More details on the new Proton Sedan
Proton has posted more information on it’s teaser page’s FAQ section. They’ve revealed the exterior dimensions of the new sedan. Let’s compare it to the GEN2 and the Waja.
| New Sedan | GEN2 | Waja | |
| Overall Length | 4477mm | 4310mm | 4465mm |
| Overall Width | 1725mm | 1725mm | 1740mm |
| Overall Height | 1438mm | 1435mm | 1420mm |
| Fuel Capacity | 50 L | 50 L | 60 L |
| Luggage Volume | 430 L | 415 L | 415 L |
| Weight | 1180 - 1210kg | 1175 - 1195kg | 1175 - 1205kg* |
*Not sure about the Waja’s weight range
The teaser page also reveals the base-line model will have 15 inch steel wheels and wheel covers with 195/60/R15 tyres, central locking, 4 power windows, alarm with immobilizer, front disc and rear drum brakes, reverse sensors, fixed rear seats, and a normal CD player with 2 speakers.
Proton New Sedan 1.6 Base-line (M) AT - RM 48,800.00
Proton New Sedan 1.6 Base-line (M) MT - RM 45,800.00
Proton New Sedan 1.6 Base-line (S) AT - RM 48,350.00
Proton New Sedan 1.6 Base-line (S) MT - RM 45,350.00
The medium-line model is further enhanced with alloy sports rims and 195/60/R15 tyres, a driver seat airbag, a foldable split rear seat bench, steering wheel audio controls, an MP3-capable CD player with 4 speakers, electrically controlled door mirrors, and foglamps.
Proton New Sedan 1.6 Medium-line (M) AT - RM 52,800.00
Proton New Sedan 1.6 Medium-line (M) MT - RM 49,800.00
The top of the range high-line model gains additional features over the medium-line model - antilock brakes and electronic brakeforce distribution, disc brakes on all four wheels, both driver and passenger airbags, and remote trunk opening.
Proton New Sedan 1.6 High-line (M) AT - RM 55,800.00
This would be the first Proton sedan with a standard driver airbag on all models except for the baseline model for budget-conscious buyers!
In related news, Proton has reported 200 bookings for the Proton New Sedan in the first two days of the pre-launch booking period.
July 24, 2007 @ 9:52 am
nice..!
(^_^)
July 24, 2007 @ 9:55 am
good job proton.. keep up on it..
July 24, 2007 @ 10:12 am
I really would like to check out how the improved dashboard will look like…
July 24, 2007 @ 10:16 am
No impressed… but better than nothing. Keep them coming.
July 24, 2007 @ 10:17 am
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xstan said,
July 24, 2007 @ 9:56 am
Been owning 3 Proton cars, Satria & 2 Wiras. No problem over 8 years. Just becoz many users satisfied with their car & didnt voice out , doesnt mean everyone hate Proton. I have no intention to get this Gen2 Sedan but simply anticipate for the launch so also the launch of the Campro CPS model.
I intend to upgrade mine to Toyota but not becoz I hated Proton but just simply say, I can afford already. I still don look down on Proton, just wish them well with since the appointment of new management. See what they can deliver.
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Absolutely agree with you… Ada Duit Beli yang termampu…. Like me, if i got biliion of money, sure 4 ferrari in my garage, big house and so on…Money’s make ppls talk… So dont bash or harsh Proton as they were would be. It will heart others feeling. Comment on their quality its ok…Thats good for Their future…. SMILE
July 24, 2007 @ 10:17 am
Please keep the discussion at a high quality, intelligent level. The same baseless bashing and personal attacks over and over again is pointless and only gives me more work in hunting them down and deleting them.
July 24, 2007 @ 10:24 am
the body line is always rising from waist line all the way to rear end.. guess u still have to best guess when reversing eh….
July 24, 2007 @ 10:25 am
OK MR PAUL… u got my back..
hmm.. for this info, i would say this model should be boom since its pricing are so competitive n pack with the necessary features form the baseline to hiline..
July 24, 2007 @ 10:25 am
wow..looks like it has more room & boot space than the Waja…
July 24, 2007 @ 10:27 am
mayonnaise
i can tell u the dash board was improving material. np more cheap feel.. also the analog clock no more this time and have been relocated.
July 24, 2007 @ 10:27 am
wow..looks like this model has bigger room & boot space compared to the Waja.
July 24, 2007 @ 10:29 am
mayonaise
dashboard used high standard material this time.. the analog clock also relocated to other place not at the up centre of dashboard. u can prove it on the launch of this car
July 24, 2007 @ 10:32 am
this car’s dimension is all larger than the waja except the width…any posibilities tat waja replacement will be coming anytime soon?
July 24, 2007 @ 10:33 am
wow…luggage volume bigger than Waja? I wonder how much they improved the head room for rear passager…
July 24, 2007 @ 10:35 am
huh? heavier then WAJA.. @.@!
July 24, 2007 @ 10:39 am
Anyway i think budjet user must at least 1 air bag for them also..
July 24, 2007 @ 10:45 am
Driven2020 said,
July 24, 2007 @ 8:27 am
LittleFire85 said,
July 23, 2007 @ 6:56 pm
Anywayz i heard that even they still using old engine, but they at least tune the engine with different output for each car.. look at Mazda, if that car is manual they tune the Hp more, while if the car is Auto, it will tune it for more torque.. Well, the engine is still same but still they can tune out 2 different kind of profile.. Why not us? Even BMW, VW also update their engine in CC, ECU, Injection system for more better FC, with no added cost! Look at the new toureq facelift! That why even the engine is old, they manage to improve the output! Compare to P1 old Campro, Ehmm.. The Hp n torque until now still the same..
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wanna tune no problem! just masuk workshop sure tune kau kau sure can squeeze some ponies out of it hahaha
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Still need extra cash.. “Even BMW, VW also update their engine in CC, ECU, Injection system for more better FC, with no added cost! Look at the new toureq facelift!”
July 24, 2007 @ 10:50 am
WAJA more width
This Latest Sedan Abit Longer and good news high roof top….. wow!!!!
Conclusion,
Longer mean good trunk… High roof top mean no more KEPALA KENA BUMBUNG
Looking forward on it….
July 24, 2007 @ 10:50 am
=_=”
July 24, 2007 @ 10:50 am
Har??? Remote trunk opening… aya that should come standard la. Not that expensive to get it done in the access shops..
July 24, 2007 @ 10:50 am
looks longer then a waja. im still looking 4ward to a waja cps wif HID .
