The Toyota Vios is doing well in placing itself among the best in terms of sales in Malaysia’s B-Segment vehicle class, even with strong opposition from the Honda City, as well as from the much cheaper Proton GEN2.
To help maintain the Vios’ strong stance in the segment especially that the new City is here, and to prove that Vios can also be used to take you from point A to point B swiftly, UMW Toyota Motor has been working around the clock to come up with an official TRD (Toyota Racing Development) performance and styling package to offer Vios drivers the option to make their city movers look a little more aggressive, and perform a little better in the engine performance and suspension departments.
The auto maker has transformed two standard Vios’ (Automatic S and manual J). Although still in the development stage, Toyota has decided to pass on both these cars to us to find out what we think. Before we move on to these upgraded rides, lets first check out the standard Toyota Vios S.
Continue reading after the jump.
Toyota Vios S Automatic
Design
The current Vios features an “organic” design style, with more curves and a more “roundish” look. Personally, I prefer the previous Vios, as it looks a little more “solid” and aggressive, over the current design language. With a design that, to me, is more suited to the opposite gender, the top of the line Vios S comes with a few more additional fitments over the base models that help improve its rather modest looks.
These include 15 inch 5-spoke alloy wheels, and an Aerokit which comprises of a front bumper spoiler, side skirting, and a trunk spoiler that helps the Vios feature a wider stance which is a good thing. The Vios S also comes with a chrome package can be seen on the rear license plate garnish and on the body side moulding.
There are also wing mirrors (power adjustable & retractable) with integrated signal lamps. Although the opinion on the exterior design is very much subjective, and that the large number of Vios’ on the road is a clear indication of how most of us feel about the car, I just wished that the exhaust tail pipe is straightened, instead of featuring a visible tip that points downwards.
Interior
The first thing I noticed as I got into the Vios S, is the very much noticeable finish quality of the dashboard, in terms of visible gaps that are not consistent. It looks as though its put together better, especially compared to the base Vios J series, which can be justified by the lower price tag. But wouldn’t it be good if both car models offer the same finish quality?
To me, with a height of 178 cm, sitting on the driver’s seat isn’t much of a problem, with decent legroom and headroom, but I feel that the steering angle can be further improved. Although the steering angle is adjustable, but I feel that the Vios can offer a better seating position if the steering can be tilted upwards a little more, perhaps by an inch.
With even an inch, it would give a person with an average height a more comfortable and sporty seating position. Even at maximum setting, the steering wheel is mounted rather too low, and it should prove to be a little difficult for a plus sized individual to feel completely comfortable behind the wheel.
The other thing about the Vios seating position is it’s rather high, more towards the typical sitting position of a car like the Honda Jazz rather than of a sedan. I know most women like this but it feels odd, like you’re sitting on a stool rather than nicely cosseted in a chair.
Apart from the above, the Toyota Vios is pretty much a decent place to be in, with easily reachable switches and buttons. The Vios S and G comes with a dashboard integrated audio system with steering mounted controls that features MP3 and WMA playback with a CD player, tuner as well as 6 speakers and a printed antenna. The Vios S also comes with a Multi Information Display (MID). To me, the centre mounted instrument panel isn’t much of a problem, and I did not find any difficulty getting used to it.
With a generous use of plastic that is justified by a rather affordable price tag, the Vios also features a comfortable rear cabin with adequate legroom and head clearance. The practicality of the interior is also enhanced with a total of three cup/bottle holders, excluding two bottle holders featured on the front door cards. The Vios also has a number of compartments, such as the ones both sides of the lower part centre console, as well as a storage compartment on the right side of steering wheel. The rear seat back rest can also be folded down via a 60:40 split (for all models expect J) to help increase its 400 litres trunk space.
Driving
The front wheel drive Toyota Vios features an inline 4-cylinder DOHC 16-valve 1.5 litre powerplant with VVT-i and, in the case of the Vios S, is mated to a 4 speed automatic with Super ECT and a gate shifter with ratios set at 2.847 for first,1.552 for second, 1.000 for third and 0.700 for fourth, and with reverse set at 2.343.
The Vios offers reasonable performance, especially when accelerating from a standstill. With a 1.5 litre engine what is tuned to produce the most amount of performance it can while consuming little fuel, the powerplant does its job pretty well overall.
During acceleration, there is no noticeable torque dip, while gear change, although not that quick, is rather smooth. The more I spend time with it, the more I notice that the gear ratios are tuned to offer better acceleration from speeds that are less then 100 km/h. On the highway, the revs on the engine settles at about 3,100 rpm, while traveling at 120 km/h in top gear, with reasonable wind noise. This feels rather high, but proves the shorter city-tuned gearing. It is at such speeds, acceleration proved to be a little on the heavy side of things. It drops a gear when you floor it, and acceleration also becomes highly depended on the gradient of the road. But end of the day, its a B-Segment people mover and at such a price, so I don’t expect it to act like a sports car.
Overall, engine performance is very decent, and considering my experience with the latest Honda City, I must say, that Toyota has done a slightly better job in this department. Although the City has 125HP and 145Nm of torque, while the Vios has 107HP and 141Nm of torque, the Vios has an upper hand. This may also be due to the lower kerb weight of the Vios. Compared to the City’s 1,140 kilograms weight, the Vios is lighter by 90 kilograms, at 1,050 kilograms. While driving on a downhill, the transmission kicks down a gear to make sure that the Vios is at its optimal gear position at such a condition.
Suspension wise, the Vios comes fitted with a MacPherson strut setup with stabilizer up front while the rear features a standard torsion beam. With its electric power steering, that isn’t too light (which is a good thing), the Vios also features good handling. Although it has hints of understeer and body roll, but I only noticed it when I pushed the car closer to its limits at sharper bends. Even on a long distance drive, the bump absorption is pretty good, leaving the car to go over certain road irregularities unnoticed.
Stopping power is up to expectations as well, with ventilated discs up front and solid discs at the back for Vios S and G while the Vios E and J features drum brakes at the rear end. With decent NVH, the Vios performs very well as a city car, and it can even be taken for long distance journeys without a fuss.
Getting in and out of heavy traffic as well as parking spots is something the Vios is very good at. Overall in my opinion, the Vios S is a nice city car, with its RM 88,325 (with insurance) price tag. Other models include Vios G Automatic, which does not come with the Aerokit that goes for RM 85,025 while the Vios E Automatic which comes with a 2-DIN Head Unit with MP3 and WMA compatible CD Player as well as 14 inch alloy wheels can be fetched for RM 79,425.
The base J range, that comes with a 1 DIN head unit with CD Player and steel wheels can be taken home for RM 73,525 for the automatic variant and a very affordable RM 69,825 for the 5 speed manual version. All models also come with warranty for 3 years, or for 100,000 kilometers, whichever comes first.
Other features
Other fitments the come with the Toyota Vios, among others include; dual SRS airbags (for Vios S and G, only driver’s airbag for E, and no air bags for J), ABS, EBD (Electronic Brake-force Distribution), Brake Assist, reverse sensor, collapsable steering column as well as Whiplash Injury Lessening (WIL) for the front seats.
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Toyota Vios S TRD (Automatic) and Toyota Vios J TRD (Manual)
Features
Toyota would be offering a number of styling and performance upgrades with its TRD package, but at the moment, it is still at the development stage, so expect additions (less likely) and omissions of certain features. As mentioned earlier, the auto maker has made available two variants, based on a Vios S and a Vios J. Both cars are finished with a number of TRD fitments including, TRD front and rear bumper spoilers as well as TRD side skirts, a TRD trunk lid spoiler, TRD fuel tank cap, 15 inch sports wheels, door visors (for the Vios S TRD) and the TRD Sportivo logo mounted on the trunk lid that make up the exterior upgrade.
On the inside, these cars feature different seats, TRD gear knobs as well as TRD pedal sets. The Vios S TRD is fitted with seats that are covered with TRD designed seat covers while the Vios J TRD is fitted with FIA full bucket seats. To help improve performance, Toyota has added a TRD radiator cap with 1.3 bar of pressure resistance, a TRD oil filler cap, a TRD air filter as well as sports suspension, that includes the TRD Sportivo suspension on the Vios S TRD that lowers the car by 15 mm and TIEN suspension that brings the Vios J closer to the ground by 45 mm. The springs on the Sportivo suspension is a little hard than the standard springs, while the TIES suspension features even harder springs and tuned dampers.
Among the above mentioned performance enhancing features, the only ones that really make the difference include the new suspension and the TRD air filter, which should bump up the horsepower by about 3 to 5hp (speculation only).
Driving: Toyota Vios S TRD (Automatic)
Visually, the Vios S TRD with the TRD bodykit treatment looks a little better than the Vios S with the Aerokit. Just like the Aerokit, it makes the Vios S TRD look a little more aggressive thanks to its wider and lower stance, at a higher level compared to the Aerokit. Inside, the Vios also looks sportier with the TRD gear knob, TRD pedals and TRD seat covers which I quite fancy.
All this aesthetic features help bring out some sportiness from the Vios. The driving experience is also improved, offering a sportier drive. The first thing I noticed is the slightly hardened suspension, compared the Vios S. Being stiffer, I had more confidence negotiating curves, thanks to reduced understeer and bodyroll at its limits. However, ride comfort is slightly compromised.
Although I did not notice much of it while driving it in the city, except when I went over potholes, I did definitely feel the difference when I got onto the highway, as every single bump on the road can be felt. But don’t get me wrong, it is not excessively stiff, just a little, which is tolerable. If Toyota plans to offer a sporty suspension option, this setting is perfect as its offers a very good balance between good ride quality and improved handling.
The next thing I noticed is the slight improvement in power delivery and a more engine note, thanks to TRD’s sports air filter. Especially while accelerating, I felt a slight improvement, with the needles on both on the rev meter as well as on the speedometer moving upwards that much quicker. Sound coming out of the engine is more noticeable, but it isn’t intrusive at all. Overall, I like what they have done with the Vios S TRD. It features a good trade off between comfort and performance, while looking better at the same time.
The only thing I have to complain, is about the lip on the front bumper. It is mounted a little too low, causing it to scrape the road surface if I go slightly faster over speed bumps. Although I can go slower, it still doesn’t change the fact that it scraps the cement surface while I made my way down the elevated parking lot of Gardens MidValley, no matter how slow I was driving. I feel there has to be at least an inch more in terms of ground clearance. Other than that, its perfect!
Driving: Toyota Vios J TRD (Manual)
The Vios J TRD, compared to the Vios S with the TRD treatment features racing bucket seats, as well as a suspension that is further tuned to offer race like handling and a MOMO sports steering wheel that is removable, with just a push of a button. The TEIN suspension, as mentioned earlier, is fitted with stiffer springs and dampers, while it brings the car lower to the ground by 45 mm. It is really quite low, in fact so low that Toyota had to remove the front lip from the original bodykit because it kept scraping the irregularities on the road. Other upgrades such as the TRD radiator cap and TRD air filter are retained.
With the manual, the acceleration performance is slightly better compared to the automatic transmission. As opposed to what I mentioned earlier during my initial test drive at the Sepang F1 Circuit, the gear lever now offers better tactility. Toyota has probably fine tuned it or probably the gear lever saw better days during the test Sepang. The lever offers a slick and precise feeling when shifting gears. The lever feels more properly weighted which is a very good thing.
