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		<title>Comment on Perodua D46T MPV test drive units on trailer en route to Perodua showrooms? by nazri</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/11/20/perodua-d46t-mpv-test-drive-units-on-trailer-en-route-to-perodua-showrooms/#comment-275493</link>
		<dc:creator>nazri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 23:56:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i think the next p2 gonna rebadge is daihatsu materia.. 
&quot;kereta juga ikan flowerhorn&quot;.. (joke only... good morning malaysia :) )</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i think the next p2 gonna rebadge is daihatsu materia..<br />
&#8220;kereta juga ikan flowerhorn&#8221;.. (joke only&#8230; good morning malaysia <img src='http://paultan.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  )</p>
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		<title>Comment on Perodua D46T MPV test drive units on trailer en route to Perodua showrooms? by adrian</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/11/20/perodua-d46t-mpv-test-drive-units-on-trailer-en-route-to-perodua-showrooms/#comment-275492</link>
		<dc:creator>adrian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 23:51:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wahhh!!! This car will be hot selling like nautica.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wahhh!!! This car will be hot selling like nautica.</p>
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		<title>Comment on New Proton Exora Basic from RM57,548! by SY0H</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/11/19/new-proton-exora-basic-from-rm57548/#comment-275491</link>
		<dc:creator>SY0H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 23:35:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>automotive designer (UK) said,

November 21, 2009 @ 7:06 am

Reverse sensors cost RM60Million to manufacture…

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True enough if this reverse sensor is a active/passive sonar as seen in most luxury vehicle. Which also provides &quot;parking assists&quot; as well. Heck, they even got car that can park itself too.

But over here we are arguing on the most basic reverse sensor to be installed on a huge Tin Milo MPV. But, I don&#039;t mind if P1 doesn&#039;t want to install. It has NEVER WORKED properly! No obstacle or got obstacle, it will always give you that constant &quot;beep&quot; sound. (Applied to P1 only). Haha.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>automotive designer (UK) said,</p>
<p>November 21, 2009 @ 7:06 am</p>
<p>Reverse sensors cost RM60Million to manufacture…</p>
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<p>True enough if this reverse sensor is a active/passive sonar as seen in most luxury vehicle. Which also provides &#8220;parking assists&#8221; as well. Heck, they even got car that can park itself too.</p>
<p>But over here we are arguing on the most basic reverse sensor to be installed on a huge Tin Milo MPV. But, I don&#8217;t mind if P1 doesn&#8217;t want to install. It has NEVER WORKED properly! No obstacle or got obstacle, it will always give you that constant &#8220;beep&#8221; sound. (Applied to P1 only). Haha.</p>
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		<title>Comment on New Proton Exora Basic from RM57,548! by SY0H</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/11/19/new-proton-exora-basic-from-rm57548/#comment-275490</link>
		<dc:creator>SY0H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 23:30:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tiadaid said,

November 21, 2009 @ 3:23 am

&quot;... The sensor would sound like you’re very close to the obstacle, eventhough there’s still some room left to reverse... &quot;

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Hello? Ain&#039;t reverse sensors supposed to do that. To &quot;beep&quot; you when you&#039;re near to the obstacle. To warn you that last few inches spacing to obstacle. And NOT to &quot;beep&quot; after you heard a LOUD THUMP as your car hits the obstacle. 

I have driven a lot of huge MPVs before, and its very tacky to reverse at blind spot area, big area are okay, but try parking at those cramp parking area at some KL shopping mall, then you know what I mean. Reverse sensor, even the most basic ones, should comes with all car models, especially MPVs. 

