UPDATE: Gallery now has pictures of the 2.0S, Hybrid and Modulo. Also the Studio shots are in.
Say hello to the 9th Generation Honda Civic. Just launched, there are four variants with three engine permutations to choose from – a 1.8S, 2.0S, 2.0 Navi and the Civic Hybrid. It is good to note that the petrol engine variants are CKD models while the Civic Hybrid is CBU.
The 1.8 litre SOHC i-VTEC generates 141 PS at 6,500 rpm with a torque of 174 at 4,300 rpm. The 2.0 litre SOHC i-VTEC produces 155 PS at 6,500 rpm and has a torque of 190 Nm at 4,300 rpm. Both engines transmit power to the front wheels via five-speed automatic transmission.
As for the Hybrid, the combined power of the 1.5 litre engine and electric motor decks out 110 PS at 5,500 rpm and has a healthy torque of 172 Nm between 1,000 and 3,500 rpm. The Hybrid draws its power from the lithium-ion (Li-ion) battery, which is said to have an increased output of 33% and weighs 9 kg lighter than the NiMH battery. A CVT gearbox is chosen to partner the hybrid engine.
Unlike the petrol engines, which uses ventilated front and solid rear discs, the hybrid has ventilated front disc and drums for the rear. Suspension, however, is same for all – front MacPherson struts and rear multi links. Rubber-wise, the 1.8S wears the 205/55 R16, the 2.0 slips on the 215/45 R17 and the Hybrid moves around on 195/65 R15.
The Civic is 4,525 mm long, 1,755 mm wide, 1,430 mm tall and has a wheelbase of 2,670 mm. The 1.8S is weighs the least of the lot at 1,225 kg while the 2.0S has a kerb weight of 1,270 kg. The Hybrid tips the scales at 1,280 kg.
On the outside, the 1.8S Civic is fitted with front fog lights, halogen headlights and glass printed antenna. The 2.0S comes with HID headlights instead of halogen and gets the extra auto levelling headlights and side mirrors with indicators.
The Hybrid’s equipment list is, well, a hybrid of the two and then some. It has front fog lights, halogen headlights, auto lights, side mirrors with indicators, LED taillights, heat absorbing glass all-round and a roof-mounted antenna.
The sedan gets a lot of kit too. Standard interior equipment list shared by all variants include the 5 inch intelligent Multi Information Display (i-MID), single CD audio compatible with WMA+MP3/IPOD/USB, six speakers, ECON mode button and auto climate control.
The 2.0S variants are further kitted with eight-way driver power seat, smart entry with push start button, paddle shifters and cruise control. The Hybrid plays with the same, only without the power seats and paddle shifters.
The 2.0 Navi gets the additional 6.1 inch navigation touch screen that displays video from DVD, VCD, DivX and the reverse camera. This variant also comes with Bluetooth audio and can be linked to your phone.
All Civics now comes with the Vehicle Stability Assist with Motion Adaptive EPS, ABS and two front air bags. The 2.0S, 2.0 Navi and Hybrid gets extra side airbags with occupant position detection system.
What is grabbing the headlines is not the engine or the tech that comes with the car. It is the service interval and warranty.
Service interval have been extended to 10,000 km. Honda says that the car and engine is durable enough to have a longer service interval. The labour service is also free up to six times, but it is only applicable for every alternate paid service until 100,000 km.
Just as the City, the Civic has a five-year warranty with unlimited mileage. The Hybrid also gets a five-year warranty with unlimited mileage for the IMA battery.
The 1.8S Civic is going for RM115,980, the 2.0S for RM131,980, the 2.0 Navi for RM136,980 and the Hybrid for RM119,980. All prices are on-the-road and the cars are now open for booking.
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i thought hybrid is the lowest price.
but i m wrong
Additional RM 5k for the Head Unit is also a ripoff.
We have to thank carmakers like Kia, Hyundai, Peugeot and even VW for this 5-years warranty by Honda. Without them, Honda will still try to rip us off with just a 3-years warranty.
What the hell happened the car price??
Compared to previous model, these cost like 15% more, and yet technology is almost the same!!
Those of you whom are buying – you are paying MORE FOR LESS!!
Why pay more? Because Honda ma. Ur friend will jealous if you are driving a Honda car.
