Reader Nazril sent in these 3 shots of the new Perodua D46T MPV, which apparently is being displayed in near full glory at the Minggu Amanah Saham 2009 in Johor Bahru. Thanks Nazril! Now we can compare these shots with the already revealed shots of the Japanese model so we can see what the differences are.
Quite interestingly these shots show a dashboard that has its dash-mounted shifter very intact – it’s not been moved to the floor! So that’s nice. The dash has a two tone design, dark att the top and beige at the bottom, with some form of integrated audio head unit with steering wheel audio control on the steering wheel.
The front seats are joined together (not the backrests though) as a single bench, and the arm rest in the middle looks like it can be flipped up to become a small backrest for the middle area, unlike the bench seat this part was found in the Passo Sette. No sign of a handbrake so it must be foot-operated!
Of course there are some changes compared to the Japanese unit. The displayed Perodua D46T MPV interior used blue backlighting for its head unit and a blue instrument panel, while the Japanese car uses orange. The head unit design is also very different, but I see a little mic there so there should be a Bluetooth handsfree.
Air conditioning controls have been changed from automatic climate control with an LCD panel to a manual 3-knob version that looks like it shares parts with the Toyota Vios, but this 3-knob control is also found in the low spec versions of the Passo Sette.
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Some shots of the exterior of the car: http://funtastickodesign.wordpress.com/2009/04/20…
If indeed this is the end result of the on-the-road D46T, then I would say that this looks MUCH better than the Exora Interior.
can perodua produce MPVs? i mean, i heard somewhere that perodua signed an agreement said that they can only produce compacts..
wow.. this is nice. when is this launching?
nmpk sngat yg perodua ni gelojoh… bila proton nak kuarkan savvy.. sebok nk kuarkan myvi…bila proton nk kuarkan mpv plak, pun same nk kuarkan mpv… nmpak sangat perodua nie nk nk fight…agaknya klu proton nak kuarkan bajak sawah… pun perodua nie nk keluarkan bajak sawah gak…hahaha…. lu pikir la sendiri
the interior is somewhat impressive…but i dun like the fact that the meter console on the center..
wooh feel like driving estima
Wow… It almost like most of the Japanese compact cars… Front seat can be seated 3 person! (I think is 2 adults + 1 kid)! I like this design! Go Go Perodua!
nice interior…………where is the handbrake?behind brake padel ?
woa….very nice interior…………….but where is the handbrake? behind brake?
the passo sette has got a foot brake.
Still, quite a spartan interior. Even the gearshift knob is a little bit too small from the picture.
There's also a very bulky armrest, and looks like the front seat can be combined to become a bench seat, sacrificing the centre console. The passo sette centre console is basically a flat container that can easily hold two women handbags together. Not sure if the Perodua retains this, judging by the bulky armrest.
Where's the B pillar? Wah like Merc coupes!
nice interior but i hate the a/c control dials..
co-driver no AIRBAG?
I will rather take this to exora…this interior is way neater and looks more luxurious…
alan6113 said,
April 21, 2009 @ 12:25 am · Reply with quote
nice interior…………where is the handbrake?behind brake padel ?
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i guess its beside the brake pedal…so its actually called footbrake…most toyotas use footbrake…
OMG this looks excellent ! i too feel the interior looks so much better than exora but then again i might be wrong. have to see it for real :)
P2 really wanna stop P1 Exora from stealing their pole position, though it translate to 'reducing' thick profit (they currently enjoying l believe).
The winner: rakyat the buyers.
Kudos P1 and P2.
I think it should have 2 air-bags for the high spec 1, unless the picture shown above it the lower spec which normally only 1 air-bag or totally none.
By following Toyota marketing style, i think ABS should be standart now while air-bag at least 1…
Very tempting. The interior looks far better than Exora. more modern and clean design.
Perodua, bring the car up for sale….
its a 3 + 3 seater! lol.
interior is nice!
[quote comment="232286"]nmpk sngat yg perodua ni gelojoh… bila proton nak kuarkan savvy.. sebok nk kuarkan myvi…bila proton nk kuarkan mpv plak, pun same nk kuarkan mpv… nmpak sangat perodua nie nk nk fight…agaknya klu proton nak kuarkan bajak sawah… pun perodua nie nk keluarkan bajak sawah gak…hahaha…. lu pikir la sendiri[/quote]
bodo ke ape ko ni,
ingat buat kete mcm buat kek ke,
jiran siap buat kek, kita siap kek jugak esok tu.
brapa lama kau bawak kete? ke lesen pun belum ada ?
how can the front be a 3 seater if the middle seat doesnt have seatbelt ??
anyway i hate center meter dashboard..can never get use to it
[quote comment="232286"]nmpk sngat yg perodua ni gelojoh… bila proton nak kuarkan savvy.. sebok nk kuarkan myvi…bila proton nk kuarkan mpv plak, pun same nk kuarkan mpv… nmpak sangat perodua nie nk nk fight…agaknya klu proton nak kuarkan bajak sawah… pun perodua nie nk keluarkan bajak sawah gak…hahaha…. lu pikir la sendiri[/quote]
kalau rajin bace buku, kau paham ape maksud bisnes..cmtuh kt msia ade satu je la kedai mkn eh? sbb org lain x leh wat kedai mkn bak kate kau? btul? savvy dan myvi compete pada market yg berlainan ok..kalao nk ckp savvy n viva aku setuju..sile dapatkan info yg betul sebelum berkata2..lu pikir la sendiri.
lagipun,
lagi banyak saing bukan kita pengguna ke untung.
geram betol aku ngan mamat ni..
ckp mcm org bodo
i hope i or someone who is 1.88 m tall can drive it.. muahaha
exora gonna have hard time….hopefully proton gonna modify something…like putting new engine…lol…dont be surprise if this perodua mpv can overtake exora with an ease….can the foot handbrake really cool….proton need to intro that as well…
yeah, im the first one
semangat betul p2 potong bumbung keta nak bagi org tengok interior..macam dah berbulan je gambar interior tu dah ade dlm PT nih. nak tunjuk design stering kot. haha
looking good than proton.. proton look like more plastic daa..
first one
first one, prettier than proton one.
this is looking gd
but whats important is the safety
how is it compare to the proton?
hello people.
why compre exora and p2 mpv? u people no brain ke? proton midsize mpv, p2 pulak mini mpv la bahlol semua!!!!!! go do your homework b4 commenting please….!!!!!
the interiror looks better than exora is due to the colour scheme .
try to look at the exore prestige with dual tone interior as well .
I am really impressed! Congrats Perodua for making some changes to the original MPV. I am waiting eagerly to see what else Perodua will include in the specs.
Paul wrong, Toyota Passo Sette G and G'C' spec version have joined front seats. it look like a little Toyota Wish with 1.5L.
please compare D46T with Toyota Passo Sette to know what p2 will bring to us.
seriously, for a ex-owner of an avanza, i take this anytime over the exora, but then again, its a different league and catogery all together. for those who are really looking for size, exora is still a better buy. for non-family driver like myself, the p2 mpv looks like a much more enticing proposition.
bear in mind, its going to feel very much like an elongated Myvi, even the dash design is exactly the same. just the speedometer is in the center instead. the following items is my observation thats its going to be alot of recycle parts from both p2 and toyota parts bin:
1. dashboard unit
2. a/c dial
3. door handler
4. sidedoor arm rest
5. wing mirror controls
6. a/c blowers
though i have to say i really fancy the new streering design, much butter that the current one.
mpv ni akan sedikit mnjejaskan market EXORA…
kelas yang berbeza…EXORA huge mpv…tis perodua small segment…
hmm….if say compact MPV..then the space 4 interior i can imagine already..confirm 3rd row seat will be a struggle 4 people like me..185cm..
4 sure comfort is not a suitable thing to talk in this perodua mpv….
about the interior color scheme…THIS IS ONLY A PSYCHOLOGY MINDPLAY
FROM PERODUA XTUALLY…cream or beige color will look an interior look
spacious…(konon2nye la)..but then..still be cramped…N EZ 2 GET DIRT
stain!!!
my opinion the pic above show that this is a hi-spec trim… coz its typicall
perodua style that silver and chrome badge at the steering refer to hi-spec
model… 4 sure tht typicall perodua habit n style…
BTW THE POWER ITS IN UR HAND..
but again its not fair to compare this perodua mpv wth PROTON EXORA coz its diffrent class…
hopefully P2 can keep this interior design 100% same until mass prod.
Please do not downgrade anything from this current looks…
Thanks for the correction peroempat.
[quote comment="232286"]nmpk sngat yg perodua ni gelojoh… bila proton nak kuarkan savvy.. sebok nk kuarkan myvi…bila proton nk kuarkan mpv plak, pun same nk kuarkan mpv… nmpak sangat perodua nie nk nk fight…agaknya klu proton nak kuarkan bajak sawah… pun perodua nie nk keluarkan bajak sawah gak…hahaha…. lu pikir la sendiri[/quote]
Don't talk rubbish lah bro. You obviously don't know what business is all about.
[quote comment="232314"][quote comment="232286"]nmpk sngat yg perodua ni gelojoh… bila proton nak kuarkan savvy.. sebok nk kuarkan myvi…bila proton nk kuarkan mpv plak, pun same nk kuarkan mpv… nmpak sangat perodua nie nk nk fight…agaknya klu proton nak kuarkan bajak sawah… pun perodua nie nk keluarkan bajak sawah gak…hahaha…. lu pikir la sendiri[/quote]
bodo ke ape ko ni,
ingat buat kete mcm buat kek ke,
jiran siap buat kek, kita siap kek jugak esok tu.
brapa lama kau bawak kete? ke lesen pun belum ada ?[/quote]
Buang masa jer layan budak bangang tu.
nice interior, plastic dont look too cheap. seat is nice.
Toyota Passo Sette have a foot-operated handbrake called parkingbrake. at the left side from the brake.
please see the user manual, page 107.
http://gazoo.com/nvis/im/torisetu/7311/MB1081_2_2…
[quote comment="232343"]hopefully P2 can keep this interior design 100% same until mass prod.
Please do not downgrade anything from this current looks…[/quote]
i seriously doubt it
[quote comment="232285"]wow.. this is nice. when is this launching?[/quote]
I asked one of the Perodua Salesgirl and she said Perodua will launch the MPV around November.
Gosh the console box just look myvi-ish. But, it's rather interesting to see a Perodua car comes with a sequential shift auto transmission…Ahhhh….Can't wait to see the whole car.
[quote comment="232286"]nmpk sngat yg perodua ni gelojoh… bila proton nak kuarkan savvy.. sebok nk kuarkan myvi…bila proton nk kuarkan mpv plak, pun same nk kuarkan mpv… nmpak sangat perodua nie nk nk fight…agaknya klu proton nak kuarkan bajak sawah… pun perodua nie nk keluarkan bajak sawah gak…hahaha…. lu pikir la sendiri[/quote]
Hi Bro, please clear ur fact before you mumbling around. its Proton should be a shame competing in the small car segment after failing to compete with the Japanase or others. Myvi is set be launch first, suddenly Proton came around with the advertisment "sorok savvy dlm selimut". Fact first brother!
[quote comment="232319"]exora gonna have hard time….hopefully proton gonna modify something…like putting new engine…lol…dont be surprise if this perodua mpv can overtake exora with an ease….can the foot handbrake really cool….proton need to intro that as well…[/quote]
confuse, when time for P1 came with 1.6, then everybody claim for the highest new engine. Hey guy, why don't you asked P2 to put this new MPV with new engine too, 1.5 is too la maaaa…
very double standard mind la.. macam amerika…
Eagerly waiting for the launch. Looks very impresive.
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Just a new replacement for Perodua Rusa..
Paul, can u compare it with Rusa? Any improvement? sure a lot…
We cannot compare it with Exora, not same class..
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mmg la cantik, kete tu toyota yg buat!
perodua takat copy tooling je..ape susah..
tak kenal penat susah bikin kete dari scratch..tapi riak melangit..as if they built the car..ceh
[quote comment="232371"]Eagerly waiting for the launch. Looks very impresive.[/quote]
guys..im just wondering..is this really perodua mpv interior design??or sette interior design??… konfius….if its really perodua interior it looks like ready to be launched soon, it doesnt look like prototype parts…….why still wait??…
hmm….i think exora interior design is far better than this one, more luxury….just my personal opinion… the first pic, looks like toy car interior laa….
Perodua dont have to "develop car" they just need to put another badge and change the bumper a bit…
Its based on the perodua MYVi platform, but then streched to be made longer. So the width is the same as a MYVi. I have looked at the PASSO Sette in JAPAN last month, and the size no where as near the EXORA. Maybe the strong selling point for this car is the Toyota DNA, and thats about it.
[quote comment="232314"][quote comment="232286"]nmpk sngat yg perodua ni gelojoh… bila proton nak kuarkan savvy.. sebok nk kuarkan myvi…bila proton nk kuarkan mpv plak, pun same nk kuarkan mpv… nmpak sangat perodua nie nk nk fight…agaknya klu proton nak kuarkan bajak sawah… pun perodua nie nk keluarkan bajak sawah gak…hahaha…. lu pikir la sendiri[/quote]
bodo ke ape ko ni,
ingat buat kete mcm buat kek ke,
jiran siap buat kek, kita siap kek jugak esok tu.
brapa lama kau bawak kete? ke lesen pun belum ada ?[/quote]
Yang ko nk marah org suka2 hati apesal? Suka hati panggil org lain bodo lah.. Biar la.. tu pendapat dia… Projek Exora kan dh lama org heboh.. mesti la perodua x senang duduk…
Btw.. i like the interior, nampak berkualiti… nice p2
[quote comment="232370"][quote comment="232319"]exora gonna have hard time….hopefully proton gonna modify something…like putting new engine…lol…dont be surprise if this perodua mpv can overtake exora with an ease….can the foot handbrake really cool….proton need to intro that as well…[/quote]
confuse, when time for P1 came with 1.6, then everybody claim for the highest new engine. Hey guy, why don't you asked P2 to put this new MPV with new engine too, 1.5 is too la maaaa…
very double standard mind la.. macam amerika…[/quote]
simple, sbb bukan malaysian yang design engine.
after spending few thousand ringgit converting current car to a darker interior will not be buying anything with light interior color scheme in the near future.
You will see stains everywhere in no time, and the car spends most weekend with steam cleaners. As also after every long journeys
my advice for families with young kids stay away from this type of interior. Unless you're willing to fork out the money for cleaning.
Very tempting. Better looks than exora. But it is in diff league. Avanza most effected.
The selling point of P2 mpv would be the interior and the exterior….. way much nicer than exora…… who cares whether it is slightly smaller, the engine is sufficient to produce enough horsepower and torque if you take into account the size and the weight. Most important thing is the "look" of the vehicle and with reliable parts. Would you drive a bigger vehicle but ugly or a smaller in size but look nice? think about it… i think proton should take this into account before they came out with exora. If exora has the interior and the exterior of P2 new mpv and with 1.6 engine producing 125hp, I think P1 will definitely get better reception from the market share and P2 will have hard time to compete with Proton.
Way to go Perodua…… not owning any P2 and not a P2 fan though. But will take into account of getting one as a second car after seeing the real thing on the road. Pricewise, really attarctive if they can make it below 66K.
Hrmm, i can see a little design problem here.. Shouldn't the bluetooth button be on the driver's side instead of the co-pilot side? …
Blue dials again.. it's a strain to people's eye and it's useless when there's light shining onto it (i saw this bunch of complaint going to P1 when their Saga HUD is blue, this is the reason P1 used orange-white again and so does Passo Sette)
Hahahaha~~
Produa always copy and paste..
rebatching from original principle..
come on produa!!
keep it up.. try something new..
hahaha~~~ rebatching.. owp.. sorri~~
not to 'kondem' but bg semangat..
please process ur product from 'sehelai kertas'.. ngeee~~
1.5 should be enough for this P2.
I've test-drove Exora, 1.6 with 5 people on that day is also enough… but i got the craving for a little more… (because i like tuned-up cars)
ugly 3 dial on dashboard.
centre concole meter again? duhhh…
errr.. no teh tarik hook?
tin milo body?
how do u operate foot handbrake?
something new to me..
kia oso coming up with kia soul this Q3 but giving the full swing of economy crisis later this year..
hmm, we msian r gila keta so sure can SELL!!
YULKS…
Yulks..put beige or cream colour to makes its looks expensive..?? just to hide truth that this mpv is nothing..?? tin milo bergerak?? Whats the crash rating?? Did p2 ever dare to send for crash test?? 1.5??not underpowered?? Like Avanza?? ppl already know dat avanza is sucks, underpower, high fuel consumption..so what this mpv offers?? Nothing!
some Malaysian ppl can easily being fooled…those who just blindl brand supporter?? Sometime those good brand oso produce sucks product….accept that la…pls la..just by looking at centered dashboard, colour of the interior, pedal parking brake n what else?? u ppl praise like this is good mpv compared to exora? Think again my friends….
i don’t c any special from this p2 Mpv…again..nothing!! can beat exora sales?? Only a bunch of fool ppl, blind T supporter will buy this car…
TQ
ahh.. toyota car. they oni change the steering badge to perodua. will you get this car at 66k? dream on! hahahaha..
nice2. hope p2 create a naming contest to this model. just to try my luck again. huhuhu.
[quote comment="232313"]its a 3 + 3 seater! lol.
interior is nice![/quote]
2+1 ; 2+1 i think
My prediction: despite of many shortcomings, especially in seating arrangement, size, beige interior(very much not practical for less than RM300k car~i'd reckon black+light grey interior would be better), an extended Myvi, placticky parts etc this upcoming MPV still will sell pretty well (provided the price RM55k-RM65k) to Myvi buyers (even bachelor one), families with 1-3 kids, and many more who always believe in T-badge.
Though from different segment, this is B-segment whereas Exora C-segment but inevitably will hurt Exora buyers with small number of family members.
The only reason Exora will win over this is SAFETY aspect beside full space for seven. Unless new potent engine like high torque diesel borrowed from renown donor were introduce, EXORA definitely have uphill task. Healthy but hurt.
Look at how manual B-line will face the competition from Myvi + mpv (those who complaint about Myvi's lack of luggage area now got answer~ Myvi cannibalization also one cost P2 should face, l guess).
Hmmm…many of us Malaysian still having the dogma that Perodua is the 2nd national car manufacturer. Indeed it was…was a national car producer but now not anymore. Yet we are still arguing what car they're going to produce to compete with Proton..and even MAA classified their sales figures in national car category and our 'beloved' G never revoke their national car manufacturer status though its clearly stated in Daihatsu global website Perodua is one of their subsidiaries.
Speaking of this new MPV, it wasn't Perodua intention to launch it right after Exora hit the market. Its part of Toyota/Daihatsu global strategy using the Passo platform stretched to create a compact MPV for various markets in the world. R&D of this model has started since MYVI/Passo/Boon went on sale as Toyota/Daihatsu may have selected this model for their global compact MPV strategy based on the succes of co-development of MYVI with Perodua for Malaysia & Japan market. May be Perodua people may answer this and please correct me if I'm wrong.
Then it was proton who beat the clock to develop Exora from scratch within 18 months. Exora was develop & produced for Malaysian by Malaysian while Passo Sette/P2 D46T is a global compact MPV. It may not suit 100% to what every Malaysian wants but being partially localised to suit regional/local needs based on studies made by Perodua engineers and product planners while their management are struggling for tax exemptions, AFTA tariff compliance, locally sourced parts, etc., to put the right pricing in our market. I agree with what DSZ said in his speech during Exora launching, what Malaysian want is Japanese design, European Technology and Malaysian Price!
Not to forget, we rakyat are no longer idiots who judge just by the looks or low down,low interest,easy payment kind of crap that any car maker going to offer. Every single sen counts and we deserve the best from our hard-earned money. Many lessons learned by car manufacturer especially Proton and Korean makes over these years. Delivering cheap product may not sell like goreng pisang panas as people get smarter. That was the mindset during the Industrial Age..we are now in the Information Age..And here we are, debating for products that not even hit the market. That's how people made their judgements nowadays..information is crucial. It is very much beneficial for us consumer when there are competition in the market, product will get better and better…for sales people there are no longer hard sell. We can hardly see car salesman waiting for customer to drop by and book their car straight away. They have to go out to do roadshows, do cold calls, follow-up n follow through to get sales..if they are lucky customer may just come and pay booking..but not because of they just simply want to buy..but some homework has been done or least some product info conveyed to the buyer by friend and families.
We are living in the Information Age…our money..our choice..To car makers..bring us better product you may get your profit. Thank you for reading guys. That's why I love this blog…thank you Paul.
As i mention before, P2 sure will take the dail control as they interior & lots ppl said it nice, looks modern. Hmmmm….. i guess what most T badge supporters said & this is what i expected. Anyway congrat to P2 for newly rebadge Mini MPV that some of P2 support said that P2 have to sell the design to parent just to get cheap mold that cost about 2mill…. Clap.. clap.. clap.. !. P2 selling point after this, Engine 1.5L sure can overtake Exora, light color interior make you feel comfort.
[quote comment="232292"]Wow… It almost like most of the Japanese compact cars… Front seat can be seated 3 person! (I think is 2 adults + 1 kid)! I like this design! Go Go Perodua![/quote]
Front seat can seat others one of kids ? (Van also have this stile ?). 4+2 seat that can cramp 7 passanger. Even so it T DNA, you know maa…. it popular in malaysia, thailand, indonesia & some said in india… :)
I can said that most of T recycle part will be used back for this P2 MPV. Can said it just buiseness strategy that rebadge car can used any part from parent company. Hmmm… so japanese strategy by malaysian way with european impement. Ohhh…. 1 air bag… ok, it ok… since it from T DNA, sure safe but you must wear seatbelt.
[quote comment="232305"]I think it should have 2 air-bags for the high spec 1, unless the picture shown above it the lower spec which normally only 1 air-bag or totally none.
By following Toyota marketing style, i think ABS should be standart now while air-bag at least 1…[/quote]
hmm….. i think some ppl have lick back what they have spitt before… Isofix have or not since the thing have mention in exora before ?, curtian air bag ?, etc….
nice interior.. hope the same quality for the production one.
this is good competition for customer. few suggestions for p1 to stay top in market..
1. once p2 launch this, get one then crash it onto highway divider or ram it to the back of trailer or something. then published the result all over the internet..
2. come out faster with exora se with cps turbo and improve interior.
Good styling, very impressive.this gonna beat Exora straight away. but this is only prototype. actual product will be away differ.if you guys notice, there you dont see any gaps and hole. besides, the dash,steering and overall looks 'kaku' and 'keras'.(maybe becoz this is prototype)
The mpv itself as we know is not spacious as Exora.thus, perodua have to choose right color scheme to inject spacious feelings…for me,the design is very japanese.DASAR PANDANG ke TIMUR meh..
For only RM66K,i must query perodua can price like that.even the RM69.9K Exora doesnt looks like this perodua.and i will start to query rather 1.5L engine can move fully loaded D46T up to genting easily..safety aspect,inteligent effect and driving precision are not perodua concern.you must admit it.
Impressive! They managed to convince the nipponjin to give them the styling they need. most probably this car will be exported to Indonesia, so the volume might justify the required supplier.
Dont forget, as usual the ones you cant see is the real CR (cost reduction) activity for this model. If they really managed to price it below 65K (for the high grade/H-line) then only its a steal.
aiyyah…. forgetlah… this is MYVi XXL with big luggege compartment. After few month, they will have face lift that take from T of D. Wah… verry innovative design that can share each other. Abang tak muat dah baju tu, nanti kasi kat adik yek. Adik boleh pakai lagi baju tu… :)
Even it's Japanese strategy by Malaysian way with European impement.
[quote comment="232282"]If indeed this is the end result of the on-the-road D46T, then I would say that this looks MUCH better than the Exora Interior.[/quote]
I totally agreed with your point of view here.
The dashboard of Exora is way toooooooo~~~~ UGLY, especially the dashboard above the dashboard, which looks like the mould machine for the dashboard spoilt or something, and cannot make it smooth, I'm really quite dissapointed with the interior of the Exora after I watched it in real eye, the interior juz… Lack of Imagination for a young guy like me over its Interior and Exterior design and probally it suits better with Elderly people, but who knows? The Exora is really SUCKS to design a dashboard like this bcoz, u'll always notice ur dashboard once u get into the car and the dashboard colour that used inside the car is aging colour of GREY, I personally hate the Stupid GREY COLOUR that used inside a car (Even the 2008 facelifted Version Myvi also use grey) DON"T EVER USE GREY COLOUR INSIDE A CAR, it'll make u drive a new exterior car but with a OLD COLOUR AND DESIGN that makes ur new car looks as junk as a useless CRAP.
Way to go D46T New Perodua MPV, Don't forget about the SAFETY FEATURES arrhhh~~~~
correction; inteligence
Omg… the interior is very nice if it is without car roof haha damn it would be a malaysian first sport car diff than Neo. I dont know which company P1 or P2 is the first to have the idea to produce MPV? If this is the P2 copy idea of P1… then next time P1 should wait for P2 first to launch their product then only P1 follow them haha. So the final product of P1 would be more attractive.
P2 is just a copy cat la… really copy 90% everything from the original product. If the sale of this car is really heavy affect the sale of Exora, this proof our malaysian buy car the main reason is the LOOK and Design is very important to them not the car space, features and bla bla bla… 'Coz Proton really lack in creative design their car but they offer more high-tech and safety features to attract people compare to P2 cars.
P2 also not right.. we malaysian want a car that really malaysian made. IF everyone of us is drive P2 car is just like driving Japanese car. No diff just that it is cheaper. Hey remember 2020 is our country wawasan year. So far i cant see any product or brand that Malaysian made is popularity spread to the world. Can this 2020 achieve? I don't know.
Very good indeed.. using bright colour scheme will give spacious illussion to the eyes.
P2 is great to use it's advantages to overcome it's weaknesses.
Lack of space but high quality interior for its class.
This MPV is very good for town use, practical for it furthermore with the 1.5 engine…
eager to see it fight with exora although there are diffrent category. but who cares about this? consumer (targeted) only need a car which can carry more than 5 people, a mpv, i think…
[quote comment="232423"][quote comment="232282"]If indeed this is the end result of the on-the-road D46T, then I would say that this looks MUCH better than the Exora Interior.[/quote]
I totally agreed with your point of view here.
The dashboard of Exora is way toooooooo~~~~ UGLY, especially the dashboard above the dashboard, which looks like the mould machine for the dashboard spoilt or something, and cannot make it smooth, I'm really quite dissapointed with the interior of the Exora after I watched it in real eye, the interior juz… Lack of Imagination for a young guy like me over its Interior and Exterior design and probally it suits better with Elderly people, but who knows? The Exora is really SUCKS to design a dashboard like this bcoz, u'll always notice ur dashboard once u get into the car and the dashboard colour that used inside the car is aging colour of GREY, I personally hate the Stupid GREY COLOUR that used inside a car (Even the 2008 facelifted Version Myvi also use grey) DON"T EVER USE GREY COLOUR INSIDE A CAR, it'll make u drive a new exterior car but with a OLD COLOUR AND DESIGN that makes ur new car looks as junk as a useless CRAP.
Way to go D46T New Perodua MPV, Don't forget about the SAFETY FEATURES arrhhh~~~~[/quote]
you r young?.. haiyyaaaa, dont bash exora to much lar.. it not even target to young group like you mehh.. its for your uncles and aunties..
wah…. i do fancy a heater unit in a Malaysian car….
anyway, i can bet the same quality material wont be available for the mass production(altho it would be nice to have it on). Since the one in MSAM look like a clay model, or a show prototype( i judge from the picture, din see it real life and don care)..
if foot operated handbrake is introduce, this would be nice feature to have on for an MPV so that u can sit 2+1(1is kid of course for those who donno what is +2 or +1 means or midget if u may) in the front to maximise an MPV.
As u all know MPV tend to carry lots of ppl but less luggage(except for ssangyong stavic.. where pratical come before design)..
dualtone should be avoided at all cost as u can't afford to put high quality beige colored material in a low spec car… it will be fast to get messy.. but it does make the car look spacios…
as a 1.5l for a 5+2 MPV.. i think it should be adequate to carry it around as for 1.6l for a exora, i think they could do better altho it is adequate also to carry it around and with fully loaded u still can climb genting(not race uphill ofcoz..)
exora and this p2mpv should cater for 2 different segment,
1) i need an MPV to carry around my family and I want to have more feature and i believe that proton has firm up their quality(stop with the power window defect whiny.. totally different mechanism ald being used since savvy and totally different CEO being used since persona ;) ]
2) i need an MPV to carry around my family and I don want to spend much, i had it with proton and I tot MyVI has big boot.
oh i forgot the 3 segment,
3) i trash talk Proton and i adored Toyota but I can't afford to buy a Toyota so I buy a P2 and go to Brothers to transform it to a Toyota.
whatever ur reason is, this is what we called good marketing competition and with Proton already said they target more for export… there's not much competition for P2 and Proton… u can fite for the small cake that is Malaysian market or u can I have some of the cake coz later I want to go out to coffee shop and have some banana fritters with a black coffee(goreng pisang dgn kopi O)…
anything with more than 2 doors is a shit car :D
much rather take the Honda City Coupe if it ever were to exist!
so who's with me!? hahah
kaler mcm taik cicak je korang kate lawa…cheap plastic..mesti cheap tin milo outside jugak
this car gonna be small..exora gonna be big…those who have extra money for d/p can buy exora..not all can think that 'i should pay an extra to get an exora'..even 1k makes a lot differences to some ppl especially poor family with 3-4 children.
i saw already the interior. u all be surprise when you see the actual one.one of my friend is QC executive in perodua told me that for marketing strategy , they will show the great one. which is same like in the catalog. and then after u buy then u realize the material made from… just like my car. MYVI. well in catalog picture look very astonishing , after i got my car, every thing in the car look really cheap, the paddle especially… not really worth..
i hope this mpv will not be the same as avanza. the thinny door layer will jeopardize those who are inside the car. love your family take care your love one.
Ala tak hiran perodua keluarkan model baru pasal model dia boleh dikatakan dah siap.. cuma tukar bumper, tukar radio tukar rim..
Contoh:
Mira = Kancil
Boon = Myvi
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proton hampir 100% buat sendiri.. jadi tak hairan produa lebih berkualiti sebab kereta dah ready dan dah ada dipasaran di negara lain.. tukar body kit je..
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Hidup Produa!
and also.. i hope perodua can also rebadge toyota vios… can or not?
then use Perodua Dugong as their name.. very nice name u know..
ok what, kancil, kelisa, rusa, kenari, dugong…
anyway..what is the name for this passo sette? err..can keep its name as Passo? or Pasolatido?
good job p2…
[quote comment="232429"][quote comment="232423"][quote comment="232282"]If indeed this is the end result of the on-the-road D46T, then I would say that this looks MUCH better than the Exora Interior.[/quote]
I totally agreed with your point of view here.
The dashboard of Exora is way toooooooo~~~~ UGLY, especially the dashboard above the dashboard, which looks like the mould machine for the dashboard spoilt or something, and cannot make it smooth, I'm really quite dissapointed with the interior of the Exora after I watched it in real eye, the interior juz… Lack of Imagination for a young guy like me over its Interior and Exterior design and probally it suits better with Elderly people, but who knows? The Exora is really SUCKS to design a dashboard like this bcoz, u'll always notice ur dashboard once u get into the car and the dashboard colour that used inside the car is aging colour of GREY, I personally hate the Stupid GREY COLOUR that used inside a car (Even the 2008 facelifted Version Myvi also use grey) DON"T EVER USE GREY COLOUR INSIDE A CAR, it'll make u drive a new exterior car but with a OLD COLOUR AND DESIGN that makes ur new car looks as junk as a useless CRAP.
Way to go D46T New Perodua MPV, Don't forget about the SAFETY FEATURES arrhhh~~~~[/quote]
you r young?.. haiyyaaaa, dont bash exora to much lar.. it not even target to young group like you mehh.. its for your uncles and aunties..[/quote]
yAYAYA, i agreed
Notice how thin the 2nd row seat is. dont know how long the thin sponge will last. it will sure get bended overtime..anyways, another option for us malaysian..btw, is it legal in Malaysia for 3 person to sit at the front??i seriously dont know..
[quote comment="232431"]anything with more than 2 doors is a shit car :D
much rather take the Honda City Coupe if it ever were to exist!
so who's with me!? hahah[/quote]
dUDE, THIS IS MPV lar~~ not even a coupe or cabriolet man!
[quote comment="232392"]after spending few thousand ringgit converting current car to a darker interior will not be buying anything with light interior color scheme in the near future.
You will see stains everywhere in no time, and the car spends most weekend with steam cleaners. As also after every long journeys
my advice for families with young kids stay away from this type of interior. Unless you're willing to fork out the money for cleaning.[/quote]
Agreed….i did spend some money too…just to make my car interrior darker..
i like the light-colored interior, but that of course a dirt-magnet.
it would be nice if the premium comes with an auto-cruise.
pls Perodua, provide sufficient active&pasive safety feature :)
nice one p2. off topic, the reason exora has a dark color interior is because the consumers always comment on light color in proton cars (savvy,gen2 and waja), so to cater the needs of consumer, proton put a dark color, then still get bashing. proton did show that exora can come in light color and the black one in exora prime and prestige concept. the material is still the same but the color make it different. its hard to satisfy everyone. when use light end beige color, kena bash, use dark color pun kena bash. it is how malaysian perception toward proton. is not that proton cannot use plastic without any textures, but the testures will give more perceive quality compare a bare one and it is a little bit expensive compare to a plain one. when proton use plain plastic, u complain, when proton use texture, u also complain. typical malaysian. hard to please. anyway, kudos to perodua, lets the game begin………………….adios
again here i wanna compare our new 1st M'sia MPV (Exora) and P2 to be appear D46T MPV. so i think its depends on our point of view, for me (my own eyes) the dashboard design for both MPVs are fine, P1 and P2 done a good job on designing all the button, radio, aircond,and all those stuff. why we comparing the design? every car company hv their own reasons why they did their interior or exterior, if all the company do the same design, semua kete kat dunia ni sepesen je la.. so now i think the thing that we can compare is the price per space.. is it worth it we buy D46T with the tag price of 66K for quit small MPV or we pay 70K for a bit bigger space for Exora?? so its time to think, ur money ur choice.. so jangan gaduh2, sape suke P1 beli exora, sape suke P2 g beli D46T, abis cite.. i hete to read those comments yg sarcastic commenting abt P1 and P2.. happy motoring
[quote comment="232453"]nice one p2. off topic, the reason exora has a dark color interior is because the consumers always comment on light color in proton cars (savvy,gen2 and waja), so to cater the needs of consumer, proton put a dark color, then still get bashing. proton did show that exora can come in light color and the black one in exora prime and prestige concept. the material is still the same but the color make it different. its hard to satisfy everyone. when use light end beige color, kena bash, use dark color pun kena bash. it is how malaysian perception toward proton. is not that proton cannot use plastic without any textures, but the testures will give more perceive quality compare a bare one and it is a little bit expensive compare to a plain one. when proton use plain plastic, u complain, when proton use texture, u also complain. typical malaysian. hard to please. anyway, kudos to perodua, lets the game begin………………….adios[/quote]
agreed!!! "typical malaysian. hard to please"
This make exora looks totally outdated & its cake would be getting smaller
slice once this mpv launched. Its suppose to b a compact mpv so d lack of
space is expected & if really necessary u can sit 8 ppl-3+3+2 but it'll b
illegal, heck even kancil can sit 6 ppl. Where power to weight ratio concern
if it weigh around 1200kg with 109hp it might b on par with exora speed.