July 24, 2007 @ 10:50 am
http://paultan.org/forum/index.php/topic,29.msg4970.html#msg4970
July 24, 2007 @ 10:51 am
I noticed the odd tyre size 195/60/R15 for the new Proton Sedan. The Gen2 Hatch and the Waja uses a 195/55/R15. What was the reason for the new Proton Sedan, which I assume uses the exact same platform of the Waja and the Gen2 Hatch, to be fitted with this odd tyre size ?
July 24, 2007 @ 10:51 am
Its taller and longer that a Waja. I think RM45K here is reasonable. The Premium (AT) Viva cost bout RM44K. By adding just bout RM1.5K, customers can go for this sedan for more space and a much bigger engine. Now, people can decide. For me, if this is my budget, then i’ll go for this sedan. The only thought i have is that, wouldn’t it be great if they launch this car equipped with the CPS engine.
It will definitely add icing to the cake.
July 24, 2007 @ 10:51 am
To PAUL…
No Leatest SPY Shots?
July 24, 2007 @ 10:53 am
infiniti
no waja replacement for the moment bcoz waja cps is about to launch in nearly time.
fairozee..
at the preview for staff. one man with 6 foot plus seat at the back without complaining his head touch the rear roof.. so no more lo rear roof
July 24, 2007 @ 10:53 am
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nizam80 said,
July 24, 2007 @ 10:51 am
Its taller and longer that a Waja. I think RM45K here is reasonable. The Premium (AT) Viva cost bout RM44K. By adding just bout RM1.5K, customers can go for this sedan for more space and a much bigger engine. Now, people can decide. For me, if this is my budget, then i’ll go for this sedan. The only thought i have is that, wouldn’t it be great if they launch this car equipped with the CPS engine.
It will definitely add icing to the cake.
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Agree…Always depends on budget and value for money….Think..Think…
July 24, 2007 @ 10:54 am
**WAJA more width
***This Latest Sedan Abit Longer and good news high roof top….. wow!!!!
Conclusion,
Longer mean good trunk… High roof top mean no more KEPALA KENA BUMBUNG
Looking forward on it….
July 24, 2007 @ 10:56 am
Remote Trunk!!!!
No need used car key anymore….Like BMW?
Absolutely fantastic….Should install in all line ..BL..ML..HL
July 24, 2007 @ 10:56 am
nizam.. it will equip with cps mybe next year but with higher price than non cps..
July 24, 2007 @ 10:59 am
khimfoh: probably thicker tyres for more comfort
July 24, 2007 @ 10:59 am
Even WAJA got wide Body good for space at the back
And here The SEDAN not to Wide as WAJA but a bit longer…..Any Idea?
Prety same?
I woudering it could same like Honda City..The latest one.. A bit longer than previous right??
WOWOWOWOWOWWWWW!!!!!!
July 24, 2007 @ 11:00 am
mr. proton said,
July 24, 2007 @ 10:56 am
“nizam.. it will equip with cps mybe next year but with higher price than non cps..”
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Ok, thanks for the info. For this model, does the Base-Line variant (RM45,350) include rear passenger headrests??
July 24, 2007 @ 11:08 am
I wish that the new sedan dashboard does not look like the current Gen2……
the pricing also can kill MYVI in no time…….
July 24, 2007 @ 11:13 am
One question. Will the sedan has CAMPRO CPS or CAMPRO tipu?
July 24, 2007 @ 11:15 am
Darn…its bigger space than Waja. Certainly a vast improvement. The price is right too. Heard the interior upgraded too. Went to Mutiara Damansara (all the way frm Ipoh) thinking I could peep @ the new Sedan, as there are some spyshot on the vehicle there..too bad. The exyerior design is typically similar to the earlier art design impression that posted in PaulTan. Crome in centre front (like the Honda City) & long horizontal crome at the rear, from the spyshot.
Price is really right…starts at RM45K for 1.6L Capro with Variable valve. This is cartainly better value than the small K cars of P2.W’ll see…
Actually the rear design of Gen 2 is unique & nice. The Front is better looking than most of the Proton cars. Not bad.
July 24, 2007 @ 11:16 am
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20v_ke35 said,
July 24, 2007 @ 11:13 am
One question. Will the sedan has CAMPRO CPS or CAMPRO tipu?
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Got Campro tipu??
I tot only Upgrade TCU for AT model… Learn dude Learn..
July 24, 2007 @ 11:19 am
Xstan dont confius…CPS=Variable valve will produce next year model as said by Mr. Proton…..Got info as well at Proton edar website
July 24, 2007 @ 11:30 am
how about FC for this sedan? is it will be similiar as waja.
July 24, 2007 @ 11:41 am
Aril….I’m not talking about CPS lah. Read this extract from Proton website:-
“have improved low-end torque which is achieved not by the long-awaited cam-profiling system (CPS) but by a new variable intake system and some tweaking of the ECU”
If I’m not mistaken its Variable Valve…no relation to CPS. Check the website of Proton.com.
July 24, 2007 @ 11:44 am
xstan said,
owh ya…this one should come with CPS…Variable intake made by BOSCH,,,,But since they said some tweak at ECU…Cool man..Yahooo
July 24, 2007 @ 11:45 am
Paul, u mentioned the Baseline comes with 195/60/R16 tyres and the Medium/High comes with 195/60/R15…
is this correct, cos then it would mean the Base comes with a bigger rim/tyre diameter..
sorry ah, @work so tak sempat go to Proton site and check
July 24, 2007 @ 11:45 am
xstan..wanted the URL..tq
July 24, 2007 @ 11:47 am
and yea, im still stumped they choose to have the Airbags/ABS only on the Auto model…
July 24, 2007 @ 11:48 am
I only found foldable rear seat useful for the ML, other than that like MP3, alloy rim, electronic mirror, fog lamps bit of useless for an additional 4K. However airbag is good for those “skilled+speed” drivers but not for me whom always adhere to the speed limit :)-
Overall BL is more than enough.
Would suggest to replace MP3+alloy rim+electronic mirror+fog lamps to LEATHER SEAT for ML.
I own another kelisa auto with electronic mirror. I must say that I never “play” with the electronic switch since first day my car going on the road!!
