Mustapa: Difficult for government to abolish AP policy

Mustapa MITI

The approved permit (AP) system for imported vehicles is not a popular one, as it brings little benefit to the majority of Malaysians, but it’s not something that’s easy to scrap, apparently. We’ve heard talk about doing away with APs before, but until today, the government is still studying proposals to abolish the system, according to a Bernama report.

“When we look deeper, we find that it is a little difficult, there is an impact on employment and government revenue,” International Trade and Industry Minister, Datuk Seri Mustapa Mohamed told reporters after witnessing an exchange of documents between Pertubuhan Usahawan Generasi Muda Berjaya Malaysia and Malaysian Biotechnology Corporation.

The MITI minister said that any alternative to the AP system should be able to make up for the loss of government revenue, adding that in the last three years, the government collected about RM1 billion from the issuance of APs. Mustapa went on to say that removing APs would affect the incomes of employees of 100 companies who are AP holders and, indirectly, the national economy.

He said MITI is still studying the proposal and it is still too early for the government to consider the options.

naza showroom

The 2009 NAP policy specified that open APs would be terminated by Dec 31, 2015, and franchised APs by Dec 31, 2020. At the announcement of NAP 2014 in January, it was stated that the government would be appointing a company to do an in-depth study on the impact of the termination of Open APs on Bumiputera participation in the automotive industry.

Recently, ex-PM and “father” of the AP system Tun Dr Mahathir Mohamad conceded that the controversial system introduced to help Malays rise in business has backfired, with some trading in the licences for a quick profit instead.

“We want to help the Malays, but they don’t want to help themselves. We must review how far we can give these APs. It’s fine if people actually get into business. Like Naza, they succeeded. They’re big now because they got APs. If Malays really made full use of this opportunity, they’d be like Naza,” Tun told Malay weekly Mingguan Malaysia.

“The problem is, there are some Malays who just want to sell the APs to other people and get lots of money. They get it for free and they can sell it for RM8,000,” Proton’s new chairman added.

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Danny Tan loves driving as much as he loves a certain herbal meat soup, and sweet engine music as much as drum beats. He has been in the auto industry since 2006, previously filling the pages of two motoring magazines before joining this website. Enjoys detailing the experience more than the technical details.

 

Comments

  • Ali baba on Jul 08, 2014 at 5:23 pm

    Wow! What a Suprise of the century!

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    • Same L0r on Jul 08, 2014 at 7:31 pm

      I am not surprised at all!

      For a few to live rich, all Malaysians have to die poor.

      End of the story, it is all about the cronies’ pocket!!

      Who care about our pockets?

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      • Dr M: Maintain AP system or Proton will die
        Malaysia Kini, Nov 28, 2013

        As Putrajaya takes baby steps to liberalise the automobile industry, former prime minister Dr Mahathir Mohamad warns that abolishing the Approved Permit (AP) system will cause the national car makers and bumiputera car retailers to suffer.

        Mahathir, the father of local car maker Proton Holdings Bhd, said foreign manufacturers would flood the car market without the AP system and sound the “death knell” of the national car industry.

        In a posting on his blog today, Mahathir said Malays and other bumiputeras were unable to enter the automotive business without the AP system as they were new to the business.

        “Business people do not like to do business with strangers. It is difficult to build trust with a business partner or an agent when you do not know their background.

        “Worse still, when you know the stranger has no capital and no experience,” Mahathir wrote.

        He explained that only a few Malays could afford to import used cars in the past and this had frustrated the implementation of the New Economic Policy objective of eliminating the identification of race with economic functions.

        “It was to overcome this that the government allowed the importation of Japanese reconditioned cars. APs were issued for the aspiring Malay auto dealers.

        “Now, second-hand Japanese cars are no longer imported. The AP system continued for new and second-hand special models. The demand is such that auto dealers are prepared to buy the APs at high prices,” Mahathir says in his blog.

        Other industries too have APs

        The AP system provides a special import duty waiver for automobiles. Qualified car dealers can obtain these documents from the International Trade and Industry Ministry.

        As part of their benefits, members of parliament are allocated one AP, regardless of the number of terms they have served, and this cannot be sold.

        Adding a racial slant to the AP system debate, Mahathir said there are similar systems for sugar, flour, rice and other items.

        “Some people have benefited from this system over the past 80 years. They have become billionaires. There has been no demand to stop these APs. The recipients live a charmed life.

        “If we must reconsider the AP system, it must include all the APs. The effect on our economy and trade balance must be accepted by us all,” adds Mahathir.

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        • Publish Names of AP holders on Jul 09, 2014 at 11:46 am

          Since this is of National Interest, can putrajaya publish the names of all the AP holders in Malaysia. Does Mustapa and MITI got the guts to do this?

          Lets be transparent about this. Let the public know the list of names, addresses and also how many APs each one in the list receive.

          I am sure many in PT would like to do a rombongan to visit the AP showroom. As far as I know, AP holders always jump from one place to another. One day they are here, another day they are in another bungalow.

          So, what factory and showroom have they invested it?

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          • Foreplay on Jul 09, 2014 at 1:58 pm

            Government releases list of Approved Permit holders
            The Star, Tuesday July 19, 2005

            KUALA LUMPUR: They were said to have had the most number of Approved Permits to import cars. It is now confirmed that Tan Sri Nasimuddin SM Amin, Datuk Syed Azman Syed Ibrahim, Datuk Mohd Haniff Abdul Aziz and Datuk Azzuddin Ahmad are the AP kings.

            According to the list of AP recipients released by the Government yesterday, the four – all involved in selling imported cars – were given more than 28,000 of the 67,158 APs allocated thus far this year.

            Each AP can be sold for between RM20,000 and RM30,000.

            The list, which is expected to be hotly debated at the 51st Umno General Assembly beginning Thursday, was released by the Prime Minister’s office amid the controversy surrounding the issuance of APs. (See list on Pages 30 and 31)

            Of the number, Nasimuddin, managing director of the Naza Motor Group, held 12,524 APs mainly under Naza Kia Sdn Bhd.

            For Nasimuddin, five of his six companies which received APs had other shareholders. His brother, Datuk SM Shalahuddin, was listed as a shareholder in five while in one company, Naza-Brabus Sdn Bhd, one Datin Zaleha Ismail is listed as the third shareholder.

            Syed Azman, Mohd Haniff and Azzuddin received a total of 15,759 APs under several companies.

            # The list also indicated the year from which the recipients had been getting APs, but did not state the total received over the years.

            The announcement came as a surprise as it was the first time that the names of AP recipients had been made public. Government leaders had earlier said that the policy of not revealing the names would remain.

            The AP issue made newspaper headlines when former prime minister Tun Dr Mahathir Mohamad said that the issuance of large numbers of these permits had led to unfair competition against national car Proton.

            Many importers, said Dr Mahathir, were also under-declaring the prices of cars.

            He had questioned how 20 companies were given the bulk of more than 50,000 APs when the Government’s objective was to assist as many bumiputra businessmen as possible by spreading out the issuance of such permits.

            The statement from the Prime Minister’s office accompanying the list said there were two types of APs – open APs and franchise APs.

            Under the open APs, the issuance of which was terminated in 1988, permit holders were allowed to import new and used cars from any source.

            Franchise APs are issued to companies which have exclusive agency agreements with foreign car manufacturers.

            The AP, issued by the Ministry of International Trade and Industry, was introduced in 1970 with the objective of providing opportunities for bumiputra entrepreneurs in the motor vehicle sector.

            Nasimuddin, who obtained his first AP in 1988, imports Kia, Mercedes-Benz, Peugeot, Ferrari, Mazda, Maserati, Rolls-Royce, Bentley and Brabus cars.

            Syed Azman and Mohd Haniff, both former ministry officers, emerged on the AP scene in 2002.

            Under two companies, Atlantic Star Auto Sdn Bhd and Auto Pacific Star Sdn Bhd, the former ministry officers obtained a further 5,669 APs to import Ford and Chevrolet cars. They also received APs to import Audi cars under Territorial Star Sdn Bhd.

