Perodua Ativa – how D-CVT is different to other CVTs

Perodua Ativa – how D-CVT is different to other CVTs

Welcome to part three of our deep dive series into the Perodua Ativa (also known as the D55L), where the focus this time is on the transmission that will be used by the compact B-segment SUV.

UPDATE: We’ve driven the new Perodua Ativa! Read our first impressions review here.

Based on all the information we have so far, it’s known that the Ativa will have quite a bit in common with the Daihatsu Rocky and Toyota Raize. This includes the use of the 1KR-VET 1.0 litre turbocharged three-cylinder petrol engine and the Daihatsu New Global Architecture (DNGA), the former of which is paired with a D-CVT.

We’ve already talked about the 1KR-VET and DNGA in parts one and two, so if you want to know more about either of them, just click on the links above. In this post, we’re discussing the Ativa’s D-CVT, which is not only the first for a Perodua model, but is different from a conventional CVT. What does the “D” stand for? How does it operate? Read on to find out.

D-CVT – Dual mode CVT, world’s first split-gear system

Perodua Ativa – how D-CVT is different to other CVTs

Daihatsu’s full marketing term for its D-CVT is Dual mode CVT, and the transmission first made its debut alongside the DNGA platform with the fourth-generation Tanto kei MPV back in July 2019. At the time, the company claimed the D-CVT was the world’s first split-gear CVT system that combines belt drive with a gear drive, resulting in improved fuel efficiency, acceleration feel and quietness.

The Raize, which shares the same transmission, was publicised as the the very first Toyota model to use D-CVT technology in 2019.

Why a CVT is ideal for small cars

Before getting into what Daihatsu is on about, let’s start with the fundamentals. In a typical CVT, there is an input pulley that is connected to the engine crankshaft through a torque converter (or clutch pack) and an output pulley that sends power to the wheels. A belt (or chain) connects the two pulleys, which can alter their diameters to provide an infinite number of gear ratios.

Without any gears, the stepless transmission allows for smoother acceleration and efficiency, while being smaller in size compared to transmissions that do have gears. This is a good set of characteristics for Daihatsu, as it allows for better packaging in its kei and compact cars.

But there are downsides to a traditional CVT

Perodua Ativa – how D-CVT is different to other CVTs

However, there are some downsides, as CVTs typically experience energy losses due to friction (of the belt or chain) as compared to geared transmission. That’s not all, as CVTs bring with them a normal whining sound due to all that belt-on-pulley action, which is more profound when it has to deal with heavy loads like during hard acceleration or high speeds.

Furthermore, a CVT will always want to keep the engine operating within its peak output rpm by varying its gear ratio accordingly, which is why the engine sounds “tortured” as the vehicle gets up to speed, even if it isn’t – that’s just the way it works.

At higher speeds like while highway cruising, the CVT is at its highest possible ratio, which might still result in the engine being at a high rev point that isn’t good for fuel economy. One method to expand the gear ratio range of a CVT is by increasing the size of the pulleys, although this is counterintuitive if the unit has to be small.

D-CVT shifts from belt to gears on higher load

Perodua Ativa – how D-CVT is different to other CVTs

Unlike conventional CVTs, Daihatsu’s D-CVT doesn’t just rely on belt drive, but introduces split gears into the mix. As you can see from the cutaway of the D-CVT, there are additional gears and a planetary gear set fitted to the input and output shafts of the pulleys, with a clutch pack to engage or disengage the latter.

In normal operation, when you’re pulling off from a stop and travelling up to low to medium speeds, the D-CVT functions like any other CVT, with the engine’s torque going through a torque converter and into the input pulley, before being transferred to the output pulley via a belt and to the wheels.

However, when you get up to higher speeds (Daihatsu says between 40-90% driving force in its presentation), the D-CVT shifts into its split mode, engaging the gear drive that provides a more efficient (less energy loss) means of power transmission, while the rotation to the belt drive is decreased significantly.

You can see this transition between normal and split mode in a video by Japan’s Web Cartop above. At low to medium speeds, the belt drive is fully engaged, but at higher speeds, the D-CVT’s clutch pack brings the gear drive into operation, relieving the belt drive.

