Prime minister Tun Dr Mahathir Mohamad says that Malaysia has aspirations to start a new national car project. Speaking at the 24th International Conference on The Future of Asia, or Nikkei Conference, in Japan earlier this morning, he said that the aim is to undertake this project in partnership with countries across the region.
He was asked about Geely’s investment in Proton, and explained that since the automaker had gone the Chinese route, it was no longer a national car.
“The national car must be owned by Malaysians. At the very beginning we had a very small investment from Japan, from Mitsubishi Motor Corporation and Mitsubishi Corporation, and eventually we were able to manage on our own, but now the company (Proton) has been sold to a Chinese company, (and) it is no longer a national car,” he said.
“Our ambition is to start another national car, perhaps with some help from our partners in SEA like Thailand, and also Japan, Korea and China, because obviously there is the capacity to produce good quality cars which are saleable across the world market, and we want to access the world market,” he added.
He said that Malaysia has the ability to undertake such projects. “We may have to depend on foreign technology and partners at the beginning, but eventually we hope to be able to do everything by ourselves. In the automotive field after we started work with Mitsubishi, today Malaysians have the capacity to do almost 100% of the development of a motor vehicle. That is the benefit we have obtained by having foreign partners,” he stated.
Mahathir has previously voiced his objection towards the sale of a stake in Proton to Geely, but said last month following Pakatan Harapan’s victory in the general election that the new federal government had no plans to buy back the national carmaker.
Now, does Malaysia really need a new national carmaker, or Proton 2.0? Read our take here.
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Dang mate! Screw this national car dung plan. Vehicle import tax 0%. That is what Malaysian wants.
Oh no please no!
I cannot afford another 200% various car tax just to support the new “national car”….
Local managed Perodua is our true national car.
Forgot to add; “true national car ASSEMBLER”
Forgot to add; “true national car EXPORTER”
to Indonesia, Singapore, Fiji, Nepal, Mauritius and Sri Lanka
Proton’s biggest problem of failure was all its vendors and suppliers were cronies of UMNO
They overcharged Proton by 10X and gave Proton super low quality parts.
This is why Proton got a bad name. Actually Proton is a good car. Just that these greedy vendors and suppliers busuk Proton’s name kaw kaw
Once you get rid of all the UMNO kronies who make up all the vendors and suppliers, then you will see Proton shine like a bright star!!!
Tun, first we must clear the 1 trillion debt left to us by the previous corrupted Government.
Then, clean up all the Ministries and Government officers who gave family members fake 3rd party contracts amounting to BILLIONS each
Then, you will see, Malaysia will have so much of cash.
We will be so cash rich, we might even be richer than Singapore.
Then only, you may decide to set up another car company.
Enough lar. This is 2018, not 1982, still make car for what? You can’t fight China or India car manufacturers. Even the Proton salesman little Johnny is picking up Chinese now. Better make phone, make drone, make whatever is new and profitable in 2018!
Sell all the Birkin handbags…each costing RM200k to RM1.6 million. Got 284 handbags.
All the money, can settle all of Proton’s loans. Make Proton healthy again.
Win Win.
Better to reduce car prices. That is more important.
Malaysia has the most expensive car prices in the world.
In the late 80s, precisely in 1990, one could buy a brand new Toyota Corolla for RM20k. now, the same Toyota Corolla in Malaysia (called Altis) cost RM139k. A whopping 700% price increase.
But in Japan, the same Toyota Corolla from 1989 to 2018 has only gone up 50% in price
Again to re-emphasise, in Malaysia, the above car from 1990 to 2018 has gone up from RM20k to RM139k (700%)
So you figure out. In Japan, the car has gone up 50% in 28 years but in Malaysia, the same car has gone up 700%
Proton vendors and supplier are cronies of umno or cronies of Tun?
corectomundo. the original kleptocrat, the architect and the real dictator.
Better not set up a new car company. Cause we need all the money we can save.
We need all the money to settle the mess and debt left to us by the previous highly filthy corrupted regime.
Wow 1990 New Toyota Corolla at RM20k, then why people still buy Proton Saga that selling at RM30k?
another fake news. I bought my Saga for RM17k.
malaysians r rich. just look at how enthusiastically they donated to tabong harapan..
Not only the rich can donate. Even poor ones like me also donated to the country.
That’s what the japanese did to support honda, toyota and other japanese car firms
Even if it still will be done by TM, better work with suzuki and rebadge all their cars, compact small car, suv n mpv. Make sure affordable too.
P1 + P2 = P3.
Just change the attitude of the workers in Proton. They are the same workers in GLCs and in Putrajaya.
they are lazy to the core and they refuse to work hard. Once you change these workers, you will see Proton will sales and profits will jump 10 fold
Change the workers to Bangladesh or Nepal
and some of those ‘lazy’ engineers are now in oversea contributing to foreign countries. i suggest the mighty you who know how to walk the talk to join proton and contribute.
Rebadge swift sport wud be great. 1.4 turbo engine.
TQ tun for this visionary idea! nothing impossible for this bolehland. I don’t understand why people want AP and tax to go away. Even if our car prices are double compared to the rest of the world, people can still afford it. Look at the vehicle sales! After all, this is all for the good of the nation.
