2016 Honda Civic – a choice of 2.0 NA and 1.5 turbo?

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Fresh rumours regarding the 2016 Honda Civic have surfaced. According to a Temple of VTEC USA report, the next-generation Civic sedan will be offered with a choice of two engines: a 2.0 litre naturally-aspirated VTEC and a new 1.5 litre VTEC Turbo.

The report suggests that the 2.0 NA engine will be marketed as the base motor, only available with the lesser trim lines. The 1.5T, meanwhile, is said to be positioned slightly higher, and can be had with more premium equipment packs.

Transmission wise, both engines can be paired with either a six-speed manual ‘box or a CVT. The six-speeder, though, is tied only to each engine’s base trim, if the report is to be believed, whereas the CVT is to be available across the entire range.

Nothing on power outputs yet, but as a reference, Honda’s 2.0 litre VTEC engine makes 155 PS and 190 Nm in our current-generation Civic, while the 1.5 litre VTEC Turbo unit fitted on the StepWGN and Jade RS offers 150 PS and 203 Nm. Whether these figures will be kept the same on the Civic remains to be seen.

It has to be mentioned, though, that the report refers to the US-market line-up, where the Civic Sedan is currently offered with a 143 hp/175 Nm 1.8 litre VTEC engine as standard. There’s also a 205 hp/237 Nm 2.4 litre VTEC option in the semi-hot Civic Si variant.

So far, it looks like the two new engine options (2.0 NA and 1.5T) will take the place of the standard Civic line-up. A replacement for the Civic Si should appear later on.

How the Malaysian-market 2016 Honda Civic will shape up is yet unknown. But given a choice, which one would you prefer – 2.0 litre naturally-aspirated VTEC or 1.5 litre VTEC Turbo?

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  • Fahmi on Aug 03, 2015 at 2:25 pm

    1.5 VTEC Turbo FTW!

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    • alldisc on Aug 03, 2015 at 3:47 pm

      to babies or younsgters they may think honda is the leader to japanese downsizing trend but the real truth is that honda never produced a turbocharged car for international market until now. exception is only for several JDM kei cars in the past decade.

      Toyota, Mistubishi, Subaru, Nissan, even Daihatsu were all advanced than Honda beginning from late 70s to mid 80s.

      even Daihatsu had the popular Charade G11 turbo and the popular the 3 door G100 GTti pocket rocket in 1987 – amazing.

      humiliating it is that Honda is the late to the party.

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      • WhatAndWhy on Aug 03, 2015 at 4:37 pm

        Why make you think late in introducing turbo charged is a humiliation? Turbo isn’t everything and NA still has lots of charm to offer, especially wide power distribution across rpm range.

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        • karam singh on Aug 03, 2015 at 5:30 pm

          agreed, Honda making best of NA engine.
          best BHP/L held by the S2000’s engine F20C
          125hp/l.I admit new Turbo Direct Injection is better today, less FC+more power+less CO2.
          FYI, Honda comes 1st in turbocharged direct injection among JDM cars for conventional vehicles for C/D segment cars.
          Is new corolla,camry,sylphy,teana,lancer(non evo),mazda 3,mazda 5, coming out with turbo engine ? still no rumours about them.
          The car brand leading the turbocharged engine for conventional vehicle – Continental’s car brand,Ford.

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          • alldisc on Aug 04, 2015 at 11:11 am

            dear Karam Singh,

            if u set up a car company, it will close shop in 2 years because you only make cars that is the most powerful and the fastest. well, in reality that is not what consumers want. pls digest the figures i list below. link given is
            http://www.best-selling-cars.com

            lets look at Japan car sales for 3 years back
            Brand…….Toyota…….Honda
            2014…..1,509,149…..848,753
            2013…..1,536,260…..763,388
            2012…..1,646,409…..745,204
            TOTAL….4,691,818…2,357,345

            difference 2,334,473 units.

            even in Europe, Toyota outsold Honda by huge margin.

            Brand…….Toyota…….Honda
            2013…….542,054…..139,712
            2012…….516,572…..141,236
            TOTAL….1,058,636…..280,948

            dont forget Europe and Japan dont have Innova, Avanza or Rush. Hilux is hardly a popular choice in Europe that means its passenger cars versus passenger cars data.

            For Honda Malaysia to outsell Toyota Malaysia for that extra few thousand units is nothing to boast. Even Honda Japan wont bother to shout it out loud.

