DRIVEN: Proton Ertiga MPV first impressions review – rebadged Suzuki six-seater EEV is smooth and refined

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My, has it been a crazy year! It certainly has been for Proton, which has launched not just a new marketing campaign and a new logo, but also three new cars. The national carmaker kicked its product blitz in June with the D-segment Perdana, then followed it up with two successive launches in August and September with the Persona and Saga respectively.

We’ve been waiting for these cars for some time now, and after driving them it’s clear that while these cars aren’t necessarily perfect, we are seeing flashes of brilliance, particularly with the deeply-impressive Saga. But now the focus is on the last car on the launch agenda, one that is entirely out of the control of the talents within the company – the Suzuki-derived Proton Ertiga MPV.

The rationale behind it is simple. The Exora may have been Proton’s first MPV, but it’s a larger vehicle targeted at a more discerning buyer, one who wants more sophistication in their vehicle, if not more space. Meanwhile, the lower end of the market is burgeoning, with competitors left and right rushing to meet the needs of families who simply want as many seats for as little outlay as possible.

Now, Proton finally has the car to grab a slice of that pie. Available in Executive and Executive Plus variants, the Ertiga wants to be what buyers will think of when they think of a no-frills people mover, and with significantly lower development costs, will likely be priced as such. But is there any substance behind it? We put it to its paces on Proton’s test track, to find out.

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The Ertiga is different from the rest of the cars that Proton has launched this year, even the Perdana that’s based on the eighth-generation Honda Accord. As per the agreement with Suzuki, it’s pretty much identical to the Japanese-badged model, and bears nearly zero input from Proton’s engineers and designers. Same case with the Ertiga-based Mazda VX-1 too.

As such, the Ertiga is essentially a facelifted Suzuki Ertiga with the Proton badge. Not even the name has been changed, contrary to our own Danny Tan’s words at the start of the year: “the tiger-badged MPV won’t be called Ertiga, of course.” Famous last words, Danny…

Proton’s version wears the standard facelift’s milder front fascia, instead of the extroverted Peugeot-inspired face of the Ertiga Dreza. The Swift-style vertical swept-back headlights remain, but the grille is now wider to meet the lamps and gets a chrome bar running across. The front bumper has also been redesigned with a friendlier face and larger fog lamp surrounds, with chrome trim on the Executive Plus variant.

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The side profile remains nondescript, with the upswept window line and pronounced wheel arches being the only flourishes. The Ertiga’s wheel-at-each-corner stance is thanks to its sizeable wheelbase – despite being 327 mm shorter and 114 mm narrower than the Exora, the length between the axles is actually 10 mm longer. In terms of height, the Ertiga is a modest 6 mm lower than the Exora, despite the sizeable 185 mm ground clearance, meant for the rough rural roads of countries like Indonesia and India.

As for its other competitors, it’s a bit of a mixed bag – at 4,265 mm long, 1,695 mm wide and 1,685 mm tall, with a wheelbase of 2,740 mm, it is 5 mm longer and 65 mm taller than its closest rival, the Perodua Alza, but the latter’s wheelbase is also 10 mm up on the Ertiga. On the other hand, the Toyota Avanza is significantly smaller than the Ertiga in almost all aspects, only marginally besting the Proton in height.

Moving on, the rear of the car gets the tail light extensions and chrome bar seen on the facelifted model. Proton’s head of design Azlan Othman said that there was no option to remove these polarising elements, because of the agreement to take the car as is.

However, the rear bumper is taken from Indonesia’s pre-facelift Ertiga, likely due to the need to incorporate a rear fog light for the Malaysian market. Five-split-spoke alloy wheels are standard and measure 15 inches in diameter, shod with 185/65R15 GT Radial Champiro Eco tyres; they are identical to the Suzuki’s but come with centre caps carrying the new Proton logo.

Step inside and you’ll find an interior that has been carried over wholesale, with the exception of the Proton badge on the steering wheel boss. The grey-and-beige colour scheme may not appeal to everyone, but what it does do is open up the space, making the cabin seem much bigger than it is. It’s a distinct contrast to the Exora’s all-black atmosphere, which is more stylish but also gives off a more claustrophobic feel.

The Swift-derived dashboard will be familiar to anyone who has owned a late-model Suzuki, with a simple, user-friendly layout. Everything is laid out exactly as you’d expect them to be – a clear, legible instrument cluster in front of the driver and twin air vents at the top of the centre console, followed by a basic radio/CD player and three big knobs to control the air-con. The seats provide a comfortable, if upright driving position, although only the Executive Plus gets height adjustment.