Up next, new Perwaja!
brilliant idea laaaa!
you hit the nail right on the head!
All u pipu r nuts. If Bapak has had enuff and retired, u pipu wudnt be here to crow about New MY. So cukur sikit and sapot Bapak fully. Sapot Bapak, sapot Harpan, sapot P1 2.0! Make MY national car program great again! Anyone disagrees, ur just a BN sapoter!
sudah lah john, dah kalah teruk teruk, masih nak datang sini buat kacau. Pls go away
Konpem BN troll ni…
hello john, tak bosan jadi kuli BN? Put your energy to good use brader.
Aiya cannot critic ma??? Soli2 kowtow2
His vision is for this country to become an engineering hub from design to model to manufacturing thousands of parts. A big multiplication impact on industry. Hyundai Kia once almost bankrupt in the 90’s but look at where they are now…they are the biggest exporters in the world. They sold more cars than the japanese brand and their plant in ulsan is the biggest in the world. That is all within a short period of time. If no cronies and no political interferance msian car would have be able to be on the same level as other established brand. Let give it another shot with our New Malaysia spirit!
Look at Holden, Ford & Mitsubishi in Australia..High income nation with similar population size….Gone.
i’m sure there won’t be any croyism under the rule of the new Tun M.
Tun,thank u for saving the country,we echo Robert Kuok’s statement.Now,I think LGE n Tun will be busy doing fire fighting, damage control.Ajibkor’s legacy….will take an enormous amt of time to clear the mess.We would love to see 42 yrs jail term on whoever is the main culprit.Tun, kindly concentrate on being our captain Malaysia n prosecute the financial thugs….leave the auto industry alone.Our auto market is too small for another manufacturer.Thank you,Tun.
import tax already 0% for many car import
kenot one, we need to protest our national car company. i suggest the gomen doubles the import duties.
please help create a petition so that we can avoid making mistake to create another national car that will eat up further countries resources .
1- Foreign investor /government have to absorb a lot of losses to setup again
2- Crony companies will be setup as intermediate to suppliers to easily make profit and don’t emphasize on product quality .
3- The local will have to buy local car at a higher price in order to subsidize price for export quality to manage loses in revenue .
4- Its too big an industry to formulate proper check and balances at every level.
5- The cronies are used to easy money and their appetitte for profit is much higher now, making room for a lot of corruption to take place .
5-Companies that are unable to pay supplier in time will cause ,suppliers to produce lower quality products to manage the loses incurred
6- Crony datuks will have some function at home forcing suppliers to fork out expenses for the function and eventually suppliers will include this
cost into the invoicee.
We just have to admit we failed in developing the industry . We can look at other initiatives to boost countries economy.A lot of bigger countries dont want to spend time on R&D for their national car as its not really worth the prolonged investiment. Infact manufacturers are selling to china because they cant sustain . Why are we being a fool to start one now ,when we are drowning in debts ? We will never be able to create cars at cheaper cost , because he labour cost have grown without the acquired expertise.
Oh no…not again…prices of cars with go up again just to protect this NEW national car…enough is enough
Yep. Chinese done excellent job wit P1.
OMG pls don’t, this hole can be be another 1mdb.
$50B 1mdb + 55B Ecrl + 10B Sser. Enuff
Please not another national car… Useless…thing rattle here n there. Iafm broken and the servis center said its an a proton what you expect? They proton factory no comited to improve. So ppl would no buy proton.In the end the people were asking tongkat every time from gov for more money to bail out them..
We have already a company much like to that discription, a competitive car with foreign engineering investment. Its called Perodua, and last time i checked we’re livid with our Malaysian Proton. Please no more, a Malaysian car company must be privatized and have zero governmeny interest nor intervention from the get go, thats a Malaysian car, not a Malaysian government car like Proton was.
A Big NO!! Sorry Tun, although we Malaysian supports you in every other way but not this one, AGAIN!
Sapot means sapot everything, no half half sapot.
That’s why you lot can justify the wrongdoing of the previous government.
Deswaii pipu sapot 1mdb all the way. Ooowai
yes john, you sapot 1MDB so much until country got RM1 trillion debt!!!!
“The official Federal Government debt is RM686.8bil (50.8% of GDP).” – LGE
Hutang negara melampau ni, kerajaan korup dulu sampai sekarang ada skandal.
itu la sebab tun m nak bikin kereta nasional utk selesaikan hutang tau? lembap..
betol! apa dia olang mao?! if sapot, sapot habis habis mah! sapot semua tun m mia projek.
Gua sapot, sapot habis habis. Proton Boyue
Ignore this john troll. As usual, he is trying to cause trouble here. Already kalah teruk teruk still he wants to come here and buat kacau
Sapot Bapak or ur BN troll
Semua boleh sapot tapi jangan sapot Birkin handbag ye
Yes. We sapot 22 years of bleeding up to RM 500Billion in sapoting Tun’s misadventure with national cars, national cronies, national projects, and national everything else except boosting national reserves and income.
Woi kuli batak BN! Stop misuse and destroying Paul Tan with your poisonous comments.
This is an automotive website and we came here to read news, express and engage in automotive discissions.. This is not a political forums. Trade your warez elsewhere.
