Proton only released a single full exterior shot of the Proton Compact Car over the Merdeka weekend, in which the car was painted in green. This probably means green will be the ‘hero’ colour for the car, used in ad campaigns. We also know that there’ll be at least black, blue, white and of course by logic, the absolutely necessary silver exterior colours for the car.
Rendering whiz Theophilus Chin decided to have some fun with the teaser image by changing the car’s colour to a variety, and enlarging the wheels. These aren’t official PCC colours. The black and blue could be close to what the production car will offer, but we haven’t seen a red prototype on test yet, and wow, that yellow! Will Proton offer yellow for those who love yellow on their Myvi SE and Myvi Extreme so much?
What’s your favourite Proton Compact Car colour?
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what a beauty, exterior is outstanding
Good job Proton…
Focusing in safety is a good move.
oh wait,Proton basher in 3,2,1 …
are u calling perodua/umw salesman n diehard fans??
Good job PROTON. Fresh design, better safety rating, improve quality and this hot hatchback deserve to be no.1 car in its segment. Thumbs up PROTON!!
The Myvi looks really dated now. First time ever i see so many positive comments on a Proton new launch. BRAVO !
to answer to paul.. my fav is red of course.. with white Rims!!
good job proton IMHO this is the complete package for those who need small car for daily use but in the same time don’t want to compromise on safety features and driving fun and fuel consumption. if proton make PCC drive like savvy or better.. then proton get two thumbs up from me.
believe me safety features for small car is very crucial since you are competing with a lot bigger cars around you.
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tuuuu diaaaa…..
well bro, at least it is safer.
before brio now picanto tomoro bmw nex day after tomoro ferrari…
When Proton could rebadge Ferrari (with its build quality too), not only I would be proud, Malaysian would be proud.
At the meanwhile, please work out how to stop begging government first.
Cheap and reliable car, is what most Malaysians want. Get yourself there Proton.
hahahah. proton basher is here! no job is it? go fix your old thrash car before commenting here :P
hahahah. proton basher is here! no job is it? go fix your old thrash car before commenting here :P
actually, bashing proton is their job… the more rhey can influence rakyat… the more they getting sales
haha..Same Lorr’s comment clocked more than 100 dislikes! Come on guys let dislike his comment make him invisible in Paultan!
What IRIZ stands for:
I-llustrious car!
R-ealization to be global car!
I-deal car for young, professional and urbanites!
Z-ealously to be no.1 in its segment!
Ah Beng really high non stop. The car not launched already thinking it to be sold in Washington DC (with some fancy english).
See if Iriz can penetrate Bangsar or not first lar!
Wah adoi bagus ye!!!
Proton king of road and RV.
Proton = Power, Global standard, designer mcm world class.
Others brands = balik kampung.
I love the DRL and front bumper design..The design fits and compatible in every angle. I guess this is the reason why Axia launch sooo early, they afraid with PCC. Everyone (exclude ruthless bashers) love the design..PROTON, u r ready to go global! Good job!
You can’t go global with the “awesome” front bumper design. You can’t even cross JB-SG bridge.
Work out your build quality, Proton. That is what you should be focus of.
Yeah change your rusty mind also so that Proton will go on higher class..with reasonable price Proton will sent back foriegn worker at Perodua back to thier country.And you can follow them also.Dont stay in Malaysia if you not willing to proud Malaysia product even they already improve their product to the higher level of Safety,styling and FC.Good Job proton
dont bother on quality parts. they all came from same vendor.. haha.. do ask perodua, honda, toyota.. hehe.
The PCC looks lawa in all colors.
Rupa luar sudah OK. Rupa dalam macam OK. Color OK. Harga ada OK kah? Hope it will price around 50k (HL variant), else this model may go 6 feet under.
for around 60K people could already get preve with bigger car, 6 airbags. dont think so this car will reach near 60K price tag. 55k for HL could be..
still a lot of people buy myvi 1.5 at this price tag..
It looks good in white also.
http://blog.twwhiteandsons.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/755749_Hyundai_i10_003-2830388727-O.jpg
look very similar to this…http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/17/Ferrari_F430_front_20080605.jpg
haha, it is good the Iriz is like Ferrari in your heart. Good, keep it up.
Please make sure you buy more Iriz when it launched. Malaysians are sick of seeing Proton begging for tax payers’ money.
