SPYSHOT: Toyota Rush long wheelbase on trailers?
A couple of months ago I posted about how a long wheelbase version of the Toyota Rush would be suitable for the Malaysian market. Now an anonymous reader has sent in snapshots of what appears to be a long wheelbase version of the Toyota Rush being transported on trailers to an unknown destination. We know this is the long wheelbase version because it has a much longer rear overhang than the short wheelbase version.
Perodua has previously indicated that the new Kembara replacement will be launched mid this year, so this is a bit too early for a Perodua Kembara replacement to be sighted on trailers. This leads me to believe that we might soon see two different versions of the same SUV being sold under two different badges - a short wheelbase Rush sold by Perodua badged as a Kembara, and a long wheelbase Rush sold by Toyota!
This strategy has been employed by Toyota and Daihatsu in Indonesia for quite some time now, as their market have both the Daihatsu Bego and the Toyota Rush, as well as the Daihatsu Xenia and the Toyota Avanza. Whether this strategy will work in Malaysia or not remains unknown, but it will be interesting to find out!
One more shot after the jump.
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January 24, 2008 @ 2:39 am
i cant wait for this SUV.. hopefully it will be the next best thing from Toyota.
January 24, 2008 @ 4:13 am
Looking forward the kembara Replacement
Any thoughts how much that going to cost ?
January 24, 2008 @ 7:38 am
Any price tag above the current Kembara price is not acceptable (for the short wheelbase version), and for Toyota Rush long wheelbase, I believe UMW Toyota should price it below Vios (below RM80K), so as to not creating a distant gap from the Perodua sibling (and also too close to Sportage’s price)
By the way, this SUV is in the compact segment, which is below the Grand Vitara, Sportage and CRV segment. Therefore, the pricing should be at least RM10K below the cheapest SUV of the segment, or it will never be attractive.
January 24, 2008 @ 7:42 am
2008..what an interesting year for automotive industry in Malaysia..
January 24, 2008 @ 7:44 am
if im not mistaken the p2 version will be around 70k-85k with 1.5liter engine…
January 24, 2008 @ 7:45 am
i will wait patiently for the new kembara for sure.!
i guess the price mightbe slightly a bit expensive from the current model though..
January 24, 2008 @ 7:50 am
Bella147 said,
January 24, 2008 @ 7:44 am
if im not mistaken the p2 version will be around 70k-85k with 1.5liter engine…
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is it Bella? where do got this info?..sadly i guess it is quite
at that price oo..
& using the same engine as the current avanza?.. :(|)
January 24, 2008 @ 8:14 am
Some insider sources said that UMWT will launch this long wheelbase 7 seater Rush 1.5L in this week!! Its a CBU from Indon with price tag sub RM80k and six month later P2 will launch its Kembara replacement using the same platform with 5 seater 1.3L. I think you were right Paul, they’re using the same strategy in Indon, to have 2 variant under different badge. Afterall, P2 is under the Toyota Group umbrella..same strategy has proven to be succesfull worldwide..
January 24, 2008 @ 8:27 am
Interesting fact here.. Daihatsu stake in perodua. Though written in Japs, if you can read mandarin no problem. Check this out.
http://www.daihatsu.co.jp/info/gaiyou/index.htm
January 24, 2008 @ 8:47 am
wahlaueh…
If P2 place
January 24, 2008 @ 9:02 am
good good
January 24, 2008 @ 9:05 am
More Picture in here.. http://paultan.org/forum/index.php/topic,721.0.html
Anyway do u think it will underpowered for a 1.5L 4wd car? LOL… 7 seater somemore, want to fight avanza market?
January 24, 2008 @ 9:18 am
Wow,
looks like Toyota/Daihatsu/P2 will have quite the market share.
6 car models, (Viva, Myvi, Vios/Yaris, Corolla, Camry)
6 MPVs (Avanza, Innova, Wish, Rav4, Rush/Kembara)
1 Pickup (Hilux)
And not to mention the countless grey market cars.