Mr. Paul Tan.. It is wise if you better regulate the BN cybertroopers antics before they destroy your millions & reputations. Bleed the freak b4 they bleed you out PT.
im all in with tun m this time.
it’s time to make malaysia great again.
we need to make money from selling national cars to pay off our national debts.
Aiyo… no more national car project. Once bitten twice shy….
dude, it’s gonna b different this time.
Tun never learn from his mistakes is it? If Proton has to sold to a China, what makes him so sure that Malaysia can make it again with the second chance? On the first place, he should think on how to revive proton rather than starting on a new sheet.
If he really start another national car and a failure again, his party will definitely be voted out and will never make a return.
As Ku Li said, same person, different shirt only.
Let’s stop him there, enough is enough, I think the rakyat already succumb too much from his past ego on Proton and how crony linked company becoming too rich being Proton’s vendor.
Well said. Let’s all buy Proton SUV in droves and prove Tun got it wrong! Win-win MY.
sapot Tun M!
PH is here to stay forever with Bapak help. Petty threats dun work anymore. Do u wanna see the inside of Hotel ISA?
Hotel ISA ada jual Birkin handbag? Nak beli 284 Birkin handbag bang
how dare you question tun m’s ability?!
proton was a huge success!
Tun M is only human, and he is looking at it at an emotional perspective and NOT objectively. What’s so great about the automotive industry anyway? Why would it be beneficial to the country when conventional cars are on the way out? It would be better to focus on industries where we have the competitive advantage.
My view is that Tun M should stay away from pursuing two controversial issues, namely: (1) The ‘national’ car project, and (2) Expansion of Malaysia Airlines.
Yes. Inikalikalah PRU15.
Lain kalilah.. saudara Anwar is back. hehe
“Dua tahun itu (sebenarnya) bukan tempoh masa. Ia adalah satu cadangan sahaja. Tetapi kita (PH) tidak tetap.” – by Bapak PH
MOTON – Could this be our next new national Car ??
M for Mahatir ! :))
Hehehe… I like.
Moton Maga.. hehehe
Please make the price same as motorcycle and ban motorcycle in city area, it’s very hard to change lane during traffic jam and they speed between car like the lane is belong to them…
As a car driver and motorcyclist, i can assure u that u dont have to worry changing lane provided you give signal at least 10 seconds before you change lane.
Motorcyclist do aware of your signal and will avoid your car as long as you gave enough time to them. You dont have to worry about them
however… mostly to them.. this is their road and im speeding go away situation.. i see a a lot of car drive already half way to change lane.. then came motorcycle from nowhere speeding and force the car to go back to the original line and guest what the motorcycle keep on pressing horn and shouting to the driver.. poor guy. what do you expect.. its trafic jam. he already give signal and already halfway there. do all car driver stupid enough to change lane without checking the side mirror before change lane ? of course not. but not all motorcycle like that but most of them.
Ban motorcycle in Malaysia
Sorry Tun….we don’t want another NATIONAL CAR… guess we need to start an online petition…
Does anyone started the petition? I need to sign it so badly
Ur petition will end up like MRT3
many car brands around the world are no longer owned by people from their country of origin, eg. Nissan, but they are still seen as as japanese car. Proton is still a malaysian car, likewise Perodua despite part ownership from foreign partners. i think our automotive industry is just fine, with a lot more investment locally today from foreign brands, CKD, sales and service..etc. as well as local vendors who today supply to all car makers and not just the local makes. So please Tun, there are a lot more things in the country that need fixing.
Sorry Tun M. But this time I don’t agree with your plan. Proton had proved our capabilities in term of engineering, manufacturing and marketing.
It is not about local talent. It is about a huge capital investment for high technology automotive industry. Even Tesla still struggles to produce their car at maximum capacity. The giant car company also need to get a partnership for their survival.
Tun M should look what he can do for Proton-Geely alliance. He had a position to do that. Let say, technology transfer, Job recruitment and upgrading skill for a local worker and marketing proton car.
what tesla and elon musk can’t do, tun m can and will do! give him some time!
No don’t do another national car ,if you want create your car brand pls use your money don’t use our tax
We love you Tun, but please, not another protong!
If u luv him, u will let him do whatever he wants.
Use your own money
This old man ego is sky high i tell you
How dare you utter the truth about our beloved Tun M?!
Heresy, I tell u! Heresy! How dare u talk bad about Bapak! U must be foot soldier of the old regime!
Sorry Tun, the last thing we need is our revenues (be it from, SST, GST, or whatever taxes) being used for capital for another national car. And certainly, we don’t want another bailout.
We don’t need national cars that cause high tariffs on imported vehicles, we need efficient public transport!
Tun, this plan and project of your will cost more than ECRL & HSR. Malaysian will regret voting you if you go ahead with the project of yours.
You don’t need this project of national car to create jobs. Because of your plan once, we got Proton and repeated mistakes has caused a lot of Malaysian tax payers money.
Why can’t you let Malaysian used foreign cars at a reasonable price?
Don’t be so unfair to us Tun M.
We admire you and at the same time, we can’t forget the troubles which caused the Malaysian from your decision.
Please hear us out. Our opinion should be heard please.
Dissenting opinions don’t matter in New Malaysia. Your opinions don’t matter.
haha, good one and true.