July 24, 2007 @ 11:50 am
aiyah… shld have read properly, cos now i’ve noticed that U can get drivers airbag with the manual tranny.. nvr quite noticed this earlier in the Proton site…
but anyhow, a High-line option for the manual would still be nice…
July 24, 2007 @ 11:59 am
yep…like others model, HL got MT….Hope one of protn staff read our comment then tadaa..15 aug got MT in HL..hahahaha..Then i should buy it
July 24, 2007 @ 12:00 pm
To Prem3377. In the last topic discussion. I thought Proton Waja and Gen.2 shared the same platform. As for Savvy and Satria Neo individual with all new platform. Anyway, thanks for some of the information you posted regarding to the steel grade.
Before I did found that the Waja steel still not as good (stiff/strong/thick) as the one used in Savvy and Satria Neo. Parts like fender and front bonnet as example. Gen.2 not sure about that as didn’t really ‘feel’ the car. haha…. Just my two cents.
This Proton new sedan should share the same platform as Waja and Gen.2. Meaning Proton have already spin off 3 different models with same platform which is a good start as try to fully utilize the same platform and reduce cost. Please correct me if I’m wrong. The anti-rust solutions have been improved. Still remember the old Saga, Wira, Satria age with their variants lots of rust problem from front bonnet, to door panel and rear boot some even the roof as the car only 4 years old. Until today, Waja body still in good condition without having rust problem yet. So don’t always say Proton never improve in quality. Here one of the proof.
Hopefully, everything is nicely build for this Proton new sedan and their future models and not only look nice on their papers.
All the best to Proton and happy motoring to all. Drive safe.
July 24, 2007 @ 12:02 pm
Read Bellow
CONSUMERS VOTE PROTON AS A READER’S DIGEST TRUSTED BRAND FOR A SECOND YEAR RUNNING…at
http://www.proton.com/about_proton/press/full_details.php?intArticleID=209
So no prob for 2006 model and beyond
Cheer
July 24, 2007 @ 12:02 pm
@piaa
Since this new saloon is heavier by 5kg, I believe its FC will be affected slightly. Aiya, dun worry la abt FC. Just as long as u drive consistently and with care, the car won’t be too thirsty. U drive ganas, then even Kancil can be thirstier than a Lambo.[/sarcasm]
“This would be the first Proton sedan with a standard driver airbag on all models except for the baseline model for budget-conscious buyers!”
I thought the current Waja 2007 FL hv twin airbag, leather seats n ABS as std. Nvrtheless, a welcoming act by Proton in this new saloon.
July 24, 2007 @ 12:05 pm
tunggu, lihat, dan buat keputusan….
dont become white rat…heheh…
50/50 chance lah…
July 24, 2007 @ 12:09 pm
Maybe proton should come out with gen2 sedan lite package … exclude all the unnesassary thing…
July 24, 2007 @ 12:10 pm
Now, Proton really study and listen to what people need. Their new marketing scheme gonna be a success. Maybe Waja can be in 1.8 form only but using Campro engine instead of Reanult with major facelift for the front portion (just look at Audi A4). I think Waja also can be the best platform for a new crossover right. Subaru has done this for their Legacy model. Cost cutting.
July 24, 2007 @ 12:15 pm
@piaa
Since this new saloon is heavier by 5kg, I believe its FC will be affected slightly. Aiya, dun worry la abt FC. Just as long as u drive consistently and with care, the car won’t be too thirsty. U drive ganas, then even Kancil can be thirstier than a Lambo.[/sarcasm]
“This would be the first Proton sedan with a standard driver airbag on all models except for the baseline model for budget-conscious buyers!â€
I thought the current Waja 2007 FL hv twin airbag, leather seats n ABS as std. Nvrtheless, a welcoming act by Proton in this new saloon.
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That waja Called WAJA premium….Upgrade from HL….So waja no more ML and HL
So this Sedan offcourse be the 1st sedan in both LIne installed with Airbag..
Good Work PROTON….
July 24, 2007 @ 12:20 pm
@ec
It is a fact that 85-95% of accidents happen below the speed limit. I hope u can sink in this quote from Jeremy Clarkson: “Speed never kills. It’s getting stationary all of a sudden, that’s what gets you”.
@Aril
Not many are convinced by RD’s award. Think of it like asking chefs to judge a ballet dancing competition. In other words, if u hv to quote something, make sure they’re in the business of car, like AUTOCAR, Top Gear, Evo, 5th Gear, etc.
I remembered previously there was also another rubbish award from “business PoV”, where Myvi won the CotY, n Altis won safest car. I may agree Myvi being CotY from “business PoV” due to its success in profiteering P2 big time, bt an Altis to defeat a 5-star Euro NCAP certified car? Wtf is dat? And I’m nt referring to some German marque, though that car is German-engineered (Clue: it has an American badge).
July 24, 2007 @ 12:26 pm
So, Proton class group compare to UMW make:-?
1. BLM = Viva
2. Savvy = Viva, MyVi
3. Gen2 Sedan = Myvi, Vios
4. Gen2 = Vios
5. Waja = Altis
6. Perdana = Camry
Maybe? Perdana is outdated..:)
July 24, 2007 @ 12:29 pm
Aril said,
That waja Called WAJA premium….Upgrade from HL….So waja no more ML and HL
So this Sedan offcourse be the 1st sedan in both LIne installed with Airbag..
Good Work PROTON….
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Well, is there still “normal”, or shud I say “lite” Waja sold by Proton now?
July 24, 2007 @ 12:31 pm
We Want PROTON We Want PROTON We Want PROTON………Did I heard someone said it on the STREET yesterday?
I hope This time PROTON wouldn’t disappointing RAKYAT! GOOD QUALITY is 1st issue.
July 24, 2007 @ 12:52 pm
tok moh.. wat paul means is standard for driver’s airbag.. not dual airbags.. that one standard in waja
July 24, 2007 @ 12:57 pm
If you ask me honestly, proton has good looks, I have to admit it. No doubt about it. But the quality issue is a huge problem. Interior has improved a lot since Tun’s time. Proton has improved a lot but I don’t like to support it due to some political reasons and race issues I won’t discuss here. But yes it is a good car, I would take proton anytime anyday over perodua. One of the biggest reason I don’t like proton is the huge tax on foreign cars make them look cheap when they are not cheap at all. Proton has about 10% tax only. ANother thing is because lots of Malaysian buy protons, I have something so common like everybody have. But as a car by itself, proton’s interior and exterior looks acceptable. They really should improve the quality of the car if they want to succeed.
July 24, 2007 @ 1:02 pm
VOLVOLOVER.. the tax is is our govt. big income.. even if proton didnt exist the tax will still high bcoz this country really depending on tax collection.