I totally aglee lo…honda brand give some pretigeous…2nd value vely good
According to another website, this new Civic has 60% local content level. From an article here last year, Inspira during launch only had 26% local content and Proton was targeting for 65% local content after one year.
The Inspira price is a lot lower than Lancer thanks to a lower tax from the high local content level. I believe the Civic would also enjoy a lower tax thanks to its high local content level.
The question is, why the price of Civic has increased instead of decrease? Is Honda Malaysia raking in a lot of profit?
guys…don’t you get the hidden agenda?? more warranty but price increase.. that’s probably how they turn around..
the handbrake lever is sooooooo funyy.. cmon la honda. see vw, use only button..why so hard to change the mindset!
Dont like the following:
1) Big RPM display not necessary for automatic transmission car.
2) Dashboard look ugly.
3) why 5 speed transmission when other have introduced 6 speed 2 years ago.
4) Not as macho as previous civic
5) Ugly audio control at stering
You expected Hybrid price below RM 100K, then non hybrid can ta pau lor……
You are lost.
Good move, Honda Mal.
All of a sudden, Honda Mal becomes the most generous Jap car distributor in Malaysia now.
Please support Honda to make others follow.
Yes, this is a nail in the coffin for Elantra.
THose that bought Elantra hailat oledi
Alamak, look at the BIG wheel arch gaps!!!!
Really? Let’s do a comparison
Elantra 1.8 vs Civic 9th 1.8
Price : 112k vs 116k
Engine hp: 150 vs 141
Torque : 178 vs 174
Gear : 6 vs 5
Seat : Nappa leather vs fabric
Seat adjust: powerseat vs standard
Side mirror turn signal: Yes vs No
Auto folding: No vs Yes
Sun Roof: Yes vs No
Head Unit: Built in GPS vs standard radio+ mp3
Reverse camera: Yes vs No
EPS: Yes vs Yes
VSA: Yes vs Yes
Push start: Yes vs No
Keyless entry: Yes vs No
Auto light sensor: Yes vs No
Auto rain sensor: Yes vs No
Warranty: 5 years vs 5 years
a-huat, u did a good job!
but rakyat mindset still prefer jpn not koria. there r hidden technology that v don “see” it, but need to “feel” it! eg. my 2 bro one own sonate & the others tiana. the sonata bro agree the tiana is much quiet inside the cabin.
Yeah yeah…you can compare everything. But most people do concern about the price depreciation.
For example after 10 years, Civic: RM50K Elantra: RM25K…Which one would you choose?
To CK:
Why everyone still get trap by the 2nd hand value? You buy a car = you have made up your mind to do a 100% lose money investment.
You don’t buy a car and start to think, “Oh ya, after 5 years I gonna sell it for a good amount of money”…Life is short, enjoy while you can. How many 10 years do you own?
We need competition, then only we as the consumer will win. It is a good example that Korean car and german car put up some competition and now Honda gives 5 years unlimited milleage warrranty.
To 1Mal:
Yes, have to agree that Japanese still have better refinement. But, I think it depends on what kind of ride you opt for. Nissan is known for smooth and quiet ride, and less on sporty side.
brader u miss 1 thing. 2nd hnd value which one better…u know the answer
But hyundai has a poor 2nd value…
it’s 2nd hand value is getting better nowadays
The vertical H vs the slanted H!
Elantra vs Civic
Price : 112k vs 116k … yes I agree
But the sad thing is aftermarket value ??
The difference is about 20-40K
eg;
Hyundai Elantra 2.0 (A) Black , Service Record -08
RM 53 800
Honda Civic 2.0 A i-VTEC 1 engineer owner FULLOAN -08
RM 93 800
who cares 2nd hand value any more? with 9-yrs loan nowadays… basically pakai sampai mati lor…
if everybody buy the all new elantra.. the secondhand value also not too bad.. am I right?
To SashiRao :
You aware that civic 2.0 new car cost 130k right?
RM130k – RM93800 = RM36200
Elantra 2.0 HD (last gen) new car RM94000
RM94000 – RM53800 = RM40200
So can you tell me is there a major difference between the depreciation value?
Don’t forget, you already save alot of money in the first place during purchase.
