There’s no automotive segment in Malaysia that is quite as competitive as the B-segment sedan market. The crossover may be the darling of the car-buying public right now, but the affordable three-box, four-door with a small engine and a big boot remains firmly in the mainstream, and pretty much every mass-market carmaker that has a proper foothold in the Malaysian market has an entry in this cutthroat sector.
For years, the Toyota Vios and its arch-rival, the Honda City, have sat at the top of the food chain, being the progenitors of the genre. At the time when the latter was an ungainly Jazz sedan, the world’s largest carmaker showed with the original Vios that you could have a handsome, reliable sedan for minimal outlay, and it established an early dominance.
Fast forward to today, and the City has turned into a formidable competitor, with thrusting, square-edged styling hiding a new drivetrain and plenty of new toys. Hamstrung not least by an engine and gearbox combination that’s more than a decade old, the Vios has been under threat not just from its nearest rival, but also from newer contenders, as buyers become more savvy and pursue increased sophistication.
As such, Toyota has sought to rejuvenate its volume seller, not just with a brand new engine, but also a high-tech transmission of its own, plus an increase in kit. Has it been enough to put the Vios back in the race? We test drive the new one to Melaka and back to find out.
Engine and gearbox aside, the Vios has seen very few changes, least of which being the way it looks. The car retains the same Keen Look, er, look that we’ve seen since it was first introduced in 2013, inspired by the 86 sports car. As such, the slim headlights and upper grille, the large downturned lower grille and swept-back tail lights joined together by bar above the rear number plate are entirely unchanged.
What has been changed is the choice of bodykits on offer. The range-topping TRD Sportivo model remains, but now sports a new, more intricate front spoiler, with silver trim on the lower lip. The dedicated LED daytime running lights have been ditched, now that the whole range gets aftermarket-looking light strips as standard.
Elsewhere, the rear skirt has also been redesigned, with the same silver trim as the front. Also new is a black front grille trim (the rear number plate garnish retains the existing smoked chrome finish), while the rear lip spoiler is now body colour instead of grey; the side decals have also been removed. New eight-spoke, two-tone 15-inch alloy wheels (the same diameter as before) complete the look.
Toyota has also introduced a new variant that slots under the TRD Sportivo, called the 1.5 GX. Like the G Limited model that was introduced on the previous-generation model, this car gets a different bodykit, with front fog lamp enclosures separate from the lower grille, plus a unique rear bumper add-on and its own set of two-tone alloys. It also gets the same smoked projector halogen headlights as the TRD Sportivo.
The inside sees even fewer changes. Practically everything here has been carried over from before, from the dashboard design with the high-mounted head unit and faux stitching to the slightly flattened steering wheel rim at the bottom. Although it’s by no means unattractive, it could use more of a spruce up, considering the more stylish appointments seen in some of the Vios’ newer competitors.
That’s not to say that there hasn’t been any revisions made at all – keyless entry has been made standard equipment since last year, as has front footwell illumination (amber on the TRD Sportivo, blue on other models) and a black interior (the mid-range G variant previously had a beige colour scheme). The Toyota Premium Security and Solar Film window tint is now also fitted to the G model and up.
The 2016 revamp throws in new leather upholstery for the TRD Sportivo (ditching the outgoing model’s red bolster trim), while black and saddle tan leather has been introduced on the GX – the latter may not be to everyone’s tastes. The former also gets new carbon fibre-effect trim (replacing the previous piano black finish), while the latter gains a hairline brushed metal look to the decorative trim panels.
The DVD-AVX infotainment system with 6.1-inch touchscreen and a reverse camera is now fitted on the E variant and above, while a DVD-AVN navigation system with a 7.0 inch screen, voice recognition and smartphone screen mirroring is an optional extra.
The latter unit, fitted to the test cars, is a little difficult to view under sunlight, and can be slow to respond at times; otherwise it works fairly intuitively.
The lack of soft touch materials as found on some rivals is excusable, but the textures of the plastics themselves are quite rough, and the feel of the leather isn’t very far off what you’d find on a Myvi. It has to be said, however, that the City doesn’t get leather anywhere, except on the limited edition X variant.
However, everything does feel very solidly screwed together, and the cabin feels like it will last a lifetime. By contrast, the City looks a lot more modern and features a more interesting mix of textures and finishes, but has a slightly toy-like tactility once you start rapping the plastics and playing around with the switchgear.
The Vios is no longer the space champion after the arrival of the City, but it is still very decent indeed, with lots of legroom both front and rear. One issue I have is with rear headroom – despite being an average 173 cm in height, my head hits the roof if I sit up straight, so I have to slouch slightly to get comfortable.
The driving position is also decent, but not the best. You sit fairly high up – although that admittedly gives you a good view of your surroundings – and the steering wheel lacks telescopic adjustment that’s quickly becoming de rigueur in the class.
The boot, meanwhile, measures 506 litres, which is more than good enough – even though it is bested in terms of outright space by a number of competitors, including the Proton Persona and even the one-segment-below Perodua Bezza. The aperture is also of a decent width and the load lip low, although the 60:40-split rear seats can’t be folded flat.
Safety-wise, the Vios comes with the same dual airbags, ABS with EBD and brake assist and ISOFIX rear child seat anchors as before. But the big news is the fitment of Vehicle Stability Control (VSC) and traction control (TRC) on all variants, finally bringing it up to speed with the rest of the segment.
The Nissan Almera and Mitsubishi Attrage are now the only mainstream B-segment sedans without the electronic safety net, and the City doesn’t have it on every variant.
Under the bonnet, you’ll find two of the biggest changes of them all. The new all-aluminium 2NR-FE 1.5 litre Dual VVT-i – first seen on the Sienta MPV in August – finally banishes the old 1NZ-FE VVT-i mill, used since the first Vios introduced in 2003, to the history books. Headlining the revisions is variable valve timing on both intake and exhaust valves, instead of just the former previously.
That’s not all – the engine is also fitted with iridium spark plugs, roller rocker arms, improved piston oil jets, resin-coated piston skirts and a taper squish combustion chamber, resulting in reduced friction and increased efficiency. Even the engine cover now serves a purpose as a silencer, reducing engine noise.
