A set of images picturing a Proton Preve suffering accident damage causing the front right wheel to appear crushed in has been making its way all around the internet today, especially on social media spaces such as Facebook and forums.
Proton Edar’s Facebook account has posted a clarification on what they are claiming actually happened with the car. According to Proton Edar, the accident happened around 4.45pm yesterday where the red Proton Preve in the picture driven by a Proton Edar sales advisor hit a divider and landed in a such a manner that caused the lower arm to break, resulting in the awkward position of the front wheel in the photo.
We think Proton Edar has used its social media channel effectively in this case – rather than try to bury the story it has come out to try to explain what actually happened (many people were coming up with their own conclusions on how the wheel ended up in such a position), and signed off with an advice to everyone to drive safe so that such accidents would not happen. Of course, only those at the scene would have really 100% known what really took place exactly. There doesn’t appear to be much other damage that can be seen on the car other than the wheel.
Perhaps the sales advisor was too enthusiastic about the new turbo engine’s torque. We at paultan.org would also like to remind everyone to drive safe. Proton has entered a new era with turbocharged engines in two of their models now – the Preve and the Exora Bold. The new turbo engine makes more torque at a lower RPM than most people are used to, so don’t go crazy before you learn your new car’s limits.
Give yourself some time to get acquainted with the car, which is especially hard to do if it’s a test drive unit – there’s definitely not enough time to learn the car’s full behaviour! It’s really not necessary to drive a test drive car as if you stole it just because you can – after all how often are you going to trash your car during your course of ownership?
You can click the image above to view the full message or head onto Proton Edar’s Facebook.
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only God knows the true story behind….
Nonetheless a bad publicity, people will speculate. Ouch
i’m amazed, very amazed now that most die hard p1 fanboys here know
what really happened from the tiny picture, really blind die hard p1 fanboys
those who dont like u p1 fanboys insult them stupid, ugly, no brainer etc
if u p1 die hard fans really luv & support p1 then go & book 1 each of u,
no point just talk cock here & there, go buy 1 each of u or shut the fcuk up!
in the end only the sales number can tell how much u blind die hard p1 luv
& support ur… proton sayang eh..proton sayang sayang eh….
Hahahaha. Kereta global konon. Hanya yang bodoh memilih!
why do you hate proton so much? what have they done to you or your family? I’m sure your comment will be different if the situation above happened to a vios or forte. get a life dude…
Armandd, his cat been hit by BLM. What do u expect him not to hate?
he was expecting proton to fix preve price at 40k and so upset now that he cant afford it
if they compare persona n vios handling.. persona is the best.. myvi out of league..
I hate proton because the moment the company’s got deficit they will propose to govt that people with 20 years old car need to scrap or trade in w proton 2k. Secondly i see many previous protons dont use real engine gaskets. Only use gasket glue only. Thirdly water can go to rear bonnet. Fourth, dashboard failure. Too much separate joints makes the dashboard rattles.
Just because to protect Proton and crony, we all paid almost double for any car. Some more local model’s quality and spec is lower than export model which is selling lower price. Why double standard? Just do a test on Preve, use yr hand press hard on the body to feel and compare with other car with the closer price.
I still remember last year when a new prius burnt without reason somewhere in kerinchi. And back in 2007, a new camry also burnt. Still people say toyota good.
Be fair.
Lots of people hates proton because they are one of the companies that causing us to pay almost double price for imported cars, and also for the price some paid for Proton, it’s way over price for a local manufactured car! Just compare the quality of Proton with any other foreign cars! Most protons failed Euro ncap test, while small cars like ford fiesta get good rating! Also most road hoggers are Ah Bengs driving proton! Some even modify the protons to the likes of BMW, Audi or least to said their twins like Lancer etc. If can’t affort the ori, just stick to what u paid! Don’t modify them like stupid assholes!
What is your comment when lambo get burned recently? That one is luxury-sport-car.. But then since it is not proton.. It seems like nothing wrong.. The same thing happened for toyota.. The whole world know.. With the brake problem, it still moving forward.. And what is your comment? People like you will said, that show how professional toyota when they dare to recall.. But when that kind of thing happened to proton, people like you will response.. ” you see.. Simple like this cannot do properly.. Still want to talk about global.. Go to ____! Stu___!”
still remember one fella with a lot of stickers on his Accord cursing Honda for his brake problems… where were the haters then? hmmm… maybe there’s nothing wrong if Honda or Toyota kills; but if it is Protons; the comments are infinite…
maybe u think u can afford japs or koreans u have ur own class and u can hate others?… i wonder if u haters die, will u want a grave or a junkyard?
Most here is proton fanboy. Well understandable, it is proton article anywaybut Can we just have a good informative convo without slamming each other and just stating facts and individuals opinion? Btw this accident, i assume when they claims the accident happened at speed of 120km/h i found it quite hards to believe because in that speed the car (any car) damage should be more severe and after one accident myself i think perhaps that is the last speedometer reading before the driver hit the brake and slow down before hitting the devider . Hence explaines the lack of damage to the car.
Personally i do believe proton’s car chasis is sufficiently strong. I got an accident in gen2 spinning twice on the road due to avoiding incoming traffic (i was driving about 140km/h) hit devider turns turtle slam into a roadside about 3m deep ditch and landing back first upside down. I kid u not only back winscreen smashed(but of course other tin parts of the car quite substantially damaged) . The rest of glasses including windscreen intact. I survive without s single scratch (except for the im a freaking good driver atitute). True story.
The problem with preve is .. Price.. . Its not good looking (my personal opinion only). Got all (maybe more) bells and wistle like some korean offerings but doesnt have the badge. We are paying 2 times the actual price of foreign car in malaysia. On that logic proton should sell their car at half the price of comparable foreign cars.Who are we kidding for middle class to part with 70k (dammit, almost my whole year salary), a car is not just a need but a statement and unfortunately owning a proton is not a good success statement nowadays. It should be priced at 55 to 60k max.
Malaysian are not stupid. Enough said.
Msian are not stupid but arrogant.
even BMW can be like tin milo if u don;t drive carefully.
remember what car killed Lady Diana?
Have u read stories bout Ferrari can easily explode?
read new bout FLYING MYVI?
things can happen to any car.
be matured please!
well said ;D
XD
Well said.
Anything could happen to any car.
It’s all about how you control/drive the car.
OMG….tiada “ONG” lah – meant bad luck.
Agreed totally be sensible and think.
Well said but proven nothing about the truth.
Murders happen everyday, everywhere, but in Malaysia, the death of Altantuya, TBH, Kugan & Sarbari were not ‘explained ‘.
Corrupted politics are everywhere, in every other countries, but in Malaysia, the truth about the RM250mil cow project was not handled well.
Cheats in any contest is so common, let alone during election, which happens in all countries too. But in Malaysia, every cheat uncovered – be it phantom voters, foreign temporary voters… The truth was never explained convincingly.
The same with this Proton accident, it might be a genuine accident – be more transparent, tell all to convince the public that it was not as what they imagined. The Malaysian public is not arrogant – just that too many incidents happened went unexplained well, causing most of to lose faith with government related entity.
I am sure, if Proton cares to reveal more of the truth, it will win back more potential customers. The truth always shines!
Just my 2¢ sharing!
I seriously don’t understand with people trying to turn every issues about msia product into politics. give it a rest. we are really worst at describing our self yet alone try to impress people outside.
Proton try to explain yet still people condemn their sincerity. give it rest!
Those who alleged differently, like they said the wheel came off are the ones who should prove that the wheel really came off. Why the accused need to go through the trouble?
p1 ALREADY REVEAL THE TRUTH, but, no one seem to believe………
Just my “20” cents.
dude!!! get a live…don’t try to relate everything with gov conspiracy….
If Malaysian are arrogant, they won’t be buying Proton and get insulted in service centre with “Proton memang macam ini”
yes anything can happen… but what important was the percentage of survival the car have made… how many bmw drivers were killed if compared to proton and other newbie production???????????????????????
bro, u go to BMW/MERC showroom and ask them which model thay have prevent you from serious hurt if involve in accident….then buy one. Or you can look for second hand Rally car…that have rollcage, bucket seat etc…
why not you compare it with P2 cars as well???
120km/h and that’s only the damage!!i’m salute Proton for making such huge improvement for their new car.im reckon, all the safety features work well!!
120KM…?????/ No way! This is biggest BS. Any car in 120km accident will be in a very bad situation. Not lightly like this pic. I know you like P! as with you call sign, but…come-on…! we are not idiots here.(like you). Go google vids for accident or high speed accident test, and you see what happens to cars involed in 110km accident.
the divider they said is the one with black white strips color,sumthg lik hump or slightly higher… bt not the divider wall as u imagined…
yes, mrworldwide, it does not matter if you hit it or it hit you. At120km……the part of the car will look like a melted cheese in the oven. Lucky for you, today is sat, our weekly “family” dinner, my uncle, holds ME, and EE and his sons, one EE, the other working in US, holds physics degree from and working in chicago, now live by facetime, would like to say this…watch the 1st video, its 45mile an hour test, the second one give you an idea of 80km/h crash, at 40-44sec. mark, and the third, maybe our saleman think he is in a carpark competition. the s2000 hit a curb too. the last one is by my dad request, asking suv not to drive too fast,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hc9W4X9qBZk&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AC22qb-xXqY&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTW8I_fqlmc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlKo7797B7o
Have a nice weekend.
Btw, i do hope P1 can do well too. our company uses a number of them.
Daddy’s boy blue-traveller,
It’s your dads company or your company or your boss company.
Daddy ‘s boy is not welcomed here
Saya boleh terima kalau preve ni langgar divider so menyebabkan arm dia patah. Tapiiiiiiiii…. betul ke langgar divider???… mana polis report nya??? keeeee “LANGGAR LUBANG” menyebabkan arm dia patah…. huyooooo… BAHAYA…..NYAAAAAA…. lagi satu kalau langgar divider bukan ke dah habis remuk lampu depan sebelah kanan tu paling tak pun bumper sebelah kanan tu habis… tengok in the picture elok jer…. “Berhati-hati di jalanraya, pandu cermat jiwa selamat” p/s takut juga masa tgh memandu ada tayar bergolek potong kita…. ish ish ish …..pelik2…. rupa2nya tayar kita sendiri… dah macam kereta Mr Bean “Jangan bohong, tuhan marah”….
layment term divider bagi orang Malaysia ni adalah side road curb. bende kecik yg 4WD leh panjat tp kete2 sedan xleh pankjat..yg warna belang2 hitam putih tu…die hantam tu la..tgk gamba ktne kte tu landed dah leh agak langgar ape. use your God given brain ok
Setakat nih fakta yg ada:
120kmh…
Langgar curb tepi jalan…
Takkan patah under arm tayar terkepak macam itu?
It is just not right!
If you guys – esp. who been watching the whole seasons of CSI – think logically, the wheel shouldn’t be terkopak like that.
Ini macam camber negative kaw2…
rakyat mesia ingat divider tu satu je kot,yang tinggi/besar mcm kt highway yg ade besi hijau tu…
Mr. Aripson.. baca btol2 artikel diatas ya…. kereta tu tidak setakat langgar devider je… Kereta tu juga melambung sebelum landing dgn impak yg kuat diatas jalanraya. Baca dan fahami btol2 artikel tu sebelum komen apa2.. ataupun u ni tak berapa paham bahasa inggeris kot? Nampak sgt buduh tu…
tongkatatuk
kereta tu bergerak dengan laju, ada daya momentum. Bukan statik. Tentulah ia akan melambung dan terhempas ke bumi balik dalam keadaan nose dive beberapa darjah. bila cara peluncuran masa jatuh tak seimbang, arm atau screw atau nut yang berkaitan tentu tercabut.
Dulu aku kutuk Gen2 macam kau la… lepas tu aku beli jugak. Then sampai sekarang okey pulak. Janganlah jilat ludah sendiri macam aku. Kau kalau dah tengok Preve potong / cucuk kereta kau jangan deengki pulak. Preve tu pun nampak besar dan mahal tau.
preve nampak mahal tp material murah hahaha
Aku dah trade in Alza dengan Preve Full Spec, dah dapat Jumaat Lepas…….memang terbaik. Pakai Alza boring…tekan minyak, tengok meter jer. Preve boleh main manual n auto, nak power naik bukit guna Sport mode (gear S) dan mcm2 ada. setakat beli kereta basic T, H lebih baik beli Preve.
Sebelum proton nak jual Preve, dia kena buat macam2 test. kes ni terpencil jer….Ferrari pun terbakar kat jalan. Banyak yg komen mengarut2 tanpa berfikir.
Alza mmg boring. Tapi to buy a Proton? no more. No matter what its name or design.
I was a proton fan. So much in love with Proton. Some of my family members bought Proton. Some have problems but I wont mind after looking at DSZ determination to improve Proton.
I bought a Persona Hi Line. 1st Month, Power window problem. -fixed at EON service. 4th Month, Rear brake lamp faulty – fixed at EON Service. 5th Month, Gearbox problem. Now in EON service. 1 week, they said changed the computer box. then inform me issue replicated. they need another 2 weeks to order new part and replace the gearbox. Log case to proton i-care. A Proton engineer with “IR” title (yes he stated his title when introducing his name) called me and inform me he will look into it. The next day I called him for update, he asked me to call the service center myself.
So there goes my Proton Persona, 5 months old. Thanks a lot Proton!!! Thats gonna be my 1st and last Proton product.
Flying myvi is becos no proton ride and handling.
Given the choice, I would rather risk my life in a Mercedes Benz/BMW/Ferrari than a Proton. Would you? Such a hypocrite.
It does not matter in what type of car you die in an accident – you are consider DEAD!
Check out the Vios vs Camry crash test or Audi Q7 vs Fiat crash test ! not every type of cars are the same ! without airbags and less safety features,then consider to dead ! yes some time just by the luck but at least the safety features and the solid body can save u ! if they r not important i think automotive manufacturers can just use those plastic to cover their body :)
Yes i agree , u should buy mer/BMW because u are cowed
feel free to get one. it’s your money…nobody is going to stop you from doing that :)
BMW like tin milo? Don’t pull crap from your arse please.
This 2013 BMW M5 crashed at 300km/h without killing the driver or passengers.
http://jalopnik.com/5903592/this-new-bmw-m5-crashed-going-186-mph-on-the-autobahn
BMW built is strong. That you cannot deny.
Yet, the the M5 crashed at 300km/h without killing the driver is pure luck given how the incident actually happened. It will be another story if it was a head on collision or crashed with any moving or stalled objects.
Nevertheless, this M5 did a good job minimizing the driver injury. I see curtain airbags deployed. And the shell is strong enough given the car had rolled several times.
Anyway, drive safely!
Care to explain
http://www.m5board.com/vbulletin/attachments/off-topic-forum/51985d1195192622-e60-m5-crash-pics-m5-1.jpg
This 1..bmw oso
http://www.car-accidents.com/2005-Car-pics/7-29-05.jpg
And 1 more
http://www.car-accidents.com/2008-collision-pics/6-17-08-bmw650-crash-1.jpg
I remember last year, one whole Malay family in a 3 series BMW back from vacation passed away after crashing into truck that park at emergency lane Innalillah… That BMW totally crashed and burn. Accident happened in early morning maybe driver sleepy and hit the truck.
i tot of posting this..but u post it already..hehe
Want to try your luck with this stunt? Electronic, electrical and mechanical devices can malfunction at that crucial moment!
The bmw still milo tin since the passenger compartment badly damage…and the accident not head-on but left-right-left-right before teblk several time..try 300 head-on..i think seat belt n airbag will not save u if u fly outside the car after accident….even passenger of aeroplane can survive 2km dive + >300kmh coz pure luck
so buy a proton then
Io btI to buy ferrari want
2013????
OMG…..now people concern about is it cause by manufacturing defect….??? or else…
BMW again? …Still want to compare with BMW? You really believe in your own prowness. BMW wannabe.
If you put proton equals to other carmakers, then i rest my case..duh..
You should be more matured……Accident?? Proton may lie to some gullible malaysias like you because its so easy….you are so gullible….how the hell does the lower arm break but the bumper and evrything else is intact in an accident…..
Manufaturer defect is confirm…but stop lying Proton….admit your mistake and improve…people will acknowledge u better…
How is anything confirmed? kindly explain mr not-so-gullible sir..enjoy the video blow to enlighten your prejudice mind
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LBDD1NL9iM
are you comparing a new 2012 car to an old….70s car? That is so wrong on so many level.
zzz, he’s making a point of how lower arm could bent without damaging other parts of car
i believe you are one of the witnesses that was lucky enough to watched the scene :)
I just drove a car that flew quite some height after speeding rm180 on bumpy road yet didnt break like the Pre-fail.
