Proton’s announcement of its upcoming new engine line-up has made many curious on the future of its current CamPro engines. The engine first debuted on the Gen2 in 2004, and since then, has received a series of updates leading right up to the VVT mill found in the Iriz. With more than a decade of employment, the engine’s continued existence is heavily dependant on market conditions, according to Proton chief technical officer Abdul Rashid Musa.
“As you know, [Proton’s new GDI and TGDI engines] will not work with fuels with excessively low RON ratings because it is a very efficient engine,” he said. “So it’s dependent on the market. There are other considerations like cost and what not. With countries that have lower regulatory requirements and are more cost sensitive, the VVT [engine] will be most suitable for that market.” It has to be mentioned, however, that the new direct-injection engines will still be able to run on RON 95 petrol.
Rashid added that conversely, countries with higher regulatory requirements and higher emissions standards like the forthcoming Euro 6c standard will require the use of the new GDI and TGDI mills. “So that’s the reason why we are not scrapping [CamPro], as it depends on the market we are entering and its suitability – be it in terms of technology or cost – so we need to have the solution for both.
“Therefore, we need to address the market accurately rather than just sell what we have. If the target market is more sensitive to price, then we need to offer the appropriate technology that is most competitive and attractively priced compared to the new technology,” he said.
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To Proton BOD’S: If continue use Campro as Proton car engine in coming future…. get ready to “close shop and gets left behind in local (Malaysia) market again” !!! Please treat your own customer in Malaysia “Rakyat” BETTER !!!!!
Moral of the story: Countries with higher regulatory requirements and higher emissions standards like euro, aussie and singapore will get GDI and TGDI. Countries with lower regulatory requirements and lower emissions standards like Malaysia and Indonesia will stick with campro. History will repeat itself as Malaysian will again eat protons scraps.
U see? local market still use campro, overseas market GDI & TGDI engine..
So go for Toyota.. Toyota got VVT-i! Good RV.. mark my word!
u are fake..
“If the target market is more sensitive to price, then we need to offer the appropriate technology”
i bet the protons with GDI engine will cost the same as imported cars
@proton? :- I also bet that you never read any of those self-help motivational books.
I think it is best that proton try to recapture home ground first, then think elsewhere
I agree, that’s at least a basic strategy they have to learn.
we will not get the timing chain..
still want to keep the outdated noisy,lousy,underperforming Campro?
Proton ‘s last car on bankruptcy day will still be fitted with this NOBODY WANTS ANTIQUE engine.
Somepeople are so nostalgic.They cant see recession is looming,and the buying frenzy has died.
2016 will be triple depresssing,not doubly.
Ur god kompeni 1NZ-FE is in use for 3 vios generation and will still in use until 4040 u dun complain? topkek
Go tell your cronies UMW boss and ajib that support AP owners !!! GO and don’t waste on your parent time rasing you as lousy BN supporter !!!
But hohh, why najib-crony naza can gip value for money peugeots & kias, why najib-crony P1 can gip majority cars with value for money, why najib-crony honda can gip city E above with value for money? Is it cuz UMW knows Party Hard will suppork them and make toyota official cars? So meaning UMW toyota is Party Hard-crony is it?
So why dun u ask ur PH crony kompeni to at least gip safety for Vios G and above, hmm?
Send your car to Zordaq for full power and response enhancement.
Now feel the underpowered CamPro to alive, responsive engine
‘received a series of updates leading right up to the VVT mill found in the Iriz’
if i remember correctly, it was on this website that was reported that the IRIZ engine is totally new from head to toe….!!!!
and i commented that this is a load of bull!!
now, who’s right?
it was campro all along!
even this gdi is a campro engine!!
wanna bet?
You are hallucinating. CFE and it’s cousin NFE(VVT) was never reported as “all-new” engine. It’s still a heavily updated Campro architecture.
Don’t be surprised if Proton will sell its local customers with Cam-X-Pro while overseas market will get all the tgdi & gdi engine with better built quality car for overseas market as what had happened in the past..
What Proton can do with the old CamPro family is to license its production to Chinese, Indian or South American car companies. Proton will make millions in royalty payments.
Engine licensing is something Mitsubishi is very, VERY good at. They are smart, they use their newer, more advanced engines in their own cars, and they license their old engines to other companies. Countless brand new Chinese cars today have old Mitsubishi engines, most of which are built under license in China. Previously, Hyundai used Mitsubishi engines too, as late as the 1990s.
Proton has licensed their CamPro engine to Youngman in the past, for use in Youngman’s rebadged GEN-2 and Persona models, as well as Youngman’s own self-designed models (which used a modified GEN-2 platform). However, I don’t know if Youngman actually built the CamPro engines in China, I’m guessing not.