July 24, 2007 @ 1:04 pm
Tok Moh…
standard driver airbag located at stering wheel
Dual airbag is stering wheel and dashboard passanger side…
So waja is different class due upgraded version…..SO no more Waja campro STD and Waja Campro HL..all in one called WAJA premium
Meanwhile this SEDAN will be produce 3 varians..BL, ML, HL,,
Only ML and HL got Driver Airbag….+ more at HL with Passenger Airbag
So, This would be the first Proton sedan with a standard driver airbag on all models except for the baseline model for budget-conscious buyers!
Cheers,
Aril
July 24, 2007 @ 1:11 pm
so lets pray for good quality this time. but, wat i know this model has been rectify on the first batch qc prob bcos datuk syed md really particular on this matter for this model. this is model that proton needs to boost back the sale.. jus wait 15 aug..
July 24, 2007 @ 1:13 pm
Any info about the engine, mr paul?
July 24, 2007 @ 1:13 pm
thanks aril for ur support..
July 24, 2007 @ 1:17 pm
tok moh ..there’s still old stock waja got diskaun almost rm6 k.. maybe u can call the proton edar branch for more details..
July 24, 2007 @ 1:28 pm
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Azuma said,
July 24, 2007 @ 1:13 pm
Any info about the engine, mr paul?
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For the engine side…Still Used Campro 1.6 L with upgraded TCU (Auto Varians).
TCU for Better Gear Mapping.But i heart it also installed with VIM (Valve intake manifold) by BOCSH for better torque (Correct me if im wrong)
Source By PAULTAN and PROTON.com.my
July 24, 2007 @ 1:28 pm
I notice many of the sales Exec reluctant to reveal much as I know they have drive one..some just say its similar to Gen2 with a little change in interior. One particular fren , a sales exec say the interior got better higher plastic feel than the previous model. Gone are the old dashboard plastikey cheap feel..this got me even more excited. He test drive one& its better then the old model..better pick up too. Wow, all this thing, make me salivate. But donno how true…as said at this affordable price too. Phuweeee….
Mr Proton..can give a little description on the interior thing, maybe review the feel when u drive one??
July 24, 2007 @ 1:44 pm
heavy then waja ?? …. erm … but i also looking for used waja …
July 24, 2007 @ 1:44 pm
Welcome to new proton baby yang comel..
July 24, 2007 @ 2:03 pm
xstan for your info.
this gen2 sedan comes new colour scheme interior, new handbrake, new gear lever n console, new armrest, redesign seat, relocation of power window switches to driver’s door,side mirror control also there n the door lock there. glove box bigger than waja, more cup holder two in centre also for the rear occupants got two cupholders. redesign of door opening,redesign of meter cluster, no more analog clock at centre dashboard, all the swithches and the material used this time very good feel . no more cheap feel. at the preview for the staff i say man with 6 foot seated at the backseat n he said no touched at the roof. more leg room. the bonet very wide n larger than current gen2. u can open the bonet from the key. so, what i want to say.. there’s a lot improvement on the interior…
adding some more the steering feel n turning radius more improved as the cheap feel on previous model has lost.. no more failure during u turn bcoz previous gen2 turning radius so bad. also this time there are so many compartment as it was invevted to suit family needs.. thats wat i can tell u xstan..
do rush to the showroom n book the car
July 24, 2007 @ 2:06 pm
Used and New…..
Used cheap with high bank interest
New abit expensive than new but lower interst
When calculate with 7 year loan…see the result
Used per month Rm740 with 4.6%
New permonth Rm 774 with 4.1%
See? which better
July 24, 2007 @ 2:07 pm
just bought a satria neo,what can i say..never mind i dont need a big car car..neo is fine
July 24, 2007 @ 2:14 pm
i think proton should phased out some model like the waja cos protonis producing 3 models for 1.6 segment…. So, proton will not kill their own products….
July 24, 2007 @ 2:17 pm
khimfoh and paultan,
another reason using 60 series tyres i guess cause its cheaper…50 series tyres are slightly more expensive..
The Unicons,
i did mention waja and gen2 share the same platform but Gen2’s platform has higher torsional rigidity compared to waja…slightly higher that is..you feel the steel quality higher in savvy and neo mabye because of the design improvement and experience gained from producing waja and gen2..rust proofing in waja has improved alot but since tanjung malim plant.the level and standard has increased..due to high techonology methods…the next thing proton should consider is reducing the car weight…if its around 1050 kg to 1100 kg max then campro engine wont have the low end torque problem..but it not only due to the torque curve but the transmission fitted..proton engineers have improved it even when the automatic version of gen2 came out..so now with improved tcu i guess it will be better!!and with cps…it will be great!!
and about the car heavier by waja around 5 kg is not gonna make any difference on the FC..its too little to consider..but proton must learn to reduce weight…and increase safety to 5 star NCAP status…this will be great selling point in europe..and with weight saving technology..FC can be lowered and will be another selling point…this should be the next priority when designing waja replacement model and the rest of the family…
July 24, 2007 @ 2:19 pm
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wong said,
July 24, 2007 @ 2:07 pm
just bought a satria neo,what can i say..never mind i dont need a big car car..neo is fine
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Look like u feel sad…..but neo just fine…i had drive it…Feel great….But im prefer big car..:)
July 24, 2007 @ 2:24 pm
now ppl want to see real “proton”. wait till a year then buy it. see the result or comments from others. how can camry = perdana??
July 24, 2007 @ 2:31 pm
sxe10r said,
July 24, 2007 @ 1:44 pm
heavy then waja ?? …. erm … but i also looking for used waja …
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It could b bcuz of the added metal to make to car 12mm longer than the Waja.
@Aril n Mr. Proton
thnx 4 de info. I was just puzzled as why Paul consider this the 1st Proton model wit std (driver) airbag, as IMHO, Waja is the original 1st Proton model to come std wit (twin) airbag.
July 24, 2007 @ 2:32 pm
i tink the waja should go into a higher class than gen2…duo superior interior room , it should go to the 1.8cc class catagory , obviously i mean with the next new upcoming model MC3 i mean….it seems the sedan is abt to replace the wira FINALLY…price is abt the same as the wira….n given the crazy discounts given by proton for the wira now..discounts upt to rm6k !!
the sedan probably made for the average family…i tink thats y it has a higher profile tyres,emphisis on comfort rather than handling…..probably the hatchback wil be more sporty oriented….i tink thats y it wil have the CPS and not the sedan……
July 24, 2007 @ 2:39 pm
new cps not included because of safety and “comfort” reason and not suitable for new model yet? is that true mr proton or paul tan
July 24, 2007 @ 2:41 pm
if proton sell it in many variant ( different accesoceries with catchy look), it will help the car sales.