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Build quality is decent – although you’ll be searching long and hard for any soft-touch plastics, everything is screwed solidly together and feels up to par with anything from Japan or Korea. More disappointing is the lack of storage space at the front of the cabin – it certainly appears that the Ertiga has been designed before the advent of the smartphone.

Aside from the shallow shelf above the glovebox, the only place you’ll be able to store items is in the sole cupholder ahead of the gearlever. Space between the seats is taken up by the handbrake, and there is no cubbyhole under it to stow your odds and ends, like the Saga does. There’s no armrest, either, nor a cupholder for the second-row seats.

Speaking of which, the middle row is a two-seater – hence making the vehicle a six-seater MPV – even though the bench very clearly has space for three. The Ertiga doesn’t have a provision for a three-point centre seat belt, so the lap belt has simply been taken out.

Proton contends that as such, second-row passengers will make better use of the rear armrest. It’s here where the car feels the roomiest – there’s acres of headroom, and the seats provide generous fore/aft adjustment (range of 240 mm, in fact), affording plenty of legroom.

Access to the third row is achieved by pulling a lever to tilt the second-row backrest and slide the whole seat forward. It’s simpler but less practical than the Exora’s one-touch-tumble seats, although the vast wheelbase ensures that there is at least a decently-sized hole to crawl into; once ensconced, you’ll find a cupholder and cubbyholes for each seat.

Legroom here is adequate even for adults, but the stadium seating – which provides an excellent view out for all three rows – does mean that headroom is at a premium for taller passengers. Still, it feels more spacious back there compared to the Perodua Alza.

As with most small three-row MPVs, boot space is tiny with all seats up, at just 135 litres; however, it expands to 400 litres with the 50:50-split third row folded (can be done without removing the headrests, unlike the Perodua), and the second row can be folded 60:40 for even more room. There’s also a false floor at the rear hiding even more storage space – the full-size spare tyre is located under the car.

Kit count is almost identical on both Executive and Executive Plus variants – standard equipment includes front and rear fog lights, rear parking sensors, USB connectivity, two 12V power sockets (including one for the second row), a rear air-con blower (with dedicated cooling coils, a significant improvement over the Alza) and four speakers.

Plump for the Plus and you get the aforementioned seat height adjuster, power-folding door mirrors with integrated LED indicators, chrome interior door handles, two front seat back pockets (as opposed to one), a multifunction steering wheel and two tweeters to make it six speakers in total. There’s no Bluetooth, keyless entry or push-button start, unfortunately, even though those items are available in countries like India.

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Safety-wise, all models come with dual airbags, ABS with EBD and Isofix child seat anchors on the second-row seats. Electronic stability control is not available, which is probably the reason why there is no Premium-badged variant with that feature. Proton has said that the Ertiga gets a four-star ASEAN NCAP crash test rating.

Sitting on a stretched Swift platform, the Ertiga is powered by the hatchback’s K14B 1.4 litre naturally-aspirated VVT petrol engine. Proton is particularly proud about the mill’s metal timing chain, an item which won’t be introduced in its own engines until the brand new GDI and TGDI engine family goes into production, slated for the end of next year.

In this application, the engine produces 92 PS at 6,000 rpm and 130 Nm at 4,000 rpm. Power is sent to the front wheels via either a five-speed manual gearbox or – the first in a long time for a Proton – a four-speed automatic transmission; the Executive Plus is only available with the slush box. Zero to 100 km/h is accomplished in 11.8 seconds with the manual and 13.9 seconds for the auto.

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In terms of fuel consumption, the Ertiga manages 5.7 litres per 100 km with the manual ‘box and 6.0 litres per 100 km with the automatic, both at a constant 90 km/h. These figures have enabled it to achieve the company’s first Energy Efficient Vehicle (EEV) certification. In comparison, the turbocharged Exora CFE CVT uses 7.8 litres per 100 km.

Away from the spec sheet, the Ertiga drives like many other MPVs, and that’s not necessarily a bad thing. With such a modest amount of power, the engine can struggle to move the people-mover around, especially fully-loaded with full-sized adults – even though the car itself is pretty light by MPV standards (1,175 kg for the manual, 1,185 kg with the auto; Exora weighs 1,480 kg).