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          • alldiscToyotaSalesman on Aug 06, 2015 at 3:02 pm

            What you say might be true about global sales figure but whats offered here are utter inferior product. Lack of ESP, airbags and have poor chassis and crash safety ratings compared to other brands is not something to be proud of.
            I guess you must have some share in Toyota to be so fanatically defending Toyota at every turn and post or perhaps you are the PR rep for Toyota in this forum and paid to defend Toyota honour

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        • Same L0rrrr on Aug 03, 2015 at 5:43 pm

          Imagine you enjoying turbo lag in Civic, which supposed to be comfort and quiet? I just can’t stop laughing.

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          • Better than 2 litre camry. Lag from beginning till the top speed.

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          • karam singh on Aug 04, 2015 at 12:38 am

            hahaha comfort and quiet ?
            typical toyota salesman sooo old and boring.
            do you know that new turbocharged direct injection engine have less turbo lag?
            Vtec system is there to cover the lag.
            next 1.5l turbo civic,
            better FC,more power,high tuning capabilities,less roadtax,less CO2.
            isnt it the best ?
            who still gonna go for 1.8/2.0 d-VVti compared to 2.0 i-Vtec DOHC or new 1.5l vtec turbo ?

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      • Production cars? Maybe late as you claimed. However, Honda have produced highly successful turbo powered engines for F1 participation in the past, including the McLaren driven by Aryton Senna.

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        • Jonn Dol on Aug 03, 2015 at 5:38 pm

          Prior to Mclaren Honda years, the Honda Turbo powered Williams cars amassed more total race wins compared to the Honda Turbo powered Mclaren cars.

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          • Thanks John Dol. I hope Honda’s F1 engine will be competitive soon, as it is disappointing (well, for me at least) to see them struggle this year given their history in F1.

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      • karam singh on Aug 03, 2015 at 5:39 pm

        Hi alldisc, let me explain a bit about your beloved daihatsu.
        G100 GTti make 105hp out of 1000cc engine
        EK9 Type R make 185hp out of 1600cc engine

        GTti engine make 1hp/9.52cc
        EK9 engine make 1hp/8.65cc

        Honda NA engine make out more hp/l than the turbocharged daihatsu.
        If Honda making 1000cc NA engine, its gonna come out with 115.6hp. thats 10.6 hp more than daihatsu turbo engine.

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        • alldisc on Aug 04, 2015 at 10:44 am

          hi back karam.

          GTti was a product of 1987.

          can you look at what Honda had in 1987? the 1.6 litre ZC engine produces only 118hp.

          pls compare apple to apply.

          i was not making models comparison in my early comment except just to show Honda is nothing.

          and if their NA engine is so good, why bother with turbocharge?? ha ha ha…

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      • TopsyBoXyTurvy on Aug 03, 2015 at 8:48 pm

        What kind of comment is that?? What u mention is quite irrelevant and pointless actually. Chicken and Duck , u know…

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      • Honda non turbo vtec engines are just as fast as turbo engines and more reliable. That’s what is humiliating to the other brands. Mitsubishi, Subaru, nissan, and diahatsu all have a worse build quality, reliability, gas mileage, handling, re sale value, etc. I owned a Subaru I had a busted head gasket after 50k miles which is a problem with those cars. Also rust spots after a few years, the interior was falling apart, loose heat sheild, brake pads wore down every 15k miles.. Let alone diahatsu, you must be joking.

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    • winwin on Aug 03, 2015 at 7:36 pm

      1.5T for the cheaper roadtax

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  • i would prefer the turbo..
    To be the class leader, honda should tune the civic’s 1.5T to around 170-180hp with 250-300nm of torque

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  • shawal on Aug 03, 2015 at 2:45 pm

    Ours will hv d current engine line up…
    1.8 n 2.0

    Hopefully malaysian model will hv rear aircond vents tho..

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    • heybadigol (Member) on Aug 03, 2015 at 3:44 pm

      To be honest, the spy pictures do not show any rear AC vents on the upcoming Civic (but there are rear seat heaters and coolers – useless if you have kids sitting on a child seat). I hope this is an oversight for American market only. Cos if it misses rear AC vents here, even the B segment City will be better spec’ed than the new Civic.

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  • 1.5 turbo, 260nm of torque from low 1,500rpm will make driving soo effortless. dont need to drive above 4,000rpm just to get decent torque as per current top heavy vtec

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  • cendol (Member) on Aug 03, 2015 at 3:04 pm

    If new Honda Civic uses 1.5 VTEC Turbo, then new Honda Civic Type R uses what?

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    • Bob_B78 on Aug 03, 2015 at 3:24 pm

      Duh, u never read the news? The latest CTR is using 2.0L turbocharged engine and it is on sales now in Europe

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    • toyotamacai on Aug 03, 2015 at 3:41 pm

      Uses Vios 1.5l VVTI Engine, most powerful engine on road

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    • vtec turbo on Aug 03, 2015 at 3:56 pm

      3.5 V8 vtec twincharger AWD……lol

      of coz 2.0 vtec turbo..didnt u read the news..