            Other major recipients included:

            # HYUMAL Motor Sdn Bhd – owned by Berjaya Group Bhd, Sime Darby Bhd and Tan Sri Vincent Tan – to import Hyundai cars (18,573 APs);

            # CARTRADE Sdn Bhd, of which Datuk Ilyas Mohamed and Zahran Ahmad are the shareholders, to bring in BMW and MINI cars (11,237);

            # AMAZING Tempo Sdn Bhd, of which Tunku Datuk Zainol Tengku Izham and Ramzia Arshad are shareholders, to import Wald cars from Japan (12,025); and

            # ALADO Bumi Automobile Sdn Bhd – of which Datuk Ayob Saad, Tan Sri Cam Soh Thiam Hong and Soh Ah Gong – are shareholders to import Chery vehicles from China (12,496).

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          • Same L0r on Jul 09, 2014 at 2:27 pm

            Because some cars need “perlindungan”, every Malaysians have to suffer.

            Funny thing is this “perlindungan” car burning RM58k asking teen to design their 2020 car.

            They have no better place to waste money?

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          • Goyang Kaki Durian Runtuh on Jul 09, 2014 at 2:54 pm

            How shocking. And this figures are 10 years ago. Every year, the quantity of AP goes up. So by now, each of the AP Kings maybe receiving about 10x more than what they are getting in this 1985 list.

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          • Goyang Kaki Durian Runtuh on Jul 09, 2014 at 3:00 pm

            Gomen should release 2014 figures for AP. Dig deeper and you can see, all the AP guys are relatives of ministers and UMNO heads. They will either be the kakak ipar, abang ipar, abang saudara, kakak saudara, emak mertua, bapa mertua, kakak kepada kakak mertua, adik kepada adik mertua, cousin to abang mertua and the list goes on and on.

            Moral of story very simple. Everything for UMNO and the Ministers.

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          • Goyang Kaki Durian Runtuh on Jul 09, 2014 at 3:10 pm

            Dont worry the Minister now can use their toyboy Madani from MAI to confuse people further. Every year he will come out with analysis of all sorts of data and projections for the NAP But every year Madani will keep silent on AP abuse and Najib’s promise to reduce car prices.

            Don’t worry, this toyboy and his organisation of goons in MAI will soon come out with figures to prove to the rakyat that maintaining the AP system will benefit the car industry in Malaysia and it is essential for all Malaysians.

            I am waiting for MAI now to come and kipas Mustapa.

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          • kzm (Member) on Jul 09, 2014 at 9:07 pm

            no AP contribute 10% of total sales of previous yr

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        • Rakyat only susah want to buy car because we need AP. the Menteri and Ahli Parlimen all don’t need AP to buy luxury car.

          Why?

          Cause they get free luxury cars from towkays. Look at Nazri’s son, small time power also can get free Porsche Cayenne, can you imagine the other ministers and the more powerful ministers?

          All their cars sure free. From Porsche, Lamborghini, MacLaren, Pagani…..semua percuma.

          I wish I was a Menteri or Menteri’s son. Can use Cayenne free!

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      • Malaysia Lost Trillions of RM on Jul 09, 2014 at 8:14 am

        It is solely because of Mahathir and his AP kawan kawan that for 30 years, 30 million people in Malaysia suffer. Everybody’s biggest payment per month is their cars as we are paying overpriced cars.

        You see, in the 80s or even in the early 90s, you can get a brand new Nissan 130Y or a Toyota Corolla for RM20,000. Now, the same car is RM139,000.

        In truth, the past 30 years, car prices have come down a lot globally and have NOT gone up due to inflation. It has come down due to economies of scale achieved by car companies. This is proven by the fact that you can get a brand new purely Japan made top spec Toyota Camry 2.5 with 9 airbags in the US for US$22,000. That is about RM60,000. The normal B segment car like the Almera is sold in the US for US$9,999. (RM30,000). Mind you, this is after Toyota and Nissan of the US has made their margin and profits and the US government has collected taxes and duties from Nissan and Toyota. The direct from factory prices is far cheaper. UMW will get the above 2.5 Camry for US$15,000 from their principal in Japan. As our Camry is CKD, the price is even lower than that.

        So, in actual fact, most Malaysians can enjoy cheap and reasonable cars but because of AP and Mahathir, all the other car prices have been raised up tremendously to protect Proton and Mahathir’s AP cronies.

        Malaysians have already suffered so much. For 30 years, 30 million people suffer so much. We struggle paying for our high car prices all because of one man’s dream of benefiting his friends and relatives through the AP system.

        The AP system also cost us hundreds of billions in ringgit in investments from car companies who moved to Thailand and Indonesia. Car companies got fed up with Malaysia’s MITI for protecting Proton and telling other companies what to price their cars. They got sick and tired of the AP system and how genuine brands cannot get enough APs to import their cars in (like Mercedes, BMW and Honda).

        They thought that if they set up their brands and plants in Malaysia, they knew they had to share the pool of APs with the cronies and they knew 90% of all APs go to the cronies. They all moved their operations to Thailand making it the AutoCity of the world.

        Recently GM announced that they rolled out already 1 million cars from Thailand. Imagine if GM was in Malaysia and we taxed GM RM10,000 per car. Calculate that with 1 million cars. Just from GM alone, we lost Billions in USD

        Because of Mahathir and his AP system, we lost hundreds of billion of ringgit in investment and trillions of ringgit from jobs lost. If Malaysia was the autocity of Asia, hundreds of thousands of jobs would have been created for Malaysians. We lost all that. Trillions of Ringgit and hundreds of thousands of jobs. Now, Thailand is benefitting from this trillions lost.

        So, in summary, the 30 PEKEMA members have solely caused Malaysia to lose trillions in investments. What have they done? Nothing. Mustapa says about jobs lost by the AP cronies. I can confirm one thing, go into every AP crony car showroom, you hardly see 10 people working inside.

        Yes you read it clearly. Only about 10 people working. That includes the 4 Bangladeshi guys whose job is to wash the cars.

        Go around KL and Jalan Genting Klang and see, all the AP cronies have hardly 10 people working for them each (including non bumi boss, non bumi salesman and secretary). So, I don’t know what Mustapa is talking about.

        Remember one thing, other than Naza, each AP company have hardly 10 people working. So, if you do the maths, about 30 AP companies x 10 people = 300 people.

        Mustapa is protecting 300 people vs 30 million Malaysians suffer?

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        • Low Budget on Jul 09, 2014 at 10:10 am

          The Gomen don’t care if Malaysia be the Auto City of the world or not, but they are pretty proud that Tanjung Malim is the Auto City of Malaysia.

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          • Yong ZH on Jul 09, 2014 at 11:08 am

            Nothing to be proud about because our CKD prices are 3X the price of the same CBU unit. So, proud for what?

            Maybe proud to punish the rakyat to pay more. CKD is supposed to be cheaper but it is 3x more expensive than the equivalent imported CBU price.

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          • Ha ha ha. Cannot stop laughing. They like to blame others, say others are stealing their wealth away.

            Ha ha ha. Bangsa sendiri yang rompak lu lah. Your own kind are the ones robbing you.

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        • BigClap on Jul 11, 2014 at 8:39 pm

          I applauded you. This is so well said.

          ~ loud claps ~

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    • woot woot on Jul 08, 2014 at 8:22 pm

      Even more surprising, these BN crooks just give another excuse for the rakyat to kick ’em out come GE14

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      • Kzm Kzm Where are you? on Jul 09, 2014 at 11:25 am

        Where is the No 1 supporter of Gomen here? Many of us are waiting for kzm’s response telling us AP is important for building the country.

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        • Pondana on Jul 09, 2014 at 11:55 am

          KZM already kecut bola like Brazil and hide inside Ah Beng Support Proton kain sarong!