However, the tiny mill is at least a willing participant, being revvy yet surprisingly smooth throughout. It’s also a fairly muted engine, and combined with a good suppression of road and wind noise, it makes this a very refined car at a cruise (engine pulls 2,900 rpm at 110 km/h). Directional stability is decent, too, with little effort required to keep it on the straight and narrow on Proton’s oval test track.

We also had the manual variant on test, but if you’re hoping Proton has secretly snuck in the sweet, slick ‘box from the Swift Sport, you’d be deeply disappointed. The stick between the Ertiga’s front seats is instead rubbery and a touch imprecise, although it has short throws; the clutch pedal also has a very short travel with little in the way of progression, while the throttle cutoff is a little sharp with the row-your-own ‘box. The gearing also appears to be a little short, with the manual maintaining 3,200 rpm at 110 km/h.

Moving off onto the ride simulation course, the Ertiga remains composed over broken tarmac and surface undulations, likely due to the longer wheelbase. It does, however, feel a mite firm sitting in the last two rows – the rear torsion beam has probably been made stiffer to account for the added number of passengers.

As usual, being confined to the test track means that there is no real way to sample the Ertiga’s handling. However, the steering, as with the majority of electrically-assisted systems out there, doesn’t deliver much in the way of feedback – although it is direct and accurate, and perhaps a touch heavier than the Alza’s, which is not a bad thing. The brakes, meanwhile, are impressive, with a strong and progressive pedal, and the car tracks straight and true even under hard braking.

So, at the end of the day, does the Ertiga have the substance to back its bargain basement positioning? The short answer is yes – Proton’s latest product combines the space and practicality that one expects from a budget MPV, with a level of refinement that is a noticeable step up from what buyers in this segment are used to. It helps shatter the notion that cheap MPVs are uncouth and raucous. The dedicated rear air-con blower is yet another big plus point too.

But there’s another side to this, and it’s the fact that the kit count may be a little too basic for young families, who might want a bit more in the way of gadgets and fancy toys. Nowhere else is this shortcoming shown up more than through the Alza, which is not only a proper seven-seater and has a larger, more powerful 1.5 litre engine, but is also available with a touchscreen infotainment system, a reverse camera and that all-important bodykit – although it has to be mentioned that ABS is only fitted on higher-end variants.

Ultimately, buyers interested in the Ertiga will have to check their expectations of superfluous fripperies at the door, and come to embrace the car’s focus on comfort and space. If Proton prices it just right, we have no doubt of the Ertiga’s ability to attract exactly those customers.

Proton Ertiga 1.4 Executive Plus

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Jonathan Lee

After trying to pursue a career in product design, Jonathan Lee decided to make the sideways jump into the world of car journalism instead. He therefore appreciates the aesthetic appeal of a car, but for him, the driving experience is still second to none.

 

Comments

  • Keichii on Nov 19, 2016 at 12:15 am

    Got thing i close my shop here And do rebadge business here. Cant imagine selling SCross for 130k here. Who would fall for that?

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    • Kunta Kotak Katak on Nov 19, 2016 at 10:54 am

      As long as cheap. People will buy

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      • Albert on Nov 19, 2016 at 7:03 pm

        Proton,dont follow UMW in pricing.You die a slow death.
        Price it within the rakyat’s reach.Anyway,1500 units a month sales for this Ertiga,wont really save u from asking for another BAILOUT.
        ProtoN,u r doing FIREFIGHTING,ALL THE TIME.
        yOUR SALES DROP 30 PERCENT COMPARED TO 2015.
        Better,insAf…close shop once u realise firefighting cannot save u.
        Your founder today,in a special color t shirt…no time for u.Your current kenali DOES NOT KENAL WHAT THE MARKET WANTS.

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      • Kunta bin Kinte on Nov 19, 2016 at 7:10 pm

        You don’t need to be a rocket scientist to know that this car engine is way too small at 92ps and 130NM. That is tiny. How is an engine this small going to carry 7 adults?

        No logic. What this means is that, the engine will struggle to pull the weight load. This means more wear and tear. Don’t even talk about 7 adults. Even with 2 adults and the big body of the car, this car will strain the engine so badly.

        By the way Proton, why this car got no VSC? Is this the Japanese dumping ground for the world? In Japan, it is 100% wajib to have VSC in every car. Strict government regulation.

        But in Malaysia, the Japs can dump non VSC cars in Malaysia. My advice to Japs, we are not a dumping ground.

