The Volkswagen Passat has been given a minor update in Malaysia – the D-segment sedan now has Bluetooth, audio streaming, 12-way electrically-adjustable front seats with driver memory, electric folding wing mirrors and an anti-theft alarm with electronic immobiliser.
Other than those additional features, the rest of the car has similar specs. Same 160 PS/250 Nm 1.8 TSI, same seven-speed DSG. Candy White, Light Brown, Reflex Silver, Deep Black, Black Oak Brown and Icelandic Grey body colours are available.
The updated Passat is open for booking at RM170,817, OTR without insurance – about RM20k less than the CBU Passat Sport.
new features, old problems
DAS FAIL
DSG BRO, not DAS
That just made my day
There goes the Naza salesmen again. Mostly trolls.
HAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHA
They can make all the updates but the DSG is still the same. Still hearing my friends with 2014 DSG breaking down so often. So, the DSG is not a pre 2013 problem. It is also a 2014 problem.
VW Germany already admit on May 08 2013, all their DSG boxes, whether its 2013 or earlier years strictly cannot handle 1) Hot Asian Climate 2) Asian traffic jams otherwise prone to non stop breakdowns. This is an admission in black and white. What this means is that, their DSG cars CANNOT be sold in Malaysia at all unless you want to use the car in the night only when it is cooling and got no jam.
For existing DSG owners, there is no way around it. Even the recent global mass recalls cannot sort this problem out. They will just put in a new DSG box when they recall but ALL the DSG boxes by Borg Warner are inherently defective.
How can I trust a car company who denied for years there was nothing wrong with their DSG until the China government came down hard on them?
So, a reminder again, the DSG cars should not have been sold or to be sold in Malaysia in the first place. You can use this car in Europe but a big NO in Malaysia. As earlier said, unless you use the car ONLY at night (when it is cooling) and there is NO traffic jam.
Pity current DSG owners. Their prices are going to have a free fall plummetting to ridiculous levels. Bargain hunters can now buy a 2012 Golf or Passat for less than RM90k because everybody knows about the DSG problems. Its all over the VW facebook page. Most owners are mad that to replace their DSG box takes 3 months. So, 3 months no car!
VW owners must do a class action suit against VW Malaysia. They knew about this problem for years but persisted in selling still right up to APril 2014 DSG cars. In overseas, people are suing because it is a danger. Many people accident and die because halfway overtaking DSG lose power.
I think the joke was “DAS AUTO = DAS FAIL”
DAS auto dude
DAS AUTO BRO…LOL
DAS AUTO…BRO..LOL
DAS AUTO BRO….WHAT HE MEANT
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So many armchair critics, no actual car owner, so how to believe?
All owners now crying in silence …
Owner here. Don’t understand what’s the fuss about the DSG. One or two customers having problems and the world act like DSG is some sort of plague.
Let me tell you people one thing – DSG is the future. It’s efficient, it’s effective. Perhaps not so reliable (for some owners) but faultless to me.
Once you’ve gotten used to the Auto-Hold feature and the directness of the DSG, there’s no going back to conventional Torque Converter autos.
Many people died in the Camry. Nobody died in a VW.
it is true.. i watch a crash test clip lately..
camry and prius score so poor.. honda accord & suzuki kizashi is good.
even hyundai sonata and vw jetta score better than camry and prius..
here is the clip guys.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFcAliaRVgo
toyota should really put more effort on car building instead of pricing and marketing.
Not toyota is UMW !!!
Nice sharing! But there is some incorrect information.
Toyota Camry: It should be from bad to worse, because it has only 2-airbag in Malaysia.
Honda Accord: It should be from good to bad, alsoe because it has only 2-airbag in Malaysia.
The rest of others brand and model which available in Malaysia, is sharing an international standard. So, is accurate accordingly.
Nobody died in VW? Those died in Europe are not human?
No one buy the car of course no one die, common sense.
Less people die in Proton Tiara compared to Toyota Camry, so Proton Tiara a better car?
There are much more people die on the road compared to in sea. So the sea is safer place?
He is refering to died to to techical fault of the car la, not due to everyday accidents. In the case of Camry, many died due to the sudden acceleration fault of the car.
Ah lah Toyota hailat safest la…….behave macam like children.