1 more thing, civic 1.8 9th gen still give goodyear NCT5, while elantra 1.8 MD gives continental MC5. Talking about generous Honda Malaysia… LOL
GoodYear NCT5 also stock tyre for MYVi….. ahahaha
nct5 old aready now qith cc5, but inspira better with mc5
I own an ELANTRA 1.8G 2005 & i drove CIVIC (fren) quite often. I still prefer driving my ELANTRA much more than CIVIC 2.0 since I enjoy driving more than enjoy THINKING.
Price-wise a few thousand increase but no substantial improvements as far as I can see. The worst is the hybrid version. Tax-free but still reach RM120K. Previous price was RM108K only
Government reduce tax of hybrids, UMW-H take advantage of it by increasing price back to usual. We can expect next generation Pruis to be RM170k. There was really no need for the tax revision in 2006.
Relatively, BMW and Merc still treat us better than these arrogant PSEUDO-luxurious aim-for-mass-market Japanese carmakers.
Better buy Merc and BMW.
this is 1.5, OMG ! that was 1.3.
Due to horrible reviews all over the world Honda is pushing out the facelift version for the 9th Gen Civic much much earlier. Expected to launch end 2012 or beginning 2013.
So if you insist on buying this car, be a smart buyer and wait another 6 months and see or be typical Malaysian and buy the car now.
if old stock no sell, you think they will bring in new one, remember Sentra ?
So expensive but still hard plastics everywhere! At least the Toyota Altis has some soft touch material.
5-years warranty is a good move but with all the CKD problems I heard for the 8th Gen Civic, you will definitely need it.
Can’t see any real improvements here to justify the price. All those accessories are mere gadgets that I can do outside for a much cheaper price.
Looks are subjective but uglier than the previous generation for me. Even the interior space also look smaller.
Best joke is the 1.8 version practically has no real changes. Since they have now standardize the projector headlamps, at least include HID for all variants.
You are right. Most of the car maker has started to include those so called “luxirious” features in lower end model. Really don’t understand why is Honda Malaysia so stubborn. 9th gen 1.8 spec generally stays the same as 5 years ago. The only feature that is added is the I-MID which I think is just a bigger screen information display and is nothing to shout about.
Not bad…
Here’s hoping Drb-Hicom doesn’t mess up with it like how they did with the Preve.
Hidup Syed Mohktar! Hidup Honda!
Still a good price at 119K
Dont complain lah people about the high price! How else can the government get money to send all the MARA students overseas?
More intriguing is the car is 60% Malaysian content. People must be Bodoh to buy this “Malaysian” made car at this price. Even my Proton Waja I think has more Japanese content than this Civic.
Ha ha. How Malaysians are cheated. You are not buying Japanese lah. Don’t fool yourself. Anything more than 51% is a car that is Made in that country. Its a Malaysian car, just like any other Proton. You are better off buying the Inspira with a full Mitsubishi engine.
Or even better, add a bit more and get a Mazda CX5. Full CBU Japan.
Kong Chia You are very racist… just stick on commenting about the car ok…
It’s a car blog man. stick to the car. if not go and comment on Malaysia Today, suits the way you talk.
Yeah. Agreed. I will go for Chery. I always support the chinese products. I don’t want to be rascist.
Obviously u don’t know what u are talking about, comparing a proton to a honda???
Nice comment Kong Chia. Your comment isnt racist a bit. Not a single bit. You are the true gentleman. Keep it up Kong Chia.. you stupid b@ast@rD!!!!
60% local content and priced that much? This what happens when we have to support the bumi crony parts suppliers in Malaysia. Local parts are so inferior in quality that they need to force Japanese car manufacturers to take the parts or else suffer from high taxes. Thailand gets CBU car and the price is so much cheaper than Malaysia. Infact, all over the world get CBU except Malaysia. So if you are buying 60% Malaysian, might as well buy a Proton lah!!
dnt blame malays, local parts are generally supplied in malaysia by china man companies,
research properly bfr shout
u singh pple only knw how to critise malays only.
Mr Singh… please appreciate living here in Malaysia.. “bumi” speak thousand words… be careful of what you write or else you can sit back an be a guard as long as your ancestor originally shipping here for….
I would go for a big lambo instead of barking in here.
I’m hoping Mr. Singh will bring all Tata models into Malaysia soon. I always adore them.