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        • kzm (Member) on Jul 09, 2014 at 8:42 pm

          i comment oso u dont understand..u panas plak nnti

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        • kzm (Member) on Jul 09, 2014 at 8:49 pm

          who say AP is important for building country? that was u…im not saying that..wat i can say dont support OpenAP holder by not buying grey import or recond car..support official distributor/maker and buy ckd car…u know that ckd car do not hav AP rite…out of 650k+ car sales last yrs oni 10% is AP car

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          • towar on Jul 11, 2014 at 1:28 pm

            according to your own figures, 65,000 car sales * rm 20k = rm 1.3 billion that is pure profit given to just a few umno AP kings. and that is only for 1 year.

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    • Burong on Jul 08, 2014 at 9:35 pm

      Me too, totally surprised of the news.

      Well, if they can stop subsidy the oil, probably the AP can be removed. Then we people can pay for the usage we use, fair? Or some guys like to keep some exotic car at home at cheaper price. We gotta choose.

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    • abuya123456789012 on Jul 09, 2014 at 7:59 am

      Clearly repeated malay words. So whatever comment on BN/Umno up and below of comment, I consider not from Malays. Dont try to convince the opposite because anyone can use any name, photo. Even whose being raided by police can refuse by 1001 reason.

      Dont want to bring racist issue here. Apologize. But what I am try to say is, if cannot abolish one lump sump, abolish slowly. Is not fair because government shall entitle 100% of its revenue, not partial and give to AP holder.

      Dont try to convince that after pakatan take over, no longer tax on car. You know what is reality up there actually so dont try to lie to others and to yourself. Dont try to say coz they dont get Federal Gov. Politician never honest and No.1 liar nowdays. They can simply say, kerajaan BN/UMNO dulu dah bawak lari semua duit bila dah tau nak kalah. Hahaha…. the 1001 reason already have dude if they cannot make their sweet promise before win election. See with your brain, not with your eyes and ears.

      Ground rule. Government needs money. If difficult to introduce new source, e.g. GST coz Malaysian not agree, then how to abolish existing system? Selling Petronas? Then get money. After that money finish then what things need to sell next? None. Get ready to be tax 40%++ of your income like Europe lah… Hahaha…. Politician already have their reason ma…

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      • Low Budget on Jul 09, 2014 at 10:16 am

        Agree with you, the rulers of the day is B.N. so we whack B.N. for lousy policy protecting their cronies, if P.R. come to rule the country, we will do like wise to whack the P.R. just like we whack them on the M.B. insistent of building toll road above the roof top of P.J. and Kinrara folks.

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      • Budak BN banyak Actif on Jul 09, 2014 at 10:47 am

        aiseh, this kzm and abuya, everything also, bring race into the picture. tak habis habis bring bangsa, skin colour, kaum, opposition into every posting.

        If you are so stupid to see it as a race issue keep silent. Diam.

        And please write better. Cannot understand your English at all. Wow, shockingly bad!

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      • whatashame on Jul 09, 2014 at 3:07 pm

        What cause the Government no money? Because they didn’t spend wisely and also corruptions during the purchases and projects. For example, if one of the government department can approved the stationery purchase of a normal plastics ball pen which costs RM12.00, how much money it has to tax back from Rakyat in order to maintain its overpriced expenses and operation?
        No doubt government needs money, but it must manage its own financial wisely. Rakyat money is hard earned money. Tax has increased but the public welfare and needs are not equivalent worthy and equally eligible to all. For example, BRM1 is encouraging the poor to remain poor because they will be entitled the incentive in the coming campaign. What is the point? Government should ensure everyone has stable earning to sustain their living happily and healthy.

        Malaysia is a resource rich country and the Government is able to generate revenue from other sources (from business instead of Rakyat). AP and its removal is a lie. The AP is solely benefit to the group of AP holders and its approver(s) which ends in personal pocket. Unless Government is willing to share that its earning from AP as one of the BIG portions from its gross revenue.

        Malaysia Boleh… kah? or Wawasan XXXX… bila?

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    • Mamuk on Jul 09, 2014 at 8:28 am

      Same story since 2000. They do all these studies and wayang kulit show to just humour the people la. Its never going to change… same with taxes and levies on cars…. removing them means substantial revenue loss to the govt… hence they will delay and not implement it…

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    • OMG.Difficult bcos of the $$$..jaga someone pocket..puihhh

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  • AcerMan on Jul 08, 2014 at 5:31 pm

    Guess the G don’t understand what is meant by ‘Economy of Scale’

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    • “The approved permit (AP) system for imported vehicles is not a popular one, as it brings little benefit to the majority of Malaysians” a true statement that all Malaysian and all our neighbours know, BUT this is what the umno sees…“When we look deeper, we find that it is a little difficult, there is an impact on employment and government revenue,” , meaning it hurts their own personal pocket., screw the rest of the country citizens. This is their own version of “Economy of Scale”
      AND YET still so many “blind” people still believe them….

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      • Low Budget on Jul 09, 2014 at 10:19 am

        Correction here. Some do received APs, these are those expatriates who worked overseas and want to return home with their cars purchase overseas.

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    • Reality on Jul 08, 2014 at 8:02 pm

      In fact they know better than us. Just that they are more concerned about their own pockets than the rakyat.

      Don’t you think the above is pure BS? Everyone knows the reason Naza got to where they are today.

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      • Pemadam on Jul 09, 2014 at 10:52 am

        Drug addicts are send to rehabs centre for pemulihan.

        AP kronies rasuah addicts sent to where for rehab? Pudu Jail?

        MACC should open new rehab centre for rasuah.

        should be called as Pusat Pemulihan Rasuah (Puperas).

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  • policeman on Jul 08, 2014 at 5:32 pm

    1 AP RM8K? How many APs the get? 50, 100?
    Put Key Mug.

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    • wkaka on Jul 08, 2014 at 9:33 pm

      Actually, they’re sold for >25k. Some are given 100-1000. Mostly all sold for themselves as they do not want any overhead.

      There are a few like NAZA that use it “properly”. Removing the AP system will anger a lot of cronies as they will actually have to work for their money instead.

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      • Mamuk on Jul 09, 2014 at 8:33 am

        Yeap!… Govt issue paper to cronies for free… and cronies sell for 20-25K each. Some get 5K – 10K APs a year….

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    • Low Budget on Jul 09, 2014 at 10:21 am

      One AP RM 8K? This is too cheap-leh bradder.

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  • Black Dog on Jul 08, 2014 at 5:36 pm

    Hahahahahahahahaha………………

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  • Then don’t PROMISE us that you are going to abolish the AP system. Keep the AP system Mustapa, seriously.

    There’s a new word for FFG, it’s not fong fei gei (go fly kite), it’s call a Flip Flop Government.

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    • Anti CO2 on Jul 08, 2014 at 7:40 pm

      Pls change the G. I beg you PLS…

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    • Gargantia on Jul 08, 2014 at 8:07 pm

      And with some ppl so proud Return of Tun DrM.
      Those air-head, thanks for supporting DrM return…

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  • guilt79 on Jul 08, 2014 at 5:38 pm

    Cut the crap of not easy to abolish. More like not easy to find another side income to substitute AP selling.

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  • sudonano (Member) on Jul 08, 2014 at 5:40 pm

    Difficult? What’s so difficult?

    The thing with AP is that it is limiting healthy competition in our industry. And more importantly, it’s driving up prices too, say what you want about so called “price reduction” but in actual fact, it’s more of the introduction of really sparse basic models that reduce the perceived price of a model, but those basic models are really empty, like the cheapest Honda City and Nissan Almera which has no ESP, and in the latter, a single airbag.

    It also hurts the premium market too, especially those who do bring in decent cars with long features and good value, they get bottlenecked as they run out of the APs to import those units in, leading to insanely long waiting periods. An example would be the fantastic 1 year waiting period on the A class and CLA class! When I heard of the waiting list, I myself decided to look elsewhere as waiting for a car for 1 year seems ridiculous.