FAIL!!!
But hey, those continentals didn’t wreck before they officially go to public hands do they? After like what, 3 to 5 years only problems creep up? This is barely 6 months!
malaysian are no stupid, but prefer buying myvi at persona price. haha
Myvi a rebadged of Toyota Passo. Buying toyota at proton price ?
not a passo.. daihatsu boon la wei…
Becoz of lousy quality proton I think..
I’ve had Myvi and Persona at the same time. Try driving Myvi and Persona at 140km/h or above and you’ll see a big difference. Persona beats Myvi at every area, handling, comfort, stability, quietness…….unless of course you’re talking about quality. But my myvi’s two power windows were not working but Persona’s ones were working fine all this while. Have you driven these two cars? If not, stop making baseless comment like this.
u dont tok kok can anot…2 different category cars..why not u compare ur persona with with bmw 3 series
u talking more cock.. comparing 3 series with persona.. different catagory and furthermore different price gap. one 3 series can buy 5 persona la stupid!
I don’t get you, butthurt much having a myvi?
Don’t talk cock, who drives those cars at those speeds deserve what they get, speeding summons or crash and burn or both. Stupid idiot on crappy local roads want to speed like mad. If you want to leave this world do it quietly in a lonely corner not on the roads.
I can agree with U. I also have P1, P2, Japs & Conti. My P2 driver’s side power window had broken (only one year old). My P1, so far so good.
Let’s not talk about the Jap and the Conti.
My conclusion is every cars has its own problems… Just hope the SC & manufacturers will respond positively.
In P1 case, I see marked improvements in how they handle their customers.
my 2010 myvi power windows work fine! i use them all the time! you must be terribly unlucky.
Power window switch failure and warped disk brakes are 2 known issues with myvi.
Perodua yet to learn from daihatsu & toyota how to do a recall. They’ve learnt how to dismantle bumpers and logo though.
sometimes it’s a matter of the main purpose of buying a car. some of us buy myvi as a 2nd car. small engine is enough.
Instead of suspecting Malaysian are stupid, why don’t you sit down and ponder why most are buying Myvi than Proton.
Unlike proton…perodua depend almost totally with myvi,viva,myvi mpv(forgot the name dont wan google)..proton inspira, preve, persona, neo, saga, exora, (savvy, gen2, waja, perdana)
LOL
toyota wannabe lah…apa lagi…
they think by owning myvi like owning a toyota passo lah…..
my mom..my uncle dont have any idea that myvi is related to passo or toyota. bought myvi after using iswara,satria,perdana,perdana v6..;)
Myvi is indeed related to Passo.
Still better than associating with BMW that clearly got nothing to do with them like Proton than syok sendiri.
wah itu sales advisor moosti kena manyak2 teruk ini kali…
Confirmed!
Boss tentu tanya: “Wei, miker bawa keta mcmana?”
Itu belum lagi kena panggei dengan Tun Dr. Mahathir – Penasihat Proton!
I think i will rather go for the overpriced Polo Sedan ! at least that’s a truly global brand’ VW ‘ :D expired broken Durian is an expired broken Durian…never trust this so called global car and cheap brand again !
My wife said to me after seeing the launcing on tv “why the back of polo sedan looks like cars in 80s?”. Care to give the reason why it looks so bad? I could not give her a good reply. It’s the vw that you’d go for after all.
True…dont really like the design of the Polo, but it is a global brand nevertheless and it has a proven motor…not to mention…VW has won numerous awards. Safety wise…VW is in a different league. As for this car..no one knows. The NCAP they are talking about is crap. If they want to go global, they should send it to be assessed by EURO NCAP. That is the benchmark everyone refers to…not some half past six NCAP or even Australian NCAP. So what if it scores 5 stars there? A Proton has never scored more than 3 stars under EURO NCAP. I think they are not confident yet to send the car over. They would rather sell the car to the Malaysians first..ie use them as test mules…
it’s not like that. NCAP picks a random car from the market. Not sent by the manufacturer..
http://www.euroncap.com/Content-Web-Faq/5076ae48-c23c-4933-ad63-0449b3a6425b/cars-chosen-for-testing.aspx
It’s true that euro ncap Choose the cars they want to test, however a responsible manufacturer will send in their car for assessment by sponsoring the test. There should be a budget allocated for this. I’m sure Proton did this for their Waja. I doubt euro ncap chose to assess the Waja which never sold in huge numbers in Europe in the first place. They should do the same for Preve to give the car some credibility when it comes to safety. As it says in the website, manufacturers are allowed to send in their cars by sponsoring the test.
If not mistaken, Waja for only 2 star for Euro NCAP test!
Hahaha , best le bro KG….
Thank goodness I cancelled my booking n top up for a vw!!! family safety first!
Please include “kangaroo bars” all round.
cancel also the vw ambk lori ke pickup ke..if naik divider ur family safe!!
OMG…ini lah “drive it to believe it” …hahaha….
I still believe more in the new Ford Focus. I prefer a quiet and smooth car.
SMART GUY GET IT!!! HAHAHAHA.
Be careful when drive your pulotong ya.
You sui sendiri cukup, don’t hit other innocent road users. Thanks in advance.
What said hope it is truth…H/e many times “sakit hati” when proton service centre ppl say “ni proton bang, model ni memang macam itu”. Persona owner…
only god and the driver know the true story..
Great move… Good start… What happen is beyond your control; but you can change the outcome… make it be positive promotion media for you!
can be a good marketing for P1.they don’t need to sent a test car to Top Gear for testing in order to prove their car is better and safer.hahaha
Totally agree with you Vincent.
Remember the black eyes that happened to the F1 supremo sometimes ago?
Only that , the relevant department at P1 should think something that is original.
And , to be better , educating all , no matter who , about road safety..
How about this? If they can make a car that they claim to be the best from them , so doing some kind of publicity seems like a piece of kacang right? Not saying that they need to use this same piece of junk.If they can send a car for crash test , or make a raksaksa pijak a car to show it’s so keras, better think for education to all.
AN OPEN CHALLENGE FOR PROTON TO DO IT!
MAKE US PROUD!
haters gonna hate
Preve got crushed dude..so pity..
First preve involved accident in malaysia
dont be so sad…lower front crumple zone tested and working!!!…
anyone got higher res photo? cant confirm if the airbag deployed…
tested crumple zone would crumple after test. the picture doesnot look like it was tested.
Take a closer look.
http://mybestcardealer.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/proton-preve-2012-accident.jpg
Airbags did NOT deploy. Not trying to bash around alright, just showing the truth.
air bag did nt deploy bcause the system think tat the impact is not deadly enough
hit a divider???..dun lie la..divider on the left hand side lehhhhhhhhhhhh
I assume you aren’t on facebook, else you would have seen the picture, it’s a left turn, there is of cause divider at the right side!
A divider between two lanes of different direction, should be on the right.
Just blame the driver.. Not the car.
Stupidity kills…
cant agreed more.. haha.. stupid SA.
Doesn’t look like an accident to me
Which part of the car got hit?
accident doesn’t always mean the car has to hit something. in this case, the car hit the divider which is low, so the bumper not affected. only tyre..yes, only the tyre hit the divider and the car slam down after that. the result is tie rod break.
don’t believe? try it to believe it with your car.
give me your car we all in paultan try to demo u see,mau????
even how awkard did it landed. it proves that the materials used are inferior for such a minor accident. just imagine if this car got involved in a real crash with another vehicle.
Hitting a kerb will destroy your suspension arm. It’s a hard impact. Try it with a BMW and see what happens.
Agree with you Aswan.
I was involved in a mishap and was in a similar situation with a volvo (that safe car brand) at around 90kmh only. so yeah, if it’s another brand, the same can be applied. I didnt drive it tho when it happened… so don’t shoot me, accidents can happen when you least expect it (malang tidak berbau).
the arm bent and the car chassis has to be realigned and the tyre went into shape as what is in the picture. Nope, no bumper/body has substantial amount of distortion on my car when it happened, but it was a sad situation.
this preve case is similar. if you look properly the bumper on the affected tyre was offset a bit. crumple zone worked, it crumpled to absorb the impact and returned back to original shape. maybe need to look at the hooks. dun blame the hooks not strong tho, it served a purpose – to absorb impact energy, for your and the car’s essential components’ safety.
on cars nowadays crumple zone allocated at certain part of the car. usually the front hood (or where the engine is) and driver and passengers’ cabin have shell made from ultra high strength steel. crumple zone works in great ways, even at certain impact situation an engine is engineered to dislodge from the car, in order to divert the energy from the impact away from the passengers.
bro Raoul, can you give us a picture of your volvo after the accident? I still believe that there is no safe cars, Only safe drivers. No offense…
Actually, I’m thinking WHAT car can survive if got involved in a REAL CRASH WITH ANOTHER VEHICLE.
DOES my question make sense to you?
This can also show Preve is a good car. 120KM accident only right wheel broken.
Here is hoping Proton install height adjustable seatbelts :)
yep, even ncap they dunt test up to that speeds
why not they test at 200kmh NCAP. LOL
Proton Bashers cant accept it and will keep say Proton try to cover out …….. sometime i do pity Proton marketers !!!!
cant believe it..how can the rim/tyre looks very good without any dent if the car hit the divider until it flies?..this is impossible..
This mean Preve easily damage with small hit by divide. lousy car. i will give negative rating. Please ask Proton collect back n do more research on robustness on their new car.
there is no such thing as a car able to hit a divider and still come out without damage.
Even my father hilux….ball join also broke
Bawak kereta kebal rempuh divider baru lepas. Setakat kereta bawak pegi keje mana nak lepas Bro. Tak caya try ngan kete lu tengok, bagus ke tak bagus lu punya decision beli kereta lu pakai sekarang.
Please try and hit a 2-feet high kerb with a Vios, Golf or an Altis at 120km/h. If they do not suffer any damage, then you’re entitled to say that the Preve is not robust. Only idiots will think that Protons are the only car that can get damaged when hitting an obstacle at 120km/h.
How do you know the kerb is 2 feet high and the pervertei was 120km/h???
I thought this pervertee hit a 2 inch bump at 60km/h and lost control just like that.
Don’t Believe??
Then DRIVE IT TO BELIEVE IT, HAHAHA!
these folks never see any accident before la mate.. sometimes u just wonder how the car end up like that.. but for this P1 hit a kerb with 120km/h, i will give a high rate for the car.. and for the SA for testing the car.. he3.. better carefull la bro (SA) next time..
My friend Myvi hit the divider at 60km/h, no damage to the bumper, but the suspension is badly damage. So what do you expect?
Actually, my relative who drove a Vios also hit a road divider or to be more specific, a concrete island at a junction. He was not going fast, as he was going to turn left, less than 40 km/h.
As he wanted to turn left, a car from the left so he swerve right and his Vios ran over the concrete island. In that short process, the island concrete hit the Engine, Gearbox and also severely damaged the car lower chasis.
Insurance assessed the damage and repairs was more than RM40K+. So, he got a new Car after some minor top-up
Give a try to hit your current driving car to the divider and see if nothing happens to your car. Then start giving ngetive rating to Proton… No matter the car brands, every car will have impact in such accidents, unless as said by Mat Min Bucik (tank)..
If you want your car no damage, then i suggest you get a kereta kebal or a lorry. There no such thing as no damage when you go through that kind of accident.
Let me know which car can hit a divider and does not need to visit the workshop.
cant believe that lower arm was fragile than tyre and rim
tyre are made from elastic material such as rubber, it is flexible dude, ask your son who ride fixie bicycle every morning, even he knows better than you
Well said, this is the one comment i’m looking for.
Someone might say it hit the Lower Arm only, that’s why Rim is safe, you try drive a Golf or Vios and hit the lower arm and see, it will be the same. – Never ending story.
Is proton getting better? Ask yourself.
surprisingly the rim is quite strong. hit the curb, but no crack or damage. and standard sedan ground clearance should be around 15cm..so the bumper should be crack or severely damage at that speed. ;)
The pic doesn’t give enough evidences for us to look at.
It looks like the wheel is tougher than the lower arm…
A highway curb is around 10~12 cm thick (I guess..)
and hitting it at 120kmh while taking a corner — sure melambung one to the other side!
Proton should give answer/full description on this matter!
If not, lagi org benci ler…
It hit an invincible curb
http://catchmypicture.com/8dpNph.jpg
example of car hitting divider at 70km/h
The sad part about this whole story is that if this hadn’t been a Proton, mechanical or part failure as a theory wouldn’t have occurred in the minds of most of the people sharing this image. Even when they’re connected to the best of modern-day technology, people can be astonishingly backwards.
Yeah.. a lot of comments with dramatic, controversial words, shouting for readers’ attention only…seem like no research at all before comment
It’s a car, not a super tank ! Let’s be realistic
that driver was so stupid!!..bawak laju2..patut kena saman leh..
that road (jalan sentul heading to jalan pahang) is a place that is hard to achieve 80kph, what more 120kph.
what we can see here is preve has poor control, good crumple zone but then again if at such a low speed the will crumple beyond drive means huge business for accident workshops
but the sales advisor should be sack for
1. carelessness while performing duty
2. causing bad image to proton worldwide.
Agreed with you with the speed, that road is my daily commute. I missed the action ciss!!!
It’s an exit road from DUKE (before Sentul Toll) with a crest (u cant see anything beyond the incline) with traffic light about 50 meters on the right side and a very tight corner on the left. This SA is a moron and a douche to drive 120km/h thru it. He deserved it. Soo much for defensive driving ptuihh!!!
Seperti paul tan cakap, mungkin driver tak biasa dgn torque cfe…shit happens
Walau eh. If their own people also not familiar then what about laymen like us?
That little torque also can’t handle?
Human cannot handle or pulotong cannot handle?
Please la, those UNCLE & AUNTY driving huge torque imported car also can handle their car.
This kacang putih pulotong torque… Analyze with some common sense la.
Oh yeah right, ALL uncle & auntie in Malaysia here drove huge torque imported car. None single of them driving local’s. Damn, I totally forgot about that. Thank god common sense expert is here to remind me.
alaaaaa…anyone who drive turbo car will drive a bit crazy including me, no doubt
Get a proper sales advisor, this kind of ppl will give negative image to the company. The car is for testing not for anyone to crash it.
Turbo or not, they should be professional enough to take care of the car.
I agree. Sales people behind this incident suppose to remind the driver about the cfe’s torque constantly.
Ouch.. Prepare to be bashed P1!
But in my opinion, it’s not the car’s fault.
Maybe the sales advisor tought the CFE got the same behaviour like iafm engine.
Or maybe he’s driving like hell to test the engine.
Shit happens anyway.
Drive safely please. Get rid of the mindset ” now i drive proton cfe turbo, i wanna smoke every car on the road especially those T and H”. Preve is comfortable, got decent acceleration. Just enjoy the ride.
If u like to cucuk2 others, then better buy Skyline or Impreza. Can’t afford it? Buy satria gti and convert engine to evo iii. Then u can drive like hell.. Better still, go to hell terus!
I tip my hat to you sir!
Sadly, most of these new preve will be doing just that, just to preve their car is king of them all. That is if they can get the car loan.
It hit a divider and still came out well. The body held it’s shape the car only broke it’s arm. Overall a good, impressive outcome. I say good job in this at least.
at what speed bro?
wht kind of car u using?…
normal car only survive 100kmh direct impact u know?
Why didn’t haters bash the Myvi when its rear wheel hub was prone to breaking under high lateral stress, resulting in the wheels being ripped off the cars when Myvi-driving boy racers try to do handbrake turns at high speeds for “FWD drift”?? Pictures of modified Myvis with ripped off rear wheels at drift events even show up in local car magazines.
Becoz Perodua were never given billions of taxpayer $ todo R&D like Proton… this is what everyone fail to get…
because we like myvi. it’s people’s car… which is has more reliability than any proton models ever have.
That’s the mindset of some people when comes to Proton.
“Anything which is attached to Proton, is bad. ”
With or without the news from facebook, i will see the car for myself in the showroom today.
Accident happens everyday and it’s never something like accident-free car…
120km it should of rolled or spun, even greater impact to the body. Front pictures shows the front is unscathed, minimal damage to the side. Impossible for a 120km Crash.
Imagine the momentum the car has at that speed… and not rolled over while taking corner?
It has ESC remember.. it’ll counter the moment of the car by pivoting on necessary tyre.
Precisely, no way this is a 120 km/h crash.
You think ESC can help you in any condition?