Dey Mr. Singh, lu punya nasib lu makan, dia punya nasib dia makan- apa salah makan sama-sama? thats your ancestors dialog in P.Ramlee movie. Don’t complain much when your life in Malaysia is full of subsidy. Those local manufacturers pay taxes and provide jobs to people in this country..
OMG. Since when Thailand got CBU unit? They also CKD. Their price is much lower because their volume is freaking high so the OEM part is much cheaper. You think Thai govt don’t have tax? They sell cheap in Thai because H can be exported anyway so they eat so much money from there alone. You think Honda here can export? Not even my EX-5 can export.
But anyway this Civic should be cheaper!! Eat smaller money, but gain the volume la Honda! Stupid sales strategy like they don’t realize the wave of their competitors..
Mazda and Nissan r so much better than T & H ! even Kia & Hyundai r much better than T & H now ! even Proton is better than T & H now ! T & H r getting super ugly,super date technology,less features,only dua airbags,low quality but overpriced !
Nissan? The cheapest car Nissan offer stability control is starting from RM173k. Many Malaysians don’t realize this.
While Nissan might performed well globally, personally, I think Nissan is the worst Japanese carmakers in Malaysian market. They don’t really bother about Malaysian safety.
Sentra, X-Gear, Grand Livina, Sylphy, Latio, all of them WITHOUT stability control. That’s very unacceptable.
have u heard nissan cars have small problems? like T & H did?
no..only big problems..hahaha…
Don worry T & H still cant best Nissan GTR 35 :)
nissan much better ha… how abut their famous GTR and skyline.. both driver dead in crash at kuantan.. they should design car that safe in high speed crash or it just same with kancil put turbo in..
My Honda Civic 9th Gen now got problems that SC cannot fix. Constant wind noise from driver’s side. How to explain?
Already left the car with the SC three times and the last time a representative from Honda Malaysia is present yet the problem was not fixed! Funny thing is, after three visit not even a single part was replaced, makes you wonder whether Honda Malaysia is serious in honouring their so-called 5-years warranty. Bad enough the car is defective but I have wasted three whole days to find out nothing has changed. So much for after-sales service.
Did anyone notice there’s no EBD n BA on this civic???
Seen it on the metal.Not bad,really.
Agreed ! Expect it to see like hot cake.
“see” like hot cake?
Wah the center console looks so cacat one..
Agreed! When take a close look, it seem like recycle material and really look cheap!!!
The plastic is horrendous! Could there be any lower graded plastic out there? The Polo Sedan has better quality for sure and yes, it’s at a lower category.
i love the inside. very late-80s retro look. [sarcasm]
wth honda? actually looks worse than last civic edition
“Blood sucking price” no thank to NAP!
ok,let proceed our donation to NAP
the civic hybrid’s front is so ugly!!!
The design grows on you
not a bad price. considering its honda
and it comes with 5 yrs unlimited mileage warranty now
Great warranty!
Is it that hard to make Push Button start standard?
does it take so much effort to turn the key?
Ask any lady, how much effort is required to find the car key inside their handbag.
lolol
Is it that hard to put egg in roti kosong, roti tisu and murtabak?
haha why i can see some design cues from forte and preve especially the front?
Stop mentioning preve n korean car in every car post please. Kind of sickening ….
Why do i think that the korean’s interior is much better than the japs?
korean cars handle badly. they tend to look good outside, but terrible when it comes to handling. Even preve’s road-going quality is much better than the popular forte.
@DriverLM: Don’t really agree with you. I’ve test driven the Forte and also some Jap cars (Sedans like Civic, Vios, Altis), I would say both or them doesn’t have much diff or would I say the handling is on par with the Japs. Japs handling is just decent only. If you are talking about cars that handles well…COntinental Cars would be the choice and obviously Preve handles well due to Proton owns Lotus so yea, Lotus Handling. No one would actually deny that Proton cars has good handling
This front end design derived from accord euro cl7. ..i believed this cl7 is launched looooong ago from preve and forte…
whoa so many thumbs down for you ha ha ha
This civic was first launched way back b4 preve was launched and it carries the DNA from the 8th gen civic which was launched b4 forte… You know what I mean
should i say the this car looks like the previous civic which was launched in 2006 few years even before preve and forte existed?
agree!! the front light looks like preve and the buttock looks like mercedes c200
…..but uglier
Because Forte copy City in the first place, understand Kimchee Brain.