The bucket seats are fixed and conform to FIA specifications, meaning they hug you like they never want to let you go, which is great when you take the car to the track, but not very practical for daily driving which involves frequent access and egress. The problem I faced with the Vios S TRD regarding the front bumper spoiler that is too low was not evident with the J TRD, as it was removed since this version is significantly lower than the S TRD, which would make it almost impossible to go over speed bumps, no matter how slow you drive. The fact that the suspension is so much stiffer than the Vios S TRD’s is really noticeable.
If I were to compare it with another car, It would be the Honda Civic Type R! It is very stiff, and too stiff for daily use. Unlike the Civic Type R, which is justified by it having a powerful motivator, the “super hard” and race like suspension would serve no purpose with a 107h powerplant. However, it does enable the Vios to offer excellent handling characteristics with understeer and bodyroll that is almost unnoticeable.
It gave me the confidence of pushing it harder, and it allowed me to do so. The TEIN suspension would be excellent for track driving, although I would not say the same for daily use. Toyota may also offer official TRD exterior decals, like the ones which are visible both these cars, but as mentioned earlier it is still in the development stage.
Conclusion
Overall, comparing both the Vios S and J TRD, I reckon that the upgrades performed on the Vios S, minus the front bumper spoiler, would be preferable for daily use, while offering a sportier ride compared to the standard Vios. It is more balanced, with a just “perfect” sports suspension that is easy to live with, compared to the more vigorous TIEN setup on the Vios J TRD. I also like Toyota’s take on the meaning of performance upgrades, that includes upgrades for improving engine output and handling of the car, unlike just esthetic or visual upgrades.
I will also prefer if Toyota can further improve the engine’s power output, via the package, by another 10HP perhaps? But that may prove to be heavy on the wallets of the buyers, as development cost may drive up the price tag of the upgrade package. On the other hand, buyers can also perform upgrades to hike up the horsepower via the aftermarket scene. We will update you as soon as Toyota launches the official TRD upgrade package for the Vios. Stay tuned!
Story by Harvinder Singh Sidhu
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Sohai Car. Rubbish
Finally, they put the TRD for testing. But not mistaken, Thailand version got turbo. Will Toyota bringing in this version?
1st!racing version of dugong..waulaweh..
[quote comment="236233"]Sohai Car. Rubbish[/quote]
HAHA
This is so call Sports????????????
Totally agreed with the writer, at least had a stroger engine output lar
[quote comment="236233"]Sohai Car. Rubbish[/quote]
It's more than SOhai, just another way to get more profit out of it.
Do it with the right way, Toyota
1 thing for sure.
they are not fast!
none of TRD car are champion.
period.
I can only say this is UMW marketing strategy in Malaysia… Just change the bodykit and the customers will hoo… haa… But for those petrolheads, this is bullshit! We need more power!
Is like the Myvi SE, is nothing in term of technical part! But the bodykit make it expensive…
[quote comment="236242"]I can only say this is UMW marketing strategy in Malaysia… Just change the bodykit and the customers will hoo… haa… But for those petrolheads, this is bullshit! We need more power!
Is like the Myvi SE, is nothing in term of technical part! But the bodykit make it expensive…[/quote]
myvi se=toyota..what can we expect. hahaha~ at least toyota should bring in their official performance part…same as well for p2.
we should call it toyolta (like a toyol that steal our money away)..it'll definitely be overprived..toyolta's desperate attempt to prove that their vios is not for amoi only…
rubbish.. 1.5L give out only 107hp?? even a 96 civic ek already gets 130ps out of 1.5L.. at 107hp who u expect u can beat? TRD never wins.
Actually there is a higher-powered version of the 1NZ-FE 1.5 liter in the Vitz in Japan, it makes 119 PS and 147Nm instead of our Vios 109 PS and 142Nm. UMW Toyota should consider bringing that engine in for the Vios TRD and make it a real sporty Vios. Right now there is some kind of overlap between the Vios TRD and the Vios S since both have bodykits.
http://paultan.org/archives/2008/03/06/toyota-vit…
i think the faster 1nz-fe makes more sense, it will create similar output to the 1.6 campro cps and suzuki swift sport. however at 1.5 litres, its still amazing!
The rear lights look like WAJA/Impian.
wow , TRD radiator cap !! wat else do u want !
fact of the matter is , pick up any gen2 manual non CPs it wil beat this vios anytime if u really want to use it on trackdays…and its ALOT cheaper…
im not impressed….and seriously the interior quality is NOT great , go to showroom n check , welding spots bonanza , really looks cheap inside….
is better than nothing(exterior).hope the price not cekik darah than the the current model…
[quote comment="236238"][quote comment="236233"]Sohai Car. Rubbish[/quote]
It's more than SOhai, just another way to get more profit out of it.
Do it with the right way, Toyota[/quote]
yea bro, do it the right way, n i luv ducks!!!!!!!!
one toyota sales rep told me the j spec manual runs 100kmh at 3000rpm.
is it?
How much more does the TRD version cost? Cant seem to find in in the write-up.
make it turbo…walla
vios TRD nyer interior dah smart..tapi design luar mmg takleh bla. enjin pun kecik. amende ntah. lupuskan je la design dugong nih!
better rims style n bigger wheel might hav been better for this version as it will look much sportier with 16/ 17 inch rims .. wat about da price paul? …how much is it more expensive than da current models?
This cosmetic change is rubbish. Slapping all TRD logo would just make that another ricer car, ain't worth the money, unless they put in a whole new engine or get the turbo engine in.
watafak , city has 120bhp only.
Macam biasa, goddies from toyota mesti buat nampak gempak. Hampeh, takat make up antar aje kedai "Abang". banyak body kit kat situ. Hmmmm…. :(
Not sure why people would want to buy this as there are better looking stock cars which you can trick out to look better
BOT the J-spec, exhaust to M7, Apexi open pod, E-manage U ….dyno to get about 140hp on wheels and another 15-18 Nm.
Remember to get better brakes and suspensions.
That's $20k. Remember…140hp on wheels….that's like ~155hp on the engine.
power up by 10hp like said, looks like just an exhaust work, and freer air filter.
not the actually the engine,
TRD should put in the 1NZ-FE 143hp bolt on turbo version, just like vios thai, or chg some component inside to allow it rev up to 7500rpm to produce ~150hp, just like the high revving 1.6L engine, such as 4AGE 4throttle blacktop 162hp at 7800rpm, or B16A VTEC 174hp at 7800rpm, or 4G92MIVEC 172hp at 7500rpm or the vicious B16B VTEC type-R 180hp at 8200rpm……
a 1.0 – 1.3L belta with upgrade to 1.5L engine and than dressing with TRD body kit can priced over rm 80k, hmm… UMW really want to make profit. better let p2 to rebadging as p2 dugong rm 60k to join again with his family – kancil, rusa, kelisa, puas(D46T) in the zoo.
gt fren work @ toyota tell me, the car wil be lauch around july, and will replace the sports version of the current line up.
toyotrash. Heard many vios customer cancelled order for exora. Well done exora for steal overpriced rubbish car market as well
A tons of ignorant ppl talking all nub craps here unjustifiably abt this sportier version of toyota vios..lmao..
Dump the bodykit and the wings as it adds weight. Won't do any good at that height would it? While you're at it, stick back to 14's but make it light. Vios has a good low weight don't add more pounds to it. For balancing maybe…but not
Do a port and polish, flowed, and maybe change to higher lift cams…you know basic stuff. You can get more than 10hp. These stuff the local tuners can do and you don't need the TRD price for this. Yeah of course it will void warranty. So what???
What TRD should do is a new chip. What's the use of having all those variables if you can't play with it.
Nice. Interesting. Potential car buyers will get a good run for their money.
[quote comment="236238"][quote comment="236233"]Sohai Car. Rubbish[/quote]
It's more than SOhai, just another way to get more profit out of it.
Do it with the right way, Toyota[/quote]
well, lets see things out of the box, sis & pals.
TRD has their niche market. To certain people, $$ is nothing, right?
[quote comment="236233"]Sohai Car. Rubbish[/quote]
totally agree!!!
[quote comment="236300"]Dump the bodykit and the wings as it adds weight. Won't do any good at that height would it? While you're at it, stick back to 14's but make it light. Vios has a good low weight don't add more pounds to it. For balancing maybe…but not
Do a port and polish, flowed, and maybe change to higher lift cams…you know basic stuff. You can get more than 10hp. These stuff the local tuners can do and you don't need the TRD price for this. Yeah of course it will void warranty. So what???
What TRD should do is a new chip. What's the use of having all those
variables if you can't play with it.[/quote]
if they do that…they need to price it at 130k at least to cover their basic profit requirements. then who gonna buy this piece of vios junk for 130k ?
The dugong dashboard is horrible.
THe car is so light, cant corner and feels like it will take off at any moment.
I wonder how fast that toyota TRD will go around the Top Gear track in the UK with the STIG driving it.
yuckss
Toyota….think only profits,no soul
Hope other carmaker wont follow similar footsteps
dunno why, still cannot get the interest in me to like this vios…still prefer the previous version.
Honestly, who wants all those sport upgrades when it only outputs 100 bhp with even lower whp! Total waste of money when its performance is not worthy for the track. Even in the looks department, its not that great.
Anybody who buys the TRD version would be a laughing stock. Low ride with hard sport suspension, together with recaro seats and momo wheels… what's the point?? Trying to look sporty is what this car is all about.
Interior really feel cheap..! dont buy this car! Even it cost you 80K, but i think 89K deserve a better interior than this.. Similar to kancil center dashboard.. dont you think..???
The Ultimate Poser's Car. All show and no go. even the show also ugly.
Owhhhhhh..Nooooo..
THE INTERIOR FEELS LIKE NEW SAGA… colour not nice….
the colour should be nice, to suit with TRD Bodykit… exterior ok..look sporty..
BUT… huh.. not nice interior… just like Saga interior, nothing attracted me..
tested honda city and vios both stock, i've got a definite answer which is the City.
[quote comment="236233"]Sohai Car. Rubbish[/quote]
lol, kanasai car from a kanasai manufacturer…..
TRD my ass, nothing impressive here….
[quote comment="236256"]wow , TRD radiator cap !! wat else do u want !
fact of the matter is , pick up any gen2 manual non CPs it wil beat this vios anytime if u really want to use it on trackdays…and its ALOT cheaper…
im not impressed….and seriously the interior quality is NOT great , go to showroom n check , welding spots bonanza , really looks cheap inside….[/quote]
What? Gen-2? ha ha ha…mabuk kot…
To think that 2,444 ppl bought this sohai car in March…… *facepalm*
Anytime, I'd take the Gen.2 CPS. That, is a proper car I can have fun on the road n on the track.
I remember I came across a time lap of Myvi stock vs Myvi race spec vs Savvy stock. Savvy pwned them all. That just speaks abt how sporty the real McCoy is, even in stock form.
N yet, there'd always be ppl who'd buy this rubbish.
this trd is mere cosmetic i would say,
if we want to talk about trd , be it a trd supercharger.
[quote comment="236256"]wow , TRD radiator cap !! wat else do u want !
fact of the matter is , pick up any gen2 manual non CPs it wil beat this vios anytime if u really want to use it on trackdays…and its ALOT cheaper…
im not impressed….and seriously the interior quality is NOT great , go to showroom n check , welding spots bonanza , really looks cheap inside….[/quote]
It seems that everyone here do agree that the Vios has lacked in terms of its interior finishings..who would want to buy an international brand with low quality outputs?i tested the Vios recently, exterior was okay but when u actually experience the interior aspects of this car, u will be greatly dissapointed & it should have been done more better..Sorry Vios..it's a no-no for me..
dugong is always a dugong no matter how you make u make up it.
racer wannabe.. shame on you toyota.
