Comments on: International Engine of The Year 2008 Results http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/12/international-engine-of-the-year-2008-results/ Paul Tan on the Automotive Industry Tue, 02 Dec 2008 03:59:54 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.5 By: intermilan http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/12/international-engine-of-the-year-2008-results/#comment-164213 intermilan Wed, 14 May 2008 02:22:41 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/12/international-engine-of-the-year-2008-results/#comment-164213 hotwheelz said, 6. Renault 1.2 liter Turbo (Twingo, Clio, Modus) 99 Savvy engine with turbo? --------------------------------------------- maybe or maybe not the same engine. anyone could confirm? hotwheelz said,

6. Renault 1.2 liter Turbo (Twingo, Clio, Modus) 99

Savvy engine with turbo?

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maybe or maybe not the same engine. anyone could confirm?

]]> By: gajen http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/12/international-engine-of-the-year-2008-results/#comment-164115 gajen Tue, 13 May 2008 08:17:16 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/12/international-engine-of-the-year-2008-results/#comment-164115 bmw is seriously at its best...so as VW and Toyota...good job! bmw is seriously at its best…so as VW and Toyota…good job!

]]> By: REDDEVIL http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/12/international-engine-of-the-year-2008-results/#comment-164044 REDDEVIL Mon, 12 May 2008 18:37:00 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/12/international-engine-of-the-year-2008-results/#comment-164044 Ultimate Driving Machine.. BMW is the benchmark for car manufacturers. Is there any award for the worst engine of the year :) Ultimate Driving Machine.. BMW is the benchmark for car manufacturers.

Is there any award for the worst engine of the year :)

]]> By: king http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/12/international-engine-of-the-year-2008-results/#comment-164041 king Mon, 12 May 2008 17:06:06 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/12/international-engine-of-the-year-2008-results/#comment-164041 ingy, i get what you mean...but sometimes the latest/newest isn't always the best. the vw 2.0FSI engine is indeed superior to the 123d... but it is not a new engine...hence it cannot be included in best new 2008 engine category. ingy,

i get what you mean…but sometimes the latest/newest isn’t always the best. the vw 2.0FSI engine is indeed superior to the 123d… but it is not a new engine…hence it cannot be included in best new 2008 engine category.

]]> By: king http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/12/international-engine-of-the-year-2008-results/#comment-164040 king Mon, 12 May 2008 17:01:10 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/12/international-engine-of-the-year-2008-results/#comment-164040 bobdbilder said, May 13, 2008 @ 12:19 am Did they take into account Cost of Ownership/ Life Cycle Cost? Look at it this way, the more awards BMW gets, the more expensive their next car would be. Rememeber; Toyota’s projecting a smaller profit this year. I’ll bet you BMW is in for the race for the Most Profitable Auto Maker of the year award _____ that award already won by Toyota for the past 20 years. bobdbilder said,
May 13, 2008 @ 12:19 am

Did they take into account Cost of Ownership/ Life Cycle Cost? Look at it this way, the more awards BMW gets, the more expensive their next car would be. Rememeber; Toyota’s projecting a smaller profit this year. I’ll bet you BMW is in for the race for the Most Profitable Auto Maker of the year award

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that award already won by Toyota for the past 20 years.

]]> By: bobdbilder http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/12/international-engine-of-the-year-2008-results/#comment-164039 bobdbilder Mon, 12 May 2008 16:19:40 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/12/international-engine-of-the-year-2008-results/#comment-164039 Did they take into account Cost of Ownership/ Life Cycle Cost? Look at it this way, the more awards BMW gets, the more expensive their next car would be. Rememeber; Toyota's projecting a smaller profit this year. I'll bet you BMW is in for the race for the Most Profitable Auto Maker of the year award. Did they take into account Cost of Ownership/ Life Cycle Cost? Look at it this way, the more awards BMW gets, the more expensive their next car would be. Rememeber; Toyota’s projecting a smaller profit this year. I’ll bet you BMW is in for the race for the Most Profitable Auto Maker of the year award.