Aiyo, not another national car. Cukup la Tun.
Hail Bapak! Saviour of MY! Saviour of national car program!
https://paultan.org/2017/08/25/tun-m-wants-to-start-another-proton-if-pakatan-wins/
Don’t forget also Bapak must settle the 1 trillion mess you and your boss left to us.
And once all the clean up clears Malaysia, only then we will be cash rich
“The official Federal Government debt is RM686.8bil (50.8% of GDP).” – LGE
Now stop reminding me of my poor grasp with numbers!
Meanwhile UMW is transforming perodua to be fully Malaysian own national automaker soon. Bid farewell to Toyota Daihatsu…
please no!!! oh god please no!!! we don’t want this syok sendiri project. burden to all and especially the buyer…but if rebatch proven japanese model I support (hehehe)
can upgrade to suzuki swift sport…hehehe
Sorry Tun. A big NO-NO. We have seen enough of proton and where they are heading to. How about start/build a “National House” instead for the needy rakyat especially in a rural areas.
“Our ambition is to start another national car, perhaps with some help from our partners in SEA like Thailand”
Din we wanted to start an ASEAN car program with Indon? Oh wait, that was oso when Bapak was still Chairman Advisor….
Don’t waste Rakyat $$ la…..
oh no please… this in my opinion, the Rakyat cannot agree to another Proton.. Perodua is also a national car, no?
Can we settle our own national debt/corruption/mentality first before venturing into another multi-billion project.
Hahaha.. 1MDB is BN political cemetery, so now Tun wanna create another for PH?? A big NONONO
this is the last thing we need dear PM
Buy any German brand
Buy French touch
Buy Japanese made
Buy buy buy…
Use our local talents to make them becoming our National cars again
Ps. Wait until we can get back our unaccountable overseas fund first
better make biskut national, I will buy it for sure.
julie’s
for the love of god there are other more important things to worry about! Malaysia doesn’t have a large enough market to sustain another “national car maker”! And the people are fed up of paying high prices for cars! Haven’t we sacrificed enough!?
Dear Tun,
With all due respect, Proton is still a national car, by share ownership, and in operation too.
Geely, is not your typical Chinese car. They are the only big ones that is privately owned, by Chairman Li Shufu. He is a very visionary man, probably as visionary as you.
When they bought Volvo Cars in 2010, Volvo was at its lowest. Years of mismanagement under Ford ownership has made it weak and had a bleak future prospect. But Li Shufu believed in Volvo.
The Swedes were afraid at first. The CEO even had to ask Li Shufu to verbally promise he will protect their jobs in Sweden. Instead, Li Shufu hired a lot more engineers for Volvo in Sweden. Hakan Samuelsson, Volvo Cars CEO has on record said “It’s a very good match because there is respect from both sides. Li is a passionate owner, not that interested in quarterly figures, but the long term strategy in our cars.”
It wasn’t until 2014 they launched an all-new model, the XC90 mk2. Volvo has made record breaking sales and profit for 3 years in a row, coming into 4th this year. All while still maintaining a very Swedish identity, even proudly displaying their flag in their cars.
Just as it takes time for Volvo to transform, so do Proton. The night is darkest just before dawn. And I promise you Tun, Proton will see the dawn. It will ride out of this challenging time. Because Geely believes and invests in Proton. Because Geely sees a future for Proton like they saw in Volvo Cars, not just for a quarter at a time, but many years ahead into the future.
It may seem trivial, but maintaining Swedish identity is no small accident. If ever, it was the defining factor that warms up the Swedish people to work with Geely. This freedom given to them, is one of the key ingredients of Volvo Cars’ success today.
Proton too, will be able to maintain their Malaysian identity. Geely Design’s CEO, Peter Horbury has said that Proton will have it, and he will make sure of it. Playing to everyone’s own strengths is what makes Geely and Volvo successful. And I’m confident, Proton will be too.
FIGHT! FIGHT! AND FIGHT! Proton must and are fighting for its promised future. Fight on, for there is no victory without a fight, there can be miracle when you believe, and the impossible, will be possible! ALL HAIL PROTON! ALL HAIL GEELY!
Thank you, Tun.
Tokmoh
11th June 2018
FIGHT! FIGHT! AND FIGHT!
Proton in reformation. Lawan tatap Lawan!
Agreed Tokmoh. Volvo is flourishing. The way it is going forward does not satisfy my petrol head tendencies, however the sales statistics speak for themselves. Proton will benefit from whatever Geely can do for them. We do not need another national car project.
Agree with Tokmoh. I rather get Proton Geely than a NEW – PRO-TIGA! Perusahaan Otomobil National Ketiga
That why he dumped SPAD, MRT3, HSR, ECRL so no continuinity for sustainable public transport. He prefers selling more car and increase traffic jammed
buat la kalo berani… kita kasi ubah lagi PRU15
betoi pok… kami taknak ubah balik yg lama
Proton is only 49% owned by Geely. It is still majority 51% Malaysian owned. It is good that Geely is sharing new models with Proton.
If Geely can revive Volvo, I believe it can also revive Proton.
We do not wish to have another Kementrian Pemasangan Kereta National. We cannot afford the 200% extra protectionist tax and high car prices
The consensus on this thread is a definite NO.