Goes to show how stable and reliable the Preve is. If you think that its lower arm broke after hitting a pothole or that it hit a kerb at a low speed, shouldn’t lower-end Proton vehicles like Persona and Saga have broken lower arms all over our roads all the time??
wait….which part of the post mentioned 120 km/h? if 120km/h sure total lost bro,at most i would say 60~80 km/h would be a reasonable estimate
it should be in that range when braking is factored.
biasa maaa, kasi pusing laa. mana boleh mengaku salah :)
why is the sales assistant drive the test car? i thought test car is for customers to test drive it? is the sales assistant received a summons for reckless driving?
I’m an ex car salesman, sometimes salesman drive the test car because is part of his job, like refuelling the car, send for service, send the car where there is a booth to promote to customer and it’s also use as ordinary company car.
one thing we have in car called brake…!!!!
crashed my 2010 accord into the divider at 90 kph, my wheel also bengkok. So what say you guys? This is what I call typical Malaysian mentality. When a foreign make crash and etc, no one say anything. But when a proton or Perodua broke down or something, everyone start bashing. Grow up la people. Stop comment on things blindly
isnt it obvious..90km wheel sudah bengkok.. this preve 120km no damage to tires or front bumpers, minimal damage to the side. Doesnt it sound so fishy
No it doesn’t sound fishy, because the situations are different. Do you know what angle the car hit the divider? Do you know how much speed has been shed off when the SA hit the brakes? Do you know how high the divider or the kerb was?
Nobody knows anything but everyone’s bashing.
If you didn’t see it with your own eyes or hear it with your own ears, don’t invent it with your small mind and share it with your big mouth.
People dont like to think deep bro… if these people go to court sure lose
Easy.. Just show the picture where this car hit..
If this car hit the divider at 120km/h should damage front bumper and side shirting right? In picture both parts also in good condition..
Why??
Same as you, don’t know everything but just make your own assumption by believing what they said.
For me, the picture doesn’t puzzle as what Proton claim.
Why? You cannot believe and accept this car is better than accord…..oh my god.
Don’t get me wrong, I’m not a Proton nor Perodua supporter… I just hate our local people being such a bully against our own local product… Just please be logic and relevant whenever we post things on FB, Twitter, or what ever social networking sites you’re using..
Thanks to the sales advisor for testing this car to the limit. Hehe…
This is not a marauder everyone.
I test this car to the maximum last day, and i understand term and condition apply.. haha nice soft turbo and many thanks to Proton sales advisor.
Why we need to always defend this carmaker? Its a company, guys. It will suck your money nonetheless. They dont care what people think as long as they can make profit. Proton and inferior qualities cannot be separated, just live with it.
are u the new “ayah pin”?
yeah proton did wrong and did make low quality products and have non visionary person leading it before, but proton does had come a long for to become what it is today. if givin the good support with a good critic to improve all the negative stuff they sure can do better rather than making mindless bash critics.
I don’t get it, did you mention how many years to go is the improvement will get improved? And how many years you been support Proton, i meant practical and not just talking.
I know why…… yang positif tu P1 salesman hehehehehe…. komisyen bro…
Its not about defend.. its about give praise & critic when its due..
Look like the ball joint came off from lower arm rather than accident.
Ball joints don’t simply come off. If it did, it won’t pop off the lower arm because there’s the weight of the front end bearing down on it. It will only come off if the car is jacked up.
But in the event of a hard impact, it is possible for the front hub’s knuckle to fracture and break. Or, the ball joint pin to snap. These are not indestructible materials, people. They do have their mechanical limits.
If you can prove that only Proton’s ball joint or knuckle can break from hard impacts and not other manufacturers’, please do so.
The preve’s front suspension is carried over from Exora. No issues on exora.
The wheel did not deform due to the material used AlSI7Mg which is heat treated This alloy has a very high uts if compared to other untreated alloy wheels.
The good thind is that nothing broke off. Cars suspension are designed to deform under missused condition. If you know about fracture mechanics, ull understand this. In this case it was a curb strike at 120km/h. If there was a detachment on the suspension, the outcome of the accident would have been more severe.
this is another example of despite how good technology is (read: assuming it’s CFE model, the car has ESC with traction control, ABS, EBD etc.), there’s always a limit.
be careful, be safe guys..
Even no scrath to the paint… wheel shaft broke bt car ntg happen. smell fishy.
where’s the fish?
Malaysian are not stupid buying myvi at persona price because they clever enough to judge the after sales and maintenance. Don’t deny it, buy it to believe it. :P
bro..i agree with you..i will stick to Perodua cause i think their quality is better… I owned one SAGA..and it brings nothing but trouble..i am not bashing Proton.. just that they dont fix my problem, and their attitude sucks sometimes.
Lol i had the same Problem with you but with Perodua… My sister’s myvi had a major leak on the first year of ownership, the minute we brought it to the service center, all they said was they dunno what’s the problem!@@##$$%^… So we brought it to some ah beng shop outside and they fixed it!!! Another time was with my Viva, i just had it service after 10k and i felt that the car was super sluggish after service.. One night when i was at the traffic light, i see smoke coming out of my engine bonnet!!!@##$$… And when i opened the engine bonnet, i see oil splashed out of the engine and was leaking on the floor… Brought it to perodua service center and they dunno what happen!!!! padahal i asked my friend who’s a mechanic, he said that they overfilled my engine oil… I will not go for another Perodua… Lagi best? it feels like my gf’s Getz lagi best…
My only question is, why the air bag not deployed. The stealing wheel appears to be in good condition. 120km/h wo….
Looks like you don’t know how airbags work and what deceleration sensors do.
airbag works on frontal collision i think!!
Dear bros… Judging the tone, I think Kiki is only asking a question… u don need to hammer him/her that much…. Just tell la… *sigh*
i’m not p1 or p2 basher or any other manufacturers, just looking for stupid comments, and i found urs. CONGRATS!
the sensor uses the speed of impact as opposed to travelling speed. those are 2 different values after taking into account of many factors such as braking force, crumple zone, tyre pressure, etc. and we don’t know that is this case.
so many things are involved in an accident. if we don’t perform in a controlled environment, the chances of having an exactly same case is extremely rare.
Airbag does not deploy if condition does not meet…read ur car manual regarding airbag deploying mechanism
“The stealing wheel appears to be in good condition.”
Stealing wheel? To be used when someone want to steal the car?
I LOLed at your question, kind sir…
the car does not look like it hit a divider to me.. especially if you look at the other photo.. you can’t find any hint of an accident just happened from the surroundings
but i do hope proton’s story is true.. else there’s going to be more serious accidents when preve start getting on our roads
Please la, kenapa perlu compare dan babitkan kereta lain bila berlaku bende2 macam ni. Just admit n solve the problem. No need to blame or involve other brand. They got nothing to do with your faulty.
Bgkan je surat tunjuk sbb kat mamat ni.sengal.gopoh sgt
bg la skali police report.. kn senang ckp kete nie eksiden.. pastu kon4m dorg x caye lg.. he3..
Not sure what divider the salesman hit though. I passed by the place when the Preve was being uploaded onto a tow truck. It was at the DUKE exit towards Jalan Gombak (coming from MRR II). Only saw a couple broken of those collapsible pole thingy behind the car. (dunno what’s that called). :)
Langgar tiang letriklah ni> sure laju dan terbabas ni….
The real tragedy here is how ugly the Preve looks in person.
The Preve reminds me of the movie “Back To The Future”, because this car looks like it came from the 90’s.
Since this is a global car, why no EURONCAP test yet?
NCAP will pick any car from the market, not sent by the manufacturer. And we don’t have any NCAP regulation in Malaysia, just yet.
Wait till it goes to Australia, then we can judge from AusNCAP.
at least proton have test their product by hitting divider at 120km/p(in reality and not doing laboratory )… can Toyota, Honda,BMW, Ferrari, Mercedes, Lamborghini, Mazda, Ford and Volkswagen doing the same thing and get the better result?? prove it first after that u can bash Proton…………..
LOL, Now what I told you guys before Preve is nothing…
Why you guys bashing Ford Fiesta without any hard evidence and worshipping Preve.
So if you guys want the best safety please don’t buy Preve, Vios, City, or even Forte.
Get Fiesta with 7 airbags NOW! Btw I’m not Fiesta salesman but I’m the owner of Fiesta
Good luck and drive safely the owner of Fiesta.
Takyah kata apa2…..tungu je bila org pakai nantisapa yg kena……..i dont think its an accident….pls la dont rely or compare with other brand….it just a proton only
even this accident could be viral to spread the popularity of Preve.
after all people who are smart enough to understand this accident would google Preve more than before and be less sceptical
Sack him off as he has made very bad impression towards preve..
who is that sales advisor? its all your fault for all this mess.
proton quality really sucks!!!!! pay much money for tis kind bad car!!…FUCK man!! Just go for imported car la Malaysian!!!
you can get lost from malaysia also………
wow hit the divider can snap till like that? im not confident in preve anymore… bad luck for proton
I believe, proton will not release a new car in such frigile condition. Otherwise, it should have fail during testing phase.
On the oither hand, proton also has demostrated a different level of maturity in handling the publicity. The adoption of social network to reengage and spread the right info to the right group of people. Nice move.
In anyway, for what had happened, time will prove a product.
The same thing happened to a new Proton Saga right in front of my house as it was just slowly going over a small hump. I would believe that the quality needs to be looked into…
Agreed.. SAGA need to do some serious checking…my SAGA is a real “LEMON” in and out of the workshop… basically they changed every electronics and parts of my car and it is still crap….
Hahaha, Drive to Believe! This is Proton la, what do you expect?
It break and crash this is normal, if not then people got good skill or lucky only.
Proton is for those blindly supporters, go ahead a buy, nobody can stop you.
We will stay here and see another story, hahaha.
This kind of accident always seen in Proton Tiara, old Saga and Wira as well.. Proton ah Proton how to prove yourself with your lousy QC and R&D? See what Audi did when they R&D their car.. To prove yourself u must learn first!
even skyline gtr r35 reported crush at malaysia…1st in the world…
lower arm tu perkara biasa lah. kalau tak accident pun boleh tercabut sb wear&tear.lg pun berapa sen sj harga lower arm tu.siapa yg tak nak beli proton, jangan beli. habis cerita-pi beli kreta harga 300k keatas ( kalau mampu lah.rasa aku bashers2 ni miskin).hari tu kat jepun sekumpulan kereta2 mewah berlanggar … berkecai guga.
cepatnya preve wear & tear??
proton nak buat duit jual spare parts lak ke?
Recall time.. Just few days lunch, 1st preve crash pic.
hit at 120km/h? either the driver got lousy skill or the car not stable enough? by the way, Loneranger talk about Diana, maybe he don know wat speed the car was and under wat situation and how many years ago??
Preve only use 2 years to develop the whole car compare with other car makers which are using at least 3 years. i don know wat Proton want to prove…mayb they want to show to the world they can waste lots of money and make a failure car with a shorter lead time… compare with their previous model…
anyway, take my advise… DON BUY PREVE!!!! u will regret….
Dei macha, WHO are YOU to take your advice?
Don’t DRINK and WRITE la ok?
Typical “take my advice, take my advice” hahaha
my point is no matter in what type of car u r in, if u dun drive safely, accidents happens.
or r u telling that theres no accident at all in Germany, Uk, US etc? even accidents happen also, no one ever died in car accident in those countries?
If we Msian are given tankers also to drive, there will still be death on teh road coz of our own ATTITUDE. we are too arrogant when driving. we care about nothing when the steering wheel is right in our hand.
so, get my facts right b4 u want to tembak me.
Everyday, many protons and peroduas get into accidents, so why is Proton so particularly concerned about this car?
I test drove this car the other day.I still felt the car was a bit sluggish off the traffic light,somewhat similar to what you get when u drive the Saga 1.3,but once the Turbo is kicks in at higher rpm its ok.But its kinda annoyingly slow off the traffic light.The handling is good,and the interior noise level is not as good i can hear the engine roaring and the turbo at low speeds.I also felt some kick back from the brake pedal when i brake. Anyone with similar experience?I think the low torque problem with Campro engine is still there also it has been marginally improved.Overall i think the car is good value for money..but the campro engine lets it down.
To answer your first question, I experienced the same sluggish feeling when I met the first traffic light. And things got going at 2K rpm, as expected.
To further answer your question, I have to ask a question; what is your expectation? May I know what you’re driving now? I drive a Sylphy. I was quite annoyed at first when the SA said I could not disengage the SAT to compare the refinement of the package. He said it must be done with another key that is left at the office and the test drive car is locked that way to give that conventional automatic to potential customer.
But the SA let me test the car until I’m satisfied. I found the answer for you. You must accept that this car has only 1.6 litre displacement. And the turbo only kicks in at 2K rpm. Before that, the car does NOT behave like a 2 litre car YET. And the engine is not a free-revving unit (anyway, still new, still tight).
If you want to extract the performance, that’s what the paddle shift is for. At the traffic light, regulate the gas pedal around 2K rpm (pedal to the metal if you have a heavy foot). And drive like a manual (don’t drive like a maniac).
I wish there was a non-CFE model to test, but I think I’ve found the answer as well. It would be sluggish just like the CFE before 2K rpm. It won’t be as fun. Yes, the Campro is a letdown. Unless you have the RM73K for the CFE, might as well find another alternative (you won’t). I think it’s a trade-off la. We can’t have an engine that Proton doesn’t have yet, sourcing from others would be expensive and pointless.
Don’t have the money? Just find another hobby for the fun you’re looking for. Else just drive safely with whatever car you can afford bro.
that is why supercharger is the better solution. turbo not bad for gain but supercharger cures as early as 1k rpm
It is called turbo lag, live with it. As proton will say, it’s like that lah!
Explaination by protong is fishy… 120km/h, broke d arm and yet tire did not burst… something not right…
where’s the fish again?
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2315001
Look at d 2nd pic… rim and tyre still in good condition…
120km/h hitting kerb till arm broke yet tyre n rim still looks gud… tats d fish…
Something tells me, we will be seeing more accidents involving the Preve. Simply because of the mentality of some here thinking the Preve with soft turbo is like an Evo and wanting to smoke other makes just to prove a point. Utter stupidity and low level mentality. Can this be due to inferiority complex? Why need to drive so hard just to prove the Preve is better than Korean or Japanese makes? Just leave it. Even if the Preve manages to outrun another make at the traffic light… may not necessarily tempt someone who owns another more expensive make to change brands. so just let it be and drive civilized. the more such stunts Preve owners start to pull, they are just going to make a fool of themselves…like this guy in the red test car.
This kind of foolishness is not limited to Preve test drivers, but across the whole range of spectrum called cars. Maybe it’s my pet peeve, but I found many Vios, MyVi and Avanza drivers with that kind of attitude. This is due to (probably) superiority complex driving the pseudo-T branded Milo tin cars. I won’t deny the power-to-weight ratio of these Milo tins, but just because you have a right foot doesn’t mean that others don’t.
Don’t tempt others for a race la. When they won’t bother to entertain you doesn’t mean they can’t. Just with a drop of the overdrive button I can smoke all of you back to oblivion, but I want to return home to my family, safely. Let us all die of old age.
can see a trend already… turbo engine = fast & furious wannabes..lots of drag races along redlight junctions and highways
Haha reminds me of what Capt America asked Ironman…
Poor Driver, Give You A Good Car, What Makes You?
Still A Poor Driver :P
Good driver, give a lousy car. What does it mean?
Still a lousy car.
in f1, good car makes you a WORLD CHAMPION!
The problem is the sales advisor is lousy , if the turbo is so powerful others ppls not need to buy sport car , buy PROTON PREVE wil do. Don try to give such excuses , consumer is
Clever !!!
I tested this car 2 days ago.. and managed to drive it quite a while since the SA is my good friend.. I would say that you need to keep in your mind that you are driving a CFE engine.. it is so powerful… but make lot of noise.. it reminds me of my 2005 Gen 2 :(.. Other than that.. thumbs up for Proton! and please control your build quality laa.. the test drive unit that i drove had some issues and need to be sent back (not sure what issue)
Whatever whoever say anything,
AVOID PREVE AT ALL COST !
75k for a middle income earner is not easy to make. No point risk the hard earn money by dumping in something you unsure about the quality!
who gives a thumb down here?? i think it is the truth… i agree with you.. RM75K is not easy to earn… we should be good quality car for wat we paid no matter how much it cost… RM75K means we should get peanut??? Average income per household is not much in Malaysia right?? It is wrong for all Malaysian to Pay HIGH premium to buy cars… just for the sake of protection…
agreed enough.for lower incomers,there are too tiny weeny option buying a car
at good & reasonable price considering maintainence & cost of living
proton should know their customers
not being a competitor price for kia or toyota or honda
the cheap one shall not be known a low quality product
made in malaysia must be affordable one
u can only say that if u r the 1 that gave the ppl their money…. if not, just shut up
BNM already doing that by giving guidelines that prevent people from driving cars they cannot afford!