]]> By: ingolstadt http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/12/international-engine-of-the-year-2008-results/#comment-164037 ingolstadt Mon, 12 May 2008 16:01:53 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/12/international-engine-of-the-year-2008-results/#comment-164037 # altimi said, May 12, 2008 @ 2:34 pm How can the BEST NEW ENGINE OF THE YEAR 2008, loose out in it’s own category? If it’s new, and it’s not as good as the VAG’s 2.0 TFSi, is it any good? If it won the precedent award, it should win it’s own category award. ——————————————————————- BMW 2.0 liter twin turbodiesel (123d) 254 is a NEW engine while the turbo 2.0 TFSi is not. The operative word here is ‘NEW’. ADA PAHAM? # BanyakMasukWorkshop said, May 12, 2008 @ 5:37 pm BMW 2.0 liter twin turbodiesel (123d) 254 is a NEW engine while the turbo 2.0 TFSi is not. The operative word here is ‘NEW’. ADA PAHAM? ——————————————— *clap! *clap! *clap! ___________________________________________________________________________ That's what I'm sayin, a new engine that won BEST NEW ENGINE, which implies that pitted against other higher displacement engine with more output, or smaller displacement engine with lower emission or consumption, this engine triumphs all and got the award, but it wasn't better than an OLDER engine in it's own category? It should be better than any 2.0 engine out there, and then it's even better than any new engine launched in 08, and hence got the award for BEST NEW ENGINE. #
altimi said,

May 12, 2008 @ 2:34 pm

How can the BEST NEW ENGINE OF THE YEAR 2008, loose out in it’s own category? If it’s new, and it’s not as good as the VAG’s 2.0 TFSi, is it any good? If it won the precedent award, it should win it’s own category award.

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BMW 2.0 liter twin turbodiesel (123d) 254 is a NEW engine while the turbo 2.0 TFSi is not. The operative word here is ‘NEW’. ADA PAHAM?
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BanyakMasukWorkshop said,

May 12, 2008 @ 5:37 pm

BMW 2.0 liter twin turbodiesel (123d) 254 is a NEW engine while the turbo 2.0 TFSi is not. The operative word here is ‘NEW’. ADA PAHAM?

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*clap! *clap! *clap!
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That’s what I’m sayin, a new engine that won BEST NEW ENGINE, which implies that pitted against other higher displacement engine with more output, or smaller displacement engine with lower emission or consumption, this engine triumphs all and got the award, but it wasn’t better than an OLDER engine in it’s own category?

It should be better than any 2.0 engine out there, and then it’s even better than any new engine launched in 08, and hence got the award for BEST NEW ENGINE.

]]> By: hotwheelz http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/12/international-engine-of-the-year-2008-results/#comment-164034 hotwheelz Mon, 12 May 2008 15:16:17 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/12/international-engine-of-the-year-2008-results/#comment-164034 6. Renault 1.2 liter Turbo (Twingo, Clio, Modus) 99 Savvy engine with turbo? 6. Renault 1.2 liter Turbo (Twingo, Clio, Modus) 99

Savvy engine with turbo?

]]> By: hotwheelz http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/12/international-engine-of-the-year-2008-results/#comment-164033 hotwheelz Mon, 12 May 2008 15:14:01 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/12/international-engine-of-the-year-2008-results/#comment-164033 6. Renault 1.2 liter Turbo (Twingo, Clio, Modus) 99 Savvy engine with turbo?? 6. Renault 1.2 liter Turbo (Twingo, Clio, Modus) 99

Savvy engine with turbo??

]]> By: hamster http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/12/international-engine-of-the-year-2008-results/#comment-164018 hamster Mon, 12 May 2008 13:11:23 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/12/international-engine-of-the-year-2008-results/#comment-164018 Congrats to BMW for winning overall engine category, but too bad the majority of car buyers can only afford your 2nd and 3rd place partners.... Congrats to BMW for winning overall engine category, but too bad the majority of car buyers can only afford your 2nd and 3rd place partners….

]]> By: Auto_crat http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/12/international-engine-of-the-year-2008-results/#comment-164015 Auto_crat Mon, 12 May 2008 13:00:33 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/12/international-engine-of-the-year-2008-results/#comment-164015 Hail the Bimmer, truly 'Freude am Fahren'. None from Nissan G-TR, pity. Hail the Bimmer, truly ‘Freude am Fahren’. None from Nissan G-TR, pity.

]]> By: raybrig85 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/12/international-engine-of-the-year-2008-results/#comment-164014 raybrig85 Mon, 12 May 2008 12:54:25 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/12/international-engine-of-the-year-2008-results/#comment-164014 i tot audi diesel engine at least win...bt nt....btw...congratz to bimmer...they made it again... i tot audi diesel engine at least win…bt nt….btw…congratz to bimmer…they made it again…

]]> By: mystvearn http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/12/international-engine-of-the-year-2008-results/#comment-164004 mystvearn Mon, 12 May 2008 12:28:07 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/12/international-engine-of-the-year-2008-results/#comment-164004 Lots of BMW and VW in that list. See little honda's there. Lots of BMW and VW in that list. See little honda’s there.