If Europeans would drive ASEAN spec Toyotas the death rate on European roads would go through the roof. EU spec Toyotas are fine. But the cut cost junk they are selling in Malaysia? Why can’t they sell the European Yaris in Malaysia, rather than the no one cars if people dienASEAN version (which is totally different from what Europe and Japan get)? They sell that version in Singapore.
VW’s faults are expensive and annoying. Toyota’s faults are deadly.
Hey, Toyota also got recall campaign !!! Big big news now !!
DAS auto
Yes, and the 2013 batch which they haven’t sold up to now is going for RM149k at their showrooms.
And another thing, up to now, it didn’t have power folding mirrors? Maybe all the technological research funds went into their DSG transmission.
Yes, previous version CBU dun have electric folding wing mirrors. What a joke for a car in that price tag.
My Jetta have electrical folding mirrors but operated manually, and I thought Passat have auto folding mirrors.
IMHO, Passat was never a bargain to buy to begin with. If I have the budget, I would buy 2.4/2.5 D-segment Japanese/Korean cars instead
Before any of you talk bad about this car. Drive it first, then own it for more than 2 years like I did. If you are not satisfied, sell it. My car is now closing in on its third year. Far better than the Toyota Camry I owned previously and also the Honda Accord.
salesman ah?
better ah?
Yes, no doubt this car handles pretty well and have slightly better FC. But this is the only interesting point for this car selling at 170K IMHO. Selling it at 170K puts it in no man’s land.
Sell this car 10k cheaper and it will be a winner
I’m driving a passat sport Year 2013 with the milleage of around 42000km and you’re right passat has good FC you can easily hit 1000km driving within legal speed limit on freeway with a tank of fuel and it’s handling is much better than Japanese Camry and Accord. But the car is very problematic, Below is the summary of what I’ve been through.
1. Car jerking going off on 1st & 2nd gear, every single
volkswagen with 7 speed DSG has this problem – The
multiple clutches of DSG replaced. (Around 22000km)
2. Abnormal gear changes and engine check light – Fuel
Line replaced (Around 25000km)
3. Abnormal engine combustion, losing power and
Engine check – injector replaced (Around 33000km)
4. Strong engine vibration and engine shaking violently
when the gear is on ‘N’. The Service centre told that
the Fuel Tank need to be replaced because of Fuel
pressure issue and it is a common issue associated
with Passat. (Around 42000km)
VOLKSWAGEN MALAYSIA should have recalled all their cars associated with these common issues rather than waiting for car owners to turn themselves in. COST SAVING on recalls program will backfire on your car sales. VGM you read it right, your cars are problematic and you handle it poorly!
Bro…VW oredi solved the dsg problem..all car made from mid of 2013 have new parts installed into the dsg and it is proven thus vw china cancel the 10 years warranty starting from April 2014..just bought mk6 at below RM100k with high spec.. .
Dear Passat’s problems,
I disagree with your No. 1 problem. You said, “…Car jerking going off on 1st & 2nd gear, every single
volkswagen with 7 speed DSG has this problem.”
My 2010 Polo with 7-speed DSG did not encounter this problem.
LIM, I AGREED WIF U.
Hahahahahahahaha
ONLY NOW vw offers electric folding wing mirrors in passat! smart move indeed!
Electric folding mirror is the most basic function that must have in thr car yet it doesn’t have in the previous 1? What a joke it is..
wondering, how important or how often do people really use their electric folding side mirror,because so far,I rarely fold my mirror on my Myvi and Vios.
IMO,just some extra features to attract customers,yes,we do use it once in a blue moon,but not always.
Own a bigger car before you judge. Park a camry or a passat next to another Dsegment or suv in a parking lot then you’ll realise it.
I fold my wing mirrors all the time when its parked. Its a double edged sword. As a courtesy to other people walking past and at the same time saving my wing mirror from being pounded by oblivious passersby.
i’m folding my mirror ALL the time before i leave the car, maybe u didnt drive any wider car before to realize how important to fold the mirror
Puiii u have no idea how important electric folding mirrors are especially in bigger cars!!
Just breaking one side mirror will make you cry especially ones with side view cameras!
I will give it a Pass at it
RM170k?! I think I’ll pass and get a Mazda 6.
hopefully the mechatronic will last for the minimum 5 years of my ownership…
For rm170k, it doesn’t even have reverse camera and keyless entry where now most cars (even cheaper) have that too.