Proton still makes the GEN-2 in left-hand drive for select export markets. In 2015, over 500 fresh GEN-2s were built. Apparently, the Egyptian and Turkish Proton dealers keep asking for more GEN-2s and Personas (both LHD), so Proton still produces the GEN-2 exclusively for export, three years after they discontinued it locally. However, I believe Youngman went bankrupt in 2015, as there is no news whatsoever from them… and Proton has already found another Chinese partner (Goldstar).
The CamPro engine still has a lot of potential. Proton can still improve it and continue to produce the range as a low-cost option for poverty-spec models. Just look at the Rover K-Series engine… it is ancient (since the 1980s), but it’s been fine tuned over the decades and still made today (in China of course).
In layman terms “we dump CamTakPRO engine into 3rd world countries like Malaysia”..mcm meludah ke atas langit kena muka sindili
Proton,
just make sure you fit all the GDI and TGDI new engines in your Proton cars starting end of 2017 and also for Malaysian! … not only for export.
I’m waiting for 1.5L TGDI very early of 2018 and with introduction of brand new hatch or hot hatch!
Congratulations Malaysian!!! The report at the above is actually telling me that, Proton will still use CAMPRO for local productions.
sekalang anjing pun kencing kat kete foreign… Animals oso know how to choose beta quality cars… So i hope proton and perodua close shop soon
I am pretty sure everyone will ask Proton to fk off if they dare to supply old engine to local when the new engine is out.
Sometimes I wonder if people even read the article before they comment.
So, you have met the resident Proton bashers?
Basher rules to follow:
If its P1, just bash
If its made in malaysia, just bash
If any gud new in malaysia, just bash
Bash dulu, bash sekalang, bash selamanya
Lousy engine did not get replaced. Lousy pm also not replaced. …..Good MB get replace….Malaysia boleh…loh!!
U mean gud MB like Khalid Ibrahim? Party Hard bole lor! Hidup Party Hard! I lup Party Hard!
BMW service interval 20K km.
VW service interval 15K km.
Proton service interval 10K km.
Japanese brands service interval 5K km.
Proton with new engine GDI/TGDI will have service interval 20K km.
People thinks japanese brands car are reliable, it is a myth, they need 5K km service interval.
Japanese car already in 10k km service interval started few years ago. They give option to driver to choose either 5k km (semi synthetic) or 10k km (fully synthetic).
For reliable wise Japanese brands still ahead of Proton definitely. But in term of safety feature and chassis strength then Proton is better than many Japanese brands.
which japanese car got service interval 5k km? major brand such as honda,nissan,toyota got 10k km interval..perodua also..can u give us the price for 20k km oil?
Read manual carefully. At any time ambient temp is 32c, the japs car manufacturers recommend to do oil change every 5000Km
Are there any group of people uses these Proton engine on 20K interval?
Petro canada users usually go that far.
Sy pakai persona sv manual,guna semi-synthetic Castrol Magnatec..12,500km bru tukar,lupa nk service…slalu service 10,000km,skrg dh 62,000km odo…masih ok,pakai Primax95 dlm 600km dpt pegi ulang alik tmpat keja 96km sehari…
20k km service interval by bmw is what caused some of its cars have sludge problems.
Basically Campro will be a cheap low-end option in markets with not-so-strict emissions regulations. I have to say it’s a good move. There’s still many ppl that just want a simple car and don’t give much shit about emissions.
Indeed..
all bashes here talk cock only. whatever proton produce even quality like Rolls Royce price like Axia they will continue to bash because their already paid to be Red Bean army lah! Bash forever.
hahahahahah…..last time Campro engine….but nothing Pro whatsoever….Only the car has this sticker at the bootlid.
This time, Proton’s GDI might not have GDI.
Engine kosong, tipu only….
I am proud owner of CamPro.
Powerful after fine tuning.
Loves the cps version.
I hate the vvt cfe engine. Rubbish, unable to fine tune.
Those yang tech savvy, tak belajar habis.
Direct injection tak ada lubricating and cleaning properties pada valve.
Bad for air flow.
Vvt adjuating timing secara bodoh.
So, to the die hard fan tech savvy yang terlalu suka engine baru, teknologi baru, again I am a proud owner of CamPro S4PH 4L/100Km mixed city and highway.
Capable of going 220Kmh easily.
Easily left behind Toyota, Honda in terms of power and handling.
Belum forced induction, belum 2.0L lagi.
I love Proton after fine tuned,
I love the old CamPro CPS.
Latest tech just being latest, does not mean better.