Also, power is nothing with control, or at least decent driving skill…
wah…. like this also can.
i drive that stretch road often… like others said, what dividers are there? off ramp highway?? bullshit la…. proton bad quality…
dont believe, just go buy one la.
you know its really stupid our whole automotive industry, because of proton, govt has to naik hargam but car makers like T & H etc.. dont care coz they still can sell well… because they know proton is crap. so they just price whatever they please.
and proton… well, its proton la… IF THE MALAYSIA PEOPLE DONT SUPPORT PROTON, then how can proton compete in EUROPE? where college students usually have 2nd hand mini as their first car..
just let proton die, everyone will be happy.
I think Donkey Kong is “komisyen”tly related to the P1… hehehehe jangan marah nanti cepat tua…
I told you so… memang macam tu, beb.
kalo kena mende2 melibatkan malaysia jer..serta merta Private Investigator akan muncul..tumbuh bak cendawan…
ni baru berdasarkan gambar jer…mcm2 spekulasi dh kuar…tu belum ada kat tempat kejadian lagi tu….
kenapa itu tak function?…kenapa surrounding dia mcm itu..mcm ini…kenapa tayar kanan bengkok…kenapa bahagian ni tak kemek….bijak rakyat malaysia ni……kan bagus p tolong abang2 polis setelkan kes2 jenayah tuh..kes penculikan kanak2 ker..pembunuhan ker..gunakan mindset yg sama..pemikiran detektif ni…ish2..bijak tak bertempat…ni belom lagi pakar2 ekonomi malaysia masuk ni….adooiii…kamon…
Setuju sangat.. Mentaliti orang mcm2 ni yg buat negara lingkup… Tak tau cerita ujung pangkal dah komen macam2..
supot lah buatan M’sia kejadian brlaku nie biasa la benda nk jd siapalah yg tau…
tau nak kondem ja mcm mana M’sia nak Maju…
habislah preve..
All I can say is that Proton put really good rims on the Preve. Divider hit at speed and they come out unscathed. Good to see the quality is improving.
this car already failed!
Rather buy Myvi 1.5
U will die in myvi coz no 4 aibag n no rear disc..
Tin milo body
Nowadays rakyat prefer preve , korean cars n conti cars
No more jepun celup
Prrfthhh
another jepan wannabe? lol
LOL
This car is a huge fail!
Thumbs up if you think better to buy myvi 1.5
Already cancelled my booking.
Going to perodua showroom like… now.
Then good luck with your Myvi 1.5. I would advice that you should book the yellow one. Easy to spot just in case if you got into bushes or got into the drain given the sub 10 seconds 0-100 performace that you just got as excited as this prevé cfe driver, but forgetting that the car is just a Myvi.
if ltr on thr are photos of myvi wif broken arm after accidents or sumthg else…u want to cancel the booking of myvi too?? hahah
I think paul shared already. The rear one broke just like that. Wait let me see…
Ha here it is:
http://paultan.org/2006/02/18/perodua-myvi-rear-axle-snapped/
The suspension saw the curb/divider (not even hit them), already surrender.
*sorry guys just cant help it ;p
Hmmm, I also want to cancel everything that I booked including my sofa and the pokok bunga from the nursery , as my intention is to book Myvi.You know why Kelly? Because I want to be as clever as you.Saw 1 accident , that has nothing to do with you , already cancelled.
Errrr, you really place a booking? How long will it takes for the booking payment to be returned? I want to place more money for the Myvi , especially for the yellow super duper sunflower special not so limited but will be limited later edition.Come! let’s help P2 to increase their sales!
cayalah enjin cfe ni. tekan sikit boleh terbang. letak sayap confirm ke bulan….
terbang itu memang terbang, tepi pastikan engine itu boleh kekal lama, jangan setengah jalan mati pula enginenya.
Banyak factors causing this thing. Jangan cepat melalut. Inilah Malaysian. Suka buat conclusion sendiri, cepat menuduh, suka point fingers, lari dari masalah instead of solving that problem, suka condemn things, jarang bersyukur.
Some of the PROBABLE CAUSING FACTORS namely:
(1) It’s a normal Joe who drives that car, who was test-driving that car, not the SA himself, but Proton didn’t wanna say the car was on test-driving session.
(2) That normal Joe may be just an average driver who is not competent to handle high-speed driving, high-speed cornering while car is equipped with extra power & torque and extra controls such as shift-tronic, paddle shifters and CVT own characteristic such as revving up while downshifting gear.
(3) The centrifugal force that is reacted onto the arm, trailing arm, lower arm, vertical arm, tie rod & absorber/tower assembly must be taken into account in order to know at what point exactly the assembly got broken.
(4) Having said all the above, studies must be made by Proton to make sure how sturdy the parts are. Material used, durability, strength and bendability of those arms. Arms are made in Japan, Malaysia, Taiwan & China. From my experience, Japan made the best parts. Followed by Taiwan, M’sia & last China.
(5) Revise those parts quality. If you (Proton) need to do recall, please recall. This is a good incident to improve Proton for unknown facts, before it’s too late. If Proton needs to redesign the whole thing, please do so. Average uncles, aunties, kakak who already ‘considering’ this car might change their mind after being wrongly-informed by competitiors SA (Fiesta, Forte, Vios, bashers, anti-Proton) and they believe it. Scientific explanations are needed.
(6) While me myself have high confidence in this car, this incident is a bit putting my ‘doubt’ level few marks higher.
(7) Simple logics behind: If my previous Nissan & present Honda are using parts from Japan, which are firm, solid & durable – but Proton is a Malaysian-made car – so Japan is not making parts for Proton, are they? This can come to a conclusion that Proton has to, use Malaysian-made parts which are 3rd grade? Correct me if I’m wrong.
Just launch new Global Car you ask Proton to recall the Car.
Preve Also not deliver to Customer yet you want to recall.
You want Proton to follow other car makers to take advantage of bad publicity to get famous. Sure suicidal!
being suicidal for the company is better than being suicidal to the lives of the customer…. it is the responsibility that counts… agree with burung do study first.. and then decide whether hav to call back or not…
If hit the divider and break the lower arm of the front right corner with minimal damage to front fender, could it be the preve turbo suffers from torque steer?
Looks like it hit a kerb. If it hit a divider sure will be scratches all over the body panels.
I used to live near a nice spot in Penang where tow truck tontos used to wait during rush hour and post-party hours. Suffice to say, I’ve seen my share of interesting outcomes from accidents.
This one looks like it could have hit a curb or clipped a median.
A road median usually has broader base before tapering in for about 1.5 feet, then going straight up for another 1.5 feet. The car could have clipped the median, sending at least 2 wheels airborne and hence the broken arm upon landing. Of course, the damage to the vehicle depends on the angle of approach and the speed.
Have you guys noticed you only sometimes see trye marks on road medians but not much scratch marks? These are usually made SUVs because of their higher clearance.
I’ve seen an SUV go 3 wheels off the ground at just 50kmh after clipping a median. Some even turned turtle.
As for a curb impact, I have to say that I’ve only seen this kind of damage on rear wheels where the driver probably lost the back during a fast corner, sending the rear skidding into the curb.
FYI, I’m a BMW owner currently but my first two cars were Protons. Both makes have their own problems and I’ve been called an idiot for buying both makes by two different sets of people (mix of relatives and friends). In the end, it’s up to you. If you like the design, can live with the setbacks and most importantly – you can afford it, then buy it.
Spot on Sir.
Well said.
I’ve been inside an X6 that stalled and refused to reignite at the traffic light. What does this mean then ? Driver do not know how to drive the car ? Hahahahaha. Come on people. Any brands and makes and models are always subjected to faulty bloopers. Not only Protons.
Did you service your car or not?
“We think Proton Edar has used its social media channel effectively in this case – rather than try to bury the story it has come out to try to explain what actually happened”
Do they have a choice? Photos are everywhere.
still too expensive compared to foreign cars…:(
So much for a global car… godspeed perverts! :)
It means Proton quality still sucks, no need to put a name on it to “prove it”.
i have own 3 proton, and non have given me any problems. have you driven one?
LOL..once u have driven BMW..u would skip this shit
their price n catagories same?? lolzzz
now… i own a bmw and honda!
after long, a car is just a car.
burn… u got so many car… my family also own eight Proton cars since 1997 (oldest 1 is Proton Wira 1.3)… still can get us to travel the whole Peninsular…
before Proton, my father used to own VW Beetle, Volvo, Mazda and Beemer… but maybe too bored driving the conti car… choose Proton lar after dat…
mine just an old junk!
mah dad still own the first saga, and he still luv the car till now, even after offering him my bmw and honda. can’t say much, old timer knows the value of money… a car is still a car!
a person can reach one place in an hour, yet, i still reach there after 2 hour,! slow and steady as oldtimer use to say.
after long, i feel no different driving any car models. as long as dia tak buat hal, is good enough for me. my favorite car model is ford!
I think this is the new “facelift” model…hehe looks more sporty now…
Mmm…rarely come across broken lower arms these days unlike the Mini Minor in the fifties when it was a familiar sight. I find it difficult to accept the explanation provided by Proton i.e. for a lower arm to break after hitting a divider in these days of technology used in the manufacturing process? I believe it could be due to production issues. If this happens in the States, I am sure a thorough investigation would be carried out.
Proton has done well with the Preve. I hope they will take pro-active approach to. investigate the actual cause and make their findings available to the car buying public.
Ongtk , i believe you got wrong understanding of physics. The things is moving high speed, full of momentum. When it hit the divider, the car might got tossed to air a bit. by sheer power of the car weight and speed momentum it carry, this definitely broke even a M1 Abrams tank wheel too.
Now please experiment this with your car. try ram any divider or bumper in 120km and see how high you car fly.
If not, get an RC helicopter or rc car, you will learned that any accident caused a lot damage variations.
CFE unit? So got abs, ebd n esp rite? All not functioning? Curious is no scratch?
thought if was the same car i saw yesterday at pj state since it was the same color. yesterday noon, terasa i nampak test drive preve got stalled along the way there. whatever it is, luck depend on you. a friend new persona mati tengah highway cause of electronic malfunction.
Good Job Proton.. Good Job
Same thing happened to my toyota corolla years ago when i hit a kerb at a corner.. And it was only at about 70kmh.. No damage to the bodywork…The car was about 10 year old at the time…
U all sure it’s a 120km/h accident?? I wonder if the driver can remember it when it happened?? More like a cover up story. If that car hit a kerb at 120km/h with one front wheel….sure the car had turned turtle already. The driver must be very good bcos in that short period when his right front wheel hit the kerb at 120km/h, he/she managed to stir it to avoid turn turtle & broke the back wheel too.
More like a 60km/h accident :P
From the picture, there no damage to the front or side of the car.. there’s no body damage to the car apart from the side bumber caused by the wheel… it looks like the drive shaft just broke by itself…
oh…SA is manual driver….
Find it hard to believe a car traveling at 120km hit a divider and front part of bumper still look good, tyred and rim no damage at all, then the drive shaft break only.
Got to really:
Drive it to believe it…..
Let us cut the “Bull Shit” here. Why don’t we all go over to the showroom and test the Preve out. Since it is still technically not yours, put some endurance and other test on it. Let the salesperson “faint” lah. However beware, most likely insurance won’t cover for your for reckless driving. Now I bet Proton will not let anyone to test drive the car. Check out the welding. very very poor. Like kereta “potong” only. Get it?
“Perhaps the sales advisor was too enthusiastic about the new turbo engine’s torque.”
“Give yourself some time to get acquainted with the car, which is especially hard to do if it’s a test drive unit – there’s definitely not enough time to learn the car’s full behaviour!”
dear golf gti, y u no like this? ur TURBO no good laaa! this car is better, can fRy ah!
With more power comes great responsibilty…both man & machine(u know what I mean)
R the majority of our drivers ready for it? Cheap mass turbo+mass Msian driver= national disaster…
The problem with Proton is not the car but the customer service. My Dad had an old Saga that still works. But try dealing with Proton service people, they screw off their own car. My Dad rather go to other service center than those appointed by Proton.
bawak keta macam lahanat,kereta kebal pun boleh jahanam, then say..owhhh i go for volkswagen laa,i go for camry la worth it laaa, value for money laaa,blahaaa laa lu
i oso hit curb on my satria(convert to mivec ) at speed 100km ++ but oni rim bent+tyre sidewall swollen . shock ,tie-rod and lower arm still in good condition.
from pic, i can see rim and tyre in gd condition …wonder is the rim quality is so good?
Proton is invincible and will conquer the globe like Alexander the great greek! At least that is what some people here will beat your head in so you believe.
You meant all car accident that hit curb must suffer the same damage?????????
i means good quality cars. .for those poor quality, i not sure wat will patah lah. wakakakkaaka
Preve will be the most affordable turbocharged car in the country. I’m sure many will be buying it. So my piece of advice here is please drive responsibly and sensibly. No need to “smoke” other cars just to prove a point (because Preve mean to prove aye?)
Hit @120km/h.. The rums still intact
Going to proton showroom now gonna book white one..
Proven preve is global car indeed
I told u now ppl taste changed to preve ,korean n conti
No more jepun car or wannabe car
proton, here’s i think what you should do:
1. make a very detailed explanation of the incident
2. get the personnel involved to come out and tell how it happened
3. make an analysis of the crash
4. mention the car safety qualities – how the car only suffer minor damages despite what happened
voila, a disaster turned out to be marketing campaign.
i just test drived preve just now…
campro 1.6 CPS 120km/h @ 3200rpm
campro 1.6 CFE 120km/h @ 2400rpm
my complain- just slightly poor finishing in the interior part..else is significantly improved from previous proton models
cheers!
Looks like now everybody test driving a Preve will try going over a curb. To believe it themselves.
Please loorrr, don’t do that.A lot of people Q.Pity to them.
But like what you say….hahaha
That’ the 205nm torque talking to the front wheels hehe
so is proton gonna get a saman?
they openly admited to going 120kmh
haha
I demand Proton to post a series of detailed investigation of the broken/loose part including material analysis whether manufacturing process/defects cause this @#$%$^#$% on the internet.
say that Proton post it , and it shows that this car have a weakness , do you think we (read: you) can contribute something for them to improve based in your current knowledge capacity?
Demanding this and that are so easy.Commenting are easy too.Because you know what?
CAKAP MEMANG MURAH…..
PREVE
this is new trend.. ppl turn to PREVE, KOREAN, elantra, sonata and conti car..
ppl fed up oredi with toyota n honda 2nd grade ASEAN made
ppl now smart oredi cant simply conned by so called jepun DNA
we love PREVE, KOREAN n CONTI
no more jepun celup car in my garage…dah serik
prrrtfhh
in coming 1-2 month.. will be seeing PREVE with LED OTR
we will see LED everywhere.. and make basher lagi sakit hati.. LED sudah bagi sakit mata
prrrtfhhh
PREVE will be a king of Hiway .. keep at right lane.. vios, avanza, city scare with super bright LED front look of PREVE
Damn childish some of the comments posted here
yup, 140 hp ord wanna conquer highway….wakakakaka
jaguh kampung
torque 205nm, already same with brz, you know?
hp for bragging, torque wins the race
And only a moron would compare BRZ (NA) with Preve (Turbo-Charged) ;)
Mane mane keta kalu accdt pun hancur…cuba la support barangan buatan negara kita…
cuba la support rakyat dengan menghapuskan taxes yang tak berpatutan dan berhenti menindas rakyat.
beli je keta yg lebih murah kan ada utk keperluan seharian.
Mari boikot keta nasional perodua n proton.. Rakyat want jazz n swift at myvi n viva price..
mansuhkan juga;
1) pinjaman PTPTN
2) pinjaman perumahan
3) pinjaman kenderaan
4) pinjaman daripada kawan2.
kerajaan perlu sponsor semua di atas!
mansuhkan juga;
1) pinjaman PTPTN
2) pinjaman perumahan
3) pinjaman kenderaan
4) pinjaman kepada/daripada kawan2.
kerajaan perlu sponsor semua di atas!
Accident happens lahh..
When your are careless, accident happens lahh..
Most car won’t survive this type of car racks! Not even BMW, Merc, Honda or Toyota! But it sure looks ugly anyway in this position and situation.
bullsh*t.
so the lower arm broke but the rims are totally fine…. wait i think even the tyres still got air
hit a kerb.. sure…….