YOU ARE RIGHT, SAME FEELING. HONDA PREVE?
Low class car!
Low class comment!
Go get a lambo man!
you forgotten last time everyone was saying forte copy civic and city?typical basher….
honda deserves the bashing, that’s why
Nice rims for the silver one…the exterior and interior need time to get used to in it…still think the rear lamp is abit same as the old camry lol.
Any body out there dare to say this honda was a copy from preve?
no
Honda had this concept since 2005.
http://goo.gl/b4YLT
i dare to say..
preve butt looks better..
and of course..interior quality..especially the dashboard.
yea right. Then why don’t you launch an inspira with preve butt than preparing for lancer sportsback clone.
i was comparing this new civic butt with preve..
see although preve’s butt is not so nice..
this is worse..why came out with inspira lancer crap amoi?
typical japan blind fans..
watch a lot of hentai heh?
sorry to say preve and forte designs win over civic, koreans and malaysians prove they are better in design this time
AGREED!!! MALAYSIA WINS!!!
Yeah!! Let’s kick the top gear blokes’ asses. They should approve this.
FRIEND, YOU THINK WHO YOU ARE?
I love New Civic. Going to book later. ^^
8 ppl are jealous over u.. coz they oni ride kapcai
kapchai can smoke civic any day
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in traffic jams!
Go for it Michael… all these guys were being paid by Toyota…..
I love both Toyota and Honda. Problem?
It has same engine as 8th civic, but 10k interval is not apply to 8th civic, should said 9th civic engine slightly improve engine from 8th civic…
All modern engines can last and don’t need to be serviced so regularly at every 5000km like Honda forces its customers to. It’s just to rake in more money but this greediness causes damage to the environment. Why can engine oil so frequently when it’s still useable?
agree with you guys engine shd be make to last longer and work harder esp ours roads hv loopholes, twisting, uphill…besides engines alike human body no need frequent maintenance just like you don’t easily fall sick and need a doctor as you exercise occasionally…
Nah. It won’t happen dude. Capitalism is at its best now. If the engine can last longer, how to make extra money? For those out there who approve capitalism, remember this, u suck on people blood, ur blood also being sucked as well. So, stop whining.
because oil filters can only last 5-7K ??
hmmm i guess giving us the warranty was the only way to create demand..looks like honda is kinda desperate…but gosh that center console is one hideous looking thing..
look preveirsh to me
http://goo.gl/b4YLT
preve has better back design like conti, one side grill front opening is to let air going in since it’s turbocharged, it’s functional, not just for cosmetic purpose
Side curtain air bag?
I kinda dig the new civic looks… ain’t this new civic already best seller in US??
That’s why….. The Joes banging the us civic but it still a best seller there… Don’t you smell something fishy… (toyol’s,ta guys behind this huhuhuhuhu)
*sniff. Yes. I do smell something. I smell fanboys. Do you have any idea how to get rid of it?
the car looks nice here compared to other photos seen so far. why the top range is DVD capable when the screen is too slanted towards the driver?
i think the previous gen still looks next-gen compared to this version.
For Civic Hybrid, it comes not only with 5 year warranty, but 10k KM interval. Good news.
Preventive Maintenance Rates and Costs for the Civic Hybrid (km or months, whichever comes first):-
1,000km or 1 month: RM24.80
10,000km or 6 months: RM278.49
20,000km or 12 months: RM422.03
30,000km or 18 months: RM436.30
40,000km or 24 months: RM617.96
50,000km or 30 months: RM278.49
60,000km or 36 months: RM579.84
70,000km or 42 months: RM278.49
80,000km or 48 months: RM1,245.99
90,000km or 54 months: RM436.30
100,000km or 60 months: RM1,796.63
Total: RM6395.32
Average maintenance cost (in 5 years): RM1280 per year.
Is this considered cheap or costly? I don’t know since I never bought a new car in my life. Any advise?
i think we also need to find out how much it cost to replace those batteries just in-case..
last time I asked, it was around rm5k – 7k just for the battery.
form my current car, Persona, its look a bit expensive.. but if u willing to pay more, why not.. car is liability, better save some money to buy home instead of fancy cars:)
Not really…when you go back to your hometown during raya, a good car is a must. Many of Malaysian will judge how well you are doing in your life by just looking at what car you drive.
now that is a stupid way to live, no?
ok if you can afford a new car at raya but let’s not live “papa asal bergaya” that will be the jahanam of most who do that.