If d outlook is same as shown in lcd screen then it would defenatly win most
younger or young at heart ones. Just like wish most of them r young ppl
unmarried & its good to hv d extra space eventough u dont need it.
Those lovebirds would truely love those front seats if u know what i mean.
Now that exora is out of d box this mpv would b d next big thing comming.
Looking forward for those spyshot soon i hope.
Based on the lowest price Sette in Japan equivalent to RM52k then the target pricing of RM55k was a deal for potential Myvi-buyers. Considering 1.3 Passo give return 18kml using Japanese 10.15 mode (though many complaint real life Myvi not that economical to run as Vios) then Sette really a bargain. The highest variant of Myvi merely Y1.3m, whereas the lowest price Sette Y1.42m. I really salute P2 if they still give us 1.5 engine but with RM55k. Or 1.3 will throw to the lowest price Myvi Sette?
1.3L K3-VE VVT-i*4??4??DOHC
????? 1.297L
?????????? 68kW?92PS?/6,000r.p.m.
??????????? 123N?m?12.5kg?m?/4,400r.p.m..
10?15??????????
??????????*5? 18.0km/L?2WD?? c.940kg
Sette specs:
????? 1.495L
?????NET?? 80kW?109PS?/6,000r.p.m.
??????NET?? 141N?m?14.4kgf?m?/4,400r.p.m.
10?15???????
?????????? 15.6km/L?2WD?? c.1170-1190kg
1422-1190=232kg less heavier than Exora seems OK for small families and Exora must have another "last bullet" to prevent potential buyer flux to P2. Imagine even bachelor can be Sette prospect as they look more toward Jazz than people carrier like Avanza, Livina etc as it shorter rear hangover.
Now, Proton must able to convince AVanza, Unser, vannette owners to upgrade to their MPV or otherwise loose significantly to Sette (not to the degree of Savvy vs MyVi of course).
Jadi aku mulakan proses penamaannya iaitu..PeroduGong/ Pero2Gong…amcam ok x? hehehehe….
wah…the interior looks nice
better than exora..haih..habis la proton..
thanks mr.paul..credit to prodas too for the pic..the centre console look nice..design is more japanese oriented…in terms of space exora is more spacious…so now we get two different mpv with differrent segment…the choice is yours..
Wait a minute, do i see a '+' sign beside d gear knob?
Does it mean there b a semi auto or its just for deco only…
btw, based on the passo sette brochure from previous post..the pics showed a lot of chickas and men(who looked like a chic) driving this MPV…is its target market for women only in Japan?it sure look like a girly MPV imho…
compact MPV…..not EXORA real "competitor"…but if they think about the price n not the space….probbly this is the choice……i can see malaysian road willl be fulll of "VAN" as the new trend….in near future….
[quote comment="232415"]
The only reason Exora will win over this is SAFETY aspect beside full space for seven. Unless new potent engine like high torque diesel borrowed from renown donor were introduce, EXORA definitely have uphill task. Healthy but hurt.[/quote]
SAFETY? Why don't we wait for EURO NCAP run a full test on Exora. Then we can clain it is safe. The same goes to this Perodua/Daihatsu/Toyota new Mini MPV.
[quote comment="232415"]
1422-1190=232kg less heavier than Exora seems OK for small families and Exora must have another "last bullet" to prevent potential buyer flux to P2. Imagine even bachelor can be Sette prospect as they look more toward Jazz than people carrier like Avanza, Livina etc as it shorter rear hangover.
Now, Proton must able to convince AVanza, Unser, vannette owners to upgrade to their MPV or otherwise loose significantly to Sette (not to the degree of Savvy vs MyVi of course).[/quote]
Toyota Passo Sette: 1190KG is for full spec (including 6 airbags) where I believe Perodua's version of this MPV will weigh less than this 1190KG. While Proton Exora full Spec H-Line is 1442KG (not as you mentioned).
Please DO NOT compare the lightest Exora tu the HEAVIEST Passo Sette (full specs with 6 airbags). Don;t try to mislead people!
[quote comment="232420"]
For only RM66K,i must query perodua can price like that.even the RM69.9K Exora doesnt looks like this perodua.and i will start to query rather 1.5L engine can move fully loaded D46T up to genting easily..safety aspect,inteligent effect and driving precision are not perodua concern.you must admit it.[/quote]
Have you ever heard economy of scale?
[quote comment="232467"]Wait a minute, do i see a '+' sign beside d gear knob?
Does it mean there b a semi auto or its just for deco only…[/quote]
Ever heard of Auto Tranny with manual override? Essentially, it is still an auto box.
Look's like the Exora steering has a little tweaking and debadged to perodua's own. See it?
[quote comment="232323"]looking good than proton.. proton look like more plastic daa..[/quote]
funny, this is not a production unit.. how u know the dashboard texture is look better than Proton Exora just referring to pics only ?
[quote comment="232322"]semangat betul p2 potong bumbung keta nak bagi org tengok interior..macam dah berbulan je gambar interior tu dah ade dlm PT nih. nak tunjuk design stering kot. haha[/quote]
Apa tujuan sebenarnya? kalo nak tunjuk interior, xyah potong bumbung pun xkisah, cukup je dgn ketiadaan pintu utk melihat rupa dalaman.. kalo xder bumbung, org tgk kat ruang dalaman secara langsung akan terasa luas.. faktor kecerahan warna interior jugak penyumbang kepada rasa keluasan tersebut.. kalo dak duduk 7 org kat dlm baru tahu luas ke x hahaha… aku prefer Exora.. duit aku sukahati akulah…
+ – also can be Tiptronic gear box.
Tiptronic gear box is almost the same as Auto gearbox but have the fun to change gear using the + – functions. Play that 1st in the hyundai sonata.. really fun to play with..
but still some auto gearbox are not tiptronic. If i not mistaken tiptronic gearbox is different auto gear box which is patented by porsche…
This car will in future, be call the "PROTON KILLER"!!!
Hahaha.
Man, how many times told you on this blog already………Proton forever be losing out to "smaller bro" P2. How humiliate. Hehe.
[quote comment="232286"]nmpk sngat yg perodua ni gelojoh… bila proton nak kuarkan savvy.. sebok nk kuarkan myvi…bila proton nk kuarkan mpv plak, pun same nk kuarkan mpv… nmpak sangat perodua nie nk nk fight…agaknya klu proton nak kuarkan bajak sawah… pun perodua nie nk keluarkan bajak sawah gak…hahaha…. lu pikir la sendiri[/quote]
SI BANGANG kampung manalah mamat ni. Woi lebih baik hang baca buku dan study nak ambil UPSR tahun ni!
so exora has the safety feature, d46t has the looks.
[quote comment="232335"]hello people.
why compre exora and p2 mpv? u people no brain ke? proton midsize mpv, p2 pulak mini mpv la bahlol semua!!!!!! go do your homework b4 commenting please….!!!!![/quote]
LOL. Are you even Malaysian? Or for sure must be Potong worker…..
Malaysian compare car base on makes and price range, not so much on size like in the West thanks to G tax structure. Thats why Honday City/Vios directly competing with Waja-type market even though actually, both also different range.
P2 Proton Killer definitely will be competing wif (and beating) the Exora. Thats the fact.
Tunggu Exora facelift 2010-2011 dgn enjin CamPro CPS 1.6 turbo nanti.. masih x org malaysia dgn persepsi "underpower"?
[quote comment="232483"][quote comment="232323"]looking good than proton.. proton look like more plastic daa..[/quote]
funny, this is not a production unit.. how u know the dashboard texture is look better than Proton Exora just referring to pics only ?[/quote]
Agree with you. For the quality of dashboard texture, better wait for production unit.
the fact is many malaysian prefer milo tin only
[quote comment="232475"][quote comment="232415"]
1422-1190=232kg less heavier than Exora seems OK for small families and Exora must have another "last bullet" to prevent potential buyer flux to P2. Imagine even bachelor can be Sette prospect as they look more toward Jazz than people carrier like Avanza, Livina etc as it shorter rear hangover.
Now, Proton must able to convince AVanza, Unser, vannette owners to upgrade to their MPV or otherwise loose significantly to Sette (not to the degree of Savvy vs MyVi of course).[/quote]
Toyota Passo Sette: 1190KG is for full spec (including 6 airbags) where I believe Perodua's version of this MPV will weigh less than this 1190KG. While Proton Exora full Spec H-Line is 1442KG (not as you mentioned).
Please DO NOT compare the lightest Exora tu the HEAVIEST Passo Sette (full specs with 6 airbags). Don;t try to mislead people![/quote]
I've no interest to misled BUT merely quoting from the source- normally they take one version. According to JDM spec sheect, Sette range from 1170-1190, so it's fair for me to take only one. You're problem if you feel cheated.
The cheapest new Wish Mk II merely 1,752,381.00 JPY=64,506.03 MYR with published FC of 16km/l even outperformed Sette at 15.6km/l! Imagine if P2 take this model as opponent to Exora.
Wish 1.8 Mk II has 176N?m[17.9kgf?m]/4,400r.p.m.(2ZR-FAE 2WD) cheaper than Sette 1.5 S package Modellista trims at 1,776,190? (1,776,190.00 JPY=65,340.77 MYR).
Then, P2 really regard as Toyota with new moniker; added from existing Toyota, Lexus, Scion, Daihatsu and Hino.
[quote comment="232505"][quote comment="232475"][quote comment="232415"]
1422-1190=232kg less heavier than Exora seems OK for small families and Exora must have another "last bullet" to prevent potential buyer flux to P2. Imagine even bachelor can be Sette prospect as they look more toward Jazz than people carrier like Avanza, Livina etc as it shorter rear hangover.
Now, Proton must able to convince AVanza, Unser, vannette owners to upgrade to their MPV or otherwise loose significantly to Sette (not to the degree of Savvy vs MyVi of course).[/quote]
Toyota Passo Sette: 1190KG is for full spec (including 6 airbags) where I believe Perodua's version of this MPV will weigh less than this 1190KG. While Proton Exora full Spec H-Line is 1442KG (not as you mentioned).
Please DO NOT compare the lightest Exora tu the HEAVIEST Passo Sette (full specs with 6 airbags). Don;t try to mislead people![/quote]
I've no interest to misled BUT merely quoting from the source- normally they take one version. According to JDM spec sheect, Sette range from 1170-1190, so it's fair for me to take only one. You're problem if you feel cheated.[/quote]
The fishy thing is. You pick the heaviest weight from the Sette range and the lightest weight from the Exora range and do the comparison. Haven't you noticed that? If you are going to pick the highest weight range, then pick the highest weight for both. So who try to mislead now?
[quote comment="232510"]The cheapest new Wish Mk II merely 1,752,381.00 JPY=64,506.03 MYR with published FC of 16km/l even outperformed Sette at 15.6km/l! Imagine if P2 take this model as opponent to Exora.
Wish 1.8 Mk II has 176N?m[17.9kgf?m]/4,400r.p.m.(2ZR-FAE 2WD) cheaper than Sette 1.5 S package Modellista trims at 1,776,190? (1,776,190.00 JPY=65,340.77 MYR).
Then, P2 really regard as Toyota with new moniker; added from existing Toyota, Lexus, Scion, Daihatsu and Hino.[/quote]
P2 would normally take Daihatsu's model.
Why do you guys even bother praising perodua for thier 'efforts'.
Its just a cut-and-paste job from daihatsu. In fact, all their cars are re badged. Unlike Exora who has been developed in-house. Wait.. maybe you guys are praising them cause they developed the bumper and lights…and also the fabric they use for the interior…
If so, you guys should also praise Naza because they 'made' Naza Bestari, Naza Citra, Naza Suria.. etc.
actually proton n perodua mmg byk beze..x kire la kete pe pn yg dieorg wat
if u look for interior maybe byk yg leh compare or modified
but..proton have their RND..so dierang amik mase yg lame tok develop kete dieorg..tp perodua byk dpt idea dr toyota…so that mybe diergnye design more stylish..pape pon proton is no 1 automotive m'sia n perodua 2nd…thats y name die proton n perodua..yg advance mybe proton coz ade gak msuk dlm top gear show..hahaa..anywy peace (1_1)v
Nice interior. Wait and see the final product.
Anyway, if it is a footed handbrake, it'll be the same technology as the Honda Stream RSZ, coz the RSZ is also using footed handbrake.
WOW, seems new but how to use a?
WAHHHHH!!! SUPERB! Nice interior finishing compare to EXORA, i think this new P2 interior much much much more better that Exora! Congrat Perodua!! Cant wait to see it!
wa….comments passed 100 #
can turn it to brain-storming session, hope P2 can take some constructive comments here….
[quote comment="232513"]Why do you guys even bother praising perodua for thier 'efforts'.
Its just a cut-and-paste job from daihatsu. In fact, all their cars are re badged. Unlike Exora who has been developed in-house. Wait.. maybe you guys are praising them cause they developed the bumper and lights…and also the fabric they use for the interior…
If so, you guys should also praise Naza because they 'made' Naza Bestari, Naza Citra, Naza Suria.. etc.[/quote]
Can you tell me which one is more important (this applicable to both P1 and P2):
1) More value for your hard earned money.
2) Developed in-house.
If the "developed in-house" (I don't care if its from P1 or P2) model is at the same time give "more value for money", then it is the best choice. Otherwise I will go for "more value for money".
[quote comment="232497"][quote comment="232335"]hello people.
why compre exora and p2 mpv? u people no brain ke? proton midsize mpv, p2 pulak mini mpv la bahlol semua!!!!!! go do your homework b4 commenting please….!!!!![/quote]
LOL. Are you even Malaysian? Or for sure must be Potong worker…..
Malaysian compare car base on makes and price range, not so much on size like in the West thanks to G tax structure. Thats why Honday City/Vios directly competing with Waja-type market even though actually, both also different range.
P2 Proton Killer definitely will be competing wif (and beating) the Exora. Thats the fact.[/quote]
yah… that what ppl like CEO wanabe talk. Nothing to impress me by P2 since it only do fotocopy & rebadge. Only Assamble & Rebadge. Not Production & Manifacturing. And for last time, U just go work at Langkawi and buy the Red Stallion since there are more cheaper compare to Mainland. Aku orang utara, Pernah kerja kat Langkawi selama 4 bulan selepas SPM. Ada ramai kawan kat langkawi. Tahun lepas pergi bercuti ngan wife kat sana. Kualiti kereta import kat sana masih sama macam 15 tahun dulu. Jangan Banggakan dengan kereta import kerana kita x tahu apa yang kita dapat kat sini. Bersyukur dengan apa yang dapat. Sekurangnya duit hasil penjualan Proton masih berlegar dalam negara. Cuba fikir dengan fikiran terbuka, jangan serkup otak tu dengan pekara remeh tak masuk akal. Kenapa T badge banyak kat Thai & Indon, tu pun sama banyak kroni protect T malah lagi teruk korupsi. At least Proton have give hard time for untouchable vendor since some of them give low spac have been terminate. New era for Proto have came to explore more for the world. (Anak Malaysia macam tu gak, kurang muhasabah sendiri, nak jadi macam jepun tapi tetap suka tikam dari belakang). ;)
like it or not….the interior is much more decent than exora…. But just wait until we see this P2 MPV at the showroom. Maybe P2 is defeated by size..
[quote comment="232516"]Anyway, if it is a footed handbrake, it'll be the same technology as the Honda Stream RSZ, coz the RSZ is also using footed handbrake.
WOW, seems new but how to use a?[/quote]
Senan je bai…. Tekan sampai habis sekali untuk lock brake. Tekan sekali & lepas untuk lepas brake. senang ?. Jangan salah ingat tu clacth paddle plak. Kang memusing plak…. :)
[quote comment="232519"][quote comment="232513"]Why do you guys even bother praising perodua for thier 'efforts'.
Its just a cut-and-paste job from daihatsu. In fact, all their cars are re badged. Unlike Exora who has been developed in-house. Wait.. maybe you guys are praising them cause they developed the bumper and lights…and also the fabric they use for the interior…
If so, you guys should also praise Naza because they 'made' Naza Bestari, Naza Citra, Naza Suria.. etc.[/quote]
Can you tell me which one is more important (this applicable to both P1 and P2):
1) More value for your hard earned money.
2) Developed in-house.
If the "developed in-house" (I don't care if its from P1 or P2) model is at the same time give "more value for money", then it is the best choice. Otherwise I will go for "more value for money".[/quote]
For me it Develop in house & Value for my money since the money still stimulate around the country to help stabilize our economy. "Buy Malaysian Brand".
this is actually very good. but i think perodua should keep the orange light hues which suits the car better.
[quote comment="232519"][quote comment="232513"]Why do you guys even bother praising perodua for thier 'efforts'.
Its just a cut-and-paste job from daihatsu. In fact, all their cars are re badged. Unlike Exora who has been developed in-house. Wait.. maybe you guys are praising them cause they developed the bumper and lights…and also the fabric they use for the interior…
If so, you guys should also praise Naza because they 'made' Naza Bestari, Naza Citra, Naza Suria.. etc.[/quote]
Can you tell me which one is more important (this applicable to both P1 and P2):
1) More value for your hard earned money.
2) Developed in-house.
If the "developed in-house" (I don't care if its from P1 or P2) model is at the same time give "more value for money", then it is the best choice. Otherwise I will go for "more value for money".[/quote]
For me, Proton is more value for money. Honestly speaking..
Look at Kelisa.. when it was launched it was what.. 45k?
I could get a Gen2 for not much more. (im not driving either brands at the moment BTW. Used to own 2 local cars previously)
stupid van, damn ugly
[quote comment="232513"]Why do you guys even bother praising perodua for thier 'efforts'.
Its just a cut-and-paste job from daihatsu. In fact, all their cars are re badged. Unlike Exora who has been developed in-house. Wait.. maybe you guys are praising them cause they developed the bumper and lights…and also the fabric they use for the interior…
If so, you guys should also praise Naza because they 'made' Naza Bestari, Naza Citra, Naza Suria.. etc.[/quote]
We are just sick off seeing Proton on Malaysia road. We want to drive Japaneses car. This is what Perodua is giving us.
Who care how much effort or who have contribute their effort in Proton to "give" us Exora. We want to have more choice.
I will always remember the first Iswara I bought…colour option for Metallic..2!!!!! Metallic Grey or Green. That's how arrogant Proton will be if we let them monopoly our market!!!
This is a fact & nobody can deny it.
[quote comment="232526"][quote comment="232519"][quote comment="232513"]Why do you guys even bother praising perodua for thier 'efforts'.
Its just a cut-and-paste job from daihatsu. In fact, all their cars are re badged. Unlike Exora who has been developed in-house. Wait.. maybe you guys are praising them cause they developed the bumper and lights…and also the fabric they use for the interior…
If so, you guys should also praise Naza because they 'made' Naza Bestari, Naza Citra, Naza Suria.. etc.[/quote]
Can you tell me which one is more important (this applicable to both P1 and P2):
1) More value for your hard earned money.
2) Developed in-house.
If the "developed in-house" (I don't care if its from P1 or P2) model is at the same time give "more value for money", then it is the best choice. Otherwise I will go for "more value for money".[/quote]
For me it Develop in house & Value for my money since the money still stimulate around the country to help stabilize our economy. "Buy Malaysian Brand".[/quote]
Of course it is the best to have both criteria (I have explained that). But as I mentioned earlier, if you can only pick one. Which one will it be.
SImple BRO!!
JUST COMPARE BETWEEN EXORA AND SETTE..
EXORA : BEST FOR LONG JOURNEY, BALIK KAMPUNG, CONFIDENT TO CRUISE HIGHWAY AND TAKE SHARP CORNER (HANDLING LIKE NEO)
(I ALREADY TEST DRIVE)
SETTLE: GOOD INTERIOR (I HOPE SO), NOT SO GOOD FOR LONG JOURNEY (MOSTLY LIKE AVANZA), (BILA RINGAN, ABSORBER PUN KERAS SEMACAM, SAKIT PUNGGUNG WOO).. SUITABLE FOR SHORT DISTANCE (HANTAR ANAK2 PERGI SEKOLAH)..
SO? STILL WANT TO COMPLAIN? HUH…
[quote comment="232532"][quote comment="232519"][quote comment="232513"]Why do you guys even bother praising perodua for thier 'efforts'.
Its just a cut-and-paste job from daihatsu. In fact, all their cars are re badged. Unlike Exora who has been developed in-house. Wait.. maybe you guys are praising them cause they developed the bumper and lights…and also the fabric they use for the interior…
If so, you guys should also praise Naza because they 'made' Naza Bestari, Naza Citra, Naza Suria.. etc.[/quote]
Can you tell me which one is more important (this applicable to both P1 and P2):
1) More value for your hard earned money.
2) Developed in-house.
If the "developed in-house" (I don't care if its from P1 or P2) model is at the same time give "more value for money", then it is the best choice. Otherwise I will go for "more value for money".[/quote]
For me, Proton is more value for money. Honestly speaking..
Look at Kelisa.. when it was launched it was what.. 45k?
I could get a Gen2 for not much more. (im not driving either brands at the moment BTW. Used to own 2 local cars previously)[/quote]
As I mentioned to the other guy here:
Of course it is the best to have both criteria (I have explained that). But as I mentioned earlier, if you can only pick one. Which one will it be.
erm….. nape gaduh2 nie…sumer nk emo… senang cam nie la… JELAS & NYATA…sape yg komen PERODUA lebih2 tu adalah pekerja PROTON, n saper yg komen PROTON lebih2 gak tu orang tur orang PERODUA. kos x leh nk bg komen yg pedas skit dh melenting. memasing nk menang. kita ni rakyat malaysia yg terkenal ngan BUDI PEKERTI. so tak leh ker memasing beralah. memasing ada kelebihan dan kekurangan. NO BODY IS PERFECT. YANG PENTING sekarang nie adalah kita rakyat MALAYSIA.x payah gaduh2.kita makan belacan gak, budu pun yer…
nice interior, simple. senang jer…tunggu dan lihat cam MPV EXORA. dah kuar nnti baru tahu kelebihan n kekurangan…baru KOMEN…
[quote comment="232538"][quote comment="232532"][quote comment="232519"][quote comment="232513"]Why do you guys even bother praising perodua for thier 'efforts'.
Its just a cut-and-paste job from daihatsu. In fact, all their cars are re badged. Unlike Exora who has been developed in-house. Wait.. maybe you guys are praising them cause they developed the bumper and lights…and also the fabric they use for the interior…
If so, you guys should also praise Naza because they 'made' Naza Bestari, Naza Citra, Naza Suria.. etc.[/quote]
Can you tell me which one is more important (this applicable to both P1 and P2):
1) More value for your hard earned money.
2) Developed in-house.
If the "developed in-house" (I don't care if its from P1 or P2) model is at the same time give "more value for money", then it is the best choice. Otherwise I will go for "more value for money".[/quote]
For me, Proton is more value for money. Honestly speaking..
Look at Kelisa.. when it was launched it was what.. 45k?
I could get a Gen2 for not much more. (im not driving either brands at the moment BTW. Used to own 2 local cars previously)[/quote]
As I mentioned to the other guy here:
Of course it is the best to have both criteria (I have explained that). But as I mentioned earlier, if you can only pick one. Which one will it be.[/quote]
I would pick a proton.
Reason would be… Better handling, Bigger car, Bigger boot space, Efficient aircond.
[quote comment="232522"][quote comment="232497"][quote comment="232335"]hello people.
why compre exora and p2 mpv? u people no brain ke? proton midsize mpv, p2 pulak mini mpv la bahlol semua!!!!!! go do your homework b4 commenting please….!!!!![/quote]
LOL. Are you even Malaysian? Or for sure must be Potong worker…..
Malaysian compare car base on makes and price range, not so much on size like in the West thanks to G tax structure. Thats why Honday City/Vios directly competing with Waja-type market even though actually, both also different range.
P2 Proton Killer definitely will be competing wif (and beating) the Exora. Thats the fact.[/quote]
yah… that what ppl like CEO wanabe talk. Nothing to impress me by P2 since it only do fotocopy & rebadge. Only Assamble & Rebadge. Not Production & Manifacturing. And for last time, U just go work at Langkawi and buy the Red Stallion since there are more cheaper compare to Mainland. Aku orang utara, Pernah kerja kat Langkawi selama 4 bulan selepas SPM. Ada ramai kawan kat langkawi. Tahun lepas pergi bercuti ngan wife kat sana. Kualiti kereta import kat sana masih sama macam 15 tahun dulu. Jangan Banggakan dengan kereta import kerana kita x tahu apa yang kita dapat kat sini. Bersyukur dengan apa yang dapat. Sekurangnya duit hasil penjualan Proton masih berlegar dalam negara. Cuba fikir dengan fikiran terbuka, jangan serkup otak tu dengan pekara remeh tak masuk akal. Kenapa T badge banyak kat Thai & Indon, tu pun sama banyak kroni protect T malah lagi teruk korupsi. At least Proton have give hard time for untouchable vendor since some of them give low spac have been terminate. New era for Proto have came to explore more for the world. (Anak Malaysia macam tu gak, kurang muhasabah sendiri, nak jadi macam jepun tapi tetap suka tikam dari belakang). ;)[/quote]
Proton also source from oversea. Remember, your beloved Lotus is in UK (salary paid in pound sterling ohh) so your ringgit is leaking out while u didn't notice. Lotus have been making losses year after year.
They are many more ringgit fallen into undeserve "middle man". Our normal rakyat won't know or see who they are.
As a consumer, we want more choice, more quality & spec. More value for our hard earn money. We don't want to pay stupid tax for oversea car (that's why P2, Naza, Inokom etc is welcome by the rakyat)
Just a simple question for u, how many engine CC choice do u got from Exora?? Oh no, ONLY SATU….. AGAIN. Diesel engine? (better don't ask)
How long have Gen2 & it's many aethetic ungrade hv been in the market? When is the Gen2 replacement coming? 5yrs more??
Haiyaaa… makin lama aku baca blog paul tan ni.. makin aku rasa macam tempat salesman p1 & p2 bergaduh jelahh hahahaha
[quote comment="232542"][quote comment="232538"][quote comment="232532"][quote comment="232519"][quote comment="232513"]Why do you guys even bother praising perodua for thier 'efforts'.
Its just a cut-and-paste job from daihatsu. In fact, all their cars are re badged. Unlike Exora who has been developed in-house. Wait.. maybe you guys are praising them cause they developed the bumper and lights…and also the fabric they use for the interior…
If so, you guys should also praise Naza because they 'made' Naza Bestari, Naza Citra, Naza Suria.. etc.[/quote]
Can you tell me which one is more important (this applicable to both P1 and P2):
1) More value for your hard earned money.
2) Developed in-house.
If the "developed in-house" (I don't care if its from P1 or P2) model is at the same time give "more value for money", then it is the best choice. Otherwise I will go for "more value for money".[/quote]
For me, Proton is more value for money. Honestly speaking..
Look at Kelisa.. when it was launched it was what.. 45k?
I could get a Gen2 for not much more. (im not driving either brands at the moment BTW. Used to own 2 local cars previously)[/quote]
As I mentioned to the other guy here:
Of course it is the best to have both criteria (I have explained that). But as I mentioned earlier, if you can only pick one. Which one will it be.[/quote]
I would pick a proton.
Reason would be… Better handling, Bigger car, Bigger boot space, Efficient aircond.[/quote]
I have gave you option 1 and option 2 and yes you still try to pusing-pusing eh? Good for you, have a nice day.
no point giving ideas to P2, since the car is already there, and I'm sure UMW/Daihatsu will filter everything before implementing to the cars (since they're the bos). P2 engineers will just bend down, and say "Hait Bos..MPV arigatou! Let's rebadge!, and raise the price! bonus 6 months guaranteed!!"
The only thing that we can comment are, Front & Rear bumpers.. :D
coz thats the only area our P2 R&D can develop for this MPV..
Horray for National Car! (of Japan)
Ahh terhiburnya baca komen2 korang. Terlepas rindu aku kat tanah air ku tercinta Malaysia.
Exora is still more value for money…just my 2 cents ;-)
Nice interior from the pics. Wait till the production version come out in a few month. May be before Hari Raya (1st or 2nd week of the month).
Salam..
[quote comment="232524"][quote comment="232516"]Anyway, if it is a footed handbrake, it'll be the same technology as the Honda Stream RSZ, coz the RSZ is also using footed handbrake.
WOW, seems new but how to use a?[/quote]
Senan je bai…. Tekan sampai habis sekali untuk lock brake. Tekan sekali & lepas untuk lepas brake. senang ?. Jangan salah ingat tu clacth paddle plak. Kang memusing plak…. :)[/quote]
tak penah pakai footed handbrake… gonna take some time to familiarize… huhu…
nice interior…but exterior is viva je la…hmmm…..perodua has hit the panic button…
hahah…like i said before Exora interior is so bland…. n for a MPV less than 66k…the perodua's interior is AWESOME.
[quote comment="232548"][quote comment="232542"][quote comment="232538"][quote comment="232532"][quote comment="232519"][quote comment="232513"]Why do you guys even bother praising perodua for thier 'efforts'.
Its just a cut-and-paste job from daihatsu. In fact, all their cars are re badged. Unlike Exora who has been developed in-house. Wait.. maybe you guys are praising them cause they developed the bumper and lights…and also the fabric they use for the interior…
If so, you guys should also praise Naza because they 'made' Naza Bestari, Naza Citra, Naza Suria.. etc.[/quote]
Can you tell me which one is more important (this applicable to both P1 and P2):
1) More value for your hard earned money.
2) Developed in-house.
If the "developed in-house" (I don't care if its from P1 or P2) model is at the same time give "more value for money", then it is the best choice. Otherwise I will go for "more value for money".[/quote]
For me, Proton is more value for money. Honestly speaking..
Look at Kelisa.. when it was launched it was what.. 45k?
I could get a Gen2 for not much more. (im not driving either brands at the moment BTW. Used to own 2 local cars previously)[/quote]
As I mentioned to the other guy here:
Of course it is the best to have both criteria (I have explained that). But as I mentioned earlier, if you can only pick one. Which one will it be.[/quote]
I would pick a proton.
Reason would be… Better handling, Bigger car, Bigger boot space, Efficient aircond.[/quote]
I have gave you option 1 and option 2 and yes you still try to pusing-pusing eh? Good for you, have a nice day.[/quote]
you think this tiny mpv is value for money? up to you….but p2 cars have never been of any value to me…look at tiny viva selling ay 45k. my goodness…i can get a persona at that price.
you see the value there because u perceive of this as a jap car. p2 has already been part to toyota in many ppls's mind.
if i slap a chery badge to this car i wait and see what you say about it.
[quote comment="232567"]
you think this tiny mpv is value for money? up to you….but p2 cars have never been of any value to me…look at tiny viva selling ay 45k. my goodness…i can get a persona at that price.
you see the value there because u perceive of this as a jap car. p2 has already been part to toyota in many ppls's mind.
if i slap a chery badge to this car i wait and see what you say about it.[/quote]
Agree with you. And I personally think that Viva is the worst! Its been replaced at the end of 2006 with a new one and yet P2 sell this outdated model to us Malaysian as new at a cut throat price.
As for my question, which one is more important to you? (I don't care if its P1 or P2. Got nothing to do with them)
1) More value for your hard earned money.
2) Developed in-house.
Which one is more important to the end user like us?
Overpriced, much hyped about T-dna yet outdated Viva definitely a watershed about my opinion on P2. I can't believed such a kei-car was slapped a near m-line Myvi price.
Since kelisa, myvi and later nautica got almost contemporary with Daihatsu counterparts PLC, the Viva simply take the older model with mod to make it more contemporary with high price and profit from this models easily offset the MPV price to make it more competitive.
I buy any car based on rational, and Perodua MPV is a deserved my attention as it's contemporary with T and D variants.
[quote comment="232573"]Overpriced, much hyped about T-dna yet outdated Viva definitely a watershed about my opinion on P2. I can't believed such a kei-car was slapped a near m-line Myvi price.
Since kelisa, myvi and later nautica got almost contemporary with Daihatsu counterparts PLC, the Viva simply take the older model with mod to make it more contemporary with high price and profit from this models easily offset the MPV price to make it more competitive.
I buy any car based on rational, and Perodua MPV is a deserved my attention as it's contemporary with T and D variants.[/quote]
Glad that at least there are someone here who are on the same page as I am.
huhuhu..interior same like passo sette..nothing change..
Interior – Perodua
Exterior – Proton
That's all.
[quote comment="232570"][quote comment="232567"]
you think this tiny mpv is value for money? up to you….but p2 cars have never been of any value to me…look at tiny viva selling ay 45k. my goodness…i can get a persona at that price.
you see the value there because u perceive of this as a jap car. p2 has already been part to toyota in many ppls's mind.
if i slap a chery badge to this car i wait and see what you say about it.[/quote]
Agree with you. And I personally think that Viva is the worst! Its been replaced at the end of 2006 with a new one and yet P2 sell this outdated model to us Malaysian as new at a cut throat price.