How many units you would buy Iriz? 6? 9? Come on, don’t syok sendiri and talk empty, prove it with your action.
u must be blind to see it looks like an i10.
Same Lorr go to h#LL!
No one like you here..
Stop being keyboard warrior and go back continue your normal routine trafficking prostitution..haha..Mari2..Mari masuk dalam banyak amoi boleh kongkek..puihh..
Typical Proton fanboys! When you have a little comment on Proton, they ask you go out of Malaysia go to hell go here go there.
Because Proton is so holy and “untouchable” for them, Proton is now having problem clearing their 2013 stocks. No one wanna touch/own a Proton.
You like me or not, I don’t give a shit. People like this Proton i10 or not, sales figure will tell. Relax lar…
typical perodua n umw salesman
when rakyat asking for cheaper n better quality of real daihatsu ayla, siam n indon made toyota… they ask rakyat to leave this country or must accept perodua n umw product
pity malaysian
Same Lorr blinded with his hatred towards PROTON. He did not even notice that PROTON had work hard to improvise their images which previously jeopardized by poor vendors. Ah Beng still have faith with PROTON with the new Management and under Tun M direction, they capable to bring this local brand on par with world std automaker. Good luck PROTON!
Why I have to be blind and hatred towards Proton? It won’t affect my business at all. lol
The poor vendors are still the same vendors now. Proton good or not, sales figure will tell. It is so “good” that you still can get 2013 stock now for RM8k discount while we are approaching final quarter of 2014.
When a politician make car, here we have Proton.
Good luck good luck good luck Proton!
Good luck good luck good luck Proton!
PCC = Proton Compact Car.
PPS = Pulau Pinang Shit, Puak Puak Sial?
What engine?
OK, Proton really did great in making a small car looks good this time. Kudos to their effort in designing! Now just hope they don’t screw up in the quality issue. If build quality is good, I bet my bottom this car would worth every of our rakyat’s hard earned penny.
white
yup, definitely white!
White with black roof..heheh
Got “Pelangi” color, definitely i would choose… ekekeke… Good job Proton… Personally, the red one looks “Garang”…
White FTW!
The Blue and red looks good to me
before the comment saying this car looks or copycat like myvi, brio, fiesta, picanto, boon, i10, savvy, kancil, persona, saga, sonata, perdana, mondeo, kizashi, asiah, accord, civic, vios, camry, optima, malibu, aventador, cx5, california, cruze and bla bla bla, also RV comment, vios and myvi can tapao and also sam loo and their fans copy pasting their comments from other articles and bla2… lemme say it first, this car is similar and looks the same like the other model because of this car got 4 tires with rims, engine, door, wiper, side mirror, steering, hand brake, gear, head lamps, rear lamps, speedometer, windows and can drive on the land and cannot drive underwater or at the sky or might be cannot at angkasa lepas also.. this car also design for human, not for animals… these are the similarities and the copycat you can find on this Proton PCC/GSC/Iriz with other car models..
LOL wait till they got insane and put in ex5 in the xopycat list
Good one..I’m with u bro..
Lol
Agreed…
they will stop bashing the car if it has 3tires.
Agree, even with 1 tires you also love Proton jer.
Janji didapati bg mu.
Adoi cantik ye Proton.
Apa yg ko merepek ni??
If Proton managed to come out 1 tyre vehicle where FC good, reliable, spacious, stylish. I would be glad to consider Proton too. Why not?
Everything is fact based, not need Sendiri Cakap Sendiri Syok (Proton 5S lifestyle).
the yellow and blue color would be my most preferred color!
and i did notice that Theophilus Chin also rendered the tyre and sport rims to be about 1 inch bigger than the original. And it does look really good!
Sharp eyes hakim!
Proton should hired you, and sack the Head of Proton design.
He just know how to talk big and sit in office play pad.
Yellow did look good!!!
The only query is about the price? If below RM40k, sure it will sell good.
Agreed. Although that yellow is better referred to Satria Neo R3’s “canary yellow” just like the S2000 rally car, instead of referring it to Myvi SE and Extreme.
wow! need a chrome one like preve sapphire!
u look very excited paul.
Simply put, this is the best effort Proton has made.
Waiting anxiously for…. The customary proton basher vs proton supporter comments on Paultan. Cmon, bring it on already!