    Basically, no one benefits, not the manufacturers, nor the consumers, but rather the G and the AP Kings like Naza. Of course, Naza has become a very successful conglomerate in the last 10 years since they started with Kia, and have turned around both Kia and Peugeot, failed brands under the old distributor. Especially considering a fair number of Kia models like the Optima K5, Sportage, Sorento are CBU, and they are priced surprisingly cheap, other competitors can’t match on price cause of the lack of APs for them too.

    It’s a vicious cycle and needs to stop.

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    • think on Jul 08, 2014 at 8:21 pm

      Wat u said is exactly correct. The achievement of NAZA is nothing is to be proud off. They achieved their success by benefiting from the protectionism given to them in the name ap’s which is channeled to Bumi’s by the gment. We call it success if you could achieve something in a fair environment. Not only this ap system in benefiting certain individuals and also it points out descrimination among races which ruins the integration among different ethnics..think

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      • Naza's Free Billions on Jul 09, 2014 at 11:19 am

        Naza get a few thousand free AP per year. If one AP is RM30k to RM50k, that alone is more than
        RM1 billion ringgit free (per year)

        If you get free billions per year like that, of course lah you can set up big showroom across Federal highway and all that.

        Nothing to be proud of Naza. Infact, Naza should be ashamed as the free money is from our taxpayers pocket.

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    • D.I.Y on Jul 08, 2014 at 9:48 pm

      Well said.. you deserve a clap

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    • Mamuk on Jul 09, 2014 at 8:35 am

      Difficult as in, Cronies earning millions a year… take it away… no more money… cronies cannot drive Ferraris and Porsches and live in bungalows, have homes in developed nations, eat fine foods etc… thts how difficult it is for them… Lol

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  • Ah Beng King on Jul 08, 2014 at 5:43 pm

    Damn BN cronies, go eat monkey’s feces la

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  • jolly_idiot (Member) on Jul 08, 2014 at 5:43 pm

    Fu yoh. Power of Dr. M memang kuat giler.

    Baru je take over Proton. Skrang dah announce jangan mimpi abolish AP.

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  • Great Hocus on Jul 08, 2014 at 5:44 pm

    its called TKSS … tok kok sing song

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  • Ah Beng King on Jul 08, 2014 at 5:46 pm

    These cronies are bloody rich enough already go invest in something else la. LAZY F**KS!!

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  • Jimmy on Jul 08, 2014 at 5:52 pm

    BS

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  • ermmmmmmmm………….

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  • Maseratits on Jul 08, 2014 at 5:54 pm

    Delay delay delay with so many excuses. If you don’t plan to abolish AP at all, then just don’t say anything about abolishing it lah!

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    • kadajawi (Member) on Jul 08, 2014 at 7:39 pm

      Say abolish AP to get votes la. Once election over, forget about it.

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  • why would u want to protect 100 companies of AP holders but not 29million malaysians?

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    • kadajawi (Member) on Jul 08, 2014 at 7:40 pm

      Yeah. And say 100 companies to make it sound like many jobs are lost. How many people would lose their job due to abolishing AP? And wouldn’t they be able to find other work? If not, do they even deserve to have a job?

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  • Bullshit on Jul 08, 2014 at 6:01 pm

    “We want to help the Malays, but they don’t want to help themselves”… should be “We want to help the UMNO Malays, but they are just too lazy to start a company and sell it to get fast money”….

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  • meejawa on Jul 08, 2014 at 6:02 pm

    RM1billion collected over 3 years, so if AP were to be abolished the Gov just need to find RM333million.

    Let’s see : Sugar subsidy removed save how much, fuel subsidy reduced save how much, electricity increase earn how much, toll increase earn how much..none of these are sufficient to cover RM333million? Fine, then why go buy one toilet for RM30k, torchlight for RM2k, laptop for RM20k..???

    So free want air time so song song say “we’re going to study AP issue etc etc” then go silent.” Study every year every month every year also same conclusion, and these study free ar???? WTF waste salive only laaaa…

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  • truely malaysian on Jul 08, 2014 at 6:03 pm

    difficult or don’t want, there is no such thing as difficult…

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    • torque on Jul 09, 2014 at 9:23 am

      Bro, actually there’s no such thing as difficult bro…it just “NAK atau TAK NAK” jer! Bloody lazy useless cronies!!

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    • torque on Jul 09, 2014 at 9:25 am

      *Agreed bro,…

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  • Vader (Member) on Jul 08, 2014 at 6:05 pm

    To abolish the AP, the only way is change the government!!!
    Besides, don’t using Malays as an excuse or backup again and try to trigger the racism issue, it should be direct refer to corrupted UXNO!!!

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  • Obviously (Member) on Jul 08, 2014 at 6:08 pm

    Sigh…this bit of news makes me really frustrated inside. It is like they’re preparing a story that they can use to delay the abolishing of the AP system again so that when Dec 31, 2015 comes around, they can say “we told you that it is hard. give us more time.”

    Well, on the bright side: them realizing that abolishing the AP system has far reaching consequences does indicate that at least they’re doing . . . SOMETHING. Maybe this time they will finally come through? Wishful thinking, I know, but these are dark times and it’s better to keep our spirits up than constantly lamenting this and that.

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  • AP PEKEMA PENIPU on Jul 08, 2014 at 6:12 pm

    What utter rubbish. You should this like the crime of murder or rape. Abolish it now itself. Because it causes hardship for 30 million Malaysians for 30 individual PEKEMA members to get rich. These 30 PEKEMA members have been living off 30 million Malaysians for over 20 years now. It is time to stop this rape.

    Don’t give us that lies. The whole purpose of the AP system was to benefit the Bumiputera penetrate the car industry. As we know 99% of PEKEMA members sell ALL their APs to the chinaman. Go to any PEKEMA car showroom, can you ever see a Bumiputera working there? Not even one. So, what is the purpose of the AP system? The original intent and purpose and the spirit of the AP system has been defeated.

    The 1 billion collected by the government is nothing. Open the AP system to the public, you will get more. Sell the AP permit Rm50,000 also, the general public will buy it anytime. Let us go back to the 80s, where we ourselves can import our own luxury cars. With this method, government will make not just 1 billion but a few billion from the public. Now, all profit is by the 20 PEKEMA members who are reaping in the billions.

    Mustapa also has not addressed the fact that 99% of PEKEMA members clock down the odometers of the cars they bring down when in actual fact, the cars have clocked over 100,000KM. They often tell you the cars have only clocked 5000KM on it. The buyer loses out because some of the cars have clocked over 300,000KM on it being ex-rental cars. So, the buyer has to pay hundreds of thousands in parts replacement because parts definitely would be worn out when a car clocks such high mileage.

    Why isn’t Mustapa doing something about it? Nearly 99% of all PEKEMA members clock down their cars thus misrepresenting to the public that the imported cars are showroom condition and virtually brand new. It is worse when they send it to the car spa and change new tyres. The car looks brand new. But deep inside the engine, nearly every part needs to be replaced.

    So why is Mustapa allowing this to happen? Already 20 years this is happening. MITI knows about this. Mustapa also knows about this. But Mustapa is scared to rock the boat. Because all AP holders are all Mahathirs buddies and if you rock Mahathir’s boat, he has got files on each Minister and their dirt. He will release the dirt and skeletons of the person who rocked his rice bowl or his buddy’s rice bowl.

    So, this vague behaviour of MITI will go on forever and the AP system will go on forever.

    We cannot go on foreever where 30 million Malaysians are subsidising 30 PEKEMA members who are getting richer and richer with billions and billions.

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  • Leon Loke on Jul 08, 2014 at 6:14 pm

    Government would not loose revenue due to abolishing AP. They can still impose import duty on cars. Who is making money from AP? AP is just a piece of paper issued by the government to allow certain quarter to import vehicle. The value of the vehicle is being declared at lower price and government tax the vehicle based on the declared value. AP were sold in the market ranging from RM20k – 50k in the market to those who wants to import cars by those who receive AP from the government.

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  • The Truth about AP system on Jul 08, 2014 at 6:19 pm

    Dr M is wrong. AP is not RM8000. AP is about RM50,000 each. The AP system was born to help the Bumiputera penetrate the car sales industry but we see, AP PEKEMA members are not ONLY selling their APs buta buta BUT also modifying the odometer and shortchanging Malaysians.