As for my question, which one is more important to you? (I don't care if its P1 or P2. Got nothing to do with them)
1) More value for your hard earned money.
2) Developed in-house.
Which one is more important to the end user like us?[/quote]
Haiyar~ Can't agree with both of u lar~
Viva punya RM 45k Is the FULL SPECS, but in turn for the PERSONA's RM 45K, all u get is an empty shell that will eat all ur pocket money since it is very makan minyak (1597cc) compared with Viva's <1000cc
Viva's RM 45k u have 2 airbags, ABS EBD AND BA, but in turn PERSONA's RM45K U GET NOTHING!!!!
Why Proton have to make so many line??? If those poor people don't have enough money and want to drive big car, don't buy big car lar~
Proton make Base-Line model is silly, Empty Crap without safety feature.
Perodua's lower sepcs vehicle at least they have ABS and EBD.
The Government should Make these safety features (ABS,EBD & BA and Airbags) A COMPULSORY. Those company that make these kind of safety features a compulsory will be compund and be banned!!! ~~~What, am I a Minister for the Automobile Territory???
We should practice this way, make these SAFETY FEATURES a COMPULSORY, we don't want empty CRAP that waste our money. Be Practical!!!
[quote comment="232581"]
Haiyar~ Can't agree with both of u lar~
Viva punya RM 45k Is the FULL SPECS, but in turn for the PERSONA's RM 45K, all u get is an empty shell that will eat all ur pocket money since it is very makan minyak (1597cc) compared with Viva's <1000cc
Viva's RM 45k u have 2 airbags, ABS EBD AND BA, but in turn PERSONA's RM45K U GET NOTHING!!!!
Why Proton have to make so many line??? If those poor people don't have enough money and want to drive big car, don't buy big car lar~
Proton make Base-Line model is silly, Empty Crap without safety feature.
Perodua's lower sepcs vehicle at least they have ABS and EBD.
The Government should Make these safety features (ABS,EBD & BA and Airbags) A COMPULSORY. Those company that make these kind of safety features a compulsory will be compund and be banned!!! ~~~What, am I a Minister for the Automobile Territory???
We should practice this way, make these SAFETY FEATURES a COMPULSORY, we don't want empty CRAP that waste our money. Be Practical!!![/quote]
We compared old and outdated Viva to Myvi lah bro. Not to Persona.
Sorry for the wrong info, The Perodua model Premium version only, will included the Airbags ABS, EBD & BA.
Hai~~~Pity those poor people, their life don't deserve a safety car~
[quote comment="232584"]Sorry for the wrong info, The Perodua model Premium version only, will included the Airbags ABS, EBD & BA.
Hai~~~Pity those poor people, their life don't deserve a safety car~[/quote]
A small car IS a small car, no matter how many air bags you slap in it.
Viva's not the only cars in the road, you know.
What, now you're gonna tell me its frame is made from concrete?
cantik ke interior mcm ni? for me interior exora lg cantik.
[quote comment="232590"]cantik ke interior mcm ni? for me interior exora lg cantik.[/quote
yup same for me….but it's subjective…
and for the value of money…i think exora….extra 7k u get space, handling..aircond blower 4 everyone…good for another 5 years…i dont buy car 4 the 'wow' interior…space is the most important factor for me…
and please la ….choose darker interior…
until the p2 mpv comes out, i would prefer exora. Cant really compare based on snapshots alone
The perodua MPV column turn to viva column..
anyway,those who praise too much on viva, you must accept that your viva is daihatsu cuore 2002 version and has been replaced by new cuore 2006.while viva introduced in 2007..kesian..
At least,Exora is self-develop by Proton.Perodua is still copy and paste..NO EFFORT AT ALL.
Kenapa takde sapa2 rectify perodua ni sama mcm naza n inokom?padahal sama je ketiga-tiga ini ialah car assembler.cuma perodua je dpt markah tinggi sikit sbb namanya Perusahaan Otomobil Kedua..if Inokom use Perotiga n Naza use Peroempat,then both will threat as Perodua also kot.
Try harder for this Myvi Wagon.
Perodua Never Never Never Change …………… Copycat ……… haha…………
[quote comment="232584"]Sorry for the wrong info, The Perodua model Premium version only, will included the Airbags ABS, EBD & BA.
Hai~~~Pity those poor people, their life don't deserve a safety car~[/quote]
you think the airbags can save you in an accident inside the tin-can viva?
think again…
just open up the doors and see what is inside to protect you…..if there is anything at all inside.
Nice interior, but Malaysians will prefer size of the Exora and the looks as well. Having a strechd myvi is not really that nice
Haiyar~ Can't agree with both of u lar~
Viva punya RM 45k Is the FULL SPECS, but in turn for the PERSONA's RM 45K, all u get is an empty shell that will eat all ur pocket money since it is very makan minyak (1597cc) compared with Viva's <1000cc
Viva's RM 45k u have 2 airbags, ABS EBD AND BA, but in turn PERSONA's RM45K U GET NOTHING!!!!
Why Proton have to make so many line??? If those poor people don't have enough money and want to drive big car, don't buy big car lar~
Proton make Base-Line model is silly, Empty Crap without safety feature.
Perodua's lower sepcs vehicle at least they have ABS and EBD.
The Government should Make these safety features (ABS,EBD & BA and Airbags) A COMPULSORY. Those company that make these kind of safety features a compulsory will be compund and be banned!!! ~~~What, am I a Minister for the Automobile Territory???
We should practice this way, make these SAFETY FEATURES a COMPULSORY, we don't want empty CRAP that waste our money. Be Practical!!![/quote]
Ayoyo, pls compare apple to apple laaa…Persona fullspec is RM59k while lowest viva spec is rm28k..outdated Kcar vs entry-level sedan?apa laa…
foot brake the same like mercedes masterpiece? .. fuyo
press on the brake pedal with ur left foot until it locks . pull a lever under the dashboard with ur right hand to release it. (foot brake in the merc)
the interior is much better than exora,
with so many inform start to leak out,
surely some of us had holding back to buy exora,
and rather just wait for this mpv….
[quote comment="232543"] Proton also source from oversea. Remember, your beloved Lotus is in UK (salary paid in pound sterling ohh) so your ringgit is leaking out while u didn't notice. Lotus have been making losses year after year.
They are many more ringgit fallen into undeserve "middle man". Our normal rakyat won't know or see who they are.
As a consumer, we want more choice, more quality & spec. More value for our hard earn money. We don't want to pay stupid tax for oversea car (that's why P2, Naza, Inokom etc is welcome by the rakyat)
Just a simple question for u, how many engine CC choice do u got from Exora?? Oh no, ONLY SATU….. AGAIN. Diesel engine? (better don't ask)
How long have Gen2 & it's many aethetic ungrade hv been in the market? When is the Gen2 replacement coming? 5yrs more??[/quote]
There are some ppl said from 100%, 90% is malaysian & 10% outsourse. There u get it, Lotus is 1 of 10% proton, money out from malaysia to lotus yet came back as profit & technology. It is waste of money compare than "kereta terlaris no:1 di Malaysia" but the design has to sell to parent company coz don't have RM1mill++ to make a mould ???… Hello… do you undrestand or blind. How's is "middle man". This "middle man" appear on P2, Naza & Inokom. By engine choice we have own campro start from 1.3L until 1.6L that used on diffrances segment. Exora case u have to understand that after 25 years this is first home grown MPV (juara is minivan) so selection on engine are limited for while but if you want Proton can install for you 2.0L perdana engine under the hood if u have the money but still have a lot configuration to do to match with frame. Diesel ?… Proton on the track of R&D of diesel engine with joint vanture with Renault (if this happen). So for right now don't ask yet coz it in progress. Other thing, u know how big our auto industry in the world ?. It goes around 2% to 7% compare than big players which dominant 25% to 30% each. So to change & replace current model for them are simple compare that Proton that do have tiny support by own Malaysian. Korean also do crap Car before but they can achive the susses by supported koreans. ;) peace……
this mini mpv will just eat up the dated avanza's 2000 or so sales per month. its competing against itself more than with the exora
my boy,
still hard to answer your question until i see the actual car in the showroom
[quote comment="232612"]foot brake the same like mercedes masterpiece? .. fuyo
press on the brake pedal with ur left foot until it locks . pull a lever under the dashboard with ur right hand to release it. (foot brake in the merc)[/quote]
Errr…even nissan cefiro has it…hehehe
Those who said the D46T interior beautiful, you are are actually praise DMC's designer..not Perodua cause Perodua only design the steering only (wow..susahnye na design..lol)
Until now Perodua RnD (Rest and Die) do nothing either Copy and Paste…Proton RnD had moving far far away and it exactly will give good name to our country.
Proud with Proton and Support Proton!!!They have work hard to give the best to Malaysian..from Malaysian to Malaysian
OMG..OMG..OMG
watch the first pic and second pic..
not only 2, but 3-4 people can sit in front!! because there is no separator between Driver and front passanger…OMG OMG…
and aso… no extra sealbelt provided for the front passanger..i mean the third seatbelt.. OMG OMG..
While u are Driving..suddenly your kids change the gear to R…..hahahaha…
ANYWAY…THIS IS JAPAN TECHNOLOGY..and everyone will said that it is good… But for malaysian.. i think not good for safety purpose..
.
[quote comment="232615"][quote comment="232543"] Proton also source from oversea. Remember, your beloved Lotus is in UK (salary paid in pound sterling ohh) so your ringgit is leaking out while u didn't notice. Lotus have been making losses year after year.
They are many more ringgit fallen into undeserve "middle man". Our normal rakyat won't know or see who they are.
As a consumer, we want more choice, more quality & spec. More value for our hard earn money. We don't want to pay stupid tax for oversea car (that's why P2, Naza, Inokom etc is welcome by the rakyat)
Just a simple question for u, how many engine CC choice do u got from Exora?? Oh no, ONLY SATU….. AGAIN. Diesel engine? (better don't ask)
How long have Gen2 & it's many aethetic ungrade hv been in the market? When is the Gen2 replacement coming? 5yrs more??[/quote]
There are some ppl said from 100%, 90% is malaysian & 10% outsourse. There u get it, Lotus is 1 of 10% proton, money out from malaysia to lotus yet came back as profit & technology. It is waste of money compare than "kereta terlaris no:1 di Malaysia" but the design has to sell to parent company coz don't have RM1mill++ to make a mould ???… Hello… do you undrestand or blind. How's is "middle man". This "middle man" appear on P2, Naza & Inokom. By engine choice we have own campro start from 1.3L until 1.6L that used on diffrances segment. Exora case u have to understand that after 25 years this is first home grown MPV (juara is minivan) so selection on engine are limited for while but if you want Proton can install for you 2.0L perdana engine under the hood if u have the money but still have a lot configuration to do to match with frame. Diesel ?… Proton on the track of R&D of diesel engine with joint vanture with Renault (if this happen). So for right now don't ask yet coz it in progress. Other thing, u know how big our auto industry in the world ?. It goes around 2% to 7% compare than big players which dominant 25% to 30% each. So to change & replace current model for them are simple compare that Proton that do have tiny support by own Malaysian. Korean also do crap Car before but they can achive the susses by supported koreans. ;) peace……[/quote]
I'm absolutely agree with you. Proton and Perodua is really really small car maker industry in the world. Look at these Japan and German big car companies. These two countries are conquering all the world. German own Benz, BMW, Audi, Opel, Porshe, VW, Smart,etc… Japan own Daihatsu, Mitsubishi, Honda, Mazda, Nissan, Toyota, Lexus, etc. Their country produce so many cars from diff company and they can learn from each other while we.. cant coz we have limited technology can learn so we must learn it from oversea. Like P1 used to copy Mitsubishi, but now P1 can make a truely malaysian car. P2 wise, haha I dunno when will it starts to make its own car by not copy and rebadge other country car.
But i'm curious can someone tell me why is Malaysia here have very less American cars? I can see only Ford and Chevrolet on the road. Most of the ppl here drive European, Jap and Korean cars.
[quote comment="232570"][quote comment="232567"]
As for my question, which one is more important to you? (I don't care if its P1 or P2. Got nothing to do with them)
1) More value for your hard earned money.
2) Developed in-house.
Which one is more important to the end user like us?[/quote]
how are u urself goin to answer ur question? since the vehicle itself not yet on the road?
WHich is important to you?
1. vehicle that already clear with the specs?
2. vehicle that has a name that can perceive you?
Ok, this is an honest opinion. The three knobs…really fugly la…
And this is also an honest opinion…the radio looks good.
[quote comment="232627"][quote comment="232570"][quote comment="232567"]
As for my question, which one is more important to you? (I don't care if its P1 or P2. Got nothing to do with them)
1) More value for your hard earned money.
2) Developed in-house.
Which one is more important to the end user like us?[/quote]
how are u urself goin to answer ur question? since the vehicle itself not yet on the road?
WHich is important to you?
1. vehicle that already clear with the specs?
2. vehicle that has a name that can perceive you?[/quote]
Hello bro. This question got nothing to do with any car lah bro. Just asking which one is your priority. Is that so tough?
[quote comment="232618"][quote comment="232612"]foot brake the same like mercedes masterpiece? .. fuyo
press on the brake pedal with ur left foot until it locks . pull a lever under the dashboard with ur right hand to release it. (foot brake in the merc)[/quote]
Errr…even nissan cefiro has it…hehehe[/quote]
one of the most affordable cars around with a foot-operated parking brake is the Nissan Sylphy.
[quote comment="232519"]
Can you tell me which one is more important (this applicable to both P1 and P2):
1) More value for your hard earned money.
2) Developed in-house.
If the "developed in-house" (I don't care if its from P1 or P2) model is at the same time give "more value for money", then it is the best choice. Otherwise I will go for "more value for money".[/quote]
Hi MyBoy,
I would choose Option no.1 (More value for your hard earned money) in a heartbeat. Such an easy answer.
Option 2 means nothing if the car crap anyway.
[quote comment="232636"][quote comment="232519"]
Can you tell me which one is more important (this applicable to both P1 and P2):
1) More value for your hard earned money.
2) Developed in-house.
If the "developed in-house" (I don't care if its from P1 or P2) model is at the same time give "more value for money", then it is the best choice. Otherwise I will go for "more value for money".[/quote]
Hi MyBoy,
I would choose Option no.1 (More value for your hard earned money) in a heartbeat. Such an easy answer.
Option 2 means nothing if the car crap anyway.[/quote]
me too…i choose no. 1. the exora. some more the exora also give u no. 2.
its more value for money and also developed in house.
cayalah proton
[quote comment="232636"][quote comment="232519"]
Can you tell me which one is more important (this applicable to both P1 and P2):
1) More value for your hard earned money.
2) Developed in-house.
If the "developed in-house" (I don't care if its from P1 or P2) model is at the same time give "more value for money", then it is the best choice. Otherwise I will go for "more value for money".[/quote]
Hi MyBoy,
I would choose Option no.1 (More value for your hard earned money) in a heartbeat. Such an easy answer.
Option 2 means nothing if the car crap anyway.[/quote]
Me too. Glad to know that I'm not alone
I choose Perodua Rusa Baru.. i mean this model..
anyway… any naming contest? huhuhuhu… if i won this MPV… i lelong it directly.. RM50k should be ok…
.
.
I proposed RUSA BARU for this P2 MPV..
To pRo2..
dont change anything..just give us Passo Sette… itu pun manyak susah ka? test drive kononnya, crash test kununnya…
we are waiting for this MPV…
Cheese!!
HMMM…..I PREFER EXORA THAN THIS ONE….I DONT KNOW, I VE WATCHED THE EXORA LAUNCH VIDEO AND REALISE HOW MUCH EFFORT BEING PUT BY OUR OWN ENGINEER AND LOCAL DESIGNER (NOT BUMPER DESIGNER ONLY) TO PRODUCE MALYSIAN FIRST MPV, somehow i fell very proud, very patriotic after watching that launch video…..very "terharu" after seeing the actual car…..my vote goes for exora!!!!……..Malaysia mmg boleh!! ….
[quote comment="232638"][quote comment="232636"][quote comment="232519"]
Can you tell me which one is more important (this applicable to both P1 and P2):
1) More value for your hard earned money.
2) Developed in-house.
If the "developed in-house" (I don't care if its from P1 or P2) model is at the same time give "more value for money", then it is the best choice. Otherwise I will go for "more value for money".[/quote]
Hi MyBoy,
I would choose Option no.1 (More value for your hard earned money) in a heartbeat. Such an easy answer.
Option 2 means nothing if the car crap anyway.[/quote]
me too…i choose no. 1. the exora. some more the exora also give u no. 2.
its more value for money and also developed in house.
cayalah proton[/quote]
~ Its an easy question…I would choose no 1…coz its value for my money..furthermore..developed in our own country gives us image that we r learning….ppl who not learn ( bak pepatah: bodoh sombong) is nothing..accept everything without questioned it..an idiot would only praise other ppl without trying to be one of successful ppl…
[quote comment="232624"] But i'm curious can someone tell me why is Malaysia here have very less American cars? I can see only Ford and Chevrolet on the road. Most of the ppl here drive European, Jap and Korean cars.[/quote]
kelvin… u know American all actual big & powerfull are importance. Please see Fast & Furios 1 & 4 also Discovery Turbo Channel for your referance. However this Ford & Chavy have long time in tanah melayu already. So it easy to sell coz of history & background. Contoh Ford Escort kat malaysia design nak sama dengan Ford Mustang kat America. Cuba google & compare persamaan. :)
The 3knobs is just ridiculous. Just when i thought the new City's aircond knob was a joke, looks like this one made it to the #1 list beating City's knobs. Meter seems nice with the blue coloured scheme but why center ? Looks weird to me … seems like some part of the dash looks good while some part seems weird..
[quote comment="232581"][quote comment="232570"][quote comment="232567"]
Perodua's lower sepcs vehicle at least they have ABS and EBD.
[/quote]
hahahaha.. u must be joking…
viva 660 – no ABS,EBD & Airbags
Viva 850 – no ABS,EBD & Airbags
Viva 1000 SX – no ABS,EBD & Airbags
Viva 1000 EZ – no ABS,EBD & Airbags
Mivi 1.0 – no ABS,EBD & Airbags
Mivi 1.3 SX – no ABS,EBD & Airbags
Mivi 1.3 EZ – no ABS,EBD & Airbags
Kenari EZ – no ABS,EBD & Airbags
Kenari GX AERO – no ABS,EBD & Airbags
Kenari EZ AERO – no ABS,EBD & Airbags
Kenari RS – no ABS,EBD & Airbags
Kancil (all models) – no ABS,EBD & Airbags
although u admit your mistake later on..
but your early thought make u look really Stiupeed…
PROTON vs PERODUA, I think I will still go for PERODUA 1st deal to its high reliability.
comfort,safety ,handling,space and features… exora
FC and engine performance.. perodua MPV
[quote comment="232624"][quote comment="232615"][quote comment="232543"] Proton also source from oversea. Remember, your beloved Lotus is in UK (salary paid in pound sterling ohh) so your ringgit is leaking out while u didn't notice. Lotus have been making losses year after year.
They are many more ringgit fallen into undeserve "middle man". Our normal rakyat won't know or see who they are.
As a consumer, we want more choice, more quality & spec. More value for our hard earn money. We don't want to pay stupid tax for oversea car (that's why P2, Naza, Inokom etc is welcome by the rakyat)
Just a simple question for u, how many engine CC choice do u got from Exora?? Oh no, ONLY SATU….. AGAIN. Diesel engine? (better don't ask)
How long have Gen2 & it's many aethetic ungrade hv been in the market? When is the Gen2 replacement coming? 5yrs more??[/quote]
There are some ppl said from 100%, 90% is malaysian & 10% outsourse. There u get it, Lotus is 1 of 10% proton, money out from malaysia to lotus yet came back as profit & technology. It is waste of money compare than "kereta terlaris no:1 di Malaysia" but the design has to sell to parent company coz don't have RM1mill++ to make a mould ???… Hello… do you undrestand or blind. How's is "middle man". This "middle man" appear on P2, Naza & Inokom. By engine choice we have own campro start from 1.3L until 1.6L that used on diffrances segment. Exora case u have to understand that after 25 years this is first home grown MPV (juara is minivan) so selection on engine are limited for while but if you want Proton can install for you 2.0L perdana engine under the hood if u have the money but still have a lot configuration to do to match with frame. Diesel ?… Proton on the track of R&D of diesel engine with joint vanture with Renault (if this happen). So for right now don't ask yet coz it in progress. Other thing, u know how big our auto industry in the world ?. It goes around 2% to 7% compare than big players which dominant 25% to 30% each. So to change & replace current model for them are simple compare that Proton that do have tiny support by own Malaysian. Korean also do crap Car before but they can achive the susses by supported koreans. ;) peace……[/quote]
I'm absolutely agree with you. Proton and Perodua is really really small car maker industry in the world. Look at these Japan and German big car companies. These two countries are conquering all the world. German own Benz, BMW, Audi, Opel, Porshe, VW, Smart,etc… Japan own Daihatsu, Mitsubishi, Honda, Mazda, Nissan, Toyota, Lexus, etc. Their country produce so many cars from diff company and they can learn from each other while we.. cant coz we have limited technology can learn so we must learn it from oversea. Like P1 used to copy Mitsubishi, but now P1 can make a truely malaysian car. P2 wise, haha I dunno when will it starts to make its own car by not copy and rebadge other country car.
But i'm curious can someone tell me why is Malaysia here have very less American cars? I can see only Ford and Chevrolet on the road. Most of the ppl here drive European, Jap and Korean cars.[/quote]
who said small auto maker cannot come out many model?
look at the chinese maker such as chery, geely, or even byd;
they are new in the auto market , but they had full range of car, engine,etc.
like proton take so many year to replace their existing model, how to compete
in the open market? where is the proton perdana replacement?where is the proton suv? when proton can has their own diesel engine? 1.8 to 3.0 little engine? now even proton partner in china young man auto is develop more than 8 new model with lotus help..
the basic thing is that proton dont want to invest huge money on new tech,
on develop new model….
if malaysia serius in auto business, please show it.
i am poor people. i want more value for my hard earned money. i don't want waste money and time with rich people again and again. i don't care what is the “developed in-house” . for me, it just a games for rich people.
[quote comment="232651"][quote comment="232581"][quote comment="232570"][quote comment="232567"]
Perodua's lower sepcs vehicle at least they have ABS and EBD.
[/quote]
hahahaha.. u must be joking…
viva 660 – no ABS,EBD & Airbags
Viva 850 – no ABS,EBD & Airbags
Viva 1000 SX – no ABS,EBD & Airbags
Viva 1000 EZ – no ABS,EBD & Airbags
Mivi 1.0 – no ABS,EBD & Airbags
Mivi 1.3 SX – no ABS,EBD & Airbags
Mivi 1.3 EZ – no ABS,EBD & Airbags
Kenari EZ – no ABS,EBD & Airbags
Kenari GX AERO – no ABS,EBD & Airbags
Kenari EZ AERO – no ABS,EBD & Airbags
Kenari RS – no ABS,EBD & Airbags
Kancil (all models) – no ABS,EBD & Airbags
although u admit your mistake later on..
but your early thought make u look really Stiupeed…[/quote]
if i not mistaken, even china made model in malaysia such as
chery, chana era all have abs , and airbag(optional),
even many said china make not safe, but the true is they offer
abs, airbag in their product,
i think is very irresponsible for peroduo to not offer abs in their product,
as it a top seller in malaysia, make money is one thing, to make sure
your supporter is safe is also very important.
malaysian life is not cheap, please.
darn it…
the perodua mpv looks better interior wise…
i like the radio controls very2 much, although the a/c dials are ugly…
if this is going to be around rm62-66k, the exora will sure have a tough competition though…
[quote comment="232519"]
For me it Develop in house & Value for my money since the money still stimulate around the country to help stabilize our economy. "Buy Malaysian Brand".[/quote]
for me, "By Malaysian Blinds" to help stabilize our economy.
ppl easily conned by this display unit…
similar as exora PRIME version with leather seat and 2 tone color (beige/black).. looks kewl but of coz its dor display only.. not for sale
why no pic of 3rd row seat??? try to hide the meja makan one??
prrrfthhh
[quote comment="232370"][quote comment="232319"]exora gonna have hard time….hopefully proton gonna modify something…like putting new engine…lol…dont be surprise if this perodua mpv can overtake exora with an ease….can the foot handbrake really cool….proton need to intro that as well…[/quote]
confuse, when time for P1 came with 1.6, then everybody claim for the highest new engine. Hey guy, why don't you asked P2 to put this new MPV with new engine too, 1.5 is too la maaaa…
very double standard mind la.. macam amerika…[/quote]
ya..la kutuk AS, tapi bila nak cuti, pakai duit rakyat beribu-ribu seronok kat Disneyland AS.
Oh my Proton's efforts look amateurish compared to this. The Exora is a bland looking vehicle, inside and out. Of course with this interior Perodua has demonstrated it need'nt be so. Well Toyota parts bin sharing is actually a good thing. I say this will beat the Exora. Doesnt matter abt size/cost/market. This just makes more sense. I got a Saga Robocop just to be different from all those Myvi armies but hey i should have not challenged the status quo. Proton sadly falls just below the mark. The problem is, Perodua comfortably pulls a big gap away. Its all abt getting the fundamentals right.
hmmm.. nice..
[quote comment="232497"]
Malaysian compare car base on makes and price range, not so much on size like in the West thanks to G tax structure. Thats why Honday City/Vios directly competing with Waja-type market even though actually, both also different range.[/quote]
you told the true. under G tax structure, only could compare with price.
haha.
my brother who is working in perodua as an assistan general manager said that,
this PERODUA will be coming with a 1.6 litre engine taken from a toyota altis and alos with a 1.8 turbo diesel.
they are still dealing with toyota right now for the engine.
the 1.8 turbodiesel will produce a whopping 176 hp and this car is rear wheel drive.
damn!
i bet it can smoke the exora!
nyehahhaha!
[quote comment="232396"]The selling point of P2 mpv would be the interior and the exterior….. way much nicer than exora…… who cares whether it is slightly smaller, the engine is sufficient to produce enough horsepower and torque if you take into account the size and the weight. Most important thing is the "look" of the vehicle and with reliable parts. Would you drive a bigger vehicle but ugly or a smaller in size but look nice? think about it… i think proton should take this into account before they came out with exora. If exora has the interior and the exterior of P2 new mpv and with 1.6 engine producing 125hp, I think P1 will definitely get better reception from the market share and P2 will have hard time to compete with Proton.
Way to go Perodua…… not owning any P2 and not a P2 fan though. But will take into account of getting one as a second car after seeing the real thing on the road. Pricewise, really attarctive if they can make it below 66K.[/quote]
In malaysia.. SIZE DOES MATTER.. who cares better ride handling but small ( this comment come from myvi owner hentam savvy)
bro u sound u know every thing.. u know what.. when proton develope exora they do benchmaking with not only avanza and livina.. but also this upcoming perodua.. passo sette is oredi in the market almost ayear..
they studied strenght and weaknesses of sette and thet know what sette can and can't offer…
don't simply hentam la
[quote comment="232668"][quote comment="232519"]
For me it Develop in house & Value for my money since the money still stimulate around the country to help stabilize our economy. "Buy Malaysian Brand".[/quote]
for me, "By Malaysian Blinds" to help stabilize our economy.[/quote]
Hey bro! Since when I wrote that? You quote someone else's post yang accidentally put my name or what?
more perodua mpv & videos at
http://funtastickodesign.wordpress.com/2009/04/21…
[quote comment="232581"][quote comment="232570"][quote comment="232567"]
you think this tiny mpv is value for money? up to you….but p2 cars have never been of any value to me…look at tiny viva selling ay 45k. my goodness…i can get a persona at that price.
you see the value there because u perceive of this as a jap car. p2 has already been part to toyota in many ppls's mind.
if i slap a chery badge to this car i wait and see what you say about it.[/quote]
Agree with you. And I personally think that Viva is the worst! Its been replaced at the end of 2006 with a new one and yet P2 sell this outdated model to us Malaysian as new at a cut throat price.
As for my question, which one is more important to you? (I don't care if its P1 or P2. Got nothing to do with them)
1) More value for your hard earned money.
2) Developed in-house.
Which one is more important to the end user like us?[/quote]
Haiyar~ Can't agree with both of u lar~
Viva punya RM 45k Is the FULL SPECS, but in turn for the PERSONA's RM 45K, all u get is an empty shell that will eat all ur pocket money since it is very makan minyak (1597cc) compared with Viva's <1000cc
Viva's RM 45k u have 2 airbags, ABS EBD AND BA, but in turn PERSONA's RM45K U GET NOTHING!!!!
Why Proton have to make so many line??? If those poor people don't have enough money and want to drive big car, don't buy big car lar~
Proton make Base-Line model is silly, Empty Crap without safety feature.
Perodua's lower sepcs vehicle at least they have ABS and EBD.
The Government should Make these safety features (ABS,EBD & BA and Airbags) A COMPULSORY. Those company that make these kind of safety features a compulsory will be compund and be banned!!! ~~~What, am I a Minister for the Automobile Territory???
We should practice this way, make these SAFETY FEATURES a COMPULSORY, we don't want empty CRAP that waste our money. Be Practical!!![/quote]
What are U saying? Now I own a Viva. It is just 1 year old. The engine sounds like a motorboat still praising ha? Now can hear rattling sound from the rear door. Today, the cupholders are making sound when I put a bottle while driving, vibrating. Somemore the windshield is so thin.
One more thing, I bought the Viva 1.0 Auto standard version. A Rm40k++ car. This car doesn't have an airbag, no ABS/EBD or other safety features besides the seatbelts. I bought this car because of one factor, to go around the city, it's small and can park easily. I never drove this car in long distances. I would get a headache. This is the main reason why Perodua cars still sell because, it is small and city friendly. Most of the proton cars are bigger than Perodua's, remember this. I bet U don't own any Perodua cars. Know the facts right!
Let me tell you my real story.
I have a Waja. It's my wife's car but I took care of it just like mine. Do you want to know, I 'd driven the car up to the hills of the timur-barat highway with 6 overweight people. Imagine that. I ahad used the car to go through the kebun getah. Imagine this. The car is almost 5 years old and it's still going strong. Now when U want to talk about things, make sure U include the facts.
I don't know why people still want to bash Proton eventhough they had the Proton Technology week, and the Exora development. I REPEAT, PROTON HAS EARS NOW. Say what you want and they'll try to listen.
Now Mr Henryee, IF YOU ARE REALLY SMAT ENOUGH please answer my question. State me, why aren't they were any development statements of the DVVT?
Ke-Chow!
P/S I recently own a Kancil. Before I own any car, it was my first car, now it is really an old car. I don't know how long it will last. Before this Perodua do produce good small cars, but now…sigh!
from the pic now i know why perodua do the road test and been spyshot..
they invest almost 1 billion and spent 10 months to develope and design the steering and ac button… of coz the steering need to be tested.. that why they bawak road test
prrrfthhh
hello bro… china car market is very big. thats y their car industry grow very fast. now even porsche do international launch over there. in malaysia, even their own people also dun want to buy local car, how to get economic of scale.
[quote comment="232651"][quote comment="232581"][quote comment="232570"][quote comment="232567"]
Perodua's lower sepcs vehicle at least they have ABS and EBD.
[/quote]
hahahaha.. u must be joking…
viva 660 – no ABS,EBD & Airbags
Viva 850 – no ABS,EBD & Airbags
Viva 1000 SX – no ABS,EBD & Airbags
Viva 1000 EZ – no ABS,EBD & Airbags
Mivi 1.0 – no ABS,EBD & Airbags
Mivi 1.3 SX – no ABS,EBD & Airbags
Mivi 1.3 EZ – no ABS,EBD & Airbags
Kenari EZ – no ABS,EBD & Airbags
Kenari GX AERO – no ABS,EBD & Airbags
Kenari EZ AERO – no ABS,EBD & Airbags
Kenari RS – no ABS,EBD & Airbags
Kancil (all models) – no ABS,EBD & Airbags
although u admit your mistake later on..
but your early thought make u look really Stiupeed…[/quote]
and……….no power steering too…
even lowesst spec BLM comes with electric power steering…
Since most of u say exora is soo goood ar so i personally checked it out
this afternoon & these r d good & bad bout d car..
-car looks nice except d rear lights coz led looks odd like less bulbs
( cut cost maybe ) unlike other led lights which is full & neat.
-dashboard & door panel texture almost none until u look closer which
also feels bit too hard.
-aircond vent feels solid tough but not the ones on ceiling which feels
like it could crack under long sun light.
-2nd row seat bit difficult to pull up until d salesman shout" tarik kuat2
jangan sayang dia" then only i can pull it up.
-3rd row seat has great head room but less leg room coz my foot could
not touch d floor due to my knee stuck on d back bench of 2nd seat
unless its straight & it coudnt b slide.
-when i shut d door with all other door closed some how it didnt sound
like " coup" which u feel d solidness of d car.
-gear knob bit rough when shifting & d gated plate is very soft if u press
it & seems like those what to call them " divider" would break if u shift
from P straight to D hard or accidently.
Guess nothing is perfect after all d fuzz anyway.
joined seat at 1st row is useless… look like van sekolah and lorry…
it is place for 3 passenger but it is illegal and dangerous for kid.
it''s useful for those who wanna making love in the car
WOw…I Didt expect the interior to be this awesome.If you actually put the dashboard pictures of the Exora and this D46T side by side,the Exora dashboard will look like it came from a car in the 90's.
If this is the real production unit ,then I can say my bet with someone about the D46T outselling the exora by 100% will become reality.
Haih,wondering whether that someone still have the balls to cut his hand or fingers…lolzz…
[quote comment="232681"][quote comment="232668"][quote comment="232519"]
For me it Develop in house & Value for my money since the money still stimulate around the country to help stabilize our economy. "Buy Malaysian Brand".[/quote]
for me, "By Malaysian Blinds" to help stabilize our economy.[/quote]
Hey bro! Since when I wrote that? You quote someone else's post yang accidentally put my name or what?[/quote]
sorry bro, accidentallylah, it was initial R wrote.