Not Toyota’s Direct Shift-CVT, but an entirely different Dual mode CVT

While both the D-CVT and Direct Shift-CVT have additional gears in them, Toyota’s approach is totally different as it adds on a launch gear that acts like a first gear in a conventional transmission. The launch gear is used when setting off from a stop, before the transmission switches to belt drive like a CVT instead.

Toyota’s Direct Shift-CVT was first revealed in February 2018 and was designed to offer a more direct drive connection at low speeds. It is not the same as their older CVTs used in the Vios and Yaris, and not all models get it (even the newer Corolla Cross). In Malaysia, you’ll find the Direct Shift-CVT on the Lexus UX as well as the base RAV4.

In a way, the D-CVT is like a “flipped” version of the Direct Shift-CVT, as gear drive is used at higher speeds rather than for setting off. So, why not just adapt Toyota’s technology then? Well, adding a gear selector to engage the launch gear increases the complexity of the transmission, which could be costly and wouldn’t be suitable for budget vehicles.

Better transmission efficiency, lower rpm, gear ratio range equivalent to an eight-speed automatic

Perodua Ativa – how D-CVT is different to other CVTs

It’s all facts and figures at this point, as Daihatsu says the split gears allow the gear ratio range of the D-CVT to be extended on both low and high sides from 5.3 to 7.3. On the low side, it has a higher number of short ratios to handle acceleration, while on the other end, high ratios allow it to be better suited for high-speed cruising.

The company notes that a conventional CVT’s gear ratio range is typically equivalent to that of a normal six-speed automatic, but the D-CVT in split mode is closer to an eight-speed unit instead. This is achieved purely thanks to the split gears, as there’s no need to make pulleys larger for a wider gear range ratio.

Perodua Ativa – how D-CVT is different to other CVTs

Compared to a regular CVT, the D-CVT in split mode experiences less energy losses as the friction that comes with the belt drive in play is removed. This results in improved transmission efficiency by 12% at 60 km/h and by 19% at 100 km/h.

The engine speed is also reduced by at those speeds by 200 rpm and 550 rpm respectively, so you hear less of the engine at work and benefit from better fuel consumption too. Daihatsu also claims that drivers will have 15% better acceleration feel, which should reduce the “sluggishness” that people feel when using normal CVTs.

Ultra compact, smallest in the world, but with max torque limit of 150 Nm

Perodua Ativa – how D-CVT is different to other CVTs

For more figures, the company says that the distance between the centre of the input and output pulleys in the transmission is only 136 mm, while the distance between the centre of the transmission’s input and output points is just 168 mm, both claimed to be the smallest in the world.

Limitations? Like other CVTs and normal transmissions, the D-CVT is can only handle a certain amount of torque, which is up to 150 Nm. Daihatsu says its transmission is optimised to be used in all models from mini (kei cars) to vehicles with engine capacities of up to 1.5 litres.

Since kei cars are limited to 660 cc by regulation, with a max output of 64 PS (63 hp), the D-CVT is more than up to the task. As for the 1KR-VET in the Ativa, it makes 98 PS (97 hp) and 140 Nm, which is well within bounds of the D-CVT, so the pairing is well within the limits.

So, the effect on driving experience?

To summarise, the D-CVT should offer smooth acceleration up to medium speeds, but with better fuel consumption and a quieter drive at high speeds. It’s more compact, has a wider range of ratios and allows for lower rpms at cruising speeds, with reduced belt friction/slip losses. Perodua claims a class-leading fuel consumption figure of 18.9 km per litre.

However, as you will see in the video above, it still behaves like a traditional CVT on full throttle situations, where it holds on to a very high rev (between 5,500 to 6,000 rpm) under hard acceleration. It does not simulate any gear changes like certain newer CVTs from Toyota and Nissan. Now this is something users will have to get used to, especially if they’re coming from a normal torque converter automatic like Perodua’s own 4AT.

Interestingly, the Rocky and Raize have a Power button on the steering wheel, which remaps the engine and gearbox for quicker throttle response. It’s unclear, however, if the Perodua version will come with the same function.

