Honda City sales numbers in Malaysia – from Toyota Vios alternative to B-segment leader in 4 generations

Honda City sales numbers in Malaysia – from Toyota Vios alternative to B-segment leader in 4 generations

Last week, Honda Malaysia announced that the new City has amassed close to 9,000 bookings. That’s a big number when you consider that the car was launched just slightly more than a month ago on October 13, and the number of options available below RM100k today, which is unprecedented.

The Honda City is a stalwart in the B-segment sedan class, the default choice even, so the latest fifth-generation model has a fair bit of “name” to ride on. But it wasn’t always like that – back in the day, the Toyota Vios was a leader in what was a fresh segment for the Japanese marques – the sub-Civic/Corolla sedan. The City clawed away at the Vios’ head start, gen by gen, before overhauling its big rival.

Here, we take a look at the Malaysian sales numbers of the City and Vios through the generations. Toyota’s history here started in 2003 with the first-generation Vios, although this “Britney Spears Vios” (those who are old enough, remember the ads?) wasn’t the first “Asian car” for the Big T – that was the Soluna, which frequent visitors to Thailand might have noticed before (it slightly resembles the Corolla SEG, but with a higher butt).

With prices starting from just above RM70k, the first Vios was a big hit here, just like Hit Me Baby One More Time. The compact sedan was neatly styled and equipped, had a VVT-i engine and a central meter cluster – all those things were pretty novel back then. UMW Toyota Motor sold 66,583 units of the Vios from 2003 to 2007.

The Vios wasn’t first on the scene, though. When it was launched in May 2003, the second-generation Honda City (the first-gen looked like a mini Civic, remember Type Z? 80s JDM hatchbacks not part of the count) had just gone on sale for below RM80k. The first City launched by Honda Malaysia since its establishment in 2002, the second-gen City was revolutionary to say the least. Derived from the first Jazz, the GD City had an unusual shape that didn’t do much for a sedan’s looks; but boy was it spacious, and that’s before mentioning the versatility the origami-like Ultra Seats delivered.

The second-gen City was also mould-breaking mechanically, introducing the fuel-sipping i-DSI (Intelligent Dual and Sequential Ignition) engine and CVT automatic with steering shift buttons. It wasn’t pretty, and not at all sporty (despite a VTEC version coming along later), but it was a great family car that displayed plenty of innovation next to the conventional Vios. Honda sold over 61,500 of these from 2003 to 2008.

The next City was the third-generation GM2, which was a big departure from the GD. This one injected some “sport” back into the equation, with sharp lines and more balanced proportions – it was slightly longer and wider, but significantly less tall. No more i-DSI, no more CVT and no more beige interior – in came i-VTEC, a five-speed automatic and a black cabin. Having 120 PS also gave Honda fans something to shout about. Over 84,300 Malaysians bought one of these from 2008 to 2014.

Over in the Toyota camp, this was the era of the second-generation Vios, colloquially called the “Dugong Vios” for an alleged resemblance to the cute sea mammal. This sedan sister to the Yaris hatchback boasted significantly increased cabin and boot space, and a distinctive waterfall dashboard (central speedo remained), but the powertrain was carried over with slight tweaking. This XP90 Vios was a big success for UMWT, which sold 178,518 units from 2007 to 2013.

If you’re keeping count, the tally is now over 145,800 units for the City from 2003 to 2014 (not including the Kah Motor era first-gen City), and 245,101 units for the Vios from 2003 to 2013. That’s a big lead for Toyota, but the next chapter is where the tide turns in Honda’s favour.

Toyota lands the first blow with the third-generation Vios, which was launched in Malaysia in October 2013. The XP150 – nicknamed “keli” (Malay for catfish) for the shape of its mouth – carried over the long-serving 1NZ-FE and 4AT powertrain combo, and the 2,550 mm wheelbase. The body was all new though; longer, taller and more aerodynamic than its round predecessor.

The Vios finally received a new engine in 2016, giving the 1NZ-FE – which has been in the Vios since the nameplate was born in 2003 – a well-deserved retirement. Shared with Perodua, the NR series engine with Dual VVT-i was paired to a CVT, which was also making its debut in the Vios.

In 2019, the Vios received a major overhaul to become the car that we know today. The highly-stylised front end, wraparound tail lamps and revamped dashboard gave Toyota’s entry sedan a fresh feel and a harmonised look with the Yaris hatchback. It’s unchanged under the skin, but that’s to be expected as the powertrain was updated in 2016. Combined, the third-gen Vios in its two guises have found 204,490 homes in Malaysia.