[quote comment="232692"]Since most of u say exora is soo goood ar so i personally checked it out
this afternoon & these r d good & bad bout d car..
-car looks nice except d rear lights coz led looks odd like less bulbs
( cut cost maybe ) unlike other led lights which is full & neat.
-dashboard & door panel texture almost none until u look closer which
also feels bit too hard.
-aircond vent feels solid tough but not the ones on ceiling which feels
like it could crack under long sun light.
-2nd row seat bit difficult to pull up until d salesman shout" tarik kuat2
jangan sayang dia" then only i can pull it up.
-3rd row seat has great head room but less leg room coz my foot could
not touch d floor due to my knee stuck on d back bench of 2nd seat
unless its straight & it coudnt b slide.
-when i shut d door with all other door closed some how it didnt sound
like " coup" which u feel d solidness of d car.
-gear knob bit rough when shifting & d gated plate is very soft if u press
it & seems like those what to call them " divider" would break if u shift
from P straight to D hard or accidently.
Guess nothing is perfect after all d fuzz anyway.[/quote]
bad things for upcoming MPV perodua..
1.no AC for 2nd/3rd row seat ( get one blower from front only… )
this is malaysia .. hot country.. no japan
2.the head rest of 3rd row seat need to be cabut if you want fold down the seat.
3. 2nd row seat.. sliding type.. difficult to access to 3rd row seat.. and the 2nd row seat need to be pressed (kena tarik tali) to make it flat
4. Handling .. out.. feel like avanza van… floating as usual… MPV means we want to make sure our passengers (child) feel comfort.. u as driver don't syok sendiri.. we may feel good being as driver at 1st row.. but 2nd/3rd row ppl suffer..
5. 3rd row is not 50;50 splitted.. means if want more space for luggace.. u have to sacrify 3rd row seat for passenger
They say Myvi = My vehicle
Why not call this Myco = My coffin
Haha.
good thing for upcoming Perodua
1. adequate power… power to weight ratio is better than exora.. more pick up
2. Fuel economy.. the FC should be better than exora..
interm of comfort,handling, space, safety and features offered.. exora more better
Pendapat aku.. walaupun perodua keluar apa-apa jenis model sekali pun. aku tak pernah nak rasa bangga dengan keluaran mereka. sebab model mereka bukannya 100% malaysia. semua buatan toyota dan daihatsu cuma ada sedikit perubahan rekabentuk ikut citarasa malaysia. Pastu hanya pasang di Malaysia. Tak kiralah enjin ke, power window ke…etc.. Yang minat keluaran perodua ni, jenis yang suka buatan jepun cam toyota & daihatsu tapi x cukup bajet nakbeli sebab mahal…Kalu pergi mana-mana negara jiran cam indonesia, thailand boleh nampak model kereta2 sama di Malaysia ni tapi logo daihatsu & toyota.. so komen aku "hampeh" not truly malaysian made.
Pic of real upcoming perodua (sette)..
this is not touched up and decorated for display only like in MSAM one.. hehe
http://image.space.rakuten.co.jp/lg01/97/00000513…
http://image.space.rakuten.co.jp/lg01/97/00000513…
http://image.space.rakuten.co.jp/lg01/97/00000513…
any cars with 2 tone beige/black may look luxury and spacious
don't simply conned by the color
Exora with bright color scheme
http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/1778/dsc00344…. http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/3503/dsc00347k… http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/4686/dsc00346….
[quote comment="232651"][quote comment="232581"][quote comment="232570"][quote comment="232567"]
Perodua's lower sepcs vehicle at least they have ABS and EBD.
[/quote]
hahahaha.. u must be joking…
viva 660 – no ABS,EBD & Airbags
Viva 850 – no ABS,EBD & Airbags
Viva 1000 SX – no ABS,EBD & Airbags
Viva 1000 EZ – no ABS,EBD & Airbags
Mivi 1.0 – no ABS,EBD & Airbags
Mivi 1.3 SX – no ABS,EBD & Airbags
Mivi 1.3 EZ – no ABS,EBD & Airbags
Kenari EZ – no ABS,EBD & Airbags
Kenari GX AERO – no ABS,EBD & Airbags
Kenari EZ AERO – no ABS,EBD & Airbags
Kenari RS – no ABS,EBD & Airbags
Kancil (all models) – no ABS,EBD & Airbags
although u admit your mistake later on..
but your early thought make u look really Stiupeed…[/quote]
i where got write such comment…you mix up with someone else's comment la
[quote comment="232702"]Pendapat aku.. walaupun perodua keluar apa-apa jenis model sekali pun. aku tak pernah nak rasa bangga dengan keluaran mereka. sebab model mereka bukannya 100% malaysia. semua buatan toyota dan daihatsu cuma ada sedikit perubahan rekabentuk ikut citarasa malaysia. Pastu hanya pasang di Malaysia. Tak kiralah enjin ke, power window ke…etc.. Yang minat keluaran perodua ni, jenis yang suka buatan jepun cam toyota & daihatsu tapi x cukup bajet nakbeli sebab mahal…Kalu pergi mana-mana negara jiran cam indonesia, thailand boleh nampak model kereta2 sama di Malaysia ni tapi logo daihatsu & toyota.. so komen aku "hampeh" not truly malaysian made.[/quote]
Ni lagik sorang bahlul. Lenkali baca buku banyak2 la weii. Perodua ni, ramai company Jepun nak join venture sbb dorang ni aku rasa punya wawasan tersendiri. Sbb tu Toyota & Daihatsu brani melabur. Kalau dorang rasa Perodua ni xleh gi jauh, sah-sah dorang xnak berkawan pun. Lagi satu, kao tak baca paper ker? Company bertiga ni, mmg jalan projek sama-sama. Cuma bhgn luaran & dalaman jer yg ikut taste negara masing2! Kalau Perodua, dia kenalah ikot malaysia trend & taste. Bukan pakai main tampal dan sangkut jer…apa raaaa…! Sah2 mamat yg komen ni pakai kereta second hand jerk! cakap pandai, tapi tak tahu fakta..wat malu jer jadi org mesia! Aku yang pakai kereta import pun x pernah kutuk Perodua or Proton, malah aku bangga dgn persaingan sihat mereka. Masing2 punya citarasa laaa… Aku pun dah pernah pakai Myvi as second car and waja third car…so?? Apa problem?? Yang pentingnya, anak2 Malaysia ader hulur tangan utk buat kereta-kereta tuh. Tak kiralah berapa peratus, janji still dlm group yg wat kereta. Apa raaaaa…bahlul betol kao nih… Dah x suka, jgn kutuk beb…
[quote comment="232703"]Pic of real upcoming perodua (sette)..
this is not touched up and decorated for display only like in MSAM one.. hehe
http://image.space.rakuten.co.jp/lg01/97/00000513…
http://image.space.rakuten.co.jp/lg01/97/00000513…
http://image.space.rakuten.co.jp/lg01/97/00000513…
This is OLD pics already. I saw it in one blog quite a few days ago. It is definitely not a Malaysian version.
[quote comment="232682"]more perodua mpv & videos at
http://funtastickodesign.wordpress.com/2009/04/21…
What? November only tiba ar?
[quote comment="tamannegara"]who said small auto maker cannot come out many model?
look at the chinese maker such as chery, geely, or even byd;
they are new in the auto market , but they had full range of car, engine,etc.
like proton take so many year to replace their existing model, how to compete
in the open market? where is the proton perdana replacement?where is the proton suv? when proton can has their own diesel engine? 1.8 to 3.0 little engine? now even proton partner in china young man auto is develop more than 8 new model with lotus help..
the basic thing is that proton dont want to invest huge money on new tech,
on develop new model….
if malaysia serius in auto business, please show it.[/quote]
China there is the highest population in the world. Sure got many many ppl buy thier own china cheaper cars. So they dont affraid of investing or making new cars for sell. In fact their labour cost is cheaper also. But here in Malaysia… is looking into price factor. They cannot simply invest. Our car must be cheap then only ppl here can afford it. Just look at Exora, priced at 70k ppl says it is expensive.
[quote comment="232714"][quote comment="232703"]Pic of real upcoming perodua (sette)..
this is not touched up and decorated for display only like in MSAM one.. hehe
http://image.space.rakuten.co.jp/lg01/97/00000513…
http://image.space.rakuten.co.jp/lg01/97/00000513…
http://image.space.rakuten.co.jp/lg01/97/00000513…
This is OLD pics already. I saw it in one blog quite a few days ago. It is definitely not a Malaysian version.[/quote]
yeah this is not malaysia version..
if ori version(japan version) oso looks cheapo.. can't imagine how malaysia downgraded version looks like
prrrfthh
[quote comment="232713"][quote comment="232702"]Pendapat aku.. walaupun perodua keluar apa-apa jenis model sekali pun. aku tak pernah nak rasa bangga dengan keluaran mereka. sebab model mereka bukannya 100% malaysia. semua buatan toyota dan daihatsu cuma ada sedikit perubahan rekabentuk ikut citarasa malaysia. Pastu hanya pasang di Malaysia. Tak kiralah enjin ke, power window ke…etc.. Yang minat keluaran perodua ni, jenis yang suka buatan jepun cam toyota & daihatsu tapi x cukup bajet nakbeli sebab mahal…Kalu pergi mana-mana negara jiran cam indonesia, thailand boleh nampak model kereta2 sama di Malaysia ni tapi logo daihatsu & toyota.. so komen aku "hampeh" not truly malaysian made.[/quote]
Ni lagik sorang bahlul. Lenkali baca buku banyak2 la weii. Perodua ni, ramai company Jepun nak join venture sbb dorang ni aku rasa punya wawasan tersendiri. Sbb tu Toyota & Daihatsu brani melabur. Kalau dorang rasa Perodua ni xleh gi jauh, sah-sah dorang xnak berkawan pun. Lagi satu, kao tak baca paper ker? Company bertiga ni, mmg jalan projek sama-sama. Cuma bhgn luaran & dalaman jer yg ikut taste negara masing2! Kalau Perodua, dia kenalah ikot malaysia trend & taste. Bukan pakai main tampal dan sangkut jer…apa raaaa…! Sah2 mamat yg komen ni pakai kereta second hand jerk! cakap pandai, tapi tak tahu fakta..wat malu jer jadi org mesia! Aku yang pakai kereta import pun x pernah kutuk Perodua or Proton, malah aku bangga dgn persaingan sihat mereka. Masing2 punya citarasa laaa… Aku pun dah pernah pakai Myvi as second car and waja third car…so?? Apa problem?? Yang pentingnya, anak2 Malaysia ader hulur tangan utk buat kereta-kereta tuh. Tak kiralah berapa peratus, janji still dlm group yg wat kereta. Apa raaaaa…bahlul betol kao nih… Dah x suka, jgn kutuk beb…[/quote]
depa nak perodua sebab depa boleh perkudakan perodua.. jual barang mereka tapi dapat hak istimewa kenderaan natinol.. siapa yg tak nak..
perodua ikut taste malaysia???
org beli perodua pon bukan sebab dia perodua.. tapi sebab ada sentuhan "T" aje..
kalau ada syarikat ah beng brothers pi buat company rebadge keta honda jazz pastu claim as national car.. pon boleh laku gak.. senang je nak ikut taste org mesia.. janji ada bau jepun..prrrfthhh
[quote comment="232382"]hmm….i think exora interior design is far better than this one, more luxury….just my personal opinion… the first pic, looks like toy car interior laa….[/quote]
i agree with u. The Exora really did verywell in term of the material and the finishing. and the features and functions all above is only selling below RM76K and RM70K. I had test drive it.. the power is consider well because of the "driving feel". Overall, Exora is worth buy.
[quote comment="232678"]haha.
my brother who is working in perodua as an assistan general manager said that,
this PERODUA will be coming with a 1.6 litre engine taken from a toyota altis and alos with a 1.8 turbo diesel.
they are still dealing with toyota right now for the engine.
the 1.8 turbodiesel will produce a whopping 176 hp and this car is rear wheel drive.
damn!
i bet it can smoke the exora!
nyehahhaha![/quote]
And sell it's around RM55K-66K… where did u get this jokes?? oh.. ur brother was the assistant general manager… patut la pun… [quote comment="232678"]haha.
my brother who is working in perodua as an assistan general manager said that,
this PERODUA will be coming with a 1.6 litre engine taken from a toyota altis and alos with a 1.8 turbo diesel.
they are still dealing with toyota right now for the engine.
the 1.8 turbodiesel will produce a whopping 176 hp and this car is rear wheel drive.
damn!
i bet it can smoke the exora!
nyehahhaha![/quote]
and selling price is RM55-66K… where did u get this jokes? .. oh.. ur brother was the assistant general manager in P2… patut la pun…
what's the deal with foot operated handbrake? the nissan sylphy has it also what.
in fact, quite a few car have it quite some time ago.
i still think Renault's airplane style handbrake is the coolest ever. go google it to see how sweet it looks.
Dearest commentators,
Experience has made all of you to come out with variety of comments. Comments can become destructive and constructive. But whichever is, comments are made to be heard by the respective listener. Change destructive comments as a lesson to be heard and to act on it. Whereas the constructive one need not to turn someone in a state of being arrogant.
BUT, one precious thing that I learnt is that, BEAUTY IS IN THE EYE OF THE BEHOLDER…. Those who found it nice, will eventually complimenting it but those who found it ugly, will have the tendency of condemning it.
Proton MPV has its own USP (Unique Selling Point) and the same goes to Perodua.
Just like when a person needs to find the love of his/her love life… There are criterias that needs to be fill in… The same thing happen when we need to buy car. It is a huge investment. Need to think about commitments and so forth.
Preference, reliability, loyalty and trust are somehow play an important role when we need to make a huge investment. What happen if I bought this brand? Is it going to be a good investment? What would it be if I ever wanted to sell the car in the future? Does it give a higher trade value? Is it going to be easy to sell? What happen if the resale value is bad? Is it a good investment? Is the quality is good enough until we dont have to regularly visit the service branch just to change all the necessaries parts? Do we have time for that since most of us are busy with our daily job?
Think about it. No matter what brand is, and no matter how damaging your comments are, we all have our own preference.
Ya I know, it is expensive to buy other international brands but these two companies have made all of us to go to our destinations without being poured by the wetty rain.
Thank goodness we have these two companies. Atleast we could own a car! Once again, the choice is in your hands.
Think before we speak…. Are we helping these two companies with our comments to improve themselves?
Anyway, that would be it…. I used to drive a Kelisa and most of them said that it was really expensive but for me it did such a good job…. I didnt have the slightest problem with that car plus with its low fuel consumption (once again, I was single and that car does not suit a bigger family)… but having said that, there was one time that the timing belt was always giving an irritating noise when each time I started the engine (as well sometimes the noise appeared at anytime it wants) and it was made laughable by my friends cause when they heard the noise, they knew that, it was my car who produced it and they knew that I have arrived home safely. Heh heh.
Loved that car, and I sold it at RM 20,000 and it was a good resale value…. And it has enabled me to drive Szuki Swift and my housemate a VIOS (he usd to drive Kelisa as well and he sold it at RM 22,000).
Heh heh. That would be all my dearest commentators….
Chow.
i ponder why exora and this perodua mpv has the same steering shape…both inspired by honda civic i guess…lol…
hmmm,but as for exora,many proton "lovers" seem to think that its 100% genuine idea by proton…..but the other day,when i went and saw the exora at a roadshow in seremban,i think they have been "inspired" by honda a lot…eerrrr…please dont call me a basher k…i didnt say "copy"…as i rather use the term "inspire"…..
1) front lamp of exora reminds me of honda jazz….
2) back straight chrome line reminds me of a honda odyssey….
3) the steering….totally 100% inspired by honda civic…..
4) the metal part like which has a brushed look on the dash board….reminded me of the same brushed look metal panel which is used inside a honda accord 3.5V6 ( the imported model )……………….
hmmmm…….perhaps the guy who designed exora was totally "inspired" by honda….well…malaysia boleh !!
[quote comment="232752"]i ponder why exora and this perodua mpv has the same steering shape…both inspired by honda civic i guess…lol…
hmmm,but as for exora,many proton "lovers" seem to think that its 100% genuine idea by proton…..but the other day,when i went and saw the exora at a roadshow in seremban,i think they have been "inspired" by honda a lot…eerrrr…please dont call me a basher k…i didnt say "copy"…as i rather use the term "inspire"…..
1) front lamp of exora reminds me of honda jazz….
2) back straight chrome line reminds me of a honda odyssey….
3) the steering….totally 100% inspired by honda civic…..
4) the metal part like which has a brushed look on the dash board….reminded me of the same brushed look metal panel which is used inside a honda accord 3.5V6 ( the imported model )……………….
hmmmm…….perhaps the guy who designed exora was totally "inspired" by honda….well…malaysia boleh !![/quote]
dude..perhaps u are the one who blinded by honda….of course there are some benchmarking process during design stage, but proton not only study japs car, it is not as easy as copy paste la bro………i bet this guy the whole family bought honda cars……..if proton produce design very garang one, the said inspired by mustang or evo design, if design like makcik2 they said inspired by smart car….. ..haiyaaaa..
[quote comment="232548"]
I have gave you option 1 and option 2 and yes you still try to pusing-pusing eh? Good for you, have a nice day.[/quote]
not pusing pusing la…. it's just what kind of value are you looking for with that money… he's just justifying why he choose proton for value for money.. ^.^
[quote comment="232707"]any cars with 2 tone beige/black may look luxury and spacious
don't simply conned by the color
Exora with bright color scheme
http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/1778/dsc00344…. http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/3503/dsc00347k… http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/4686/dsc00346….
Betullah, Exora nampak mewah with that color combination but than is it practical with many small children on board?
I think Exora just want to be more practical for a normal big family.
Ouh ya.. btw… the option you gave kinda not opposite each other and unclear…
developed in house.. ( which in house? japan in house or malaysia in house?)
value for money.. (what kind of value are you looking for?)
and finally…. developed in house can be value for money as well….
so how to choose?
Talking about the stereng…
Exora stereng – Honda inspired (Civic, City, Jazz, Stream and Insight)
D46T stereng – also Honda inspired (Airwave) check this out:
http://www.honda.co.jp/AIRWAVE/interior/index.htm…
other than that…new Sorento stereng also Honda inspired (CRV). In conclusion Honda made a revolutionary 3 spoke sporty steering design and other makes use the concept to their own design.
Yes..I'm driving a Honda.
p/s: Dulu pernah pakai proton (kereta sendiri) & jugak perodua (kereta mak), sebab gaji cukup makan untuk beli 'National' make saja. Dua2 pun rebadged jugak..
[quote comment="232286"]nmpk sngat yg perodua ni gelojoh… bila proton nak kuarkan savvy.. sebok nk kuarkan myvi…bila proton nk kuarkan mpv plak, pun same nk kuarkan mpv… nmpak sangat perodua nie nk nk fight…agaknya klu proton nak kuarkan bajak sawah… pun perodua nie nk keluarkan bajak sawah gak…hahaha…. lu pikir la sendiri[/quote]
savvy??.. keter apa tu??.. aduss.. mesti menyesal kan bila 'terbeli kereta tu.. Proton dah kuar kan pun 'Bajak sawah' dia.. savvy tu kira cam bajak sawah laa.. kompius aku.. mana depan mana belakang… betul laa. ko kena balik study dulu bila nak buat comparison… cylinder head exora pun produa yang supply.. tanya dulu beb..
[quote comment="232766"][quote comment="232286"]nmpk sngat yg perodua ni gelojoh… bila proton nak kuarkan savvy.. sebok nk kuarkan myvi…bila proton nk kuarkan mpv plak, pun same nk kuarkan mpv… nmpak sangat perodua nie nk nk fight…agaknya klu proton nak kuarkan bajak sawah… pun perodua nie nk keluarkan bajak sawah gak…hahaha…. lu pikir la sendiri[/quote]
savvy??.. keter apa tu??.. aduss.. mesti menyesal kan bila 'terbeli kereta tu.. Proton dah kuar kan pun 'Bajak sawah' dia.. savvy tu kira cam bajak sawah laa.. kompius aku.. mana depan mana belakang… betul laa. ko kena balik study dulu bila nak buat comparison… cylinder head exora pun produa yang supply.. tanya dulu beb..[/quote]
ko yg study dulu beb…..thats what we call bussiness…proton pon pernah stamping body panel to perodua …… get ur facts rite dude or "beb"……haiyaaaa
Senang cerita la… Tak mau cerita pasal siapa owner perodua & proton kang ada yang kata tak baca buku..
kita cerita pasal struktur kereta..
Perodua memang berkualiti dari Proton design memang memenuhi citarasa orang malaysia..
Bagaimana boleh perodua memenuhi citarasa orang malaysia?? sebab semua kereta perodua telah berada dipasaran di negara lain dah lama.. struktur kereta dan enjin memang dah terbukti kebagusannya..
Manakala proton sekarang tidak mengambil srtuktur kereta lain sebaliknya buat sendiri. Prestasi tak tau kerana belum pernah berada dijalanraya..
Oleh yang demikian, perodua = NAZA. kenapa?? naza ambil kereta lain seperti pegeout 206 rebranding kereta dia.. Kia sorento rebranding kereta dia.. Kia Carnival rebranding jadi kereta dia..
Perodua ambil mira rebranding jadi kancil… Paso rebranding jadi Myvi..
Bezanya.. NAZA dimiliki oleh individu rakyat malaysia.. Perodua dimiliki oleh campuran orang malaysia dan jepun..
Hehehehe.. 2 kupang ku..
tanpa ragu aku pilih exora dari perodua (???) sebab:
1) exora lebih luas..
2) interior dgn extrior lebih menarik… (bg aku interior p2 ni nampak boring.. ini pendapat aku)
3) tempat letak air pun mcm xde je (mcm ade kat speaker depan..apesal letak situ?) .. kat exora bersepah tmpat letak/sangkut air.. glovebox pun bersepah.. (aku suke letak banyak brg dlm kereta)
4) rasenye exora lagi value for money… (praktikaliti, harga dan saiz)
5) at least aku rase lg selamat dgn exora.. (tgk crash test)
xde sebab aku nak beli small mpv nih.. alang2 baik beli yg besar terus..
tp, tu hak individu.. so terpulang lah..
[quote comment="232789"]Senang cerita la… Tak mau cerita pasal siapa owner perodua & proton kang ada yang kata tak baca buku..
kita cerita pasal struktur kereta..
Perodua memang berkualiti dari Proton design memang memenuhi citarasa orang malaysia..
Bagaimana boleh perodua memenuhi citarasa orang malaysia?? sebab semua kereta perodua telah berada dipasaran di negara lain dah lama.. struktur kereta dan enjin memang dah terbukti kebagusannya..
Manakala proton sekarang tidak mengambil srtuktur kereta lain sebaliknya buat sendiri. Prestasi tak tau kerana belum pernah berada dijalanraya..
Oleh yang demikian, perodua = NAZA. kenapa?? naza ambil kereta lain seperti pegeout 206 rebranding kereta dia.. Kia sorento rebranding kereta dia.. Kia Carnival rebranding jadi kereta dia..
Perodua ambil mira rebranding jadi kancil… Paso rebranding jadi Myvi..
Bezanya.. NAZA dimiliki oleh individu rakyat malaysia.. Perodua dimiliki oleh campuran orang malaysia dan jepun..
Hehehehe.. 2 kupang ku..[/quote]
tu sebab diorang buat road test dulu baru kluarkan kereta.. aduuuhhhhh…
[quote comment="232766"]
savvy??.. keter apa tu??.. aduss.. mesti menyesal kan bila 'terbeli kereta tu.. Proton dah kuar kan pun 'Bajak sawah' dia.. savvy tu kira cam bajak sawah laa.. kompius aku.. mana depan mana belakang… betul laa. ko kena balik study dulu bila nak buat comparison… cylinder head exora pun produa yang supply.. tanya dulu beb..[/quote]
Sebenarnya, seorang dari ahli keluarga aku menyesal kerana 'terbeli Myvi' sebab terlalu dgr cakap org yg savvy tu byk problem.. Apabila dah terbeli myvi tu, belum setahun pakai pun ada problem powerwindow jugak.. tapi masalah kecik je kan? tapi ada jugak 'major problem'.. ahli keluarga aku tu ada berkawan dgn seorang pemilik savvy.. apabila secara tidak sengaja 'ter-test drive' savvy, persepsi dia terus berubah ttg keta tu.. timbul pulak rasa menyesal apabila dia tanya kwn dia tu sama ada savvy tu ada masalah tapi kwn dia tu cuma menjawab, so far no problemo, tapi dah lebih 1 tahun dah dia pakai savvy… yg aku heran, kenapa dia tak tanya pendapat kwn dia yg pakai savvy ttg keta tu.. tetapi dia tanya kwn pendapat dia yg pakai viva dan tanya ttg savvy…
kalo ko nak tahu mcm mana nak bezakan depan dan belakang bajak sawah? kalo tayar besar mesti tayar belakang..
cylinder head tu cuma supply, tapi bukan design.. design asal cylinder head CamPro tu Proton yg punya hasil kerjasama dgn Lotus.. kalo dah supply, mesti Proton bayar kat Perodua, bukan mintak diaorg tolong free… cuba tanya org dulu beb…
[quote comment="232766"][quote comment="232286"]nmpk sngat yg perodua ni gelojoh… bila proton nak kuarkan savvy.. sebok nk kuarkan myvi…bila proton nk kuarkan mpv plak, pun same nk kuarkan mpv… nmpak sangat perodua nie nk nk fight…agaknya klu proton nak kuarkan bajak sawah… pun perodua nie nk keluarkan bajak sawah gak…hahaha…. lu pikir la sendiri[/quote]
savvy??.. keter apa tu??.. aduss.. mesti menyesal kan bila 'terbeli kereta tu.. Proton dah kuar kan pun 'Bajak sawah' dia.. savvy tu kira cam bajak sawah laa.. kompius aku.. mana depan mana belakang… betul laa. ko kena balik study dulu bila nak buat comparison… cylinder head exora pun produa yang supply.. tanya dulu beb..[/quote]
Nak kata bodoh, boleh baca. Nak kata bangang pun bleh gak. Pergi belajar dulu sebelum nak kutuk. Tah memana fakta ceduk tak tau lah. Tau hentam aje. Kau dapat kat ah beng jual ikan kat belakang umah kau tak ?. Sama aje. Erk savvy bajak sawah, eh berbudi kepada tanah tu. Kancil keranda bergerak, salah satu penyebab kematian di malaysia. Head ko je produa supply kat ko. Kesian tak tau fakta sebenar. Buta dalam terang.
[quote comment="232678"]haha.
my brother who is working in perodua as an assistan general manager said that,
this PERODUA will be coming with a 1.6 litre engine taken from a toyota altis and alos with a 1.8 turbo diesel.
they are still dealing with toyota right now for the engine.
the 1.8 turbodiesel will produce a whopping 176 hp and this car is rear wheel drive.
damn!
i bet it can smoke the exora!
nyehahhaha![/quote]
Hmmm, I have uncle too..working as manager at Daihatsu Plant, Japan. He said P2 very brilliant. Assemble daihatsu cars at cheap cost (really cheap!), slap a P2 badge, carry over daihatsu's engines, but sell very expensive. Malaysian conned, and the P2 workers gets 6 months bonus every year (eventhough NottyCar didn't get much sales..haha).
Oh ya, my uncle also said "Current Myvi material thickness has been downgraded from the original version..(cut cost & more profit!!) ..try comparing 1st gen Myvi, with current Myvi..u'll see the different..
p2 Mpv just suitable for women, just look at the adverts at Japan..they only use nice looking girls..same like vios dugong time..
my lil brother working at proton said diesel engine is on the way..maybe end of year, or early next year..oh and my cousin at P2 also said, next year P2 making lorries..with 1.5cc engine!! yeah
hahahaha! everyone talks about relatives working at P1 la, P2 la..but none of them actually buys the car..all end up driving merc, bmw…. :P
majavaz said,
April 22, 2009 @ 9:49 am · Reply with quote
kereta_semput wrote:
Senang cerita la… Tak mau cerita pasal siapa owner perodua & proton kang ada yang kata tak baca buku..
kita cerita pasal struktur kereta..
Perodua memang berkualiti dari Proton design memang memenuhi citarasa orang malaysia..
Bagaimana boleh perodua memenuhi citarasa orang malaysia?? sebab semua kereta perodua telah berada dipasaran di negara lain dah lama.. struktur kereta dan enjin memang dah terbukti kebagusannya..
Manakala proton sekarang tidak mengambil srtuktur kereta lain sebaliknya buat sendiri. Prestasi tak tau kerana belum pernah berada dijalanraya..
Oleh yang demikian, perodua = NAZA. kenapa?? naza ambil kereta lain seperti pegeout 206 rebranding kereta dia.. Kia sorento rebranding kereta dia.. Kia Carnival rebranding jadi kereta dia..
Perodua ambil mira rebranding jadi kancil… Paso rebranding jadi Myvi..
Bezanya.. NAZA dimiliki oleh individu rakyat malaysia.. Perodua dimiliki oleh campuran orang malaysia dan jepun..
Hehehehe.. 2 kupang ku..
tu sebab diorang buat road test dulu baru kluarkan kereta.. aduuuhhhhh…
……………………..
True.. but adakah kita selalu membandingkan enjin produa & enjin Proton?? selalunya tidak.. kita hanya membandingkan interior & Exterior sahaja..
lagi satu.. road test… passo, mira dan sebangainya dia bukan sahaja dah buat road test sayang.. tapi dah dipasarkan dan digunakan bertahun2 dijepun.. Proton buat road test je entah berapa bula.. jalan sayang bandingkan kereta yang dah lama berada dipasaran dengan baru nak keluar dipasaran..
Model perodua (dahulunya dari flatform kereta jepun) dah lama makan garam.. kereta proton baru setahun jagung..
the audio unit better than myvi audio unit.. p2, change la myvi punya radio, huduh (especially facelift ver)..
[quote comment="232682"]more perodua mpv & videos at
http://funtastickodesign.wordpress.com/2009/04/21…
waah.. P2 redesign 3rd row seat.. no more 'PAPAN' design… but it's still remain flat… if there no rear row a/c blower then, the 3rd row will become 'a moving microwave' due to hot weather in Malaysia..
[quote comment="232680"]
bro u sound u know every thing.. u know what.. when proton develope exora they do benchmaking with not only avanza and livina.. but also this upcoming perodua.. passo sette is oredi in the market almost ayear..
they studied strenght and weaknesses of sette and thet know what sette can and can't offer…
don't simply hentam la[/quote]
yes i do agree with u peYno.. and if i'm not mistaken, DZA was a former P2 man, am i right? if yes, that mean this man noe what the P2's weakness point..
[quote comment="232766"]
savvy??.. keter apa tu??.. aduss.. mesti menyesal kan bila 'terbeli kereta tu.. Proton dah kuar kan pun 'Bajak sawah' dia.. savvy tu kira cam bajak sawah laa.. kompius aku.. mana depan mana belakang… betul laa. ko kena balik study dulu bila nak buat comparison… cylinder head exora pun produa yang supply.. tanya dulu beb..[/quote]
Bro., walaupun aku xpakai savvy, tp aku dh drive "kete bajak" ni.
Bro. dh drive ke? kalu blum, sila la driv. bes woo! :)
Myvi, kancil, viva sume aku dh drive.
Mmgla rupa xde, tp "kete bajak" ni stabil time laju, cornering bes, braking ok.
sbb saiz dia kecik, bawa savvy ni rasa cm bawa go-kart.
Bro. pnh lumba go-kart? try bw go-kart laju2, corner kasi abis.
itu macam la dia punya "feel".
ckp byk pn xguna kalu xtry, kn? kn? ;)
agak2nye nape cylinder head exora proton xbuat sendiri?
proton xreti buat ke? atau pn mmg ada agreement antara proton&perodua supaya perodua boleh fully utilizes factory dia?
psl exora vs d46t ni, biar d46t official launch dulu br ble consider.
tp sama cm exora dulu la, org mmg sceptic sket psl enjin dia.
exora 1.6l, d46t 1.5l (ada forummer kata tgh nego utk 1.6l & 1.8l).
interior exora pn aku tgk ok. ada tekstur yg cantik.
wait n see.
psl abs ebd bla bla bla.
kalu body xkukuh, xguna gak.
body xkukuh, time crash airbag deploy, tp dashboard dh smpi ke muka, ape cte? (youtube crash test china car).
persaingan proton-perodua mmg akn hebat.
kita pengguna la yg untung, kn? :D
ps: aku xsabo nk tunggu kete kecik usahasama proton-mitsubishi.
[quote comment="232802"]majavaz said,
April 22, 2009 @ 9:49 am · Reply with quote
kereta_semput wrote:
Senang cerita la… Tak mau cerita pasal siapa owner perodua & proton kang ada yang kata tak baca buku..
kita cerita pasal struktur kereta..
Perodua memang berkualiti dari Proton design memang memenuhi citarasa orang malaysia..
Bagaimana boleh perodua memenuhi citarasa orang malaysia?? sebab semua kereta perodua telah berada dipasaran di negara lain dah lama.. struktur kereta dan enjin memang dah terbukti kebagusannya..
Manakala proton sekarang tidak mengambil srtuktur kereta lain sebaliknya buat sendiri. Prestasi tak tau kerana belum pernah berada dijalanraya..
Oleh yang demikian, perodua = NAZA. kenapa?? naza ambil kereta lain seperti pegeout 206 rebranding kereta dia.. Kia sorento rebranding kereta dia.. Kia Carnival rebranding jadi kereta dia..
Perodua ambil mira rebranding jadi kancil… Paso rebranding jadi Myvi..
Bezanya.. NAZA dimiliki oleh individu rakyat malaysia.. Perodua dimiliki oleh campuran orang malaysia dan jepun..
Hehehehe.. 2 kupang ku..
tu sebab diorang buat road test dulu baru kluarkan kereta.. aduuuhhhhh…
……………………..
True.. but adakah kita selalu membandingkan enjin produa & enjin Proton?? selalunya tidak.. kita hanya membandingkan interior & Exterior sahaja..
lagi satu.. road test… passo, mira dan sebangainya dia bukan sahaja dah buat road test sayang.. tapi dah dipasarkan dan digunakan bertahun2 dijepun.. Proton buat road test je entah berapa bula.. jalan sayang bandingkan kereta yang dah lama berada dipasaran dengan baru nak keluar dipasaran..