Although the new engine is certainly more advanced than what came before, the improvements haven’t had much of an effect on peak power figures. In fact, peak outputs are actually slightly lower, rated at 107 PS (-2 PS) at 6,000 rpm and 140 Nm (-1 Nm) of torque at 4,200 rpm.
However, the mill is claimed to be more fuel efficient with a wider torque spread thanks to Dual VVT-i, especially when it is mated to the new continuously variable transmission (CVT), with a seven-speed sequential manual mode operated through the gearlever. This replaces the four-speed automatic gearbox that has also been used on the Vios from the outset.
Toyota has not released any concrete fuel consumption figures, but claims an 18% improvement in fuel economy compared to the old engine and transmission combo. A five-speed manual option has been retained on the base 1.5 J variant.
Well, after all that ballyhoo regarding the new engine and transmission, what’s it like to actually drive? Limit yourself to the first few inches of accelerator travel and the CVT actually does a decent job, reacting quickly to small changes in throttle input.
Motive force is meted out in a linear fashion in relation to the engine note and how much your right foot is flexed, and the car goes about its business without much fuss.
Any considerable amount of pedal-mashing, however, results in a dramatic rise in revs, but not much actually happens – you’ll have to wait for the gradual acceleration to match the noise. It’s this typical CVT “rubber band” feel that Toyota has yet to expunge quite as convincingly as some of the best out there.
Added to this, the new engine, for all its smoothness and lack of vibration, is fairly vocal when extended. Perhaps the drivetrain’s hesitance has been engineered in for the purposes of fuel economy or ultimate smoothness; whatever it is, it makes itself felt, particularly on inclines or when you’re in a hurry, such as when overtaking or coming out of a busy junction.
Once you get up to speed, however, you’ll find that the Dual VVT-i mill does provide a decent amount of mid-range pull. You’ll also notice that the Vios is quite a refined car at a cruise. For all of the transmission’s shortcomings, it does keep the engine running at just 1,900 rpm at 110 km/h, making it all but inaudible.
There’s also less road and wind noise than the competition, thanks to sound deadening measures such as the fitment of an acoustic windscreen and front side windows on G models and up.
Ride comfort is impressive as well, up to a point. At low speeds, the softly sprung Vios makes light work of our pockmarked tarmac, filtering out minor surface imperfections better than most other B-segment models. Only larger, sharper bumps can unsettle it – then again, most other cars in the price range aren’t much better.
Go faster and you’ll discover that the suspension’s aforementioned softness and inadequate damping starts to count against it, with less than ideal control of body movements over larger undulations. The car also has a tendency to be susceptible to crosswinds.
Pitch it into a corner and the Vios exhibits a considerable amount of body roll, although that’s par for the course in this segment. There’s decent amounts of grip, but the car can wash into understeer if you push it too hard. This reluctance to turn in keenly is amplified by the slow, if pleasantly weighty steering. Not quite so pleasant is the doughy consistency and the overly-thick wheel that makes it difficult to get a good hold.
One thing to note is the brakes, which give you a supreme amount of confidence, with well-judged pedal resistance and progressive feel enabling you to mete out stopping force with ease. This is in contrast to the City, whose softer and more inconsistent middle pedal often leaves you second-guessing yourself – never mind that in terms of outright power, the latter’s rear drum brakes are a match for the Toyota’s all-round discs.
All in all, the new Toyota Vios sends mixed messages, as it always has. The focus on bodykits and other look-faster bits on UMW Toyota’s part (plus that drifting video) makes you believe that the car is one of the more dynamic offerings in its class.
But at its heart, this car is very much comfort-oriented, both in its ride and handling balance and the nature of its performance – the latter even more so with the addition of the stepless drivetrain.
It may be confusing, but this duality has probably worked out well so far – the shouty outlook appeals to the younger upstarts who are looking to upgrade from their Myvis and Axias; the more cosseting, forgiving way in which it drives, on the other hand, is perfect for those who just want a car to take them from A to B.
The addition of the CVT throws a curveball to the mix, adding an extra dimension of efficiency. However, it remains to be seen if the unusual nature in which it presents the engine’s power will resonate with the Vios faithful – many of which have resisted the change to CVTs or automatic gearboxes with higher gear counts, in favour of a basic, predictable and dependable four-speed automatic.
Those who are attracted by the fancy new drivetrain will find that there’s still plenty that the Vios does well, in some cases better than its newer, fresher rivals. It may have a new heart and a new beat, but dig deeper and you’ll realise that the Vios is still much the same as it ever was – solid, comfortable and reliable.
The 2016 Toyota Vios is now on sale, priced at RM76,500 for the 1.5 J manual, RM79,800 for the 1.5 J auto, RM83,900 for the 1.5 E auto, RM89,800 for the 1.5 G auto, RM92,800 for the 1.5 GX auto and RM96,400 for the TRD Sportivo auto. All prices are on the road inclusive of insurance and a five-year, unlimited-mileage warranty; there’s also a five-year free service package on offer until December 31.
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Ntah ape lh…
Isu popular byk dgn suspension, disk brek dan bushes… semua koyak dlm 2 tahun jer … UMW ckp semua ni bukan pasal kualiti tp ‘wear n tear”
I really don’t understand the Malay language anymore …
well , it cannot drift anymore lol
Mai, new slogan for tipu msian <buy Toyo Hon, CHEAP & CHEAT); UMW & DRB-HICOM. CITY: CHEAP materials, S/S+ noVSC. VIOS-CIVIC-ACCORD: CHEAT 10K~20K from CKD-EEV.
No standard Vios without substantial upgrades can drift. Try to corner a standard Vios too vigorously and the only thing you will get is stained pants.
It is a good car, but all T sales man especially uncle Sam Loo has kill the brand badly by saying bad about others
Proton cars praise a lot, but sales still bad. Proton fanboys support by talkok but no action.
Toyota cars bash a lot, but sales is good. Toyota doesn’t need die hard supporters, its quality will keep the customer for generations.
Junk Myvi, byk = banyak, dlm = dalam, jer= sahaja, ckp = cakap, tp = tetapi. But really, proper grammar is eroding in both Malay and English.
Shame on u! Where do u live lol?
sad to hear this from a malaysian…
@Translation for Junk Myvi;
The ‘popular’ issues are suspension, disc brakes and bushes… all damaged within 2 years only…UMW said all these is not about quality, but due to ‘wear and tear’.