Honda City sales numbers in Malaysia – from Toyota Vios alternative to B-segment leader in 4 generations

Over to Honda. With the fourth-generation City, they hit the ball out of the park, so to speak. Debuting a few months after the Vios in March 2014, the GM6 City had a 2,600 mm wheelbase that freed up legroom exceeding Civic and Toyota Camry levels, it was claimed. Rear air con vents and a segment record 536-litre boot made it a great family car. The SOHC i-VTEC engine was just lightly improved, but Honda replaced the 5AT with a CVT, going back full circle with the gearbox.

The Solid Wing Face look of this generation really struck a chord with Malaysians, and over the course of six years, Honda sold over 209,000 units of the outgoing City. While 209k isn’t miles away from the Vios’ 205k, the Toyota had a head start of a few months, and 205k includes the heavily revamped 2019 Vios (City had a regular midlife minor change in 2017). Despite that, in 2019 (the final full year of sales for the outgoing City) the Honda comfortably outsold the fresh-faced Vios, and ended its run ahead of its contemporary nemesis.

Like true arch-rivals, both City and Vios have been reloaded for fresh battle as we speak. Honda launched the fifth-generation City last month, and a facelifted Vios is open for booking. The latter puts a new face on the 2019 Vios, and sales will be added to the 204,490 total, so when we revisit the numbers later, the “third-gen Vios” in its three guises would surely have passed the fourth-gen City’s total. Meanwhile, Honda has reset the counter with the fifth-gen City, which is at 2,400 units now.

The B-segment sedan market has never been more interesting – Honda will release the City RS i-MMD hybrid range topper in January 2021 to join the three existing petrol variants, and Toyota would have its 1.5L NA-only Vios facelift out by then. Meanwhile, the Nissan Almera – which is no longer the “cheap but ugly” option – is taking its own path with a 1.0L turbo engine.

The Nissan looks good, but at the end of the day, it’ll be Honda and Toyota duking it out for sales and bragging rights. It’s way more than just chest thumping though, as the City and Vios are major contributors to the brands’ overall sales and bottom line in Malaysia. Small they may be, but there’s a lot riding on these humble sedans.

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Danny Tan

Danny Tan loves driving as much as he loves a certain herbal meat soup, and sweet engine music as much as drum beats. He has been in the auto industry since 2006, previously filling the pages of two motoring magazines before joining this website. Enjoys detailing the experience more than the technical details.

 

Comments

  • Vios Alternative on Nov 23, 2020 at 9:18 am

    This vios alternative, has struggle to provide better for 2021.

    Current 2021 line up.

    Pros:
    1. 1.5NA
    2. Wira1995 low profile/SagaMK3FL look
    3. LED front and back like Bezza
    4. S & E spec- R15 sport rim like Saga, Axia and Bezza

    Cons
    1. No AEB like Axia, Bezza

    Actually not much cons la

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    • Ouch Dee on Nov 23, 2020 at 10:30 am

      Wow! That’s a lot of PROS!!!

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    • Kuinosan on Nov 23, 2020 at 11:20 am

      Honda City so common around putrajaya area.

      But proton wira surely the abang of this B-segment sedan craze… way before vios n city.

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      • Cik B Gebu on Nov 23, 2020 at 8:21 pm

        Sorry proton wira is C segment car. Iswara is B segment. Wira less hard plastic interior.

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    • AutoFrenz (the original) on Nov 23, 2020 at 1:53 pm

      209k vs 205k not much different…Malaysians like honda no matter how ugly their vehicles are…just look at accord, crv, odyssey…the only country in the world that prefers honda than other makes…

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  • Malaysians Have No Brains To Buy without AEB on Nov 23, 2020 at 9:32 am

    City GM6 used to be top seller b segment because Vios Gen 3 come with 2 airbags while active safety system like HSA, VSC come out with. But we have strange feeling why malaysians have no brainers still wanna to buy City GN2 when City petrol variants doesn’t come with AEB, LDA and Lanewatch while City RS Hybrid have, unlike Vios and Almera. And not even single come with 6 airbags for all city variants, which still comes only 4 airbags for standard and executive. Sounds like Honda Malaysia were so greedy by not prioritizing for their safety

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    • Still waiting for continuation of 5 car models from “input brand here” you should not buy. Or is it just limited to brands most trolled here?