I join in thinking this is a very bad idea.
I wish I knew his thought process in thinking this is a good idea, particularly with the history of Proton.
Last time Proton.
This time call it POTONG.
Please POTONG the idea of having second national car.
We have spent far tooooo much money on this project, subsidy here and there, siphon the money now and then , ended up we are paying more and more tax buying non-national cars.
Tun Dr Mahathir, Proton was one of your mistakes and led to the Thai automotive industry growing at explosive rates – you are already the father of the Thai automobile industry. Don’t be greedy lah! Just focus on solving our other problems, Perodua is now our national car manufacturer and they are doing very well, thank you!
Kesian Proton. Once all the current staffs are pinched by Tun to new company, Proton will die naturally.
No problem, Bapak has vast experience in this. Just setup P1 Baru, then transfer all old staffs to this new kompeni, then dissolve old P1, then rename P1 Baru as P1. Tah dah!!
sounds like 1MDB. With many companies tranfering assets to each other.
Then like this, better call your old boss. He is master in company formation and tranfer of assets.
But u chose older boss for next 5 years, so too bad for u lor. Meanwhile our national car program 2.0 will flourish with ur taxpayer money. Tenkiu for donating to Tabung Kereta Nasional 2.0. Resit will be provided.
Haiya still on 1MDB maa… move on la… why everything has to be 1MDB? National car not 1MDB la… aiyooo.. lain topik lain kluar
Tun, Please don’t, do focus on how to improve current market and make sure more reliable and safe car with best cost price which benefit the people will do.
As if the tax on import car is not high enough… There it go my Ferrari dream.. Pakatan no harapan.
Tun…. The 1 trillion debt will take long time to settle. Now u wanna add another shit for us…… Sama la macam abg jibon.
Please Tun, no more for government to undertake this kind of project. Let the private take and do the car thingy. Is enough about national car. Sorry Tun, i have to say no on this idea.
Yes! This is what Malaysian should sought to be!
Enough is enough. No more wasting public money on another national car. Enough say here by us Rakyat.
Another National car? Oh no no, Haven’t we suffered enough by supporting a non competitive industry at the expense of tax payers? Government should have no part in business.
Lets use Rakyat power to convince Tun that this is a bad idea. Any volunteer
Anyone dares for Hotel Kamunting?
I OBJECT TO THIS.
We need good public transportation. Its ok if we cannot do it now because of our financial situation. But we should not start on a new national car even after the finance improves.
Come my bolehland friends, I clap for you. Now u see what you’ve got yourself into? still want to treat him as if a saint ?
He might not be a Saint but we have definitely removed a devil.
With all due respect, our very capable Minister of Economic will rise to occasion again.
he is a saint, hehe.
apa lagi lu mao, mmg ini macham mah, sapot st. madey.
We just want CHEAPER CAR as spelled in your manifesto…
Focus also on the middle income class, as we need some comfortable and safe mid size car/mpv due to number of family members to sit or daily commuting.
Please
Sedan- Camry/Accord/Teana/Sonata for under RM100K
MPV-Innova/Serena/Biante/Wish/Stream for under RM100K
The new govt shd just focus on the existing manifesto. If this new national car plan is not in the manifesto, then why come up with it now.
he can do what ever he want.
Well cant say that i am surprised …
Tun loves cars and liked everything about engineering while he was the chairman at proton but this news seems like he hates Proton now
Why? You are against public transportation and yet willing to spend billions on your pet project.
nope…..say no more. we need cheap tax for import car. =D
no more accordana and wiralution plz for using the money to buy old crap technology from the japanese , now proton geely is going on the right way ! join them , not fight with them . Najib did a good job only on this selling the proton to them !
Bad move.
What is the real purpose?
Could not do well even with a small Proton, what makes you think that this time will be different?
I know, it is either (i) totally tax-free for the first 10 years (2 generations of cars) with Sege-2 at RM18K, or (ii) imposing 500% tax on other cars, including Geely-Proton; with the management from Toyota.
Mr Lim, be careful, don’t be Badawi-2.
Azmeen, don’t be the fire-stone.
Oh no not again!!
The rakyat must object to this.
Why are we going down this route of pain and suffering to the rakyat?
Tun please dont do this.
seriously Tun M.keep this idea for yourself until rest of your life.this will be the next factor for BN to take back their position if you make this happen.please reconsider Tun M.
‘Malaysia aspire’ is not accurate.
Its Tun’s aspire to be exact.
We don’t need another car brand and we are not going to buy anyway unless price it 10k-20k.
Sometimes i dream to have Mini Cooper for 20k like what UK people enjoying and Volvo XC90 for 50k. Equivalent to 1 Honda City for both here in MY.
UTun = Malaysia
Malaysia = UTun
Manifesto Dicapati +100
I fully sapot the idea of starting another national car company. tun m is visionary and i’m sure he’s gonna make malaysia great again.
to make sure the new national company car thrives, the govt must impose higher import duties on foreign car brands. i suggest we start by doubling the current duties on the imported brands.
Hidop Tun!
Hidop National Car!
Hidup Uturn! Hidup P1 2.0! Make MY national car program great again!