July 24, 2007 @ 2:43 pm
the small tires are used because there is only a 1.6L in the hood. Anything bigger than 15″ will be slower and consumes more fuel.
I guess this car is comparable to some elcheapo korean cars.
July 24, 2007 @ 2:50 pm
waw ! cheap then my Satria Neo , that not good lah , pautan . my Neo two doors , this new one 4 doors, and the warranty longer then my Neo.
July 24, 2007 @ 3:10 pm
e-nabilll said,
July 24, 2007 @ 2:32 pm
“i tink the waja should go into a higher class than gen2…duo superior interior room , it should go to the 1.8cc class catagory…….”
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Agreed with u. I think Waja and Perdana should be unified to only 1 platform (1.8 - 2.0 litre class). Just my opinion only. I’m sure the Proton engineers are currently doing something about it.
If this model were to catapult Proton into success in the near future, i hope they will not be as arrogant as Perodua is now. Proton, if u were to succeed, just remain humble. Please don’t be like in the 90’s, where u were arrogant.
July 24, 2007 @ 3:14 pm
andyyap said,
July 24, 2007 @ 2:50 pm
waw ! cheap then my Satria Neo , that not good lah , pautan . my Neo two doors , this new one 4 doors, and the warranty longer then my Neo.
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New model will consider like that…Hope the price will retain…
July 24, 2007 @ 3:15 pm
andyyap, maybe can modify our neo to 4 door, haha just joking,look not many 2doors in the market nowadays,usually very expensive ones,so our 2door good enough,big car with 2 door sure look ugly..as for waranty..after 2 years we can do upgrades, maybe a lowered suspension,i’ve seen one and its real cooool..
July 24, 2007 @ 3:20 pm
Woundering why proton didnt develop 1.8 Campro and 2.0 campro?..
Any info Mr Proton?
July 24, 2007 @ 3:23 pm
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wong said,
July 24, 2007 @ 3:15 pm
andyyap, maybe can modify our neo to 4 door, haha just joking,look not many 2doors in the market nowadays,usually very expensive ones,so our 2door good enough,big car with 2 door sure look ugly..as for waranty..after 2 years we can do upgrades, maybe a lowered suspension,i’ve seen one and its real cooool..
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Wong, just suggestion…at proton australia, there got huge proton fan who modified it and show into that website….They GILA GILA punya orang. They like neo and Gen2 very much……
July 24, 2007 @ 3:41 pm
can remove the back chrome.stick reflector like camry.
July 24, 2007 @ 3:45 pm
i think proton should upgrade the tail light. the current gen2 tail light like made of bicycle reflector.don u guys think so?
July 24, 2007 @ 3:49 pm
i have seen the nice tail light and also had posted here last time…It cost Rm 700….LED light..
Hope proton think about it for better good looking
July 24, 2007 @ 3:51 pm
im perodua supporter, this time i must give credit to proton
I want to wait for BLM. the price must be lower than this.
July 24, 2007 @ 4:51 pm
Demn…the H-Line is cheaper than my standard G2. My G2 cost me 58k in 2005 :(….hope proton built G2 coupe in future….2 doors gen2
July 24, 2007 @ 4:59 pm
Sudah dapat driver airbag pun bising lagi… Toyota Vios 1.5E pun ada driver airbag SAHAJA tapi takde sape bising… Apa la nasib proton.. asyik kena kutuk. BTW i’m using NEO and happy with Campro.. Its a good than my wira.
July 24, 2007 @ 5:17 pm
Mr. Proton,
Your interior information kinda pinpoint that you work for Engineering Design (ED) Department. It seems that you work for Proton. I also work at Proton. I think it is time for Proton employees not to reveal too much details about our concealed products. It is wrong for us to reveal them before it is officially launch. I know your intention is noble, but there are limits to this. But for sure I know you are not from the Powertrain department since a lot of your information about Proton’s engine is not 100% accurate.
July 24, 2007 @ 5:21 pm
i dont think they will come up with 2door gen2…i was sceptical about campro before buying Neo,but now i”m happy with it..tried 170km/h,the car is very stable,rims and tyres change to 205/50 falken,and the car feels more comfortable at uneven roads..of course the original continentals tyres is good too
July 24, 2007 @ 5:27 pm
big foot
im sorry. actually wat i done to attract more people to buy this product.. sorry. any way as a proton staff lets we pray for the success of this model.. ok. i’ll shut my mouth till our new baby launch.
July 24, 2007 @ 5:50 pm
Thank u sooooo very much Mr Proton. Appreciate it very much.
BigFoot..please lah, just allow Mr Proton to tease us a little. He does a good job by arousing us. He got my attention alrite. He simply tease us thats all…he didnt even reveal the whole thing. Good work Mr Proton. Respect u!!
I was simply soo happy with the launch of this Sedan. Its an eye opener even to Basher. I believe Proton gonna make it right this time..
July 24, 2007 @ 5:50 pm
The Gen2 Sedan and the Waja are practically identical in dimensions. Why bother to have both cars of the same size? Mind bogling people in Proton.
July 24, 2007 @ 6:06 pm
aril
if i not mistaken proton waja neo g2 auto box gearchange is fluid pressure and valve to detect transmission load in order to actuate gearchange, its not an electronic governed, like the savvy AMT.
correct me if im wrong,
July 24, 2007 @ 6:12 pm
a new model new car and a new car but old model is totally 2 different thing,nobody would buy both gen2 sedan and a waja at the same time,very simple..even my even 5 year boy can figure this out
July 24, 2007 @ 6:13 pm
**The Star**
=====SHAH ALAM: About 200 bookings have been received in just two days for the latest Proton model, to be launched by mid-August.
The yet to-be-named 1.6-litre sedan would be priced between RM45,000 and RM50,000, said Edaran Otomobil Nasional Bhd (EON) managing director Datuk Syed Hisham Syed Wazir.======
It never stop to amaze me that people jump into buying goods they havent even seen yet, (forget about touch&feeling the item). Perhaps that’s the power of marketing..or some people r just plain %@#$&^???
Think partly due to the work of ‘insiders’ like mr. proton but dont forget the motor journalist as well. If you look at adverts theres nothing much you can see, i assume proton purposely did it that way to tease pple.