Especially for Malaysian drivers! Its very annoying when you come out from shopping mall or after watching movie, and find your car either scratched or hit by some idiot while reversing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tiadaid said,</p>
<p>November 21, 2009 @ 3:23 am</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230; The sensor would sound like you’re very close to the obstacle, eventhough there’s still some room left to reverse&#8230; &#8221;</p>
<p>***************************************************************************</p>
<p>Hello? Ain&#8217;t reverse sensors supposed to do that. To &#8220;beep&#8221; you when you&#8217;re near to the obstacle. To warn you that last few inches spacing to obstacle. And NOT to &#8220;beep&#8221; after you heard a LOUD THUMP as your car hits the obstacle. </p>
<p>I have driven a lot of huge MPVs before, and its very tacky to reverse at blind spot area, big area are okay, but try parking at those cramp parking area at some KL shopping mall, then you know what I mean. Reverse sensor, even the most basic ones, should comes with all car models, especially MPVs. </p>
<p>Especially for Malaysian drivers! Its very annoying when you come out from shopping mall or after watching movie, and find your car either scratched or hit by some idiot while reversing.</p>
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		<title>Comment on New Perodua MPV coming by end 2009 by tan</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2008/03/24/new-perodua-mpv-coming-in-september-2009/#comment-275489</link>
		<dc:creator>tan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 23:27:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>anyway kawan2 jom p test drive isnin ni,pas2 kita komen....hidup malaysia</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>anyway kawan2 jom p test drive isnin ni,pas2 kita komen&#8230;.hidup malaysia</p>
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		<title>Comment on New Proton Exora Basic from RM57,548! by automotive designer (UK)</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/11/19/new-proton-exora-basic-from-rm57548/#comment-275486</link>
		<dc:creator>automotive designer (UK)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 23:06:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>.haha. reverse sensors. 

.guess ur not the old school type kinda owner. But the owner who relay&#039;s on electronic stuffs. Btw. Reverse sensors cost RM60Million to manufacture... 
So. it&#039;s a huge impact if wanna cheaper car.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>.haha. reverse sensors. </p>
<p>.guess ur not the old school type kinda owner. But the owner who relay&#8217;s on electronic stuffs. Btw. Reverse sensors cost RM60Million to manufacture&#8230;<br />
So. it&#8217;s a huge impact if wanna cheaper car.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Perodua D46T MPV test drive units on trailer en route to Perodua showrooms? by slimershine</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/11/20/perodua-d46t-mpv-test-drive-units-on-trailer-en-route-to-perodua-showrooms/#comment-275481</link>
		<dc:creator>slimershine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 20:03:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;AWAS MYVI PANJANG&#039; is better eh? hahahaha...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;AWAS MYVI PANJANG&#8217; is better eh? hahahaha&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on New Proton Exora Basic from RM57,548! by Tiadaid</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/11/19/new-proton-exora-basic-from-rm57548/#comment-275478</link>
		<dc:creator>Tiadaid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 19:23:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wkshien said,
November 20, 2009 @ 9:09 pm

no abs, ebd and others accs can understand. but the basic reverse sensor for this bulky car also removed, what a f**k and stupid decision. why dont remove the rear wiper, side mirror, spare tyre, power steering, etc…

u expect people good in estimate rear distance when reverse.

f**k u proton. stupid blood suckers!!!

i’m not anti proton but this f**king rubbish really make us shame.

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Hello, you can&#039;t survive reversing without sensor? You think the sensors are accurate anyway? Not really. The sensor would sound like you&#039;re very close to  the obstacle, eventhough there&#039;s still some room left to reverse</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wkshien said,<br />
November 20, 2009 @ 9:09 pm</p>
<p>no abs, ebd and others accs can understand. but the basic reverse sensor for this bulky car also removed, what a f**k and stupid decision. why dont remove the rear wiper, side mirror, spare tyre, power steering, etc…</p>
<p>u expect people good in estimate rear distance when reverse.</p>
<p>f**k u proton. stupid blood suckers!!!</p>
<p>i’m not anti proton but this f**king rubbish really make us shame.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>Hello, you can&#8217;t survive reversing without sensor? You think the sensors are accurate anyway? Not really. The sensor would sound like you&#8217;re very close to  the obstacle, eventhough there&#8217;s still some room left to reverse</p>
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		<title>Comment on Perodua D46T MPV test drive units on trailer en route to Perodua showrooms? by Tiadaid</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/11/20/perodua-d46t-mpv-test-drive-units-on-trailer-en-route-to-perodua-showrooms/#comment-275477</link>
		<dc:creator>Tiadaid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 19:18:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Littlefire said,
November 20, 2009 @ 10:30 pm

I gonna bet that this MPV is going to put Perodua sales up up away from Proton…

Even some ppl here claim they dont have crash test, even Proton exora haven came out official crash test result from Independence NCAP.