Agree with U Junk Myvi, never every learn correct BM/English in social medias. U will never improve proper writing skills.
Junk myvi , u make my day , hahaha talk like a shit , only Malaysian people proud talk in english , go to Japan Or German , Italy no body will speak english with you
Slightly better than previous model but still far behind compare to the other competitors in its class.Overall body about the same only change accessories and make it look busy and messy to justify overpriced B segment at nearly 100k.Well,there will be many dumb young executives clueless and ignorance to differentiate smart purchasing,zero auto knowledge and foreign brands ego.Pity to those never realise 45k tax for this junk and that tax is further charge on bank’s interest rate for…well,they usually go for 9years or 10 years for government servants.
Now both Sam and Kunta P2 sales men are worried.
Old 1.5 and 4 speed auto was 13 years old?
Can kahwin already.
I bet in 13 years time…
They’re stuck with this new 1.5 and. Cvt
While everyone has gone plug in hybrid electic
Hahahaha
In a serious note…
Any improvements on the steering feel?
Still numb like maneuvering a sampan?
Work hard or drive Proton Persona.
work hard to drive this junk, or work santai already can get safety car
The biggest question now is this…..how to buy from a company that even before the sale already has cheated the buyer of RM20k (EEV discount)?
You are buying from such a dishonest and insincere company. If a company can sapu the EEV discount the Government has given them to give to YOU, you can see what a dishonest company you are dealing with.
How to buy a car from a company that is so unethical and dishonest??
UMW will use the hidden EEV rebate to cover for discounts and promotions at year end. UMW is a hopelessly greedy company. Even this hardware and safety upgrades come out more because of desperation rather than genuine care for the customers. If the Vios is still selling well, only in our dreams UMW will bring any update to the Vios.
The EEV rebate will later be used to cover for promotional rebates and accessories. After all these years, you still don’t know how UMW think and operate? Fat profit margins always come first for UMW. The talk about ‘better value being passed to customers’ is just a gimmick for the gullible.
Early adopters are UMW’s favorite prey because they will buy Toyotas when just launched and don’t care much about discount as long as can brag about being the first to drive a ‘NEW’ Toyota. A month or two later when UMW starts giving discounts (from the hidden EEV rebate), early adopters sure feel like idiots.
If you really want to get this Vios, wait a month or two. By that time I guarantee that UMW will be giving promotions for it. Case in point: the Hilux and Sienta.
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Looks too cheapo
KNS, best in class u dare to say out, that rubbish is lousy in the class.
In conclusion while there are some improvements it still drives like a boat, poor pickup, CVT rubber band feel worse than other brands and while VSC as standard for all variants is a big plus what im worried about is why no crash test ratings for this Vios??
Toyota’s and Nissan’s CVT boxes are the least rubbery in the business right now.
Bet you only comment without reading the entire article right?? Please read the article properly regarding the CVT experience.
No doubt Xtronic CVT from Nissan is good and on the Altis too but not for this Vios.
Oh yeah, where is that guy that claimed Toyota’s CVT is the best? Ben, where are your father Sam hiding his face now?
Totally agree. A certain policeman claims that the Toyota CVT is buttery smooth and refined gets hit in the face with this review. Highlight is prominent rubber band effect which is worse than other competitors and poor pickup response!!
reliable>?? your mother already drive this car for years ah??
As long as takata airbags dun explode you are safe enough
Oh SOHAI… buy Honda Toyota with price surge 10k~20k. TOYOTA(UMW) HONDA(DRB-HICOM) kampung style CEO MD management CHEAT Msian with price surge under CKD-EEV. Compare US/EU MNC management like VW, Jetta price reduction:- 155k(CBU), 135k (CKD), 100k (CKD-EEV).
I’m pretty sure DRB-HICOM do not control Honda Malaysia. Oni manufacturing side DRB control.
Toyota vios 1.5 cvt , 110km/h @ 1900 rpm. A big THUMBS UP.
Proton persona 1.6 cvt , 110km/h @ 3000rpm. Booooooooo
@1900rpm, all new vios owners pls dun try overtake at high speed. U wun be able to clear the overtaken car unless u have 1km clear road from opposite.
uselah the +/- shift to spin the engine rpm higher by at least 1000rpm high before attempting to overtake. need to understand the traits of cvt & engine combo so that you can optimise the power band to over take faster or for max efficiency. modern cars are high tech machine even if it is catergory b. When I bought my wira in 1998 it cost 46k and really kosong even without single air bag. So e spec vios now for 76k after discount still oklah.
uselah the +/- shift to spin the engine rpm higher by at least 1000rpm high before attempting to overtake. need to understand the traits of cvt & engine combo so that you can optimise the power band to over take faster or for max efficiency. modern cars are high tech machine even if it is catergory b. When I bought my wira in 1998 it cost 46k and really kosong even without single air bag. So 2016 e spec vios now for 76k after discount still oklah. very competative to my daugther’s honda city 2016.
Liar, persona can do the same
Well I’m driving a persona Cvt and it’s true that 110km/h was at 3k rpm. The new vios g spec does excites me but look at price man…it’s 50% or 30k more than the top specs persona..
When your Persona cvt reach 10th years, you have already spent additional RM15k on its repair and the Vios will still have RM20k more RV than yours. So at the end of days you only save RM5k. Think further.
Lol Toyota salesman is so desperate to get sales, sigh. Since when p1 is like conti car expensive to maintain?
15k on repair? Don’t talk bull ok.Probably your dad use p1 before and got conned repeatedly by mechanics.Yes,u got it from your dad.Blame your dad for your dumbness..
That’s a wrong calculations bro. If u r paying 20k downpayment 7 years loan. At the end u will be paying around 105k for the vios and 70k for the persona. 10 years later the vios may sell at 35k and the persona 15k. The loss from the depreciations :
Vios : 105k – 35k = 70k loss(1 pcs persona premium)
Persona : 70k – 15k = 55k loss
Further more the toyota major service fees are not cheap bro..rm800 to 1k.