#SayaRinduZamanTunP1KetaBerlambak
Please start a petition now!!! We don’t want another round of never ending tax payer’s bail out money to save this “national car” government’s company!!!
With all due respect, Tun… if you must back somebody, back Perodua. THAT is the pride of our national car brand. But if you MUST spend, please invest in improving our public transportation system. This topic’s the least of our worries and wants leh dai lou.
sorry man.. i cant agree to this as well. perodua doesnt build its own cars.. they are a japanese proxy as far as i’m concerned, and they are doing extremely well and selling lots of affordable cars to malaysians and making tons of money.. they do not need any more help from the Govt. Besides that, they have also been enjoying the same low national car taxes that Proton as been enjoying all this time. Or rather, the japanese *cough have been enjoying it.. just my 2 cents.
P2 is not national car make but just a national car assembler. P1 oso now follow this culture, deswai we must UBAH and make new P1 again. Time for P1 2.0!
Nope, a big nope
Malaysia Baru, pilihan ramai.
Projek kereta nasional : YA!
Projek pengangkutan awam: TAK BOLEH!
Hapus MRT3!
Hapus ECRL!
Hapus HSR!
Hidup P1 2.0!
Tun..if you use your own money then there will be no problem and should not use a single cent from our tax money. And we will support this. Become a malaysian elon musk..looking forward for your car brand tun m.
oh no please… i am not proud of having another new malaysia brand car!
I suggest Paultan start an online poll to allow Rakyat to vote for or against another National Car Project. Can you do that Paultan?
Rakyat alredi voted for it in GE14. The results r clear as daylight.
#Apalagimau?
country needs money, tax will go up on cars..reformasii lol
Stop using the word ‘malaysia’ or ‘malaysians’ in every of your ridiculous ideas. We still have nightmares from your billions of ringgit bailouts for proton. Don’t you dare to say we malaysians want this, you want to do this, not us. You want to benefit your cronies, not us. Malaysia does not need another rebadged car, built with subpar qualities and sold as a patriotic duty. Just stop it.
MY has voted for it, so they cant say NO now. Just like Brexit.
just like how you could not say NO to corruption by the previous regime.
Which previous regime? You mean the one you people voted back in?
Billioaire Malaysia buat lah kilang kereta indipendent spt Kia,Hyundai. Lihat model2 terkini mereka juga terbaik.
Not economically viable. We have failed once, spectacularly some more.
The world has changed since the 80s. Today boutique car manufacturers struggle to survive, many have been bought over, absorbed into big corporations. Sharing resources to reduce costs, something a small manufacturer finds hard to match. Just look at Proton cost per unit vs any big corporations. Malaysia just isn’t big enough to give that break even quantity. Even when Proton was in it’s prime & was exporting all over, the cost was barely manageable but cost per unit still on the high side.
The protectionism policies to protect Proton made Thailand the Detroit of ASEAN. We failed spectacularly again. Today, we can only play the catch up game, not worth it IMHO. Better we look at other things to develop. This car project is soooooo 1980s.
Keadilan (PKR), DAP & Amanah, please stop Mahathir NEW national car project – we can’t afford it.
pls..just pls. Malaysians had enough of Proton’s nightmare and its coffer holes to fill. Pls, just stop it. Enough is enough.
It would be better to focus on preparing the country for the future of EV. Most of the country is still under developed so it is easier to get it done from now on. Internal combustion engines will definitely be a thing of the past for local commutes.
Tun, pls dont. we already have one the most high priced vehicles in the world. What we need is cheaper cars. Look at the loan periods, 9 years. Before they can finish paying off, the vehicle is already giving problems.
SUPPORT!!!
Nooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!
Tun is always harping on national car. Please do not, for once dream of starting another one. Lest Dr M forget, Proton is still wholly owned by Malaysian, no? Geely only owns 49% of Proton?
Does this news still hold any water?
https://paultan.org/2017/05/24/geely-to-acquire-49-9-percent-stake-in-proton-51-percent-in-lotus/
Tun said P1 no longer Msian, so u must belip this. Any other thought is not allowed!
We must buy Malaysian handbags also and not buy Birkin handbags. Rm200k each is way too expensive.
What are you moaning about? We are discussing about national car, not handbags. Did you read the title or are you just doing your job?
Hes doing his job… as paid PH cybertroll.
why bising-bising. Our Tun has saved Malaysia from “Bankclubsee”. He is my hero. He is the man with vision, not like you all. I believe his plan to introduce new Malaysian car is good for the people of Malaysia. Since we already have the technology, know how and experience in setting up a car company, why not? Tun should have thought this matter seriously before he said like that. I believe in Tun’s idea and I fully support it. It will be good for Malaysia. Imagine if you can get a car with just RM25,000! isn’t that is what we want? So why oppose? Please lah Malaysian, please support Tun and continue to support him for what ever decisions made. May God Blesses Malaysia.
Don’t support blindly.
You are probably old enough to remember the launch of first Saga in 1985. It was RM17,000 but, this was the price of Nissan Sunny 130Y before the import tax & excise duty was revised to protect Proton. After the new taxation, Nissan Sunny 130Y was RM 23,000. To get an idea of how big money was back then, a KFC snack plate was RM4. So without the protectionism taxes, Proton is no cheaper than other brands.