If you&#039;re expecting EuroNCAP, you should know that they have to sell the car in Europe 1st before they can be certified by EuroNCAP...wait for them to sell the car in Europe, then we&#039;ll talk. I&#039;m sure all the other NCAP&#039;s the same. 

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Daihatsu Sirion (Myvi brother) even have 4 star rating.. Even they also have 4 air-bags + Abs. Do the maths, even reduce spec which still better?
http://www.euroncap.com/tests/daihatsu_sirion_2005/236.aspx

That&#039;s a bunch of crock. ABS, Airbag is also accounted in the NCAP rating. Just because a full spec Daihatsu Sirion get 4 star doesn&#039;t mean MyVi also 4 star. Why don&#039;t you tell Perodua to send Myvi for EuroNCAP test? Why the double standard? Enough is enough, P2 fan-boy Littlefire</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Littlefire said,<br />
November 20, 2009 @ 10:30 pm</p>
<p>I gonna bet that this MPV is going to put Perodua sales up up away from Proton…</p>
<p>Even some ppl here claim they dont have crash test, even Proton exora haven came out official crash test result from Independence NCAP.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re expecting EuroNCAP, you should know that they have to sell the car in Europe 1st before they can be certified by EuroNCAP&#8230;wait for them to sell the car in Europe, then we&#8217;ll talk. I&#8217;m sure all the other NCAP&#8217;s the same. </p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>Daihatsu Sirion (Myvi brother) even have 4 star rating.. Even they also have 4 air-bags + Abs. Do the maths, even reduce spec which still better?<br />
<a href="http://www.euroncap.com/tests/daihatsu_sirion_2005/236.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://www.euroncap.com/tests/daihatsu_sirion_2005/236.aspx</a></p>
<p>That&#8217;s a bunch of crock. ABS, Airbag is also accounted in the NCAP rating. Just because a full spec Daihatsu Sirion get 4 star doesn&#8217;t mean MyVi also 4 star. Why don&#8217;t you tell Perodua to send Myvi for EuroNCAP test? Why the double standard? Enough is enough, P2 fan-boy Littlefire</p>
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		<title>Comment on Perodua Viva Elite: a new look for the Viva by sarah</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/07/23/perodua-viva-elite/#comment-275475</link>
		<dc:creator>sarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 19:00:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>saya baru beli viva elite auto 1.0,harga rm40 ribu ada diskaun 2 ribu jadi 38 ribu.buat pergi kerja dgn pasar.sebelum nie ada pakai kenari,tapi jual sebab pernah terbalik,kena banjir.pastu beli myvi manual suami pakai,saya tak boleh bawa manual.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>saya baru beli viva elite auto 1.0,harga rm40 ribu ada diskaun 2 ribu jadi 38 ribu.buat pergi kerja dgn pasar.sebelum nie ada pakai kenari,tapi jual sebab pernah terbalik,kena banjir.pastu beli myvi manual suami pakai,saya tak boleh bawa manual.</p>
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		<title>Comment on New Proton Exora Basic from RM57,548! by automotive designer (UK)</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/11/19/new-proton-exora-basic-from-rm57548/#comment-275474</link>
		<dc:creator>automotive designer (UK)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:53:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>haha. guys. we&#039;re now talking bout Malaysia. not UK. even-though im a automotive designer in UK, i&#039;m still Malaysian. :). If yer guys wanna compare with cars here. then every car in Malaysia should be affordable. I&#039;m saying. If ya wanna Proton as good as a Bemmer or Benz. U have to pay the PRICE as the BMW or Benz (Ringgit Malaysia). 