    Every single PEKEMA member brings in cars from UK and Japan, 99% of which are ex car rental cars, they have been trashed and trashed with high mileage. Then our PEKEMA thieves bring it down to Malaysia, quickly clock it down to 5000KM and lie to you and tell you it is a showroom car with very low mileage. This act is worse than selling APs!

    Most of these cars brought in by PEKEMA members have clocked over 200,000 KM but when you buy it, it shows 5000KM or less.

    You are the loser because when you buy a car that has truly clocked over 100,000KM, you will spend a bomb changing worn out parts. As for luxury cars like Porsche, Mercedes and BMW, you can be spending over RM100,000 just in changing worn out parts alone. Maybe even few hundred thousand ringgit when Ferrari or McLaren is concerned.

    There is no way to tell that the car brought in is high mileage. Because the PEKEMA AP thieves send the car to car spas who do a great job washing and touching up the car to look ultra brand new. The also change brand new tyres.

    9 out of 10 end user buyers of AP PEKEMA cars get a rude shock when they take their cars in to authorised delaerships to get their cars checked. Once they plug in their proprietory diagnostic machines, the cars show even 300,000 KM clocked on it. The buyer gets a rude shock because when he bought his Alphard or Porsche, the car shows it has clocked less than 10,000KM.

    Ask most AP PEKEMA car buyers who have actually sent their cars in to authorised dealerships like Porsche Glenmarie or Mercedes Malaysia. All of them will verify one thing to you, they got a rude shock to see the mileage of their cars in the few hundred thousand region. And they felt so so so so cheated.

    They get a further rude shock to find out their car was an ex rental car that has been trashed and trashed and trashed and when the local Malaysian buyer buys it, he thinks its showroom condition with less than 10,000KM done on it.

    There is no avenue to check the true mileage before purchase because due to the UK’s Data Protection Act, even with the Car’s VIN (Vehicle Identification Number), the Malaysian buyer cannot verify the actual mileage before purchase. Only way is to buy the car from the PEKEMA member in Malaysia, then take the car in to the official dealership in Malaysia to check. By then, it is too late. You already bought the car.

    Don’t underestimate this. A car that has done few hundred thousand KM has so much of parts to be replaced. You think buying that Alphard for RM200,000 is cheap. Wait till you spend another RM100,000 on parts replacement alone in 1 or 2 years time.

    Those wanting to buy recon, try asking the seller where the warranty and service booklet is. The seller will lie through their teeth telling you it has no booklet eventhough the car is 2 years old and it has a 5 year warranty in Japan or UK. Surely if it is owned by an individual in the UK he would have kept his service booklet when he sold the car since it is under warranty. But not a single one of our AP PEKEMA thieves can give the service history and booklet to show the history of the car.

    The AP PEKEMA thieves really make a huge profit. You see, in the UK, the price of a car is determined by the mileage and not by the year of make. Unlike Malaysia, the year of the make determines the price. So, for example, a 2010 Mercedes E250 with 20,000KM on it will cost far more expensive than a 2013 E250 with 200,000KM on it in the UK

    Our PEKEMA thieves buy the high mileage cars for dirt cheap because in the UK the high mileage cars are sold super cheap. Eventhough the year of make is 2013 or 2014. Somemore, ex rental cars ares old even cheaper. Companies like Avis and Hertz dispose of their Porsches, Mercedes and BMWs for super low prices as they have clocked few hundred thousand KM on it.

    Then the AP PEKEMA theieves bring the high mileage cars here in Malaysia, modify the odometer to say, below 10,000KM and sell it. You the buyer are so happy thinking you got a 2013 car with 10,000KM it. But in truth, you just bought a lemon that has 200,000KM on it.

    Would you be happy buying a car that shows on the odometer 6000KM when in actual fact it has clocked over 100,000KM on it?

    Mustapa is more concerned about the crony AP companies and employees but NOT BOTHERED about the 30 million Malaysians who suffer with high car prices.

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    • turboman on Jul 08, 2014 at 7:02 pm

      When I was shopping for a recon car, I made sure thr car was inspected by a trusted mechanic with a diagnostic machine before I signed on. No surprise out of 20 shops I went to, 18 didnt want to do that, a sign that something dodgy was going on.

      If all buyers do that, then the sellers would have no choice but to stop doing that. No inspection no purchase.

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    • Albert Lee on Jul 08, 2014 at 9:26 pm

      Bradder,You qualify for the “Nobel Price in Auto Journalism”.
      Our local university professors can’t match your meticulous research into this AP scam.
      Well done.
      Long live your factfinding research to shame those corrupted politicians.

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    • sudonano (Member) on Jul 08, 2014 at 10:55 pm

      You sir, or madam, deserve an award. What you have said is quite true, especially with some of these units which have been brought in through AP Kings. In fact, some of them have also had funny wiring modifications done too locally before they are sold!

      It is one of the reasons till today I decided not to get a recon Cayenne no matter how tempting the price is, rather get a smaller but brand new car that was officially brought in by a local dealer, or at least a certified pre-owned.

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    • Dont blame PEKEMA or Miti, blame the Chinese car dealer, coz they dont dare to boycot the AP, I mean dont buy AP anymore, and you will see the piece of AP can now be use for wrapping nasi lemak.., ha, ha, stupid chinese car dealer, that simple thing also don’t know how to do.

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      • Yong ZH on Jul 09, 2014 at 11:04 am

        Racist comment. nothing to do with race here. Do you blame the girl who walked with tight sexy clothing and got raped?

        Of course you blame the rapist. But you are dumb. You blame the girl and not the rapist.

        Bang, try not to be racist in this forum. Keep the forum clean.

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  • TopsyBoXyTurvy on Jul 08, 2014 at 6:19 pm

    the corruption is the real biggest loss of revenue…not demolishing the AP system…Very difficult this, difficult that….
    Another round of Talk C_O_C_K.

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  • ToBeExtended on Jul 08, 2014 at 6:20 pm

    It simply means AP system will be extended into our next generation.

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  • someguyonthenet on Jul 08, 2014 at 6:22 pm

    “We want to help the Malays, but they don’t want to help themselves”. I guess if you’re not a Malay you are either pretty much screwed or you’re are well-off.

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  • Jack Maverick on Jul 08, 2014 at 6:26 pm

    Where can I get this RM8k AP? I would like to use it and get myself a MX5 in the near future..

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  • Yes more study, for benefit of some, most of us must suffer..

    I would proposed, implement first and see the shortcomings.

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  • Just issue AP based on open tender, govt income of RM1 billion can easily be double, more employment opportunities, and more more people pay income tax

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    • klata-klata on Jul 09, 2014 at 11:24 pm

      I don’t mind even if it is open tender limited to Malays only.

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  • ben yap on Jul 08, 2014 at 6:31 pm

    “When we look deeper, we find that it is a little difficult, there is an impact on employment and government revenue”.

    Bullshit excuse. It should be ““When we look deeper, we find that it is a little difficult, there is an impact on employment and government revenue and also our own “pocket money”.

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    • Because the pocket is so DEEP, so difficult to stop issue AP to cronies

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  • Dear Cronies…u guys never get tired sucking blood from rakyat…

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  • difficult for government to abolish AP policy, but easy for us to change government

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  • Motorhead (Member) on Jul 08, 2014 at 6:47 pm

    Oh my..

    Unfortunately. . AP holders sell cars at taxed price. . Only slightly lower. Siapa untung sini? People? Gov? But tax free for AP holders.. Revenue what?.. oohh.. itu “Orang” revenue. .

    I never ever think buy AP cars… make me sick.

    Puiihh.

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  • skyjuice on Jul 08, 2014 at 7:05 pm

    Dear minister, What did you meant by difficult? You meant your are not capable? Fear that the move will affect your business partner? Well, there’s always someone else dare enough to do your job.