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  • Richard on Aug 03, 2015 at 3:07 pm

    Yes! VTEC+Turbo! 1.5L some more… this is interesting!

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  • BeemerFreak on Aug 03, 2015 at 3:27 pm

    Yeah Honda, kill Toyota…..go go.

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  • berserker on Aug 03, 2015 at 3:33 pm

    Isn’t that the current civic uses i-Vtec?

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  • heybadigol (Member) on Aug 03, 2015 at 3:40 pm

    But, but, but, that 1.5 turbo comes with a caveat, ie a CVT transmission. Wished they’d put in the DCT with torque converter, but I guess that gearbox would be limited to Acura models only. The use of CVT is understandable, as Honda is now targeting efficiency, rather than performance, like they used to in the previous century. So win some, lose some.

    Assuming the 2.0 gets DI, it should put more power & torque than the current DI-less Civic FB 2.0. So perhaps 165bhp and slightly over 200NM of torque in the 2.0. The 1.5 turbo must beat this as its meant for higher spec Civics whereas the NA 2.0 is for lower specs models.

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  • DPCraft on Aug 03, 2015 at 4:06 pm

    What!! “If” 1.5t offer 150 PS and 260 Nm while the 2.0 offers 155 PS and 190 Nm . There isn’t much different, but I hope they get rid/upgrade the 1.8 in malaysia, because it’s under power for Civic.

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    • Bob_B78 on Aug 03, 2015 at 4:58 pm

      Actually there is a lot difference. The horsepower (ps) maybe roughly the same but the torque is a lot of difference. Higher torque gives you faster acceleration.
      For example:
      1. VW Jetta 160ps/240nm 1.4tonnes – 8.3s (0-100km/h)
      2. Civic 2.0 155ps/190nm 1.3tonnes – 9.0s (0-100km/h)

      Expect new 1.5 vtec turbo to give new civic 8.0s for 0-100 km/h because its lighter and has more torque.

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      • DPCraft on Aug 03, 2015 at 6:40 pm

        Yeah, I didn’t realize the 1.5turbo produce that much torque. Anyways thanks :)

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        • ahmadloy on Nov 11, 2015 at 3:03 pm

          I don’t believe it..for sure piston “pecah”..not reliable!

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  • jobless on Aug 03, 2015 at 4:08 pm

    as long as it is Honda or Toyoda it will have RV

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  • DPCraft on Aug 03, 2015 at 4:08 pm

    I think the next Accord will get 1.8turbo, since civic already upgrade.

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  • lth (Member) on Aug 03, 2015 at 4:18 pm

    yeah…. can civic still sell at 130 ..:D

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  • Turbo is for the weak

    -Clarkson

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  • CVT sux on Aug 03, 2015 at 7:32 pm

    1.5T please.However,plonk in a proper 6 speed torque converter auto. CVT are best reserved for Honda scooters.

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  • ahmadjohnson97 on Aug 03, 2015 at 8:00 pm

    My choice is 1.5 VTEC Turbo with manual transmission.

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  • mobile on Aug 03, 2015 at 8:05 pm

    2.0 and 1.5t for the US..but here, sticking to 2.0 or 1.8 same as previous gen?

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  • Papa G on Aug 03, 2015 at 9:05 pm

    From a guy who owns a highly strung 660cc turbocharged car, I’d rather have a big engined car with less power… Called me old school but IMHO, big engine less stress than downsized forced-induction car

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    • 4G63T DSM on Aug 04, 2015 at 1:53 pm

      Right.

      However most people here are quite unfortunate to be able to keep a big cc car on the road due to the high CC based road tax.

      I have had a 2.0 Turbo 4 and a 5.7L V8. Both which makes about the same HP and Torque. But the V8 is so much more relaxed to drive.

      I suspect the 1.5L in the USDM car will make more power and torque if it was to replace the 2.4L engined SI. There is a big gap between the 1.5T and the 2.0T in the new Type R.

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  • transformer on Aug 03, 2015 at 9:09 pm

    To me Nissan SR16VE is the best NA engine so means no turbo lags…

    Go google “wiki Nissan SR engine” to read

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  • Kenny on Aug 03, 2015 at 9:35 pm

    The 2.0 NA will be priced like the exiting Civic 2.0 but the 1.5 Turbo will be priced like a 2.4L D-segment car. Malaysian dealers always sharpen their knives when it comes to turbo. Just wait for it.

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  • Friend on Aug 03, 2015 at 9:43 pm

    1.5 I-VTEC TURBO! cheaper road tax, better fuel consumption,and better torque

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  • 1.5 turbo spec will takes forever to ckd in malaysia

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