January 24, 2008 @ 9:30 am
NO! They’ll sell the new TERIOS as the new Kembara!!! That’s the prettiest little SUV in years.!
January 24, 2008 @ 9:37 am
Just wishful thinking, y’know..
January 24, 2008 @ 9:43 am
oh my god !! really arrive already ~ can’t wait to c it oo … wish my dream come true … kambara P2 … my dream …
January 24, 2008 @ 9:44 am
OOPs.. I was thinking of Daihatsu Materia, sorry..
January 24, 2008 @ 9:45 am
I saw this bfore…..
Think is the CBU Toyota Rush…. give me an impression of smaller version of new RAV4.
January 24, 2008 @ 9:45 am
if p2 is going to sell this model..then they better make it cheap..he3..btw im newbie here..
January 24, 2008 @ 9:58 am
Understand from one Toyota SA that they will launch the Rush on 1 Feb… was invited for the launch.
January 24, 2008 @ 10:07 am
can’t wait to c the real car … but how much the price will be ??
will be 65k-80k ??? hope so ~
January 24, 2008 @ 10:08 am
I do hope P2 hv the new “rush” in 1.5L engine & is a 4×2.
January 24, 2008 @ 10:17 am
mukhri88 said,
January 24, 2008 @ 9:30 am
NO! They’ll sell the new TERIOS as the new Kembara!!! That’s the prettiest little SUV in years.!
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Terios is a Kembara version of kei cars, only 660cc not suitable for m’sian market. Toyota Rush or Daihatsu Bego or coming new Kembara FMC is all the same model. By the way bro, Materia is a MUV like Kenari lah…not an SUV. All New Altis also is sold under Daihatsu batch in Japan. In term of market share, Toyota group is dominating in m’sia already. No wonder they’re world no.1 now….
January 24, 2008 @ 10:18 am
King Samurai said,
January 24, 2008 @ 8:14 am
Some insider sources said that UMWT will launch this long wheelbase 7 seater Rush 1.5L in this week!!………………..
—-> I dun think so, as Toyota currently bz with new corolla (aka altis)
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Bella147 said,
January 24, 2008 @ 7:44 am
if im not mistaken the p2 version will be around 70k-85k with 1.5liter engine…
—-> That’s exp tag price, bro. If they going for this price tag, i dont think they know what’s business all about. I would guess slighty higher price than Myvi (High Spec) for the basic model.
Anyway this is good news, and thanks for info paul. cheers
January 24, 2008 @ 10:23 am
more sleepless nights for proton ahead
January 24, 2008 @ 10:25 am
as i know toyota will launch this model next month about 100k
January 24, 2008 @ 10:27 am
UMW Toyota going to launch this Rush 7 seater soon, got the info from a sales man at UMWT. price around 80k if not mistaken. Gud alternative to normal MPV.
Now we are having a budget Crossover alternative for those who wanted a “ppl mover” but do not prefer boxy MPV.
January 24, 2008 @ 10:30 am
Toyota SA just complete their training on this toyota rush..i think this car will launch in this or next week if not mistaken, definately before CNY..
January 24, 2008 @ 10:35 am
wonder how is the SUV market doing nowadays?
for me, i still prefer a proper mpv built on a car chassis. like the stream, or odyssey, wish, livina..etc.
They handle so much better on the road(unless you’re talking about a conti-suv, example: X3-X5 which handle like sports saloons) than regular suvs, and usually have better fuel consumption as well.
January 24, 2008 @ 10:39 am
will it be underpowered? 1.5L for 7 seater SUV?
January 24, 2008 @ 11:04 am
the car war has started… first Toyota will launch, Rush… and then they will launch Perodua Kembara new edition with cheaper price… at the same time.. Proton will be testing its MPV widely to create hype for its new model lineup. Perodua must ensure that the price they offer for Kembara is very competetive and that kembara must hav its edge…
January 24, 2008 @ 11:05 am
paul u r our provider ~ ( the new car infomation ) pls also know the price soon ~ …
January 24, 2008 @ 11:06 am
kembara has its own niche market. it will definitely not compete with any proper 7 seater mpv.