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  • Samad Jain on Jul 08, 2014 at 7:05 pm

    if tomorrow is GE, surely this joker Mustapa will say AP will be abolished.

    Too bad there are still many dunggu Malaysian that believe such joker and voted these jokers as their Govt. Padan muka for kena screwed….now until their next generation…

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  • anonymous on Jul 08, 2014 at 7:08 pm

    This is not about cronies… its about the stupidity of a system that DrM implemented without knowing where or when to end. DrM put into practice a system without a clear and practical idea (not just an idea on paper) of what to achieve. Now he is blaming the receipients of not becoming like naza. Should have given all ap recipients a timeline to develop themselves into something else such as distributors or assembliers. Did DrM tell the receipients to become distributors or assembliers when the end of a certain term? Then he should pulled out the system whether they achieved it or not at time of deadline.

    So now when he heads p1… things don’t go like he planned… who is he gonna blame? the people for not supporting…? not buying into his vision of without a real idea what to achieve…

    Govt should not be densed… SET WHAT U ASPECT AP HOLDERS TO ACHIEVE AND PUT A DEADLINE NOW..!

    p.s. bullcrap that some they selling ap at only 8k…. duhh.

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    • jin ko la ku on Jul 09, 2014 at 12:13 pm

      if timeline given..some people would say. “haiyaa why give many years contract..cronies punya kerja ni.” pusing sana sini juga.nothing u can actually do to satisfy these tamak people.they just become noisy coz they didn’t get the business. But when they do…they will also act like these AP holders lah. :D

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    • jin ko la ku on Jul 09, 2014 at 12:45 pm

      if timeline given..some people would say. “haiyaa why give many years contract..cronies punya kerja ni.” pusing sana sini juga.nothing u can actually do to satisfy these tamak people.they just become noisy coz they didn’t get the business. But when they do…they will also act like these AP holders lah. :D ffghf

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  • Carlover on Jul 08, 2014 at 7:10 pm

    What so difficult??? Gov Malaysia!!! do you hear from rakyat on what we need? We want rakyat got jobs and able to buy quality car. We want solution and not reason. We want Gov not just sleeping and given rubbish reason everyday. If you cant do mean you all are not capable to be minister. what a easy tasks. Unless there got hidden agenda which unable to to let go. Pls dont talk rubbish… You all delay Malaysia to moving forward…

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  • Its not just the AP. Its the tax bracket and the greedy people up there. What ever system introduced, as long as there are greedy, blood sucking people up there, don’t dream of driving the so called luxury car. This is not menteri berjiwa rakyat. This is menteri membunuh jiwa rakyat.

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  • banyak pandai on Jul 08, 2014 at 7:21 pm

    8k per ap you collected 1billion revenue and very concerned the employees of the 100 affected companies instead of the majority rakyats. knn what utter bullshit is this.

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  • Come on Mr Minister.Do what Dr M once did.Publish the 100+ AP holders with the name of shareholders too.
    Some are umno ketua bahagian,and tell us how much contributions these people gave umno and bn.

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  • erwinkarim on Jul 08, 2014 at 7:23 pm

    “It seems impossible until it’s done” – Nelson Mandela

    Loss of revenue from import tax can be countered by having the fuel at market prices too, like the rest of the world

    the government may moan that it will lose RM1 billion from AP and RM7 billion from abolishment of import duties, but they could gain RM24 billion if they don’t pay for fuel subsidy…

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  • Archangel on Jul 08, 2014 at 7:31 pm

    If you say it’s difficult to abolish AP policy then don’t bring up topic about abolishing AP policy. Think before you speak because you have a brain in your head not a brain at your knee.

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  • transformer on Jul 08, 2014 at 7:38 pm

    it’s either buy new car from franchise holder or a second hand car(franchise unit too)…..

    just don’t buy recond cars!
    and let the whole PUKIMA AP industry slump!

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  • RM1 Billion loss in revenue has to be recovered from somewhere….?
    Isn’t it common sense that G make more revenue from car taxes when more people buy cars from the approved dealership? Surely when people cannot buy cars from grey market they will have to buy from dealership!
    …..Anyway, may be the company awarded to do “the in-depth study on the impact of the termination of Open APs” hasn’t figured out how to qualify this…….It is too complicated to do this assessment….

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  • Guan Yin Maa on Jul 08, 2014 at 7:55 pm

    Pure idiot. I wonder how our minister get their job. And I even wonder did they even really finish their university studies ? Perhaps SPM ?

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  • KillBox1Alpha on Jul 08, 2014 at 7:59 pm

    Usual crap..why kill a goose that lay golden eggs…this is absolutely rotten to the core

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  • Iniesta leong on Jul 08, 2014 at 8:01 pm

    When I look deeper, I find it is difficult to understand why we have such idiot minister. Rm 1 billion is how much for the govt ?, it is a little money for the govt comparatively . The whole ap system only benefited those clony and the rest of the Malaysian suffer

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  • Let's make it simple on Jul 08, 2014 at 8:03 pm

    Do this or your out on the next election. Remember your campaign promises. Who’s going to believe your BS now.

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  • submarine on Jul 08, 2014 at 8:04 pm

    How bout the millions of malaysians? Who’s gonna help them? I’ve frens (all races included) who are poor but making an honest living and paying taxes, who’s gonna help them? Just say la u wanna continue to be corrupted, to carry on wt that self fulfilled policy in order to feed the few elites, in the expense of the rakyat!! Difficult my arse, there’s no such thing as difficult.

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  • Peter on Jul 08, 2014 at 8:09 pm

    Pertubuhan Usahawan Generasi MudaH Berjaya Malaysia
    a k a
    Malaysia Easily-Become-Rich Entrepreneur Association

    perfectly fit into this blood sucking AP scheme

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  • think on Jul 08, 2014 at 8:13 pm

    ok let the ap’s in position as it is now. But open up the quota of ap’s. let the ap’s to be applied and owned by any individuals without looking into the race. The nation is growing with intelligence and financial power. There is no need anymore to give any special benefits to any single community. Rather focus on new ideas and advancements to restructure the automotive industry and the road and transport system. Be fare with all races. Then we could attain a peaceful mlaysia.

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  • patriot on Jul 08, 2014 at 8:22 pm

    Bullshiat.. When AP is demolished, it will spur car manufacturers market. New car registration will rise and 2nd hand var value will be better, it will certainly grow the middle income market. Although grey imports will be impacted, the demand for workers in the manufacturing will rise for new cars. The NAP and dream of Malaysia to be one of ASEAN cars exporter will be realized. Those big AP companies has grewn to be larger than car seller, they have diversified their businesses, by now they will be able to stand without further help from the government. The objectives of helping the locals has been met, abolished the AP already!

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  • old dog on Jul 08, 2014 at 8:42 pm

    of course this will become the next promise coming the next election that will abolish again!! or else they run out of staff to promise and make the believer believe again…Didnt everyone forget MRT also promise since pak-la time when cutting subsidy ?
    and the backup plan is always keep importing bangla for voting….

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  • As long as it can make Malay rich, i’m support G…

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    • Sorry? Err… Oni a handful of rich Malays while majority is still living in the hut believing that G is helping them. Puih…. Y’all love easy money? No wonder y’all cant strive, even foreign investment company dont dare to hire y’all as factory operator. Attitude issue. Cant blame that foreign labor influxing Malaysia. There is a reason for that. :)

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    • Sorry? Err… Oni a handful of rich Malays while majority is still living in the hut believing that G is helping them. Puih…. Y’all love easy money? No wonder y’all cant strive, even foreign investment company dont dare to hire y’all as factory operator. Attitude issue. Cant blame that foreign labor influxing Malaysia. There is a reason for that. :)

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  • albag on Jul 08, 2014 at 8:54 pm

    difficult to abolish songlap lettew…

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  • Fly High on Jul 08, 2014 at 9:07 pm

    Before Election..Yes, G can make car much more cheaper by abolish the AP..(copy from PR)

    After Election..No, G cant abolish AP with 1001 reason..need further study..took 5 years to study right before election..