You can even list their nick down. Lol
so… u are ?
spectator or lalang ?
And u?
Lalat or cacing? or bgg?
It’s obviously Myvi wannabe.
lol
It’s timing chain or not?
if not, then sorry.
what about fuel consumption? can it be like 20km/L?..
reveal more.
Want EEV for B-segment.
better go for Great Wall M4 SUV 1.5L EEV.
RM50k for Auto.
see
as expected
timing chain > all vsc, 6 airbags, cvt, psb
hahaha
Hihihi
Vios = Godcar
Myvi = Godcar compact
Timingchain = God component
After this must ketuk-ketuk the body of the car. Kalau lembik semacam,not god enough lol
thank you
perodua / umw salesman driving myvi
Myvi wanna be?? Cannot even come close with the ‘bare’ myvi..
I smell sarcasm
whats wrong with using timing belt? its old tech so not powderful enuf? care to elaborate?
Mind you (in case you’re still in your Proton-bashing lalaland), this car is not officially launched yet
according to proton sales person who have been in training for PCC, it would do 5.7l/100km in constant 90km/h highway driving…
that’s same figure as Proton Saga 1.3FLX auto,
better than Saga BLM.
o, dissapointed.
city driving gonna be 10-11km/L again.
no wonder no EEV tax exemption and selling expensive at RM40k.
If that’s true then its still not efficient enough compared to its competitors. The new Honda City can do 5.5L/100km at constant 110km/h using cruise control. At constant speeds of 90km/h the City can drive from Bukit Kayu Hitam to the south end of Johor with a single tank easily.
That’s on highway everyone can claim 5.5, even 5.0.
Wait till they users say about PCC city driving.
I read somewhere it’s 5.5L/100km 90kmh constant and 6.6L/100km MECD. You see, combined driving is totally different. Highway driving, you can get superb FC, all u need to do is stay constant and follow the wind. Combined FC? Only a hybrid do 4.5L/100km (I drive a prius) with a bit of conscious driving and 5L/100km if you drive like u always drive with no care for FC. However, i read here somewhere the Iriz is “hybrid” ready. And currently there are the “Hybrid” Inspira being used / tested by the police. A hybrid Iriz is tempting.
Don’t you dare think a timing chain cannot break as well. It takes a lot longer to break but it can and the results are just as, if not more, disastrous as the chain whips about cutting anything soft enough in its path.
bila proton buat engine power sikit, pi tanya km/l
bila proton buat jimat, pi tanya hp/top speed.
apa pun xboleh …
hidup nak mengadu,
mati xmau .
isnt it right? Perodua’s salesman ?
Hidup susah,
Mati pun susah
Terbakar kampung nampak asapnya,
terbakar hati siapa yang tahu
Apabila keranda dibawa,
barulah bercucuran airmata
Takpe…berani mati…tak mati punya
the rims look bigger than previous image
dont mind la the rim’s size
malaysian will always change to aftermarket rims.
unless it is made by branded company like Enkei.
no offense.
Ugly shit. Where is the Toyota altis white?
Toyota – moving backward
Proton – moving forward
Reliability and high RV not gonna guarantee passenger’s safety.without ESP/Traction control.
Toyota are really going backward.
Haha Toyota’s owner disliking my post..
to toyota owner : careful ya during rain, your car may slip..
Toyota’s RV going down..
Safety ? Only Altis scores best, but lack of safety assist. – source NCAP
;P
A kid that never learn.
Is UMW Toyota = moving backward.
Japan Toyota = moving forward.
Speeding Toyota maybe slippery on the road during rain. Drive slower and responsible then.
Proton please be careful on the road ALL TIME, coz you never know when it will break down (it sure break down). You drive fast drive slow it will just break down. Better just drive around your garage then.
White is a must in all passenger cars segment. Its the most sought after. Take NOTE PROTON
Is there anywhere in the article suggesting white wouldn’t be one of its colour? I think white is a mandatory colour for all car… can’t remember a passenger car that has no white colour option in Malaysia…
low profile tires looks good :).
Yeah.. Agree.. Yellow is gorgeous..
Always been a fan of the blue and red colors and I do really like Proton’s Atlantic Blue as seen on the Sup S. Very eye-catching shade of blue.