Somehow, i tested 2 passat, one brand new and one pre-reg, the dashboard do creaks over certain road. Not always but it comes and go. I am surprised german build quality have such creak from their dashboard. CKD fault ???
Who say no reverse camera? Got la. Don’t simple bluff la salesman!
There is no reverse camera for passat 1.8tsi ckd la.
there is optical parking system but no reverse camera
I’m not sure why these people saying that there is no reverse camera is getting thumbed down. I drive a Passat and memang it has no reverse camera, unless u pay an extra RM3500 for it (c/w bluetooth, etc)
i think 12-way electrically-adjustable front seats with driver memory function make it quite expensive. also, for me, vw color variant less choice and less impressive.
I actually thought power folding mirrors were standard at this price considering a 50k B segment hatch has it.
Surprising but real indeed. Same goes for more expensive cars like the C class or 3 Series which do not even have keyless access as standard in which you would expect them to have in that price range…
when is the ckd jetta be introduced???
how vw solve the dsg problem. introduce a new variant. german logic. perghhh
Is it because the upcoming Passat B8 will be introduced this year worldwide and now VW M’sia trying to get rid of their stock so to clear path for B8? Highly believe so.
fix the issue first..then only consider advertising facelift or any-lift.
Actually there is no problem with VW cars. Yes, there is a problem with dry clutch DSG, but it is not a serious problem and it can be resolved easily. Even Ford and Honda, as well as the BMW M5 has the same problem. But nobody is complaining. They are only complaining about VW because their rice bowl is affected as they are mostly competitor salesman. Just use logic, what are the most common European cars on the road today – it is of course, VW. What are the European cars affected by VW’s success? Mostly cars in the Naza and Sime Darby stable.
So you think when your car stucked in the SC for 2 months due to warranty claim without courtesy car is normal?
Do you think changing clutch pack every 25k km +- and changing mechatronic every 60k km +- are normal?
OK dont talk about M5, but how many Honda on the road compared to VW? After so many years Honda is selling cars here and there are no ppl protest infront of Honda Malaysia. The reason is because VW really made their owners crazy about the after sales service! Other car makers are still within tolerance level.
Not a serious problem? My aunt almost died because her DSG box decides to fail at the middle of an intersection. 2 cars spun out trying to avoid her.
VW have to stop showing off their advanced-but-unreliable tech in their normal lineups. Seriously, what sort of advantage can DSG give to normal daily-driven cars? 1 secs faster to office? 0.1L/100km fuel saving?
This stupid problem wont happen if they just use the famous 8-spd ZF auto like most other new European cars. It’s just as quick and efficient.
would appreciate comments and reviews from actual owners or drivers of passat. well at least we can get honest and real experience from them :)
You obviously must have been living under a rock all this while….Haven’t you seen the outrage by ACTUAL owners on their DSG issues? The public outcry infront of VW’s HQ in Bangsar? NO? Here’s a link : https://www.facebook.com/pages/Vw-Dsg-7-Defects-Community/306447496142735
I’m a owner of a 2013 passat..
It sound cool to have folding mirror n memory seat.
From my own personal view.. have or don’t have this functions it doesn’t really add any significant value to me.
It drive decently with sufficient power delivered in all situation when u need it. Power n stability wise..im still sorry for you Camry 2.5
What I can share at least 2013 model is way better situation compare to those 2010 to 2012 Golf / 7 speedo model which suffer both machatronic
N clutch problem.
2013 model, mainly there still facing clutch issue.. same apply to my model.. since then vw has came up with 3 version improved clutch n I’m waiting mine to replace.
don’t get me wrong.. my.car still drive nicely n smoothly is just a very small creeping / juddering changing from D1 to D2.. which I wise to address immediately. .
The real complaint was rather on their availability of parts to be replace.. Please improve your inventory please…
Regular interval service.. I nvr have problem to secure an appointment. .
Some complaint VW Service Advisor has bad attitude or not professional. . So far I’m ok with them.. bcoz it all begin from how we communicate with them. If we start conversation with high tonne.. sure la ppl also tension. How we treat ppl.. same way how ppl will response to us..
peace..
You seem to be very forgiving with the VW shortcomings. Congratulations. I wonder if people would also show the same patience if the problem car was a Proton instead.
My case maybe I’m more privilege coz I still have a spare car.