Jgn sakai sangat, preve cfe dah lama dah buat..vios tak sesuai pakai 7 speed, torque tak cukup..bila nak accelerate pakai gear 7,vios terkentut kentut..kalau preve cfe tak apa, torque tinggi 205nm, accelerate pakai gear 7 pun senyum2 lgi
Jgn sakai sangat, preve cfe dah lama dah buat..vios tak sesuai pakai 7 speed, torque tak cukup..bila nak accelerate pakai gear 7,vios terkentut kentut..kalau preve cfe tak apa, torque tinggi 205nm, accelerate pakai gear 7 pun senyum2 lgi :)
jangan sakai sangat oii, preve cfe dah la dah buat benda ni lahh.. lgipun, vios tak sesuai pakai 7 speed sbb torque kurang, agak menangis vios pakai gear 7 ni bila nak accelerate atau cuba maintainkan 100kmh even jln ada berbukit sikit jer..preve cfe lain cerita, torque tinggi 205 nm, nak accelerate pakai gear 7 pun, preve msih senyum2 lagi :) :)
Proton CFE and Vios, Many ada “gear”?
Nak power sikit overtake, buat apa guna gear 7? Tau pandu ke?
Kau lupa cfe ada paddleshift, kau tak pernah try cfe kan ? Jdi dah tau vios susah sangat nak maintain 100kmh guna gear 7 , baik toyota tak payah pakai gearbox macamni..asal ada asyik naik bukit sikit, trus drop gear, tak kesian dgn gearbox je wahai toyota?
dah tau vios susah payah nak maintain kat 100kmh kat gear 7, even jalan naik bukit terpaksa drop gear, lain kali tak payah buat la , tak ksian dgn gearbox ke asyik tukar gear? lgi satu, kau lupa preve cfe ada paddleshift kan? pakai gear 7 pun enjin santai bro, 205nm tu
Dah tau susah sangat nak maintai 100kmh pakai gear 7, asyik drop gear even jalan berbukit sikit je, baik tak payah buat, keta nj kurang torq..tak ksian dgn gearbox ke? Lagi satu, kw lupa preve cfe ada paddleshift kan? Suka hati je bro pakai gear brp :), even pakai gear 7, u still feel the G force bro, thats how the 205nm work :)
Sakai betul lah budak ni, tak pernah naik bas ekspres ke?
110km/h at 1900 rpm? 1.5 Vios? Going downhill maybe?
Leonardo
110km/h at 1900 rpm is possible, you don’t believe can go to test drive, of course is during constant speed drive not up hill. Don’t simply post these nonsense here. you expect like proton engine not pair with gear box? This world only 3 manufacturer can do engine and gear box for there own use i.e Toyota, Honda and Mercedes.
Where is the pondan organization MAI? They should give a clear definition of EEV. Now, everybody also claim EEV. Even Bezza also claim EEV. What is the guideline?
Everybody now also seems to hantam the word EEV. Anyway, let us assume this Vios is EEV, where is price reduction? Last time, Madani from MAI said car manufacturers are encouraged to sell CKD EEV cars in Malaysia to benefit EEV tax free pricing.
Now MAI stay quiet. All waiting for further datukships. MAI should prosecute UMW and Toyota for selling their Vios at the OLD prices despite getting EEV.
Infact, prices have gone up!. Now Vios is RM96k.
MAI is like a pondan organization. They are too scared to touch another Government body like UMW
I went to Honda, they are willing to give Rm110k for their Civic. The Civic is world acclaimed. Even in US and Europe, it is world famous. It is even nominated for World Car Award 2016
The Vios, not even heard in US or Europe, a palat car only for Thailand, Indonesia and Malaysia, is sold for RM96k.
I hope people realise, the name Vios and the car DOES not exist in US or Europe.
Even in Africa, the Vios is not sold.
Comparing lowest spec Civic to highest spec Vios?
Why? So that your argument seems more credible?
FYI, Vios is also sold in Singapore, Taiwan, Brunei, Philippines, and China. Similar to Honda City. City is priced at RM95.5K with Modulo package.
If you wanna compare the Civic, compare it against the Corolla then. Corolla can be had from RM115K after year end discounts. And it is world acclaimed. The best selling sedan of all time. Unlike the “palat” City.
Simply blindly blaming the Government for everything. It’s time to chill. Eat a pie.
You comparing a vios to a civic is like comparing city to corolla and saying the whole world never heard of city but corolla is world aclaimed.kunta..kunta,,.
Mr Kunta, FYI, not only the Vios is not sold in US/Europe, the City is also not sold there.
For the record, none of our P1/P2 sub-compact are sold there either.
These sub-compact cars are specifically developed for Asean market.
http://paultan.org/2014/01/20/nap-2014-energy-efficient-vehicles-eev-detailed/
Rm96k for a small B segment junk vios? Do you know now, with discounts, you can get a huge Nissan Teana, a proper D segment car for RM113k?
If you can pay RM96k, obviously you can buy RM113k.
This shows how Government owned and run company, a full GLC like UMW is ripping the rakyat left right and center.
Willing buyer, willing seller. Just like Lim Guan Eng maaa… rip off the Penang rakyat left, right and center and yet he’s still a hero. Same goes for UMW and Toyota. Suckers will worship their heroes no matter how many times they get ripped off.
Bro. No need reply to this RBA. He wallows in mud, so pls dun join him and dirty urself. U have ur dignity as a human being to take care of.
Bodo bash gomen, any party can win election lor. After that do you think they will kolos their money making companies? In our dream.
Bodo tu simpan sikit
Only monkey like donkeykong bring politics into car blog.
Pls see who the original monkey that started it, which bring in the gorilla. If others dun bring in politics, we wun too.
I juz like other Malaysian thought, previous not good, whatever added after or big changes also consider as not good
Was test drive last week, get impress by this new heart and gearbox. no longer feeling changing gear and the engine noise was reduce significantly. believe that suspension already been tune to be more comfort and indeed NVH is much more improve into current face-lifted. the best thing is, when i hit 110km/h, RPM was at 1,900! that time i was felt “are you kidding me” it was like very low and doesn’t found any noisy sound coming from engine and gearbox, but when heavily press pedal it sound louder “normal for CVT drivetrain”.
Steering response is quicker and with the VSC addons i much confident to corner on a high speed.
i was not a fancy Toyota fans, but when DUAL VVT-I & AISIN CVT gearbox were announced earlier this year at Thailand, it was quite interesting. and following the news said to launch in july but end up October.
is still worth to buy unless and believe that same drivetrain might be implement to Myvi, or those might be good for people who can afford.