]]> By: szw http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/12/international-engine-of-the-year-2008-results/#comment-164003 szw Mon, 12 May 2008 12:27:48 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/12/international-engine-of-the-year-2008-results/#comment-164003 i predicted BMW will sure win the engines of the year award . cheers BMW , do continue the domination... i predicted BMW will sure win the engines of the year award .
cheers BMW , do continue the domination…

]]> By: blazerSST http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/12/international-engine-of-the-year-2008-results/#comment-163993 blazerSST Mon, 12 May 2008 09:40:28 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/12/international-engine-of-the-year-2008-results/#comment-163993 All the top engines have snails in them, when can i get one? All the top engines have snails in them, when can i get one?

]]> By: BanyakMasukWorkshop http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/12/international-engine-of-the-year-2008-results/#comment-163992 BanyakMasukWorkshop Mon, 12 May 2008 09:37:45 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/12/international-engine-of-the-year-2008-results/#comment-163992 BMW 2.0 liter twin turbodiesel (123d) 254 is a NEW engine while the turbo 2.0 TFSi is not. The operative word here is ‘NEW’. ADA PAHAM? --------------------------------------------- *clap! *clap! *clap! BMW 2.0 liter twin turbodiesel (123d) 254 is a NEW engine while the turbo 2.0 TFSi is not. The operative word here is ‘NEW’. ADA PAHAM?

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*clap! *clap! *clap!

]]> By: altimi http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/12/international-engine-of-the-year-2008-results/#comment-163976 altimi Mon, 12 May 2008 06:34:18 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/12/international-engine-of-the-year-2008-results/#comment-163976 How can the BEST NEW ENGINE OF THE YEAR 2008, loose out in it’s own category? If it’s new, and it’s not as good as the VAG’s 2.0 TFSi, is it any good? If it won the precedent award, it should win it’s own category award. ------------------------------------------------------------------- BMW 2.0 liter twin turbodiesel (123d) 254 is a NEW engine while the turbo 2.0 TFSi is not. The operative word here is 'NEW'. ADA PAHAM? How can the BEST NEW ENGINE OF THE YEAR 2008, loose out in it’s own category? If it’s new, and it’s not as good as the VAG’s 2.0 TFSi, is it any good? If it won the precedent award, it should win it’s own category award.

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BMW 2.0 liter twin turbodiesel (123d) 254 is a NEW engine while the turbo 2.0 TFSi is not. The operative word here is ‘NEW’. ADA PAHAM?

]]> By: keyboard.rosak http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/12/international-engine-of-the-year-2008-results/#comment-163961 keyboard.rosak Mon, 12 May 2008 05:04:02 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/12/international-engine-of-the-year-2008-results/#comment-163961 ingolstadt said, May 12, 2008 @ 9:41 am How can the BEST NEW ENGINE OF THE YEAR 2008, loose out in it’s own category? If it’s new, and it’s not as good as the VAG’s 2.0 TFSi, is it any good? If it won the precedent award, it should win it’s own category award. --------------------------------- It did won in it's own category Overall International Engine Of The Year 1. BMW 3-litre Twin Turbo (335i) 380 ingolstadt said,

May 12, 2008 @ 9:41 am
How can the BEST NEW ENGINE OF THE YEAR 2008, loose out in it’s own category? If it’s new, and it’s not as good as the VAG’s 2.0 TFSi, is it any good? If it won the precedent award, it should win it’s own category award.

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It did won in it’s own category

Overall International Engine Of The Year
1. BMW 3-litre Twin Turbo (335i) 380

]]> By: jamsbong http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/12/international-engine-of-the-year-2008-results/#comment-163953 jamsbong Mon, 12 May 2008 03:21:48 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/12/international-engine-of-the-year-2008-results/#comment-163953 looks like BMW are dominating again. However, it is good to see Subaru's 2.5l Boxer is to the liking of the judges. Also, the Toyota sub 1litre winning is a standout considering Toyota is a maker of cost saving products. looks like BMW are dominating again. However, it is good to see Subaru’s 2.5l Boxer is to the liking of the judges. Also, the Toyota sub 1litre winning is a standout considering Toyota is a maker of cost saving products.

]]> By: ingolstadt http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/12/international-engine-of-the-year-2008-results/#comment-163941 ingolstadt Mon, 12 May 2008 02:32:42 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/12/international-engine-of-the-year-2008-results/#comment-163941 lchan said, May 12, 2008 @ 10:13 am I believe the best engine of the year has much more criteria to meet then the 2.0 class award. Dunno whether you're replying to me, but it seemed relevant. What you replied is spot on, how can an engine won an award that has much more criteria to meet, pitting against many other engines of different displacement, and won, but yet it looses out in its own 2.0 liter category? lchan said,

May 12, 2008 @ 10:13 am

I believe the best engine of the year has much more criteria to meet then the 2.0 class award.