Even thts the case.. It doesn’t mean I need to be harsh VW SA.. They are helpless too coz the problem is at VGM. For matter fact.. be friend with SA.. you get things to move easier..
Just an open question. If 7 speed DSG works perfectly without issue.. who wont want to buy a VW? Who wont love a VW TSI? Not everyone can own a BMW or Mercedes right coz they r premium.
I guess the only argument would likely focus on reducing tax by gomen to make it more affordable.
Peace.
Hi John,
I’m a owner of 2012 Passat.
For your juddering issue from D1 to D2, can be settle by replace a new O-ring in the DSG.
The add on really feel great compare to my version. Bluetooth, electric folding mirror & Memory Seat is way expensive if to install outside.
Anyway, have a good ride.
Cheers. :)
Heared that all Passat’s have rattling dashboard
A well mannered, cool headed VW owner review. You are certainly a rare sight in these parts! (Not a VW owner, but I personally know six colleagues with VW Polo and Golf for TWO years without problems yet which is why I am kinda skeptical about the DSG outrage.)
And yes, I have sat in four of them quite frequently during lunch times.
Couldn’t agree you more , a view supported by facts and reasobable of the passat , not like others simply bash the dsg problem as if every vw car fitted dsg can not used at all, they dont know and simply bash
John…are u the roti john that ask people to go back home in BMW 7 series article comment?
i believe only those old man cheat by the sales person will buy this old uncle fashion car. adding in those non constructive even non usefull feature. this in other hand, no different with P1 car.
True, I nearly kena con by sales man from Wearnes who said the 2013 Passat CC using different gearbox compared to local Passat. Six speed wet clutch instead of 7-Speed DSG. Lucky got Paultan.org to confirm it doesn’t.
Pay a bit more get much better Lexus ES (for unker like me).
Hiya, whatever all you guys say, this car will still sell better than any other European car. You know why? Because actual car buyers don’t read this. They buy based on emotion or pricing, that is practical to them.
One thing for sure…dsg gearbox does not design for stage upgrade. Keep my stock passat for last 2years with problem free.
folding side mirrors finally? electric-adjustable seats finally, bluetooth finally?
omaigawd, omaigawddd… the premium brand is getting more premium by the day. i can’t wait to bask in the premiumness of this prestigious VW car!
Das Premium.
Better buy Peugeot 508. The French Connection.
give extra goodies also kena bash. what’s wrong with people now a days.
There goes the Naza salesman. Asking you to buy a car that would cost you twice as much as a BMW for parts repair.
Why is it that 90% of VW buyers are Chinese, while 90% of Peugeot buyers are Malays. Can someone please explain?
And 90% indian buy Mahindra
Coz Ah Beng smart liao these days…
last time use to install loud exhaust as if it add 100 HP.
Installed loud stereo.. to show their love on music..
Now most conti.. which include VW.. Most model equip with turbo.. n nice stereo system..
So ah Beng invest money smarter lol.. u get power while balance in comfort.
Put aside those creatures comforts, VW is way better then their japanese and korean rival at the same price range in term of handling and safety aspect.
This 2013 car 2nd hand aready 90k ma…CAMRY NEW GX much…much refined..and those KIMCHIS ..,no RV..
Sam.. dam I waited so long for you.. finally ur hailat comment arrived..
how can PT complete with you.. Sam
No Avatar=Imposter
I owned passat B7. I still prefer to drive my 7 yrs old accord compared to 1 yr old passad.
Mind to elaborate more why u love ur accord more? I love my old E46… but my B7 is more economical. . Comfortable. . Safer.. as E46 aged
what a joke
exhilarating drive with dsg issues vs boring japs drive. Choice is yrs. DSG with new version mechatronic n clutch plate for my 2010 golf no more issue. I still prefer the VW drive than my previous Camry. To be frank I suffered with juddering until VW came out with the new version and did the recall last yr. So I think 2013 model onwards should be better but sad thing VW sales plunge coz they address too late damage done . Reputation hancur !
Why would 200+ppl protest picket in front of VW HQ in Bangsar screaming about 2 engines and 2 gearboxes in 2 years on 2011 models?
The key here is 2011 model, Sam Loo. Go back to school if you dont understand the topic. Your Camry kills people. So pls dont compare with these topics.
The 200 people are Toyota salesmen. Ha, ha, ha.