        Malaysian lives are important. Already Proton will pay you few hundred million ringgit in royalty to Suzuki. The least the Japs can do is respect Malaysians and give us a safe car with VSC

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      • George Abdul on Nov 19, 2016 at 7:25 pm

        BUT Proton model without VSC… and self-proclaim Asia VOLVO ?!?!

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      • Jimmy on Nov 21, 2016 at 1:11 pm

        Virtually can be regarded as Proton’s first SUV with that kind of ground clearance and height in the presence of a bonnet.

        The extra 60k, including the higher interest and insurance, that you pay for a similarly equiped 1.5L 2WD Rush, is enough for you you install a new power window every single month for the next 20 years, and many people cannot see this.

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    • AutoFrenz (the original) on Nov 19, 2016 at 11:58 am

      Just what are you talking about…

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    • Amran on Nov 21, 2016 at 7:28 am

      If Perodua is copy & paste, this Ertiga is what? cut & paste?

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    • Keichii san..is that u??? :p

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  • I believe as long as the price is right, the Ertiga will be a big hit among Malaysians. The right pricing for the Executive Plus is especially crucial, seeing that it is predicted to be the most popular variant. Perodua sold more of the mid-range Alza than any other variants. This shows that not many young families put touchscreen ICE and bodykits as their top priorities while shopping for a small MPV.

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    • Kunta bin Kinte on Nov 19, 2016 at 7:52 pm

      I also hope this Ertiga saves Proton. Proton has launched 3 cars and to date, they ONLY sold 57,000 cars. Last year, without launching 3 new models, Proton managed to sell 100,000 cars. This resulted in Mustapa giving Proton RM1.5 billion.

      So, does this mean this year also Proton will get money, say RM3 billion? Since they can only sell 57,000 cars.

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    • tokmoh. on Nov 20, 2016 at 2:41 pm

      Bcuz low spec Alza has no ABS. Instead, they give bodykit for “free”, which could’ve been ABS instead. Kek.

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    • Ex VGM staff on Nov 20, 2016 at 10:56 pm

      Something which proton learnt the hard way. 1st made a micro MPV juara which nobody want to buy. 2nd after numerous numbers of meetings – decided to make a large MPV which is as spacious as estima but totally forgotten proton only had 1.3 and 1.6 engines. 3rd. Kelam kabut find a turbo. 4th realised Perodua sold more avanza than exora even though it is smaller and less powerful. To proton engineers – just try tap the accelerator of alza and notice the engine refinement.

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  • Dear paultan on Nov 19, 2016 at 1:23 am

    One word, good

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  • Ahh..vvt plus..with the timing chain, the last missing piece of puzzle in the persona to finish off the city, vios and bezza.

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    • Timing chain is no god on Nov 19, 2016 at 1:23 pm

      There’s still people who doesn’t know when to stop worshipping timing chain.

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      • Vios g first gen on Nov 19, 2016 at 7:23 pm

        Beside saving the mess to change the timing belt around every 5 years, may I know what the cons of the timing chain?

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      • Abah kau on Nov 20, 2016 at 10:57 pm

        Ask the same question again when proton new engines launch next year. All timing chain.

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    • Unknown on Nov 19, 2016 at 3:21 pm

      Bezza already have a timing chain

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      • pokmang on Nov 19, 2016 at 7:14 pm

        price it below rm65k for exec plus version, then proton can print their customer list

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      • Pak atan on Nov 20, 2016 at 9:07 am

        But bezza tonggek .. is it justify the timing chain? What the hack..!!!

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    • tokmoh. on Nov 20, 2016 at 2:42 pm

      GDI + Jatco torque converter CVT is the one needed by Proton.

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  • Aero (Member) on Nov 19, 2016 at 2:24 am

    The original Suzuki Ertiga is already a very good MPV. If it wasn’t good, Mazda wouldn’t have rebadged it too, right ? Of course, Proton will still have to assemble and market the new Ertiga well. Proton’s build quality and QC should be as good as Suzuki Indonesia’s.

    This is Proton’s chance to prove their worth to Suzuki Japan. If the Ertiga sells well, it will surely sway or even convince Suzuki to consider a more in-depth partnership with Proton. We might even see some Proton’s being rebadged as Suzukis for Indonesia in the future, who knows ?

    I strongly feel that a Proton & Suzuki partnership can and will work out very well. Both parties make similar cars for developing markets, both are small players with big potential, both can gain from each other’s expertise or resources (Lotus can work with Suzuki too).