Your comment is entirely sum up about how CVT works and CVT has been around for a few years. As the writer mentioned above The Vios still below par when compared to the other manufacturers.
CVT has long been here. Obviously he is new user.
Rpm 1.9k? Tolong lahhh, first time ehh? sakai punya org, prefe cfe already do that long time ago
dont be sakai, preve cfe dah lama buat
If the cvt are the same setting as the altis super cvt then should be one of the best in the market. But can u tell me which showroom allow u to test drive the car speed up above 100km/hr ??
jangan sakai sangat oii, preve cfe dah la dah buat benda ni lahh.. lgipun, vios tak sesuai pakai 7 speed sbb torque kurang, agak menangis vios pakai gear 7 ni bila nak accelerate atau cuba maintainkan 100kmh even jln ada berbukit sikit jer..preve cfe lain cerita, torque tinggi 205 nm, nak accelerate pakai gear 7 pun, preve msih senyum2 lagi :)
bila cerita psl suspension, jan pernah berangan nak lawan dgn proton yer toyota, sbb proton ada super handling, tpi dalam masa yg sama, super comfort..blum ada kreta yg dpt gabungkan dua2 ni(handling+comfort) kecuali proton..sapa2 yg kata vios ni ada handling dan comfort yg baik, memang sah korang tak pernah test proton sebelum ni, kalau korang dah test proton, baru korang realize betapa jauhnya vios dgn proton bagai langit dan bumi.
Between I was driving Saga CVT for almost 4 years. 110km/h around nearly 2.7/2.8k rpm.
Others CVT I yet try before but of we talk about NVH this version vios indeed done well. I test drove all proton CVT, yes persona I get impress but the NVH still cannot compare.
For a car which is only implement VSC which is have it for Proton for last few years.
But guys, we talk about comfort or handling. Is like you have some you lose some. But please before comment a car please go and have a test drive. If I said anything wrong, I will apologies in advance.
Base on my comment before, I’m comparing Previous Vios vs Current facelifted Vios. Why drag so far until comparing with others competitor?
Correct me if I’m wrong, between I’m Toyota supporter as well. I’m just speak out what I felt after the test drive.
Sorry, I’m not toyota supporter *
Because, toyota are aiming to compete with other competitor cars.. thats why we need to compare it with other cars..why compare with old vios model? Toyota also syok sendiri? We need to compare to other 2016 cars
But the Peogeot 408 just slashed to 87k….
How ah?
Which one ah?
Peugeot 408 has very high fuel consumption.. think really really hard if u wana go for this
Can leave vios in dust anytime. Turbo kickin yo. Not to mention very good handling and NVH
Comparing B Vios and C Peu408? Are u really that dumb? Vios nowhere in the radar.. Why don’t u compare a 3 tonne lorry and a trishaw then! Where u hide your brain?
Jdi skg baik kita compare vios dgn persona..persona 6 airbag…ok baiii
he’s comparing using price range.what’s wrong with that?in fact,he’s now pointing at the fact that at the price of b seg vios, he could get a c seg peogeot.ur issue is?
peugeot 408 high fuel consumotion is accepetable, say monthly of RM360 vs RM280, as long as it is as reliable as any Japanese car and their SC are able to correctly & quickly solve any electrical or mechanical issues which will crop up occasionally, even for a jap car, after a few years of ownership. Anothet is that spare parts should not be costing an arm or a leg.
When you want to sell , they slash 50k…how ah?
I am thoroughly sad with our beloved Malaysia. People working their asses off for money that can only buy them a 96k vios. Rich people showing off with their new civic turbo, while in other country civic is considered an affordable car. In ours though? It is the most luxurious car one can buy. I’m sorry. Bash me all you like. Say hurtful comment so as to protect yourself from the reality that Malaysian are facing. What a great country Malaysia is. :(
Just some wise words: buy according to ur means. And remember to pay PTPTN loan 1st!
Nobody is protecting what Malaysians are facing
Its cowards like you are cant stand up to the challenges of living in Malaysia
If you think life is so much easier and better elsewhere you can always migrate
Cowards like you have no guts to even sign or apply for migration
You are given choices in life, at least grow a pair of balls to make decisions that suits you
If you think car ownership is so much more affordable in other countries and you can always migrate there and enjoy cheap car ownership
Nobody’s pointing a gun at you and forcing you to stay here
Relax bro. You and I know, Malaysian is right.
This is the problem with malaysians. We whine and whine about car prices but dont see it as a luxury item. Duit tak ada but using civic as a bench mark. Doesnt make sense at all
Asal ada gaya,
Biar papa kedana,
Hidup dah merana,
Nanti demo sini sana.
Hey cheer up pal :)
A car it is not about newness
I recently bought an E36 BMW 325i for RM18k and I found a perfect workshop to maintain it, mind you it has a luxurious leather seats, a six cylinder engine, FRONT AND BACK disc brakes and the list goes on. Fuel consumption can’t be more thirsty than my outgoing very old carburetor Iswara auto. My other car is a Waja and a Kelisa. If a car is expensive, there is always another option right? My next target? Eyeing for that X-Trail 2.5 for that sweet AWD system. :)
this is sad because it’s true, I’m totally agree with you. Still, sometimes I’m grateful that I’m living in natural disaster free country. But the corruption in this country is getting out of hand.
I am very sorry to see that civic turbo is a show off car. Serious? Civic turbo? If you want to show off, get it right. Show off with Porsche, Bentley, Aston Martin or alike.
Even BMW Audi Merc are everywhere and maisntream noawadays. Getting bored to see on road.
eyyy….. dunt make me feel bad with my accord 2.4
Its only a car, a mode of transportation my friend.
Your comments are absolutely correct about the image of the Civic as being bought by rich people here in Bolehland. There are many other issues and problems faced by people overseas. In America for example has one of the lowest taxes on cars ever. Any young graduate can afford a basic Japanese, American or Continental car. Even you and me can afford a brand new Ford Mustang GT or Dodge Challenger SRT-8 over in America. LOL:) No Myvis and Vios on the roads at all. Seriously there are many Mat Saleh, African Americans and Latinos there driving Cadillacs.