TRD – Toyota Retarded Development
Toyota… reliable, maybe. Exciting?… unlikely.
It is still a mystery to me why I ever owned a Corolla 15 years ago.
haha, its a vios, so it will sell, especially for racer boys who go ooh and ahh over the bucket seats and trd fitments, then go around racing like a maniac.
on the other hand, those who want more power, just drop in a K&N air filter and you get that much more powahhhhhh.
i wonder though, between the city, latio and vios, which one really is value for money? i'm inclining towards city, with latio as a close 2nd.
[quote comment="236347"]dugong is always a dugong no matter how you make u make up it.
racer wannabe.. shame on you toyota.[/quote]
yalah, never end with the lady dugong, shame on you toyota, just bring us the corolla axio/altis TRD lah.
i find this rather stupid and pointless, i think anybody can make better modifications to the vios
toyota think about quantity this time with come up with vios J and TRD spec … no standard ! so hai idea…
[quote comment=”236484″][quote comment=”236338″]To think that 2,444 ppl bought this sohai car in March…… *facepalm*
Anytime, I’d take the Gen.2 CPS. That, is a proper car I can have fun on the road n on the track.
I remember I came across a time lap of Myvi stock vs Myvi race spec vs Savvy stock. Savvy pwned them all. That just speaks abt how sporty the real McCoy is, even in stock form.
N yet, there’d always be ppl who’d buy this rubbish.[/quote]
C’mon lah bro… people buy vios because of their own personal preferences. You bought Gen.2 because your budget is below 60k… haha![/quote]
If vios is want you want then you get what a vios does….
Toyota malaysia not a motor company, all it does is just sell toyota’s so cannot expect much in development.
To me the honda city is better looking car.Not need fancy stickers and seats. Toyota is milking their product to the last drop. Just don’t squeeze it for them for some dugong body kit. At 89K i believe you can go for a better car all together.
A dugong will always be a dugong; for the rest of its life.
[quote comment="236323"]Owhhhhhh..Nooooo..
THE INTERIOR FEELS LIKE NEW SAGA… colour not nice….
the colour should be nice, to suit with TRD Bodykit… exterior ok..look sporty..
BUT… huh.. not nice interior… just like Saga interior, nothing attracted me..[/quote]
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Ya lor, This Vios TRD = look like a Saga Full Spec (40k) + "T" Emblem(40k)… haha..
i dunno why they comes with this interior… any "T" SA? explain please…
Although the new city is heavier than the current vios, city has more horses. Power to Weight ratio for both cars are quite similar, I don't see how the vios has upperhand.
To those who said vios interior quality is very good, there must be something wrong. I've been in the S and J spec, and to my surprise, the plastics are NO better than Gen2/Persona!
Only fanboys will say vios is a good car. Pay so much for a toyota badge.
All your money buying this sohai dugong will fund their F1 participation..congratulations
eh.. i know where this pictures is taken.. is it in alam damai ? at the banglo lot hill??
[quote comment="236418"]Although the new city is heavier than the current vios, city has more horses. Power to Weight ratio for both cars are quite similar, I don't see how the vios has upperhand.
To those who said vios interior quality is very good, there must be something wrong. I've been in the S and J spec, and to my surprise, the plastics are NO better than Gen2/Persona!
Only fanboys will say vios is a good car. Pay so much for a toyota badge.[/quote]
So true about the plastics.
[quote comment="236338"]To think that 2,444 ppl bought this sohai car in March…… *facepalm*
Anytime, I'd take the Gen.2 CPS. That, is a proper car I can have fun on the road n on the track.
I remember I came across a time lap of Myvi stock vs Myvi race spec vs Savvy stock. Savvy pwned them all. That just speaks abt how sporty the real McCoy is, even in stock form.
N yet, there'd always be ppl who'd buy this rubbish.[/quote]
Agree with you..i used to compare Gen2 and Civic 1.8 handling at 2 sharp hairpin en route to my workplace. The Gen2 can sustain 80km/h but the Civic only 60km/h. (the limit speed for both hairpin is 50km/h). I tried to push more but unfortunately the Civic couldn't and just near to turn turtled. I just imagine that if i was in the track, Gen2 should get better lap time than Civic. The Lotus handling really works in P1 cars and offers more safety on high speed cornering.
I think Ferrari should consult with Lotus for F60 cornering grip woes. Just like the RBR Renault focus on the suspension setup rather than develope double deck diffuser. RBR Renault is the only top pace setter in 09 F1 without the said diffuser. Just my 2 cents.
looks can be deceiving.
luckily, i'm not deceived :D
Toyota Fan Si said,
May 6, 2009 @ 5:20 pm · Reply with quote
Sohai Car. Rubbish
FanSi, u r got damn right!
for the ppl spand more $ to buy so called TRD, he is more SOHAI !!!
Another T marketing strategy. Dugong slap on TRD bodykits are juz hidious. Aftermarket bodykits look much better than this.
Sports interior + suspension goes with 107hp engine for a sporty drive? They got to be kidding. Its feels like 1 but it doesn't perform like 1. Adding sporty features into the interior already sacrifice its ride comfort + the already crappy stock interior, they juz make it more worst.
Yet there are people who wil stil go for this crap bcuz its T brand ma…!
To all jealous guys:
You can make noise out there complaining here and there, but I like this statement
"I know most women like this but it feels odd, like you’re sitting on a stool rather than nicely cosseted in a chair."
I believe city gurls are having much higher buying powers than guys, they are big fans to Toyota too.
Toyota is indeed looking for profit, if not she would be a charitable organization. Do not be NAIVE. Just earn more money.
By the way, i owned VIOS, CIVIC, and BMW.
I like VIOS though.
yah. i am a guy. by the way.
Bros, earn more money…:P
i think those TRD stickers are from some pasar malam…it's got no place in a car like this
[quote comment="236418"]Although the new city is heavier than the current vios, city has more horses. Power to Weight ratio for both cars are quite similar, I don't see how the vios has upperhand.
To those who said vios interior quality is very good, there must be something wrong. I've been in the S and J spec, and to my surprise, the plastics are NO better than Gen2/Persona!
Only fanboys will say vios is a good car. Pay so much for a toyota badge.[/quote]
Maybe not all chosed Vios due to built material and fit and finish. Comfort and fuel efficient is something inevitable in Vios compare with Gen2/Persona which full of blind spot and poor driving position. The only plus point for Gen2/Persona is it's handling.
The bodykit make Dugong more sportier and i believe still it can be head turner for the normal saloon.
Look my VIOS with modified rear bumper reflector with LED Light………. Very Special…..
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/3240141
might as well just slap on a sticker with 1000bhp written on it, and everyone will believe it is a 1000bhp car. Print a few and stick it everywhere on the car body, hey you get extra few thousand bhp. All these cosmetic TRD fittings are just pure rubbish.
I am very surprised the reviewer totally missed the mark on the problems with the Vios line-up. To deem that the engine noise intrusion into the cabin is acceptable is ridiculous. Of course it's relative but to what? To Potong? Worse, it is also mentioned that this car has adequate storage space. Are you for real? It has the worse storage space of any car i've been in! Yes the looks are subjective, the suspension is good, the pickup is good but are we all just to sing praises and not critique where justified? Instead of asking for 10hp more, we should be asking for more value for our money that's practical, reasonable and objective such as better refinement.
[quote [quote comment="236447"]Look my VIOS with modified rear bumper reflector with LED Light………. Very Special…..
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/3240141[/quote]
I like it….
Should ask TRD add this too……
Additionally, the Fuel Consumption for the Vios is horrendous! A full tank can hardly get you 350km in the city. When asked to the SC, they said the new vios is "like that wan!".
Everybody here hates Vios, GOOD! Let us buy Proton like Gen-2, Savvy and Exora. Some say that Gen-2 is better than Civic! I’m amazed. I guess those who bought Civic will surely feel dumb and stupid, and very soon they will be a laughing stock by the automotive experts here at Paultan.org. More and more people don’t fancy Toyota, Honda and Nissan anymore. Everybody here fancy the good handling car by Lotus in Proton. Somebody here also say that interior of Vios is on par with Gen-2. Have all the people out there who still drive Toyota, Honda and Nissan are blind? Or maybe they are really stupid? Or maybe the ‘experts’ here are not who they are? Anyway I feels like laughing and farting.
Cheers
My VIOS with modified rear bumper reflector with LED Light………. Very Special…..
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/3240141
TRD should add this……
[quote comment="236338"]To think that 2,444 ppl bought this sohai car in March…… *facepalm*
Anytime, I'd take the Gen.2 CPS. That, is a proper car I can have fun on the road n on the track.
I remember I came across a time lap of Myvi stock vs Myvi race spec vs Savvy stock. Savvy pwned them all. That just speaks abt how sporty the real McCoy is, even in stock form.
N yet, there'd always be ppl who'd buy this rubbish.[/quote]
toyota should get rid of this crap piece of junk and stop coming out with new TRD gimmicks to sell cars. i and most ppl won't be conned by you for sure.
Come to think of it….2000 over sohais in march ….hahahah
(UMW: hahahahahahhahahahahahahahahhaahahahahhaahahhaa old junk oso got sohai buy! like that we save $$ no need to have new model lor! )
to me they are like the 200 victims of scratch and win contest in march. everyone knows about the conjob but still got ignorant clowns getting conned.
UMW is laughing to the bank again and again.
the plus point for persona and gen2 is more on boot space, space itself, pricing, power and obviously handling. Gen2 CPS for example have more upper sporty feeling with the goodies inside. The only good thing about dugong is fuel efficiency and the "T" badge. Basicly Saga is better woth for money compared to this dugong.
If you are using it for daily purpose, duel airbag is most important than rather having momo racing steering.
Crap why i am comparing proton gen2 cps with this basic entry level car that coming from the bestest company car in the world which care more about profit than making decent car.
dugong in a race suit…still a dugung wannabe ricer car.
this TRD vios is for
1) Auntie who wants to drive from market to home, faster by 0.5 seconds
2) Unker who wants to reach tuition centre (to fecth kids) from home faster by 0.7 seconds
3) Sohai that got too much money and no brain when comes to knowledge of cars.
4) Any combination if the above.
uhuhuhuhuhuhu..
Fugly dugongs..
spending almost 90k ringgit,
just just to get a car 1.5, which actually qualify an economical taxi.
mmmm.
[quote comment="236475"]spending almost 90k ringgit,
just just to get a car 1.5, which actually qualify an economical taxi.
mmmm.[/quote]
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OK WHAT..
In Indonesia, Vios become TAXI..
In Malaysia, Saga become TAXI aso..
So, Vios 1.5 same par with New Saga 1.6 in terms of TAXI… haha.. but most of T lover just buy because "T" brand.. it make sense u know… but honestly i dont like the Interior for this TRD…!!!
THis is So called "Toyota Research Development"? please do better next time.. ~sigh~
[quote comment="236338"]To think that 2,444 ppl bought this sohai car in March…… *facepalm*
Anytime, I'd take the Gen.2 CPS. That, is a proper car I can have fun on the road n on the track.
I remember I came across a time lap of Myvi stock vs Myvi race spec vs Savvy stock. Savvy pwned them all. That just speaks abt how sporty the real McCoy is, even in stock form.
N yet, there'd always be ppl who'd buy this rubbish.[/quote]
C'mon lah bro… people buy vios because of their own personal preferences. You bought Gen.2 because your budget is below 60k… haha!