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  • alldisc on Nov 23, 2020 at 10:08 am

    I like this article full of factual infos, kudos to the writer.

    Vios XP150 was doing quite well but destroyed by the poor roof soundproofing and so obvious when it rained. When UMW didnt accept critisms aa its product flaws thats when the market started to swing back to city. And to add salt to wound, Honda launched the City replacement with better safety features, bigger body dimension in all directions and looks which mimic accord and the futuristic fuel cell hydrogen car sold (sold in US and japan).

    Umw was knocked down to its knees before waking up several.years after but its all too late. Toyota used to sell 100k new cars every year between 07-12 – now its just all history.

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    • Kumpul together on Nov 23, 2020 at 12:14 pm

      Toyota historic sales figure is past, but Vios has not many common quality issues with . Unlike Honda, always focus ads on accessories, torque Nm and power of dreams.

      Honda, please focus on safety features, quality reliability and after sale service centre.

      Only in boleh land, Honda is a non national leader, but worldwide sales figure, please check it out why and reason for choosing the Honda competitors.

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    • tokdukun on Nov 23, 2020 at 12:38 pm

      UMW can now just count on commercial vehicle market. Hiace van and Hilux are quite simply in a class of their own. The CV market is quite a different ballgame, no matter if Hilux isn’t the best priced pick up, its reputation alone is its main selling point.

      Even so, never say never.

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  • Sohai on Nov 23, 2020 at 10:41 am

    Isn’t the 2019 Vios an all new 4th gen model instead of the 3rd gen facelift? The exterior and interior are both all new design although the chassis and engine remain the same. That is also why Toyota is coming out with the facelift of this 4th gen soon. UMW Toyota did not bring in the 3rd gen facelift here in Malaysia but it was launched in Thailand.

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    • RayC216 on Nov 23, 2020 at 2:15 pm

      No, the 2019 Vios in MY is actually 3rd gen facelift aka 3.5 gen.

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  • jibby on Nov 23, 2020 at 10:59 am

    patut myvi lawan they all. myvi king of car and malaysian pride of supercar. can fly summore

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  • newuser on Nov 23, 2020 at 11:33 am

    do you agree, those who would like to buy 75k above car price, mostly consider to opt for non national car instead of proton and perodua, especially single buyers and small family members.the proud feeling is difference when you drive honda/toyota/mazda/nissan instead of proton and perodua.

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  • Pull out a spreadsheet and show the numbers comparison side by side to deliver precise and concise points.

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  • ““Dugong Vios” for an alleged resemblance to the cute sea mammal”

    Cute? (Vomit)

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    • alvin on Nov 23, 2020 at 2:20 pm

      At that time, 2008-2014
      It looks like a mini muscle car. Very decent.
      Handling and comfort was good for that time.

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  • Muhammad Arshad Bin Mustapaha on Nov 23, 2020 at 1:26 pm

    Simple for H.city.. fuel consumption good… looks good (quite subjective) and the NVH inside.. decent. And price despite more than persona but the bank interest for non national brand below 3. Sometimes just 2.4% only.

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  • RayC216 on Nov 23, 2020 at 2:17 pm

    No, the 2019 Vios in MY is actually 3rd gen facelift aka 3.5 gen.

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  • seancorr (Member) on Nov 23, 2020 at 5:21 pm

    At the current gen both are pretty well kitted out TBH. Back in those days it was a clear cut decision on which I should buy but now I can just pick either and be contented with it if I was looking for a small sedan in the market.

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  • David Chai on Nov 23, 2020 at 8:40 pm

    Nissan Almera looks decent but Tan Chong should have priced it under 75k. It can only dream to be on par with Vios and City. Unfortunately, wrong strategy for thinking it’s competing with Vios and City. If Nissan would just for once price the Almera dirt cheap, they’ll find a new young generation of buyers willing to try out Nissan. And it’ll serve Nissan well in the next decade or so.

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  • Dino Bravo on Nov 27, 2020 at 5:19 pm

    No need to buy la. Sometimes, up to 9 years loan. 5 years loan ok la. Save money for stormy days.

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  • Developing nations like ours are pathetic because we bank on B-segment sedans so much. Over in Canada and US they don’t even sell these mini cars there, and even Civic and Corolla are known as “compact” sedans. It’s because of our BS excise duty that necessitates this kind of watered down products from car manufacturers. Sad.

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