Model perodua (dahulunya dari flatform kereta jepun) dah lama makan garam.. kereta proton baru setahun jagung..[/quote]
ko dah pernah terlibat dalam kemalangan ke belum?..
aku tau la ko je tau yang produa=daihatsu=toyota=scion=subaru pun ade=lexus…
look at chinese market la idiota.. how many their 'rakyat' compared to malaysian 'rakyat'?
you want proton to produce its own 3.0 engine then how many 'rakyat' will buy? 3orang? kahkahkahkah!!
IF malaysia does have 'rakyat' la.. kahkahkahkah!! malaysian people oso dont want to buy malaysian product we called it 'rakyat' ke? kahkahkahkah!!
go migrate la y'all..
[quote comment="232680"][quote comment="232396"]The selling point of P2 mpv would be the interior and the exterior….. way much nicer than exora…… who cares whether it is slightly smaller, the engine is sufficient to produce enough horsepower and torque if you take into account the size and the weight. Most important thing is the "look" of the vehicle and with reliable parts. Would you drive a bigger vehicle but ugly or a smaller in size but look nice? think about it… i think proton should take this into account before they came out with exora. If exora has the interior and the exterior of P2 new mpv and with 1.6 engine producing 125hp, I think P1 will definitely get better reception from the market share and P2 will have hard time to compete with Proton.
Way to go Perodua…… not owning any P2 and not a P2 fan though. But will take into account of getting one as a second car after seeing the real thing on the road. Pricewise, really attarctive if they can make it below 66K.[/quote]
In malaysia.. SIZE DOES MATTER.. who cares better ride handling but small ( this comment come from myvi owner hentam savvy)
bro u sound u know every thing.. u know what.. when proton develope exora they do benchmaking with not only avanza and livina.. but also this upcoming perodua.. passo sette is oredi in the market almost ayear..
they studied strenght and weaknesses of sette and thet know what sette can and can't offer…
don't simply hentam la[/quote]
Hello Bro, it was came out on DEC 2008 before Christmas lar~~~
Didn't u read PAULTAN's Automobile News?
So, I wonder how did they do benchmarking with it if Proton didn't buy a Passo Sette from JAPAN/OVERSEA to do benchmarking at here?
Did they buy Passo Sette also? Maybe NO…
[quote comment="232680"][quote comment="232396"]The selling point of P2 mpv would be the interior and the exterior….. way much nicer than exora…… who cares whether it is slightly smaller, the engine is sufficient to produce enough horsepower and torque if you take into account the size and the weight. Most important thing is the "look" of the vehicle and with reliable parts. Would you drive a bigger vehicle but ugly or a smaller in size but look nice? think about it… i think proton should take this into account before they came out with exora. If exora has the interior and the exterior of P2 new mpv and with 1.6 engine producing 125hp, I think P1 will definitely get better reception from the market share and P2 will have hard time to compete with Proton.
Way to go Perodua…… not owning any P2 and not a P2 fan though. But will take into account of getting one as a second car after seeing the real thing on the road. Pricewise, really attarctive if they can make it below 66K.[/quote]
In malaysia.. SIZE DOES MATTER.. who cares better ride handling but small ( this comment come from myvi owner hentam savvy)
bro u sound u know every thing.. u know what.. when proton develope exora they do benchmaking with not only avanza and livina.. but also this upcoming perodua.. passo sette is oredi in the market almost ayear..
they studied strenght and weaknesses of sette and thet know what sette can and can't offer…
don't simply hentam la[/quote]
Hello Bro, it was came out on DEC 2008 before Christmas lar~~~
Didn't u read PAULTAN's Automobile News?
So, I wonder how did they do benchmarking with it if Proton didn't buy a Passo Sette from JAPAN/OVERSEA to do benchmarking at here?
Did they(Proton) buy Passo Sette to do benchmarking? NO…
[quote comment="232766"][quote comment="232286"]nmpk sngat yg perodua ni gelojoh… bila proton nak kuarkan savvy.. sebok nk kuarkan myvi…bila proton nk kuarkan mpv plak, pun same nk kuarkan mpv… nmpak sangat perodua nie nk nk fight…agaknya klu proton nak kuarkan bajak sawah… pun perodua nie nk keluarkan bajak sawah gak…hahaha…. lu pikir la sendiri[/quote]
savvy??.. keter apa tu??.. aduss.. mesti menyesal kan bila 'terbeli kereta tu.. Proton dah kuar kan pun 'Bajak sawah' dia.. savvy tu kira cam bajak sawah laa.. kompius aku.. mana depan mana belakang… betul laa. ko kena balik study dulu bila nak buat comparison… cylinder head exora pun produa yang supply.. tanya dulu beb..[/quote]
Apasal confuse. my three years old daughter never confuse mana depan dan mana belakang. menyesal coz buying a safer and a better handling car???
safe fuel also
[quote comment="232766"][quote comment="232286"]nmpk sngat yg perodua ni gelojoh… bila proton nak kuarkan savvy.. sebok nk kuarkan myvi…bila proton nk kuarkan mpv plak, pun same nk kuarkan mpv… nmpak sangat perodua nie nk nk fight…agaknya klu proton nak kuarkan bajak sawah… pun perodua nie nk keluarkan bajak sawah gak…hahaha…. lu pikir la sendiri[/quote]
savvy??.. keter apa tu??.. aduss.. mesti menyesal kan bila 'terbeli kereta tu.. Proton dah kuar kan pun 'Bajak sawah' dia.. savvy tu kira cam bajak sawah laa.. kompius aku.. mana depan mana belakang… betul laa. ko kena balik study dulu bila nak buat comparison… cylinder head exora pun produa yang supply.. tanya dulu beb..[/quote]
kahkahkah.. ni lagi satu.. toyota vios tu kau tau pulak mana depan mana belakang. kahkahkahkah!!
cylinder head perodua supply? hahahahah!! steering wheel dengan logo pun amek masa 10bulan nak buat inikan silinder head?
KAHKAHKAHKAHKAH!!
memang sah kau yang kena baca buku!
[quote comment="232802"]True.. but adakah kita selalu membandingkan enjin produa & enjin Proton?? selalunya tidak.. kita hanya membandingkan interior & Exterior sahaja..
lagi satu.. road test… passo, mira dan sebangainya dia bukan sahaja dah buat road test sayang.. tapi dah dipasarkan dan digunakan bertahun2 dijepun.. Proton buat road test je entah berapa bula.. jalan sayang bandingkan kereta yang dah lama berada dipasaran dengan baru nak keluar dipasaran..
Model perodua (dahulunya dari flatform kereta jepun) dah lama makan garam.. kereta proton baru setahun jagung..[/quote]
tapi ini diaorg rebadge model sette thn 2009.. tak tahu lagi reliability model toyota dlm bentuk ni sebab road test sette/luminas pun mesti dlm berbulan je.. mira dan passo dah dipasarkan bertahun-tahun.. ya kita org tahu ni..
Proton buat road test Exora dlm berbulan je, tapi enjin Campro dah bertahun dah.. upgarde IAFM, proton test lagi, upgrade CPS mesti diaorg perform test.. mmg baru lagi CamPro tu, tapi kecil jgn disangka anak la sayang.. belum pernah kami org dgr yg enjin CamPro tercabut cylinder head ke, meletup ke.. leaking tu mmg ada, enjin toyota pun ada leaking.. sebab tu diaorg perform test utk mengkaji lagi kelemahan yg masih wujud..
Kelemahan Proton ialah, org masih menganggap ia masih setahun jagung, teknologi masih lemah.. so jgn support.. So, apabila kita cakap, bagi Proton peluang sebab ia baru setahun jagung, jadi org akan cakap, sampai bila nak merangkak kalo tidak mencuba.. apabila Proton mencuba berdiri sendiri utk membangunkan teknologi, dan cuba kereta terbaru dgn teknologi terbaru diaorg, org akan berbalik cakap, Proton baru setahun jagung, teknologi masih lembab..
so,bila nak maju kalo mcm ni?
Ala sayang jalan la marah..
tak kisah la perodua milik siapa pun sebab focus topic adalah struktur kereta.
ianya fakta.. pilihan membeli masing2 dan pandulah berhati-hati dan ingatlah pemandu lain yang berada didepan, belakang, kiri dan kanan anda.
[quote comment="232836"]Ala sayang jalan la marah..
tak kisah la perodua milik siapa pun sebab focus topic adalah struktur kereta.
ianya fakta.. pilihan membeli masing2 dan pandulah berhati-hati dan ingatlah pemandu lain yang berada didepan, belakang, kiri dan kanan anda.[/quote]
but somebody confuse whether he/she is in the fornt or at the back of savvy…
HAHAHHA what a joke…
I really can't stand those 'Avanza-like" aircon knobs… but they are everywhere! in the Vios too… sigh. Macam tayar from Pasar Malam tractor toy…
[quote comment="232836"]Ala sayang jalan la marah..
tak kisah la perodua milik siapa pun sebab focus topic adalah struktur kereta.
ianya fakta.. pilihan membeli masing2 dan pandulah berhati-hati dan ingatlah pemandu lain yang berada didepan, belakang, kiri dan kanan anda.[/quote]
ape struktur kereta? ape? …
aku bukan marah.. tp ko bercakap seolah2 kereta proton x selamat.. baru setahun jagung.. kereta yg laku dipasaran x semsttinya lebih bagus.. semua kereta ade pros n contra.. casis proton pun lotus design.. kalau lotus x bagus x perlu la nissan panggil dia untuk mantapkan handling GTR..
kemalangan adalah sesuatu ko x dapat elakkan.. semua bergantung pada nasib/ajal dsbg… tp perlukah aku ambik risiko pada kereta yg corner 120kmj pun dah nak melayang?.. in fact savvy lebih stabil dari myvi.. underpower?.. aku rase enjin campro dah cukup laju..
berbalik kepada mpv.. bukan aku ckp p2 ni x bagus.. tp dia x offer aku option yg seperti exora bagi.. setakat weight ratio.. engine capability aku xde kisah sebab bukan nak buat racing pun mpv ni.. just dalam perjalanan, big capacity engine perlu utuk senang memotong.. itu yg perlu mase buat road test.. crash test ape semua.. bukan kereta tu dah ade lama dipasaran ko dah ckp kereta tu bagus.. SO pandu uji dulu baru cakap…
sebab p2 apename ni dari platform sirion/passo aku rase x jauh beza handling dia dgn myvi..
[quote comment="232844"][quote comment="232836"]Ala sayang jalan la marah..
tak kisah la perodua milik siapa pun sebab focus topic adalah struktur kereta.
ianya fakta.. pilihan membeli masing2 dan pandulah berhati-hati dan ingatlah pemandu lain yang berada didepan, belakang, kiri dan kanan anda.[/quote]
but somebody confuse whether he/she is in the fornt or at the back of savvy…
HAHAHHA what a joke…[/quote]
Kah kah kah kah kah.. Joke of the day.
Hello, Perodua's DVVT is same with Toyota's VVTI, so why need any development statements of this DVVT?
They are sharing platform, so no worry about it as the DVVT is not a home made engine.
[quote comment="232423"][quote comment="232282"]If indeed this is the end result of the on-the-road D46T, then I would say that this looks MUCH better than the Exora Interior.[/quote]
I totally agreed with your point of view here.
The dashboard of Exora is way toooooooo~~~~ UGLY, especially the dashboard above the dashboard, which looks like the mould machine for the dashboard spoilt or something, and cannot make it smooth, I'm really quite dissapointed with the interior of the Exora after I watched it in real eye, the interior juz… Lack of Imagination for a young guy like me over its Interior and Exterior design and probally it suits better with Elderly people, but who knows? The Exora is really SUCKS to design a dashboard like this bcoz, u'll always notice ur dashboard once u get into the car and the dashboard colour that used inside the car is aging colour of GREY, I personally hate the Stupid GREY COLOUR that used inside a car (Even the 2008 facelifted Version Myvi also use grey) DON"T EVER USE GREY COLOUR INSIDE A CAR, it'll make u drive a new exterior car but with a OLD COLOUR AND DESIGN that makes ur new car looks as junk as a useless CRAP.
Way to go D46T New Perodua MPV, Don't forget about the SAFETY FEATURES arrhhh~~~~[/quote]
Yeap, Exora dash looks outdated, but self purpose. I reckon perodua later will change the player DIN again, just like what they done to MyVi DIN (so called waste of design effort)
[quote comment="232831"][quote comment="232766"][quote comment="232286"]nmpk sngat yg perodua ni gelojoh… bila proton nak kuarkan savvy.. sebok nk kuarkan myvi…bila proton nk kuarkan mpv plak, pun same nk kuarkan mpv… nmpak sangat perodua nie nk nk fight…agaknya klu proton nak kuarkan bajak sawah… pun perodua nie nk keluarkan bajak sawah gak…hahaha…. lu pikir la sendiri[/quote]
savvy??.. keter apa tu??.. aduss.. mesti menyesal kan bila 'terbeli kereta tu.. Proton dah kuar kan pun 'Bajak sawah' dia.. savvy tu kira cam bajak sawah laa.. kompius aku.. mana depan mana belakang… betul laa. ko kena balik study dulu bila nak buat comparison… cylinder head exora pun produa yang supply.. tanya dulu beb..[/quote]
kahkahkah.. ni lagi satu.. toyota vios tu kau tau pulak mana depan mana belakang. kahkahkahkah!!
cylinder head perodua supply? hahahahah!! steering wheel dengan logo pun amek masa 10bulan nak buat inikan silinder head?
KAHKAHKAHKAHKAH!!
memang sah kau yang kena baca buku![/quote]
p2 buat (mold.assmbl.bla bla) enjin cps utk proton. tolong buat je. bukan design. no rnd. sbb proton tak menang tangan.
[quote comment="232761"]Talking about the stereng…
Exora stereng – Honda inspired (Civic, City, Jazz, Stream and Insight)
D46T stereng – also Honda inspired (Airwave) check this out:
http://www.honda.co.jp/AIRWAVE/interior/index.htm…
waah… look like Exora centre a/c blower vents also inspired from Airwave!! haha.. doubt about it? comments are welcome…. :)
Look like P2 try to make a lot cup holders in this mpv.. :) ..but, what about teh tarik hook? rear a/c blowers? BCM (body control module)? hydroforming frame?
If perodua really release this model, proton exora sure gg liao
[quote comment="232859"][quote comment="232831"][quote comment="232766"][quote comment="232286"]nmpk sngat yg perodua ni gelojoh… bila proton nak kuarkan savvy.. sebok nk kuarkan myvi…bila proton nk kuarkan mpv plak, pun same nk kuarkan mpv… nmpak sangat perodua nie nk nk fight…agaknya klu proton nak kuarkan bajak sawah… pun perodua nie nk keluarkan bajak sawah gak…hahaha…. lu pikir la sendiri[/quote]
savvy??.. keter apa tu??.. aduss.. mesti menyesal kan bila 'terbeli kereta tu.. Proton dah kuar kan pun 'Bajak sawah' dia.. savvy tu kira cam bajak sawah laa.. kompius aku.. mana depan mana belakang… betul laa. ko kena balik study dulu bila nak buat comparison… cylinder head exora pun produa yang supply.. tanya dulu beb..[/quote]
kahkahkah.. ni lagi satu.. toyota vios tu kau tau pulak mana depan mana belakang. kahkahkahkah!!
cylinder head perodua supply? hahahahah!! steering wheel dengan logo pun amek masa 10bulan nak buat inikan silinder head?
KAHKAHKAHKAHKAH!!
memang sah kau yang kena baca buku![/quote]
p2 buat (mold.assmbl.bla bla) enjin cps utk proton. tolong buat je. bukan design. no rnd. sbb proton tak menang tangan.[/quote]
Biasa la.. dah trend zaman sekarang untuk jimat cost.. dari beli mesin mold baik upah atau sewa mesin mold orang.. bukan je proton, banyak kilang lain pun buat gitu antaranya Panasonic buat mold untuk kilang lain.
[quote comment="232316"][quote comment="232286"]nmpk sngat yg perodua ni gelojoh… bila proton nak kuarkan savvy.. sebok nk kuarkan myvi…bila proton nk kuarkan mpv plak, pun same nk kuarkan mpv… nmpak sangat perodua nie nk nk fight…agaknya klu proton nak kuarkan bajak sawah… pun perodua nie nk keluarkan bajak sawah gak…hahaha…. lu pikir la sendiri[/quote]
kalau rajin bace buku, kau paham ape maksud bisnes..cmtuh kt msia ade satu je la kedai mkn eh? sbb org lain x leh wat kedai mkn bak kate kau? btul? savvy dan myvi compete pada market yg berlainan ok..kalao nk ckp savvy n viva aku setuju..sile dapatkan info yg betul sebelum berkata2..lu pikir la sendiri.[/quote]
ha, kan dah kene sebijik. Nak bagi komen pung, bagi le yang membina. Mcm tak belajar ekonomi le kau ni.
[quote comment="232830"][quote comment="232766"][quote comment="232286"]nmpk sngat yg perodua ni gelojoh… bila proton nak kuarkan savvy.. sebok nk kuarkan myvi…bila proton nk kuarkan mpv plak, pun same nk kuarkan mpv… nmpak sangat perodua nie nk nk fight…agaknya klu proton nak kuarkan bajak sawah… pun perodua nie nk keluarkan bajak sawah gak…hahaha…. lu pikir la sendiri[/quote]
savvy??.. keter apa tu??.. aduss.. mesti menyesal kan bila 'terbeli kereta tu.. Proton dah kuar kan pun 'Bajak sawah' dia.. savvy tu kira cam bajak sawah laa.. kompius aku.. mana depan mana belakang… betul laa. ko kena balik study dulu bila nak buat comparison… cylinder head exora pun produa yang supply.. tanya dulu beb..[/quote]
Apasal confuse. my three years old daughter never confuse mana depan dan mana belakang. menyesal coz buying a safer and a better handling car???
safe fuel also[/quote]
maybe your 3years old daughter can teach dis poor guy mana satu savvy punya depan dan mana satu savvy punya belakang, kesian sama dia….
[quote comment="232921"][quote comment="232830"][quote comment="232766"][quote comment="232286"]nmpk sngat yg perodua ni gelojoh… bila proton nak kuarkan savvy.. sebok nk kuarkan myvi…bila proton nk kuarkan mpv plak, pun same nk kuarkan mpv… nmpak sangat perodua nie nk nk fight…agaknya klu proton nak kuarkan bajak sawah… pun perodua nie nk keluarkan bajak sawah gak…hahaha…. lu pikir la sendiri[/quote]
savvy??.. keter apa tu??.. aduss.. mesti menyesal kan bila 'terbeli kereta tu.. Proton dah kuar kan pun 'Bajak sawah' dia.. savvy tu kira cam bajak sawah laa.. kompius aku.. mana depan mana belakang… betul laa. ko kena balik study dulu bila nak buat comparison… cylinder head exora pun produa yang supply.. tanya dulu beb..[/quote]
Apasal confuse. my three years old daughter never confuse mana depan dan mana belakang. menyesal coz buying a safer and a better handling car???
safe fuel also[/quote]
maybe your 3years old daughter can teach dis poor guy mana satu savvy punya depan dan mana satu savvy punya belakang, kesian sama dia….[/quote]
Kesian… sampai budak 3 tahun nak kena ajar mamat nie… cikgu dia dulu aja apa kat sekolah dulu yek ?. Macam mana nak bajak sawah kot ?. ;/
right click>copy
Then paste wherever you want…
Live Exora!
as my personal opinion , i think perodua mpv interior is nicer …. i like middle part there… it look much more classy than exora …. is japanese style …. i kinda like it …. if the price is cheaper …. definitely more ppl will goes for this one …. stupid goverment increase the interest for the non national car and perodua car …. coz they expect everyone to buy they proton ?? everything tax here tax there …. is kinda bullshit ….. does we realli have to pay so much for a vios ?? look at thailand …. how much they cost for a vios ? …… we re using altis as somekind of high class car … look at thailand …. they re just using it as a taxi ….
just simply copy and paste could save 50% money from G tax structure.
Then modify with original parts as your wish.
More value for your hard earned money + Developed in-house.
Live Myvi Sette.
[quote comment="232645"][quote comment="232624"] But i'm curious can someone tell me why is Malaysia here have very less American cars? I can see only Ford and Chevrolet on the road. Most of the ppl here drive European, Jap and Korean cars.[/quote]
kelvin… u know American all actual big & powerfull are importance. Please see Fast & Furios 1 & 4 also Discovery Turbo Channel for your referance. However this Ford & Chavy have long time in tanah melayu already. So it easy to sell coz of history & background. Contoh Ford Escort kat malaysia design nak sama dengan Ford Mustang kat America. Cuba google & compare persamaan. :)[/quote]
American kaya dan minyak murah bagi mereka, nak kereta besar, kuasa tinggi. tapi itu sudah jadi zaman bagi mereka.
[quote comment="232699"]They say Myvi = My vehicle
Why not call this Myco = My coffin
Haha.[/quote]
that's your coffin, haha.
mine is Mywish = My little wish
[quote comment="232818"][quote comment="232766"]
savvy??.. keter apa tu??.. aduss.. mesti menyesal kan bila 'terbeli kereta tu.. Proton dah kuar kan pun 'Bajak sawah' dia.. savvy tu kira cam bajak sawah laa.. kompius aku.. mana depan mana belakang… betul laa. ko kena balik study dulu bila nak buat comparison… cylinder head exora pun produa yang supply.. tanya dulu beb..[/quote]
Bro., walaupun aku xpakai savvy, tp aku dh drive "kete bajak" ni.
Bro. dh drive ke? kalu blum, sila la driv. bes woo! :)
Myvi, kancil, viva sume aku dh drive.
Mmgla rupa xde, tp "kete bajak" ni stabil time laju, cornering bes, braking ok.
sbb saiz dia kecik, bawa savvy ni rasa cm bawa go-kart.
Bro. pnh lumba go-kart? try bw go-kart laju2, corner kasi abis.
itu macam la dia punya "feel".
ckp byk pn xguna kalu xtry, kn? kn? ;)
agak2nye nape cylinder head exora proton xbuat sendiri?
proton xreti buat ke? atau pn mmg ada agreement antara proton&perodua supaya perodua boleh fully utilizes factory dia?
psl exora vs d46t ni, biar d46t official launch dulu br ble consider.
tp sama cm exora dulu la, org mmg sceptic sket psl enjin dia.
exora 1.6l, d46t 1.5l (ada forummer kata tgh nego utk 1.6l & 1.8l).
interior exora pn aku tgk ok. ada tekstur yg cantik.
wait n see.
psl abs ebd bla bla bla.
kalu body xkukuh, xguna gak.
body xkukuh, time crash airbag deploy, tp dashboard dh smpi ke muka, ape cte? (youtube crash test china car).
persaingan proton-perodua mmg akn hebat.
kita pengguna la yg untung, kn? :D
ps: aku xsabo nk tunggu kete kecik usahasama proton-mitsubishi.[/quote]
Ok,i drive savvy.and i drive myvi too..and i must say myvi is more lighter then savvy beside its 1.3L engine absolutely bigger then savvy 1.2 but drive myvi is ok in 80-100km/h range.the body will flying a bit and steering will gonna feel loose,no pricision and your high speed cruising will feel dangerous..but not while in savvy.and i usually cruised at 120km/h.takut kene saman lol..hehe.btw,you can speed at 160 in savvy with confident.persona also dont feel like savvy character..
during my 'Lawatan Kerja' to Proton Shah Alam in 2007, (actually thats a visit on air polution control equipment that fit on proton's paint shop line)..one of the engineer said proton shah alam did supply crankshaft for perodua..i dont know which model they supply to.
so i think, Perodua and Proton have a joint bussiness program.dont blindly bash each other.both of them are suplimentary..proton staff themself were also visit perodua plant to catch some methodology from perodua.btw, i think perodua must learn from proton to turn itself from being just an assembler to a trully car maker.then you think how's good malaysia have 2 real automaker and market them globally and bring along malaysia's name worldwide.
pray for that.
[quote comment="232816"]
waah.. P2 redesign 3rd row seat.. no more 'PAPAN' design… but it's still remain flat… if there no rear row a/c blower then, the 3rd row will become 'a moving microwave' due to hot weather in Malaysia..[/quote]
Totally agree with you. If they maintain only front blower like the Japanese version, the back row (especially the 3rd) will surely become damn hot like hell. This is Malaysia not Japan!
Kenapa warna dalam dia berbelang-belang?
Macam TAPIR je… takpun CIPAN.. em.. TENUK kot..
huhuhuu..
Kenape? Sape2 tolong la jawab
But for a small mpv such as this, dont think P2 will redesign the interior to fit in extra blowers. It encourages you not to drive at hot sun lol ..
[quote comment="232754"][quote comment="232752"]i ponder why exora and this perodua mpv has the same steering shape…both inspired by honda civic i guess…lol…
hmmm,but as for exora,many proton "lovers" seem to think that its 100% genuine idea by proton…..but the other day,when i went and saw the exora at a roadshow in seremban,i think they have been "inspired" by honda a lot…eerrrr…please dont call me a basher k…i didnt say "copy"…as i rather use the term "inspire"…..
1) front lamp of exora reminds me of honda jazz….
2) back straight chrome line reminds me of a honda odyssey….
3) the steering….totally 100% inspired by honda civic…..
4) the metal part like which has a brushed look on the dash board….reminded me of the same brushed look metal panel which is used inside a honda accord 3.5V6 ( the imported model )……………….
hmmmm…….perhaps the guy who designed exora was totally "inspired" by honda….well…malaysia boleh !![/quote]
dude..perhaps u are the one who blinded by honda….of course there are some benchmarking process during design stage, but proton not only study japs car, it is not as easy as copy paste la bro………i bet this guy the whole family bought honda cars……..if proton produce design very garang one, the said inspired by mustang or evo design, if design like makcik2 they said inspired by smart car….. ..haiyaaaa..[/quote]
ok,perhaps u are bashing me without a point here…all i told was,the designer was somehow been inspired by honda cars,and i think even in the previous thread,many were mentioning the same…and what is your problem if i own a honda,yes,i have a honda civic and a myvi,and my dad drives a accord…..so,if you cant afford to buy non-malaysian cars,dont talk too much….
u people,when somebody tells the truth,u people just can't accept the fact……
and proton copying mustang ? ya rite…how bout gen 2 which has a front which is similiar to MG rover..?
[quote comment="232990"]Kenapa warna dalam dia berbelang-belang?
Macam TAPIR je… takpun CIPAN.. em.. TENUK kot..
huhuhuu..
Kenape? Sape2 tolong la jawab[/quote]
yg tu 'colour tone' la..
ade monotone type & 2 tone type..
im a perodua supporter. BUT dis time, exora vs D46T i choose exora. viva vs saga i choose saga. myvi vs savvy i choose myvi. BTW paul, will proton come out wif new color scheme for saga? plan to buy saga but the colors not nice. and1 more thing, vios J is suck.dont even have automatic side mirror.too bad.
[quote comment="232713"][quote comment="232702"]Pendapat aku.. walaupun perodua keluar apa-apa jenis model sekali pun. aku tak pernah nak rasa bangga dengan keluaran mereka. sebab model mereka bukannya 100% malaysia. semua buatan toyota dan daihatsu cuma ada sedikit perubahan rekabentuk ikut citarasa malaysia. Pastu hanya pasang di Malaysia. Tak kiralah enjin ke, power window ke…etc.. Yang minat keluaran perodua ni, jenis yang suka buatan jepun cam toyota & daihatsu tapi x cukup bajet nakbeli sebab mahal…Kalu pergi mana-mana negara jiran cam indonesia, thailand boleh nampak model kereta2 sama di Malaysia ni tapi logo daihatsu & toyota.. so komen aku "hampeh" not truly malaysian made.[/quote]
Ni lagik sorang bahlul. Lenkali baca buku banyak2 la weii. Perodua ni, ramai company Jepun nak join venture sbb dorang ni aku rasa punya wawasan tersendiri. Sbb tu Toyota & Daihatsu brani melabur. Kalau dorang rasa Perodua ni xleh gi jauh, sah-sah dorang xnak berkawan pun. Lagi satu, kao tak baca paper ker? Company bertiga ni, mmg jalan projek sama-sama. Cuma bhgn luaran & dalaman jer yg ikut taste negara masing2! Kalau Perodua, dia kenalah ikot malaysia trend & taste. Bukan pakai main tampal dan sangkut jer…apa raaaa…! Sah2 mamat yg komen ni pakai kereta second hand jerk! cakap pandai, tapi tak tahu fakta..wat malu jer jadi org mesia! Aku yang pakai kereta import pun x pernah kutuk Perodua or Proton, malah aku bangga dgn persaingan sihat mereka. Masing2 punya citarasa laaa… Aku pun dah pernah pakai Myvi as second car and waja third car…so?? Apa problem?? Yang pentingnya, anak2 Malaysia ader hulur tangan utk buat kereta-kereta tuh. Tak kiralah berapa peratus, janji still dlm group yg wat kereta. Apa raaaaa…bahlul betol kao nih… Dah x suka, jgn kutuk beb…[/quote]
dah sah ko guna perodua sbb tue ko angin je aku keluarkan pendapat aku.. aku cuma nak krg pikir je.. buatan Malaysia 100% tanpa campur tangan ngan buatan malaysia ada share ngan ngan company luar..aku setuju memang mutu berbeza.. tapi at least yang 100% tue atas hasil usaha anak tempatan. walaupun enjin drg sekadar CPS je.. tetap itu hasil RND mereka. Yelah daripada ambil enjin luar je tapi x buat sendiri.. itu yang aku maksud kan… yang bahlul ye ko lah… hahah sbb aku pikir dari segi kepakaran dan support 100% kepintaran kerja anak watan. Bukan aku pikir dari segi jualan tapi menyekat kepakaran & RND anak watan…
[quote comment="232998"]But for a small mpv such as this, dont think P2 will redesign the interior to fit in extra blowers. It encourages you not to drive at hot sun lol ..[/quote]
I think they will because its not that hard. Even Avanza have one, sure Perodua MPV will have one.
[quote comment="232949"][quote comment="232645"][quote comment="232624"] But i'm curious can someone tell me why is Malaysia here have very less American cars? I can see only Ford and Chevrolet on the road. Most of the ppl here drive European, Jap and Korean cars.[/quote]
kelvin… u know American all actual big & powerfull are importance. Please see Fast & Furios 1 & 4 also Discovery Turbo Channel for your referance. However this Ford & Chavy have long time in tanah melayu already. So it easy to sell coz of history & background. Contoh Ford Escort kat malaysia design nak sama dengan Ford Mustang kat America. Cuba google & compare persamaan. :)[/quote]
American kaya dan minyak murah bagi mereka, nak kereta besar, kuasa tinggi. tapi itu sudah jadi zaman bagi mereka.[/quote]
Siapa cakap america kaya sekarang ni? siapa cakap minyak murah bagi mereka? kalo minyak murah je bagi mereka, masakan keta muscle car 400bhp kebangga mereka pada suatu ketika dulu pernah terhenti jualan gara-gara disebabkan faktor minyak mahal.. cuba ko google Tata Nano thread.. baca forum tu, agak byk forumer/ blogger org US tanya bila lagi Nano masuk ke pasaran US.. zaman sekarang mereka berjimat kerana harga minyak merupakan bebanan bagi mereka disebabkan oleh krisis ekonomi global.. org malaysia malu nak tanya pasal nano, tapi org US tanpa segan silu suruh Tata exports Nano masuk ke US.. tapi kena test NCAP dululah nampak gayanya..
ada orang beli kereta untuk kebanggaan, ada orang beli kereta untuk kegunaan, ada orang beli kereta untuk keluargaan. sila beli p1 untuk kebanggaan kamu diri sendiri. aku nak pilih kereta yang sesuai dan selamat bagi aku, orang lain dan binatang yang tengah melintas jalan raya. walaupun p2 bukan citarasa malaysia, tapi tetap buatan malaysia.
[quote comment="233034"][quote comment="232998"]But for a small mpv such as this, dont think P2 will redesign the interior to fit in extra blowers. It encourages you not to drive at hot sun lol ..[/quote]
I think they will because its not that hard. Even Avanza have one, sure Perodua MPV will have one.[/quote]
they want to put a blower ??? like typical cheapo van like Vannette and avanza??
[quote comment="233039"][quote comment="232949"][quote comment="232645"][quote comment="232624"] But i'm curious can someone tell me why is Malaysia here have very less American cars? I can see only Ford and Chevrolet on the road. Most of the ppl here drive European, Jap and Korean cars.[/quote]
kelvin… u know American all actual big & powerfull are importance. Please see Fast & Furios 1 & 4 also Discovery Turbo Channel for your referance. However this Ford & Chavy have long time in tanah melayu already. So it easy to sell coz of history & background. Contoh Ford Escort kat malaysia design nak sama dengan Ford Mustang kat America. Cuba google & compare persamaan. :)[/quote]
American kaya dan minyak murah bagi mereka, nak kereta besar, kuasa tinggi. tapi itu sudah jadi zaman bagi mereka.[/quote]
Siapa cakap america kaya sekarang ni? siapa cakap minyak murah bagi mereka? kalo minyak murah je bagi mereka, masakan keta muscle car 400bhp kebangga mereka pada suatu ketika dulu pernah terhenti jualan gara-gara disebabkan faktor minyak mahal.. cuba ko google Tata Nano thread.. baca forum tu, agak byk forumer/ blogger org US tanya bila lagi Nano masuk ke pasaran US.. zaman sekarang mereka berjimat kerana harga minyak merupakan bebanan bagi mereka disebabkan oleh krisis ekonomi global.. org malaysia malu nak tanya pasal nano, tapi org US tanpa segan silu suruh Tata exports Nano masuk ke US.. tapi kena test NCAP dululah nampak gayanya..[/quote]
sebab itu aku kata " tapi itu sudah jadi zaman bagi mereka(sekarang)". kilang kereta US sekarang tak sabar-sabar nak pelajari kereta jepun yang dulu diingatkan tin kosong(memang kereta jepun mula dari tin kosong). harap-harap US juga berminat dengan exora yang murah itu, paksa exora test NCAP, jadi pasti bertambah keyakinan terhadap exora daripada orang ramai.
okla tu engine 1.5 for mini mpv,bukan macam exora 1.6 body besar bagak.teringat keter wira 1.3 sedan abang aku dulu,masa awal2 best ar selamba bawak 160 kat hiway,sekarang boleh bawak laju….120 je la,minyak macam tangki bocor 3inch :p
papepun aku kagum both p2 n p1 mpv, more choice for rakyat.avanza pun sale dah teruk sangat,mmg padanla kuar baru under p2
[quote comment="233042"][quote comment="233034"][quote comment="232998"]But for a small mpv such as this, dont think P2 will redesign the interior to fit in extra blowers. It encourages you not to drive at hot sun lol ..[/quote]
I think they will because its not that hard. Even Avanza have one, sure Perodua MPV will have one.[/quote]
they want to put a blower ??? like typical cheapo van like Vannette and avanza??[/quote]
just put the usb connector, then we can plug a usb fan, many usb features can use too.