ILL TAKE GEN 2 OR NEO WITH CPS TO BEAT THIS…..AND IT LOOKS AND FEEL AND DRIVES BETTER ….STOCK.
have to agree with the writer… the previous look is much more agressive… but i think we cant call any one who buys this cars sohai lar… looks is very subjective.. some may like it.. some may not.. wished they would atleast give an upgrade to increase a bit more power…
people that buy T and H badge are not stupid but it reflect the mentality of malaysian people. Heard follower, nihon the best, brand name and most of all the wealty status. Some people are afraid to get caught driving a proton as it show lack of money.
new civic are more on comfort and a bit of sport. Handling wise, cheaper gen2 cps or satria neo cps pawn it especially on winding road. go for a test drive in both car first and then you will understand.For those who are still dreaming the quality of interior plastic in dugong is better than the plastic in gen2 cps or persona, wake up. hallucinating T and H is the best…not blind.
Hmmm… Good for Toyota Vios Lover. Hope to see more upgrades in the short future. I will consider Toyota Vios super-charger 1.5cc DOHC VVT-I manual. Performance is what I seek not the branded seats.
Very controversial model eh. :)
vios is in a bad shape now…..i was wondering if company H will give a manual version of their hi revving V powered city……and have a Honda City MUGEN spec VS a TOY-OTAK vios TRDspec…..both manual and auto…have a SHOWDOWN……..but i guess it just wont happen…….toyota will KIASU…..
come on la toyota….. stop sellling the spec j,e,s, and watever special edition , trd or watever will be coming and AT LEAST give a 5spd auto n better engive wit 119hp…. even our p1 can offer better deals now and a cps( job well done p1, good for u). tats the way to go la…
show a bit of heart la…….those AE(82,91,100,110) corollas were big hits………..vios….big hit in CONSUMERs wallet……i never complain with my corolla gt. vios….. look at the comments above…… listen to customers….not ur greedy heart. 1 day or even today u will loose out…….mark my words….coz i will be going for a city or p1 anytime soon…..
Malaysian market: Look fast can sell.
[quote comment="236503"]vios is in a bad shape now…..i was wondering if company H will give a manual version of their hi revving V powered city……and have a Honda City MUGEN spec VS a TOY-OTAK vios TRDspec…..both manual and auto…have a SHOWDOWN……..but i guess it just wont happen…….toyota will KIASU…..
come on la toyota….. stop sellling the spec j,e,s, and watever special edition , trd or watever will be coming and AT LEAST give a 5spd auto n better engive wit 119hp…. even our p1 can offer better deals now and a cps( job well done p1, good for u). tats the way to go la…
show a bit of heart la…….those AE(82,91,100,110) corollas were big hits………..vios….big hit in CONSUMERs wallet……i never complain with my corolla gt. vios….. look at the comments above…… listen to customers….not ur greedy heart. 1 day or even today u will loose out…….mark my words….coz i will be going for a city or p1 anytime soon…..[/quote]
Both T and H is sucking blood. T through high margin product profit through part sharing and H through super low cost hiring with full loaded multi tasking. With local made H is suspiciously laden with dangerous stuff fix by depressed and under duress workers. So think twice.
GEN2,PSaga 5 years later …. VS Toyota Vios 5 years Later.. ????
Its still after all a CHEAP CAR FOR ASEAN MARKET and it does looks CHEAP. Jeremy Clarkson definetly bomb tis car just like kelisa. It also uses torsion beam…thin one
If you always frequent oversea (even ASEAN) this Vios is merely a very basic car that mean for BASIC target group. THe reliability associate with the Toyota marque plays an important role for customer decision making.
RESULT: as majority of customer more than willing to pay handsomely for these cars THEN the manufacturer more than happy to accept this fact and keen to supply a basic car with the executive C-segment price. Our Vios even higher than some C-segment Altis or Civic in Thailand.
VERDICT: UMWT should TRDized basic 1.6E Altis and sell for RM95k or below instead of RM102k for current model. Perhaps, paultan's car experts will little more acceptable, huh?
[quote comment="236452"]Everybody here hates Vios, GOOD! Let us buy Proton like Gen-2, Savvy and Exora. Some say that Gen-2 is better than Civic! I’m amazed. I guess those who bought Civic will surely feel dumb and stupid, and very soon they will be a laughing stock by the automotive experts here at Paultan.org. More and more people don’t fancy Toyota, Honda and Nissan anymore. Everybody here fancy the good handling car by Lotus in Proton. Somebody here also say that interior of Vios is on par with Gen-2. Have all the people out there who still drive Toyota, Honda and Nissan are blind? Or maybe they are really stupid? Or maybe the ‘experts’ here are not who they are? Anyway I feels like laughing and farting.
Cheers[/quote]
yeah… good… yes… bingo… please keep cursing this thai made sohai dugong on bar with gen2 better handling… as cheap as taxi saga… even savvy more coriaceous… exora larger… until no value of money on 2nd prices… no stock buying… then raya promosi soon will selling below 60k with $$ rebate. wow… i am waitiiiiing… please keep cursing… please… p1 better… please… sohai… please…
[quote comment="236475"]spending almost 90k ringgit,
just just to get a car 1.5, which actually qualify an economical taxi.
mmmm.[/quote]
yes.. at indon vios is only taxi…. agreed with low quality interior.
[quote comment="236510"]Malaysian market: T badge can sell.[/quote]
Fix'd
[quote comment="236484"]C'mon lah bro… people buy vios because of their own personal preferences. You bought Gen.2 because your budget is below 60k… haha![/quote]
Oh… talk abt budget la now, eh?
True, budget for car below RM60k, so that the extra saved can be used to mod Gen2 CPS into a monster. Somebody in Exora post suggested bosch iridium spark plugs, voltage stabiliser n K&N air filter, itu baru RM800. There's far more… cross-drill brakes? Brembo calipers? Extractor? Bak datang la!!
Then can fight: Gen.2 "Lotus DNA" CPS modded vs Vios "sohai dugong" TRD stock, both total cost abt RM80k++ (I suspect RM90k++ more likely). Nak tak?
[quote comment="236464"][quote comment="236338"]To think that 2,444 ppl bought this sohai car in March…… *facepalm*
Anytime, I'd take the Gen.2 CPS. That, is a proper car I can have fun on the road n on the track.
I remember I came across a time lap of Myvi stock vs Myvi race spec vs Savvy stock. Savvy pwned them all. That just speaks abt how sporty the real McCoy is, even in stock form.
N yet, there'd always be ppl who'd buy this rubbish.[/quote]
toyota should get rid of this crap piece of junk and stop coming out with new TRD gimmicks to sell cars. i and most ppl won't be conned by you for sure.
Come to think of it….2000 over sohais in march ….hahahah
(UMW: hahahahahahhahahahahahahahahhaahahahahhaahahhaa old junk oso got sohai buy! like that we save $$ no need to have new model lor! )
to me they are like the 200 victims of scratch and win contest in march. everyone knows about the conjob but still got ignorant clowns getting conned.
UMW is laughing to the bank again and again.[/quote]
This car is not junk, it's the proton cars that are "junk" ;)
This car Toyota mar… just change seat, give fancy over-inflated paint job then say "now u can have fuel efficiency, good 2nd hand value, absolutely bullet-proof tech with sportyness". Harhar… harharhar… HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!
One thing I've noticed is that the reviewer finds the Toyota Engine better than Honda's engine. Compared on paper, it is clear that Honda is the winner. But driving it gives you a clearer experience.
People who only reads specifications don't really get it. When it comes to the power that you feel, it is the torque at the range of RPM that you use. Clearly Toyota opted a wider usable range of Torque than Honda. Traditionally, Honda engine lacks torque and thats why they don't work well in real life. They can only look good on paper.
toyota sells this bastard to con all the sohai at asean.
Far away from what our local Proton did on Gen2 CPS or Neo CPS or Neo R3.what TRD hv done to this vios?is it just to replace air filter and suspension setup only?or maybe FIA bucket seat can make vios faster?….
this is my honest opinion on vios and city.
a month ago, i just bought a vios.
before I made the decision, i have tested nissan sentra and honda city.
the highest interest for me on that time is vios and city.
from the design, city has not really a good overall design.
city has good view from back where it can be seen as BMW and the front can be an unic view. but if you see in each angel, city has a weird design and looking. vios has a simple and almost luxury design at the back. from the front, vios can be seen again as a simple and update looking.
overall, vios is more good to stare in each angle of view.
second, vios has rebet on its price. i got rebet about rm3K and rm600 for 4mil Vcool tinted and i have to wait only 2 weeks to get the car. instead of city, the honda doesn't offer any rebet or promotion gitf. for the S spec, i have to wait for 3 month to own the car.
so, as a normal buyer or a consumer, I must decide which car offer the best price and service.
third, when I was driving city, i can't feel a new driving style compared to vios.
the city dashboard design just a simple such as a big amber analog gauge in front of the driver and the centered control for air cond and radio. the aircond button so big such as a myvi design. it looks not too matured and luxury. Also, the gear has straight line. the sequential gear behind the steering is very messy when used it and I think it will not practically used daily. why? because it so hard to control and finally you will go back to the auto gear.
when i test drived vios, i can feel difference. the centered meter gauge with optitron (Vios S), gated shift gear, knob button for aircond, good looking integrated radio and good suspension.
engine revs in vios is more better than city.
finally, i choose vios.
so, who is the sucking blood car seller here? honda or toyota?
vvti vs vtec, both are 1.5 with different torque and hp, city with sohc and vios with dohc, 3 times free fully services (labour and parts) for honda and free labour charge for the first service for vios, with dugong looking vs kontot looking for city, each of us has different views and interest.
most important, if you not buying one of the car (city or vios) and you just bashing and condemn either one, better stop writing a comment because you look like a stupidos kid.
that my opinion. get the experience first before give a comment.
OMG.. what happen to Vios… ? why they come with this stupid Interior Design? They hire designer from Produa? because the colour scheme as same as Viva… ooo…. i would like to say NO! for this vios… Vios TRD became ViRUS already to Toyota Fanz.. can consider new Honda City.. huh…
[quote comment="236540"]One thing I've noticed is that the reviewer finds the Toyota Engine better than Honda's engine. Compared on paper, it is clear that Honda is the winner. But driving it gives you a clearer experience.
People who only reads specifications don't really get it. When it comes to the power that you feel, it is the torque at the range of RPM that you use. Clearly Toyota opted a wider usable range of Torque than Honda. Traditionally, Honda engine lacks torque and thats why they don't work well in real life. They can only look good on paper.[/quote]
light cars always feels like that. have you driven a kelisa before? it gives you a false sense of urgency that you are picking up speed very fast but in actual fact you are not. compared to driving a mercedes S320. i'm sure the kelisa feels faster than the S320 but on clock and paper it says otherwise…some more by a big margin.
Don't rely on feelings but rather real specs. toyota already brainwashed ppl by their motto ( get the feeling ) or some shit like that. feelings are for ladies…not for car enthusiasts.
dugong on steroid
I HATE THE CENTER CONSOLE. AND OH YEAH, THE REAR LOOKS LACK OF IDEAS.
My final comment on 2nd gen Vios (not the 1st gen Vios) no matter what variant it is, I hate it….
I hate the rounded front with beady front lamp,
I hate the centre ergonometer (which racing car have centre ergonometer?),
I hate the 'reliability' tag asssociated with it (other T models maybe, but not Vios) and finally,
I hate looking at people driving 2nd gen Vios (even if it is the most basic mod) thinking they look cool in it (because they don't).