Petrol there is quite decent too. However, they have many social problems like insane welfare taxes, murder cases involving Guns, and extremely old roads in some part of the country compared to our beautiful roads in Jalan Imbi, Putrajaya area. They even have more deadly hurricanes and other natural disasters compared to Malaysia. O yeah, their food is alright but cannot beat Malaysia’s food. If travel there frequently like myself, you will love Malaysia more. No offence guys:)
VSC??? Why the above picture shown all the cones fell down?
http://s2.paultan.org/image/2016/10/2016-Toyota-Vios-75-1-630×417.jpg
Or the driver problem?
Those cones were used to mark the direction of the lane change.
Read the questions again.
I’m surprised you don’t know why the cone was positioned like that.
Are your brain operating at his higher level?
It’s like somebody asking ‘what is EEV incentive?’. Ordinary people will think that this guy is katak di bawah tempurung right; do you even know what he is asking?
Time to gather all the B segment car in the market ( City, Vios, Mazda2, Persona, Attrage, Polo sedan, Almera) and make comparison between all of them in all aspect.
minus the attrage and almera please. disqualified because no Esc
Attrage will not be selling for long. After the Attrage and Lancer stock for 2016 are finished, MMM will not be selling any saloon or hatchback cars anymore.
MMM will soley focus on SUV and pick up trucks in the future.
I think it should be included *because* of the exclusion of ESC. It will goes to show how important that feature is nowadays and how far behind Mitsubishi and Nissan is.
Regardless of any bias, and since u drove both the Persona and Vios, which one makes more sence?? Cvt and all…..
If just for comparison between the 2 only. Buy Persona la. The balance U labur in ASB. After 10 years, you’ll thank me for choosing the Persona.
What about the manual variant? I always enjoyed the manual variant on the old Vios (2nd gen). Is there any difference between the old engine manual and new engine manual?
media test drive event?
sorry guys.. the kruk kruk sound on mounting is still unsolved… thanks..
Yerp..me too..has been already 2 years for vios 2009 G..only service at toyota SC and asked them to have a look and inspect..wud they told me was the absorber mounting damage and need to be replaced..after replaced it both,still kruk kruk sound came from the dashboard..and now the sampan feeling is unforgivable..then again..they told me need to change the absorber as they only can last for 2 years???!!!..change all 4 absorber..still the sampan feeling exist..i had test drove proton persona last month..seriously,the driving experience obviously better in persona…i always believe that own a toyota will never break down..as told by jeremy clarkson,minus the boring design..but i was wrong..
Crap car. Definitely won’t be buying this. Vento is so much better after testing both cars
alaaaaaa 2 airbag je? memang hina lah bila keta vios ahbeng ni duduk sebelah persona 5ncap. Mungkin vios tak terasa malulah dgn saga 37k sbb airbag 2 je kan? huhuhu kesian vios, dah la sombong harga 76k tpi airbag 2 je..Persona lebih kepada kereta yg rendah diri, diam2(harga murah) tapi berisi(6 airbag)..sedangkan vios lebih kpd ahbeng, sombong,takbur dan suka showoff(500hp trd sticker)..Paultan, mana NCAP utk vios? tak bagitau pun? jangan bias ye paultan..kalau proton, 4 star atau 5 star kau akan mention kan? knp vios tak dpt 5 star kau tak mention erk? tak nak kecewakan toyota fans ke??
The car has not been tested by ASEAN NCAP yet.
Shame on toyota
In tht case, you must mention about this to make sure all the malaysian are know the truth about this car..
Bila sebut psal handling, jan bermimpi nak bersaingg dgn proton yer toyota
Handling? Cannot compare to go kart. Handling tu satu aspect jer.
not only in handling, safety and many more..every car have pros and cons, different price..it depends on people itself to choose
Hi Jonathan, may i suggest in future, you guys should do a raining NVH simulation test. Just go for a car wash and ask the worker to blast the car with water jet spray from top to bottom. Alot of buyers who bought the 3rd gen Vios including myself did not know that the roof of this car is so hallow, almost no soundproof that during a downpour, it sounds like the car has a zink roof.
The steering itself has no feedback at all and numb as if it was injected with botox. However you are right that this car is very susceptible to crosswind couple with the ‘no-feel’ steering, the car does not feel stable at high speeds. In this area ,the City is better although the City steering also has lack of feedback.
Then try proton , maybe its suitable for you, if not, just find another car, maybe a brand new or secondhand honda, continental and so on
How does the manual variant drive? Are the gear changes smooth? Is it affected by the CVT or separate from it altogether?
Why do all these sissy underpowered cars have side skirts , spoiler etc? What’s the use of having all show and no go?? Does the almera, vios, city think it’s a mustang??
You’ll be surprise by the way they drive many of them think their car is a Porsche.
Honda City still in best class…
Arghhhhh PUIIIIIIIII to vios
Look at the centre console, manual air cond in a 90+k car???
Come on, I rather have the City, at least it comes with 6 airbags. Try harder Toyota, maybe next time.
common, UMW should sell this car more than 100K now, since they already ripping people, my as well sell more expensive.
Still there will be some people will buy a Vios more than 100K,
maybe the 2 facelift will make the car from 96K increase 2.5K each facelift, it will eventually touch 100K,
Then i just wonder how many people will purchase that 100K vios. I am just waiting,
from the review,one can conclude that the cvt is not the one related to the altis and its a different unit/model altogether , where the one in the altis behaves very much like an auto,where revs rise and drop according to engine speed,and i must say , its very refined and smooth in nature,this one seems like a very conventional cvt , from the characteristics mentioned above,where revs rise,and slowly waiting for the gearbox to catchup…and somehow , it masks the engine performance i feel , where u will never kno how good or responsive the engine is since its pushed back by the cvt….
wd love to know this engine’s true self with a manual!
i donot know , this facelift somewhow feels abit too late…that bodykit im definitly not a fan of , way too fussy,and too much going on…the days of vios selling by the bucketloads are truly over…
that City platform is way more accomplished,just by looking at the interior space,u will know that the City’s packaging is second to none….add that to the superior engine/cvt combo,and thats why its selling in big numbers and no doubt,helped Honda to the no1 spot…!
In p1 CVT got 2 modes, SAT and normal CVT. SAT will immitate the autgearbox. Altis got both?