It’s not a must..this just reflects a shallow and superficial mindset.But it’s yr cash(or perceived as much of it is generally loaned)and one is free to spend it as one likes.
Sory to say carazy… i have 2 fancy house but nill fancy cars…. i drive a kelisa and my wife a getz.. mmmmm…admiring cars with those safety gadgets like Electronic Stability Programs…without Korean tag…
sounds like a good way to go, but you must understand, it is very hard to resist all this marketing pressure.
not just cars but handphones, Tvs, heck even houses! LOL.
i myself drive a myvi and the wife a livina, a fleet(if i can call it that) that serves our needs as a young family of 4. though sometimes i wish more lowdown torque in my ride. focus tdci would be good! alas it going to be replaced! so sad!
Guys. No need to be too choosy. Work hard, save money, get a Lambo. Everyone is happy.
Add on the Li Battery replacement and labour charges after warranty expires.
Rear drum brake for Civic Hybrid, seriously?
How fast do you want to drive a hybrid car???
where did you get this ?
You can check it at Honda website. Go to Civic Hybrid (or any model you want to check)> Accessories > Maintenance.
If compare to previous civic, total maintenance cost for 5 year (5k km interval)is RM6660.30, then is comparable.
Maintenance per year is cheaper than the 3K insurance (without NCD)
Wait till you bang the car against a lamp-post or the back of a lorry, then the real cost comes in.
What types of car that cost ciput when you bang a lorry’s backside????? Hello friend… better buy a bicycle…
Are you Honda salesman?
yes he is, ask his hp no. if you want a test ride
LOL
I don’t know how your cashflow is. If you are concerned about outflowing cash to maintain the car, then maybe you should consider something else.
Buying a new or old car doesn’t make a difference in the cost of maintenance, if the old car is well taken care off.
Both cases still pose the same question. Can you afford to pay in full the cost for every maintenance service, especially above RM 1K+ ?
Welcome to the real cost of car ownership, besides paying loan instalment, insurance, road tax, petrol, toll & parking charges.
volvo s40 total sum up 100,000km is about RM7500.00,
so it is not much cheaper for honda. Only a little cheaper.
2010 Honda City Preventive M’tnance cost is around RM1200 (average 5 yrs/100K) 5000k interval. So where is the saving? Im sure the New facelifted City average cost is around that figure as well. Weather it’s 5000K or 10000K service interval, the cost of maintenance is basicly the same.
of course no saving, honda just want your money till you drop, you pay a lot but you get only plasticky dashboard, my oh my. would rather get preve or pug 408
Model look hot…
haha 308..that’s known as ‘association’..honda wants the Civic to be on yr mind when you think abt the “model”..both nice to look at but high maintainance dude!
Does Honda still have stocks of the previous generation Civic? I think that is the better car.
What’s the big deal with 10k km intervals? Many cars are already on 10k km (if not more) intervals.
The centre console looks cheap and if Honda’s cost-cutting can extend to such a prominent part of the car, I don’t want to think what they’ve taken out in the unseen parts of the car. Overseas reviews have commented on the higher levels of NVH. I will need to test drive one to see if this is the case.
Why the mismatched colours on the dashboard? :(
I wana trade in My 1.8 Civic FD, so much problem , every 3mnt sure got sumting …Brek Pad, Steering hose/PUMP/oil.. Mounting/ Absober …
Since its 5yrs Warranty , no more worries.. use 5 years kaw kaw, sell again
sashi bro..all u mention Brek Pad, Steering hose/PUMP/oil.. Mounting/ Absober ” all this item doesnt come with warranty le
This car is sucks! The front copy Proton Preeve and the backside copy Toyota Camry. Buy BMW better they is originals only
X6 is like gen2, bmw also copied others
Bro,don’t compare X6 with the rubbish gen2.
So Audi A7 also looks like Gen-2,are you dare to go out and yell AUDI IS COPYING PROTON !!!!!
Can you?
i dun care, gen2 came out first lol
Oh maybe you haven’t seen BMW 318ti,after you see that you will know who came out first.