Proton was one of TDM grand plan for industrialisation of Msia. It was suppose to spur other ancillary industries thus driving us towards an industrialised nation, Wawasan 2020. But soooooo many things went wrong along the way. End up the tax payers footed the bill year after year to keep Proton from gulung tikar. Our country just isn’t big enough to have a boutique car manufacturer which in today, isn’t economically viable. Enough is enough. Time to move on. Find another industry to bring us towards the new Wawasan 2025. Something more in line with the 21st century.
We need to be producer and the ability to produce something that recognised by the world, a total ownership of our national car not only create jobs and also opportunity for us to progress as better nation and contribute our GDV. Yes, a whole new national car, show that we have the ability to build and compete, not only that we also want to have stake in future car in the world, autonomous car or electric we do have expertise to contribute here. Let start R&D center.
if he insist a new national car, then by all means hire me as the chief designer ;)
Sori dude. Crony designer alredi booked that spot. Pls welcome mimos & TuneD
In PH got no kroni. But maybe you cna recommend desginer who can make Birkin handbag. Nak beli 284 biji
Yes i believe tun can make malaysia car better than
a german car . i hope Tun can hapuskan MRT 1 & 2 .
and force all people to buy P2 2.0
HIDUP TUN
“Tun Dr Mahathir Mohamad says that Malaysia has aspirations to start a new national car project”, that does not mean that its a logical and idealistic to put a in place especially now when our Malaysia is in 1 Trillion debt. After you (Tun M have proved to all Malaysians as you told us all the night after swearing in as PM of Malaysia” Your proven track record of being PM and managing our previous financial crisis was done with you leading the way and if you succeed again now with our current 1 Trillion debt able to be cleared out completely”, then you can aspire all you want to start a new national car project or start a new national bike project, this is one for the history books, why not start a new national plane project, sell planes all around the world like Boeing or Airbus.
All you aspirations can be brought forward and carried out and nobody will question your motifs. So if your in a hurry to get this new national car project of the ground asap, please clear our national debt of 1 Trillion as soon as possible to Zero debt. All Malaysians will welcome and not questions at all any aspirations you might come up down the road. Until such time, its okay to announce your aspirations Dear Tun M but do concentrate of the most critical items to be salvage and make Malaysia great again.
Its understandable you may feel powerful again at your age and the whole world watching and sometimes it clouds one’s judgement but am sure you will hear the voices of Malaysian people and do the right as we put you there again and we can now easily remove you too but lets not go down that road, as you clearly mention its an aspiration, so I hope you as well know, not all aspirations come true and with the proven track record of PROTON, am sure you too can learn from that aspiration you had long time ago, that it was not the right one for Malaysia. Hear us Tun M, your a reasonable person at your current age and end of the day your legacy is already sealed in the history books, don’t turn it around with power and greed, Greed is good but too much corrupts the mind and its bound for failure.
Sapot wei sapot2…. cepat2 mali2 sapot2
The intention is good. Create job opportunity, increase competitiveness of our country in automotive industry and a local made product that Malaysians can be proud of. HOWEVER, Malaysia has a real bad record of doing this. Just recall how much Rakyat’s money has been wasted in Proton. This painful history has told us that it’s not easy to be successful in this and if we going to use the same way to venture in this, eventually these money will just go into drain. Please be more thoughtful in making this decision.
Think from the bright side.
Create car, will bring investor and technology transfer. Will create spin off effect by create more opportunity to make components and parts.
Good parts, can be exported out and support other OEM, also create business for the shipping and logistic company.
Based on the above, you will create more job for the local people and train the skill.
By preventing more good car maker sell their car here will prevent outfolow of currency.
This is a ultimate good move.
But, please give us an equivalent National Car that similar to what Japan national car standard.
Having Proton, Perodua and other non-national car manufacturers invested in Malaysia is more than good enough. No need to spend rakyat’s money on another national car project which only enrich few cronies.
Please do not think that without national car, the car price will drop. No such thing and we can continue dream on. this is the biggest tax revenue for the country.
It doesn’t really matter whether there is a national car or not. if the third national car can be as good as perodua or better, why not? I don’t see people criticized perodua.
Proton failure is not at its concept or idea. Proton failures is mis-managed and design something they think is correct without looking at the bigger market needs. When there is a big hole, it continue deepen.
i don’t really see anyone complain about Proton Saga or Wira in terms of reliability? but from year 2000 onwards, every single product being criticized.
Who said the car price will drop even without national car> But then again, the price increase was solely due to higher tax impose during the national car introduction into the market earlier.
You did not see anyone complaining about Saga and Wira before coz most of us did not have any internet connection and access to blogs at all back in the 90s.
Sudaaa..laaa tok det…buka laa pasaran negara..ambik cth thailand gan indo..takyah ada national car..dh jadi Detroit of asia…takyah guna alasan peluang pekerjaan dh..cukup..rakyat dh buka mata..cukup dh nk beban rakyat paksa rakyat pakai keta national dan bayar keta import 200% tax…
Tun’s aspiration is more than just building cars. If anyone sees beyond as what he sees, we know automotive technology is just a stepping stone to advancement. It’s call innovation and technological difussion. Without the 5 pillars of national industrialisation, a country cannot be reckoned with. In fact, many countries are moving into the 6th pillar of industrialisation, and Malaysia barely command two or three at the max!