[quote comment="233042"][quote comment="233034"][quote comment="232998"]But for a small mpv such as this, dont think P2 will redesign the interior to fit in extra blowers. It encourages you not to drive at hot sun lol ..[/quote]
I think they will because its not that hard. Even Avanza have one, sure Perodua MPV will have one.[/quote]
they want to put a blower ??? like typical cheapo van like Vannette and avanza??[/quote]
It will be a suicide if they did. I guess they will design a better looking one. This is a "high volume" model, remember? Sure they can afford to spend some millions on that. If they do not, Exora will surely outsell them by far. This is Malaysia remember? Its damn hot here.
[quote comment="233043"]
sebab itu aku kata " tapi itu sudah jadi zaman bagi mereka(sekarang)". kilang kereta US sekarang tak sabar-sabar nak pelajari kereta jepun yang dulu diingatkan tin kosong(memang kereta jepun mula dari tin kosong). harap-harap US juga berminat dengan exora yang murah itu, paksa exora test NCAP, jadi pasti bertambah keyakinan terhadap exora daripada orang ramai.[/quote]
Ramai yg tahu keta Jepun pun bermula dgn tin kosong.. kalo nak dibandingkan pencapaian Proton dlm 25 thn, aku lebih rela memandu Exora daripada keta Toyota semasa company tu berusia 25 thn.. mmg tak patut dan tidal adil compare pencapaian zaman dulu dgn sekarang, tapi sama gak apabila org compare teknologi 80thn Toyota dgn teknologi Proton 25thn jagung…
[quote comment="233049"]
It will be a suicide if they did. I guess they will design a better looking one. This is a "high volume" model, remember? Sure they can afford to spend some millions on that. If they do not, Exora will surely outsell them by far. This is Malaysia remember? Its damn hot here.[/quote]
No doubt Exora will outsell P2 mpv if it's carrying "a moving microwave oven" as 3rd row new name..
Evetho p2 redesign the 3rd row seat, but it's still remain flat.. just wondering, how comfy it is.. and 3rd row leg room was very cramp.. i doubt Paul can sat in there comfortely.. :)
[quote comment="233057"][quote comment="233049"]
It will be a suicide if they did. I guess they will design a better looking one. This is a "high volume" model, remember? Sure they can afford to spend some millions on that. If they do not, Exora will surely outsell them by far. This is Malaysia remember? Its damn hot here.[/quote]
No doubt Exora will outsell P2 mpv if it's carrying "a moving microwave oven" as 3rd row new name..
Evetho p2 redesign the 3rd row seat, but it's still remain flat.. just wondering, how comfy it is.. and 3rd row leg room was very cramp.. i doubt Paul can sat in there comfortely.. :)[/quote]
I guess I'll wait for Honda Freed before making any decision.
[quote comment="233059"]
I guess I'll wait for Honda Freed before making any decision.[/quote]
i will support to you that have the decision to Honda Freed.
please look the Modulo FREED at Tokyo Auto Saloon 2009.
[quote comment="233054"]
Ramai yg tahu keta Jepun pun bermula dgn tin kosong.. kalo nak dibandingkan pencapaian Proton dlm 25 thn, aku lebih rela memandu Exora daripada keta Toyota semasa company tu berusia 25 thn.. mmg tak patut dan tidal adil compare pencapaian zaman dulu dgn sekarang, tapi sama gak apabila org compare teknologi 80thn Toyota dgn teknologi Proton 25thn jagung…[/quote]
teknologi lain dengan matematik yang campur tolak. teknologi ada terkini dan tertinggal zaman. apakata berbanding dengan toyota yang berusia 25 tahun(bertubuh pada tahun 1937), iaitu teknologi pada tahun 1962 yang tertinggal zaman dengan proton jagung terkini yang berusia 25 tahun pada tahun 2009. toyota keluar toyota Ipsum mpv pada usia 59 tahun(1996) tapi proton keluar mpv pada usia 25 tahun, proton pandai terbukti sudah menang.
The middle seat on the front row bring back old memory of classic mobile (like the American car). Nice for couple:)
I hope this car have crash test result as good as any recent Toyota/Daihatsu/ Perodua Myvi result. This is what Proton have only recently archieved with Exora (but I still suspected the speed they have tested on is slower, below 50km/h).
I have no doubt this new Perodua MPV will have better crash test than Exora given the resources & experience they have in Toyota & Daihatsu. It's a trend to nowaday to archieve 5 star NCAP. (Exora only can claim 4 stars). Myvi get 4 star NCAP too FYI:)
[quote comment="233093"]The middle seat on the front row bring back old memory of classic mobile (like the American car). Nice for couple:)
I hope this car have crash test result as good as any recent Toyota/Daihatsu/ Perodua Myvi result. This is what Proton have only recently archieved with Exora (but I still suspected the speed they have tested on is slower, below 50km/h).
I have no doubt this new Perodua MPV will have better crash test than Exora given the resources & experience they have in Toyota & Daihatsu. It's a trend to nowaday to archieve 5 star NCAP. (Exora only can claim 4 stars). Myvi get 4 star NCAP too FYI:)[/quote]
duh myvi where got NCAP test… if PASSO probably… not myvi… definitely!! btw proton have been achieving good crash test result started from savvy…. and for your information.. they dun test at low speed… go check NCAP site for speed of crash test and check in this PT side about exora test…
blind basher… read before comment…
[quote comment="232688"]from the pic now i know why perodua do the road test and been spyshot..
they invest almost 1 billion and spent 10 months to develope and design the steering and ac button… of coz the steering need to be tested.. that why they bawak road test
prrrfthhh[/quote]
Easy bro, they need to do the road test after stripping some internal parts, to see if the car will disintegrate at high speed..
[quote comment="233066"][quote comment="233059"]
I guess I'll wait for Honda Freed before making any decision.[/quote]
i will support to you that have the decision to Honda Freed.
please look the Modulo FREED at Tokyo Auto Saloon 2009.[/quote]
My friend S'poreian came to JB to see the Exora. He said that base on space, Exora is much nicer. Interior are good as Freed. Just sadly, he can't test drive the model since no test unit have yet at there. How ever he will go 1 more time again to test drive Exora & compare it with his wife freed. ;)
erk… satu lagi, sapa nak tengok sette pergi tengok kat singapore. kat sana dah start jual dah. boleh banding ngan D46T nanti. :)
[quote comment="233093"]The middle seat on the front row bring back old memory of classic mobile (like the American car). Nice for couple:)
I hope this car have crash test result as good as any recent Toyota/Daihatsu/ Perodua Myvi result. This is what Proton have only recently archieved with Exora (but I still suspected the speed they have tested on is slower, below 50km/h).
I have no doubt this new Perodua MPV will have better crash test than Exora given the resources & experience they have in Toyota & Daihatsu. It's a trend to nowaday to archieve 5 star NCAP. (Exora only can claim 4 stars). Myvi get 4 star NCAP too FYI:)[/quote]
alansmithz,
there is a rumor that say myvi's safety features are not the same as its other siblings (passo, boon, justy).
unless there is statement says otherwise, i think this rumor will be implanted in the mind.
if we youtube for passo-boon-myvi, the crashtests shown are of toyota, not perodua. u can notice the the difference in airbag, keep aside the exterior fittings.
[/quote]
Ramai yg tahu keta Jepun pun bermula dgn tin kosong.. kalo nak dibandingkan pencapaian Proton dlm 25 thn, aku lebih rela memandu Exora daripada keta Toyota semasa company tu berusia 25 thn.. mmg tak patut dan tidal adil compare pencapaian zaman dulu dgn sekarang, tapi sama gak apabila org compare teknologi 80thn Toyota dgn teknologi Proton 25thn jagung…[/quote]
Itu sebab ramai yang kata banding tahun dengan tahun dari segi pencapaian. Sebagai contoh, Toyota Corolla sudah jual lebih daripada 30 Million unit sejak perlancaran model ini. Itu baru salah satu daripada model mereka since you bawak Toyota ke sini. So, banding 25 tahun Toyota dengan 25 tahun kereta kita ? Di mana tapak kita sekarang ? 25 tahun banding 25 tahun dari segi pencapaian harga, qualiti, teknologi, permintaan dunia tentang jenama dan sebagainya.
[quote comment="233140"]
Itu sebab ramai yang kata banding tahun dengan tahun dari segi pencapaian. Sebagai contoh, Toyota Corolla sudah jual lebih daripada 30 Million unit sejak perlancaran model ini. Itu baru salah satu daripada model mereka since you bawak Toyota ke sini. So, banding 25 tahun Toyota dengan 25 tahun kereta kita ? Di mana tapak kita sekarang ? 25 tahun banding 25 tahun dari segi pencapaian harga, qualiti, teknologi, permintaan dunia tentang jenama dan sebagainya.[/quote]
aku setuju dgn argument ni.
namun, byk kene kaji semula argument ni.
achievement 25thn toyota & 25thn proton xsama.
proton mmg perlu mara agresif ke hadapan.
proton perlu bergerak seperti janjang geometri (geometric progression).
utk mara, proton perlukn support drp kita,
sama cm dulu toyota dpt support drp rakyat negara mereka.
aku xnmpk rakyat yg bersalah kerana xmembeli produk malaysia.
alangkah bagus kiranya org2 besar memberi sokongan & sebagai contoh dgn membeli produk keluaran negara.
mentaliti yg dijajah mmg lg sukar di"merdeka"kan.
proton, syabas kerana mampu membuat kenderaan sendiri!
perodua, berusaha lebih kuat agar satu hari nnt boleh keluar kenderaan sendiri!
[quote comment="233093"]The middle seat on the front row bring back old memory of classic mobile (like the American car). Nice for couple:)
I hope this car have crash test result as good as any recent Toyota/Daihatsu/ Perodua Myvi result. This is what Proton have only recently archieved with Exora (but I still suspected the speed they have tested on is slower, below 50km/h).
I have no doubt this new Perodua MPV will have better crash test than Exora given the resources & experience they have in Toyota & Daihatsu. It's a trend to nowaday to archieve 5 star NCAP. (Exora only can claim 4 stars). Myvi get 4 star NCAP too FYI:)[/quote]
pls don't joke here la….all perodua R&D did was Rebadge and Deliver…however the materials used here to assemble are of dirt cheap quality….no crash test done. You must be one of those ah bengs who bring their myvi to brothers to modify to passo badge and bodykit and then think it is a passo that can get 4 star ncap test.
wake up from you dream…
[quote comment="233048"][quote comment="233042"][quote comment="233034"][quote comment="232998"]But for a small mpv such as this, dont think P2 will redesign the interior to fit in extra blowers. It encourages you not to drive at hot sun lol ..[/quote]
I think they will because its not that hard. Even Avanza have one, sure Perodua MPV will have one.[/quote]
they want to put a blower ??? like typical cheapo van like Vannette and avanza??[/quote]
just put the usb connector, then we can plug a usb fan, many usb features can use too.[/quote]
But 3rd row seat where to find usb port ? lol .. the blower i meant is the aircond blower not the fan like old teksi la haha ..
[quote comment="233178"][quote comment="233048"][quote comment="233042"][quote comment="233034"][quote comment="232998"]But for a small mpv such as this, dont think P2 will redesign the interior to fit in extra blowers. It encourages you not to drive at hot sun lol ..[/quote]
I think they will because its not that hard. Even Avanza have one, sure Perodua MPV will have one.[/quote]
they want to put a blower ??? like typical cheapo van like Vannette and avanza??[/quote]
just put the usb connector, then we can plug a usb fan, many usb features can use too.[/quote]
But 3rd row seat where to find usb port ? lol .. the blower i meant is the aircond blower not the fan like old teksi la haha ..[/quote]
He just being sarcastic lah bro.
[quote comment="233093"]The middle seat on the front row bring back old memory of classic mobile (like the American car). Nice for couple:)
I hope this car have crash test result as good as any recent Toyota/Daihatsu/ Perodua Myvi result. This is what Proton have only recently archieved with Exora (but I still suspected the speed they have tested on is slower, below 50km/h).
I have no doubt this new Perodua MPV will have better crash test than Exora given the resources & experience they have in Toyota & Daihatsu. It's a trend to nowaday to archieve 5 star NCAP. (Exora only can claim 4 stars). Myvi get 4 star NCAP too FYI:)[/quote]
Can you give the prove that the video in youtube are Myvi ?. That toyota passo & NCAP do crash test, get enough 4 star, Boon get 3 almost 4 star. Myvi not even almost 2 1/2 star get. Lot's of safety fetures they scrap & claim that water pipe are safety bar ?. Then sold to all ah beng that will send they Myvi to "kedai abang" to get body kit & Passo emblem to install. later Dreaming his car achive 4 star NCAP rating. Menyedihkan. :(
Inilah dia, perodua myvi mpv edition. tengok design agak sama ,acam myvi cuma design diperbesarkan sedikit.
i pity the person sitting in the middle (front row). Imagine what would happen if there is an accident. Their balls will kena the gear knob!
d dashboard really look nice if exora's is anything to go by. but don't be duped by this type of 'dirty' marketing ploy – displaying a tweaked dashboard of ready car model in the market. there's no car at all, but a dashboard. u don't contemplating a car becoz of dashboard, do u?
d intention is very clear i.e. to mislead/divert prospects from their existing attention on rival. as I am a fully informed consumer, I felt so humiliated by this particular type of strategy.
[quote comment="232286"]nmpk sngat yg perodua ni gelojoh… bila proton nak kuarkan savvy.. sebok nk kuarkan myvi…bila proton nk kuarkan mpv plak, pun same nk kuarkan mpv… nmpak sangat perodua nie nk nk fight…agaknya klu proton nak kuarkan bajak sawah… pun perodua nie nk keluarkan bajak sawah gak…hahaha…. lu pikir la sendiri[/quote]
Aiikkk!!, naza backing proton belasah perodua.
I hate meter at the center…. what da fak…~
[quote comment="233077"]
teknologi lain dengan matematik yang campur tolak. teknologi ada terkini dan tertinggal zaman. apakata berbanding dengan toyota yang berusia 25 tahun(bertubuh pada tahun 1937), iaitu teknologi pada tahun 1962 yang tertinggal zaman dengan proton jagung terkini yang berusia 25 tahun pada tahun 2009. toyota keluar toyota Ipsum mpv pada usia 59 tahun(1996) tapi proton keluar mpv pada usia 25 tahun, proton pandai terbukti sudah menang.[/quote]
Bukan aku nak kata yg Proton tu pandai, 25thn dah dpt buat mpv.. sebab tu aku cakap, teknologi zaman dulu dan zaman sekarang berbeza.. mmg kita tak boleh nak compare 25thn start dari thn1937 dgn 25thn start dari 1980.. tapi apabila kita compare teknologi 80thn mereka dgn teknologi 25thn kita, mmg tak patut bro.. seumpama org dewasa ajak budak umur 1thn lumba lari dgn dia.. tgk siapa makan lebih cepat dan lebih byk.. dan tgk siapa yg lebih pintar..
teknologi siapa yg lebih pandai/canggih? mesti Toyota kan? siapa yg makan lebih byk, Toyota kan? siapa lari lebih laju? mesti Toyota jugak.. semua org tahu ni…
agak berapa peratus % dalam konteks peratusan exora ini dibuat oleh proton diri sendiri ? Enjin ? gearbox ? BCM ? sistem brek ? design engineering ? safety module ? air bag ? platform dan chasis ? dan sebagainya ? Ini semua datang dari mana pihak ?
[quote comment="233224"]
Bukan aku nak kata yg Proton tu pandai, 25thn dah dpt buat mpv.. sebab tu aku cakap, teknologi zaman dulu dan zaman sekarang berbeza.. mmg kita tak boleh nak compare 25thn start dari thn1937 dgn 25thn start dari 1980.. tapi apabila kita compare teknologi 80thn mereka dgn teknologi 25thn kita, mmg tak patut bro.. seumpama org dewasa ajak budak umur 1thn lumba lari dgn dia.. tgk siapa makan lebih cepat dan lebih byk.. dan tgk siapa yg lebih pintar..
teknologi siapa yg lebih pandai/canggih? mesti Toyota kan? siapa yg makan lebih byk, Toyota kan? siapa lari lebih laju? mesti Toyota jugak.. semua org tahu ni…[/quote]
tetapi usia 25 tahun remaja sepatutnya lumba lebih laju daripada usia 80 tahun golongan tua. kecuali seperti cerita lumbaan arnah dengan kura-kura.
jadi kereta toyota lebih canggih lebih lajulah, makan banyak sikit tak apa, janji dapat kereta canggih, lepas beberapa tahun pun masih nampak canggihkan.
[quote comment="233140"]Itu sebab ramai yang kata banding tahun dengan tahun dari segi pencapaian. Sebagai contoh, Toyota Corolla sudah jual lebih daripada 30 Million unit sejak perlancaran model ini. Itu baru salah satu daripada model mereka since you bawak Toyota ke sini. So, banding 25 tahun Toyota dengan 25 tahun kereta kita ? Di mana tapak kita sekarang ? 25 tahun banding 25 tahun dari segi pencapaian harga, qualiti, teknologi, permintaan dunia tentang jenama dan sebagainya.[/quote]
Sebab tulah apa yg aku maksudkan ialah, pencapaian 25thn Toyota dulu susah nak dibandingkan dgn 25thn Proton.. sebab pada awal permulaan toyota, mereka mmg bermula dgn 0 (kosong). Teknologi baru nak berkembang, kualiti mereka pada masa itu mmg terlampau crappy.. tapi advantages diaorg ialah, rival tidak byk.. persaingan mungkin cuma dari depan dan belakang je.. mungkin juga itu faktor penyebab corolla mereka laris dan rival yg lainnya pun masih belum menemui rentak sebenar.. kualiti pun masih teruk.. ditambah pulak dgn faktor mentaliti patriotik org jepun yg suka support barangan sendiri..
pada awal permulaan Proton, mmg mereka tidak perlu bermula dari 0 (kosong).. start dari tgh sebab teknologi yg sudah berkembang diperolehi hasil menjadi hamba mitsu.. tapi, pada masa itupun, Toyota sudah jauh kedepan.. pahit yg mereka kena telan ialah, terpaksa menjadi pemasang keta rebadge mitsu selama berbelas thn.. selama berbelas thn inilah mereka terpaksa akur dgn mitsu yg mana Proton tidak boleh membangunkan R&D sendiri.. dan Toyota pun sudah maju dan terlalu jauh utk dikejar.. dan lain2 pembuat kereta pun sudah jauh lebih maju berbanding mereka.. percaya tak kalo aku cakap yg Proton ada R&D sendiri semasa masih bersama mitsu?
Akan tetapi, mitsu tidak berapa setuju Proton ada R&D sendiri. apabila proton sudah mula bersikap secrecy dgn mitsu.. mitsu fed up, lalu mintak keluar dan sesudah Proton berpecah dgn mitsu, barulah R&D mereka aktif sepenuhnya.. bermula dgn membeli stake Lotus, dan MV Agusta.. barulah mereka mencipta model sendiri. tetapi agak terlambat.. pada waktu itu rival sudah terlampau byk dan terlalu jauh utk dikejar, tentangan yg dihadapi oleh mereka dtg dari setiap sudut… harga keta lain pun kompetitiv.. selepas thn 2000 barulah Proton ada enjin sendiri.. bare Campro yg lembab low end.. dan toyota sudah pun menerajui pasaran dunia dan terkenal.. sebab tu permintaan dunia terhadap jenama toyota mengalakkan kerana lebih lama berada dipasaran.. dan thn 2009 ni sahaja kita boleh kira yg pembuat keta dari china sudah melebihi 20 syarikat pembuat keta…
[quote comment="233231"]
tetapi usia 25 tahun remaja sepatutnya lumba lebih laju daripada usia 80 tahun golongan tua. kecuali seperti cerita lumbaan arnah dengan kura-kura.
jadi kereta toyota lebih canggih lebih lajulah, makan banyak sikit tak apa, janji dapat kereta canggih, lepas beberapa tahun pun masih nampak canggihkan.[/quote]
kerana mentaliti seperti inilah org malaysia tidak dpt maju.. aku nak ajak ko tolong angkat malaysia dan junjung tinggi-tinggi, tapi ko suruh aku junjung sorang2… alamatnya tak terangkatlah malaysia.. kalo ko nak bandingkan org tua 80thn dgn remaja 25 thn, mmg org tua lebih lambat lumba lari.. kalo ko nak bandingkan teknologi toyota 80thn dgn teknologi 25thn proton, mestilah toyota sudah lari lebih jauh.. aiya… kalo ko nak canggih, belilah mpv ni, aku tahulah BCM proton lousy, kualiti kurang, enjin kecik body besar.. sampai DVD player dan LCD screen pun org tanya bagus ke tak.. dan aku nak tgk secanggih mana mpv ni.. apa yg org kedekut mcm jepun tu boleh kasi kat org malaysia dgn harga murah..
[quote comment="233236"]
kerana mentaliti seperti inilah org malaysia tidak dpt maju.. aku nak ajak ko tolong angkat malaysia dan junjung tinggi-tinggi, tapi ko suruh aku junjung sorang2… alamatnya tak terangkatlah malaysia.. kalo ko nak bandingkan org tua 80thn dgn remaja 25 thn, mmg org tua lebih lambat lumba lari.. kalo ko nak bandingkan teknologi toyota 80thn dgn teknologi 25thn proton, mestilah toyota sudah lari lebih jauh.. aiya… kalo ko nak canggih, belilah mpv ni, aku tahulah BCM proton lousy, kualiti kurang, enjin kecik body besar.. sampai DVD player dan LCD screen pun org tanya bagus ke tak.. dan aku nak tgk secanggih mana mpv ni.. apa yg org kedekut mcm jepun tu boleh kasi kat org malaysia dgn harga murah..[/quote]
adakah kita orang sesombong dan buat malas seperti arnah itu? ya ke tidak aku tak kisah, janji belajar dengan kura-kura yang selalu berusaha tegih. p1 baru lousy atau tidak masih belum ditentu oleh pemiliknya lagikan, janganlah senang-senang berputus rasa seperti orang ketekut macam aku. orang jepun dan p2 ketekut ke tidak akan diketahui selepas pelancaran mpv ini, biar kita tunggu dan lihat.
[quote comment="233240"][quote comment="233236"]
kerana mentaliti seperti inilah org malaysia tidak dpt maju.. aku nak ajak ko tolong angkat malaysia dan junjung tinggi-tinggi, tapi ko suruh aku junjung sorang2… alamatnya tak terangkatlah malaysia.. kalo ko nak bandingkan org tua 80thn dgn remaja 25 thn, mmg org tua lebih lambat lumba lari.. kalo ko nak bandingkan teknologi toyota 80thn dgn teknologi 25thn proton, mestilah toyota sudah lari lebih jauh.. aiya… kalo ko nak canggih, belilah mpv ni, aku tahulah BCM proton lousy, kualiti kurang, enjin kecik body besar.. sampai DVD player dan LCD screen pun org tanya bagus ke tak.. dan aku nak tgk secanggih mana mpv ni.. apa yg org kedekut mcm jepun tu boleh kasi kat org malaysia dgn harga murah..[/quote]
adakah kita orang sesombong dan buat malas seperti arnah itu? ya ke tidak aku tak kisah, janji belajar dengan kura-kura yang selalu berusaha tegih. p1 baru lousy atau tidak masih belum ditentu oleh pemiliknya lagikan, janganlah senang-senang berputus rasa seperti orang ketekut macam aku. orang jepun dan p2 ketekut ke tidak akan diketahui selepas pelancaran mpv ini, biar kita tunggu dan lihat.[/quote]
kita org malaysia bukan malas mcm arnab la.. dan bukan nye sebab diaorg terlampau rajin mcm kura2.. sejak bila pulak kura2 rajin? da sejak bila pulak arnab malas? cerita kanak2 tu..
ini sebab mentaliti org malaysia ialah "tidak apa" dan "tidak kisah".. dan org jepun 'kedekut', 'cerewet' dan terlampau memilih.. inilah sebabnya apabila vendor hantar part kurang kualiti dgn harga yg mahal.. mahal 'tidak apa' dan kurang kualiti 'tidak kisah' pasang je… hasilnya? sendiri tahu.. sifat cerewet dan memilih inilah yg cuba dipraktikan oleh DZA, cerewet dgn kualiti dan pilih harga yg berpatutan.. kedekut tidak la.. org jepun bertepuk tgn tgk org kita junjung jepun tanpa disuruh.. tinggi pulak tu.. :)
proton exora test drive video :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_j0xecsoaUI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-O2HM3ekZI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLjjvbu6WWU
p2 sette for family with 2 kids,toyota avanza for family with 3 teenagers and exora for family with 3 adaults.your choice depends on your needs.
[quote comment="233253"]
kita org malaysia bukan malas mcm arnab la.. dan bukan nye sebab diaorg terlampau rajin mcm kura2.. sejak bila pulak kura2 rajin? da sejak bila pulak arnab malas? cerita kanak2 tu..
ini sebab mentaliti org malaysia ialah "tidak apa" dan "tidak kisah".. dan org jepun 'kedekut', 'cerewet' dan terlampau memilih.. inilah sebabnya apabila vendor hantar part kurang kualiti dgn harga yg mahal.. mahal 'tidak apa' dan kurang kualiti 'tidak kisah' pasang je… hasilnya? sendiri tahu.. sifat cerewet dan memilih inilah yg cuba dipraktikan oleh DZA, cerewet dgn kualiti dan pilih harga yg berpatutan.. kedekut tidak la.. org jepun bertepuk tgn tgk org kita junjung jepun tanpa disuruh.. tinggi pulak tu.. :)[/quote]
sangat menarik dengan perkataan "cerewet" dan "tidak kisah", diantaraannya pula ialah "kisah". "cerewet<kisah<tidak kisah". jepun terlampau dengan cerewet sehingga tidak melepaskan setiap kecacatan yang terwujud, tapi kita pula tidak kisah apa-apapun pada sesuatu yang dimiliki. harap-harap kita wujudnya sifat kisah, kisah/menghargai apa yang dimiliki, kisah/memperbaiki kekurangan diri sendiri, kisah/memperbaiki pada kualiti, kisah/beriklas memberi sesuatu, kisah/memilih dengan harga yang berpatutan. kamu mempunyai sifat kisah/mencintai pada negara.
[quote comment="233015"][quote comment="232990"]Kenapa warna dalam dia berbelang-belang?
Macam TAPIR je… takpun CIPAN.. em.. TENUK kot..
huhuhuu..
Kenape? Sape2 tolong la jawab[/quote]
yg tu 'colour tone' la..
ade monotone type & 2 tone type..[/quote]
Ni lagi satu tak penah baca buku… malas dah nak layan…huhuh
[quote comment="233158"][quote comment="233093"]The middle seat on the front row bring back old memory of classic mobile (like the American car). Nice for couple:)
I hope this car have crash test result as good as any recent Toyota/Daihatsu/ Perodua Myvi result. This is what Proton have only recently archieved with Exora (but I still suspected the speed they have tested on is slower, below 50km/h).
I have no doubt this new Perodua MPV will have better crash test than Exora given the resources & experience they have in Toyota & Daihatsu. It's a trend to nowaday to archieve 5 star NCAP. (Exora only can claim 4 stars). Myvi get 4 star NCAP too FYI:)[/quote]
pls don't joke here la….all perodua R&D did was Rebadge and Deliver…however the materials used here to assemble are of dirt cheap quality….no crash test done. You must be one of those ah bengs who bring their myvi to brothers to modify to passo badge and bodykit and then think it is a passo that can get 4 star ncap test.
wake up from you dream…[/quote]
pity him
i reckon when this mpv launch and ppl asking about crash test, the p2 salesman say.. just refer to passo sette crash test result.. if sette got 4 stars meaning peroua oso got 4 stars lorr.. sama jerr prrthhh
yet.. perodua cars never been sent for crash test
[quote comment="233196"]Inilah dia, perodua myvi mpv edition. tengok design agak sama ,acam myvi cuma design diperbesarkan sedikit.[/quote]
so tau la.. kalau myvi yg kecik pon org kata handling cam sampan dan driver seat position cam VAN.. apatah ;lagi myvi yg ditinggikan .ni
prrrfthhh.
re comment
EXORA.. SPACIOUS, SAFETY, BETTER RIDE HANDLING,COMFORT and alot Hi tech gadget (BCM).. suits for mens
P2 MPV @VAN
GOOD FC, BETTER ENGINE PERFORMANCE, suits for "Syufu, mama and onna"
(ladies and ah soo)
[quote comment="233296"]re comment
EXORA.. SPACIOUS, SAFETY, BETTER RIDE HANDLING,COMFORT and alot Hi tech gadget (BCM).. suits for mens
P2 MPV @VAN
GOOD FC, BETTER ENGINE PERFORMANCE, suits for "Syufu, mama and onna"
(ladies and ah soo)[/quote]
P2 MPV @LUMINAS
EASY HANDLING, amazing sunday with mother, father, 3 child, grandfather and grandmother.
Hmm..all Proton supporters in here.Why come in here and talk? Havent even launched yet and you guys pissing in ur pants already?
Well,let me give you a tip.Save your finger energy typing here.
Just let the sales figures do the talking.
[quote comment="233309"]Hmm..all Proton supporters in here.Why come in here and talk? Havent even launched yet and you guys pissing in ur pants already?
Well,let me give you a tip.Save your finger energy typing here.
Just let the sales figures do the talking.[/quote]
haha..pls admit, p2 just rebadge the car not make a new car and yet the ori one oredi on the road almost a year… so we can predict how this downgraded version will look like, we got IT and internet, not a kampung ppl those simply got conned …
[quote comment="233279"]
sangat menarik dengan perkataan "cerewet" dan "tidak kisah", diantaraannya pula ialah "kisah". "cerewet<kisah<tidak kisah". jepun terlampau dengan cerewet sehingga tidak melepaskan setiap kecacatan yang terwujud, tapi kita pula tidak kisah apa-apapun pada sesuatu yang dimiliki. harap-harap kita wujudnya sifat kisah, kisah/menghargai apa yang dimiliki, kisah/memperbaiki kekurangan diri sendiri, kisah/memperbaiki pada kualiti, kisah/beriklas memberi sesuatu, kisah/memilih dengan harga yang berpatutan. kamu mempunyai sifat kisah/mencintai pada negara.[/quote]
laa…lain dah jadi ceritanya bro…
[quote comment="233307"][quote comment="233296"]re comment
EXORA.. SPACIOUS, SAFETY, BETTER RIDE HANDLING,COMFORT and alot Hi tech gadget (BCM).. suits for mens
P2 MPV @VAN
GOOD FC, BETTER ENGINE PERFORMANCE, suits for "Syufu, mama and onna"
(ladies and ah soo)[/quote]
P2 MPV @LUMINAS
EASY HANDLING, amazing sunday with mother, father, 3 child, grandfather and grandmother.[/quote]
P2 MPV @ MyviTO (Myvi Tujuh Orang?)
Easy Handling on low speed, so the engine's overpower cant be use properly and must avoid taking any corners just at moderate speed due to too much body roll.. amazing sunday just at 1st and 2nd row only due to 3rd row will complain hot, uncomfortable flat seat, bouncy and cramp legroom..
[quote comment="233307"][quote comment="233296"]re comment
EXORA.. SPACIOUS, SAFETY, BETTER RIDE HANDLING,COMFORT and alot Hi tech gadget (BCM).. suits for mens
P2 MPV @VAN
GOOD FC, BETTER ENGINE PERFORMANCE, suits for "Syufu, mama and onna"
(ladies and ah soo)[/quote]
P2 MPV @LUMINAS
EASY HANDLING, amazing sunday with mother, father, 3 child, grandfather and grandmother.[/quote]
P2MPV = DOWNGRADED Luminas ( 3rd world country market)
prrrfthhh easy handling and easy floating… if myvi (lower and smaller oso floating, what do you expect from Taller version???
[quote comment="233309"]Hmm..all Proton supporters in here.Why come in here and talk? Havent even launched yet and you guys pissing in ur pants already?
Well,let me give you a tip.Save your finger energy typing here.
Just let the sales figures do the talking.[/quote]
Ehh.. did P1 bashers also doing a similar thing at any Proton's thread just like before?? did u?? spare this comment for urself la my fren.. As a manager, u should know how to manage a temper..
[quote comment="233317"]
P2 MPV @ MyviTO (Myvi Tujuh Orang?)