I’m not sure if Proton is making the right move with that Mentos green color to be their representative color of the PCC. Hopefully it looks better in the metal than in the teaser renderings. Too reminiscent of the mentos green MyVi XT. Gotta hand it to them for having the guts to choose this color, though! Must be wanting to appeal to the younger crowd.
I gotta go with what sudonano said in the previous PCC post. Silver, black or white should have been the flagship color to accentuate its timelessness and mature design language. It isn’t bland but doesn’t strive to be flashy, either. The design, to me, has this restrained, confident look. Very European in feel.
And to those who think the chrome bar linking the two headlights (should be the Proton Wings design) look like afterthoughts, I think they’re rather well-done. LEAPS AND BOUNDS ahead of the Proton Wings implementation on the Preve and Surpima S.
the wheels are enlarged. looks better
please wait for Iriz Aero
Iriz KZM still under testing.. hahaha
Yellow and red suits the car nicer than the green one. By the way on a other note, saw kosmo tabloid reprinted the iris image & infos from paultan (dunno whether they got permission!).
News publication are free to publish anything without the owner’s permission IIRC.
As long as they are only copying the facts and not the whole article, it should be OK. And paultan doesn’t really own the image anyway.
Modern Steel Metallic in selection of hue please.
I see the car in the picture comes with R3-like side-skirts and what seems to be a front air dam. I wonder if this is available in the standard model or would there be a low-spec version without those nice bits.
4 Beautiful Rosmah Body Proton Iriz.
Will be against with ugly Rosmah Perodua Myvi
Proton’s market share has falled below 25% in Malaysia. It is moving towards 20%.
The national car project has failed. But the rakyat must still pay for it via taxes and higher prices on other cars. Only certain fat cats in high positions benefit from Proton.
Please don”t think Proton is a national pride. Proton is exporting only 5% of its production, and losing money on every car it sells abroad. People in other countries consider Proton to be a joke of a car, the cheapest, most old-fashioned car brand in the market.
Sorry if the truth hurts.
people always put pressure on proton,
well high pressure charcoal,soon enough gonna be a diamond.
Learning from past mistakes are very crucial,
lets hope proton’s bad reputation just the for the past.
Finger crossed ,
Same goes to u.
Say change from past, 30 years still middle in changing. 30 years still spoon buy parents (Gov).
If really change sell the price compare to Global economic standard. NOT compare with after charges excise duty on CBU cars.
yeah bro , because there’s someone like u..
look at the Korean, almost all of them using their own cars.
now their cars are global standard n competing with japanese car brand
It was time when almost all Malaysians use Proton. And then how? Quality drop, service centre cocky, everything can break down will break down.
When you talk about how Korean supporting their kimchi cars, don’t forget how serious are they improving their cars.
Change the staff/vendor culture then only you can change the public’s perception on Proton.
Yup,if Proton can sell it a VIVA price then they can claimed that they have achieved a milestone in the automotive industry of being able to give ‘quality’ at a reasonable price BUT if this Proton car cost as much as a BMW overseas then they have FAILED after over 28 years they still can’t GIVE any benefits to the rakyat.
Tell me in which country a Proton costs as much as a BMW overseas?
You idiot or what? Do u know how much BMW costs oversea? You’ve been bullied into believing those crap about this and that tax making cars expensive in Malaysia? You go to Singapore and see the price over there. Don’t let dumb politician make you dumber than them lah. Learn your facts, not just eat whatever politicians says. Dumb and dumber you know.
damn
color oso niceee
ayuh perodua salesman
cat senang chip off, proton jual mahal overseas( petodua jual mahal takpe) proton mintak duit gomen(petodua mintak privilege n incentive takpe, xde timing chain
This car looks so sleek.. Love the red.. And six airbags!! Well done!!
biru subaru. nice..good job proton.
white!!!!
The highest spec PCC will not reach below RM40k.
Even the full spec Myvis with significantly less safety features and specs that is priced between RM56-61k are offered to the masses.
I hope you understand that Proton’s PCC will also be priced between these range. But with ultimately much more better specs. Realistically,it’s a better offer.
However,yes,lower variants do offer cheaper price. YET,with still better features than its competitors.