    But we will have to wait until early 2017 to know whether Proton will indeed choose Suzuki as their partner… I hope they do. In fact, I’m pretty sure they will.

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    • Kunta bin Kinte on Nov 19, 2016 at 8:02 pm

      If Suzuki was sincere about helping Proton, they will sell the Ertiga in Malaysia with VSC like how their Ertiga’s have VSC in Japan.

      We cannot be a dumping ground for unwanted world goods anymore

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      • Aero (Member) on Nov 21, 2016 at 3:52 pm

        The Ertiga is not a global Suzuki. It is mainly sold in developing countries as a low cost MPV. From what I’ve gathered, the Ertiga is not even sold in Japan. I haven’t found any info about ESC on the Ertiga, maybe it was never designed with ESC in mind ? I’m not sure.

        But what’s sure is that according to the agreement, Proton had to accept the Ertiga as is. They couldn’t change anything (not even the cosmetic parts, let alone safety).

        Would Proton have liked to include ESC on the Ertiga ? Yes. Did Suzuki let them ? Sadly, no. The same thing was true for the Perdana 2.0 (Honda didn’t let Proton change the safety specs).

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    • Living dead on Nov 20, 2016 at 4:12 pm

      Suzuki: Nice work rebadge our cars.

      Proton: We should work more.

      Suzuki: Like buying your shares and assume gazillions of debts? Nope.

      Proton: ………….

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    • John is otak batu on Nov 20, 2016 at 11:00 pm

      If suzuki willing to rebadge saga 1.3 as Maruti for Indian market, that alone is worth 100,000 units a year market. Maybe more. But at that time maybe suzuki already owns 51% of proton, which DRB is willing to give up in order of survival.

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  • Meejawa on Nov 19, 2016 at 3:10 am

    2+1 berapa? Errr… Tiga? Lol

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  • farghmee on Nov 19, 2016 at 4:03 am

    No VSC, What year is it?

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    • Yong Tau Fu on Nov 19, 2016 at 2:57 pm

      2016

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    • Eman J on Nov 19, 2016 at 8:03 pm

      1940s

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    • Kunta bin Kinte on Nov 19, 2016 at 8:08 pm

      Go and google Paul Tan and VSC. You will see Paul Tan’s very good article on VSC. Once you read his article, you will dare not touch any non VSC car.

      Proton gives VSC in their Persona but Ertiga got no VSC.

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    • Alza also no vsc still a lot of sohais buy, Malaysian are less educated about safety of car.

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    • This is the biggest problem with proton. No consistency, no solid policy whatsoever. Bragging about safety with preve n iriz, 5 stars n etc on one day. N then suddenly did the exact opposite with saga n ertiga. Safety goes down the drain. After all these years of going down hill n bashing, proton still dont get it. Never been a fan of DRB take over n now totally spot on the idiocy.

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      • Neomax3 on Nov 23, 2016 at 5:32 pm

        Tell that to Suzuki.. It’s their policies.. same case as Perdana..

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  • bukapintubayartol on Nov 19, 2016 at 6:31 am

    Perodua better watch their back. The Alza is getting old oredi and needs to be updated with the new 2NR-FE engine and transmission from the Vios/Avanza. If I’m not mistaken, this engine will eventually be built at Sendayan. Perodua has also got to include autonomous emergency braking and lane keep assist to ensure full 5-Star NCAP.

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  • Ionic on Nov 19, 2016 at 6:39 am

    Waiting for basher to say it is underpower. Please see nissan go which has 1.2 litre engine

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  • AutoFrenz (the original) on Nov 19, 2016 at 7:39 am

    It will defitinely be a common sight on our roads…another bestseller from proton…

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  • Jonn dol on Nov 19, 2016 at 7:47 am

    The most crucial missing optional item here is a proper infotainment system with touchscreen/display unit. A big portion of potential customers will consider it a must have-item..

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    • If it was me, no need those fancy display, just proper working aircond and radio is ok. Better chanel the cost to better safety equipment such as abs. It is budget mpv after all.

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    • iqbal on Nov 27, 2016 at 5:31 pm

      later can buy better hud at accesory shop la

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  • “The all important bodykit” Did i detect ur subtle sarcasm there bro?

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  • kangkong on Nov 19, 2016 at 8:14 am

    ‘We want to be as equal safe as Volvo’ bla bla bla….Yet you offer 2 airbags and NO VSC??!!

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  • As usual when u deal with the japs they wl always give u scraps. This is third world car should have been a great addition to proton line up but it is no pride and joy, more of a hearse with no esc n 4 stars rating.