So mr. Bigfoot, pls let mr.proton say what he thinks is good for proton…i dont think it hurts Proton in any way (BTW i’m not working for Proton and i’m not a proton driver). I kinda like & happy with the info tat mr.proton provide here.
No doubt the new model does look better but, buying before seeing isnt the way to go, at least not for me. But then again it just goes to show that proton still attract a lot of interest from msian.
ALL THE BEST PROTON, better ‘luck’ tis time.
July 24, 2007 @ 6:17 pm
Now Big Foot is proton Staff Powertrain department
Mr Proton is also Proton Staff Engineering Design
WOW…1 from Engine and 1 from Interior….FINALLY.. got PROTON PPL READ OUR COMMENT…
July 24, 2007 @ 6:18 pm
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Bigfoot said,
July 24, 2007 @ 5:17 pm
Mr. Proton,
Your interior information kinda pinpoint that you work for Engineering Design (ED) Department. It seems that you work for Proton. I also work at Proton. I think it is time for Proton employees not to reveal too much details about our concealed products. It is wrong for us to reveal them before it is officially launch. I know your intention is noble, but there are limits to this. But for sure I know you are not from the Powertrain department since a lot of your information about Proton’s engine is not 100% accurate.
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Hi,
So all the sudden is wrong…Hemmm, Tell us laa MR ENGINE…..How about the upgrade..Please Please….
July 24, 2007 @ 6:26 pm
a big applause to both bigfoot and mr.proton,at least mr.proton is giving me some usefull info, not from a bunch of ‘Bash street kids’..comment
July 24, 2007 @ 6:33 pm
At least Both Depart is here, Bigfoot (ENGINE) and Mr Proton (INTERIOR), meaning They are here and read hour complaint and so on…So no need to go iCARE lor…Save Petrol…hehehehehe
So how about engine???, the interior i already imagine
July 24, 2007 @ 6:54 pm
mr. proton
if what u said is true, then i wana say that Proton new management did listen to the public.. from the ugly design to a well accepted design. hopefully, i hope this is the “ONE” that will turn the company around.
so…
it is true that when people BASH, proton will improve
it is true that when there is a competition e.g. perodua, proton will improve
then..
it will be even so real, when NAP scrap, the sooner the better, to bring Honda or Toyota’s price ever closer to proton, then proton’s car quality, performance and luxury will be even closer to the likes of Honda and Toyota.
imagine if people din BASH proton, i wonder if they ever wake up… i really hope they wake up and come out with a fine car this time around..
and as for you Aril…. pls don relate proton and nationality!! we BASH so that proton will improve… we DEMAND so that proton will improve… n yes, we will keep bashing even it is perodua… n keep demanding from the best it can offer.
July 24, 2007 @ 7:00 pm
Guys guys guys hold ur horses!!!!…..sorry for being long gone. Quite busy for the past few weeks. And to Paul sorry i didnt reply ur mail, as you would have known, i cant tell any anything.
Since u guys are so anxious to know abt the engine, let me tease u guys with some info (hopefully big foot dont get angry). The engine in the sedan is the std campro engine, there will be no CPS or VIM( variable intake manifold) system installed YET. The new thing abt the engine is, the AT versions TCU
( transsmission control unit) is fine tuned in such a way that gear change pattern is much better, there will no sudden drop of gear, less jerk during change and so on….( cant reveal more.) For the manual car, the driveabilty and the throttle feel has been improved (cant reveal more oso, then bigfoot scold…hehehehehe). Other then tat, i think you guys should be patient and wait for the car to be launched. Then test drive it yourselves. ONLY THEN JUDJE THE CAR!
p/s : Personally, the Blueberry Tea, Iridescent White and Tranquility Black colours looks good!
Cheers and have a nice day!
July 24, 2007 @ 7:01 pm
Bash..bash..bash…Then? The correct way is complaint directly (i-CARE)……Here they accidently appear… Bigfoot n Mr Proton…..Dont hope other staff will read on here
Bash..bash..bash..Then? No wonder all basher dont have a car..(Sorry dude)
July 24, 2007 @ 7:02 pm
bashing with a good intention i would say..maybe like a reverse psychology thing..hmmm..not bad
July 24, 2007 @ 7:11 pm
So, Proton class group compare to UMW make:-?
1. BLM = Viva
2. Savvy = Viva, MyVi
3. Gen2 Sedan = Myvi, Vios
4. Gen2 = Vios
5. Waja = Altis
6. Perdana = Camry
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Hey, how can u compare proton with umw???
1. BLM is 1.3 n Viva is 1.0
2. Savvy is 1.2 n Myvi is 1.3
3. Gen2 Sedan is 1.6 n Vios is 1.5
Only Waja n Perdana can compare with Altis n Camry…
In UMW,
A class = Viva
B class = Myvi
B class = Vios
C class = Altis
D class = Camry
In Proton,
B class = Savvy
B class = BLM
C class = Gen 2, Gen 2 Sedan n Waja
D class = Perdana
So, y not Gen 2 Sedan replace Waja since both of them at same class n also a sedan???
July 24, 2007 @ 7:17 pm
1NZFE
I agree…Y not Waja use 1.8 L engine…Petronas had alreadt produse 1.8, 2.0, 2.2,
Proton Should consider their engine in better price. Hope to hear from both Proton Guys
July 24, 2007 @ 7:18 pm
I agree…Y not Waja use 1.8 L engine put in anaother classes…Petronas had already produce 1.8, 2.0, 2.2 engine rite
Proton Should consider their engine. Hope to hear from both Proton Guys
July 24, 2007 @ 7:30 pm
tokmoh.. ford focus for sure!!! haha
hmm.. driver seat airbag? wat does tat mean? driver’s airbag or volvo style seat airbag? yeap.. kinda agree wit waja being upgraded or up-marketed.. but make sure its priced rite.. 1.6camproTurbo? hehe.. hope they re-nose n re-butt waja wit sumtg more soothing 2 our eyes lar.. goodluck proton
July 24, 2007 @ 7:50 pm
I dont think Waja will get a turbo version.. The past 1.8L waja is a failure, that why they dont want to sell it. Now i felt that the CPS maybe just the GTI version for Satria neo.. The supercharger may just a testing unit? Haiz.. why sometime our country got petronas own engine to use, but still wasting so much money on developing own.. why not collaborate each other? They have F1 technology, P1 have what? A1, lotus technology? Anywayz Petronas also own by the G, why they cannot use it in their own subsidiary company?!?! That why i say resource wasting..