    Everthing will be the same if Monkey rules the Gov..sighh

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  • Albert Lee on Jul 08, 2014 at 9:13 pm

    The rakyat lodged an ADUAN for unlicensed hawkers.
    The reply…..Kami akan memantau.
    Dr.M commented the AP system backfired.
    The Reply…..Kami akan memantau.
    The Diplomat from the army committed crime in New Zealand.
    The Reply….Kami akan memantau.
    Bradder,the MAGIC word in Malaysia Boleh Land is “memantau”.
    AP cronies live in 7 star luxury while we car buyers pay huge taxes while those in power says”Kami akan memantau,sabar lah.”

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  • This is the reason why their kind nvr taste success. Their tidak apa attitude and also keep finding excuses will bring them to no where. Sooner they will be stepped. Goons, what so diff? Not enough duit raya? Help malays.. Puih…. It seems the minority is the one who help the malays. U oni care for ur pocket. Haarttkk ptuih!!

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  • Xmetall on Jul 08, 2014 at 9:15 pm

    First time see all commenters united. Even the gahmen cybertroopers feel stoopid and embarassed to comment, when driving their unsafe and overpriced Poton to work

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  • Tiger on Jul 08, 2014 at 9:21 pm

    They selling recon luxury cars at NEW car prices, one model (new) Merc hybrid authorised dealer price Rm400k+, same price wit the recon old model..imagine the profit margin

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  • squall_shinoda on Jul 08, 2014 at 9:27 pm

    Economy of scale does not simply mean merely increasing the output in order to drive the cost down; you have to study your market price before increasing the output capacity, or else you’ll end up losing money instead of making money, as you need to sell a lot more before you can at least balik modal. In other words, it can be suicidal as well.

    In Proton’s case, Proton is actually producing less than 50% of its maximum capacity. Therefore, Proton cannot simply increase production without making sure that all products are sold without any leftovers. In order to do so, Proton has to beef up the export, as our local market is almost saturated. Other carmakers have far less production capacity than Proton, so that can be a good explanation on why a typical Honda or Toyota cost more than a Proton.

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  • pirate on Jul 08, 2014 at 9:27 pm

    In the game of APs there are many powerful warlords from the ruling party…with just as damning lobbying powers each time the deadline is up. They are bigger than anyone in the MITI top post, Mustapa included. So we can be expecting perpetual AP policy for imported cars my fellow Bolehlanders!

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  • Bataman on Jul 08, 2014 at 9:44 pm

    Hopefully, one day, Mamakthir will be kill in a road accident by a Proton Saga which doesn’t have VSC because Malaysian life is too cheap and can’t afford anything better thanks AP and Mamakthir’s Proton syiok sendiri company.

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    • kadajawi (Member) on Jul 09, 2014 at 3:07 am

      Actually Proton is one of the better companies out there, and they are forcing other companies to improve. The Preve and Suprima all come with ESP. The Savvy replacement model comes with ESP, though maybe not in all specs, we’ll see. Thus the GSC based Saga replacement should also have ESP. It’s only the older models which aren’t so good. Compare that to Toyota, which introduces the “NEW” Vios without ESP, regardless of the specs.

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      • kudajawi on Jul 09, 2014 at 2:06 pm

        Proton forcing others to improve? Fark you.

        How about forcing rakyat to pay high car taxes to protect Proton? Fark you again.

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        • kadajawi (Member) on Jul 10, 2014 at 4:12 am

          Proton is paying the same high taxes. Outside of Malaysia Protons are cheaper thanks to lower car taxes.

          The reason why taxes are high is not Proton, the reason is the government needing more tax income. The taxes would stay high without Proton, that doesn’t make a difference. The government can’t survive without car taxes. (And even if they drop those taxes, they will raise income tax, GST, …).

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  • Thats d reason their kind will never strive in this land. Everything find excuses, want easy money but dont wanna work hard. Sooner or later they will be slaves in their own land. All caused by the G. Allah bless y’all.

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  • APrules on Jul 08, 2014 at 9:47 pm

    The AP policy system should continue. Don’t hear the rest of these anti-AP people. Boring.

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    • kadajawi (Member) on Jul 09, 2014 at 3:04 am

      Ah, there’s a crony here. Stone him.

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      • Stone him? No worse. Make him drive a old overpriced Potong for the rest of his life.

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  • Ya right on Jul 08, 2014 at 10:07 pm

    affecting government revenue or just those AP holders pocket money?

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  • Right Hand Drive on Jul 08, 2014 at 10:20 pm

    They are addicted to honey, they will not accept anything not sweet!

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  • Tun Doctor M on Jul 08, 2014 at 10:30 pm

    Government made a promise to do something after the GE so they just announce the 2015 and 2020 date. They say they will do a study on it but in actual fact nothing has been done. I have gone into meeting with government officials in the past and before we finish discussing our agenda or any conclusion, there will always be a tea lady who walks in with a plethora of kuih muih and teh tarik and that marks the end of the meeting. Even with outstading issues to discuss all of them just give the tidak apa attitude as if someone else will solve the issues for them.

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  • undilabnlagi on Jul 08, 2014 at 10:33 pm

    Tu LA..undi LA bn lagi Dan lagi Dan lagi……hangpa yg undi depa pun serupa bingai mcm depa 2 x 5

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    • AripSon on Jul 08, 2014 at 11:25 pm

      Setiap kali bercakap – mereka berbohong;
      Pabila berjanji (dalam PRU tadi dah janji…) – mereka mungkiri;
      Amanah yg dipegang sekarang – sudah mereka khianati;
      Bila kita memperingatkan mereka – mereka melenting melampaui batas lalu mengugut dgn bulan May!

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  • Hotdays on Jul 08, 2014 at 10:44 pm

    Not easy to abolish AP policy wtf.? It’s more like not EASY TO STOP THOSE MONEY SUCKERS. Just admit it BN.

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  • troy36 on Jul 08, 2014 at 10:56 pm

    Mahathir and cronies fuu key mug

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  • Semi-Value (Member) on Jul 08, 2014 at 11:04 pm

    eh i kena tipu ini, told me cancel…so i gave back my AP….come on la….i want my AP back or else i go to DAP

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  • Steve Kok on Jul 08, 2014 at 11:10 pm

    All thanks to the mamak who had a vision to have Malaysian made cars.
    AP is here to stay, Until BN close shop.

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  • karipap on Jul 08, 2014 at 11:31 pm

    phewww…nasib baik aku beli brand new ferrari turbo boost 2005i pintu dua kepak atas. kalau aku beli recon, kaya la mustapaaa. bulan puasa pon nak kencing rakyat

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  • Automagic on Jul 09, 2014 at 12:25 am

    Apa lagi AP holder mau?

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    • jin ko la ku on Jul 09, 2014 at 12:40 pm

      mau semua kontraktor yang kasi suap duit sama org lain and then pretend they are innnocent and say..hey “saya bagi sajaa tada paksa dia ambil pun horrr…apa pasal tahan saya?”

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  • Ah Wai on Jul 09, 2014 at 12:46 am

    What did BN promise before GE13 about car prices ?
    Now after GE13, they dont give a damn. Good for those soohai that voted for them. The cronies all ‘ kaya kaya belaka ‘ while those soohai ‘ miskin miskin derita ‘. GOOD !

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  • Wee Fuk Yew on Jul 09, 2014 at 3:01 am

    How do you tell when a politician is lying? Whenever the move their lips.

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  • kadajawi (Member) on Jul 09, 2014 at 3:12 am

    Take an example from China: A few have to suffer for the greater good of the majority of people.

    A few people who have profited ridiculously for many years would suffer… so what? Abolish AP. Now.

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    • kudajawi on Jul 09, 2014 at 2:18 pm

      Abolish lah. Proton sure die next day.

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      • kadajawi (Member) on Jul 10, 2014 at 4:14 am

        Why does Dr. M, head of Proton, say AP was a bad idea and should go away? Does he want to kill his own company? Is he such a bad business man? AP does not profit Proton at this point, otherwise he would not have said it.