I hope T will get rid of the current Vios and start planning on the replacement model soon.
Thank you.
its amazing to see all these comments.
this trd version is not a power version, take a look at nissan's impul selection, any power ups? no.
if they put in a supercharger or turbo charged etc price wil definately go up.reengineering and engine factory engine buildup is not cheap. furthermore consumer complains that price mark up is too much.
another thing, toyota and honda designs are going forward and futuristic.
in 5-10 years time those whom think its ugly by then can appreciate this design.
Should it get a better engine upgrade instead of tons of "Aerokit"??
The Vios J TRD seems can kicks the corner hard but can't keep up with the pace. Or the manufacturer plans to sell the engine upgrade separately?
TRD just changed their name with the release of these vios..
Third Rate Dugong
[quote comment="236535"][quote comment="236484"]C'mon lah bro… people buy vios because of their own personal preferences. You bought Gen.2 because your budget is below 60k… haha![/quote]
Oh… talk abt budget la now, eh?
True, budget for car below RM60k, so that the extra saved can be used to mod Gen2 CPS into a monster. Somebody in Exora post suggested bosch iridium spark plugs, voltage stabiliser n K&N air filter, itu baru RM800. There's far more… cross-drill brakes? Brembo calipers? Extractor? Bak datang la!!
Then can fight: Gen.2 "Lotus DNA" CPS modded vs Vios "sohai dugong" TRD stock, both total cost abt RM80k++ (I suspect RM90k++ more likely). Nak tak?[/quote]
no fair 90k-10% tax=80k gen2 fight 90k-30% tax=70k vios, a pieces of budget need pay to tax.
[quote comment="236526"]GEN2,PSaga 5 years later …. VS Toyota Vios 5 years Later.. ????[/quote]
hmm… ???… err… ahaa… i think i know the answer, how about gen2 & saga 5 years later VS vios today?
[quote comment="236604"][quote comment="236526"]GEN2,PSaga 5 years later …. VS Toyota Vios 5 years Later.. ????[/quote]
hmm… ???… err… ahaa… i think i know the answer, how about gen2 & saga 5 years later VS vios today?[/quote]
doesnt mean a thing. 5 years from now, if nothing else changes, the result will still be the same.. but thats not the point.
the majority of toyota customers i suspect, probably wouldnt want the extra power anyways.. this is for the guys who buy a car new, and btw, like some sportiness, and hey.. toyota now offers some 'mild' style and upgrade parts.. so they lump it all in, buy the car, and thats it. they are not the type that will take the effort to research, hunt down parts, and workshops and get their car modded.. they just want their car looking sporty, and drive it everyday. and its not just toyota customers, but there are customers like this for all makes of cars.
for those who want more power, supercharger or turbo..etc. etc. will find their own way to mod their car, and it will definitely be cheaper also compared to a factory mod. and these people are only a minority of the customer base.
and btw, proton beat toyota in indonesia and thailand in last years afos races for their class…
vios has a simple and almost luxury design at the back. from the front, vios can be seen again as a simple and update looking.
overall, vios is more good to stare in each angle of view.
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Aiyoohhh…toyota fanboy who fancied his sohai dugong soooo much…
[quote comment="236521"][quote comment="236503"]vios is in a bad shape now…..i was wondering if company H will give a manual version of their hi revving V powered city……and have a Honda City MUGEN spec VS a TOY-OTAK vios TRDspec…..both manual and auto…have a SHOWDOWN……..but i guess it just wont happen…….toyota will KIASU…..
come on la toyota….. stop sellling the spec j,e,s, and watever special edition , trd or watever will be coming and AT LEAST give a 5spd auto n better engive wit 119hp…. even our p1 can offer better deals now and a cps( job well done p1, good for u). tats the way to go la…
show a bit of heart la…….those AE(82,91,100,110) corollas were big hits………..vios….big hit in CONSUMERs wallet……i never complain with my corolla gt. vios….. look at the comments above…… listen to customers….not ur greedy heart. 1 day or even today u will loose out…….mark my words….coz i will be going for a city or p1 anytime soon…..[/quote]
Both T and H is sucking blood. T through high margin product profit through part sharing and H through super low cost hiring with full loaded multi tasking. With local made H is suspiciously laden with dangerous stuff fix by depressed and under duress workers. So think twice.[/quote]
Bro, you're damn right…H assembly quality from their melaka plant is damn awful..on par with potong as many ex-potong employees work distressfully and overworked in H. I acquaintances working with both local H and T company, where T people are strugling to do anything to sell their product to maintain profitability while H is pushing hard on their people to meet market demand with super multi-tasking, working under presure and depress. No wonder H is very popular with employee turnover with making more profit at the same time. Conclusion…one with Sohai Product..the other one with Sohai Management!
[quote comment="236602"][quote comment="236535"][quote comment="236484"]C'mon lah bro… people buy vios because of their own personal preferences. You bought Gen.2 because your budget is below 60k… haha![/quote]
Oh… talk abt budget la now, eh?
True, budget for car below RM60k, so that the extra saved can be used to mod Gen2 CPS into a monster. Somebody in Exora post suggested bosch iridium spark plugs, voltage stabiliser n K&N air filter, itu baru RM800. There's far more… cross-drill brakes? Brembo calipers? Extractor? Bak datang la!!
Then can fight: Gen.2 "Lotus DNA" CPS modded vs Vios "sohai dugong" TRD stock, both total cost abt RM80k++ (I suspect RM90k++ more likely). Nak tak?[/quote]
no fair 90k-10% tax=80k gen2 fight 90k-30% tax=70k vios, a pieces of budget need pay to tax.[/quote]
I said Gen.2 CPS itself costs below RM60k (RM57k+ to be more precise), n to make it a fair budget fight with this most likely RM90k++ dugong TRD, it will have extra RM30k++ worth of mods.
Whatever… with or without mod, Gen2 CPS will tapau this sohai like a stroll in the park.
[quote comment="236642"]vios has a simple and almost luxury design at the back. from the front, vios can be seen again as a simple and update looking.
overall, vios is more good to stare in each angle of view.
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Aiyoohhh…toyota fanboy who fancied his sohai dugong soooo much…[/quote]
Simple and almost luxury design, hmm…… I've never heard that kinda praise towards Waja, the car that the rear part of the sohai dugong copied.
[quote comment="236560"][quote comment="236540"]One thing I've noticed is that the reviewer finds the Toyota Engine better than Honda's engine. Compared on paper, it is clear that Honda is the winner. But driving it gives you a clearer experience.
People who only reads specifications don't really get it. When it comes to the power that you feel, it is the torque at the range of RPM that you use. Clearly Toyota opted a wider usable range of Torque than Honda. Traditionally, Honda engine lacks torque and thats why they don't work well in real life. They can only look good on paper.[/quote]
light cars always feels like that. have you driven a kelisa before? it gives you a false sense of urgency that you are picking up speed very fast but in actual fact you are not. compared to driving a mercedes S320. i'm sure the kelisa feels faster than the S320 but on clock and paper it says otherwise…some more by a big margin.
Don't rely on feelings but rather real specs. toyota already brainwashed ppl by their motto ( get the feeling ) or some shit like that. feelings are for ladies…not for car enthusiasts.[/quote]
You don't get it.. If you want performance, you'll never look at a tiny 1.5L car. You'll go for something like 2.5L or more. What I'm comparing is 1.5L vs another 1.5L and how you get the best out of a tiny engine while still have good fuel economy.
i like u guys writting hundreds of comments……this shows we are always cheated by these companies…….blood suckers HnT……i wonder if umwt n honda malaysia is reading this………well, they gotta……..this is wat we call CUSTOMER FEEDBACK……….
too bad the APs imported cars super expensive…..if not, we can buy better(spec) imports from japanese used car markets. look at the HILUX….come on la….put a T badge and sell like hot cakes(KaNaSai). the new MILENIUM already pass 9 years….STILL don have an INTERCOOLER!!!!!!……seriusly T guys….. GET A LIFE!!!!
[quote comment="236656"][quote comment="236560"][quote comment="236540"]One thing I've noticed is that the reviewer finds the Toyota Engine better than Honda's engine. Compared on paper, it is clear that Honda is the winner. But driving it gives you a clearer experience.
People who only reads specifications don't really get it. When it comes to the power that you feel, it is the torque at the range of RPM that you use. Clearly Toyota opted a wider usable range of Torque than Honda. Traditionally, Honda engine lacks torque and thats why they don't work well in real life. They can only look good on paper.[/quote]
light cars always feels like that. have you driven a kelisa before? it gives you a false sense of urgency that you are picking up speed very fast but in actual fact you are not. compared to driving a mercedes S320. i'm sure the kelisa feels faster than the S320 but on clock and paper it says otherwise…some more by a big margin.
Don't rely on feelings but rather real specs. toyota already brainwashed ppl by their motto ( get the feeling ) or some shit like that. feelings are for ladies…not for car enthusiasts.[/quote]
You don't get it.. If you want performance, you'll never look at a tiny 1.5L car. You'll go for something like 2.5L or more. What I'm comparing is 1.5L vs another 1.5L and how you get the best out of a tiny engine while still have good fuel economy.[/quote]
correct….thats what i am trying to point out to you…the city weighs about 100kg more the the lightweight dugong.
look at the 0-100kmh, 60-100kmh etc. timing of both cars and also the torque curve b4 saying that you feel which car has more torque.
[quote comment="236642"]vios has a simple and almost luxury design at the back. from the front, vios can be seen again as a simple and update looking.
overall, vios is more good to stare in each angle of view.
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Are you from cambodia or bhutan? heard the vios dugong is a luxury car there. but those are 4th world countries…
over here in malaysia, cars like merc, bimmer, audi etc. are considered luxurious. not dugongs or sagas.
i don't like the dugong too but i think i can see why there are so many buyers… my assumption is this:
1) the buyers are probably older folk. late 30's and above.
2) they are not interested in aggressive driving or even driving dynamics.
3) they just want a car to get from a to b but will not buy a local brand – cos they have the money because they are already working many years.
4) they grew up with toyota.
5) their idea of toyota is 'reliable'.
6) "since there are so many buyers of this car, it can't be wrong".
7) they will buy anything with a 'T' badge.
8) styling is nice to have but not important – reliability is (refer to point no. 5)
good car..
u all fxxking so hai, know a bit, act like expert!! how much u pay, what u get lah.. this car value for $….
Seronok baca all the comments.
Kalau UMW/Toyota's and Honda's Malaysia MD dare to baca this blog, I think they will already paralyzed on a wheel chair due to a major stroke.
Tapi aku respect to Proton's MD Dato' Syed jugak because he is daring enough to be here and most likely read all the comments and also dare to post his comments in this blog. (Bodek sikit mana la tau lepas balik dari Jepun nanti boleh pulak kerja dgn Proton hehehe.)
Satu saja nak mintak janganlah kutuk kaw2 sangat kat T and H, kesian kat owner2 dia. Dia orang semua tu bayar, bukannya ambil free.
Walaupun most of the money goes back to Japan at least they also contribute 30% of the amount to our beloved country. (Another issue is how our BN government spent those taxes, if don't like than next time please vote PR.. hehehe kempen politik sikit, jangan marah)
IMHO if we prefer a performance and with good handling car, and also have enough money to mod here and there better buy Proton cars like Gen2 CPS and Satria neo CPS.