This is the best forensic analysis so far !
So Einstein, care to explain to us what happened to the rear tyre of this Ferrari? – http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/268/ferrari599gtblowerarmbr.jpg/
Good point, I recall in 2009 I was in Sudney and a customer came to showroom very angry that his F 360 Modena is falling apart. What the sales manager of Ferrari SVM in Sydney said? U paid for Ferreri engine and gearbox, the rest you got free so no warranty and don’t complain!!!! Our guys only blame P1, u hit a divider with that turtle MyVi Extreme!!! 1.5 crap and the whole car chops. Pls be realistic.
Web Page Blocked!
owh..no wonder..it’s during office hours..hehe
Preve, you have proved!!! Malaysia boleh!!
it all about driving behaviour…who control the car?the driver or the car control the driver?stupid driver end up like this..shame on you or could be possibly sack out..
If perverteee
If perrverttee handling is so good, then driver won’t lose and hit the curb that easy already la…
Haiya, don’t why pple still blindly support…
Bmw, audi never accident meh?
Kejadian ni bagus sebenarnya kalau tengok dengan minda terbuka. pengguna yang baik akan cari jalan menyelesaikan apa yang kurang. proton akan perbaiki apa yang lemah. kete aku pernah jadi macam ni sebab aku sendiri. aku pakai kete jerman yang logo 0000 bercantum tu.
steady lah bro… aku kenal nko… pakai Audi A4 2.0t quattro b7 s-line lagi…
all about driving attitude..who control the car??the driver or the car control the driver??
too bad for a staff of the company didn’t even show the good reputation of their product but somehow irritating..
Kenape setiap pembeli Kereta mahal tak bising bila Kereta mereka Ada masalah? To bila proton dirt bising mcm Babi hilang tuan Babi….
well. it is explained.:)
from Jalan Sentul to Jalan Pahang can reach 120km/h meh…narrow and busy roads there…also it was at 4.45pm…haizzz…Proton, can u tell us some beter story to believe please…???
Chuck Norris was there!!
Confuse:::
Been wondering, hiting divider cause this? Y the front bumper or side bone look unharmed? If really hit divider side bone or front bumper should be damage.
Perhaps is the Proton QA issue.
The “hit divider” story was actually told by the SA himself, I believe. Proton just write what was told by him.
It looks more like the car hit a curb, not divider.
Weird how it bang divider without damage the front bumper or side bone
i drove a Proton Saga, wet road due to rainy days, my car spin and 1 rim hit the curb, and come back down…
and guess what, my tire pumpchut, my rim bend abit, but that’s it! only change tire and rim..
guess the Protong Saga can tahan better than this “Prey-way!” hahahah
paul & team, it was reported that the max torque for the CFE CVT gearbox is only about 220 nm. The CFE torque max torque is 205 nm at between 2000 – 4000 rpm. This means that the CVT gearbox will be subject to 93% of its max operating limit on a dailly basis. Would subjecting to such high stress shorten the life of the CVT?
To put this in a different prepestive, its like driving V rated tyres with max speed limits of 240 km/h at doing 220 km/h on a regular basis. That is asking for trouble, isn’t it?
Not many pl semed to have noticed this point, or am i being paranoid?
I am no engineer so I can’t be sure of the norms but I assume that when someone defines a “limit”, the part would be designed and tested to be safely used up to 100% of the limit during the expected lifespan of the part. It’s only usage above limit which would pose problems.
Not 222 Nm but 215 Nm gearbox input torque. Which means the gearbox itself can withstand torque up to 215Nm max. So ok la with 205 Nm max torque from engine. No high stress issue or life shorten as long as it is operating within the limit.
Well said advice Paul about not driving test car as though you stole it. I have gone through 1 forum, lowyat, to know enough that there are people out there driving like absoultely a**holes. Seem very common to want to boast about it, cornering sharping, tailgating, and so on. Absoulte j***s.
Grow up people ! Would you drive like that with your mom / dad / son / daughter / wife in the same car ? G**d*** idiots !
guys, is it just me or does the Preve feels quite sluggish starting off? Top marks for ride, handling and space though.
Oi oi oi….. Preve tu yg eksiden sket korang sesama manusia nak gaduh giler2…. Rileks aaaa…. Manade dlm dunia ni model kereta yg x pernah eksiden… Pikir2 le sama… Oh, btw… I have test drive Pray-vay….honestly thumbs up for proton. Did even book one for my wife as the safety features are very convincing. I cant afford a beemer, mercz or veedouble you for my wife but this time….in proton preve i trust… By the way, my first present to her was a Savvy. 5 years running…just need to exchange the coil thingy plus radiator fan motor last year. Now im looking forward to the new preve….is hoping for a good aftersales
so were conned by Savvy, and now going into Pray-Way again?
No one is being conned except you muahahahaha
guys, did anyone fell that the preve is quite sluggish off the line? is this a showroom car problem only? that said however, love the ride, handling and space!!
Honestly, I do not believe anybody who pro proton or against proton. If their is a defect in the design or structurally , more incidents will surface in 1 month or 2. No need to argue. For those who are interested, Hold your purchase and wait for 6 months.
If proton is hiding something, they will kena one day. Siapa yang makan cili dialah yang rasa pedas !
Kemalangan berlaku. Berita terkini juga pun ada, kemalangan melibatkan BMW M5 di Jerman. kedua-dua mangsa cedera teruk. Ia berlaku pada kelajuan 300km/j. Maaf tak tahu bagaimana mahu letak gambar dekat sini.
I had the chance to talk to a Proton sales man who drives the preve for test drive.
According to him this may not be an accident after all.
He claim the car was at about 40kmh doing the turn and suddenly the arm broke and the car stalled upon front right wheel displacement.
However he suspect may be sales guys could have hit a bump or something at high speed in previous rides or prior to the incident, and that could have cracked / damaged the arm. According to him during test drives people like to drive into pot holes and uneven roads just to test the performance ect…not sure which is true but i seem to feel his explanation is more rational than what proton claims. No way you hit a 2 feet high divider without breaking the front bumper in my opinion.
Another piece of junk metal from Protong to con Malaysians. From the pics, must have hit the divider on driver side and only front wheel damaged. It’s 120km/h, hit divider and only front driver wheel damaged. Come on la. I can come with with better bull shit than Protong. There is definitely quality problem with Preve.
Agree with you Bro, looks like it either hit a hump or pothole. Looks like the arm that support the front tyre just give way and resulted in the awkward shape of the right tyre.
A very bad thing Preve is trying to prove.
Haven’t delivered cars to the buyers already accident.
I hope nothing much more bad things will come out again..
No la, truly an accident. Don’t believe? You can go check yourself there. Someone posted the location on Edar facebook comment somemore. Still have scratch marks on the divider and some break mark on the road.
http://maps.google.com.my/maps?q=3.203685%2C101.696397&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hl=en&sa=N&tab=wl
crdt : gastacopz fron lyn forums.
Google Maps does not provide live satellite images. They tend to scan an area once every six months or a year.
Obviously, need to go to the scene. If you are far, go to lyn forum.
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2315001/+1460
gastacopz posted 2 picture for you to see.
proton dont give up…just give me a free preve……and i will be your true supporter hehheh
“Drive it to believe it!” Now you believe?
I’ve hit a divider with my golf gti last year & i still think this preve is better because my gti need to change the whole front undercarriage, new set of front wheels, front bumper, the body need to be straightened a bit, but yet still my brembo kit is in great condition (lol). Just give p1 a chance, u cant just blame them because of their cars like that. Look at what happen to satria neo nowadays that made a lot of achievement until cusco itself sell a rally tuned one in japan. Anyhow, best luck to proton.
satria neo? haha..good engine but cheap quality interior..you spend almost 60-70k just to feel plastic in the interior..just watch review from top gear on satria neo..see it to believe it.
aiyooo drive carefully lah bro next time.the gti is one bloody nice car mannn…:|
after reading all these comments, i believe that DRB Hicom should consider to close down Proton (Y U NO CLOSE DOWN?)
Probably Preve would be their last model. DSZ could be transferred to Prime Minister’s Dept (same like Idris Jala. Govt seems to transfer those high profiled industry people to their cabinet). Meanwhile for the 15k++ of Proton’s staffs, they all would be transferred to DRB’s subsidiaries evenly based on their expertise. Those with engineering background, can go to Hicom Casting, VW Pekan, Honda Melaka. For accounting people, can go to Mualamat. Or probably can do the MLM thingy, side business, catfish business or other thing. Malaysia has tons of working opportunities so i believe it wouldnt be a problem for them to find a new job.
As for R3, they can proceed their business by producing other aftermarket product for other car manufacturer. Can compete with Works Engr, M7, Tomei etc. They have the reputation from their Neo S2000 so i believe they might be doing well.
How about local vendors? naah. nothing to shout about. They still have other incoming projects. Bear in mind, some of the local vendors are capable to produce other foreign car’s parts. So no need to worry about them.
Just let Perodua and Naza continue the national car project and make Malaysian proud. Perodua brings Japanese name (Toyota & Daihatsu) while Naza has Kia and Peugeot genes. Their quality is proven and world class. Hence, it can bring a good impression to the outsiders. No need to rely on Proton anymore.
And the most important thing is, by closing down Proton, hopefully Govt would cut down those lousy taxes. No more afta la, 300% tax la, apa la. Sincerely, i’m not sure whether this can be true or not. But after reading one of the comment that govt will consider to cut the down import taxes for vehicle, why not? Just give a try. Close down Proton. Please govt, listen to your rakyat.
Since then, no more people can complain about local automotive industry. Fair enough for all of us. Then people can afford to buy Vios and City at 40k++ same like Thailand, Indonesia, or perhaps UK. No more posting for Proton on Paul Tan website.
Then Malaysians will be satisfied and live happily ever after while driving cheaper City or Vios.
Indeed.
That’s perfect solution I think..
even if you tried to be a little bit sarcastic, it make sense though.
actually, i brought out the ideas in a sarcastic way. lets just give a try and we will see how good it would be.
i’m one of the proton staff by the way.
are you the one planning to do catfish business? he he he…
Automotive tax is gov source of income. even if gov close proton, why should they remove the tax? quit taking aboiut 300% tax. go google and u will see that proton got almost no protection. those time are over. And who say say proton expensive? they also got taxed the same as the the foreign brand which assemble here
i know about that. but people keep on blaming proton for this automotive tax. the existence of proton making the vehicle tax higher. just read through the comments in paul tan regarding proton.
how pity. if proton were originated from Japan or Germany, i believe the situation would be different.
i know about that. every tax is govt source of income. but people keep on blaming proton for this automotive tax. the existence of proton making the vehicle tax higher. just read through the comments in paul tan regarding proton.
how pity. if proton were originated from Japan or Germany, i believe the situation would be different.
Yes indeed.. you’re talking nonsense.
U call yourself Malaysian? P2 brings a version of Japanese car which is all reject in Japan and only sold in Malaysia bcz ppl like you are here to buy them. What NAZA does? National car by rebadging and putting wheels on used Korean cars and assembling Pugs? Which r only plastic in port and call them local production? Instead of being proud of your own national car even if it is not the best you praising other brands? U know in US if you buy Korean cars you are labels as a loser who can’t buy a Japanese car… No one asking u to buy Preve, go buy the Forte and after 3 years when it is all fall apart look for another rubbish. Very disappointed with u bro.
At least P2 cars are reliable. Parts dont just fall off..door handles don’t just snap. Some of us have experienced all this after years of owning several protons. In the US Korean cars today are receiving rave reviews and are giving the Japanese a run for their money. Hyundai elantra is car of the year. Forte was highly acclaimed and is a true global car. I suppose you don’t read much. Do your homework first. Don’t just blabber.
P2 reliable? you know why? they are all CKD deom Japan, China, Thailand etc.. their local contents are so low. if PROTON use the imported contents and increase the price but give you a quality like European cars will you take it? no, then you start to talk about Taxes which happens to all cars in Malaysia and people blame proton. proton makes cars to be like Mercedes, again people complain about price and re badge. we saw what everyone said when they launched Inspira. I bet if proton change the name people will stop complain. grow up guys…
P2 local parts low? hahahahaha wanna see the list? I have all the list lah bro. And I can assure you the local contents is high.
Why I know? because iam the one who calculate the taxes and doing the price application to the MOF :P
haiyo, abang2 sekalian, x nmpk ke yg En Benzema ni hanya bernada sinis je, he doesnt really meant it, klu sy ni staff proton, sy pun naik bosan dngr semua fitnah dan tohmahan ni semua, penat je kerja tp x dihargai, klu dengan cara menutup syarikat Proton ni je satu2 nya cara utk semua org tutup mulut, apa salahnya…enough is enough, give em chance to move forward!!!
then org complain harga kereta still mahal sbb kerajaan x nak kurangkn tax yg jd income negara selama ni..haih
lol catfish bussiness
Haiya.. That car excident also people want to fight about it.. If you not satisfied then maube you want to test to hit the curb with your own car instead.. Lol
WHAT A SHAME TO WHO IS CONCERN. GIVING JUST GIVING EXCUSES like anak POTONG
Watch out…. This is the sign.. The wise one got it
well bashers gonna bash, haters gonna hate, if you carefully observe the pics above, you will see the front bumpers misaligned a bit, and the left front part also seems to be misaligned too, possibly the accident does happen, not because of some quality issues with the car. Well, so possibly you aspect it to ‘turtled’ well, in my point of view, the car hit the curb/divider, it sort of fly, and landed maybe the front right wheel landed first, which have to absorb the impact more than other tyres and also pressure from the landing.
The pictures is not cleared enough, so this is just my assumption.
But I bet the production model, will be better, or just continue driving your poor spec Siam Vios, cause nobody force you to buy one, secondhand Japs car also will be a good choice if you still don’t believe in Proton.
I’m no Proton Salesman or even a fanboy, just supporting Proton progress towards a better carmaker.
Last year on a rainy night, i accidentally drove over a kerb in my Ford Lynx at about 25km/h. The tyre punctured and rim was bent but suspension ok. I don’t think Proton explanation makes sense, surely tire/rim would have broken. It looks to me like a very weak suspension design…too bad, im looking for a new car but maybe not Preve.
So now you want to tell Ford use lousy rims and tyres? What is your point dude?
His point is 120 kmh collision is impossible to not to have a punctured tyre. You bodoh ke ape ?
tayar apa yg dipakainya…lepas langgar divider masih elok dan berangin?????fikir-fikirlah sendiri….guna logikal…ha ha
GAJAH TERBANG….:-):-):-)
tyres bounce mamat… that’s why it is still ok… ingat balik physics… inertia dikurangkan dengan bertambahnya masa pelanggaran….
Apabila sebuah bende bergelar kereta dipolitikkan….facepalm
Never be proud with our own national products. Never be proud of our own names.. Lets just continue being no one in the eyes of international. i think this is the problem with multinational country, where it is really hard to bring all of its people to unity.
I think through proton, we can unite.
Hit me.
Just checked out the Preve today. This is my personal view. Design wise, it looks ok but nothing to shout about. I personally like the back more than the front..contrary to many others. That being said, I noticed that the rear of the car starts to narrow, hence the boot doe not look that wide. It may have a bigger boot compared to competitors in terms of liters based on the extra height of the opening. However, I don’t think it’s as wide and has as much usable space as the closest Korean competitor. As for the interior, it seriously falls flat if they are going to market this as a global car. After hearing so much praise for this car by many in the forum…I guess I was expecting too much, but cmon, it falls short in terms of build compared to all the other c segment cars. Not even close to the Forte. Design of the dash isn’t that great either. There is too much empty space/gaps.
The stereo with gps does not look factory fitted. It looks like it was fitted at the accessory shop. The glove box in the test unit would not shut properly. One test unit had problem shutting the boot. The welding work on the doors were horrendous with evident gaps. I brought this up with the salesman to which he admitted that the car has certain shortcomings and this area is something they are looking into. So what about those who have already pre booked the car? are they made to be suckers? For those who wish to book this car now…are we to wait until issues with manufacturing is resolved?