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  • if can’t abolish, reduce the numbers by 25% yearly is good enough.

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  • Steve Jobs on Jul 09, 2014 at 7:59 am

    PEKEME kata jangan.Jangan persoal.LEL.

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  • wow…the decision forever going in circles…this is circus!

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  • Consolidate on Jul 09, 2014 at 9:03 am

    My suggestions:
    1. Abolish the APs
    2. Lower the taxes of all vechicles inclusive of commercial. Max at 20% in total
    3. Reduce the road tax to RM100 per year regardless of CC
    4. Abolish the highway toll
    5. G should cover the above so called “losses” by abolish the oil subsidy, go according to market price

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  • kl fella on Jul 09, 2014 at 9:20 am

    if the G runs the AP system properly and as intended, it is a very good tool for revenue to all parties.

    it’s just like how Singapore implements their COE in a way, just that COE is via open tender.

    AP doesn’t need to be open tender (if it yes, the better!), but those who abuse it must be removed from receiving free APs and only reward those who are really working hard to make full use of the AP. or maybe introduce 30% quota for non-bumi?

    just some suggestions because i can foresee AP is here to stay in bolehland!

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  • sick&tired on Jul 09, 2014 at 9:37 am

    pls show me the person selling AP for RM8k! I also want to buy. They are selling 1 AP for RM25k! And thats considered cheap! If you guys really know how people take advantage of the AP’s, I think it will be the end of the UMNO government!

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  • Abdullah on Jul 09, 2014 at 9:53 am

    Malays are their own worst enemy.
    We should stop blaming other races.

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  • nobrand on Jul 09, 2014 at 10:02 am

    I think we have to be rational. Naza is an example how AP system should work. At least they are very serious in automotive industry. They built factory, do proper training , improve their service time by time and employ multiracial workers. But other AP holders they are useless mengabiskan boreh kaki pengampu .

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    • Naza's Free Billions on Jul 09, 2014 at 11:43 am

      If someone give you free APs in the thousands also, anyone also can set up big warehouse showroom and factory.

      It is like someone giving you RM1 billion per year free. You also can employ multiracial workers and do training etc.

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    • super melayu on Jul 09, 2014 at 3:30 pm

      Rational is giving everybody a level playing field. This AP system only give advantage to those with good connections, and its up to these people to put it into good use. Some just abuse it for quick profit. While regular malays like 99% of us were made to believe that this is another bumiputera centric policy. Why are we still talking about this old news anyway

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  • Pemadam on Jul 09, 2014 at 10:54 am

    Suddenly macai macai like Kzm, Ah Beng Support Proton, all very quiet ah??

    Apa pasal diam diam? Geng panyamun tarak support kah

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    • Yong ZH on Jul 09, 2014 at 11:11 am

      ha ha ha. Where is kzm? the No 1 supporter of gomen? Now hiding in between his legs.

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      • kzm (Member) on Jul 09, 2014 at 8:56 pm

        Im not no.1 govt or p1 supporter that is Abuya n kadajawi..im neutral…u guys so much hatred for people who dont hav similar thinking as u guys…where is freedom of speaking or writing?

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        • kadajawi (Member) on Jul 10, 2014 at 4:17 am

          I’m not a P1 supporter. If I’m to be patriotic I have to support VW. I just see that P1 has improved a lot, and they deserve some respect for that. At least give them a chance now that they actually have done something. Fairly compare their cars to their competitors, if you still prefer another brand that’s fine.

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    • Hahah.. me pun waiting for them…

      Manalah anak-anak buah ni

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      • Kzm Kzm Where are you? on Jul 09, 2014 at 11:23 am

        Kzm sudah lesap? No comment? Or he just realised his beloved government has been cheating him all this years and is in shock?

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  • Henry on Jul 09, 2014 at 10:56 am

    So sad.

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  • jimmy on Jul 09, 2014 at 11:01 am

    OUR G is just making backward for this country, and let citizen to suffer for more, as next year with GST it will suffer more or may be bank-crap …… our country need more investment to earn more for local business and benefit to local citizen as to be higher pay country

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  • be happy on Jul 09, 2014 at 11:37 am

    Why need to be so sad. Just dont buy cars anymore..
    let them die in hell. just imagine, everyone is not buying any new cars.

    if you need a transport. just goto any 2nd hand car dealer. get something within ur budget and satisfied you. u do not need to pay high price for that. just keep in mind car is just a mean of transport. not worth to buy a new car and get hit and scratches on the road.

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  • People must be made aware of the misuse.

    create On-Line campaigns, Collect as many signatures as you can. Shouldn’t affiliate this to any political parties, but the people, netizens, common man. Pressurise the government to take action

    now thats the only way.

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  • ZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzz………

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  • pondan on Jul 09, 2014 at 12:17 pm

    a legacy from Tun Moron and his crony buddies. Crony di dahalu kan, rakyat makan tahi.

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  • pondan on Jul 09, 2014 at 12:23 pm

    so much for the janji janji turun car price…

    Blind BN supporters got smack on their face with shits.

    The most unfortunate are those malaysians that being dragged into this crap by those blind BN supporters.

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  • noname on Jul 09, 2014 at 1:53 pm

    capati lagi.. huhuhu

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  • sylinder on Jul 09, 2014 at 4:27 pm

    How about, don’t abolished the AP. Traffic jam will become worse as car become cheaper n then no one will buy motorcycle. no one will use public transport anymore!!

    p/s: i use public transport.

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  • moonwalker on Jul 09, 2014 at 4:45 pm

    Aiyoyo Dato. Talk c.o.x.k again. Going to 2015 already, don’t threat us anak malaysia like s.o.h.x.i

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  • bootupjoe on Jul 09, 2014 at 4:48 pm

    Thanks to idiot vote for “Barang Naik” – Satu Malaysia Janji Ditepikan..

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    • If for vote PR, the result still same just changing cronies team only… I just dont care, stop buying from them should give more damage to their financial…

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  • foxtrot on Jul 09, 2014 at 4:51 pm

    wayang again la knnccb
    just vote the gahmen out la

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  • SAMIBALU on Jul 09, 2014 at 8:16 pm

    AP bagus utk rakyat Malaysia. yang tidak suka sama itu AP, boleh keluar Malaysia sekarang. Pindah Thailand ka (jual body), pindah Singapore ka (high cost of living), pindah Indonesia ka (jadi org gaji).

    Org anti-AP complain ibarat hendak pergi mkn kat dapur tapi complain byk…mana letak sudu la, kenapa garfu simpan laci bawah la, mana cili sos tak beli la..

    ..org2 mcmni patut balik kampung tanam jagung ja. Tak payah buang masa cakap tahi di internet ni.

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  • BanyakSusah on Jul 09, 2014 at 8:19 pm

    Don’t always criticize government la, they very susah lo. Imagine every month millions of dollar go into pocket, then suddenly kosong…
    If it was for you, susah or not? Banyak susah…

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  • SAMIBARU on Jul 09, 2014 at 8:26 pm

    AP bagus utk rakyat Malaysia. yang tidak suka sama itu AP, boleh keluar Malaysia sekarang. Pindah Thailand ka (jual body), pindah Singapore ka (high cost of living), pindah Indonesia ka (jadi org gaji).

    Org anti-AP complain ibarat hendak pergi mkn kat dapur tapi complain byk…mana letak sudu la, kenapa garfu simpan laci bawah la, mana cili sos tak beli la…..

    ..org2 mcmni patut balik kampung tanam jagung ja. Tak payah buang masa cakap tahi di internet ni.

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  • august sixx on Jul 09, 2014 at 10:34 pm

    Menteri dan AP Holder pi makan tahi la…

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  • nothingbutLIES on Jul 09, 2014 at 11:44 pm

    ….AND kill the cash cow and duck that lays the golden eggs?….

    NEVERRRRRR……

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  • Calvin on Jul 11, 2014 at 12:50 am

    Ask him go to hell…first ah Lon in my life

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