[quote comment="236604"][quote comment="236526"]GEN2,PSaga 5 years later …. VS Toyota Vios 5 years Later.. ????[/quote]
hmm… ???… err… ahaa… i think i know the answer, how about gen2 & saga 5 years later VS vios today?[/quote]
no need la.. my 5 years old Gen2 1.6 A can smoke 1.8 vtec civic what… done it at MRR2 ^.^… stupid civic cucuk2 me… at last can't even get close lol…
U no need a Neo CPS to outrun this TRD vios.
hahaha.. im thinking something funny..
Really! You really no need Neo CPS or Gen CPS.
Just give our Proton Saga Taxi .
Surely with really easy to outrun this 'TRD' Vios!
hahaha.. believe me… ! :D
[quote comment="236795"]U no need a Neo CPS to outrun this TRD vios.
hahaha.. im thinking something funny..
Really! You really no need Neo CPS or Gen CPS.
Just give our Proton Saga Taxi .
Surely with really easy to outrun this 'TRD' Vios!
hahaha.. believe me… ! :D[/quote]
Yes, it's believable, for sure it will do…
[quote comment="236803"][quote comment="236795"]U no need a Neo CPS to outrun this TRD vios.
hahaha.. im thinking something funny..
Really! You really no need Neo CPS or Gen CPS.
Just give our Proton Saga Taxi .
Surely with really easy to outrun this 'TRD' Vios!
hahaha.. believe me… ! :D[/quote]
Yes, it's believable, for sure it will do…[/quote]
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ya true.. no need micheal schumacher or Mr.Liar Lewis Hamilton to smoke the TRD Vios..haha.. just ask Taxi driver to smoke them. "Uncle, cepatla sikit, potong itu Vios, saya dah lewat ada dating dgn amoi" ahaha..
i looks silly if i drive this…….gen2 cps & neo cps win
u guys really like proton car meh ?? T and H always value for money
more of a showpiece then anything else..even the humble sentra can bungkus this toothless tiger for lunch.
I think those who love gen2 and persona must not have had a waja from year 01, 02..perdana from year 00,01, wira from 02-07, wira SE from 04..all good cars right..consumable gbox's, leaky head gaskets..all normal la right…during the glory days when proton power windows failed, gbox kong, labour for major service is RM164.80, must change plug every 10k, all wajachestra and gen2chestra is 'normal'…vios is not a great car..its a good basic car tht might not fall apart as quick as a proton..whether or not the plastics are the same as the saga…then again to know plastics..i would assume mostly everyone here are materials engineers or something of tht sort..i am not..so i am not gonna comment…and i think toyota,honda is not bodo like proton, the next vios will be good…until then the city is a better car if ure willing to wait 3 months..
with follower comments, now i know why p1 no interesting to develop an auntie uncle car because people only want the fastest, but why frogy myvi still on the top selling even i hate this yucky frogy.
aiyoo y`all this is economic car lar, harge mhal coz cukai tggi lol,,,,
law xdak cukai lingkup da proton ….,
gen2 smoked civic?? myb that civic driver baru dapt license P,, haha
125hp vs 140hp Vtec, aiyoo makan asap lar u pnye gen2,
gen2 jd genlast..
law lar ad civic vtec manual, terbarai enjin gen2 nk kejar,
bro test with same level lar .. ,,
sohai!! whtever u mod, still look chubby like dugong n that
cute facelift, that sohai only 4 city drive 4 fuel efficiency not racing
law mod altis as sport kompem sporty habis, still lack of power,,
konklusinyer this all `T~` model not 4 sport,
honda yes with VTEC engine that powerful engine competetable with turbo engine,, TQ
those imported car not cekik darh if the
malaysian not top ten wins
the nominee most cekik darah cukai..
so think bout it, all of it for our proton car.,,
well y`all vios only 4 efficiency not 4 power,,
is that right y`all??
all material light 4 the car lighter,so
banyaklar jiwat duit minyak
so skrg minyak murh cket, bek y`all bli kete power
wat lenjan sbom mnyak naek hrge.. hahahahha
centre dashboard lol awkward like shit. Such family friendly design, want to make sporty. See behind no ommph, see in front also no ommph.
aku pun xphm apsal yang korang duk compare with T & H dr segi HP n torque.ni aku nk tanya ckit, korang klu bwk kete asyik nk bwk laju je k?think about more comfort while driving n the best thing is get a car with FC n klu servis maintainance murah.lastly, think for ur love one…
dude….tgk arr title sket
TRD is about performance…we dont talk bout uncleish comfort and FC crap. Its all about performance. And yes, fast spirited driving.
But obviously not this girlish silly lookin dugong TRD
just go to sepang to get the real fast spirit driving…
[quote comment="236956"]aku pun xphm apsal yang korang duk compare with T & H dr segi HP n torque.ni aku nk tanya ckit, korang klu bwk kete asyik nk bwk laju je k?think about more comfort while driving n the best thing is get a car with FC n klu servis maintainance murah.lastly, think for ur love one…[/quote]
dude,
this is TRD vios dugong la….and you are talking about good FC? buy a kancil and install NGV tank la.
vios maintenance memang mahal gila ( UMW servis betul-betul cekik and hisap darah) until my brother cannot tahan use back his spare satria. Until the warranty is over then servis outside is cheap la. But he don't complain much, cos was his own fault he listen to ppl say toyota dugong cheap maintenance last time.
protonSCfan,
you think vios service is cheap? don't dream ok. you service at kedai bengkel ah beng is cheap la. never at UMW. even change tyre oso cost 30% more than market price. you telling me UMW sell the michelin XM1 tyres are better than the ones outside? check the tyre manufacture date outside shops can get newer batch for cheaper price somemore.
the thing is this rubbish dugong, UMW suck you kauu kau, for a car that is equivalent to saga, they make like 20k profit, and after that for the next few yrs of service….slowly sucking you again and again. each service averaging around RM 600-900.in total. madness!!!
[quote comment="236992"] each service averaging around RM 600-900.in total. madness!!![/quote]
Sound like bluffing by king. Grow up and get a car, king.
[quote comment="236992"]
this is TRD vios dugong la….and you are talking about good FC? buy a kancil and install NGV tank la.[/quote]
motorbike better… sounds like this…
[quote comment="237005"][quote comment="236992"] each service averaging around RM 600-900.in total. madness!!![/quote]
Sound like bluffing by king. Grow up and get a car, king.[/quote]
why should i bluff? i can get invoice to prove it…but i get you that what you can you give me? a jug of beer? haha. next you will say i photoshop the invoice. never can please a toyota fanboy. wasting my time. and i don't need to.
don't talk like a immature kid ok. i am already having my 5th car now. only my fiat punto cost as much as that servicing. ppl already know that regardless whether i post here or not. only ignorant fools listen to pasar malam talk by aunties and think they are very smart.
too bad toyota fanboys never mature…
at least put in a trd exhaust system is better than a… get this… trd radiator cap!!
I second king…..service really cekik darah. we also have to use overprice toyota cap ayam engine oil (dunno what grade…ntah2 mineral je) each time. T badge le katakan….mahal le skit.
[quote comment="237058"][quote comment="237005"][quote comment="236992"] each service averaging around RM 600-900.in total. madness!!![/quote]
Sound like bluffing by king. Grow up and get a car, king.[/quote]
why should i bluff? i can get invoice to prove it…but i get you that what you can you give me? a jug of beer? haha. next you will say i photoshop the invoice. never can please a toyota fanboy. wasting my time. and i don't need to.
don't talk like a immature kid ok. i am already having my 5th car now. only my fiat punto cost as much as that servicing. ppl already know that regardless whether i post here or not. only ignorant fools listen to pasar malam talk by aunties and think they are very smart.
too bad toyota fanboys never mature…[/quote]
Again, king, please grow up and get a car, I meant a real car where you can drive. Until then, stop the nonsense.
[quote comment="237192"][quote comment="237058"][quote comment="237005"][quote comment="236992"] each service averaging around RM 600-900.in total. madness!!![/quote]
Sound like bluffing by king. Grow up and get a car, king.[/quote]
why should i bluff? i can get invoice to prove it…but i get you that what you can you give me? a jug of beer? haha. next you will say i photoshop the invoice. never can please a toyota fanboy. wasting my time. and i don't need to
don't talk like a immature kid ok. i am already having my 5th car now. only my fiat punto cost as much as that servicing. ppl already know that regardless whether i post here or not. only ignorant fools listen to pasar malam talk by aunties and think they are very smart.
too bad toyota fanboys never mature…[/quote]
Again, king, please grow up and get a car, I meant a real car where you can drive. Until then, stop the nonsense.[/quote]
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why should i stop? are you the owner of this blog? go start your own blog then you can tell ppl to stop.
so don't act like a owner when you are nobody but a toyota salesman if i'm not mistaken. you got a problem then get lost.
i got a right to let ppl know bout REAL facts…
Happy mothers day..
buy this Vios to our mom…hehe
here a nice video for our mom..
[quote comment="237149"]I second king…..service really cekik darah. we also have to use overprice toyota cap ayam engine oil (dunno what grade…ntah2 mineral je) each time. T badge le katakan….mahal le skit.[/quote]
at least got ppl real life experience here that agree with me. not like some that think they are the only one that got a car and feel they are a bigshot.
[quote comment="237254"][quote comment="237192"][quote comment="237058"][quote comment="237005"][quote comment="236992"] each service averaging around RM 600-900.in total. madness!!![/quote]
Sound like bluffing by king. Grow up and get a car, king.[/quote]
why should i bluff? i can get invoice to prove it…but i get you that what you can you give me? a jug of beer? haha. next you will say i photoshop the invoice. never can please a toyota fanboy. wasting my time. and i don't need to
don't talk like a immature kid ok. i am already having my 5th car now. only my fiat punto cost as much as that servicing. ppl already know that regardless whether i post here or not. only ignorant fools listen to pasar malam talk by aunties and think they are very smart.
too bad toyota fanboys never mature…[/quote]
Again, king, please grow up and get a car, I meant a real car where you can drive. Until then, stop the nonsense.[/quote]
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why should i stop? are you the owner of this blog? go start your own blog then you can tell ppl to stop.
so don't act like a owner when you are nobody but a toyota salesman if i'm not mistaken. you got a problem then get lost.
i got a right to let ppl know bout REAL facts…[/quote]
You have your every right to comments as well as I do. I don’t own any blog and I don’t sell anything. You should stop the nonsense in your comment but instead put the facts (this are what grow up do). So, please get a car that can be driven and then start commenting. Oh, those who are agree with the nonsense by you, they are just like you; probably they need a car also.
Cheers
vios j manual, vvt, manual tranny 100 at 3000
gen2 manual, cps, manual tranny 100 at 2800
this time cheap proton is way a batter car.
[quote comment="236451"]Additionally, the Fuel Consumption for the Vios is horrendous! A full tank can hardly get you 350km in the city. When asked to the SC, they said the new vios is "like that wan!".[/quote]
Eh funny I owned a new vios and my full tank can easily bring me to 450km – 500km in city driving? Really curious where you get your figure from?