Happy booking. :)
yellow!!!
just my opinion, i bet it will cost around 55k++ to 68k++..
p1 try to fight with its’ main competitor p2 myvi.
try to break market share kinda a good move for p1. gudluck
I’d actually like to see it in that Liquid Orange colour that was originally offered on the Satria Neo.
Theo please fix the rendering for yellow one. The color banding is triggering my autism.
Good clean design and now i have hope with proton. keep the spec good n most importantly the people friendly price…..a very well done Proton.
wow! i really like it! cant wait to know the price!!!
Paultan & Co,in one of your episodes,one of your guys remarked”City copied BMW” (for the buttock).
Well,for the frontage of this Myvi/Vios cross breed,may I ask,is proton copying Perodua or toyota?
Anyway,this seems to be a decent effort by Proton,as they play catchup,after losing so much market share to perodua.
This year projected vehicle sales expected to reach 700,000 units,but proton’s market share is declining..a worrisome time for Proton’s hardcore perlindungan supporters.
p2 salesman: we anti NAP anti protection
rakyat: how about perodua selling cheaper outside n daihatsu alya sold all asean market excrpt malaysia?? all small import car in malaysia are expensive?? is it to protect our 2nd nasional car???
p2 salesman : errrrrrr tu lainnnnnn
the most butthurt keyboard warrior in Paultan.org:: Peyno.
come, Ms Rossie sayang u.
p2 salesman need to work harder
3..2..1
no timing chain, no resale value, not japan quality, rompak duit rakyat, bla bla bla
huhhh
Nope, the most butthurt keyboard warrior in Paultan.org award goes to …..
<>
Same Lorrr!!!!!!!!
Muahahahahah
The most syok sendiri visitor in paultan.org also goes to him.
proton should put camouflage color
look more aggressive and attractive
Matte black, with black alloy rims, with darkest legal tinted windows and blacked out headlights & tail lights
Hope stability control is standard for all the range
nice front design…proton must put this on the next preve n exora facelift.
It looks a lil bit like Honda Brio…
Grill also looks Honda style…
kereta paling pelik tahun ni… badan kecik mata besar
eeeeeeeeeeee
This is really really bad…was considering the satria neo as a solo fun car for me to treat like a unappreciated wife? But after being totally disappointed with the rubbery gearshifts, i might consider the pcc instead…
If it has a manual :p…which is unlikely.
i choose black and blue as my personal preference…that black looks a bit of mafia..but i think that blue is the most standout above all colours..it even makes the rim blend in well together with the car itself..
merahh..putihhh…..biru…kuning…..lambang semagat kami semua…
More positive comment this time..great!!! Keep it up Proton!!!
damn
proton protected, curi duit rakyat
p2 salesman
jessie lim
Good job Chin!
Black = Very premium executive look
Blue = Better if it is in dark or shadow blue. More sporty.
Red = Females will love it!
Yellow = Outspoken, lively and extrovert~ (reminds me of a yellow Suzuki swift)
But but but my dear chin, why didn’t you render WHITE colour???
For the first time in Paultan.org’s history, I’ve seen more positive comments on a Proton article than negative ones. Also merepek ones less than most Proton articles
Untill now, I haven’t seen yet how the Iriz’s rear lamp looks like?!!!
i choose yellow….id blacken the chrome grill , and spray the roof top black….wil look trendy no end !
i bet this car can do with some stripes, either ala Ford GT or Lamborghini Gallardo Balboni.
wait, is this meant to be an attempt at a hot hatch?
Wow those 17 inch wheels make the iriz look gorgeous.. if only proton dares to put them for the top variant. Well, 16 is already good enough for balanced comfort, handling & looks. But 15 with 55 profile tyre, is quite tiny weeny for a tall body (1.5m+ perhaps).
so the headlamp array looks like the ones on Vios, the body looks like Brio/i10… We can;t say copycat coz some say it’s a normal practice in the automotive industry today, it’ll have excellent build quality and my comment will definitely get bashed by proton sympathizers. a plenty over here it seems. So i’ll just lie as if my life depends on it and say good job proton. :)
What the fark is soon effing great with the timing chain anyways? In case u the so called auto whiz have not read, tech in timing belt have evolved so great that now it is possible for a manufacturer to produce timing belt that can last up to 100k km before needing replacement. And using timing belt is more cost effective to maintain and cheaper too.