July 24, 2007 @ 7:59 pm
Waja did come out with a 1.8 renault engine,if i’m no mistaken..putting powerful engine means upgrading the brakes,suspensionchasis..etc..i dont think it’ll be cheap..like the satria gti remember?
July 24, 2007 @ 8:39 pm
If the interior is black, hope proton use piano surface instead of color spray for center panel (cd radio head unit, aircond) which previously colored in gold to avoid the color peel off in long term. AND using other removable memory other than cd for the radio (MMC, SDcard etc) built in.
I think Paul should organize a WISH LIST specially for proton and other national car maker for us to give idea/needs so that proton people can read and consider for future model
July 24, 2007 @ 8:58 pm
I am only worried about the rear passenger head room. My 180cm height cannot even rest on gen2 headrest, hitting the roof first. Hopefully this will address that. And the weird (short) driving position of the gen2
July 24, 2007 @ 9:48 pm
today went to proton showroom. the chief salesman who has seen the new car told me tat the new car will be named Proton Persona. hehe. he told me a lot of things has been improved esp d rear headroom. dashboard also a bit different, there’s a glove box, no more analogue clock in d middle, and d armrest is higher. somemore the engine has been moved higher a bit. also d power window mechanism is different from Gen 2. and he said very soon Waja will come with CPS, as well as a 3.2L seven seater from Proton, which is as big as the Toyota Alphard!!
July 24, 2007 @ 10:26 pm
Hmmm…since Gen2 Sedan (believed to be named as Persona) is ready for launch already, anyone got any update on Gen2 CPS? Spyshots already around for quite a while, production should be about ready as well…
July 24, 2007 @ 11:32 pm
mr proton,
are you really from proton?is your information correct??because i have many friends in proton..but none as given me as much info as u…and some information are very different from what you say..i am not saying you are making up stories but why everyone working in proton giving different info till many are not sure what to expect and what to expect….earlier i went to proton showroom,pretended as if i wanna buy one..and i brought my cheque book along so its more believeable..i know well bout gen2 cause my gf is using one..i was talking to the salesman and he said the sedan is basically a stretch version of gen2 with improved quality..he said materials used is very high quality…comparable with new civic and toyota..when i ask him bout engine..he said the engine is still the same but there is improvement in the tuning and more improvement in the auto version..because its the better selling unit..the gearbox is a same..only electronics tuning(TCU) is improved..but my proton friend told me its a latest unit..not the same unit used in wira to waja and waja to gen2 unit…but this transmission is a new version..a better unit compared to the previous unit and a better design..so which is true??secondly i asked about the interior..he just told me the interior quality has been improved but design wise is still the same..the meter panel got minor changes…head unit also got slight difference..larger buttons and easy to read and glove box is included..when i ask about the rest..he said door panels..dashboard architecture and all is the same…seats the front is the same and rear same also but this can fold flat…and steering he said the same..interior colour is black for seats and dashboard same like current gen2..then i ask about the booking status..he said only 3 booking so far..but he said many people are waiting..
my proton fren told me the interior got no major changes..similar to the sales man but not like Mr.proton..he said since neo interior has good record and good praises so they decided to take all the good lesson from it…the interior colour going to be dark same like the latest gen2..black at the top and dark grey at the bottom..the grey is darker than waja’s grey…the side door panel got minor changes and quality of important parts in the interior highest quality materials and it will be kinda shocking to proton owners..and magazine writers or people who review cars like Paul…and said the mp3 player is the same unit as waja…but with ipod jack and minus 2 tweeters..the steering is similar to satria neo and not current gen2..gear knob design for manual and auto has some changes..meter panel minor changes but not similar to current design…but not to worry cause proton has always come up with good design in this area…next is the glovebox…which he told is added but a small one with controlled slider(i think like how new honda civic and satria neo..open slowly..that is) but he said it small similar to neo…the seats design is also carried forward from neo…front seats and rear is the same but can fold flat like honda(he always relate to honda so i guess proton engineers are looking for inspiration and design ideas plus quality from honda..which is a good thing!!)..he said gear knob and other designs are the same..because proton feel that even if many people complain bout the gear knob..its just a design and it not a mistake or affect the braking so no changes…he said NVH for medium line and H line improved alot and for the base line version no changes compared to current gen2..so that a good thing…in short..he said quality and previous design mistakes has been changed or improved but minor changes…
and this is what mr proton told us here..
this gen2 sedan comes new colour scheme interior, new handbrake, new gear lever n console, new armrest, redesign seat, relocation of power window switches to driver’s door,side mirror control also there n the door lock there. glove box bigger than waja, more cup holder two in centre also for the rear occupants got two cupholders. redesign of door opening,redesign of meter cluster, no more analog clock at centre dashboard, all the swithches and the material used this time very good feel . no more cheap feel. at the preview for the staff i say man with 6 foot seated at the backseat n he said no touched at the roof. more leg room. the bonet very wide n larger than current gen2. u can open the bonet from the key. so, what i want to say.. there’s a lot improvement on the interior…
adding some more the steering feel n turning radius more improved as the cheap feel on previous model has lost.. no more failure during u turn bcoz previous gen2 turning radius so bad. also this time there are so many compartment as it was invevted to suit family needs.. thats wat i can tell
so there is some similarities and difference…from all who told us bout this car design…i dont who exactly i m gonna trust on this..first i tawt mr proton is one and only reliable source…but after listen to the rest i m kinda confused but looking at the add properly i noticed something which made me to trust my fren from proton…check out the front grille…did anyone notice anything??it current honda family design..haha…so we will wait to c who is right and wrong…but thanks mr proton for the info…
July 24, 2007 @ 11:59 pm
hcgui said,
July 24, 2007 @ 9:48 pm
“today went to proton showroom. the chief salesman who has seen the new car told me tat the new car will be named Proton Persona.”
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“Persona” as in the exported Wira to UK of the 90’s, huh?
July 25, 2007 @ 12:08 am
who is mr proton anyway??