Easy Handling on low speed, so the engine's overpower cant be use properly and must avoid taking any corners just at moderate speed due to too much body roll.. amazing sunday just at 1st and 2nd row only due to 3rd row will complain hot, uncomfortable flat seat, bouncy and cramp legroom..[/quote]
"so the engine's overpower" (Pro P2 claim this)
[quote comment="233319"]
P2MPV = DOWNGRADED Luminas ( 3rd world country market)
prrrfthhh easy handling and easy floating… if myvi (lower and smaller oso floating, what do you expect from Taller version???[/quote]
your points was gen2 lousy, then gen3 ,gen4 ,gen5 ,6 ,7 ,8 ,9… also lousy.
don't expect the coming up model.
heck…. so what if its a rebadged… as long as we Malaysians get affordable prices rather than the ridiculously priced and taxed imports, let more of the rebadged enter our market so our P1 won't monopolise the industry. Let them prove their worth by merit! I'm for more Nazas, Inokoms and P2s!…. Competition is Good!…. lower car prices pls!…. y not bring in a P3 with Honda rebadges. Yeah!
when we talk about MPV.. it means a vehicle to carry people..
people, child and adult… so the 1st priority is SPACIOUS.. spacious with better handling (good for driver) and COMFORT ( not floating like a VAN)..
dont be syok sendiri.. the driver at 1st row syok sendiri watching the "good" dashboard design.. but the ppl at 2nd and 3rd row suffer from papan lapis seat, floating ride and microwave climate (no aircond)..
then we go to SAFETY… the ori version got 6 airbag coz they know body can't protect the ppl inside..but when it comes to this DOWNGRADED version.. just keep2 airbag and the tin milo has been downgraded again to tin sardin body..But when ppl ask about crash test or roll over result.. they said.. sama macam passo sette kat jepun.. prrrfthhh… never been sent for crash test.. but only doing road test after changing the bumper, steering and aircond button design
then we go to CONVENIENCE..
the MPV must be easy to access to 3rd row…this downgraded sette use sliding type
easy to arrange the seat (fold and make it flat but you have to remove your 3rd row seat head rest just to fold it down… then at 2nd row.. you need to press by pulling the tali to make it flat… this is not CONVENIENCE
finally.. Japanese design this ori passo sette purposely target to syufu, mama and Onna (in japanese.. means, wife, mama and girl)..
[quote comment="233327"]heck…. so what if its a rebadged… as long as we Malaysians get affordable prices rather than the ridiculously priced and taxed imports, let more of the rebadged enter our market so our P1 won't monopolise the industry. Let them prove their worth by merit! I'm for more Nazas, Inokoms and P2s!…. Competition is Good!…. lower car prices pls!…. y not bring in a P3 with Honda rebadges. Yeah![/quote]
Affordable prices? lol.. funny.. Myvi is priced similar with Persona, And saga is cheaper than a cramp Viva.. only the affordable rebadged vehicle was an ages kancil.. oh sorry, misunderstanding.. maybe u mean kancil right was affordable right?
talking about dashboard.. some say this is very japanese design.. i LOTF
below is the pic of what same ppl here say "very Japanese design",,when i was in Japan with my japanese fellow..
he drive a HONDA STEPWAGON MPV( very popular in Japan) and for me.. the dashbord design like toyota UNSER.. we had chance talking about passo sette.. sadly he knows nothing about it.. maybe becoz he is Japanese GUY… japanese ah soo may be know..prrrfthhh
http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/2427/dsc00314b…
[quote comment="233333"]
Affordable prices? lol.. funny.. Myvi is priced similar with Persona, And saga is cheaper than a cramp Viva.. only the affordable rebadged vehicle was an ages kancil.. oh sorry, misunderstanding.. maybe u mean kancil right was affordable right?[/quote]
no, p2 and p3 rebadge was affordable then the toyota/daihatsu and honda with ridiculously priced included taxed imports.
[quote comment="233333"][quote comment="233327"]heck…. so what if its a rebadged… as long as we Malaysians get affordable prices rather than the ridiculously priced and taxed imports, let more of the rebadged enter our market so our P1 won't monopolise the industry. Let them prove their worth by merit! I'm for more Nazas, Inokoms and P2s!…. Competition is Good!…. lower car prices pls!…. y not bring in a P3 with Honda rebadges. Yeah![/quote]
Affordable prices? lol.. funny.. Myvi is priced similar with Persona, And saga is cheaper than a cramp Viva.. only the affordable rebadged vehicle was an ages kancil.. oh sorry, misunderstanding.. maybe u mean kancil right was affordable right?[/quote]
hahaha funny… my point is… so long as there are competition 4 P1 the more the better… rather than let P1 be the "Protected" child offering prices tat oni d average Malaysians can afford… Rebadged Cars Boleh!
[quote comment="233341"][quote comment="233333"][quote comment="233327"]heck…. so what if its a rebadged… as long as we Malaysians get affordable prices rather than the ridiculously priced and taxed imports, let more of the rebadged enter our market so our P1 won't monopolise the industry. Let them prove their worth by merit! I'm for more Nazas, Inokoms and P2s!…. Competition is Good!…. lower car prices pls!…. y not bring in a P3 with Honda rebadges. Yeah![/quote]
Affordable prices? lol.. funny.. Myvi is priced similar with Persona, And saga is cheaper than a cramp Viva.. only the affordable rebadged vehicle was an ages kancil.. oh sorry, misunderstanding.. maybe u mean kancil right was affordable right?[/quote]
hahaha funny… my point is… so long as there are competition 4 P1 the more the better… rather than let P1 be the "Protected" child offering prices tat oni d average Malaysians can afford… Rebadged Cars Boleh![/quote]
p2 oso protected by gomen lor… toyota can ask toyota indonesia or UMW to asemble this sette for asean market.. but if they do so… p2 mau rebadge keta apa?? prrrfthhh…
[quote comment="233339"][quote comment="233333"]
Affordable prices? lol.. funny.. Myvi is priced similar with Persona, And saga is cheaper than a cramp Viva.. only the affordable rebadged vehicle was an ages kancil.. oh sorry, misunderstanding.. maybe u mean kancil right was affordable right?[/quote]
no, p2 and p3 rebadge was affordable then the toyota/daihatsu and honda with ridiculously priced included taxed imports.[/quote]
they are not just rebadge.. but DOWNGRADED iand selling it at higer price
[quote comment="233236"][quote comment="233231"]
tetapi usia 25 tahun remaja sepatutnya lumba lebih laju daripada usia 80 tahun golongan tua. kecuali seperti cerita lumbaan arnah dengan kura-kura.
jadi kereta toyota lebih canggih lebih lajulah, makan banyak sikit tak apa, janji dapat kereta canggih, lepas beberapa tahun pun masih nampak canggihkan.[/quote]
kerana mentaliti seperti inilah org malaysia tidak dpt maju.. aku nak ajak ko tolong angkat malaysia dan junjung tinggi-tinggi, tapi ko suruh aku junjung sorang2… alamatnya tak terangkatlah malaysia.. kalo ko nak bandingkan org tua 80thn dgn remaja 25 thn, mmg org tua lebih lambat lumba lari.. kalo ko nak bandingkan teknologi toyota 80thn dgn teknologi 25thn proton, mestilah toyota sudah lari lebih jauh.. aiya… kalo ko nak canggih, belilah mpv ni, aku tahulah BCM proton lousy, kualiti kurang, enjin kecik body besar.. sampai DVD player dan LCD screen pun org tanya bagus ke tak.. dan aku nak tgk secanggih mana mpv ni.. apa yg org kedekut mcm jepun tu boleh kasi kat org malaysia dgn harga murah..[/quote]
Mentality eh……
Today I had an economic class, the lecturer showed us a BBC video documenting the 1997 Asian economic crisis in Thailand. To cut things short, Thailand was a victim caused by the Western's jealousy of their booming economy (the 90s were the era of the booming Asian tigers which included Thailand, Malaysia, Indonesia, Singapore, Hong Kong, South Korea n some others). The western speculators "attacked" the Bath currency which at that time was pegged at 25Bath = USD1. The continuous attack caused their govt to finally float their currency, n the value of Bath fell up to 20% in one day. A real estate investor who used to be able to drive Volvo, send his kids to expensive private schools n go for holidays overseas ended up selling sandwiches on the streets (quite a challenge since culturally, Thai ppl dun eat sandwiches). This story was similar here, with George Soros being that Westerm speculator who attacked our ringgit (that explained why DrM hated him).
I had a reflective moment, n thought that the lesson is the strong (western speculators) can always bully the weak (Asian countries that were affected in 1997) if they want to. The ONLY way to prevent this for us to look into ourselves, believe in our own strength n become strong.
That was what DrM (n his "proxy", TM) had been trying to do with Proton n well, basically, everything else he did. Bt I'll talk abt Proton. Since Waja, Proton hv been trying to find its own strength, n so far, I think it's agreeable to say its strengths are its handling, looks, n Campro CPS.
To see how bad it is being "raped" by those strong foreigners, just look at how pathetic T n P2 cars are. There's just no other reason to buy them aside from the badge. So long the rakyat r supporting these products for their own short-term selfish gains (Toyota mar… good reliability, good f/c, good 2nd hand value blabla), our country is pretty much vulnerable. That said, I'm somewhat glad the bank's recent hike in interest rate is timely. It's more to do with trying to gather revenues to keep our banking industry strong. That, is important in order to overcome this crisis. We may curse d banks n govt, but hey, there's always lots of good 2nd hand cars if u're desperate for foreign cars.
I wouldn't have despised P2 so much had only they shown any effort at all to be independent from the Japs. It got worse especially when they decided to sell Nautica as CBU. DSZ's recent call to consolidate their companies gets cold water treatment by Datuk Syed Hafiz, I'm somewhat disappointed by DSH's arrogance n reluctance.
Back to lesson learnt, so DrM had wanted Proton to be a full-fledged car manufacturer so that we can be strong ourselves instead of enslaving ourselves to the Japs, Germans, Americans etc, n I'm kinda glad DSZ still holds on to that principal. To walk this path, he must have a big ego n hunger to be the absolute best. TM did have these characteristics, though his weakness were his negligence of quality n producing what the market wants (saloon cars). DSZ had done a lot to eliminate these problems, though being ex-P2, I had doubt abt his future plan for Proton's direction, at least until his pleas to Khazanah to not sell them to VW. It was an answer to me that DSZ does have a plan for Proton to be a proper player in the automotive industry, rather than "oh, let's just improve quality, nden let proton become some German's kuli batak, kthxbye". The future of Proton seems very, very exciting :D
As for P2, well, it's abt time u shud wake up after ur phenomenal success of Myvi n Viva. Money is no longer the issue edi.
This MPV does hv its unique selling point as peYno hv said. But frankly, I'd rather have comfort + safety + good handling of Exora rather than good power-to-weight n… that's all. Shame on P2 for not having a/c for 2nd n 3rd row, bt then again, it's a Toyota mar……
[quote comment="233342"]
p2 oso protected by gomen lor… toyota can ask toyota indonesia or UMW to asemble this sette for asean market.. but if they do so… p2 mau rebadge keta apa?? prrrfthhh…[/quote]
yah, p2 also protected by government, that's point we by p2 cars.
[quote comment="233344"][quote comment="233339"][quote comment="233333"]
Affordable prices? lol.. funny.. Myvi is priced similar with Persona, And saga is cheaper than a cramp Viva.. only the affordable rebadged vehicle was an ages kancil.. oh sorry, misunderstanding.. maybe u mean kancil right was affordable right?[/quote]
no, p2 and p3 rebadge was affordable then the toyota/daihatsu and honda with ridiculously priced included taxed imports.[/quote]
they are not just rebadge.. but DOWNGRADED iand selling it at higer price[/quote]
FYI:
Toyota Rush 1.5G M/T – RM85,888
Toyota Rush 1.5G A/T – RM88,888
Toyota Rush 1.5S A/T – RM94,888
P2 Nautica – RM89,900
How's that for Protection for P2? Btw… how do u know they r downgraded products? got insider info ar? do share with us…
[quote comment="233347"][quote comment="233342"]
p2 oso protected by gomen lor… toyota can ask toyota indonesia or UMW to asemble this sette for asean market.. but if they do so… p2 mau rebadge keta apa?? prrrfthhh…[/quote]
yah, p2 also protected by government, that's point we by p2 cars.[/quote]
actually P2 will die faster without gomen protection.. why??
coz P2 just rebadge form other car not making own car… let say.. if gomen open our automotive market.. no tax etc.. and all import cars are cheap… then for sure toyota/daihatsu will oso bring their Real passo/boon/mira/sette to malaysia market ..
if this happen… P2 nak rebadge apa?? if we can buy the ORI car at cheaper price.. then who wanna buy the rebadge dowgraded version from P2.???
selling nautica at RM89k iwas their stupid strategy.. tP2 think they got "brand".. so they try to sell CBU under P2 badge… sadly nobody wanna buy…but if this nautica under "T" brand.. sure it sales well
So you are the guy who believe if passo got 4 stars NCAP… myvi oso may get the same point meh?? prrrfthh
[quote comment="233344"]
they are not just rebadge.. but DOWNGRADED iand selling it at higer price[/quote]
are you sure p2 will downgraded the sette?
have any p2men here to give answer?
D46T priced RM??K – RM66k
sette priced RM59k – 79k
Actually driven a myvi b4 …. had a fren in new Saga BLM who totally outpaced d sluggish Myvi on d road… really cant catch up…. but anyway… lookin at d shots on P2 MPV it looks trendier and younger (tenuk color scheme oso cute ba) than Exora's boring old black… shall head2 Angsana Plaza, JB this weekend 2 hav a peek …
[quote comment="233350"]
actually P2 will die faster without gomen protection.. why??
coz P2 just rebadge form other car not making own car… let say.. if gomen open our automotive market.. no tax etc.. and all import cars are cheap… then for sure toyota/daihatsu will oso bring their Real passo/boon/mira/sette to malaysia market ..
if this happen… P2 nak rebadge apa?? if we can buy the ORI car at cheaper price.. then who wanna buy the rebadge dowgraded version from P2.???[/quote]
maybe p2 need OEM with p1, brothers sharing. naza sell their logo emblem stickers.
[quote comment="233358"][quote comment="233353"][quote comment="233348"][quote comment="233344"][quote comment="233339"][quote comment="233333"]
Affordable prices? lol.. funny.. Myvi is priced similar with Persona, And saga is cheaper than a cramp Viva.. only the affordable rebadged vehicle was an ages kancil.. oh sorry, misunderstanding.. maybe u mean kancil right was affordable right?[/quote]
no, p2 and p3 rebadge was affordable then the toyota/daihatsu and honda with ridiculously priced included taxed imports.[/quote]
they are not just rebadge.. but DOWNGRADED iand selling it at higer price[/quote]
FYI:
Toyota Rush 1.5G M/T – RM85,888
Toyota Rush 1.5G A/T – RM88,888
Toyota Rush 1.5S A/T – RM94,888
P2 Nautica – RM89,900
How's that for Protection for P2? Btw… how do u know they r downgraded products? got insider info ar? do share with us…[/quote]
selling nautica at RM89k iwas their stupid strategy.. tP2 think they got "brand".. so they try to sell CBU under P2 badge… sadly nobody wanna buy…but if this nautica under "T" brand.. sure it sales well
So you are the guy who believe if passo got 4 stars NCAP… myvi oso may get the same point meh?? prrrfthh[/quote]
Actually driven a myvi b4 …. had a fren in new Saga BLM who totally outpaced d sluggish Myvi on d road… really cant catch up…. but anyway… lookin at d shots on P2 MPV it looks trendier and younger (tenuk color scheme oso cute ba) than Exora's boring old black… shall head2 Angsana Plaza, JB this weekend 2 hav a peek …[/quote]
haha u have seen s shots mehh???but i have seen the real sette while my stay in Japan loorrr.. as i said.. even my japanese fella oso don't bother about sette .. look trendy?? my japanese fella may laugh at u bro..prrrfthhh
MPV is purpose to bring your chlid.. ur child paly around inside the car and split the water.. there is the reason why black color fabric is used..
if you say it;s trendy then AVANZA oso trendy design lorrr
[quote comment="233355"][quote comment="233344"]
they are not just rebadge.. but DOWNGRADED iand selling it at higer price[/quote]
are you sure p2 will downgraded the sette?
have any p2men here to give answer?
D46T priced RM??K – RM66k
sette priced RM59k – 79k[/quote]
p2 men?? if you ask why they desgin sette meter at center.. they oso can't answer la..
jepun buat meter kat tgh… kami pon buat kat tengah la.. prrfthhh
agin.. i paste the pic of HONDA STEPWAGON dashboard…
oso dark color and very popular in Japan.. stepwagon is typically BOXY shape..then how come u said this downgraded sette is trendy design??prrfthh
http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/2427/dsc00314b…
FYI
In Japan this sette is competing with Honda freed… and Honda freed is more popular thea this avanza lookalike (that purposely design for women) .. then how come u say sette is trendy design??opsss we are malaysian mehh
[quote comment="233367"]
p2 men?? if you ask why they desgin sette meter at center.. they oso can't answer la..
jepun buat meter kat tgh… kami pon buat kat tengah la.. prrfthhh[/quote]
so if i ask the p2 men why they downgraded the sette… they also can't answer…
jepun buat apa macam, kami pun buat apa macam, dia orang tak ajar kami macam mana downgraded.
[quote comment="233374"][quote comment="233367"]
p2 men?? if you ask why they desgin sette meter at center.. they oso can't answer la..
jepun buat meter kat tgh… kami pon buat kat tengah la.. prrfthhh[/quote]
so if i ask the p2 men why they downgraded the sette… they also can't answer…
jepun buat apa macam, kami pun buat apa macam, dia orang tak ajar kami macam mana downgraded.[/quote]
nak downgrade nak cut cost ni tak payah diajar..
contoh.. kalau jepun letak 6 airbag… kita letak 2 je laaa
Honda freed .. sette rival
interior dark color scheme
http://images.paultan.org/images/Honda_Freed_MPV_…
no wonder freed beats sette in Japan… japanese prefer dack color scheme kot prrrfthhhh
[quote comment="233373"]FYI
In Japan this sette is competing with Honda freed… and Honda freed is more popular thea this avanza lookalike (that purposely design for women) .. then how come u say sette is trendy design??opsss we are malaysian mehh[/quote]
sette and luminas competing with honda freed because they are compact MPV/compact minivan, means small MPV. not like the toyota passo/passo sette targeting towomen, the daihatsu's boon/boon luminas is targeting to younger/small family.
12,134 units!… no. 3 in japan for March 09…. higher than so called more popular Honda Freed …
[quote comment="233381"][quote comment="233373"]FYI
In Japan this sette is competing with Honda freed… and Honda freed is more popular thea this avanza lookalike (that purposely design for women) .. then how come u say sette is trendy design??opsss we are malaysian mehh[/quote]
sette and luminas competing with honda freed because they are compact MPV/compact minivan, means small MPV. not like the toyota passo/passo sette targeting towomen, the daihatsu's boon/boon luminas is targeting to younger/small family.[/quote]
no.. my point is.. one of the reason freed can beat sette becoz
1. Freed use normal interior dark color scheme
2. use normal right side meter (not at the center like kancil and vios) prrrfthh
note.. if you watch sette CM in Japan.. actually they are not targeting younger/small family… but Syufu/mama and Onna.. means.. for wife/ mother(grand ma oso OK) and women…. they didnt mention for younger lorrr
prrrfthhh
[quote comment="233383"]12,134 units!… no. 3 in japan for March 09…. higher than so called more popular Honda Freed …[/quote]
bit weird.. how come my japanese fella ( of coz men… not ah soo) didn't know about this???
prrrfthhh
[quote comment="233379"]Honda freed .. sette rival
interior dark color scheme
http://images.paultan.org/images/Honda_Freed_MPV_…
no wonder freed beats sette in Japan… japanese prefer dack color scheme kot prrrfthhhh[/quote]
according to JADA(Japan Automobile Dealers Association), the honda freed at the 6 but the sette and luminas was out of 30 best selling ranking on March. i wonder that the 4 years passo was stay at 3.
http://www.jada.or.jp/contents/data/ranking/index…
[quote comment="233385"][quote comment="233383"]12,134 units!… no. 3 in japan for March 09…. higher than so called more popular Honda Freed …[/quote]
bit weird.. how come my japanese fella ( of coz men… not ah soo) didn't know about this???
prrrfthhh[/quote]
it was toyota passo sold 12,134 units at no. 3 on march but the honda freed sold 7,948 units at no. 6.
*I means the DAIHATSU BOON, DAIHATSU BOON SX4 targeting to younger, and the DAIHATSU BOON LUMINAS targeting to small family.
[quote comment="233384"]Syufu/mama and Onna.. means.. for wife/ mother(grand ma oso OK) and women…. they didnt mention for younger lorrr
prrrfthhh[/quote]
toyota passo sette CM
watashitachi, syufu de, mama de, onna desu.
watashitachi is we are, syufu is housewife, mama is mother, onna is women.
we are housewife, mother, we are women.
daihatsu boon luminas CM has mention about seven families, three lines sheet, driving easily, compact size.
http://www.daihatsu.co.jp/cm/boon_luminas/index_0…
[quote comment="233391"][quote comment="233385"][quote comment="233383"]12,134 units!… no. 3 in japan for March 09…. higher than so called more popular Honda Freed …[/quote]
bit weird.. how come my japanese fella ( of coz men… not ah soo) didn't know about this???
prrrfthhh[/quote]
it was toyota passo sold 12,134 units at no. 3 on march but the honda freed sold 7,948 units at no. 6.
*I means the DAIHATSU BOON, DAIHATSU BOON SX4 targeting to younger, and the DAIHATSU BOON LUMINAS targeting to small family.[/quote]
we r talking about sette /luminas .. not passo/boon.. don't mix up
[quote comment="233412"]
we r talking about sette /luminas .. not passo/boon.. don't mix up[/quote]
got it, i follow your rules. the DAIHATSU BOON LUMINAS targeting to the SMALL family because it was SMALL MPV, the TOYOTA PASSO SETTE targeting to the women because it have a SMALL body, easy driving and parking. it just a little MPV, no need compare with the exora, the bigger MPV suits to the real men and big family.
[quote comment="233355"][quote comment="233344"]
they are not just rebadge.. but DOWNGRADED iand selling it at higer price[/quote]
are you sure p2 will downgraded the sette?
have any p2men here to give answer?
D46T priced RM??K – RM66k
sette priced RM59k – 79k[/quote]
no need p2men lorr…. easy… go buy a passo, and go get a myvi… strip down bare…. there you go…. u'll see the differences…
and while u r at that… pls… check the equipments level as well….
i would be suprise if u still don't call that downgraded…
[quote comment="233375"][quote comment="233374"][quote comment="233367"]
p2 men?? if you ask why they desgin sette meter at center.. they oso can't answer la..
jepun buat meter kat tgh… kami pon buat kat tengah la.. prrfthhh[/quote]
so if i ask the p2 men why they downgraded the sette… they also can't answer…
jepun buat apa macam, kami pun buat apa macam, dia orang tak ajar kami macam mana downgraded.[/quote]
nak downgrade nak cut cost ni tak payah diajar..
contoh.. kalau jepun letak 6 airbag… kita letak 2 je laaa[/quote]
There was a post by sifu regarding myvi's pathetic downgrade. He did mention abt lack of impact bar, abnormally thin metal sheet n something other. So yes, P2 does downgrade daihatsu models they "received n delivered".
Centre meter is rubbish, ain't it? I dunno who in the blue hell would believe it's for "better viewing" cuz no steering wheel to obstruct view. Frankly, it distracts me worse than looking down 30degree from the road. Again it's another bloody cost-cutting so that the same dash can be used for both left hand n right hand markets.
[quote comment="233441"]
no need p2men lorr…. easy… go buy a passo, and go get a myvi… strip down bare…. there you go…. u'll see the differences…
and while u r at that… pls… check the equipments level as well….
i would be suprise if u still don't call that downgraded…[/quote]
how about let them crashing each other.
[quote comment="233358"]… lookin at d shots on P2 MPV it looks trendier and younger (tenuk color scheme oso cute ba) than Exora's boring old black…[/quote]
i have the same likings as you, light toned interior 8)
however in My,
most customer prefer darker interior due to cant-be-seen dust & not-windscreen-reflective effect.
therefore,
most car manufacturer & assembly plants have more concern to need of the majority.
frankly speaking, i dun have any problem driving gen2 with beige-coloured dashboard. it's not like i'm looking at the interior all the time as if it is a precious rare gemstone, it's pure driving that is important!
i think the 2-tone interior shown above is just for promotional sake.
if mind looking at the exora prestige (or exora prime ?),
u can see that lighter toned interior makes the mpv looks awesome :)
exora doesn't have black dashboard for most,
mainly grey with 3different textures.
offtopic>>
regarding exora's back door (open up), it was interesting to find out that the configuration of the exposed "lock latch" (i dunno the proper term)
is the same as myvi's back door.
[quote comment="233348"][quote comment="233344"][quote comment="233339"][quote comment="233333"]
Affordable prices? lol.. funny.. Myvi is priced similar with Persona, And saga is cheaper than a cramp Viva.. only the affordable rebadged vehicle was an ages kancil.. oh sorry, misunderstanding.. maybe u mean kancil right was affordable right?[/quote]
no, p2 and p3 rebadge was affordable then the toyota/daihatsu and honda with ridiculously priced included taxed imports.[/quote]
they are not just rebadge.. but DOWNGRADED iand selling it at higer price[/quote]
FYI:
Toyota Rush 1.5G M/T – RM85,888
Toyota Rush 1.5G A/T – RM88,888
Toyota Rush 1.5S A/T – RM94,888
P2 Nautica – RM89,900
How's that for Protection for P2? Btw… how do u know they r downgraded products? got insider info ar? do share with us…[/quote]
Yea, u really mean to get a rebadge car with afforable price.. are u sure that our so-called national rebadge car can make others foreign car cut down their prices?
eerr.. CKD should be cheap and CBU should be pricey… Toyota Rush was CKD, from Thai? Indon or Malaysia? meanwhile Naughtycar was CBU japan(pompuan jepun pasang tu) and it's should be priced higher than CKD Rush.. am i right? The reason it's priced cheaper is G protect em..
Err.. how we noe they r downgraded products? ppls in UK most prefer passo/boon rather than myvi eventho myvi is cheaper… why did Uk fellas prefer passo if myvi was really not a downgraded product? ah… my lousy question again..
[quote comment="233355"][quote comment="233344"]
they are not just rebadge.. but DOWNGRADED iand selling it at higer price[/quote]
are you sure p2 will downgraded the sette?
have any p2men here to give answer?
D46T priced RM??K – RM66k
sette priced RM59k – 79k[/quote]
Ok, before further action to answering ur question, can i noe what the passo price w/o tax. tq…
[quote comment="233499"]
Ok, before further action to answering ur question, can i noe what the passo price w/o tax. tq…[/quote]
you have the answer, RM59k – RM79k. with tax should be RM118k – RM158k.
cure to hear your comment.
[quote comment="233375"]so if i ask the p2 men why they downgraded the sette… they also can't answer…
jepun buat apa macam, kami pun buat apa macam, dia orang tak ajar kami macam mana downgraded.[/quote]
nak downgrade nak cut cost ni tak payah diajar..
contoh.. kalau jepun letak 6 airbag… kita letak 2 je laaa[/quote]
mmg org P2 tak tahu mcm mana nak downgrade sebab T & D dah tolong P2 design downgrade version utk org malaysia.. apa yg perlu P2 buat ialah ikut plan downgrade version 100%… so what did we can expect from a fussy japanese can give us with a cheap price anyway?
[quote comment="233447"][quote comment="233441"]
no need p2men lorr…. easy… go buy a passo, and go get a myvi… strip down bare…. there you go…. u'll see the differences…
and while u r at that… pls… check the equipments level as well….
i would be suprise if u still don't call that downgraded…[/quote]
how about let them crashing each other.[/quote]
Agreed.. u drive myvi and i will drive passo.. this the way i show my respect to u when i give an opportunirty to u driving a so-called 4 stars car when we perform the test.. ;)
[quote comment="233497"]
Yea, u really mean to get a rebadge car with afforable price.. are u sure that our so-called national rebadge car can make others foreign car cut down their prices?
eerr.. CKD should be cheap and CBU should be pricey… Toyota Rush was CKD, from Thai? Indon or Malaysia? meanwhile Naughtycar was CBU japan(pompuan jepun pasang tu) and it's should be priced higher than CKD Rush.. am i right? The reason it's priced cheaper is G protect em..
Err.. how we noe they r downgraded products? ppls in UK most prefer passo/boon rather than myvi eventho myvi is cheaper… why did Uk fellas prefer passo if myvi was really not a downgraded product? ah… my lousy question again..[/quote]
p2 nautica was CBU japan, like the OEM rush and be-go, nothing downgraded. but it does have G protect could priced w/o G tax.
[quote comment="233507"]
Agreed.. u drive myvi and i will drive passo.. this the way i show my respect to u when i give an opportunirty to u driving a so-called 4 stars car when we perform the test.. ;)[/quote]
i never told that Myvi have 4 stars. please bro, i don't want die yonger, please sent to NCAP test or maybe JC want to test for free. i got a news that suzuki wagon minicar have 5 stars on NCAP test.
[quote comment="233501"][quote comment="233499"]
Ok, before further action to answering ur question, can i noe what the passo price w/o tax. tq…[/quote]
you have the answer, RM59k – RM79k. with tax should be RM118k – RM158k.
cure to hear your comment.[/quote]
Ok thanks for info…
Myvi was priced RM40k-RM53K including tax and RM35k-RM49k w/o tax.. so, what we try to compare was the price w/o tax.. the different price between Passo and myvi was around RM24K-RM30k (price without tax) that a huge amount of money my fren.. did u really think that T will give us all Passo safety feature inside myvi with myvi current prices? why did they want to sell their latest technology with cheap (myvi) price anyway? They can sell their latest technology with higher (Passo) price very well.. what did u really expect that fussy japanese can give us with cheaper price? care to comment?
p/s: lambat jawab sebab sakit perut nak melepas… :D
[quote comment="233511"][quote comment="233507"]
Agreed.. u drive myvi and i will drive passo.. this the way i show my respect to u when i give an opportunirty to u driving a so-called 4 stars car when we perform the test.. ;)[/quote]
i never told that Myvi have 4 stars. please bro, i don't want die yonger, please sent to NCAP test or maybe JC want to test for free. i got a news that suzuki wagon minicar have 5 stars on NCAP test.[/quote]
i know u didnt said that.. but when we ask about myvi test crash result then, P2 ppls will said "pls refer passo/boon crash test result"..
[quote comment="233514"]
i know u didnt said that.. but when we ask about myvi test crash result then, P2 ppls will said "pls refer passo/boon crash test result"..[/quote]
that's why we need to comparing the original and the rebadged.
i got a mistake. that's passo sette price. as i know myvi, passo, boon have a similar priced. thanks to your comment.
For those silly bum who does not know the function of the front seat, PLEASE REFER to this link -> ;http://toyota.jp/passosette/movie/impression/index.html
Click the 2nd video to watch the functionality of the seat, silly fellow who say that the seat can be seated for 3 person, somemore very dangerous,
are u NUTS, there only got 2 safety belts and 2 buckets, Silly minded, don't know what's the function somemore dare to say it's a van seat.
That mean Myvi Se really overpriced due to the price almost par with base sette…
RM59k – RM79k without tax for sette.. and RM55k-RM66k with tax for P2 MyviTo.. so, the price without tax would be cheaper am i right? The only way they can lowering the MyviTo prices by cutting the cost, reducing the gadgets..
Mr. henryee, maybe the front seat design is not up to their taste.. same as when ppls said that P1 Exora dashboard look dated.. or just a point to start a bash? ;)
As for you who said the Exora built quality is good, Take a hold of the Door handle, and open the door, The handle feels like it's gonna crack, feels too plasticky not as solid as Toyota CAMRY/ALTIS/VIOS or even P2 MYVI.
I think P1 is using those EASILY BREAK plastic handle to mount their door handle,
because if u go to their service centre to complain, they will say this to u,"Tauke, apa u nak ekspek dr kereta MPV BAWAH RM76K? Barang murah adalah ini mcm punya lah", last time my friend's RM 30K Proton Saga power window rosak, water sipping through the window glass(1 weeks after he got his car), stupid door won't open even the key opener won't get it open and somemore needs to spade the door in order to open the door, Air cond spoilt after 1 month cars, and all those problems comes in 1 month after he got his car.
And u know what, that time he buy this Proton Saga during promotion period whick cost him RM 29999, and the words that he heard from the Proton Mechanic is "Kereta murah mcm ni, apa u nak ekspek?", Sigh….Their mechanic said those words to u after u spend ur hard-earned money on the Proton.
[quote comment="233508"]
Err.. how we noe they r downgraded products? ppls in UK most prefer passo/boon rather than myvi eventho myvi is cheaper… why did Uk fellas prefer passo if myvi was really not a downgraded product? ah… my lousy question again..[/quote]
p2 nautica was CBU japan, like the OEM rush and be-go, nothing downgraded. but it does have G protect could priced w/o G tax.[/quote]
What i meant by "downgraded version" was myvi.. not Rush.. :)
err.. let's try to compare OEM Rush price w/o tax with Nautica price without tax.. since everyone know that T brand (foreign) tax's was higher right? and P2 brand tax's was lower due to "National car" status.. tq… by doing this, we will know who is cheaper and who is pricey…
I've take a hold Exora door handle, opened and closed the door for about 5 times, when i went to P1 showroom last a few days.. it's never feel crack or what so ever (and ppl will called me a p1 supporter)
And due to still no complain about the crack or broken door handles, we can't assuming that Exora door handles was made from a low plastic quality.. just let's the time to tell…
[quote comment="233541"]As for you who said the Exora built quality is good, Take a hold of the Door handle, and open the door, The handle feels like it's gonna crack, feels too plasticky not as solid as Toyota CAMRY/ALTIS/VIOS or even P2 MYVI…[/quote]
henryee,
my fiance's myvi premium aged less than 10mths, but the door plastic panel inside has come out of its place. rm50k and i still got this problem?
later at 20k km service i'll ask SC to fix that.
btw, i didn't experienced that with my mom's gen2.
as for me, i find that the plastic used in exora is at least on par with myvi, if not better ;)
[quote comment="233560"][quote comment="233541"]As for you who said the Exora built quality is good, Take a hold of the Door handle, and open the door, The handle feels like it's gonna crack, feels too plasticky not as solid as Toyota CAMRY/ALTIS/VIOS or even P2 MYVI…[/quote]
henryee,
my fiance's myvi premium aged less than 10mths, but the door plastic panel inside has come out of its place. rm50k and i still got this problem?
later at 20k km service i'll ask SC to fix that.
btw, i didn't experienced that with my mom's gen2.
as for me, i find that the plastic used in exora is at least on par with myvi, if not better ;)[/quote]
It's definitely not better, coz once u hold it and it feels different with others door handle, and it is not from psychological effect.