I am not a Proton basher. I went over with the intention of replacing my wife’s 6 yr old Myvi and I came back disappointed just as many others who actually knew a little bit about cars. I overheard people saying that they would rather buy the Forte which is obviously miles ahead in every area. At the same time, I heard 2 young boys talking about thrashing every other car on the road with the turbo power. I on the other hand will hold my purchase idea for now. The Preve I would say is a good effort, but it just stops there. Global car? A sure no. Proton is making the same mistake like when they launched the Waja…with all the marketing hype…calling it, Asia’s answer to BMW. I think it’s the same thing happening now.
dude,
well, i’ve been there.. and i think preve look nice.. far more nicer if compare with the picture.. dont look just for its looking.. how bout CFE performance, TC, ESC, CVT, 4 airbag n etc.. what more u ask.. wings maybe? he3..
i like P1 under DSZ.. he have done a great job taking P1 into new level.. when he said P1 going global means P1 can not depend on domestic market.. they need to foresee other market such as ASEAN, middle east, australia.. if hyundai can suddenly overcome toyota for global car production.. y not P1?
hurm.. just wonder i
It’s true that DSZ has been working hard to turn Proton around. He is so far the best MD Proton has ever had to date. however it is a great challenge to change the mindset of those on the ground, ESP the people in customer service. We all know how good is Protons after sales service. As for the car itself, his intention is good, ie to go global. He is sincere in his wish for proton, but reality is that the car falls short of what is expected of a global car. Things like poor welding work and cheap interior fit and finish will not go down well with say the Europeans, etc. They are used to cars with great quality. Even over here, those who are fullnof praise for this car will be at least 80-90% owners of Proton cars. For those who are currently using Korean or Japanese c segment cars will find the Preve inferior. We nope that Proton will someday build a car that is worthy of global standards. Proton talked about going global with the Waja. Did it happen? Now history is being repeated. 72k is not small. Those who will buy this car will be those in the middle income bracket…or lower middle income. It is a huge investment for them. It’s hard earned money. I think we deserve some value for the money we pay. We need a car that is built properly. Not a car with a full suite of electronics just to give us a false impression of owning an expensive car.
macam mana en.Pv nak sokong produk malaysia..bahasa malaysia pun tak fasih….hmmm….
Guys, i just wondering why the p2 supporter keep posting BMW report to compare with p1. Is P2 same level with BMW? If not, then don’t used that for reference. If don’t know how to compare which category, then better keep quite.
my 2 cents.
That’s because they only want to see it’s fault, most of them imaginary, and to condemn the car. In Malay this we call… BUSUK HATI.
Because P1 calls it Asia’s answer to BMW?
Yah!!
BMW of Asia – ‘Boleh Main-Main Workshop’ of Asia
hope dont mess with peoples’ life..
becoz p2 salesman afraid preve kacau their sales.. i told u,… preve designed for men… not ah soo /college girl they still prefer myvi.. dont worry
all peeve fan will know if their unit got such problem once they start drive ya.
its all about attitude.. when we came to visit the new launching brand new model of H n T or other than proton.. we look for the improvement or whats new about the brand.. when the situation came to OUR BRAND.. we looking for what is FAILURE or BAD THINGS about the car.. just imagine we taking out the logo from n just replace it with whatever brand u like..
eg..when u go to honda showroom, did you ever slam the door hardly..??? knocking the body..??? push the button sampai nak patah jari..??? and test drive car drive it like a *****???? did u?
but why when proton launch a new car.. some of us did that.. :|
think it wisely guys..
When I bought my Toyota Wish that time I really test it “kau kau” . I really slam the door really hard even the salesman told me this is a Toyota not the cheap brands. Ha ha cheer~~
hahaha.. Idiot comparing apple n orange..
Why dun u test vios door which is same PRICE with preve… That dugong is far less inferior than preve..
Ok, let’s not get carried away. We look at facts. You compare the current resale value of a Waja and a Vios from the same year, let’s say 2003. Look at the % depreciation and any prospective buyers will know what to buy.
At that time, the Waja was deemed to be a contender for the 3-series, remember? And now with the Privi, we are ‘contending’ again. Sense of deja-vu?
Guys… he’s talking bout attitude…. not comparing product… please understand…
n actually its a true fact
of all the cars proton copied, this one is the best (in my opinion). however, preve is also like any ordinary sedan, not some heavy duty tanks. no point pushing your ordinary sedan to the max (unless you want to destroy it).
just saw it in d showrooms just now :D, its a good effort by proton, very spacious, and you know new car smell always deceives, but nonetheless good effort
Poor new car….
Who was that stupid idiot behind the wheel?
Hit the divider .. and the car is in middle of the road. right
Petang tadi aku pegi proton showroom tengok New Preve, first impression it ok..
But selepas tgk2 sana sini, aku pegi satu point iaitu pintu, then aku tgk bingkai cermin dengan body pintu hanya dibuat macam spot weld sahaja dan tidak full weld mcm keta2 lain, ade finishing. tp Preve nie hanya spot weld sahaja… knp blh jadi macm nie ?
kalau tak kurangkan kos sebanyak mungkin camne nak untung berlambak.
kalau tak untung byk macam mana nak sponsor samseng samseng pergi attack students…
kalau kereta jepun ke,Eropah ke,xcident,takde orang yg bising-bising, tapi kalau kereta baru Proton xcident,basher2 ni semua mcm kucing jumpa ikan,happy sampai tak habis2 kritik…pakai otak fikirlah sendiri,kereta mana di bumi ini yg tak akan kemik/rosak kalau xcident? Proton di bawah kelolaan DSZ dah banyak menunjukkan peningkatanbagi la peluang kat dia orang…
Don’t you think that if occurrence probability this lower arm broken issue is high proton would already halt all the test drive throughout Malaysia drive by today? If the not, the same problem happen today and experience by customer itself instead of SA Proton already doom, they are not that stupid to put their neck to be slaughter by media and rival unless they really sure that this is not a design issue and it would not happen again with simple trigger condition.
Or possibly proton engineer didn’t sleep overnight last night try to solve this issue, produce a new lower arm and send throughout Malaysia and install to the test drive car and make like nothing happen today? But this does not make sense, any car production process will undergo strict test, lower arm issue should be detected earlier, not during the 4th day of the customer test drive.
If you have friend as SA please ask them either Proton ever change the lower arm to the new one?
This preves that it’s unbelievable.
Should this be featured in top gear?
The salesman told me that Proton will be increasing the price across the range by 3k next month…hence better to book now to enjoy the current price….
Yes, correct…price increase by 3K..u r THAT salesman rite? Kwang3X…
No..im not a salesman. I’m telling you what I was told at the proton edar center of excellence along kesas in shah alam.
they will less up to 7k when the car demand going drop.
This is the so call “to prove” that proton is trying to promote?? To prove that proton has never failed to disappoint the buyer with the bad reliability. Should change the statement on the door to “Drive it to die fast” Oh yeah, not to forget R3 = Rusted Reliability Reputation. Hahaha only malaysian shiok sendiri with proton.
Global car?!!!!!
after making cars for almost 30 years. they still make this kind of lousu car. a normal accident hitting divider will cause the car lower arm break. kinda odd for me. if given any other oversea car maker, when they do mistake they will juz apology and maybe recall all cars back for checking. but proton seems proud to report that this incident is due to the driver problem and it was cause by an accident hitting divider, still proud to report that the driver was unhurt. Proton think that those ppl post this photo for fun, we juz wanna tell proton to improve its car. thats all.
juz my 2 cents.
you just want to bash, wasting time.if you want to correct other people, correct your brother or your child. You got Preve then you can complaint.
YOu are still in your dream land… i think its better for Rakyat if the quality can improve.. I got SAGA…i can complain… do you have a Proton???
STUPID DRIVER + GOOD CAR. . . bad names for the car.
For the ppl who compare preve with BMW. U r just an idiot. You can get 3 preve with 1 brand new bmw 3 series price. Logically, its totally different class,quality and prices.
Preve launching is a major hicup to other manufacturers on their C Class cars.
Other manufacturers? You mean Perodua? Other international manufacturer doesn’t give a shit bout Msia.
and proton + goverment dont give a shit bout wat u said lol
R3=Race Rosak Repair
kamu punya bahasa memang teruk. inggeris campur melayu = memalukan
ei we 1Malaysia mah, it’s ok that we campur one… i like to mix Chinese and Malay in my English conversation with Bananas… ok mah…. btw R3 = Rempit Rosak Roda-keluar…. :p
Not “Real Rotten Rubbish” meh?
The damn care is UNSTABLE
I think if you want to have safe and accident free journeys and driving career, in general, have some moral, follow traffic laws/rules and be civilized. There’s no such thing as breaking traffic laws every day or drive like illegal street racers but don’t expect/want any accidents. And when unfortunately accidents do happen? Blame/rage at others, or run away…………
i heard.. the number of booking oredi reached 3000 unit
woooowww… salesman, Perodua , UMW vios, HondaCity must work harder
but dont worry, preve wont kacau your myvi, vios, city sales… this car targeted to mid n hi income ppl
low income still buying myvi, Vios J spec n persona..
ppl nowadays smart oredi
we want CVT.. no more outdated 4AT
we want Rear disc brake .. no more drum
we want airbags more than 2,.. no more optional
we want Smart Info display at meter panel… no more bling2 wan
no wonder la rakyat turn to PREVE, KOREAN n CONTI
no more japanese 2nd grade ASEAN made in thier garage
ppl SMART orediii
prrrtfhhh
Proton must have an engine so powderful……..that even a driver cannot control it
No wonder they hired Jean Alesi to handle the car………hahhaha
engine so powderful meh..
itu engine boleh bancuh tepung..
The picture doesn’t seen accurate with Proton claimed it hit a divider. 120km/h from that exit, I bet it shall be less than 80km/h unless the driver is kamikaze.
Even the location of the crash site are wrong. It happen on DUKE exit to Jalan Kampung Bandar Dalam heading to Jalan Gombak.
– The front bumper and the rims didn’t seen have any substantial damage at all.
– The position of the car, if it hit the divider while turn left. How the car could still turn 90° and 70feet away from the divider it hit? It shall be just end up on the divider.
– If you said the car had just pull/tow away from where it landed. There is no sign or mark on the road at all. Even the tow truck seen to be just arrive with 1 assistant alone.
preve have been tested by proton. this test would include many things; one of them i am sure relates to the suspension system. I would like to think that after the car passed all the test, it is sold to the public.
i remember once upon a time, one GEn 2 caught fire; and all of you came out and bashed proton, as if all of the GEN 2s would become a fireball. That did not happened.
So, please, just accept this as an accident. I am sure when all the Preves are roaming our road in the future, none of them will experience the same problem unexpectedly.
I think proton was trying to cover up by blaming it on hitting the divider. Looking at the picture, no bumper damaged, no air bag inflate. If the road divider is not high enuf to hit the bumper, the car will just roll over it. If it is too high till it broke the arm, the bumper must be damaged and air bag inflated. Same style as our lovely goverment when trying to cover up the mess they created.
my vios been hit divider before , it cause the replace low arm as well, but not shit in that picture, quality of proton suck
vios quality is the best; especially vios J. Congratulations.
VIOS(RM 75,300) vs Preve Premim(RM 73,000)
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Aigbag 1 4
ABS Front Only Front & Rear
Disc Brake Front Only Front & Rear
EBD Front Only Front & Rear
ESC None Yes
TC None Yes
Reinforce
Safety None Yes
Actie
head rest None Yes
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Toque 142NM@4200 204NM@2000-4000
HP 109 138
Wheelbase 2550MM 2650 mm
Overall
L x W x H 4330 x1700x 1460 4543 x 1786 x 1524
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Suspension
rear torsion beam Multilink with stabiliser bar
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RIM 14″steel 16″ aloy
China version of Vios already using D-VVTi
Malaysia version still using 1NZ-FE(VVTi) with 4 speed,
look how much Toyota love you in Malaysia. And Preve already use CVT technology
of coz Vios with have less part to fail because it does not have anything,
Essentially you buy less with high price considering ASEAN imported car like VIOS which is below 1799 C.C = 75 % Excise duty & 10 % Sales tax, same exactly with Proton.
And yet you are so proud of you VIOS J, guess how dumb is that ?
Duan,
i dont own a Vios.
my post was a reply to alamak post.
Can’t you detect the sarcasm?
Tolongla sikit Toyota has a total of 25 model and easily 60 over variant in sales in north America alone. You compare with Vios ??
Proton excise duty is the same with Toyota ? You tak pernah ke sekolah ke ? You look carefully at your Proton sales invoice and come back and tell me.
YOU, SAME DENGAN YOU PUNYA KAWAN DAN YOU PUNYA BOSS TOLONG BALIK BELAJAR DI SEKOLAH RENDAH KEBANGSAAN kalau tak tau baca sales invoice.
Tapi harga kereta mesti diluluskan oleh kerajaan Malaysia. Jadi harga kereta non-Proton pasal kerajaan malaysia mahu melimndung9i Proton.
Toyota set the price for Vios J for example 50K
But government insist Toyota to should sell the car at 75k
Mean Toyota will make extra profit like 15k right?
Why not from 15k Toyota put extra features like 4 airbag, ESC, Front and
rear brake disc, change to D-VVTi engine?
Keep on blaming government while Toyota make a tons of profit every year.
I agree…. The Vios J lover is a DEFINITE DUMBASS
huh…. hit divider with a speed of 10km/h…. kah??
I think ahh if you want to buy Proton…please buy
if not please buy whatever car brand ….do not
judge like you are specialist in car industry..you all only know
some aspect of car (mostly in engine) want to speak like
hero…get loss
why everyone try to bash their own country product? the sales man should be the one taking all the responsibilities for reckless driving..
If not proton, our country economy can be so much better, cars will 3 times cheaper.
Only those still dreaming don’t bash Proton, you get it?
Pls learn the economy 101 b4 commenting…basic economy will do such ass…industry driven technology creates JOB OPPORTUNITY to society to make ur life make sense just like now…pls open a chapter of what happen when there is no job opportunity to a country???there will be more crooks,robbery etc etc etc if no job get it??
I’m sorry. 10 years ago, there is Ford, Volvo assembly their car in Malaysia. Look what happened now? Many major car players wanna invest in Indonesia and Thailand, and not even look at Malaysia.Why? Why? Why? Why?Why?
becoz cheaper labour cost, cheaper land cost….:)
u do business u want cheap cost or expensive cost?
hey buddy, i agreed with the job opportunity part, but how about the extra money that went into the cronies’ pocket? and also the extra 2-3times the rakyat have to pay to own a car? i think when you put all these into the equation, Malaysians are still living the same with or without Proton…
Why blame the salesman if the product is not good?
Salesman tu patut kena FIRE sebab tak berhati-hati pandu kereta company ,,baru pulak tu ,,kalau dah hentam divider bukan aje boleh patah ,,,rentung pun boleh,,,,untung cuma patah je kalau terbalik mati salesman tu ,,tambah janda lagi sorang ,,kalau dia dah kawin le….ferari pun ada yang hangus terbakar masa eksiden..
thats not a divider. thats a kerb. and if you look at the picture, the front bumper is in good condition and if he really hit a divider at 120km/h….even a volkswagen would be totalled.
bottomline, he hit a kerb while driving over 100km/h and when the car landed..the arm broke. Hence, the quality of the materials are highly questionable.
CVT is a old technology, back in Japanese alrwady more then 10 years
actually almost 30 years back, not 10.
one of the earliest was Subaru with its Justy model sometimes in early 80s.
if CVT is not a new technology why Toyora Wish 2009 only start to be equipped with CVT gearbox
any brands of cars if accident happen,of course got damaged,,but the person dun know how to driver normal car n turbo,,better dun try,,proton must look into the sales person and give them training how to drive,and how to explain to the customer how to drive,,,and proton also must improve regarding quality side,talk about damage,example impreza,evo,gtr,posh,lambo and many2,,if accident happen,,also got serious damage,,so,,???the driver is DUN KNOW HOW TO DRIVE!!!SPEED ALSO DUN KNOW LOCATION!!luckly hit divider,,if hit people others back side other cars,,howw???think,,think la hor,,,stupid driver!!!!
Boleh dikatakan model preve ni mampu beri kita pilihan setara dengan kereta import lain. Cadangan saya pada masa akan datang proton mesti gantikan Hidraulic Power Steering kepada Electric Power Steering dan Timing Belt kepada Timing Chain untuk menjimatkan kos selenggara. Kesannya ia lebih kepada nilai wang anda. Kualiti plastik untuk dashboard dan daun pintu adalah terbaik dan lebih baik jika proton mahir dalam memilih tona warna yang lebih terang dan nampak mewah berbanding warna konservatif iaitu gelap. Secara ringkasnya dalam memilih model kereta kita perlu berbalik kepada asas iaitu praktikaliti dari segi keperluan, fungsi, penjimatan petrol, prestasi dan kecekapan enjin, nilai jualan semula yang tinggi dan keselamatan penumpang. Pada hemat saya, proton sekarang sedang menuju ke arah itu.