I&#039;m sure Proton already done the market research on Malaysia before even set the price or standard of the car their making.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>haha. guys. we&#8217;re now talking bout Malaysia. not UK. even-though im a automotive designer in UK, i&#8217;m still Malaysian. <img src='http://paultan.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> . If yer guys wanna compare with cars here. then every car in Malaysia should be affordable. I&#8217;m saying. If ya wanna Proton as good as a Bemmer or Benz. U have to pay the PRICE as the BMW or Benz (Ringgit Malaysia). </p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure Proton already done the market research on Malaysia before even set the price or standard of the car their making.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Porsche 911 GT3 R replaces the GT3 Cup S by lo</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/11/20/porsche-911-gt3-r-replaces-the-gt3-cup-s/#comment-275473</link>
		<dc:creator>lo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:51:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the rear wing is huge.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the rear wing is huge.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Perodua D46T MPV test drive units on trailer en route to Perodua showrooms? by AMDunFreak</title>
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		<dc:creator>AMDunFreak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:31:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bey said,

November 20, 2009 @ 8:54 pm 

im first!!

P2 display units &amp; test drive units huhuhhu
good luck la to P2

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bey, you are not first..... hahahaha..........</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bey said,</p>
<p>November 20, 2009 @ 8:54 pm </p>
<p>im first!!</p>
<p>P2 display units &amp; test drive units huhuhhu<br />
good luck la to P2</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-<br />
bey, you are not first&#8230;.. hahahaha&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Honda &#8220;P-NUT&#8221; to make LA 2009 debut by AMDunFreak</title>
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		<dc:creator>AMDunFreak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:30:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jay said,

November 20, 2009 @ 10:48 pm 

1st


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why many people like to comment something when they have nothing to comment?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jay said,</p>
<p>November 20, 2009 @ 10:48 pm </p>
<p>1st</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-<br />
why many people like to comment something when they have nothing to comment?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Perodua D46T MPV test drive units on trailer en route to Perodua showrooms? by skiborne</title>
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		<dc:creator>skiborne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:44:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>looks good. really good. this gonna bust exora real hard if proton continues with their sandiwara n stuffs like that. alza will bust in terms of everything i guess, interior design fuel economy of course. etc etc</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>looks good. really good. this gonna bust exora real hard if proton continues with their sandiwara n stuffs like that. alza will bust in terms of everything i guess, interior design fuel economy of course. etc etc</p>
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		<title>Comment on Perodua D46T MPV test drive units on trailer en route to Perodua showrooms? by tttuuuutttt</title>
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		<dc:creator>tttuuuutttt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:43:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yaaaa tepi tepi lori bwk keranda sudah laluuuuuu!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yaaaa tepi tepi lori bwk keranda sudah laluuuuuu!!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Lotus F1 Racing has signed their first driver by fazron80</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/11/16/lotus-f1-racing-has-signed-their-first-driver/#comment-275466</link>
		<dc:creator>fazron80</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:34:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The amount of money it takes to just participate in F1 is huge. Since they are already commited so they can;t back out now. Avoid THE jambatan bengkok tragedy- the amount it takes not finishing the jambatan was more than the amount to just continue the project. Be focus on your goal and avoid mixing it with politics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The amount of money it takes to just participate in F1 is huge. Since they are already commited so they can;t back out now. Avoid THE jambatan bengkok tragedy- the amount it takes not finishing the jambatan was more than the amount to just continue the project. Be focus on your goal and avoid mixing it with politics.</p>
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		<title>Comment on New Proton Exora Basic from RM57,548! by tokmoh</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/11/19/new-proton-exora-basic-from-rm57548/#comment-275464</link>
		<dc:creator>tokmoh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:20:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>paparazi : u sure u dun mind to pay more? Then I suggest u top up a few thousand n get the M-line or H-line. Settles ur problem. No? 

Then book a MAS flight to London one-way offer RM1,248, migrate there, u can buy even Rolls-Royce there cuz in UK, cars are cheap. Here, Malaysia too expensive. What for u suffer here? Go and enjoy life, MAS is making it possible for only RM1,248. Hurry before the ticket sold out... but wait, u dun mind to pay more, right?