Dunno whether you’re replying to me, but it seemed relevant. What you replied is spot on, how can an engine won an award that has much more criteria to meet, pitting against many other engines of different displacement, and won, but yet it looses out in its own 2.0 liter category?

]]> By: lchan http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/12/international-engine-of-the-year-2008-results/#comment-163937 lchan Mon, 12 May 2008 02:13:46 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/12/international-engine-of-the-year-2008-results/#comment-163937 I believe the best engine of the year has much more criteria to meet then the 2.0 class award. I believe the best engine of the year has much more criteria to meet then the 2.0 class award.

]]> By: ingolstadt http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/12/international-engine-of-the-year-2008-results/#comment-163929 ingolstadt Mon, 12 May 2008 01:41:40 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/12/international-engine-of-the-year-2008-results/#comment-163929 How can the BEST NEW ENGINE OF THE YEAR 2008, loose out in it's own category? If it's new, and it's not as good as the VAG's 2.0 TFSi, is it any good? If it won the precedent award, it should win it's own category award. Another notion of thought, diesels have improved very much, pitted against petrols, and given that fuel economy is a great motivator in winning any engine awards, there should be a differentiation in categories for Diesel VS Petrol. A diesel vs a petrol had as much difference in economy, driveability, frugality, smoothness as any of the two categories of different displacement pitted against each other. This EOTY award had none Nissan VQ engines since day 1, which the series of VQ engines (including that of the new GTR) had won numerous awards worldwide. Hmm .... favoritism? Or like all awards, you should be associated with the consortium in some ways to get them. How can the BEST NEW ENGINE OF THE YEAR 2008, loose out in it’s own category? If it’s new, and it’s not as good as the VAG’s 2.0 TFSi, is it any good? If it won the precedent award, it should win it’s own category award.

Another notion of thought, diesels have improved very much, pitted against petrols, and given that fuel economy is a great motivator in winning any engine awards, there should be a differentiation in categories for Diesel VS Petrol.

A diesel vs a petrol had as much difference in economy, driveability, frugality, smoothness as any of the two categories of different displacement pitted against each other.

This EOTY award had none Nissan VQ engines since day 1, which the series of VQ engines (including that of the new GTR) had won numerous awards worldwide. Hmm …. favoritism? Or like all awards, you should be associated with the consortium in some ways to get them.

]]> By: king http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/12/international-engine-of-the-year-2008-results/#comment-163927 king Mon, 12 May 2008 01:27:51 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/12/international-engine-of-the-year-2008-results/#comment-163927 aiya...i thought the new GT-R could win at least 1 award. too bad. what happened to the new lexus IS-F 5.0 litre engine? Anyway...congrats to BMW. truly the ultimate driving machine. aiya…i thought the new GT-R could win at least 1 award. too bad.

what happened to the new lexus IS-F 5.0 litre engine?

Anyway…congrats to BMW. truly the ultimate driving machine.

]]> By: bmpower http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/12/international-engine-of-the-year-2008-results/#comment-163920 bmpower Mon, 12 May 2008 01:10:52 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/12/international-engine-of-the-year-2008-results/#comment-163920 the power of BMW. The ultimate driving machine.. as name itself. no wonderlah.. Eh.. there's oso not much from Mercedes Benz? Campro submitted or not? :P the power of BMW.
The ultimate driving machine.. as name itself.
no wonderlah..

Eh.. there’s oso not much from Mercedes Benz?

Campro submitted or not? :P

]]> By: altimi http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/12/international-engine-of-the-year-2008-results/#comment-163919 altimi Mon, 12 May 2008 01:02:46 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/12/international-engine-of-the-year-2008-results/#comment-163919 Force induction rules....... Force induction rules…….

]]> By: normaluser http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/12/international-engine-of-the-year-2008-results/#comment-163917 normaluser Mon, 12 May 2008 00:35:09 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/12/international-engine-of-the-year-2008-results/#comment-163917 BMW dominates again. BMW dominates again.

]]> By: azrai http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/12/international-engine-of-the-year-2008-results/#comment-163909 azrai Sun, 11 May 2008 23:01:19 +0000 http://paultan.org/archives/2008/05/12/international-engine-of-the-year-2008-results/#comment-163909 Cute intercooler from BMW. Cute intercooler from BMW.

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