Pickup is never been a toyota forte. Even with over 200 kg more load , exora catch up Altis 1.8 without fuss
Malu betul. Go and test if dun belip
alaaaaaa 2 airbag je? memang hina lah bila keta vios ahbeng ni duduk sebelah persona 5ncap. Mungkin vios tak terasa malulah dgn saga 37k sbb airbag 2 je kan? huhuhu kesian vios, dah la sombong harga 76k tpi airbag 2 je..Persona lebih kepada kereta yg rendah diri, diam2(harga murah) tapi berisi(6 airbag)..sedangkan vios lebih kpd ahbeng, sombong,takbur dan suka showoff(500hp trd sticker)..Paultan, mana NCAP utk vios? tak bagitau pun? jangan bias ye paultan..kalau proton, 4 star atau 5 star kau akan mention kan? knp vios tak dpt 5 star kau tak mention erk? tak nak kecewakan toyota fans ke?
alaaaaaa 2 airbag je? memang hina lah bila keta vios ahbeng ni duduk sebelah persona 5ncap. Mungkin vios tak terasa malulah dgn saga 37k sbb airbag 2 je kan? huhuhu kesian vios, dah la sombong harga 76k tpi airbag 2 je..Persona lebih kepada kereta yg rendah diri, diam2(harga murah) tapi berisi(6 airbag)..sedangkan vios lebih kpd ahbeng, sombong,takbur dan suka showoff(500hp trd sticker)..Paultan, mana NCAP utk vios? tak bagitau pun? jangan bias ye paultan..kalau proton, 4 star atau 5 star kau akan mention kan? knp vios tak dpt 5 star kau tak mention erk? tak nak kecewakan toyota fans ke??
Proton is for peasants. Kalau tak mampu diam
Work harder and drive a vios.
Work smarter and drive a P1.
When cannot afford toyota, bash p1 then other bashers happy. If bash toyota kena suruh diam pulak. Oh wai
Topkek
Bukan Paultan yang bias ni tetapi Vios ini sejak keluar tahun 2014 memang tak pernah test pun kat AseanNCAP. Yang Vios dugong lama tu baru dapat 4 star jadi rasanya Toyota ni takut test Vios baru ni kerana dah pasti tak dapat menang Saga pun in terms of safety rating!
Kw asmaan kah?
Go bash n the Bahasa Malaysia section.
Improve your English and you will improve your IQ & EQ.
So much hatred towards UMW as if they owe you a living.
Why wanna compare with Proton when they are accorded National car status and hiding behind this protection for the past 30 years.
If you think that Proton is such a good conpany then open up the local market without excise duties & see who is more competitive.
So arrogant about Proton then why need the 1.5 bil govt loan & looking for a foreign partner?
So how many Australasian NCAP (ANCAP) stars did vios get?
u sad bro? hahahaha, same like korea, america(not sure) and many more..their car are more cheaper in their country..u get it? national car got national price hahahahah, this is normal ok, chilllll!!!!!!
What is this guy blabbering about? Incomprehensible and idiotic.
waaaaaaaaa toyota owner get angry wooo hahahahahaha so scary
All cars are lousy in Malaysia. Me gonna migrate to Japan soon, with big a job with big paycheck. Gonna buy top class cars, for sure….
I wish Malaysian good luck with their below par, dangerous cars…..
To be honest the car got some looks to it like it or not. Dont think it was necessary for Toyota to remake the look as for this round of enhancements
VSC inclusion, no more dino age engine and transmission, and at a reduced price with eev incentive. Seems like Toyota is doing everything right except catering to the social media haters who lack rationality.
Went to test drive the car today. Really cruising at 110 km/h at 1800rpm is surreal for a car in this class. Complete silence from the engine except road and wind noise of course. A major improvement from my current Vios.
So, you must be dugong owner right? hahahaha truly ahbengg detected!
Nope, actually owner of a faithful first gen vios that i bought with my hard earned money without having to troll anyone online. Served me well for 11 years and counting now.
Typical toyota owner, hide the truth that the car had many problem, just mau mempertahankan maruah toyota aka jepunis
Obviusly you are newbie to CVT. Pity
Even if he is, whats the issue if CVT does ‘excite’ him?
So, you must be dugong owner right? hahahaha truly ahbengg detected!
As p1 basher said p1 is for sorhai pipu. Vios is the bestest car in the world
When para ahbengians realize that their car are far more better than bugatti and so on :) this ah beng :) hidup ahbeng!!! Welcome to ahbeng world ^_^
Speaking abohut the thick steering, that is coincidently what i love about the vios steering. It feels meaty and solid giving the driver and expensive feel. Of course the speedometer and manual aircond is still a disappointment
just because the steering, u feel like you driving expensive car haaa? hahaha so ricerrr…bro, thick steering just remind me of the old Volkswagen Van..HAHAHA funny steering XDD
Good to see more passive safety features in toyota cars nowadays. If even a base vios gets vsc then the future does look good for malaysian car buyers. Good job toyota.
Just noticed the vios now come with a 5 year free service? Seems like a good deal, owndering if its temporary or permanent
no pic of the one with no such ugly bodykit/sideskirt?
I agree with many people here who say paying RM96,400 for the TRD Sportivo auto in a B-segment car is ridiculous.
An additional 10% will get U a C-segment car that is bigger, safer, more comfortable & practical.
Sapa yg beli vios, cuma nak tunjuk bangga bodoh malah sombong sbb ada logo “toyota”, sapa2 yg sayangkan nyawa family, better beli persona, lebih murah, lebih selamat, 6 airbag..even dalam situasi cemas atau tak dijangka, kereta masih mampu dikawal dgn cemerlang, handling vios dan persona bagai langit dan bumi jauh bezanya..
96k for B segment car? Mahaiii nye. Not worth it. Add a bit more can get C segment already which is wayyyy better standard.
Pleasant driving experience. Not outstanding but seats are amazingly comfortable for a car in this class. Comfort still one of the big strengths of toyota although i do agreewith the article above where the ads are all racing racing when the strength of the vios lies in its comfort
Upon painfully reading all the comments, it seems clear that those who bash are bashing for the sake of bashing. Hard to get genuine info from ‘comments’ section nowadays
So, dont go to the paultan anymore and find the toyota salesman..later, they will hasut u that the hiace is more luxury than nissan elgrand…or just find sam loo, he will tell u tht this junk will sure have good RV!!!