I recommend u go with Singapore Airlines, and experience Airbus A380. It is slightly more, but u pay quality mah... Singapore Airlines... A great way to fly</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>paparazi : u sure u dun mind to pay more? Then I suggest u top up a few thousand n get the M-line or H-line. Settles ur problem. No? </p>
<p>Then book a MAS flight to London one-way offer RM1,248, migrate there, u can buy even Rolls-Royce there cuz in UK, cars are cheap. Here, Malaysia too expensive. What for u suffer here? Go and enjoy life, MAS is making it possible for only RM1,248. Hurry before the ticket sold out&#8230; but wait, u dun mind to pay more, right?</p>
<p>I recommend u go with Singapore Airlines, and experience Airbus A380. It is slightly more, but u pay quality mah&#8230; Singapore Airlines&#8230; A great way to fly</p>
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		<title>Comment on Perodua D46T MPV test drive units on trailer en route to Perodua showrooms? by fxxtheProton</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/11/20/perodua-d46t-mpv-test-drive-units-on-trailer-en-route-to-perodua-showrooms/#comment-275463</link>
		<dc:creator>fxxtheProton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:16:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Littlefire said,
November 20, 2009 @ 10:30 pm

I gonna bet that this MPV is going to put Perodua sales up up away from Proton…

Even some ppl here claim they dont have crash test, even Proton exora haven came out official crash test result from Independence NCAP.

The most highest Proton get official is Waja, which have 3 star for having 4 air-bags + Abs. So do you think that with our 2 air-bag + abs can get over 3 star rating?!?
http://www.euroncap.com/tests/proton/impian.aspx

Daihatsu Sirion (Myvi brother) even have 4 star rating.. Even they also have 4 air-bags + Abs. Do the maths, even reduce spec which still better?
http://www.euroncap.com/tests/daihatsu_sirion_2005/236.aspx

By the way, if proton so confidence with their safety. Just show out the official report and don’t be like the federal G cover up the report on Bukit Antarabangsa.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Well said bro!

We here in malaysia, our people have to bear our own life ..risking our life on the road everyday.. yes..everyday!!   

You all know the answer, !
our hard earn money pay for the OVERPRICE vehicle ..

if the public transport is convenient enuf ...Who wanna buy a Car to suffer? we all know its not cheap! most of the time the car installment already cover major part of our salary...especially for those fresh grads~~( cos dun wanna look like old-hunk, get at least a 50k myvi ) ..

Do any of u know, if you were to take a bus from Puchong to Ikea, the curve (ok..drive time maybe 20 minutes) do u know how ????

answer is. there is no direct route from puchong to One U..BU,KD.. the bus have to go to KL first then change bas !!! GOSH!!!!!!!!!!!!!

do u believe tat????

Guys, think... and that;s one of the big issue, why we dun have much tourist compare to our neighbour coutries~~


Since we were push to drive our own car...support local made Proton..
but yet it does not give us the basic we need...
We need safety..

while the latest volvo C60 is having the latest safety system ( the car will stop by itself if it sense danger) I dun expect we have the same..
but at least dun make our life suffer..

and the strongest point is.

if you think AH1N1 is scary..kill a lot..
wait until u compare to our nation mortality in road accidents!