Bro, I previously i uses toyota product until i realize the cheapness and overprice 'bcoz of badge' ownership. Now im happy wif my gen2 and savvy. Still got one 'cannot sell until im dead' kia spectra which drives like hell, its not a car, its a suicide machine. I also realize toyota lack of drivin refinement for that price and it include the previous camry, never drives the new one. Previous vios sucks, no driving refinement at all
Buy Nissan Lar, Hahahaha
[quote comment="237322"][quote comment="237254"][quote comment="237192"][quote comment="237058"][quote comment="237005"][quote comment="236992"] each service averaging around RM 600-900.in total. madness!!![/quote]
Sound like bluffing by king. Grow up and get a car, king.[/quote]
why should i bluff? i can get invoice to prove it…but i get you that what you can you give me? a jug of beer? haha. next you will say i photoshop the invoice. never can please a toyota fanboy. wasting my time. and i don't need to
don't talk like a immature kid ok. i am already having my 5th car now. only my fiat punto cost as much as that servicing. ppl already know that regardless whether i post here or not. only ignorant fools listen to pasar malam talk by aunties and think they are very smart.
too bad toyota fanboys never mature…[/quote]
Again, king, please grow up and get a car, I meant a real car where you can drive. Until then, stop the nonsense.[/quote]
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why should i stop? are you the owner of this blog? go start your own blog then you can tell ppl to stop.
so don't act like a owner when you are nobody but a toyota salesman if i'm not mistaken. you got a problem then get lost.
i got a right to let ppl know bout REAL facts…[/quote]
You have your every right to comments as well as I do. I don’t own any blog and I don’t sell anything. You should stop the nonsense in your comment but instead put the facts (this are what grow up do). So, please get a car that can be driven and then start commenting. Oh, those who are agree with the nonsense by you, they are just like you; probably they need a car also.
Cheers[/quote]
haha, you are a real clown. what nonsence am i stating? I am merely sharing my past experience with others. Doesn't mean if you don't agree with others mean that they are talking nonsence and need to buy " your" car. c'mon, you are not a spoilt brat kid. Not everyone gotta listen and agree with you. so stop acting like one.
And i don't know what is you problem thinking you are the only one here that own a car. If you level of mentality is that low, then i have better things to do than replying to someone like you. Or maybe you think that only your vios dugong is a real car while other cars are toys right?
Haha…real funny TOYOTA SALESMAN trying to sell a car here.
[quote comment="237466"][quote comment="237322"][quote comment="237254"][quote comment="237192"][quote comment="237058"][quote comment="237005"][quote comment="236992"] each service averaging around RM 600-900.in total. madness!!![/quote]
Sound like bluffing by king. Grow up and get a car, king.[/quote]
why should i bluff? i can get invoice to prove it…but i get you that what you can you give me? a jug of beer? haha. next you will say i photoshop the invoice. never can please a toyota fanboy. wasting my time. and i don't need to
don't talk like a immature kid ok. i am already having my 5th car now. only my fiat punto cost as much as that servicing. ppl already know that regardless whether i post here or not. only ignorant fools listen to pasar malam talk by aunties and think they are very smart.
too bad toyota fanboys never mature…[/quote]
Again, king, please grow up and get a car, I meant a real car where you can drive. Until then, stop the nonsense.[/quote]
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why should i stop? are you the owner of this blog? go start your own blog then you can tell ppl to stop.
so don't act like a owner when you are nobody but a toyota salesman if i'm not mistaken. you got a problem then get lost.
i got a right to let ppl know bout REAL facts…[/quote]
You have your every right to comments as well as I do. I don’t own any blog and I don’t sell anything. You should stop the nonsense in your comment but instead put the facts (this are what grow up do). So, please get a car that can be driven and then start commenting. Oh, those who are agree with the nonsense by you, they are just like you; probably they need a car also.
Cheers[/quote]
haha, you are a real clown. what nonsence am i stating? I am merely sharing my past experience with others. Doesn't mean if you don't agree with others mean that they are talking nonsence and need to buy " your" car. c'mon, you are not a spoilt brat kid. Not everyone gotta listen and agree with you. so stop acting like one.
And i don't know what is you problem thinking you are the only one here that own a car. If you level of mentality is that low, then i have better things to do than replying to someone like you. Or maybe you think that only your vios dugong is a real car while other cars are toys right?
Haha…real funny TOYOTA SALESMAN trying to sell a car here.[/quote]
Again, king, grow up and get a real car. Stop the nonsense in your comment. I don’t sell anything and I don’t make any profit here. But it is for your own good that you have a car and start commenting based on your experience later on and not by telling lies and pick up hearsay, until then please grow up and get a car. And if you are really bluffing, why don’t you just admitted it, it easy.
Cheers
still never ending story arrr… please stop to marking people… we are writing in english… people in the world can google here easily… i hope king could sharing his 5th car servicing experience with the world.
Actually i recently bought Vios is because of body chasis much better than proton body. Heard from overseas that proton rated less then 2stars u see how week the body is compare to vios. 2nd is less probelm for me to worry in vios compare with proton . I think that Honda, Toyota and Nissan quality still much more better then proton. You all have to look in the big picture not because of the interior or exterior. Anyway the TRD just want to make money and con all of Msia. Modified urself always the best
to jay,
haha…is this you way of selling cars? really an arrogant method.Did UMW train you to be like that?
You said you are not selling cars, but you keep asking ppl to buy cars even when they already have many cars.Don't you even understand simple english?
Again i repeat:
i already got 2 cars and i don't want to buy your filthy car ok? get it into your thick skull please…
to perotiga,
i want to stop too, but got some clowns come from nowhere and accuse ppl of bluffing and asking ppl to buy his products. really uneducated…
Unfortunately ppl that really go to UMW to service before know that what i'm saying is the truth. No matter what you do you still can't cover up the truth.
did u guys check out the VIOS GT!!!!!!. (http://www.toyota.co.th/en/models/vios/vios_gt/)….ada bodykit o……..rims, exaust(tip)……but then……..still……erm…….cosmetics……a budget version of the s type and slot between E type spec and J spec…….since T is there, why not just slot in a STARTER KIT vios…..metal rim…all manual window, 1.3 manual( so we can transform it to 4E-FTE or passo turbo) front n rear Black bumper. engine n gear box from MYVI. better rite, n slot inbetween myvi se n vios J spec. rm 63k…… even better……
come on toyota……u can do it……. make more money like tat……rebadge it to P2 n u get a sub 60k Perodua Vios………good idea o TOY-OTAK……keep sucking our money………
by that time…P1(i support u 100%) will get us a kick @ss SAGA R3 wit 1.6 cps manual, decent bodykit, lotus tuned suspension…….the wira 1.8 in the early days with recaro seats was the THING! b4 the satria GTI…..those days are coming back to HUNT or HAUNT toy-otak……I CANT WAIT 4THAT DAY….
toy-otak DUGONG KING aka VIOS TRD manual VS PROTON SAGA R3/GTI cps….there u are…….make my dream come true PROTON!!!
Guys,
Anything ask me ok? I have a Vios-S now. Service is quite expensive during warranty. After almost 2 years i just service outside, void the warranty. But I can get good FC around 450KM per tank in city driving. This one depend on driver laa. But i regret buying the Vios-S so expensive for so call luxury car because i wanted the dark interior (89k). That time they only had Vios E, G and S. I should buy the J spec much cheaper.
It is your money, up to you to buy or not. Don't force anyone to buy. But to me this TRD not worth the money.
wow… a dugonggt… event lady belta in japan never ever has this… this is thai dugong species. but i want japan species because i believe i will very enjoy shopping pasar pagi daily with lady belta.
[quote comment="237520"]to jay,
haha…is this you way of selling cars? really an arrogant method.Did UMW train you to be like that?
You said you are not selling cars, but you keep asking ppl to buy cars even when they already have many cars.Don't you even understand simple english?
Again i repeat:
i already got 2 cars and i don't want to buy your filthy car ok? get it into your thick skull please…
to perotiga,
i want to stop too, but got some clowns come from nowhere and accuse ppl of bluffing and asking ppl to buy his products. really uneducated…
Unfortunately ppl that really go to UMW to service before know that what i'm saying is the truth. No matter what you do you still can't cover up the truth.[/quote]
King, talk is cheap; if you have a proof of what you are saying here, bring it on. Otherwise it just nonsense or bluffing. Show me that your mentality is high and educated like you said. You don’t have to put harsh words on me. Saying nasty thing and tell lie are not from those who are educated, I bet we can agree on that. If you are not grow up yet, that is fine and that is why I ask you to grow up. If you don’t have a car yet, that’s not bad either, get one then, any brand you like so that you can share your experience here. And lastly, stop giving statement in your comments if you can’t proof it. It alright if you lied before, just admitted it, it easy. Anyway, since you made an assumption that I am a salesman in your couples of comments which I am not, I can assume that you are just a kid who about to grow up and craze about car.
The ball is in your court right now, having any proof mate? Nobody is covering up the truth but I sense that you try to cover up your lies.
Cheers
[quote comment="237545"][quote comment="237520"]to jay,
haha…is this you way of selling cars? really an arrogant method.Did UMW train you to be like that?
You said you are not selling cars, but you keep asking ppl to buy cars even when they already have many cars.Don't you even understand simple english?
Again i repeat:
i already got 2 cars and i don't want to buy your filthy car ok? get it into your thick skull please…
to perotiga,
i want to stop too, but got some clowns come from nowhere and accuse ppl of bluffing and asking ppl to buy his products. really uneducated…
Unfortunately ppl that really go to UMW to service before know that what i'm saying is the truth. No matter what you do you still can't cover up the truth.[/quote]
King, talk is cheap; if you have a proof of what you are saying here, bring it on. Otherwise it just nonsense or bluffing. Show me that your mentality is high and educated like you said. You don’t have to put harsh words on me. Saying nasty thing and tell lie are not from those who are educated, I bet we can agree on that. If you are not grow up yet, that is fine and that is why I ask you to grow up. If you don’t have a car yet, that’s not bad either, get one then, any brand you like so that you can share your experience here. And lastly, stop giving statement in your comments if you can’t proof it. It alright if you lied before, just admitted it, it easy. Anyway, since you made an assumption that I am a salesman in your couples of comments which I am not, I can assume that you are just a kid who about to grow up and craze about car.
The ball is in your court right now, having any proof mate? Nobody is covering up the truth but I sense that you try to cover up your lies.
Cheers[/quote]
haha, this is getting better and better… i didn't know ppl that post in this forum need to prove that they own a car? who you think you are? the police ? JPJ?
please la…i don't need to prove anything to a salesman…if you ask nicely i may consider providing some pictures.
hmmm..better not…as "kurang ajar" ppl may vandalise my car when on the road. To others no problem…but surely not to you.
Still asking me to buy a car, boy you are really stubborn person.
Anyway,this topic is about dugong TRD, not about my car.
I'm sure to you thousands of ppl are lying also when they are complaining about UMW service centre's cekik pricing and bad service. No wonder there is no improvement until now.
wake up from your dreamland la…if you never had the chance to service at UMW, then do some reseach 1st before opening your mouth here. you know the websites, no need me to teach you.
Otherwise when you open you mouth, ppl already know you are either a blind supporting fanboy / toyota salesman or come from the jungle.
So go and do you research 1st then only come back and talk to me. I will not waste anymore time replying to stubborn and uneducated ppl.
Period.
frankly.. those who insult vios are those who CANNOT AFFORD it. secondly, the honda CITY is at no better position to be of higher standard as compared to vios. btw, NISSAN LATIO IS A JOKE. i rather be f**ked to buy a latio.
and so wat if a dugong is a dugong?.. you people posting here also own lousy crap cheap cars like proton.. Gen 2?? IT's STILL A LOCAL MALAYSIAN CAR so get over it.. wanna compare with a foreign brand car. if both GEN-2 and a vios go for an accident trial, lets see which car ends up as swiss cheese.
the old vios year 2006 or year 2003 is O L D. people want to get new cars with new looks so if you wanna have that retrospective thinking go ahead, why dont you buy the 1st gen of vios then ??..
idiot people commenting hot airs. cant buy a vios just stfu.. infact those who comment are the sohai ones. if japanese people designing toyota vios a.k.a toyota belta in japan is defined as ugly or dugong,what makes you guys ? retards – sohai people.
so dont go talking crap when you guys are just too poor to accept it .