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  • Smokey on Nov 19, 2016 at 9:06 am

    When want to rebadge swift?

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  • old horse on Nov 19, 2016 at 9:19 am

    rebadge a car that cant export…and create more household debt…this counter productive only happened in robberland..

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  • Big mistake. Nobody is asking for this crap and proton still wants to sell it.

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  • Mikey on Nov 19, 2016 at 10:25 am

    Not worth waiting for when the specs are not up to mark. This Ertiga has already lost to most of its rivals B4 it begin in most of the department namely engine, transmission, size, power just to name a few.

    The only bright spark is the fuel consumption, the Ertiga manages 5.7 litres per 100 km with the manual ‘box & 6.0 litres per 100 km with the automatic.

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  • Sembang kencang kereta Proton paling selamat, safety is our priority, cakap tak serupa bikin. A family car with 2 airbag for a 6 seater car with no ESC in 2016. DOA.

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  • Dr Iqbal on Nov 19, 2016 at 11:17 am

    I need an affordable new mpv below 40k, fuel saver but still can carry load for 7 people in a time

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    • Malaysian Driver on Nov 19, 2016 at 2:42 pm

      Get userlf a used 2009 Alza, should come below 30k.

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    • oh mak lu cina on Nov 20, 2016 at 11:54 am

      No money and then want to have many kids. Whose fault is it?

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    • Dr talking about cars? Stick to your old volvo or Peugeot is a better bet

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  • Kurang on Nov 19, 2016 at 11:21 am

    110km at 2900rpm?? It’s going to suck fuel like crazy. Alza 110km only at 2300rpm. 120km at 2600rpm and 130km at 3000rpm.

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    • Who cares. RPM won’t equalise the FC

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    • Unknown on Nov 19, 2016 at 3:25 pm

      Because of the gearing bro. Have to equipped with short to make for the power deficit, that’s why the cruising rpm is high

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    • Walauweh on Nov 20, 2016 at 8:33 am

      If not,kancil,kenari,kelisa will be fuel sucker then.

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    • Salam sejahtera on Nov 20, 2016 at 8:58 pm

      Gear ratio panjang pun tapi kalau berat pun FC tinggi juga bro..enjin ertiga tu 1.4 je, jdi kena cari suitable gear ratio lah utk bagi keta tu ringan , bila ringan padel pun tak tekan banyak, hasilnya fc pun tak la tinggi..takde maknenyerr nak bagi gear ratio ertiga ni panjang tpi engine susah nak bawa..gear ratio mkin panjang, accelerate makin lembab..aq tanya kau, viva 850cc 100kmh rpm dah cecah 4000rpm kuat makan minyak tak? Macam mercedes ke tahap parah minyak viva? Tak kan

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    • shimano on Nov 21, 2016 at 1:37 pm

      in a world where cruising RPM is the ONLY determining factor of fc, then yes you are right.but in this world, you are wrong!

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  • The truth is for Malaysian market is… latest, most up to date and astronomical car technology but sell in cheap price.

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  • Proud for it to have a metal timing chain. P2 used it for 10years and today P1 is proud to introduce. Hurray!

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    • Malaysian Driver on Nov 19, 2016 at 3:38 pm

      Another dumb ass who knows nothing about cars but non stop worshipping timing chain. Ford multiple award winning Ecoboost engine uses timing belt, Volkswagon new line of Tsi engines uses belt instead of chain, so how? Ford and VW use out-dated low tech?

      Belt or chain, it doesn’t determine whether it’s a good or bad engine, many others parameters come into the equation when determining the engineering qualities of a powertrain. Of course, unless you have an over-simplified, pee-sized logic that see things based on such dichotomised absurb logic, and you may only buy a car based on whether it’s a timing chain or timing belt. Shallow, stupidity at its best, all these Perodua fanboys who knows nothing about an engine besides a timing chain.

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      • malaysian driver on Nov 20, 2016 at 4:40 pm

        the point on using chain is more on the lower maintenance costs, really. ford’s timing belt is maintenance-free, so yes, it’s not an outdated low tech.

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      • malaysian official driver 1 on Nov 20, 2016 at 4:40 pm

        the point on using chain is more on the lower maintenance costs, really. ford’s timing belt is maintenance-free, so yes, it’s not an outdated low tech.

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      • tokmoh. on Nov 20, 2016 at 4:46 pm

        Belt in Oil (BIO) is the new thing now.