anyone wanna find out the real stats that how many ppl are kill on the road each year?? and how many involve proton cars..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Littlefire said,<br />
November 20, 2009 @ 10:30 pm</p>
<p>I gonna bet that this MPV is going to put Perodua sales up up away from Proton…</p>
<p>Even some ppl here claim they dont have crash test, even Proton exora haven came out official crash test result from Independence NCAP.</p>
<p>The most highest Proton get official is Waja, which have 3 star for having 4 air-bags + Abs. So do you think that with our 2 air-bag + abs can get over 3 star rating?!?<br />
<a href="http://www.euroncap.com/tests/proton/impian.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://www.euroncap.com/tests/proton/impian.aspx</a></p>
<p>Daihatsu Sirion (Myvi brother) even have 4 star rating.. Even they also have 4 air-bags + Abs. Do the maths, even reduce spec which still better?<br />
<a href="http://www.euroncap.com/tests/daihatsu_sirion_2005/236.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://www.euroncap.com/tests/daihatsu_sirion_2005/236.aspx</a></p>
<p>By the way, if proton so confidence with their safety. Just show out the official report and don’t be like the federal G cover up the report on Bukit Antarabangsa.<br />
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~</p>
<p>Well said bro!</p>
<p>We here in malaysia, our people have to bear our own life ..risking our life on the road everyday.. yes..everyday!!   </p>
<p>You all know the answer, !<br />
our hard earn money pay for the OVERPRICE vehicle ..</p>
<p>if the public transport is convenient enuf &#8230;Who wanna buy a Car to suffer? we all know its not cheap! most of the time the car installment already cover major part of our salary&#8230;especially for those fresh grads~~( cos dun wanna look like old-hunk, get at least a 50k myvi ) ..</p>
<p>Do any of u know, if you were to take a bus from Puchong to Ikea, the curve (ok..drive time maybe 20 minutes) do u know how ????</p>
<p>answer is. there is no direct route from puchong to One U..BU,KD.. the bus have to go to KL first then change bas !!! GOSH!!!!!!!!!!!!!</p>
<p>do u believe tat????</p>
<p>Guys, think&#8230; and that;s one of the big issue, why we dun have much tourist compare to our neighbour coutries~~</p>
<p>Since we were push to drive our own car&#8230;support local made Proton..<br />
but yet it does not give us the basic we need&#8230;<br />
We need safety..</p>
<p>while the latest volvo C60 is having the latest safety system ( the car will stop by itself if it sense danger) I dun expect we have the same..<br />
but at least dun make our life suffer..</p>
<p>and the strongest point is.</p>
<p>if you think AH1N1 is scary..kill a lot..<br />
wait until u compare to our nation mortality in road accidents!</p>
<p>anyone wanna find out the real stats that how many ppl are kill on the road each year?? and how many involve proton cars..</p>
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		<title>Comment on Malaysian Volvo S40 updated with 2.0 liter engine and Powershift twin clutch transmission! by HeicoSportiv</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/10/15/malaysian-volvo-s40-updated-with-2-0-liter-engine-and-powershift-twin-clutch-transmission/#comment-275462</link>
		<dc:creator>HeicoSportiv</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:16:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>where got s80 T6 in malaysia???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>where got s80 T6 in malaysia???</p>
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		<title>Comment on Perodua D46T MPV test drive units on trailer en route to Perodua showrooms? by Fridz</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/11/20/perodua-d46t-mpv-test-drive-units-on-trailer-en-route-to-perodua-showrooms/#comment-275461</link>
		<dc:creator>Fridz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:14:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kereta Juga MPV...?

What a theme?...funny and confusing...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kereta Juga MPV&#8230;?</p>
<p>What a theme?&#8230;funny and confusing&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Exora &#8220;B-Line&#8221; to stave off Perodua attack by fazron80</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/11/18/exora-b-line-to-stave-off-perodua-attack/#comment-275460</link>
		<dc:creator>fazron80</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:13:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think proton&#039;s manual gearbox are alright. But their auto gearbox auto not so good. Maybe ratio not right. Don&#039;t really know. Somehow for me auto blm is nicer to drive than auto persona. Maybe for BLM Proton have more experience with gearbox. Back to topic, P2 will surely fight back this attack from P1. We&#039;ll just see. I hope by 2011 Proton will do exora facelift to keep the interest on exora going. Please no kedai abang bodykit facelift. Do a proper facelift.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think proton&#8217;s manual gearbox are alright. But their auto gearbox auto not so good. Maybe ratio not right. Don&#8217;t really know. Somehow for me auto blm is nicer to drive than auto persona. Maybe for BLM Proton have more experience with gearbox. Back to topic, P2 will surely fight back this attack from P1. We&#8217;ll just see. I hope by 2011 Proton will do exora facelift to keep the interest on exora going. Please no kedai abang bodykit facelift. Do a proper facelift.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Perodua D46T MPV test drive units on trailer en route to Perodua showrooms? by mockviper</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/11/20/perodua-d46t-mpv-test-drive-units-on-trailer-en-route-to-perodua-showrooms/#comment-275459</link>
		<dc:creator>mockviper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:13:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it should b &quot;Awas, kenderaan tak cukup panjang&quot;
its not a real MPV so they dare not say its an MPV. so Kereta juga MPV it is..
5+2 seater... not a full 7 seater. (but im sure it will be 6+2 seater since the front seat is single bench type)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it should b &#8220;Awas, kenderaan tak cukup panjang&#8221;<br />
its not a real MPV so they dare not say its an MPV. so Kereta juga MPV it is..<br />
5+2 seater&#8230; not a full 7 seater. (but im sure it will be 6+2 seater since the front seat is single bench type)</p>
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		<title>Comment on Perodua D46T MPV test drive units on trailer en route to Perodua showrooms? by fxxtheProton</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/11/20/perodua-d46t-mpv-test-drive-units-on-trailer-en-route-to-perodua-showrooms/#comment-275457</link>
		<dc:creator>fxxtheProton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:59:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CRASH TEST??   NAhhhh!!