January 24, 2008 @ 12:00 pm
hmmmm….2 weeks ago on my way to office in Sepang…I saw the new Kembara…with minimal disguise…of course the P2 logo was masked with them black adhesive tape…looks kinda cute I must say…
January 24, 2008 @ 12:05 pm
I saw 2 of these on a trailer in Santubong, Kuching yesterday. I wonder what were they doing in a beach resort. I thought it was the latest Rav4 but the rear doesnt seem like Rav4. There are VVTi badge on them. Although the emblem was tapped, i am pretty sure it’s a Toyota.
January 24, 2008 @ 12:14 pm
Launch date is 3rd Feb.
There are 3 variants
1.5l(manual) at 85k
1.5l (auto, normal spec) at 90k
1.5l (auto, full spec) at 95k. 2 airbags
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a160/krews/Rush_front_resize.jpg
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a160/krews/Rush_rear_resize.jpg
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a160/krews/Rush_side_resize.jpg
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a160/krews/Rush_CBU_resize.jpg
January 24, 2008 @ 12:43 pm
Tomorrow they’ll have soft launch for new Rush 7-seater, exactly price with NGL.
This SUW will attract those can’t wait for their new ride for CNY.
January 24, 2008 @ 12:55 pm
yup, the car will come in CBU and p2 will do a few cosmetic change. Maybe headlights/front/rear bumpers.. and paste p2 badge..
January 24, 2008 @ 1:22 pm
mayb tis 7 seaters is to replace avanza though d it will b abit pricier than avanza.
hv2 wait lor…
January 24, 2008 @ 1:28 pm
Hopefully it’s not too expensive la… i like 4×4…
January 24, 2008 @ 2:38 pm
Looks like the next generation Toyota Wish.
January 24, 2008 @ 3:01 pm
next generation toyota wish? mpv -> suv?
January 24, 2008 @ 3:10 pm
hazri99 said,
January 24, 2008 @ 12:14 pm
Launch date is 3rd Feb.
There are 3 variants
1.5l(manual) at 85k
1.5l (auto, normal spec) at 90k
1.5l (auto, full spec) at 95k. 2 airbags
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a160/krews/Rush_front_resize.jpg
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a160/krews/Rush_rear_resize.jpg
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a160/krews/Rush_side_resize.jpg
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a160/krews/Rush_CBU_resize.jpg
…. this is long wheel basement … oh my god … at klang port malaysia … by made in indonesia ?? huh … 85k …
auto 90k …. my dream just broke like tat ??
January 24, 2008 @ 3:12 pm
hazri99 said,
January 24, 2008 @ 12:14 pm
Launch date is 3rd Feb.
There are 3 variants
1.5l(manual) at 85k
1.5l (auto, normal spec) at 90k
1.5l (auto, full spec) at 95k. 2 airbags
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a160/krews/Rush_front_resize.jpg
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a160/krews/Rush_rear_resize.jpg
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a160/krews/Rush_side_resize.jpg
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a160/krews/Rush_CBU_resize.jpg
friend … u r the umw staft ? how u get the picture ?? very nice man !!
January 24, 2008 @ 3:14 pm
heard that this beauty got no 4wd
January 24, 2008 @ 3:47 pm
Cool looking SUV…sure it will be a Hot Seller..but beige interior a bit dissapointing..Japan Spec Rush/Daihatsu Bego interior much better than Indo made Rush but if it comes cheap then worth buying!! Hope the 1.5 engine is torquey n powerful enuff for Rush..do anybody have the engine output specs??
January 24, 2008 @ 4:06 pm
cole planet said,
January 24, 2008 @ 1:28 pm
Hopefully it’s not too expensive la… i like 4×4…
agree .. hope not expensive …. what is u price wish to be ??
can be 53k -60k ??
January 24, 2008 @ 4:12 pm
hazri’s photos look like they were taken at the Padang Jawa , Klang UMW service centre.. you can see in the background the accident damaged toyota cars… i have seen some of those cars…. scary with blood stains all over.