My rm95k Peuegot 408 has electric folding side mirror. No need to buy this expensive vw to have that feature
did you have any experience driving a passat?
if you compare with high spec camry, the experience like you riding a ex5 and duke 690…
Another sui kwan eur car with No RV
Wah.. Not bad ah ..some ppl got skills to calculate epidemiological distribution based on race and car brands..
Peugeot’s r having a renaissance in Europe and I used to drive one and its not exp to repair like a bmw coz I used to have one also. if u go to the bmw forums, a lot of issues also with F10 (e.g. F10 having issues going thru 1 feet of water).
Pijat is also not expensive to buy used coz there is No RV
Excuse me, Peugeot is bankrupt in Europe that the Chinese have to buy them out. They are the worst performer in Europe.
VW=Very Worrisome
Do consider a used Sonata.
2012 models selling for around RM50k
Hey Sam Loo, you no bal*s ah? Don’t dare comment on the Toyota recall link, but talking c*ck here. Your Toyota is far worse than any VW. At least VW and Nissan have cars that have won World’s Best Engine more than 7 times. What your Toyota got? Nothing, almost as bad as a Lada.
Toyota resale value high only because got a lot of stupid people like your kind. Thats all.
Toyota and lexus have high resale value for a reason, the cars are reliable. Volkswagen is a piece of shot if you ask me and I am driving g a passat.
Folding mirror? C’mon guys .., the VW DISEASE is worse aready… Can we now call it VW CANCER… We malaysian are so forgiving because we believe that VW IS SO CLASSY.. Soo hailat… Even 2003 camry still drives good today…the problem with VGM IS ACTUALLY THEY LOOKED DOWN ON US…how About for 6 month everybody cancelled all VW BOOKING, instead come to my toyota subang… We can talk… The drink is on me…
I still can accept if a Mazda sales came.. n trying to promote their Mazda 6.. rather thn Camry with old technology with lack safety features.. The latest Camry model seriously looked like ah Beng car with outdated cheap body kit.
Obviously Toyota salesman should compare their car with Honda, Mazda n Nissan..
Obvious winner among Japanese model is the latest Honda Accord… spend more time worrying how you are losing sales to Honda than VW.
Peace
Wah, all the Toyota salesmen commenting here now. Because they got chased out of their own forum due to Toyota’s unreliability and because so many people died in Toyota, which they are trying to cover up. Losers!
Some really funny post ,haaaaa. Here am an owner of Passat 1.8TSI,CBUYear 2011. Here are the facts:
1.DSG 7Speed Transmission has problems with hot,humid tropical climate and stop and go driving ( Malaysian traffic jams) ,as stated by some comments already that VW has admitted, worldwide.
Jerking on reveres and gear one and possibly gear two,however you enjoy sheer power in torque and in higher speed.
- VW remedy : uses mineral gear box oil instead of synthetic , some adjustment which reduces the power of torque with a minute difference. One will only feel the difference if you own one and had the gearbox fixed.
2/ VW dealers are also to blame (eg. Federal Auto) , as they were taken by surprise with so many complains that their small after sales service centre were unable to coup with it. Thus, their after sakes service sucks.
Right after my first service, my battery went dead in one parking lot. Yes, it is still under warrantee, but “hack” did their mechanics or specialist not checked and noticed that the battery were already weak. Had they change it then during the first service, customers would not have to go through unnecessary annoying and situation of being stuck somewhere in Malaysia and had to call and wait for Mondial tow truck to tow the car ?
3/ many faults followed and the best was that it was noticed by the owner and not their mechanics. Yes , again items were change under warrantee. Surely, if the owners are less knowledgable in identifying faults, eg. Female owners ( sorry ,don t mean to be bias ). the faults could have been undetected and when the problem gets bigger, it would have already passed the warrantee period. Customer to pay for parts and labour.
I am seriously tired of complaining as I only wish to share this bad experience.
My remedy: I sold the car at a lost, of course , but I am free from headaches and I find my precious time being used more productively.
No worry, mineral oil save the day.
The problem of VW is NOT just DSG! Much far beyond DSG! Aircond compressor, radiator fans, center lock electronics module, wiper motors, bearing, and so many thing can be down within 2 years, and WORST –> Repeat again very soon! I have not yet starts with attitude of your Service Advisor (especially Sg Besi), their face like we customer steal their money! Not to mention idiot rule that “only Thursday” can place order for replace parts (even I wish to pay for the parts by myself!).