u buy one can try it on ur highway urself!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CRASH TEST??   NAhhhh!!</p>
<p>u buy one can try it on ur highway urself!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Perodua D46T MPV test drive units on trailer en route to Perodua showrooms? by BW</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/11/20/perodua-d46t-mpv-test-drive-units-on-trailer-en-route-to-perodua-showrooms/#comment-275456</link>
		<dc:creator>BW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:57:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i saw the fully uncovered Perodua MPV on trailer here in kuching yesterday and i also saw the name of the MPV and it&#039;s purple!! But i think i better not mention the name here first :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i saw the fully uncovered Perodua MPV on trailer here in kuching yesterday and i also saw the name of the MPV and it&#8217;s purple!! But i think i better not mention the name here first <img src='http://paultan.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on Perodua D46T MPV test drive units on trailer en route to Perodua showrooms? by kerelbort</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/11/20/perodua-d46t-mpv-test-drive-units-on-trailer-en-route-to-perodua-showrooms/#comment-275455</link>
		<dc:creator>kerelbort</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:54:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@little fire - take away the 4 airbag + abs... the rating will reduce significantly. ;) and exora independent test crash will not shown in NCAP and the reason it is not NCAPed yet, exora still not for Briton market yet. Once they planned to enter that market they will need to go for the NCAP. The relevant test crash carried out by a spanish(?) test crash company (if not mistaken) and the result can be translated to 4 star NCAP. give exora 12 airbag and redesigned the front portion of the car MIGHT give it 5 star. but there&#039;s no demand for MPV in Briton as they go for wagon.


anyhoo... the way P2 pack their car really begging anybody to take a spyshot of the trailer with the motto &#039;Kereta juga MPV&#039; as their marketing strategi..  I guess they would do better to market the car as a wagon.. so it would look like they are opening a new auto-market(wagon) and not opposing other MPV already proven in the market now.

and.. i really not sure why people saying exora can tapau after alva adora launch.. exora waiting list still standing at 3 months, 
1. p1 can set exora-alva gap wider by introducing the forced induce engine by midst 2010.
2. while P2 started the marketing for alva in 2010, exora already on a snowball market and p1 has started their waja replacement marketing in-which i hope they going to drop waja badge and give it the impian badge. They might not bother lots by Alva since the market rules pioneer get bigger pie slice. (case: myvi &#124; savvy ; even if both on different segment)