CVT is the way forward for Perodua

Perodua Ativa – how D-CVT is different to other CVTs

With all this information, it is clear that D-CVT is the way forward for Daihatsu and Perodua. It’s a brand new transmission technology designed alongside the DNGA platform, and it will be used in most, if not all new product launches from now on. So, like it or not, D-CVT is here to stay.

While it is unlikely that the current Perodua models will shift from 4AT to D-CVT anytime soon, the next generations models will very likely feature the new transmission, starting with the rumoured DNGA-based new D27A Alza.

So, armed with this info, what do you think of the Perodua Ativa’s D-CVT?



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Comments

  • YB Albert on Feb 24, 2021 at 2:54 pm

    Perodua is giving uptodate specs for this Ativa.
    Those who got fed up of waiting 6 -8 months for X50,current car in need of more repairs,and want a car to balik kampong for Raya,dont mind settling for less power but get cheaper price,what are you waiting for?
    You cant have brutal horse power,big space,state of the art sound system,tremendous torque ,sensuous design all at one go,at Rm64000-65000 on the road,right?
    If you still want nothing but X50,then wait lor.
    I think His Excellency Hafriz of paultan has booked his Ativa.

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    • Hafriz Shah (Member) on Feb 24, 2021 at 3:26 pm

      No I haven’t. I don’t think I will.

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      • Basher Dont Learn on Feb 24, 2021 at 4:06 pm

        Stop typing. Go buying

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      • John doe on Feb 24, 2021 at 4:56 pm

        Not that great a car when compared to the x50. X50 just seems to be a better car/choice for enthusiasts

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        • Hafriz Shah (Member) on Feb 24, 2021 at 5:46 pm

          For enthusiasts, I completely agree. But for a typical Malaysian looking for a new car to get them from day to day, A to B, at under RM100k, I think the Ativa is the one to beat now.

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    • John Geli on Feb 24, 2021 at 6:03 pm

      Better trade-in X50 buy Ativa because DNGA is Don’t Need Geely Anymore.

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    • Have just ordered one. All I wanted was a replacement for my 20 year old Kembara (great machine) second car. After waiting months for X50 and no contact from Proton, have cancelled, do they even know themselves when delivery’s will be? Perodua have promised 1 month so will see. In reality I don’t need parking assist or voice control windows. I believe Japanese technology and quality will prevail over Chinese gadgets and poor quality, as noted by door handles.

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      • Bro, you made the right choice! Inikalilah!! But dun sje2 cari alasan, you contact Proton to find out though

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  • Fun of driving:
    MT > DCT > CVT > AT

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    • surprisingly the Dcvt acceleration is faster than the vios 0-100km/hr…

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      • But both CVT Vios and DCVT Ativa are more reliable gearbox

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      • Plus, CVT Vios have more benefits which helps to reduce noise level and makes acceleration more smoother and linear as well as better FC

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  • Honda on Feb 24, 2021 at 3:15 pm

    So much high techs. Well done to Daihatsu

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    • John Geli on Feb 24, 2021 at 8:22 pm

      Toyota engine + Aisin dcvt gearbox at Rm70k

      Simply way better than any Proton Geely out there.

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      • Max modell on Jul 16, 2023 at 11:42 am

        Just Toyota engine with cheapo gearbox. See FB groups there’s a lot of ativa with gearbox Kong. Naik genting pun xboleh. At least proton doesn’t have gearbox problems

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  • Ativa on Feb 24, 2021 at 3:21 pm

    Nice!

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  • myvier on Feb 24, 2021 at 3:36 pm

    Can fly like myvi?

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  • Yusuf on Feb 24, 2021 at 3:37 pm

    Assalamualaikum Hafriz, is this D-CVT utilizing torque converter or wet clutch to handle the car launch from standstill? If wet clutch, i think many people will not get use to it, the jerk forward feel will always be there just like punch cvt especially when the clutch adaptation was not optimized. If torque converter, then perodua might be in the right direction. Although Toyota CVT with 1st physical gear looks more tempting.