        Light like belt vs heavier chain, yet lasts as long as chain.

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    • The very old Japanese / western Marque engines was using timing chain. It was changed to timing belt for it quietness and you know the belt lifetime.
      Timing Chain engine will slowly become much more noisier when used for over 1?0 000 km and above. However because the chain can last longer, no one know when to replace the chain. Timing chain can break or get too lose – slip out and damage the engine more than the belt.
      Most Japanese engines lifetime in our hot climates is around 200 000 ~ 250 000 KM mileage. Guess how much your Timing chain + those gears cost !
      And lastly ..anyone noticed Camry engine emit sound “da da dadak dak…” Ask mechanics.. ooh it is normal sound for Camry engines.

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    • Timing chain worshipper bodo…

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    • Salam sejahtera on Nov 20, 2016 at 9:03 pm

      P2 used it? They dont have any engine la bro , memang tak reti buat engine pun hahahhaa pengecut..woiii proton preve cfe dah lama pakai timing chain la bro tak payah nak bangga sangat dengan perodua yg tak reti nak buat engine..asyik nak pakai “otak luar” je memang tak tau malu mengemis minta enjin orang..lagipun, masa preve mula2 keluar dulu, preve pakai timing chain orang bising, proton skg pakai timing belt pun orang bising gak aduiii apa kejadah rakyat malaysia ni, timing belt ke, timing chain ke , dua2 keta tu masih berjalan cam keta normal, bukannya boleh terbang pun -_-

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      • Askedu on Nov 21, 2016 at 8:47 pm

        Bang… Preve CFE pki timing belt bkn chain.

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        • Timing chain la bodo, buka youtube , cari video preve masa mula2 keluar dulu

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          • Bang, saya pakai preve cfe…baru bulan lepas saya tukar timing belt.

            ke saya kena kencing dengan mekanik la ni ye? mekanik tu tipu kata tukar timing belt padahal dia tukar timing chain kt enjin preve cfe saya?

            #facepalm #bodo #sarcasm #kecikkeciktaknakmampus

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          • Kalam kuti on Nov 30, 2016 at 9:15 pm

            Mula mula keluar timing chain.. lama lama timing jd timing belt..hebat preve cfe. #sarcasm

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  • breast feeder on Nov 19, 2016 at 2:36 pm

    Any proton model tested by paultan is excellent, ertiga even better that estima. Hopeless paultan.
    32 years and still need breast feeding by the rakyat.

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  • breast feeder on Nov 19, 2016 at 2:36 pm

    Any proton model tested by paultan is excellent, ertiga even better that estima. Hopeless paultan.
    32 years and still need breast feeding by the rakyat.

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  • Kelvin Kong on Nov 19, 2016 at 3:06 pm

    Milo tin, no esc, 2 airbags, designer so so malass….

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    • Still driving your old p2? Wakeup

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    • Still better than perodua pepsi tin

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    • Jangan persoal jepunis overlo… oh wai…

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    • Walauweh on Nov 20, 2016 at 8:37 am

      Say that to suzuki. You think proton just can add on like that,like DIY?

      1st,need consent from suzuki
      2nd,need to go back to drawing board,crash test n etc which is costly for a rebadge mpv ciz donor dont come with esc n more than 2 airbags.

      So,the max u can do is the max of donor car,if not,domt rebadge,better build from the ground up

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    • Pak atan on Nov 20, 2016 at 9:10 am

      Sick P3 salesman again..

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    • Rebadge la bodo

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    • Salam sejahtera on Nov 20, 2016 at 9:08 pm

      Memperkernalkan ini lah basher yg takda otak ..ini keta rebadge , proton tak boleh tambah apa2 ciri pun dkt ertiga ni, sama juga macam mazda yg rebadge ertiga ni , memang takda beza..kalau gitu, kenapa tak bash mazda juga? Tabik tahniah la bro, aq bangga mempunyai basher2 yg bertauliah macam kau..cekap rajin dan semangat yang tinggi..basher2 beginilah yg proton mahukan agar proton menjdi maju sehingga tiada kelemahan dan proton tidak kelosshop :)

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    • What designer?copycats since dinosaur years

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  • C. P. MOHAN on Nov 19, 2016 at 6:21 pm

    “Rebranding (selling) old-technology”.

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  • Looks good. If the price is <RM50k it would be a great deal.