Timing chains also need to be replaced after their long service life. Failure to do so would also result in the timing chain snapping and the result of this is just as, if not more, disastrous than a timing belt snap since the timing chain is hard and it’ll do damage as a projectile once it has snapped.
Timing belt is quieter and lighter and easier to fix. A snapped timing belt isn’t really the design’s fault, it snapped because it has done it’s service life or a mechanical failure.
p2 salesman
if they cant tell the good n new tech about VSC, 6 airbags, CVT, push start button, DRL
they will say” timing chain”
hahahaha
look like savvy…
omg.. PCC simply copycat other cars.. front just like ford fiesta.. back just like myvi.. wth with p2 designers? simply copy others cars, touch up in here and there.. easy jobs, easy money…!@#$%$%^&
How many students and salesmen proton employed to just fill up this pages with positive comments? Drb will not pay you guys anything pls open up your eyes. We saw the same comments on suprima and we saw how it failed. It’s not proton ppl hate it’s the management. And people who use proton in capital letters are for sure proton dear team.
How much do you paid Superman?
I get paid Zero . I am a concerned citizen who loves proton but what in don’t like is unhealthy ways drb does to show they are successful even in this public forum. let the actual sales of the car do the talking. DSSZ is the man to run the proton not pos Malaysia ppl.
So you believe it should be full with negative comments? Come on, proton today is not what you know before, it keeps changing.
it is changing yes, but it changes to the negative side and always have problem. problem is always caused by bad management. now they are ion their worst days under the drb so called turn around experts.
Lol. Some comments are sarcastically “positive” =)
Damn ugly.. It’s like copycat of other manufacturer.. No wow factor…
I can’t get the identity of this car
Mazda 2 and peugeot 208, hyundai i20 much much better looking..
Identity of Proton Iriz/Aveo::: MY Rosmah Signature.
rosmah name oredi patented for perodua myvi
Copy catttttttt. Like pirated car
Pirated username and comment
hmmm….i thought is the enhanced version of MyVi when see it without see the title…this call design? wheel look like mazda…?
Look like City too and you can list down as many cars as you want. So what?
jangan nak pangkah sangat laaa.
many have put their effort to make this car, same goes the rival (another local car brand), yg nak condemn je keje yer, ko beli la keta ko yg idamkan, kang jgn sebuk pulak kos sara hidup tinggi la, utang banyak la,..
janji aku beli keta guna duit sendiri, tak guna duit mak bapak.
atleast proud la sket, nak tunggu korang buat, tah tah baru tgk engineering drawing dah muntah.. puihhh
Can’t wait to drive it..good job proton..
I wonder , the space inside .
i am driving a myvi , leg room in the back is good . even with the front seat is all the way to the back .
this i hope is accounted for .
car looks good .
1.3L , emmmmmm should have 1.0 (Turbocharged) .
CVT is a great gearbox , should have opt to RND on Dual clutch .
safety futures , i would say i am surprised .
and booth space , I wonder . ?????
Yawnnn..
No more ideas is it? Pirate also can..
Kasi lu all syok sendiri lah
P1 salesman & pkerja kilang Tanjung malim city..
Enjoying life now…
Syiohh syiohh go cari sales.
Hahaha. .
k.
agree or not we can see proton has made improvements. It is not huge, but able to stand high with its competitors.
With the Malaysian auto industry being controlled by a “selfeesh” group of ppl, do not hope for cheaper cars with good specs.
P1 and P2 are here to stay.
51% of the ppl asked for this.
For the rest of us, work harder and get higher income to get your dream car.
Sadly, a decent car is out of reach for many Rakyat.
Awaiting to test drive!
That is one aggressive character lines.
From a reliable source. Price will be similar to Mvyi. Specs is superior to Jazz.
Kereta tak boleh launch, launch gambar pun jadi la.
DAMMIT!!!! SO GORGEOUS!!! i want the yellow one!!!!
Nice car, well done.
Eh! Air -con still not climate control type!
outdated!!!
Iriz come with popular color, and all color still perfect match with the car, Well done Proton
Nice.I want the green one..
Iriz sounds like IRIS – a company..anyway, Proton should distinct itself from other makers even for this simple marketing or brochures. Remember, Proton must get out there and prove something?!
I like the yellow one!
well done proton! Tapi kenapa skali tgk mcm myvi + jazz..hmmm.