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    • Hafriz Shah (Member) on Feb 24, 2021 at 3:53 pm

      It uses a torque convertor, like non-Direct Shift Toyota CVTs.

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  • practical car lover on Feb 24, 2021 at 3:42 pm

    I saw that the RPM hovers at 3200 RPM at 120kph? Isnt that quite high for a CVT? i guess thats the tradeoff as its a small 1.0L turbo engine.

    i believe the current 4AT cruising RPM is lower?

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    • Donald najib on Feb 24, 2021 at 4:59 pm

      Yup myvi 1.5 at 120 is about 2.5-3k depending on load and ac

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  • M & B on Feb 24, 2021 at 3:47 pm

    Nice

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  • Talking about toyota, both D-CVT and CVT are also from Aisin, both are more reliable gearbox

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  • alphard on Feb 24, 2021 at 4:10 pm

    DCVT is cheapo version of Direct Shift CVT, avoid at all cost

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    • Hafriz Shah (Member) on Feb 24, 2021 at 4:25 pm

      It’s a whole different thing, developed for different applications. Do read the article.

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  • Jason on Feb 24, 2021 at 4:26 pm

    Is this D-CVT produced in Malaysia Akashi Kikai plant?
    or imported from Daihatsu Japan Plant?

    Hope to have better performace than Proton’s CVT

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  • Johnny Silverhand on Feb 24, 2021 at 5:02 pm

    Why can’t just put a 5speed auto instead of all this cvt nonsense. Even the old 4at is not to bad but a 5spd or 6 spd

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    • Alive & kicking on Feb 25, 2021 at 7:39 am

      Could it be that those who dislike the CVT mostly due to the dissatisfaction with the Punch CVT that was used by Proton?
      The 2002-2008 Honda City came with CVT, but the 2008-2014 City came with 5AT. Then the 2014-2020 City came with the CVT.
      Did Honda decide not to use the CVT in 1 generation of the City model because it needed to address some issues with this type of transmission?

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  • sammy on Feb 24, 2021 at 5:35 pm

    for such price, it is not expensive at all.
    The comparisons between Toyota Direct Shift CVT and Daihatsu D-CVT are like saying one’s pros are the cons of the other and vice versa :) .

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  • Dogbert on Feb 24, 2021 at 10:22 pm

    Have to be very careful during transmission oil changes then until everyone gets familiar.

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  • JRigEverythings on Feb 24, 2021 at 11:54 pm

    Chain Belt is Chain Belt. And Chain belt breaks.

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  • benlau on Feb 25, 2021 at 5:18 am

    “This results in improved transmission efficiency by 12% at 60 km/h and by 19% at 100 km/h.”
    how inefficient is the old transmission that it can be improved by such huge margin?

    most modern transmission like the ones in VW or Mazda has efficiency above 90%. Modern as in, last 10 years.

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  • dragdriver on Feb 25, 2021 at 10:16 am

    For sure higher maintenance cost than the ordinary 4at transmissions. And will keep u back to the perodua service center for a proper oil change. Hopefully not like the proton cvt, cvt oil + filter + oil pan sum + labour = rm500++.

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  • Caramel on Feb 25, 2021 at 2:03 pm

    As current owner of Honda City 2014, i think what this DCVT trying to archieve is already there not something new

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    • Playsky on Feb 25, 2021 at 5:57 pm

      Nope, you do not have mechanical cog in your 2014 Honda city.

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  • LongCarFollower on Feb 05, 2022 at 6:30 pm

    Talk so good but pick up to century above 14 seconds is unacceptable. Today’s car must be at around 10 seconds like any B segment car. Substandard engine for Rm70k car.Bring the hybrid Ativa, hope for better acceleration.

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  • If Toyota and Daihatsu want to combine d-cvt and direct shift- cvt in the future i think it will be intelligence gearbox because it will be fun to drive a car with responsive feel acceleration and fuel efficiency..

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  • Perodua.Co on Jul 26, 2023 at 2:50 pm

    but CVT engine has common issue, is this a sign for driver to really taking care of their car. despite all the advantages we had, but still….

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