on d issue, of interior fittings.. i think it sucks too to a certain extent.but come to think bout it.. Proton has a responsibility that P2 doesn’t need to carry out.. “protecting the vendors employment market” by having NO luxury or previliges to choose upper class vendors.after all, P2 is no longer a national car assembler + not even car-maker + No National Agenda!! Perodua has been completely compromised in terms of national identitiy.

It;s SO SO funny reading some comments..saying P2 shud buy over ailing P1!!!

TM was a car passionate CEO..someone with a Heart!

Personally for me, rather the thinking of buying a sick bike company in the first place, what they should do back then was, carefully plan 10-15 years on better plastic interior a.k.a quality. From 95 up to 05 - the built quality was getting… i leave it to you guys.. you can compare a 95 wira model built quality with the later..

If those guys really fixed that thing, than i really can give them a tabik spring to them la..

Proton is the brainchild of TDM… he would choose any strategic option to salvage Proton which support the buying of Augusta which can generate projected profit in year 2010 to support Proton development cost…probably buying Augusta maybe has its own pro and cons…but sufferes would still be the public consumers..paying high bill to get a Proton car..instead, can buy cheaper foreign car without protection taxes…they need to wait until 2010 to get a better developed car ?? somehow i felt that the affluent BOD of Proton NEVER understand the consequences of their action to the poor public of this country…somehow this is the national car project and should give benfits to the public more…furthermore, car is the largest SECOND investment after real estate…

buying price =70 millions euro with debts
selling price = 1 euros with debts
Question..
a) Is the Augusta debts increased ?
b) If yes, why is that so ? Augusta loses its marekt share or competency ? Dont the public has the rights to know ?

the next thing concern is about the Malaysian culture blame..blame..blame..then..justify..justify justify..so being childish…
eg: TM justified his reason behind buying Augusta after Proton share drop from Rm9 to Rm 5… He didnt do that when Proton share increase from RM7 to RM9… Reason: Public perception that his termination is correct pushing Proton share upward intially..Well, it’s a correct thing to save his ego. Maybe everyone include me will do the same. The CORE problem is that, is such culture correct ?? Focus should be on upgrading Proton technology and not on finger-pointing..

I fully support TDM initial good motive in creating Proton..it brings in technology trasnfer (although failed), creates job employments and booming secondary industry such as spare parts and services. It also help in marketing Malaysia to the world although not much an impact. Its better none than never..However, in doing so, please spare some mental thinking towards the public at large especially the 40% Proton car owners if they are really buying car for value… With all the current mess around, lets ponder some questions around the reality of Proton towards the public:

a) the value of 40% Proton car owners vs the numbers of job employments including secondary industry ? Is it worth it in the past, now and the future ??
b) will Proton has the competitiveness now or in the future to boost market share to its original record high 60% ??
c) would it be better to closed down rendering many people jobless ?? How many would lose their income ?? On the contrast, this would lower protection tax of foregin cars. Means, more people buy import cars at cheaper price. Public especially car owners would be more happy. Foreign car manufacturer would set up local production plant which means new jobs and new foreign investment eg Thailand
d) Proton future to compete with increasing automobile companies in emerging countries such as China ?? Forming foreign alliances is active eg General Motors with Shaghai Automobile.. Can Proton compete in cheap labour cost and quality without compromising value to the local publics ??
e) Rumours that Proton would form alliances.. Will it really bring technology transfer when it failed before with Mitsubishi ? How can Perodua could increae its market share vs declining Proton ?

In short, the majority would really wish Proton to survive without compromisng the value of shareholders, potential and current car owners. Instead, readers should bring in constructive comments WITH opinions to improve instead of constant ‘nagging and criticsm’. Even in child psychology, schizorphenic (mentally unsound) persons usually originate from family with high criticism !!

hot topics… i just want to add more…
Now TM & TDM like kind of opposite party to our G.
From initial news, i thought the losses >100mil will mostly from MV. but now very clear only a portion from a big losses.
So, i will want to ask in other way to TM, what have you done to cause P1 to make such big portion of losses… you r not doing ur job??!!. that’s why no contract renewer…
I wonder why TM already become director for P1 for years but still did not know the major contributors to sales drop & losses… Did P1 well prepare themself for the AFTA ???!!

For a short term of period, yes MV is making losses, i’m not sure how long it has making lost until now. But the plan to build proton at MV’s plant & incorporate MV technologies to proton cars are a very good & long term ideals to me. Business wise, you need to plan for long term…

Just like Tun want to build national car in early 80’s, everyone rejected… but it did help to boost our economy & maintain national cash flow by reducing import cars.

The saga continues….!