Myvi 1.5 has:
– EPS (electric power steering)
– Timing Chain
Myvi is just a Japanese car in CKD with parts coming from Thailand, Indonesia, China and Japan and only get assembled in Malaysia. it is not a locally made car OK. it is a re badged of a car that is already a reject in Japan. no R&D and very small local contents. but people still compare it with PREVE.. what happened with PROTON did the Inspora. it was not a complete Re Badged project but it was almost all Japanese and again same ppl started to bash it. I think here people only want to bash and use Proton as their punching bag… Shame!!!
Unser oso got timimg chain?? hi tech meh??
Myvi no Rear disc brake.. uusing old dump 4AT… no auto start, no SID
prrrtfhh
Timing chain super old technology, 1981 Toyota Corona already using timing chain on 22R. Some conti car like VW, Audi and Ford Ecoboost still using timing belt, much silent and less vibration.
Timing chain also if not taken care properly peformance will be degrade.
Why hate proton so much? Why want to bash and the sad part is those bashers may not even have a proton..maybe you bashers are so damn rich, even the sight of proton will make you vomit.. don’t bash like proton has never contribute anything to our beloved country..and based from my experience I think I can guess who are the bashers here but I don’t want to say it.
This is Asia’s answer to BMW?
Proton’s Reliability Eternally Very Embarrassing(PREVE)
Yes! Only if we Malaysian support P1…but i am sure it is very difficult to achieve thanks to those – I am superior than you- bashers out there.
i am a “LEMON” SAGA owner..can i bash Proton??? Their services and quality sucks big time..
Read my review before buying.
Even my bike is better than this!
Rakyat smart orediiiiiiiiiiiiii
we want 4 airbags. any car which has no min. 4 airbag is RUBBISH
full stop
prrrtfhhh
Nyawa rakyat malaysia become life experiment for road crash, before export to others country.
kampung ppl test drive kaw kaw proton PREVE but so scared to enter VW, Kia dan Hyundai and test drive the car..
why???
not even touch the car.. enter the showroom pon sudah takut
pity malaysian
Proton SA really know how to turn off potential buyer…
@proton showroom like precint 15 putrajaya wont entertaint u 4 test drive if u not make a booking 1st…booking rm500.
Simple excuses-only those really want 2 buy it only…
Bcoz they are lazy to layan everybody..
sorry to here what happen to u lulz…. wanna gud service n explanation… can contact me anytime.. yeah…
why u dont buy Myvi .. japs tech maaa
so myvi got no 4 airbags, no rear disc brake and no CVT
why u dont buy vios J spec
so vios got no 4 airbags, no rear disc brake and no CVT
This is what happen when you’re driving low quality car.
I own MyVi 1.5 and the stability is quite awesome.
I don’t know why you call MyVi a tin milo,.. go hit a divider with VW Polo and see what’s going to happen.
I love Preve designs, but Proton after-sales service is really horrible.
I prefer Perodua because their car is more quality than Proton.
In fact, better than suzuki or nissan.
i told you what la.. myvi 1.5 lagi power lagi best lagi mahal lagi tidak stabil bila corner..
my friend drive a myvi 1.3.. 120km/h already flooding… myvi vs polo? come vs my saga..
Flooding? With tears? Floating… icic. Drive slow, drive safe, at 120km/h, don’t think any car survive.
MyVi awesome stability? Is that the first car you’ve ever driven in your life? Are you driving at 50kmph all the time? It is a car but stabil??? Charlie Sheen on a trip is more stabil that a stock MyVi.. and I’ve got a brand new ,1 month old myvi,to prove it T_T
It’s nice to see some people prefer Forte, Fiesta, Elantra, Peugeot, Chevrolet…. but they seem very surprise when their car value drop like crazy after 2-3 years. :D
Proton doesn’t have good resale value too. At least not like 10 yrs ago. Every Tom dick and Harry can afford a brand new proton now. Those who prefer other makes as you mentioned dont have resale value in mind when making a purchase. They would already know about that. It’s bcos they simply want something better than a proton. On the other hand, as for those who choose a Korean make over a jap make would be paying less when buying. It would come down to the same when selling. The buy at a cheaper price and sell at a lower price.
people prefer to pay for high price on “global” safe crash car, and not “big size” with lousy & noisy engine car.
I don’t want to drive it to believe it… I saw it and I’m a believer… 120kmh baby!!! the SA still in 1 piece and the car only minor damage…
i guess someone in assembly line forgot to tighten the nuts at lower arm ball joint or tie end rod ball joints and at the same time people in QC also tido and give this particular car the “lulus” sign.
i wonder if proton have a coding system to track back way into the assembly line and pin point the parts that have this weakness. may be they can ask the suppliers to use better and high quality material.
Puspakom’s fault?
May be it is JKR’s fault for pot holes?
Full weld… apa lu nak bikin rally car ker? LoL
Thanks God, this is not a fatal accident!
Well, I personally think that we shouldn’t make final conclusion on Proton Preve quality based on one incident like this. We should wait for few more years to see whether Proton Preve is worth for the value of money or not, and then made a fair judgment. For a time being, it still too early to tell how well Proton Preve will go as time goes along.
I’m pretty sure more Malaysian will support Proton Preve if this car can proof it has the quality and durablity against time. If the car can still goes well after 7 to 15 years, I don’t see why we should reject Proton Preve if we can afford it.
However, if the quality or durability of Proton Preve cannot withstand the time, then I have to agree is the right thing for Malaysian to reject or condemn the car and Proton.
Again, apart from Proton Preve, Proton should also continue to improve their cheaper car models especially Proton Saga so more Malaysian can afford a cheaper car with better quality. Do you agree with me?
Thanks God, this is not a fatal accident!
Well, I personally think that we shouldn’t make final conclusion on Proton Preve quality based on one incident like this.
We should wait for few more years to see whether Proton Preve is worth for the value of money or not, and then made a fair judgment. For a time being, it still too early to tell how well Proton Preve will go as time goes along.
I’m pretty sure more Malaysian will support Proton Preve if this car can proof it has the quality and durablity against time. If the car can still goes well after 7 to 15 years, I don’t see why we should reject Proton Preve if we can afford it.
However, if the quality or durability of Proton Preve cannot withstand the time, then I have to agree is the right thing for Malaysian to reject or condemn the car and Proton.
Again, apart from Proton Preve, Proton should also continue to improve their cheaper car models especially Proton Saga so more Malaysian can afford a cheaper car with better quality. Do you agree with me?
good debate. nak beli.. belilah.. taknak beli.. jangan beli.. naik lrt jimat murah
not much damage done to the unsprung wheel rendering me slightly sceptical..still like the car though
After checking out the Preve…I love my Forte 2.0 even more :)
After checking out the Preve…I love my 3 series even more
Totally agreed , i dont even wanna compare them. Totally different class for the same class
Accident can happen anywhere to anyone and even giants like toyota and bmw have component defect so i dont wanna comment about that. What frustrates me so much about proton is the build quality and design. When world car makers coming out with outlandish design like latest civic(uk spec) sonata , or new optima (kia/hyundai same age as proton btw) proton come out with previe ??? Really ? For almost the same price as forte which much much better in my opinion after sampling both .
I used to own satria then gen2 . It used to be much much more affordable in price compared to honda and such therefore the shortcomings was acceptable but when the price diff less than 10k it better be 10k less of the car compared to forte at least but sadly and unfortunately in my opinion it is not. I think it will just be another gen2 in foreign market.
I love proton but they better improve or ….. I dont know merge with another brand maybe
Will preve be like titanic?
After 29 years, this is what P1 do with “BMW of Asia”? Hit a curb and show on Facebook?
been to the showroom to look at the preve cfe. very disappointed. dashboard fixtures were loose and flimsy. Boot was smaller than a waja or a wira,even though supposed to be the opposite. If we look under the engine, facing the chassis, there is no protective cover to prevent damage due to stones, pebbles, etc.quite disappointed. Anyone noticed these, too?
couldn’t agree more!!! i guess ppl jus wan the cheap turbo feel….
I also went to showroom and I am very happy. At RM72,000, what more can I ask?
Plastic is a lot more better than Wira…Boot looked like smaller than Wira but when you open it, wah…it is so big. Best part is the plastic tray. No more worries about leaks from my marketing bags of fish and prawns.
This is definitely my type of car within my budget….but if I have extra 30,000..sure la I buy high spec Forte or Mazda 3. Then I have nice fitting dashboards…but what to do.
the boot is big, but the suspension intrusion are large as well on both sides. Persona has better detailing on this issue
Despite being an anti-Proton, I gave myself a chance and went to the showroom to look at the car.
1. Most forummers are right. The weldings are horrible.
2. There are so many individual pieces of rubbers at the hood either to block water or dust.
3. The gap at rear lamp, bumper and bonnet are so bad and inconsistent.
And whoever in Proton that chooses that double-din radio player should be fired. That is the most horrible thing. The screen is so puny. And the GPS program simply cannot pakai. The map is so incomplete.
However, the good thind is the size. In terms of quality, still lose out to Persona in every aspects.
With the rumoured departure of DSZ, I think buying this car is gambling, worst if the previous CEO comes back.
Yes, welding of Toyota is the best in the world. My grandma already told me like this. She checks the weldseams of her Camry every day and cleans it when rusty.
And my grandpa told me that he first check how many individual pieces of rubbers are at the hood when buying a new car. If there are more than 6, he won’t buy the car. The less individual rubber pieces under the hood, the better!
You are wrong. It’s not the best, but one of the best in the world.
As for the rubber pieces, it’s more like it is a design problem. Poor planning and execution. Everything are put in on ad hoc basis.
Yes, especially the Toyota’s leaking tanks are well known because of the world leading weldseams… :D
http://www.fixya.com/tags/tank_leak/browse/toyota
You are putting on a DIY website for old cars to support your arguement. No wonder Proton still at this sorry state even under the leadership of DSZ.
I know who choose the double din…hehehehehe already run away to P2..hahaha
‘Proton has entered a new era with turbocharged engines in two of their models now – the Preve and the Exora Bold.’
25 years too late.
now i believe
After seeing plenty of bashing and bad comments on the Pervert online, I managed to take some time off and visit the show car at Subang SS14 over the weekend to see it for myself. Summary of my visit:
Pros:
1) Very spacious and comfortable, legroom is aplenty
2) Ride was comfortable too not as bumpy as a typical Plotong
3) Powderful at low end, not sure about top end due to quick test drive around housing area only
Cons:
1) Poor workmanship, bad welding quality
2) Rear doors has tiny cracks near the welding
3) Sales advisor mentioned the stock turbo intercooler hose is too soft, have to change to aftermarket ones else it will overheat easily
4) Poor dashboard finishing, especially the area around handbrake and coins slot
5) All 4 door handles looked like gonna fall off soon, when you pull the handle, you can see it’s very loose
I did a direct comparison in terms of workmanship on the body with the Saga FLX just beside the Pervert, the Saga seems 10x better in terms of workmanship. Bear in mind that only the Premium version @ 73K has turbo. The other 2 lower specs (60K & 63K) is just standard Campro. This means the Pervert already cost 10K more than a Persona. In my opinion, Persona priced at 50K+ it’s an OK price for it’s class and being a Plotong. Therefore I truly believe the Perverts should be priced approx 10K less for all 3 specs.
Of course you do hear Honda and Toyata has cars being burned or problems but if you translate it into number of problems T&H owners has then it’s a different story. You can also say Plotong will have more complains because their numbers are higher but as an ex-Plotong owner I dare say that majority Plotong buyers are budget restricted and had beforehand expected problem(s) to arise thus many not giving a damn and not waste time posting online and raging when we have problem(s) with our Plotong. When people pay premium price for T&H, they rage because they expect a worry free drive, as simple as that.
To all keyboard warriors here, please go to the showroom and see for yourselves, and if you like it please buy it. For me, not in my lifetime I’ll buy another Plotong. Like I told my friends, even if I go broke, the only viable Plotong is the Saga, because it’s the cheapest.
This accident is not even close to fatal. The front bumper are intact. Only the tyre breaking out. How did a car “hit a divider” and the bumper still intact? My money is on this Pervert hitting a deeeeep pothole (kudos to the goverment again!) and “PAAANGGG” there goes the suspension, breaking and tyre misaligning.
Ok, lemme do some forensics here…
1. No large damage to the front bumpers. If it hit a kerb with such big impact, the first thing to go are the bumpers
2. Do you see any tall dividers in the pic? No….
3. And the lane the car was in is a turning lane, tuning left from the mainroad. If the car hit something, the damage should be on the other side, not on the right side of the car.
4. From the slight damage to the front bumpers, it seems that the axles gave way and the car keeled. And when it keeled, the bumpers slightly hit the road which explains the small damage.
Question is, what happens if the axle give way and the car is travelling at 110km/h on PLUS? I won’t buy this car, but what happens if this accident happens and the car crash into mine? Why are things that endanger our lives be put on the road?
i was a loss adjuster for 3years previously. i surveyed around 3-4 accident car every working days. i never found a case a car front suspension system give way by it self. almost 80% cars that ive survey is a proton car. since its the most car in our road. it ridiculous to said the undercarrriage system give way by itself (you can confirm this with any mechanic or adjuster. not an internet keyboard warrior). it surely hit something. i believe a road divider. :)
Test drove the preve last weekend, was really not what I was expecting at all in terms of Proton claiming it’s a global car with global standards…..drove the 1.6 CFE premium model with the turbo nothing or would say no where near a 2.0 liter comparison which was dumd of proton to compare !!!
Car pull to the left and right when I floored the pedal but after 4 plus rpm … the engine was struggling with the CVT gearbox as could not change gear, after I let go then the accelerator pedal then only engage into next gear. Tried in Sports mode with the pedal shifters, similar problem, the gear did not want to move up when pedal is floored, again engine seems like fighting with the gearbox to change gear and some weird noise coming from the engine but the sales guy informed the weird sound is coming from the CVT gearbox and that’s normal.
To move the preve, you need to press the pedal almost close to half way down before the car starts moving, weird as you hear the engine noise goes up but the preve is still stationary before its starts moving. Overall the car interior is spacious and comfortable, handling seems nice and braking seems really efficient and good. But the part with the engine + turbo + gearbox, Proton got the setup all wrong and needs to seriously relook at it again. With this kind of demand to drive the preve in the way it’s been setup now, it’s a matter of time the engine / turbo blows or the gearbox condemns in no time, but 5 years warranty, so enjoy your annual leaves and holidays in Proton service centers !!!
I drive a Persona by the way so am no basher just stating the experience driving the preve, I drove it and will never believe it, my persona is 100 times much better and will stick by it as it has been just awesome to drive :)
Have you test drive a Mercedes CGI before or not. Test it to find out the answer to why this Preve slow pick up.
The test drive car need to go back to Proton Edar (not wakil service) for gearbox tuning sinced it struggle to change gear. My Waja once changed car battery required to tune the gear box, not tune engine!
I believe the weird sound is from turbine not from CVT gear box.
It’s not a twin turbo, therefore should not have the funny hissing sound that comes with a super charger at the low revs. Just to elaborate, the Privi only has a turbocharger which only works in high revs, unlike some of VW’s TSI which have a supercharger and turbocharger.
I said “some TSI’s” cuz the Polo hatch and Passat are not twin turbos, sadly.
“It’s not a twin turbo, therefore should not have the funny hissing sound that comes with a super charger at the low revs”
I don’t get your point. Did you mean that twin turbo need to has a supercharger? I’m sure that supercharger and turbocharger are two different thing. VW TSI have a supercharger and turbocharger. Subaru Legacy B4 has two same size turbocharger (hence twin-turbo).
BTW, the funny hissing sound thing: is it like the wastegate sound, or blow-off valve sound, or what? Truely, I’m asking since I don’t know the real sound you guys are discussing about.
went to the showroom, conclusion: fugly from in to out, i sat on the lousy seat and it’s not comfortable at all… the only thing good is the spec and price…
For me, its okay for anybody to voice out their opinion. But, please never forget our manner.
No need to be rude…………..
P1. Turun la Harga keta tu mangkuk….Baru ler org dapat beli…Untung mau banyak…hakk tuii……….
This is another publicity stunt from proton, to preve what?
Drive safely and don’t buy proton?
Proton should sell bicycles instead of cars because:
a) Solves public congestion problem
b) No need to use fuel, no need to pay for expansive fuel
c) Less pollution, more environmental friendly
d) Can climb curb, no drive shaft breaking problem
e) Rakyat no need to borrow money from bank, less debt. The richer the people, the better the economy of the country. The money can be used towards building a better country by providing free education for uni etc.
One thing for sure , once accident happened , no matter who and what we are , everybody turn to be the I.O (Investigating Officer).