[quote comment="236258"][quote comment="236238"][quote comment="236233"]Sohai Car. Rubbish[/quote]
It's more than SOhai, just another way to get more profit out of it.
Do it with the right way, Toyota[/quote]
yea bro, do it the right way, n i luv ducks!!!!!!!![/quote]
sohai car? bro you are more sohai so if u dunno design car stfu lor. u got better car than vios say la .. if u aint got a car then go cry at a corner asking daddy to get you a vios.
EVERY COMPANY or EVERY CAR MANUFACTURER MAKES PROFIT when they are selling new cars. dont u ever study business strategy or marketing ?? if they dont earn profit whats the point of selling cars? rather go die. low mentaliy… mind you, toyota is the number 1 car manufacturer in the world.
Another BLIND who knows nothing bout CHEAP CAR FOR ASEAN MARKET
[quote comment="237600"]Another BLIND who knows nothing bout CHEAP CAR FOR ASEAN MARKET[/quote]
sometimes cheap cars to you and me are considered luxury for others. that is the effect of powerful marketing.
thats just too bad.
i have a colleague that considers his saga a luxury car.
People choose vios for their own reason. These people don't need to satisfy other people's opinion who always bashing the vios. As long they are happy, that's good. If you guys bashing dugong, then why not you guys buy an expensive car and just live with it?
to king,
It is obvious that you don’t have a proof of what you are saying. It just a bluffing or nonsense by a high mentality and educated person you are. King, please grow up and get a car, and then give comment, don’t throw lies and bluffing around, its bad for you. I don’t ask for proof that you have a car, read back previous comments, it the servicing cost that you call madness. If you have proof for that, bring it on, but if you are lying about that, just admitted it. Everybody wants the truth, so bring on the proof that you are true, not a bunch of nasty word to cover up you lies.
Cheers
[quote comment="237604"][quote comment="237600"]Another BLIND who knows nothing bout CHEAP CAR FOR ASEAN MARKET[/quote]
sometimes cheap cars to you and me are considered luxury for others. that is the effect of powerful marketing.
thats just too bad.
i have a colleague that considers his saga a luxury car.[/quote]
The king has spoken! Beware of bluffing!
Cheers
At least saga is cheap and has meter on the right place for the driver, not for the rear passenger….haha
jay and king….paul are you reading their comments? are you enjoying 2 kids quarrelling with each other LOL..
come on boys.dont be silly…it just a car…every cars has their weakness and power.just dont throw any harsh words to their cars.If u guys have a car, go anywhere n keep it properly.this TRD is looks smthing different new.If u not satisfied with this thing plez dont make it complicated.i think u should buy it first n feel it.not just take someone's opinion then conclude it as sucks
jay_bp, due to saying that servicing vios at UMW is cheap, u also need a proof to support ur statement.. king, u can show ur proof to support ur statement.. this is the only way to stopping the childish arguments.. ;)
how about that, agree?
And for me, TRD vios is kinda weird for my eyes.. most prefer 1st gen Vios. But sorry, Vios is not in "my next vehicle" list evetho it's 1st gen Vios..
protonSCfan, u've said " whos have had a waja from year 01, 02, consumable gbox's, leaky head gaskets..all normal la right…during the glory days when proton power windows failed, gbox kong, change plug every 10k"..
Some of the problem that u've mention above never encountered my 02 Waja. Gearbox kong? leaky head gasket? and CHANGE PLUG EVERY 10k? u must be kidding right? my car now clocked over 125k km on the dial.. i've a proof that my Waja's engine are free from any leaking engine oil. So far i'm only changing my spark plug and power window switch at once, not a power windows failed, but the switch was failed.. gearbox kong? none.. "Hikmah" when i'm buying Waja in 6 years 5 months ago was, i'm be able to saving more (whos say maintaining Waja will cekik darah?) and planning to buying a new house (target is semi detached, double store) in a next couple of month.. When my Waja loan settle on this November, my next vehicle on the list was Exora.. gosh.. my Waja are still healthy and still served me very, very well…
[quote comment="237683"]At least saga is cheap and has meter on the right place for the driver, not for the rear passenger….haha[/quote]
cheap? saga aint cheap.. it's worth the value. please dont use simple words to comment on cars.sound like an 8 year old. having the meter in front of you doesnt clearly show that it is safe. vios and other cars have meters on the middle of the dasboard so u can keep ur eyes on the road as well as keep to ur speed limit. u have 2 eyes u cant multi-task with each eye? at least if i drive a vios, i know my own speed and can be aware of anything happening on the road.. saga has a meter in front of the driver and then what?
if you dont know what's the reason for putting the meter at such a place,i suggest u go for a test drive.
if saga worth the value..then the racing suit dugong….(fill in the blank). a lot of vios lover and fan boy coming for the rescue.
if one said this new TRD dugong have something new, go to abang shop, you will get more various choice of look and worth the money. I bet u could stick TRD all over the car to show how great is your dugong. buy yourself a basic type J dugong, change everything to TRD la…cheaper.(can get 'local' TRD oso).
i forsee a alot of ah beng going to get fooled by this TRD dugong which is all show but no go. It all marketing gimmick from UMW for ah beng wannabe. Sportier dugong…with nothing done on engine performance…great buy. At least give la bit modification on ECU or exhaust or performance intake….(give something on performance).
recaro sear…10 hp..
TRD logo…add 10 more hp..
body kit..TRD…15 hp…
spoiler….10 hp..
huyoo…a lot of HP already. why are these people complaining anyway?
[quote comment="237581"][quote comment="236258"][quote comment="236238"][quote comment="236233"]Sohai Car. Rubbish[/quote]
It's more than SOhai, just another way to get more profit out of it.
Do it with the right way, Toyota[/quote]
yea bro, do it the right way, n i luv ducks!!!!!!!![/quote]
sohai car? bro you are more sohai so if u dunno design car stfu lor. u got better car than vios say la .. if u aint got a car then go cry at a corner asking daddy to get you a vios.
EVERY COMPANY or EVERY CAR MANUFACTURER MAKES PROFIT when they are selling new cars. dont u ever study business strategy or marketing ?? if they dont earn profit whats the point of selling cars? rather go die. low mentaliy… mind you, toyota is the number 1 car manufacturer in the world.[/quote]
Wooi, i just voice out my opinion on car, but never criticise who afford to own or not, and none of my comment put anyone down, Dude. If ur like a big Fxxking baby and oni CAN afford a vios, so sad. Didn't own a vios, or even DADDY and MUMMY can't offord to buy you one. COme and kiss my E90 and FD2R ASS if you can.
Stop being cockie, oni people with Low LOW low EQ like you look down on people.
Sorry, paultan, dun mean to be rude in my comment. but someone with the lowest mentality just pissed me off.
No more comment,
but i still love paultan.org
[quote comment="237786"]jay_bp, due to saying that servicing vios at UMW is cheap, u also need a proof to support ur statement.. king, u can show ur proof to support ur statement.. this is the only way to stopping the childish arguments.. ;)
how about that, agree?
And for me, TRD vios is kinda weird for my eyes.. most prefer 1st gen Vios. But sorry, Vios is not in "my next vehicle" list evetho it's 1st gen Vios..
protonSCfan, u've said " whos have had a waja from year 01, 02, consumable gbox's, leaky head gaskets..all normal la right…during the glory days when proton power windows failed, gbox kong, change plug every 10k"..
Some of the problem that u've mention above never encountered my 02 Waja. Gearbox kong? leaky head gasket? and CHANGE PLUG EVERY 10k? u must be kidding right? my car now clocked over 125k km on the dial.. i've a proof that my Waja's engine are free from any leaking engine oil. So far i'm only changing my spark plug and power window switch at once, not a power windows failed, but the switch was failed.. gearbox kong? none.. "Hikmah" when i'm buying Waja in 6 years 5 months ago was, i'm be able to saving more (whos say maintaining Waja will cekik darah?) and planning to buying a new house (target is semi detached, double store) in a next couple of month.. When my Waja loan settle on this November, my next vehicle on the list was Exora.. gosh.. my Waja are still healthy and still served me very, very well…[/quote]
Good suggestion, but the ‘king’ is the one who come up with the figure and I’m never said that it is cheap or expensive. If the ‘king’ can come up with reliable proof, I might agree with him and stop asking. But you know ‘king’, take a look what he replied to me all this while.
just wanna be fair and square due to both of u arguing about "cheap" and "expensive", why don't both of u propose ur own proof?.. at least it's can make this thing clear.. or, why don't just rest this case? and talk about TRD Vios's performance and safety feature if it's was really worth for every penny.. our hard earned money that every day among us "TURUN PAGI, PULANG PETANG, DAPAT GAJI, BAYAR HUTANG" ;)
[quote comment="237818"][quote comment="237581"][quote comment="236258"][quote comment="236238"][quote comment="236233"]Sohai Car. Rubbish[/quote]
It's more than SOhai, just another way to get more profit out of it.
Do it with the right way, Toyota[/quote]
yea bro, do it the right way, n i luv ducks!!!!!!!![/quote]
sohai car? bro you are more sohai so if u dunno design car stfu lor. u got better car than vios say la .. if u aint got a car then go cry at a corner asking daddy to get you a vios.
EVERY COMPANY or EVERY CAR MANUFACTURER MAKES PROFIT when they are selling new cars. dont u ever study business strategy or marketing ?? if they dont earn profit whats the point of selling cars? rather go die. low mentaliy… mind you, toyota is the number 1 car manufacturer in the world.[/quote]
Wooi, i just voice out my opinion on car, but never criticise who afford to own or not, and none of my comment put anyone down, Dude. If ur like a big Fxxking baby and oni CAN afford a vios, so sad. Didn't own a vios, or even DADDY and MUMMY can't offord to buy you one. COme and kiss my E90 and FD2R ASS if you can.
Stop being cockie, oni people with Low LOW low EQ like you look down on people.[/quote]
firstly, DID i ever say you crticise on people not affording to buy it ?? watch what you say man.. read my comments and think it over. i only commented on u saying toyota is just wanting to earn profit from the new vios.i feel insulted reading the comments above so what i wanna say is my damn problem. FD2R big deal.. E90? so what.. at least my parents dont spoil me with big cars you have. lol. you wanna go ahead and boast then fine by me. i dont need to say what cars i have cause vios is just my spare car.
and fyi andrew, you wanna take this personal be my guest. and i dun give a F**K if u drive a TYPR – R. read the previous comments and think before you say. people insulting the new vios, i am saying the fact so dont go twisting it. what's ur point of boasting ur cars? did i ever boast on the cars i have? if i have show me proof. other than that, you're putting words into my mouth cause people wanna compare a vios to a gen 2 or other low-end cars. it is the FACT that some people cannot afford it .
and i dont have low IQ. you have the slighest idea what you are saying cause you dont read the previous comments and just jump to conclusion. you are being cocky now with your 'big'cars.
[quote comment="237822"]Sorry, paultan, dun mean to be rude in my comment. but someone with the lowest mentality just pissed me off.
No more comment,
but i still love paultan.org[/quote]
zz. speak for youself. shooting in the dark and you dont even read what i say properly.