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  • Ben yap on Nov 20, 2016 at 1:03 am

    I stopped reading when I read 92ps and 130nm of torque. Very disappointed about the underpowered engine and don’t wanna waste time further. Nevertheless I’m here to voice out what is not right.

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  • In Indonesia, Ertiga has a good reputation for Low MPV segment (B-Segment). The comfort, driving experience, interior materials, fuel efficiency, body materials is way better than Avanza.

    I Don’t know if compared to Alza, but if compared to Daihatsu Sirion/Myvi (we have here), Ertiga feels more comfortable and smooth.

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    • Yes you are, this car is more quiet. Better NVH compare to Avanza & even worse for Alza.

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  • eriga got keyless entry

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  • Dr Iqbal on Nov 21, 2016 at 8:46 am

    This rebadge Suzuki is my hope after Alza as small MPV. Not buying Alza because of centered dashboard meter. Don’t like all MPV with that type of dashboard. Prefered the normal at the right position along the steering. Hoping Proton to sell it below 40k MYR

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  • xoxox on Nov 21, 2016 at 9:46 am

    lmao….use proton’s test cycle fuel consumption for EEV status?u got to be kidding me…

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  • tail light patung on Nov 21, 2016 at 10:11 am

    Although a bit late, but proton finally realised that fuel saving, lower maintainence, easy to drive city car will have the better market in malaysia. If the safety features are good enough then the ertiga will be good alternatives to Alza for consumer to choose.

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  • Proton shouldn’t exist in the first place

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    • Why Proton shouldn’t exist??
      Knp tk boleh Dina??
      Hina sgt ke Proton ni??
      U py family, sedara mara tk guna Proton langsung ke?

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    • Proton was the catalyst that converted msia from agricultural to industrial country from the 80s. If proton didnt exist, industrial development could not hv bloom like today and without that economy chain effect towards developing what your career is today Dina, you r not whatever u r today.

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  • nasha on Nov 21, 2016 at 12:23 pm

    proton had a good in-house developed model – ixora. dunno why they rebadging a suzuki mpv instead of evolving the ixora. perhaps must be they wanna erase all Tun’s legacy? Or proton can’t use ixora once they sold it to Mitsubishi? same goes to launching saga & persona with very little price difference. it might lead to cannibalizing own brand sales though.

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  • jayasubang on Nov 21, 2016 at 12:44 pm

    Izzit no rear defogger?

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  • letrik on Nov 21, 2016 at 1:40 pm

    Why proton no bring in diesel variant with SHVS?or is there a plan for the future?

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  • tail light patung on Nov 23, 2016 at 10:53 am

    Hopefully proton change the interior to black or dark grey color. Yucky Beige color tends to get dirty very fast especially if u got children sitting inside. If the ground clearance are low and sporty like the crossover, the ertiga will grap away a lot of avanza, livina potential buyers.

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  • vesha on Nov 24, 2016 at 3:46 am

    Why cant they just build own cars from ground up? similar brands like hyundai is launching luxury cars to compete with benzes and lexus’es …even Kia has its own luxury sedan ..Kia k900…and all we get from proton is rebadged suzukis..mitsubishis and hondas…

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  • transformer on Nov 25, 2016 at 8:54 pm

    exterior wise, the whole car looks old, like designed in 2000’s… sorry for the dated looks Suzuki, remind me of the old Kia Caren…. (its not P1 fault….) Suzuki can design cute Swift(Gen 1(1990’s), Gen 2 & current), just why cant design a better ER3????

    my only guess this ER3 is an evolution of their SX4 which comes with looks 1990’s, similar to Hyundai Matrix….

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  • HyDEr on Nov 28, 2016 at 11:47 pm

    Baru test drive ptg td bersama keluarga. Mula2 underestimate juga dengan keupayaan enjin 1.4 ertiga ini. Bila dah test drive terasa pickupnya bila tekan pedal minyak dengan mengejut untuk overtaje. Itu belum lagi tekan button o/d off pada tombol gear. Secara keseluruhannya mpv ini sgt menarik dan selesa dipandu.. Harga sgt berpatutan.. Sy rekomen “Buy!!! “

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  • Xarifa on Dec 08, 2016 at 6:09 pm

    I have test drive the car however
    1) Very expansive mpv, it should be cheaper
    2) Dinosaur era CD player, come on la proton! Everybody is going multifunction Display Head Unit and with reverse camera.
    3) Engine quite worrying, so small, can last long ka?

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  • can you compare pricing for the models show above. tq

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  • Plese help .How to instal belt timing proton wera

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