That include me , hahahaha
It’s reality in Malaysia , cannot deny about it.
Harith iskander at his best!
After this those Preve drives would come behind your car in the highway and cucuk you thinking their SUPER DAMN FAST TURBO CFE can tapau u on the highway LOL!!!
Proton is a Proton dont compare to BMW la …. 4 preve only can buy one BMW ok… 29 years in Malaysia now only can produce CFE ? and still the CAMPRO is a crap engine.
How many Saga BLM and Pesona drivers here with Manifold problem???Give a bet after this launching of Preve 1 year down the road you will see many Preve owners will flock the service centre due to various problems…
I test drive last week . The side mirror open when the car moving .. so u can’t use the side mirror to look for cars coming from behind when u start the car .
The automatic gear change is not smooth ..
The Display … judge urself …
The car is spacious .. front
Engine noise –intermitten -tik tik tik when turning at round about @ around 60km/hour
just my experience ..
allo kawan.. dekat pintu driver tu kan ada butang untuk unfold the side mirror.. tak perlu tunggu jalan baru bukak.. just in case u lupa bukak..bila jalan dia automatik unfold..
Whilst we are on the subject of ‘dodgy’ Malaysian produced cars!
Why do we see so many MYVI’s on their roof?
Why do we see so many MYVI’s on fire?
ANSWER: Because manufacturing pay ZERO attention to safety.
Today EVERY car should have:-
Multiple airbags
ABS brakes
Side impact protection bars.
Automatic fuel cut off in the event of an impact!
Safety glass on all windows.
etc etc
Why does this not happen?
…..
ANSWER -because the Government are either unaware or they don’t care.
You decide!
oh…bangau….oh….bangau…..mana u sudah pegi?
lain olang kata itu accident oh….
tapi….betul ka?
It’s time for us to be united as 1Malaysia. Let us show them who’s the boss of our country. Stop buying proton for the sake of our children’s future.
We’re loosing it.
We succumb to our desire to have a new car when our good old car still running fine.
We accepted the extended loan repayment.
We accepted the lack of safety features of cars in our market, when the main reason of changing a car is to have a more secure vehicle to ferry our family around.
I’m not seeing this solely proton fault. Its all ours. We let the industry take advantage of us. Should we brace and held our desire to own a new car (for whatever reason), the industry itself will comeback to us with better, more valuable offer.
We can win the war if we are united. We can overcome our desires if we believe we can. ‘A weak man knows the value of strength’
It”s time for a better country and a better car, we want transparency not excuse.
I wonder what rims are they using? Hit divider at speed yet the rim still round and smooth? Common Proton liars! It’s as crap as ever, and this is a clear manufacturer fault, and as usual, they will not admit it, and to those blind heart supporters of Proton Preve a.k.a Proton Pariah, say whatever you like, but this is just a cut and paste car from Prius, Jaguar and Forte! Copycat saje proton pandai, tapi fail in all departments!
Rims are 16″ 6.5jj with a 46mm offset using AlSi7Mg (A356) aluminum alloy with T6 heat treatment.
Same material used by Beemers and Audis.
If use AlSi11 sure benkok punya…AlSi11 is a high silicon content aluminum alloy widely used for rims. But they are not suitable for heat treatment. Most OEMs in Malaysia use this material.
The rims on Preve are heat treated which almost doubles the strenght from non heat treated rims.
If we believe Proton’s excuse, then their tyre and rims are the top of quality!
Tyres were badly damaged.
The lower area of the side wall was ripped off.
it just a macpherson strut, how hard could it be?, Proton been doing this for ages and this is critical part of the car.
This is not a monkey business, life could be jeopardize, no any car manufacturer will design and test this part properly. same to do with Proton as well.
please stop beign basher. the photo is there at lowyat forum, go and check it youself
It’s near the end of the world and all we get is a preve?
I don’t think any of us chose to dislike P1, but it has been too far too long. Being forced to pay more for cars and getting lower spec cars at higher price than imported cars is part of the reason.
If Proton was able to produce competitive cars in terms of pricing and spec then I dun see why people would complain. Compared to Vios getting burnt or what is actually rather dumb. You see, without the protectionism Vios would be al cheapo – cheaper than Persona even, so it has every right to burn. No?
Jokes aside, what many failed to realize is that Malaysians are not just short changed in terms of the of price and quality of our cars.
Protectionism begets retaliation. No country in the world would just sit by while another country introduce unfair competition by taxing their products. Some where along the line, someone doing some other export to another country have to suffer due to the retaliative tax by other countries.
In truth. The problem runs deeper.
Hello
Do urs guys notice that on the brochure from Proton edar.
The Sage Flx and Preve manual are using the same engine.
Why Saga Flx can acheived top speed 165km/h while Preve manual 180km/h??
tq
flx 1.3 maa.. why u compare with 1.6..
kalau 1.6 SE pun.. ada auto saja maa.. jangan compare dengan manual.. speed of the car bergantung kpd banyak faktor.. final drive also mainkan peranan.. even saiz tayar pun ada contribute on that matter.. hayyaa.. one more thing.. did u notice that for preve theres a + behind that IAFM acronym.. dont notice aaa? tamau tanya ka apa maksud itu + meh?
kete wira akak aku penah jadik macam ni…elak mat rempit..bantai kaki lima…rim bumper…xder benda pun…skali tgk macam xrosak…tp engsel lower arm crack…kete xleh jalan terus…mamat salesman ni test power xkene cara…nak tekan2 turbo…bawak laju x kene tempat…aku walaupun bawak kete member yang sama jenis ngan kete aku..rasa tetap x sama….kene bawak dalam 30 km dan jalan ada kene main handling skit…baru boleh rasa skit limit kete tu…ni baru bawak 5 6 km dah lenjan kaw2…
mana2 kete pun kalau accident jahanam…kene bawak elok2…distance ngan kete depan kene jaga..jgn duk cucuk2 orang…aku pun bawak laju gak..tp tgk tmpt lah…bawak jgn tgk kete depan yang satu tu je..kene tgk beyond dari tuh…sama macam konsep lampu brek ketiga…kalau rasa lain macam…blow minyak..kaki ready brek tangan ready stering ngan gear(kalau manual)..kalau dok brek manjang orang belakang marah lak nanti…
selamat memandu…
Mamat kaki komplen/kutuk proton kat sini…bukannya mampu pakai kereta mewahpun…baru pakai honda civic, kia ke, toyota alza ke…sudah pandai nak merendahkan martabat proton…sorry all kaki kutuk..dekat garaj wa punya rumah…apa tak ada? BMW? Honda? VW? Proton? Audi? semua ada…hari2 wa bawak…tapi wa manyak salute itu proton punya teknologi nowdays…kalau tak mampu beli..atau mampu sikit2 tak payah lah nak kutuk kat fanboy proton ni…among of us the luxurious car owner, most of us thumb up to proton! All the best PROTON!
to all proton basher that say the preve accident is fake…here the evident, P/s,,now what u want to say???
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=2315001&view=findpost&p=50750947
http://i.pictr.com/mhwoj9s6yf.jpg
http://i.pictr.com/nsx5aqdbne.jpg
garaj rumah sendiri ke garaj recond luxury car tempat awak kerja?
banyak tengok DVD ni… tu yg perasan ada banyak keta. prg yg banyak keta ada banyak aktiviti dia nak buat selain dari melangut depan computer baca paultan.org
ntahnyer sembang je kuat Honda la Toyota la, BMW la, Mercedes lah, kecoh sgt.
Pegi la dok Australia nuh senang2 je dapat PR kalau pandai sgt. bayar income tax 45%, GST 10%
Pakai la kete apa korang nak pakai. Kecoh ape kat sini
Korang ingat Proton tutup gomen nak kurangkan tax ke. Mana gomen nak cari duit, tax import krete dah bekurun2 dah. nak buat GST kome bising.
Orang sembang pasal kete kome sibuk pasei Tax la Gomen la, nak sembang politik pegi le Dewan Rakyat nuh jadi menteri, sembang berapi2.
baik tukar gomen daripada tutup proton
Doesn’t matter what the press says. Doesn’t matter what the politicians or the mobs say. Doesn’t matter if the whole country decides that something wrong is something right. This nation was founded on one principle above all else: The requirement that we stand up for what we believe, no matter the odds or the consequences. When the mob and the press and the whole world tell you to move, your job is to plant yourself like a tree besides the river of truth, and tell the whole world—-No you move.
Langgar divider.. haha.. Cuma proton fanboys saja yang percaya karut tu.
Langgar dan lower arm patah lol… kereta semua nampak ok, tak pecah ataupun kemek bahagian tepi dan depan. Cuma yang dapat dikesan ialah tayars sudah lingkuk hahaha..
True story of mine,
Bought proton. go to service centre want to change brake cable. Sales advisor in Jalan Perusahaan Jelutong 3 Fortune Park (Penang Jelutong Expressway there) told me need to pay deposit and wait for few days and they will call me back asap.
Paid Rm50 and get away from there. keep waiting and waiting. after 2 weeks still not received any calls from proton, starts to call them. sometimes pick up my calls said busy and sometimes said the person not around and everytime PROMISED will call back BUT NEVERRRR call back!! i made calls more than 7 times! u imagine how good is their service!
After waited for more than 2months+! coming 3 months!! then i cannot TAHAN with their TIDAK APA ATTITUDE, i keep emailing to Proton and Consumer care!! Finally that FCKED service centre call me back, I am suprised to heard that the sales advisor ask me to collect back the Rm50 with angry voice tone!! He said he is unhappy because im complaining against them!
I cannot complaint? If dont want ppl complaint, then give better service. just a brake cable also cannot solved. need wait and wait. coming 3 months without any updates.
this is what PROTON’s behaviour!! TIDAK APA yoyoyoyo… Imagine if my engine spare parts broke down, i need to wait 2 years more and just waiting like an idiot?!!
PROTON = close your proton la. Already kantoi la your product. Even you taxed other cars so exp, i willing to get those cars which u taxed like hell price because their product is much much more better than you and their service centre really cares about customer! not like PROTON, bought your products yet got bullied.. Wake up la proton fanboys!
now im driving one of Japanese brand car, not imported, just CKD but the product is good!! even the service centre really treat my cars well and always call up and ask if there’s any issue! this is brilliant service provided by them!! PROTON?? balik kampung la.. with your TIDAK APA attitude, forever just like a KATAK bodoh mati dalam PERIUK.
FYI proton fanboys, accept it or ignored it. i know you felt spicy and yet you stil driving a proton.
What’s your complaint got to do with the lower arm of Preve?
Langgar divider.. haha.. Cuma proton fanboys saja yang percaya karut tu.
Langgar dan lower arm patah lol… kereta semua nampak ok, tak pecah ataupun kemek bahagian tepi dan depan. Cuma yang dapat dikesan ialah tayars sudah lingkuk hahaha..
True story of mine,
Bought proton. go to service centre want to change brake cable. Sales advisor in Jalan Perusahaan Jelutong 3 Fortune Park (Penang Jelutong Expressway there) told me need to pay deposit and wait for few days and they will call me back asap.
Paid Rm50 and get away from there. keep waiting and waiting. after 2 weeks still not received any calls from proton, starts to call them. sometimes pick up my calls said busy and sometimes said the person not around and everytime PROMISED will call back BUT NEVERRRR call back!! i made calls more than 7 times! u imagine how good is their service!
After waited for more than 2months+! coming 3 months!! then i cannot TAHAN with their TIDAK APA ATTITUDE, i keep emailing to Proton and Consumer care!! Finally that FCKED service centre call me back, I am suprised to heard that the sales advisor ask me to collect back the Rm50 with angry voice tone!! He said he is unhappy because im complaining against them!
I cannot complaint? If dont want ppl complaint, then give better service. just a brake cable also cannot solved. need wait and wait. coming 3 months without any updates.
this is what PROTON’s behaviour!! TIDAK APA yoyoyoyo… Imagine if my engine spare parts broke down, i need to wait 2 years more and just waiting like an idiot?!!
PROTON = close your proton la. Already kantoi la your product. Even you taxed other cars so exp, i willing to get those cars which u taxed like hell price because their product is much much more better than you and their service centre really cares about customer! not like PROTON, bought your products yet got bullied.. Wake up la proton fanboys!
now im driving one of Japanese brand car, not imported, just CKD but the product is good!! even the service centre really treat my cars well and always call up and ask if there’s any issue! this is brilliant service provided by them!! PROTON?? balik kampung la.. with your TIDAK APA attitude, forever just like a KATAK bodoh mati dalam PERIUK.
walaweiiiiiii..mana traction control n esp???
tak berfungsi ke????
indah khabar dari rupa je….uhu….
just need 1answer to all bashers..
http://mstar.com.my/berita/cerita.asp?file=/2012/4/25/mstar_berita/20120425123319&sec=mstar_berita
http://mstar.com.my/berita/cerita.asp?file=/2012/4/25/mstar_berita/20120425123319&sec=mstar_berita
Now that Proton is owned by Syed Mokhtar, why does the BN govt still protect it? Huh ? Why? It’s his private business. Don’t leach on us you sucker.
What ever it is, Malaysian drivers (mostly some are..) su*k big time… seriously bunch of wannabeezz, selfish, foolish and inconsiderate…
the company only know how to make money… not safety for its citizen… and look at preve is not even consider good safe just only getting hit by sideline…..
HELP HELP, i just got my Preve yesterday, the display of the FC on the dashboard says 13.3L/100KM, does it seems right, -> shouldnt it be averaging around 7-8L/100km??
and o yeah, i now know what it means by ‘underpowered’, it has about 0.7 – 1 second lag time between pressing the paddle to hastily moving its butt, it needs to hit around 2k rpm before sprinting
also why does it sounds like i am on an airplane wanting to take off, the wheezing sounds … its irritating
on top of that, the engine roar can be noticeably heard …. have i actually spent 73k unwisely?
xkan dah beli baru nak tanya pendapat?
wow,,u spend ur money without test drive?
Finally….yesterday was my perfect day to test-drive Prevé….as many people said, there is lack of pick-up sense when I press the throttle, yet it went from 0km-90km within seconds, and after the take off, it was perfectly smooth…engine sound can be heard, yet not loud as from previous Proton models…interior design even-though was simple, yet it is a friendly design, and suited for my taste…then as I move forward to S mode, engine sound turned to be a bit louder, yet fun because it gave me the feel of driving like a F-1 car (no offense, its just how I felt)……the same when I push the gear liver to the left, which is + & – mode….as I took a sharp corner lap, traction sensor indicated on the meter, and I believe that Prevé has been tuned with high-end technologies….even-though water repellent seat, yet its still a good material and I don’t see any problems of it…I don’t like to compare car’s because each car has its own unique features, yet I believe Prevé has various features to be considered….Overall, for 73k with high-tech gadgets, it’s a value for money….
haha..too ashamed of proton..how it can be like that for a new car..
P – roton….
R – arely
E – xceeding
V – ehicular
E – xpectations
just giving input… when persona was launched , i saw many people bought the car( saw many personas on the streets la).. 2 incidents that i remember most was.. one fella drove his new persona up a hill… then cannot get the car to start..Another persona i saw stagnant in the middle of the road(usj road).. one of the rear tyre was facing outward similar to the pic of the preve wreck-the problem is the car was not involved in an accident as it was just not moving most prob because of the tyre/no scratches,dents nicks bumps..nothing… the rear seats still ocvered in plastic implying that it is recently bought… i am not a proton basher.. i drive a wira .. replaced the power window switch twice on the right n once on the left.. I think that if proton wants to be like toyota or honda or nissan.. proton must sell CHEAP ,AFFORDABLE and CHEAP TO MAINTAIN CARS.. That is how japanese cars dominate the car market in usa n all around the world.. EVERYONE wants CHEAP and RELIABLE cars.. if preve retail price is similar to myvi 1.5 , for sure majority people will buy preve.
i don’t care what people said~~~ i got my PREVE last monday~~~~ worth to buy, value 4 money~~~~ those who don’t believe it, up to you~~ go find another car!! hahahaa…. the most important is, im satisfied!!!!
1985 was the year Hyundai came into existance – same year as Proton….Look where they are now. Hyundai models are making significant inroads into the biggest auto market in the World – US, esp the compact segment. BMW is mulling to have JV with Hyundai to develop engines.
Sadly, after coming to 30 years…..all Proton has to show for is lifetime guarantee for power windows??? If the likes of Mazda, Nissan, Fiat, Saab, Volvo,(just to name a few….) have to either merge with the bigger boys or being bought over…..what is the future for Proton?
Where the hell is sam loo? He is suppose to be every post