[quote comment="233564"][quote comment="233560"][quote comment="233541"]As for you who said the Exora built quality is good, Take a hold of the Door handle, and open the door, The handle feels like it's gonna crack, feels too plasticky not as solid as Toyota CAMRY/ALTIS/VIOS or even P2 MYVI…[/quote]
henryee,
my fiance's myvi premium aged less than 10mths, but the door plastic panel inside has come out of its place. rm50k and i still got this problem?
later at 20k km service i'll ask SC to fix that.
btw, i didn't experienced that with my mom's gen2.
as for me, i find that the plastic used in exora is at least on par with myvi, if not better ;)[/quote]
It's definitely not better, coz once u hold it and it feels different with others door handle, and it is not from psychological effect.[/quote]
ouh ya… the feelings….. hmmm it's subjective right… u feel like it's gonna break.. others didn't feel like that… so how to judge that? u right and they wrong??
comparing both (myvi n exora).. definitely i feel exora handle r on par with myvi…
BTW why on earth are we comparing myvi n exora???
[quote comment="233541"]As for you who said the Exora built quality is good, Take a hold of the Door handle, and open the door, The handle feels like it's gonna crack, feels too plasticky not as solid as Toyota CAMRY/ALTIS/VIOS or even P2 MYVI.
I think P1 is using those EASILY BREAK plastic handle to mount their door handle,
because if u go to their service centre to complain, they will say this to u,"Tauke, apa u nak ekspek dr kereta MPV BAWAH RM76K? Barang murah adalah ini mcm punya lah", last time my friend's RM 30K Proton Saga power window rosak, water sipping through the window glass(1 weeks after he got his car), stupid door won't open even the key opener won't get it open and somemore needs to spade the door in order to open the door, Air cond spoilt after 1 month cars, and all those problems comes in 1 month after he got his car.
And u know what, that time he buy this Proton Saga during promotion period whick cost him RM 29999, and the words that he heard from the Proton Mechanic is "Kereta murah mcm ni, apa u nak ekspek?", Sigh….Their mechanic said those words to u after u spend ur hard-earned money on the Proton.[/quote]
So,what do you aspect for an mpv below RM66K?…
Video for Passo Sette…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBGRbETIWNY
[quote comment="233578"][quote comment="233564"][quote comment="233560"][quote comment="233541"]As for you who said the Exora built quality is good, Take a hold of the Door handle, and open the door, The handle feels like it's gonna crack, feels too plasticky not as solid as Toyota CAMRY/ALTIS/VIOS or even P2 MYVI…[/quote]
as for me, i find that the plastic used in exora is at least on par with myvi, if not better ;)[/quote]
It's definitely not better, coz once u hold it and it feels different with others door handle, and it is not from psychological effect.[/quote]
ouh ya… the feelings….. hmmm it's subjective right… u feel like it's gonna break.. others didn't feel like that… so how to judge that? u right and they wrong??
comparing both (myvi n exora).. definitely i feel exora handle r on par with myvi…
BTW why on earth are we comparing myvi n exora???[/quote]
agree with u.
feeling is subjective.
i hope the so-called "feeling" of this d46t's handle is on par with myvi.
hahaha :D
p2 kalau keluar keta baru, pembeli kena beli cepat2. lagi lambat,lagi rugi. sebab (contoh myvi)downgraded version bukan hanya bagi passo ke myvi, tetapi antara myvi dengan myvi pun kena downgraded.kat p1 plak lain citer. if kuar keta, tunggu la dlm setahun ke… sbb nak bagi settle masalah yg mungkin timbul. depa upgrade mana yg patut.
[quote comment="233501"]
you have the answer, RM59k – RM79k. with tax should be RM118k – RM158k.
cure to hear your comment.[/quote]
i got a mistake. that’s passo sette price. as i know myvi, passo, boon have a similar priced. i am correct it…
price without tax (1.3L, 2WD, AT)
Myvi RM40k – RM47k (in Malaysia)
passo RM40k – RM50k (1,080,000yen – 1,340,000yen) (in Japan)
boon RM44 – RM50k (1,190,000yen – 1,350,000yen) (in Japan)
this time perodua really want to compete. mcam G want to adil for rakyat .but G will support P1 .kita bleh pilih P1 or P2.
perodua bleh la wat kluar harga murah exterior lawa ,keta dah ade cuma rebagde je..
400th comment!! lol
[quote comment="233578"][quote comment="233564"][quote comment="233560"][quote comment="233541"]As for you who said the Exora built quality is good, Take a hold of the Door handle, and open the door, The handle feels like it's gonna crack, feels too plasticky not as solid as Toyota CAMRY/ALTIS/VIOS or even P2 MYVI…[/quote]
henryee,
my fiance's myvi premium aged less than 10mths, but the door plastic panel inside has come out of its place. rm50k and i still got this problem?
later at 20k km service i'll ask SC to fix that.
btw, i didn't experienced that with my mom's gen2.
as for me, i find that the plastic used in exora is at least on par with myvi, if not better ;)[/quote]
It's definitely not better, coz once u hold it and it feels different with others door handle, and it is not from psychological effect.[/quote]
ouh ya… the feelings….. hmmm it's subjective right… u feel like it's gonna break.. others didn't feel like that… so how to judge that? u right and they wrong??
comparing both (myvi n exora).. definitely i feel exora handle r on par with myvi…
BTW why on earth are we comparing myvi n exora???[/quote]
Bcuz we're comparing their door handle feel?
Msians mmg pelik…… selama ni kutuk proton tin milo la, xde airbag xde ABS, xde ni xde tu……
Dah bagi masih nak komplen?!?! Yg lawaknya keter yg mmg mcm tin milo, mementang pakai T/P2 badge je puji melambung plak, sampaikan ke door handle pun nk compare. Meh kita crash test dua-dua, tgk sapa lagi selamat, nak tak?
Macam la ada salesman jual kata "beli la myvi. Door handle dia lagi solid drp Exora."
Mmg nmpk sgt mentaliti kita x kisah psal safety. Pura-pura ckp concerned psal safety tu setakat point utk bash proton je…… bila proton da kasi safety, ada je masih nk bash……
Pasni apa pulak? Teh tarik hook kat P2 MPV ni boleh tahan max luggage 999kg, manakala Exora 3kg je? Meter panel P2 MPV warna biru lagi cantik drp Exora nye warna merah?
[quote comment="233544"]
What i meant by "downgraded version" was myvi.. not Rush.. :)
err.. let's try to compare OEM Rush price w/o tax with Nautica price without tax.. since everyone know that T brand (foreign) tax's was higher right? and P2 brand tax's was lower due to "National car" status.. tq… by doing this, we will know who is cheaper and who is pricey…[/quote]
i am wrong, Nautica have 50% G tax(w/o G protected). notional product tax is 15%.
price without tax (1.5L, AT, 4WD)
Nautica RM57k – RM60 in Malaysia
Be-go RM65k – RM75k (1,760,952yen – 2,018,095yen) in Japan
Rush RM68k – 78k (1,849,000yen – 2,119,000yen) in Japan
i think D46T only have 2WD, so i compare with the 2WD price.
price without tax (1.5L, AT, 2WD)
D46T RM??k – RM66k in Malaysia
Passo Sette RM52k – RM66k (1,419,04yen – 1,776,190yen) in Japan
Boon Luminas RM54k – RM66k (1,461,905yen – 1,790,476yen) in Japan
Paul, i think you have know D46T prices.
1)Apapun Naza Citra is so affordable nowdays only RM:53k.
2)Why P2 take long time to launch this MPV they just only change toyota badge to 'P'.
3)If there any leak photo from P2 worker like have been done by P1 as early promotion for their company.
Perodua just to show only the dashboard…
in fact it smaller than wira ( 4180 compare to 4270 mm )…
wanna this size of MPV?…. sigh
[quote comment="233601"][quote comment="233501"]
you have the answer, RM59k – RM79k. with tax should be RM118k – RM158k.
cure to hear your comment.[/quote]
i got a mistake. that’s passo sette price. as i know myvi, passo, boon have a similar priced. i am correct it…
price without tax (1.3L, 2WD, AT)
Myvi RM40k – RM47k (in Malaysia)
passo RM40k – RM50k (1,080,000yen – 1,340,000yen) (in Japan)
boon RM44 – RM50k (1,190,000yen – 1,350,000yen) (in Japan)[/quote]
Ok, good.. let's try to compare the gadgets, and the safety features?
[quote comment="233633"]
Bcuz we're comparing their door handle feel?
Msians mmg pelik…… selama ni kutuk proton tin milo la, xde airbag xde ABS, xde ni xde tu……
Dah bagi masih nak komplen?!?! Yg lawaknya keter yg mmg mcm tin milo, mementang pakai T/P2 badge je puji melambung plak, sampaikan ke door handle pun nk compare. Meh kita crash test dua-dua, tgk sapa lagi selamat, nak tak?
Macam la ada salesman jual kata "beli la myvi. Door handle dia lagi solid drp Exora."
Mmg nmpk sgt mentaliti kita x kisah psal safety. Pura-pura ckp concerned psal safety tu setakat point utk bash proton je…… bila proton da kasi safety, ada je masih nk bash……
Pasni apa pulak? Teh tarik hook kat P2 MPV ni boleh tahan max luggage 999kg, manakala Exora 3kg je? Meter panel P2 MPV warna biru lagi cantik drp Exora nye warna merah?[/quote]
betul… betul… belum ada yg crack ataupun broken, cuma ada feel crack pun dah jadi isu besar.. atau, betul ke ada feel crack.?. aku bukak tutup pintu Exora sampai 5 kali last time aku gi P1 showroom.. takder pun rasa crack.. rasa crack takder, rasa nak angkat terus je Exora masa tu ada hahaha.. tapi sabar.. sabar.. aku nak yg manual.. ;)
aku pernah dgr org komplen (kat thread ni), apabila pintu Exora ditutup tidak berbunyi "coupe" mcm conti car.. bagi aku yg dah test bukak tutup pintu Exora, bunyi dia minimal.. sedap je bunyi nya.. terasa solid.. yg paling bestnya, semasa ditutup, tidak perlu dihempas kuat-kuat.. aku heran, bunyi pun boleh jadi isu? bunyi bukak tutup pintu myvi berbunyi "coupe" ke?
Aku pun heran dgn pemikiran org malaysia nih.. pernah dulu aku dgr org komplen pasal bentuk keta proton.. savvy terutamanya.. org kata, "kenapa tak buat rupa mcm keta jepun"? "cuba buat headlamp ala ala honda ke, ubahsuai sikit baru cantik".. bila proton dah buat mcm tu, org komplen, "lampu depan copy honda, takder indentiti ker!!?" ada yg cakap mcm wish la.. mcm grandis la.. ada jugak org BODOH cakap yg Exora copy ataupun sama platform dgn Chery eastar!! tahniah org malaysia.. kekalkan mentaliti mcm ni.. nescaya kita takkan maju.. sekian.. wassalam..
[quote comment="233713"][quote comment="233601"][quote comment="233501"]
you have the answer, RM59k – RM79k. with tax should be RM118k – RM158k.
cure to hear your comment.[/quote]
i got a mistake. that’s passo sette price. as i know myvi, passo, boon have a similar priced. i am correct it…
price without tax (1.3L, 2WD, AT)
Myvi RM40k – RM47k (in Malaysia)
passo RM40k – RM50k (1,080,000yen – 1,340,000yen) (in Japan)
boon RM44 – RM50k (1,190,000yen – 1,350,000yen) (in Japan)[/quote]
Ok, good.. let's try to compare the gadgets, and the safety features?[/quote]
myvi doesn't have 6 airbag system and ISOFIX.
Hai paultan, hope u can tell perodua to change the meter panel, very ugly put at the center. Da meter panel just for driver, not for all all penumpang maaa…
[quote comment="233727"]
i got a mistake. that’s passo sette price. as i know myvi, passo, boon have a similar priced. i am correct it…
price without tax (1.3L, 2WD, AT)
Myvi RM40k – RM47k (in Malaysia)
passo RM40k – RM50k (1,080,000yen – 1,340,000yen) (in Japan)
boon RM44 – RM50k (1,190,000yen – 1,350,000yen) (in Japan)[/quote]
Ok, good.. let's try to compare the gadgets, and the safety features?[/quote]
myvi doesn't have 6 airbag system and ISOFIX.[/quote]
front crash bar? side crash bar? chasis strength? passo's rear brake drum or disc? suspension system? ;)
[quote comment="233868"]
front crash bar? side crash bar? chasis strength? passo's rear brake drum or disc? suspension system? ;)[/quote]
And dont forget the engine..
[quote comment="233869"]
front crash bar? side crash bar? chasis strength? passo's rear brake drum or disc? suspension system? ;)
And dont forget the engine..[/quote]
I don't know, i don't have a myvi/boon/passo, you too, better ask si-fu the p1man or we should asking Paul please to find the answer.
industri pemotoran ni memang banyak ragam.. korang kena paham…
kalo kita syik copy n paste apa yg best nyer
pastu nak test kete bukan dengan hempas pintu kuat-kuiat ketuk body kete..
kalu kete proton wat body cam kren tata, agak yer patah riuk tulang korang
ada sebab n munsabab engineering badan kete ada lembut..yg penting bukan chasis yg lembut…
kete ni bukan sekadar nak naik je.. sedap matas memandang… tapi kena pikir, performance, driving, stability, n macam2 lagi..
n satu lagi…
kalu nak tau lagi lebih lanjut , bljr pandai2
biler dah masuk U, bljr engineeerng,, korang paham sumer yg berkaitan ngn keter,…
Richard Hammond(presenter on BBC's Top Gear) have a test drive review.
"No jokes, this is a good-looking car. But if it looks familiar, that's because this is a Daihatsu Sirion in all but name. You see it costs billions to develop a new car – you design them on computers then build lots of them to crash into walls. So Perodua let someone else do it and spent their money sticking a new badge on it.
But they kept a bit back to spend on styling. Which is why, even though it shares bits and pieces with the Sirion, the Myvi is better looking…
…So under seven grand for a good-looking car, built in a factory shared with Toyota, which handles as well as a Yaris, does nearly 50mpg with a three-year warranty – yes please."
i wonder he had hiding some more.
"You see it costs billions to develop a new car – you design them on computers then build lots of them to crash into walls"
-Not everybody know this.. due to some of them said, "why proton cars are overpriced?" "why did still selling an ages model and didn't develop new model on each year?" "why still come with Campro 1.6 engine?" "why still using mitsu gearbox?" bla bla bla… The answer for all this question is, they need a support to archive a faster return of invesment (ROI).. that want they sell their cars in the global market as well.. the most difficult part to develop was a gearbox. That why proton still didn't have their own gearbox.. "You see it costs billions to develop a new car"
"But they kept a bit back to spend on styling. Which is why, even though it shares bits and pieces with the Sirion, the Myvi is better looking"
-yea.. i do agree that myvi is better looking than sirion.. but the most concern for European was the safety.. that why a dirt cheap price kelisa didn't sell well in there.. ;)
[quote comment="232286"]nmpk sngat yg perodua ni gelojoh… bila proton nak kuarkan savvy.. sebok nk kuarkan myvi…bila proton nk kuarkan mpv plak, pun same nk kuarkan mpv… nmpak sangat perodua nie nk nk fight…agaknya klu proton nak kuarkan bajak sawah… pun perodua nie nk keluarkan bajak sawah gak…hahaha…. lu pikir la sendiri[/quote]
dengar cerita perodua nak lancar dulu…. tapi diminta tangguh supaya proton lancar dulu…biasa la syarikat kerajaan, nanti tak laku lak exora.
Dalaman kemas dan cantik…meter lampu biru.
Selamat Bersaing.
Proton dan Produa dah ada peminat masing masing.
[quote comment="233888"][quote comment="233869"]
front crash bar? side crash bar? chasis strength? passo's rear brake drum or disc? suspension system? ;)
And dont forget the engine..[/quote]
I don't know, i don't have a myvi/boon/passo, you too, better ask si-fu the p1man or we should asking Paul please to find the answer.[/quote]
y not ask p2man? any p2man here? halooo
thankyou, have a nice days with you, i respect you as a malaysian try your best to help our national automobile manufacturer.
“You see it costs billions to develop a new car – you design them on computers then build lots of them to crash into walls”
we buy p1 to help p1 develop new model, we buy p2 to help p2 rebadge new model.
“But they kept a bit back to spend on styling. Which is why, even though it shares bits and pieces with the Sirion, the Myvi is better looking”
i hope D46T better than sette.
[quote comment="233888"][quote comment="233869"]
front crash bar? side crash bar? chasis strength? passo's rear brake drum or disc? suspension system? ;)
And dont forget the engine..[/quote]
I don't know, i don't have a myvi/boon/passo, you too, better ask si-fu the p1man or we should asking Paul please to find the answer.[/quote]
why need p1 man to answer P2 question?? engineer, designer, Salesman P2 mana? tido kaaa??
Info on Passo Sette:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBGRbETIWNY
[quote comment="233861"]Hai paultan, hope u can tell perodua to change the meter panel, very ugly put at the center. Da meter panel just for driver, not for all all penumpang maaa…[/quote]
But P2 onli rebadge it, dun think they wanna waste effort changing the placement of the meter… imagine my grandma sitting at back and looking at the meter … hey boy!!! y drive so fast ah ? slow down !!! u wan die ah ? when she sees the meter showing 100kmh easily..
ya yaaa.. bring your grandma work/office, shop, dinner, makan2, shoping ikan, sayur, chatting2 with members, TT, family day… so grandma can enjoy to see meter, hopefully meter is last thing to see before die…hehehheh
that car not for grandma laa…
it for convenient works, send kids to school bla bla, bring grandma..hmm
haa..this incomming per2 not for people who have grandma…
others that that..no problem…grandma not suitable….elergic meter…:p
ok apa meter kat tengah? aku suka! nak beli Estima aku xmampu, at least ada chance aku nak keter mpv,meter kat tgh,seat bersambung kat depan,gear kat dashboard.pedulik ape yg lain,aku rakyat msia duit ada la skit.org banyak duit gi la beli Exora ke Rondo ke,kurang skit waiting time aku :)
[quote comment="234179"]Info on Passo Sette:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBGRbETIWNY[/quote…
Kalau P2 MPV nie sama macam tu dengan harga RM58k tu kira murah le. Nie rasanya banyak yang kena buang, discard, nipiskan & pelbagai lagi tapi dijual dgn harga RM50k ke RM66k. Hmmmm…..;(
I just bought Exora. Very much regretted.
[quote comment="234463"][quote comment="234179"]Info on Passo Sette:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBGRbETIWNY[/quote…
Kalau P2 MPV nie sama macam tu dengan harga RM58k tu kira murah le. Nie rasanya banyak yang kena buang, discard, nipiskan & pelbagai lagi tapi dijual dgn harga RM50k ke RM66k. Hmmmm…..;([/quote]
rasanye tak mungkin rm66k tu… tak logik untuk perodua… klu tgk pricing perodua…kete viva yang halus macam bilis tu pun harga punye la mahal, ni kan pulak mpv..secara logik..tak mungkin…lain la kalau tayar,pintu,brake tu perodua buat optional part.. logik gak la… lagi satu, mpv nih utk org2 yg lightweight je.. kalau size overweight mcm gambar yang rosmah mansor(sample) tu, lupe kan je.nak bernafas pun seksa nnt.
i like what Streamz said on last msg..
kurang la sikit waiting list..heheh
its right….dont buy p2..go for exora….hmmmmm
at least not la boring…if not too many p2 mpv on the road….
let P1 exora..belambak on the road..sakit mata memandang…
semua mampu kata kan….
P2 MPV kalau jual RM 70 pun aku beli…sebab …ntah laa…
sebab duit aku lee…..aku punya pasal laaa….
salam..common r kltrue..you shouldn't regret book the exora…be proud using true malaysia product….
[quote comment="234615"]I just bought Exora. Very much regretted.[/quote]
I am sorry to hear that about your regret. Take it easy.
[quote comment="234179"]Info on Passo Sette:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBGRbETIWNY[/quote…
Wow ! Global model sold internationally !
[quote comment="234615"]I just bought Exora. Very much regretted.[/quote]
If u dont mind, u can post ur Exora's pics in here.. atleast u've proof that u've bought home 1 exora..
[quote comment="234615"]I just bought Exora. Very much regretted.[/quote]
really aarr? really doubting that u actualy bought exora…
[quote comment=”232294″]woa….very nice interior…………….but where is the handbrake? behind brake?[/quote
handbrake next to brake pedal.
stereng tak cun!
lain2 ok la sb ciplak keta jepun (honda)
mgkin bukan ciplak tapi beli design kot.
[quote comment="234708"]i like what Streamz said on last msg..
kurang la sikit waiting list..heheh
its right….dont buy p2..go for exora….hmmmmm
at least not la boring…if not too many p2 mpv on the road….
let P1 exora..belambak on the road..sakit mata memandang…
semua mampu kata kan….
P2 MPV kalau jual RM 70 pun aku beli…sebab …ntah laa…
sebab duit aku lee…..aku punya pasal laaa….[/quote]
P2 MPV RM60k ja
And it's should be called Footbrake..
based on the user manual of sette, it called parkingbrake.
yea.. handbrake for parking purpose oso ma.. ;)
hi…like i mentioned last week, i went 2 c in actual d display unit in MSAM Plaza Angsana, JB albeit only the insides of it. There was a LCD showing 3D views of its exterior. An Exora was also located within the vicinity about 1 carpark away. Good 2 c 4 comparison. Here goes:
Both cars cater for different market segment.
Exora: for big families ie. with more than 3-4 children or with additional family members usually along the ride such as grandparents. Larger and appears to be a Full-fledge MPV in the mold of Mitsubishi Grandis (look somewhat similar) or Toyota Wish/Innova. However, engine capacity 1.6L… hmmm….
P2 MPV: for small and young families say 1-3 children without additional family members. More like a a mini-MPV in the mold of Toyota Avanza, Hyundai Matrix. Its overall outlook appears to be more on the Cutesy side. Actually reminds me of Nissan Cube or the Mitsuoka Cute. The mini-MPVish types are sort of the "in" thing in Japan as current Japanese families usually consist of only 2-3 children.
I personally prefer the Perodua MPV as it looks less conservative and more contemporary. Tenuk colour insides looks cute and externals from Passo Sette's looks appears current. Exora aint my cup of tea i guess. It looks bulky, large and more traditional. Maybe these suit the majority of customers especially age range of 35+.
[quote comment="233371"]agin.. i paste the pic of HONDA STEPWAGON dashboard…
oso dark color and very popular in Japan.. stepwagon is typically BOXY shape..then how come u said this downgraded sette is trendy design??prrfthh
http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/2427/dsc00314b…
honda stepwagon new dashboard…
http://www.honda.co.jp/STEPWGN/webcatalogue/inter…
As i mention before, P2 sure will take the dail control as they interior & lots ppl said it nice, looks modern. Hmmmm….. i guess what most T badge supporters said & this is what i expected. Anyway congrat to P2 for newly rebadge Mini MPV that some of P2 support said that P2 have to sell the design to parent just to get cheap mold that cost about 2mill…. Clap.. clap.. clap.. !. P2 selling point after this, Engine 1.5L sure can overtake Exora, light color interior make you feel comfort.<============== apekah? ko ni agak2 la.. nak over take ape nyer.. exora tu bukan gune campro 1.6 tapi campro cps 1.6…. engine die lagi power dari grand livina kot… kalo avanza nak oertake livina pon x leh… camne la produa yg gune engine yg same ngan avanza ni nak overtake exora yg lagi power dari livine tu… (livina<— livina 1.6)
SAPE KAT ATAS TADI CAKAP TOYOYA NGAN DAIHATSU JOIN PRODUA… DAH PRODUA TU DAIHATSU YG PUNYE… PRODUA TU KAN LEBIH KURANG ANAK SYARIKAT DAIHATSU JE… LEBIH DARI 50 PERATUS SAHAM PRODUA DAIHATSU YG PUNYE.. MESTILA DIA SOKONG.. KALO PRODUA RUGI, RUGI LA DAIHATSU… KALAU DAIHATSU RUGI LAK, TOYOTA LA YG RUGI… CAMNE NAK JELASKAN.. AKU PON DAH PENING NGAN AYAT AKU NI… HAHA…
[quote comment="235945"]SAPE KAT ATAS TADI CAKAP TOYOYA NGAN DAIHATSU JOIN PRODUA… DAH PRODUA TU DAIHATSU YG PUNYE… PRODUA TU KAN LEBIH KURANG ANAK SYARIKAT DAIHATSU JE… LEBIH DARI 50 PERATUS SAHAM PRODUA DAIHATSU YG PUNYE.. MESTILA DIA SOKONG.. KALO PRODUA RUGI, RUGI LA DAIHATSU… KALAU DAIHATSU RUGI LAK, TOYOTA LA YG RUGI… CAMNE NAK JELASKAN.. AKU PON DAH PENING NGAN AYAT AKU NI… HAHA…[/quote]
Takper, suruh je dia org rugi… aiman tak kisah… ;)
[quote comment="235999"][quote comment="235945"]SAPE KAT ATAS TADI CAKAP TOYOYA NGAN DAIHATSU JOIN PRODUA… DAH PRODUA TU DAIHATSU YG PUNYE… PRODUA TU KAN LEBIH KURANG ANAK SYARIKAT DAIHATSU JE… LEBIH DARI 50 PERATUS SAHAM PRODUA DAIHATSU YG PUNYE.. MESTILA DIA SOKONG.. KALO PRODUA RUGI, RUGI LA DAIHATSU… KALAU DAIHATSU RUGI LAK, TOYOTA LA YG RUGI… CAMNE NAK JELASKAN.. AKU PON DAH PENING NGAN AYAT AKU NI… HAHA…[/quote]
Takper, suruh je dia org rugi… aiman tak kisah… ;)[/quote]
Erk… kalau diaorang rugi, nanti rugi plak P2 supporters sbb dah rugi beli kereta rugi. nanti rugi plak mereka sebab rugi jual kereta diaorang sbb harga rugi. kerugian itu adalah mereka yg rugi…. tapi rugi tak tengok diaorang rugi beli. ?????? apa aku cakap nie…… hahahahaha :)
pemegang saham p2
UMW Corporation Sdn Bhd 38% (dikuasai/dipegang? oleh kerajaan)
Daihatsu Motor Co. Ltd. 20% (jepun)
MBM Resources Bhd 20% (malaysia)
PNB Equity Resources Corporation Sdn Bhd 10% (malaysia)
Mitsui & Co. Ltd 7% (jepun)
Daihatsu (Malaysia) Sdn Bhd 5% (syarikat jepun di malaysia)
sila beli p1 punya jika berdasarkan dengan % pemegangan saham, sekira kamu ingin menunjukkan sokongan kepada kerajaan dalam bidang automobile.
mean,
support p1 = support government = support malaysia
Yes… support the government and buy a P1…. for those who cant afford imported cars… well, the next best thing is to go for so called re-badges…. ever wonder how come the P1 are suddenly overwhelmed with such good publicity and feedback overnight since the Gen2?
Hi guys…
I spotted a new video at U-Tube with title: Perodua Model Baharu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjDKqJ53mlE&fe…
Wat u guys opinion about this?
The clip on the youtube link (Perodua Model Baharu) u've provided earlier is not the new P2 MPV ler…..it P2 concept… i tink it never really able to take off… d design looks outdated and old….. looks more like a bigger Kancil only…. interior sux…. exterior bland……
yea its not mpv, but this may give us some clue why P2 test the D46T, maybe they want to feel how to be a true manufacturer, hehe :)
this clip from Youtube is really good. It really shows Toyota Passo Sette @ P2 MPV's strengths. But… i wud think P2 is testing the car becos they r actually removing some perks and replacing with some cheaper materials in P2 MPV. maybe these will NOT be included (based on the clip only):
1- GPS unit
2- Rear view camera
3- Seats with strengthened head pads
4- Higher quality seats covers-Passo Sette's version is pale beige and grayish
5- DVD player
6- Tinted screens & windows
7- Front and side airbags
8- Total of 9 colour scheme selection
Sigh……
Worse still if it carries a different engine from the VVTI 1.5L from T? Bad news. The strength of Passo Sette is Economical drive… not power ya
this clip from Youtube is really good. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBGRbETIWNY It really shows Toyota Passo Sette @ P2 MPV's strengths. But… i wud think P2 is testing the car becos they r actually removing some perks and replacing with some cheaper materials in P2 MPV. maybe these will NOT be included (based on the clip only):
1- GPS unit
2- Rear view camera
3- Seats with strengthened head pads
4- Higher quality seats covers-Passo Sette's version is pale beige and grayish
5- DVD player
6- Tinted screens & windows
7- Front and side airbags
8- Total of 9 colour scheme selection
Sigh……
Worse still if it carries a different engine from the VVTI 1.5L from T? Bad news. The strength of Passo Sette is Economical drive… not power ya
[quote comment="236097"]Hi guys…
I spotted a new video at U-Tube with title: Perodua Model Baharu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjDKqJ53mlE&fe…
Wat u guys opinion about this?[/quote]
yuck… hopeless… like a kelisa sette ugly then passo sette.
[quote comment="232370"][quote comment="232319"]exora gonna have hard time….hopefully proton gonna modify something…like putting new engine…lol…dont be surprise if this perodua mpv can overtake exora with an ease….can the foot handbrake really cool….proton need to intro that as well…[/quote]
confuse, when time for P1 came with 1.6, then everybody claim for the highest new engine. Hey guy, why don't you asked P2 to put this new MPV with new engine too, 1.5 is too la maaaa…
very double standard mind la.. macam amerika…[/quote]
agreed with u bro..as consumer we can say anythg 4 up our satisfction..right?
by the way, about p2 mini mpv…ideal for midle class people..more choice 4 malaysian..
perotiga..nice comment.
I would said this is a excellent design!!!
If the exterior use Daihatsu Luminous body kits,that will be perfect!!!!
I'm sure D46T will become second Myvi in Malaysia which is top selling car of the year.
harga terlalu mahal kalau di banding kan dengan kereta luar yang ber quality lagi tinggi..dan tahan lasak tak banyak masaalah
quality dan harga ter lalu mahal kalau di banding kan kereta luar yang tak banyak masaalah
tak minat. banyak problem. HAMPEHHHHH
I think the interior is more overwhelmed then EXORA…. The texture of the instrument panel better than Exora…coz i think texture on the IP of Exora looks cheep image…n the steering finishing as well…But i prefer NAZA RONDO….although the price higher than both …but the exterior n Interior looks are most stylish n modern….thinking to buy one…
naza brand ada 2 je problem, spare part n harg cepat jatuh. nk beli boleh, tp guna sampai keta n owner jd arwah..huhuhu
mula2 aku da xcited da nak ambil sambar p2 mpv.. x jd cz footbrake pulek dah.. xsempat sampai umah, keta da b'pusing msk longkang.. tp kalu adalah manual version, aku terus beli la….. please m/t…..
i luv it bah!
any news for the launching date… cant wait for it..
Kalau nak beli…beli jer…tepuk dada tanya poket $$$…
Rakyat Malaysia sungguh pandai modification kalau dah beli apa yg kureng… pandai2 la adjust……
I think the war coming soon..cause perodua MPV cuming then i sure got big war…in my opinion this year or maybe next year Perodua MPV will awarded Top selling car….xD…Anyway…i had look the MPV…exterior on the front look similiar like myvi,the interior quit good looking,look like wish….
60k sumting….affordable,cheapness,and suitable..
What ever it is…I'll always support Malaysian products…
Name it Perodua Aurora
cantikkk!!!! syabass peroduo…..harga pon berpatutan!!!!!mesti beli……
org kata kalau keluaran perodua ni good quality kalau nak di bandingkan ngn proton…so,i ingat better beli MPV perodua la …lagi pon exora tu under power…x best langsung drive!!!!nyesal beli looo
apo ni… seat eh macam tompek duduk belakang eh mcm kek dalam bas mini yo…
3 seat in the front setahu aku di malaysia is banned.
hahah semua kat sini tengok interior cantik.prototype memang buat cantik.macam interior exora prototype pun lagi cantik dari nie.aku rasa nie memang part toyota betul.cuma steering je tukar logo.ye lah at least exora proton design sendiri.perodua just amik toyota design
rekabentuk sebenarnya penting dalam abad ini, kalo hanya pandai buat sendiri tapi tak nampak elok di pandang lebih baik tak payah, so nak satu-satu benda 2 laku dan sentiasa sedap di pandang biar buat design yang betul-betul cantik di awal pengeluaran satu-satu benda, biar tiru design sekurang-kurangnya nampak macam keta luar negara walaupun hakikatnya kereta tempatan.ingat yang penting jangan membazir, satu lagi pasal harga yang di tawarkan mestilah mengikut kemampuan bukannya pandai buat keta design x sampai ke mana tapi harga mengalahkan harga luar negara. so mana-mana yang berkenaan janganlah terasa hati, dan saya pun minta maaf sekiranya ada yang terasa.
Interior di atas adalah utk model Advance Edition. Harga dekat RM70k tuuu….huhuh~ but, perodua punya enjin mmg best, toyota nyer enjin kan… apa nak dikata….
igt semuanya sama cam contoh kat MSAM tu.. frustnya..
What happen to the Proton Designer? Me myself oso get frustrated… u guys can do better than that. I mean look out from the windows, all the civic, city, toyota,nissan got look and evolve..at least if we don't have that technology, we have a look…not like this one, too typical…definitely like kotak maggi. I'm proton supporters!!
highway 110 km/h for alza auto shld be:
http://carmaxspeed.blogspot.com/2010/06/perodua-alza-15-auto.html
4th : 110.00Kmh / 68.32Mph @ 2800 RPM
I bought Alza(advance version) 2 months ago. I notice the front tyre rim is easily get dirt and found that it was caused by the brake disc. I took it to Perodua service but was informed that it is normal and this is not an issue. I am very upset with Perodua and also very unsatisfied with the ALZA Quality. It doesn’t look like Alza has any value for Quality. Their support is deteriorated and lack of management responsibility. I feel Perodua brand is deteriorated too..what do you think?
Any perodua ALZA owner tell me how do you feel about Perodua ALZA and when do you owned it?? IS it lot of noise as the rain drop on the roof of the car?? what else?? any positive comment??