July 25, 2007 @ 12:11 am
Persona…this might be the real WRM. Maybe proton stop selling wira
July 25, 2007 @ 1:36 am
Prem3377, wat info that has been provided by Mr. Proton is 100% true….i dont know which dept ur other Proton frens working in, but i can verify that Mr. Proton’s info is 100% true. About the AT transmission, its a Mitsu trans, but a different variant from the current Gen-2 AT and added together with the improved TCU. For more information on the engine upgrade, pls refer to my previous post. About the info that u got from the salesperson, maybe he doesnt know much about it since he is only working in edar or maybe he didnt have the chance to have a good look at the car. I can reassure again, the info that has been provided by Mr. Proton abt the interior is 100% true…for the info on the engine and transmission pls refer to my previous post. Cheers!
p/s: Big Foot, jgn marah ar….just clarifying things only k!!!….hahahahaha
July 25, 2007 @ 2:31 am
si-fu,
ok i trust your word and sorry mr.proton for doubting you..but if the info given is not true by both of you…never going to trust you guys forever…hahaha..just joking..is there any info about proton’s future plans and when exactly the cps engine version is coming out??and is that true that the cps engine is the best engine in its class for power and torque output??
July 25, 2007 @ 2:44 am
another thing si-fu..i heard about protons future plan..is that true proton is going to design perdana replacement model on their own with their own engine which is already in the development process??the engine is a V6 which lotus is developing for thier future model and base line model for their up coming lotus espirit??the engine which has the range of 2.2 litre to 3.0 and is going to be sold to some chinese manufacturer and proton is developing a small supercharged engine on their own for future models?which is also based on the current campro engine but the cylinder head design is similar to single vanos by bmw???is that true that proton’s last design team under old ceo has 6 other new model on the drawing board and some even already in the r&d department but had to stop because change of G and management??
is the new espirit which was about to be release in 2008 but delayed to 2010 proton’s 1st supercar and will sell under 3 names..one is proton,then lotus and opel??many more questions..but which is true??
July 25, 2007 @ 2:46 am
wah all like expecting a new born baby..very exited..
July 25, 2007 @ 2:51 am
hope proton can live up to its promise in improved quality. Actually i find the pricing very attractive for 1.6 litre proper sedan at rm48k(A) and 45k(M).
Lets see IMO, price wise this will be a head on battle with:
1.) myvi 1.3(a) @ rm46k
2.) myvi 1.3(m) @ rm 43k both also non premium.
3.) ultra mark-up price $44k viva 1.0(A) premium.
4.) another overpriced model, kenari 1.0RS(A) @ $46k
can’t wait for this persona to eat up myvi. (hint to proton marketing department) if coupled with average p1 finance rate normally lower than p2, it is probably lower monthly installments than the myvi. can’t EON bank do something to boost this? or maybe they could use the secret weapon of tan chong motor.
July 25, 2007 @ 3:03 am
theres already many myvi’s on the road..they wont get effected,not really my taste but its a fine car, hope both p1 and p2 will do well and continue with good models in future
July 25, 2007 @ 3:07 am
thanks for insider info si-fu, big foot won’t harm you don’t worry.
nearly 1 month teaser is a bit too long.
July 25, 2007 @ 3:21 am
i have few simple idea for proton and help them make money again without even hoping for VW…first to cut cost…since proton have few 1.6 models…the can use the same platform to produce a MPV a small MPV with 5 plus 2 sitting capasity like citra,stream and avanza..the cost will be kinda low because platform and engine is already there..then built a ladder frame chassis like how toyota did..a low tech,cheap and faster to build..build a small compact suv like kia sportage and suzuki vitara..buy a diesel engine from mitsubishi or other manufacturer..get 4 wheel drive technology from mitsubishi or indian manufacturer like mahindra and tata..next is colaborate with non manufacturer(small engineering company’s like recently post by paul bout the latest transmission technology and all)bring good companies and ask them for help for producing latest engines and transmissions and share profits cause its a win win situation..proton must chase away their main competitors in malaysia…it not easy but not hard…most car manufacturers here bring in their simple technology which people feel its advance…in 1990’s people think fuel injectors and DOHC are great technology so many manufacturer use that to sell cars..nowadays VVTI,VTEC,DVVT,CVT,MIVEC and all sell better..so since we have CPS its good already…then ABS plus EBD….which is considered as cheap technology nowadays…after that..since ABS and EBD is there…just add few sensors here and there plus a control box and central control unit…which connect braking..throttle..and etc and you will have VTC or ESP or VSC…all this technology is extremely cheap cause its kinda old…so if proton manage to squeeze in all of this in all their model..production cost will be lower and people will buy it…many dont know what is all this…but they think is good and worth it…many owner who drive their car with this technology never really maintain it…almost 70% of people who drive cars with airbags never even send it for yearly inspections..so many cases where airbags dont even deploy during accident and even when they do..repairing cost will be sky high many opt to leave it empty!!
so proton should use all this to get customers…imagine gen2 sedan with CPS,FSI,VIM,VSC,TC,ABS,EBD,DUAL SRS AIRBAG,mp3,AMT, and ETC…wow..it will sell like hot cake like myvi with DVVT…haha
July 25, 2007 @ 6:25 am
hmmm…. proton used to be the only manufacturer to put rear disc brakes on their 1.6l class cars ir-respective of model. now that’s been dropped for base and med-line models.
July 25, 2007 @ 8:12 am
ynnad, to be honest, cars weighing in at the weight of these small sedans, rear disc brakes are just a marketing tool. They do not help you slow the car down any quicker, or better than drum brakes can. More crucially, are the front brakes, as they do almost more than 70% of the job.
July 25, 2007 @ 8:44 am
How many time to explain lor… In this sedan still use same campro with out CPS. Neo also use same Campro without CPS but have different tuning version. BTW in this sedan will different what u feel in old Gen2. The tuning and AT version is more better than Gen2. So u cannot make a judgement just based on what u had with Gen2. Only Gen2 and Waja will get CPS in near time. So lets cool down… and pls make a test drive then u will feel a new of proton.
July 25, 2007 @ 9:04 am
Proton cars shows no suprise coz its litterally a previous model car from Mitsubishi (most likely) with some minor changes to the headlamps. Unless if they have the effort and money to design their own car from scratch, now THATS what i wanna see and wait for.
Why cant proton fit their cars standard with airbags, atleast the front passenger and driver (eventhough atleast 6 airbags is the world standard) coz i thought ’safety is our number 1 priority’ for all car manufacturers. And im well aware that accidents and deaths from roadrage is increasingly high eventhough im not living in Malaysia right now..
Well anyways, hope this car would show the world (esp. UK who finds proton having no passion in producing cars) that proton does have passion (im just trying to save our countries reputation eventhough proton is pretty, well need of saving - lets put it that way).
July 25, 2007 @