January 24, 2008 @ 4:13 pm
yeah heard its a 2WD only..not a 4WD..an insider info though..common toyota launch it earlier..this weekend pls..
January 24, 2008 @ 5:00 pm
Indonesian specs
http://www.toyota.co.id/cars/spesification/?Model=Rush
Invariable you will be comparing this with Grand Livina
so below is the link for you guys to compare..
http://www.nissan.com.my/vehicles/GrandLivina/M_GrandLivina/techspecs/specifications5.html
Power to Weight Ratio bsaed on my crude calculations, the 1.5 isnt too far off from the 1.6 in the livinia (based on auto model). Both cars (1.6 vs 1.5) seem to have their peak torque come at the same rpm 4400rpm. Can be pretty noisy if insulation isn’t up to par. Any comments from livina owners?
January 24, 2008 @ 6:06 pm
http://toyota.jp/rush/exterior/bodycolor/index.html
http://www.toyota.astra.co.id/rush/spec.html
http://paultan.org/archives/2008/01/24/spyshot-toyota-rush-long-wheelbase-on-trailers/
lol ~ crazy for rush/ kembara
January 24, 2008 @ 7:04 pm
LOL! Hei, Rush is in 1.5L 4X4 category, not same as livina. Nissan always dont want to have direct competition and their car is just a FRD wif 1.6L-1.8L engine. Is totally different, u cant compare both.
January 24, 2008 @ 7:18 pm
toyota can’t make money frm RAV4 so dey go 4 alternative.
lolz !!!
January 24, 2008 @ 8:27 pm
I think P2 cant wait to kick P1’s ass (P1 shud ready to fight with their MPV). The scenario is getting more interesting. Enjoy more new local car this year.
January 24, 2008 @ 10:07 pm
toyota /perodua will produce same car under different badge??
i think this gonna be a failed project..
dont compare with Indonesia market laa.. Indonesia auto market are too big.. there are over 1 billion population.. of coz there r buyers for Daihatsu xenia and toyota avanza..
yet malaysia market too small esp for SUV segmet..
January 24, 2008 @ 10:43 pm
” NEW TOYOTA AVAILABLE FOR BOOKING NOW! ”
I saw this advertisement in Guang Ming Daily today, together with the picture of Toyota Rush.
January 24, 2008 @ 10:52 pm
Hope that all people will go for the Livina and not this rush…
January 24, 2008 @ 11:27 pm
LAUNCH DATE 2nd Feb, 2008 over at Sarawak.
January 25, 2008 @ 8:21 am
What the Heck is UMW Toyota thinking?
Price already in the Sportage range. Add a little bit more (from the auto full spec price), can get a Suzuki Grand Vitara CBU from Japan.
This is OVERPRICING! Nonsense.
hazri99 said,
January 24, 2008 @ 12:14 pm
Launch date is 3rd Feb.
There are 3 variants
1.5l(manual) at 85k
1.5l (auto, normal spec) at 90k
1.5l (auto, full spec) at 95k. 2 airbags
January 25, 2008 @ 8:28 am
It is priced quiet a bit higher than expected. A little dissapointed, because its a nice looking small SUV (a little pointless though)
A slightly used CRV/X-trail might make better sense.
January 25, 2008 @ 8:38 am
normaluser said,
January 25, 2008 @ 8:21 am
What the Heck is UMW Toyota thinking?
Price already in the Sportage range. Add a little bit more (from the auto full spec price), can get a Suzuki Grand Vitara CBU from Japan.
This is OVERPRICING! Nonsense.
hazri99 said,
January 24, 2008 @ 12:14 pm
Launch date is 3rd Feb.
There are 3 variants
1.5l(manual) at 85k
1.5l (auto, normal spec) at 90k
1.5l (auto, full spec) at 95k. 2 airbags
really overprice … better take Hilux Vigo ….
January 25, 2008 @ 3:06 pm
this car priced at 100k also will sell like hot cake. coz its a got a toyota badge in it.