Do anyone have any idea what&#039;s next for P2? Paul? Littlefire?
my opinion in the evolution of P2 model
Kancil, Kelisa -&gt; Viva
Kembara -&gt; Nautica
Kenari -&gt; Myvi + Alva ( i think this should be the case since Kenari mark as mini MPV and Myvi looks like a compact MPV and Alva is an extended Myvi)
Rusa -&gt; halted P2 model replaced by Avanza</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@little fire &#8211; take away the 4 airbag + abs&#8230; the rating will reduce significantly. <img src='http://paultan.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  and exora independent test crash will not shown in NCAP and the reason it is not NCAPed yet, exora still not for Briton market yet. Once they planned to enter that market they will need to go for the NCAP. The relevant test crash carried out by a spanish(?) test crash company (if not mistaken) and the result can be translated to 4 star NCAP. give exora 12 airbag and redesigned the front portion of the car MIGHT give it 5 star. but there&#8217;s no demand for MPV in Briton as they go for wagon.</p>
<p>anyhoo&#8230; the way P2 pack their car really begging anybody to take a spyshot of the trailer with the motto &#8216;Kereta juga MPV&#8217; as their marketing strategi..  I guess they would do better to market the car as a wagon.. so it would look like they are opening a new auto-market(wagon) and not opposing other MPV already proven in the market now.</p>
<p>and.. i really not sure why people saying exora can tapau after alva adora launch.. exora waiting list still standing at 3 months,<br />
1. p1 can set exora-alva gap wider by introducing the forced induce engine by midst 2010.<br />
2. while P2 started the marketing for alva in 2010, exora already on a snowball market and p1 has started their waja replacement marketing in-which i hope they going to drop waja badge and give it the impian badge. They might not bother lots by Alva since the market rules pioneer get bigger pie slice. (case: myvi | savvy ; even if both on different segment)</p>
<p>Do anyone have any idea what&#8217;s next for P2? Paul? Littlefire?<br />
my opinion in the evolution of P2 model<br />
Kancil, Kelisa -&gt; Viva<br />
Kembara -&gt; Nautica<br />
Kenari -&gt; Myvi + Alva ( i think this should be the case since Kenari mark as mini MPV and Myvi looks like a compact MPV and Alva is an extended Myvi)<br />
Rusa -&gt; halted P2 model replaced by Avanza</p>
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		<title>Comment on Perodua D46T MPV test drive units on trailer en route to Perodua showrooms? by Sean</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/11/20/perodua-d46t-mpv-test-drive-units-on-trailer-en-route-to-perodua-showrooms/#comment-275454</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:51:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like the &quot;Awas Kenderaan Panjang&quot; better!</description>
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		<title>Comment on Porsche 911 GT3 R replaces the GT3 Cup S by GL3n</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/11/20/porsche-911-gt3-r-replaces-the-gt3-cup-s/#comment-275452</link>
		<dc:creator>GL3n</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:45:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dog-boxes...
Just like the one used in BMW M3 GTR
Veeeeery noisy!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dog-boxes&#8230;<br />
Just like the one used in BMW M3 GTR<br />
Veeeeery noisy!</p>
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		<title>Comment on New Proton Exora Basic from RM57,548! by mockviper</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/11/19/new-proton-exora-basic-from-rm57548/#comment-275451</link>
		<dc:creator>mockviper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:44:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mick said,
malaysia’s safety standard = no airbag,no abs,no ebd..etc, how to reduce car accidently like tat??
..............................
simple, dont drive like typical Malaysian.. which is RUDE.
seriously.. accident rates can be reduce drastically... 

with srs, abs, eba, ebd, tcs, esp, vcs and etc.. doesnt mean that u wont involve in an accident, unless you change your driving attitude...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mick said,<br />
malaysia’s safety standard = no airbag,no abs,no ebd..etc, how to reduce car accidently like tat??<br />
&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;<br />
simple, dont drive like typical Malaysian.. which is RUDE.<br />
seriously.. accident rates can be reduce drastically&#8230; </p>
<p>with srs, abs, eba, ebd, tcs, esp, vcs and etc.. doesnt mean that u wont involve in an accident, unless you change your driving attitude&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on New Proton Exora Basic from RM57,548! by joe</title>
		<link>http://paultan.org/2009/11/19/new-proton-exora-basic-from-rm57548/#comment-275450</link>
		<dc:creator>joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:44:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Proton, suppose to be national car fully protected and gets grants from the rakyat yet sell their cars overpriced..P2, a japanese company which pretends to be M&#039;sians just because the bumpers was design here..They come harping about the &#039;basic&#039; model which is so bloody &#039;affordable&#039; at RM57k (US16k) and many will take nine years to repay the bank as if M&#039;sia have one of the highest per capita income,yet we are just a third world nation. I really don&#039;t understand why the G is doing this,its hurting every M&#039;sian as we are spending too much for a mere automobile.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Proton, suppose to be national car fully protected and gets grants from the rakyat yet sell their cars overpriced..P2, a japanese company which pretends to be M&#8217;sians just because the bumpers was design here..They come harping about the &#8216;basic&#8217; model which is so bloody &#8216;affordable&#8217; at RM57k (US16k) and many will take nine years to repay the bank as if M&#8217;sia have one of the highest per capita income,yet we are just a third world nation. I really don&#8217;t understand why the G is doing this,its hurting every M&#8217;sian as we are spending too much for a mere automobile.</p>
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