force, must meet it’s manufacturers requirements.

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  • Guest on Jul 01, 2014 at 5:34 pm

    Can someone please enlighten me as to how ‘dirtier’ euro2 stuff can clog up filters, injectors and also high pressure fuel pumps?

    I have always thought that is only ‘dirtier’ chemically but not in the physical sense. That being the case how will it affect components pre-combustion?

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  • LIM FEI YAU on Aug 01, 2014 at 7:15 pm

    Anyone knows which BHP station has Euro 5 diesel for sale now on Johor?

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  • Cain Wong on May 15, 2016 at 4:34 pm

    You have good EURO 5 Diesel but you still need the DEF or adblue to solve the cleaner exhaust discharge.
    you have Green Engine with cleaner Diesel Fuel, still you need the SCR engine to ran cleaner

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