Yes… look at Proton.
I am in full sapot on dis idea.
we need a national car brand to make us all proud.
it’s time to make malaysia great again!
OMG NOT AGAIN. I DON’T THINK THIS IS A GOOD IDEA.
good visionary, unfortunately, i dont think Malaysia is ready for it, in terms of open market, policies, talents and resources.
Furthermore, we have got 2 national car companies, are we still able to absorb another 1?
unless you can justify, else please always remember the mistakes in the past.
Yay lets build more national cars. No more public transport. Najib was soooo wrong and bad. Trains are bad. Cars yay. Tun M super yay! Everything he does is right!!
I think he should go for the eco tech route for the new national project. It’s a good investment for the country. Something like Tesla
It will be another unqualified disaster. Malaysians want cheaper cars that’s all. Sack everyone at P1 now. Do not create a new cash gobbling monster.
Ha3. If dr M sees the comments in PT, he will back off. If he still put forward this idea once he comes back, somebody is still is going to throw shoes at him. He should have said this before may 9. Then easy for us to thumbs down. Ku Li said this dr never change.
Better make a new transparent Malaysian company to better develop Malaysian’s alternative public transport system lhoe
When Tun talks about developing a new national car while he is Japan, i suddenly have a theory of what could have been discussed between the two nations during this visit – Who knows maybe Malaysia to co-develop a new national car around the FUEL CELL platform?.
– Japanese government is pushing hard for the adoption of fuel cell technology domestically and internationally by giving out large financial incentives and royalty-free technology transfers. As mentioned by Tun in his previous speeches, he is seeking FDIs that will provide us a high-tech technology transfers that can boost our local technical know-how. Imagine Malaysia being the first nation in ASEANto have this? (something that bodes well with Tun who likes being the first/no.1)
-Fuel cells are powered by hydrogen-gas. Malaysia has large deposits of natural gas and vast network of natural gas refinery centres around Malaysia. This will in-turn make the scaling of the hydrogen gas infrastructure more competitive as compared to other ASEAN countries. Ultimately providing a boost to our local O&G industries.
If Malaysia were to make another national car,I hope it would be a solar powered one with phev. It would be a shame not to make full use of our sunny weather
Please don’t Tun. Enough for the first and last ‘Proton’ . Our nation already lost lot of money, please do not add more lost with another national car project. It will also make another car brand price hike due to protect the national car. Please forget it your idea, Tun.
omg omg..not again. We don’t need another proton 2.0. car industry is low margin industry especially people car.
He’s just testing the water to see how big the opposing waves.
The what if tak jadi? Uturn again? Oh, but thats to be expected from kerajaan Uturn.
Better use the money for other developments, more money for Sarawak to develop and use the money to install AES in Kuching city as many reckless drivers around here.
Malaysian no need PRO-TIGA, as many Malaysian still working in Proton, and with Geely, Malaysian can learn faster and more the know how in automotive world.
I sapot you, uTurn M.. the cronies are waiting to screw up Pro-Tiga again…
I think tun is showing his true intention now…by cancelling most public transport projects to force people to buy his proton 2.0… whilst increasing duty/taxes to protect proton 2.0.
In order to abolish tolls, the only way for gomen to increase income is by raising duty/taxes from non-national car sales. No tolls=high car prices will be the new policy I guess. Next logical move is by introducing more taxes i.e. based on carbon emission, import cars, city entry etc. as an excuse to force people to buy national cars which most people won’t do btw (because of brand loyalty).
For this scheme to work…proton 2.0 will be dirt cheap, low quality, non efficient, not safe so as to discourage most people from buying national cars. Thus making them happy to pay extra duty/taxes for imported cars.
It not malaysia. It just you old man
if want another national car, i do not support national car 2.0, unless its a solar car/ electric car or futuristic car only, if gasoline/petrol/diesel, forget about it
Wash, rinse, repeat..lol. Better scrap that idea la Boss. MRT pon blm habis lagi..
malaysia does not have many expertise in the industry.
malaysia does not have and own the technology to survive the industry alone.
malaysia does not have a system that can build up the new car company.
we need more than one company to build our national car maker. culture, education, mindset, infrastructure.. all these are yet to exist in malaysia.
..as a foreigner who lives here for past 15 years, i have grow to love this country very much..in my humble opinion, i think what is needed in Malaysia is, better transport system, lower taxes, health care, social security and education. This will greatly benefit Malaysia people, and this should be a point of interest. At this point, maybe lowering import tax is good idea if we talk about cars. Once things are stable with mentioned suggestions, national car may be a game to play. Now? I believe it is wrong path to take. Take care of yourself all of you. Luv ya.
No need new national car company:
1) Already too many players
2) Malaysian market is small
3) Malaysia automotive engineers are already good
4) There should not be preferential treatment
5) Car price in Malaysia should be reduced. In the west, people only take few years loan, not 9 years.
Government should not be involved in business. They should focus on improving the bussiness if government. Most of our problems have arisen because governments distort the market and start competing withe the private sector knowing that if they fail the rakyat will foot the bill