I think he meant for knowledgeble comment rather than die die hard fan comment..
komon man, this is malaysia!
true..not expecting all out praises for the Vios but rationale discussion would be great.The spoilt mentality that if im not with you, im against you is itself spoiling the comment section. Just because i dont bash the Vios doesnt mean i like the car.
yup, i met this bunch of dangerous drivers along NKVE (up to #15 if not mistaken) and them speeding along the fastest lane and try to get others drivers out of their line…
Where did this engine come from? Thailand? Indonesia? … if this engine is manufactured locally at Perodua’s Sendayan engine factory (where the Bezza’s 1.3L engine is built), then there is no reason for this car to be this expensive; it should definitely undercut the Honda City on price.
He will tell u the bestest car in the world is toyota coz high RV and you cannot persoal
Consider a used Elantra instead.
Great value for money
*if
Paultan, after this try not to compare with the honda city only, yes of course u already compare with other car like attrage and so on, but not in all aspect..I am happy if you compare with all cars in same segment , regardless of big different price.. it make all people have more knowledge about the different of the cars, pros and cons of each cars, it makes the people more easier to choose which car is the most suitable for them :D
“However, the mill is claimed to be more fuel efficient with a wider torque spread thanks to Dual VVT-i, especially when it is mated to the new continuously variable transmission (CVT), with a seven-speed sequential manual mode operated through the gearlever.”
what is the reason changing new engine when the power output is the same. used the same engine just change the gearbox. kemonlah toyota
18% fuel saving compared to the 4 speed model ; likely hood of fuel saving by about 10% is from the cvt transmission and balance of fuel id saving from dual vvt engine. in US there is a CASE mandate for raising the fleet averaged mileage to 42 miles per US gallon and at same time more stringent pollution emmission limit. So car engine for the past 5 years is about mileage & emission. So if anyone canout there is able to design a simple 1.5litre NA car engine of only 100hp but giving 65 miles per gallon he will be very very very rich from royalties.
The CVT transmission is really a disappointment
Other than that is OK
The 5 speed manual version will definitely be more fun to drive than the CVT version
My god..what is wrong with u all guys..? Every post about Toyota & Proton in PT will get super exciting attention & higher comment (100 above).. Just like a war.. everybody gets to bomb & shoot each other.. so ‘scary’ woo..
This post is especially for those who BASH without knowing how is the net selling price of car is derived.
Please read the “Malaysia Automotive Info Duty Structure” to understand why Toyota/Honda/Volvo & lain-lain cost more than P1/P2.
Without Import & Exercise duties, these foreign cars will be much more cheaper. Happy reading folks & hopefully after reading it, U will comment with better knowledge & judgement.
No pun intended but just sharing.
The thing is if Nissan can sell almari @ Rm69k with lower profit margin, why toyota sell vios for 10 YEARS @ Rm79k!? That means toyota have been sucking extra 10k clean profit while shifting the blame to Gov! Thats what pipu r angry about! They were fooled and continue to buy while cursing the wrong party!
And thanks to ETCM Nissan & kimchi brands, we now know these jepunis overlords have been sucking for so long while gip bog standard specs. And with this vios, we also know that if we stop buying and make them kneel to our demands, they will start listening. Thats real MY pipu power, no needs demo sini sana.
i think you should actually sit in an almera and then a vios/city before comparing
I rather sit in an equally-priced, one segment higher kimchi. Oh wait, u din know theres no “protection” for kimchi cars too? But how can so reasonably priced?
John, U are just a tin kosong making lots of noises without any SUBSTANCE.
U are referring a basic spec Nissan manual with only 1 airbag & no stability control that cost 68,500.00
with a Vios J spec CVT costing 77,371.00
The Vios comes with dual airbags, ABS with EBD and brake assist & ISOFIX rear child seat. It also come with VSC & traction control (TRC).
If U must compare, U should compare with City. Besides that, which part of my post belittle any car company ?! U better take a pill & chill out boy.
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8 January, 2015 Paultan
Prices for the range begins at RM74,700 for the manual J variant (the auto is priced at RM78,800), RM84,300 for the E, RM89,990 for the G and RM94,800 for the TRD Sportivo. All prices are on-the-road with insurance. A three-year/100,000 km warranty (whichever comes first) is offered.
w.e.f. 26 September 2016 FROM ABOVE Paultan
The 2016 Toyota Vios is now on sale, priced at RM76,500 for the 1.5 J manual, RM79,800 for the 1.5 J auto, RM83,900 for the 1.5 E auto, RM89,800 for the 1.5 G auto, RM92,800 for the 1.5 GX auto and RM96,400 for the TRD Sportivo auto. All prices are on the road inclusive of insurance and a five-year, unlimited-mileage warranty; there’s also a five-year free service package on offer until December 31.
With GOVERNMENT EEV incentive the prices should come down massively. WHY?
because Honda City had EEV all along but sold at the current price and nobody bat an eyelid
Check mudah.my for Honda City massive rebates.( The rebates may be from the EEV incentives which they never give in the beginning ).Toyota should follow suit. Buyer feel good this way. Win-win. May end of the year Toyota offer. Hold on potential buyers.
Although the City is my current darling, the refinement comfort and smoothness of the Vios is still my envy.
Saw this car displayed at Tesco curve. Sportivo version. One word to describe ‘ uninspiring ‘. Yawn……
It may have a new heart and a new beat, but dig deeper and you’ll realise that the Vios is still much the same as it ever was – solid, comfortable and reliable.
Totally misleading. How on earth the engine and gearbox are marked as reliable in fact still in thre early stage now? Paultan is the engineer of Toyota Vios?
Only now they put new engine and transmission. Before it was the old engine and transmission carried from Vios dugong. But still 2 airbags for the top model?
Rear aircornd and front demister / defogger???
ho say vios not good and pesona better? Let race dude.
This popular four-door subcompact car was first introduced in the year 2002 for the Asia Pacific region. It was originally a replacement for the Tercel. Toyota aimed for the Vios to fill-in the B-segment class, under the Camry and Corolla. It was also to compete in the compact sedan segment against strong contenders like the Honda City, Nissan Sentra, and Mazda 2.