@BMW BEST
BMW 318ti is nothing like gen2, different one and ugly
I know both of them are different car but both of them look nearly same from the side : long front and short rear.So can I assume that Gen-2 is copying BMW?
wash your eyes
gen2 far more beautiful than oldies 318ti
@Verba,
Please dun compare a BMW when you cannot even afford its 4 set of wheel. Gen-2 is a rubbish car that deserve to be scrapped.
Everybody know X6 copied Gen-2 even though Gen 2 is a rubbish car.
=X6 copied Gen2
=X6 copied rubbish car
=X6 rubbish car
=hahahha
Yeah yeah whatever,since you so defending Gen-2 so I’m not going to keep argue with you.So go stick with your Gen-2,and I will keep supporting BMW X6.That’s it.
mind your tongue Mario….the gen2 is which brighten your house back yard
are you afford to buy a car even Datsun or only just able to criticize?
Can’t agree more with u bro. I always wondering why do overseas car always copying Malaysian car design. Anyone got answers?
8th gen 1 is looks more sporty…. This 1 kinda looks like mature abit… Anyway, mybe have a body kit makes it looks more hotter… Haha…. Let see..
and since its an improved 8th Gen, i assume problem has been fixed. But sadly Expected Hybrid to be around RM109K … saves oil ( Long run D best car availabe worry FREE. No much money spent on OIL and Maitainance.
Yeah, 5k service interval really saves a lot of OIL compared to 10k service interval… Dunno how the hybrid can save OIL, maybe can save FUEL.
Yeah, im eyeing HYbrid but how much diff does it make, is it WORTH ??? Please advice ! compared to Jazz,Insight ill take civic
the metal color is awesome.. but side view is more like a city with difference back view…
front view is city plus old civic..
back view like niggers butt..
the dashboard look so fugly… donno whose’s the designer could be some one from mars.. really damm fucuk weird.. is not futuristic is weird..
the price is really “honda”, no comment on that..
5years warranty, than how much total damage for owner pocket for service charge n parts?
10% dp with 2.5 interest u still paying:
1,183 permonth for 9 years (1.8)
1,398 permonth for 9 years (2.0)fullspec..
if buy using company money, is okay.. using own money? better buy preve..
you are datuk , why do you still care about money?
Even a Datuk went ‘pokai’ maaa…… Hehe
Not all Datuk is kaya la weiii…
Agreed with you on that niger….datuk ape chi pakai preve..
agree… :)
Exterior doesn’t look too shabby but headlight design looks too similar to the 8gen US sedan version and honda city, whereas the interior dashboard seems chunky and uneven. The two red buttons look akward side by side too.
Corolla Altis looks nicer.
Another Toyol’s tas junkie…
the design is kinda disappointing for me. Would prefer the previous gen (8th Gen) civic more.
YEAH BABY!….NAVI cost RM5000 more and you get 6.1″ navigation touch screen! the world is going mad.
Modulo-ed model looks good also ..
Ugly car from front to rear. Lacks ideas and creativity. Warranty is good. Still, similar to Toyota, blood-suckingly overpriced for a car that looks like a baboon.
i seriously think it looks like chimp(anze)
Ugly car from front to rear. Lacks ideas and creativity. Warranty is good. Still, similar to Toyota, blood-su_kingly overpriced for a car that looks like a baboon.
Kwame look like a baboon maybe, Civic look great.
Haiyooooo…kwame and lion… “apish” car enthusiasm… i like…
“What is grabbing the headlines is not the engine or the tech that comes with the car. It is the service interval and warranty.
Service interval have been extended to 10,000 km. Honda says that the car and engine is durable enough to have a longer service interval”
HAhahaha …i laughed my head off reading this statement , seriously HOnda Malaysia , Who are you trying to con with this statement ?
non of your business, as long as the car is very much better than those rubbish dugong car.
lol only a bit prettier than dugong, that means still ugly, yuck!
nah corolla altis looks sleeker and classier, this looks like the designers lost their passion for designing. and i do agree the 8th gen civic still looks the best.
I drove it just now ,2.0 engine is quite responsive and torquey upfront but the grey plastic dashboard puts me off .Do something about it Honda .
Hmmm… it looks slightly better than what I expected… not bad.
center console = “WAJAR”
agree, but why oh why?
All variants come with VSA, Toyota, please learn!
you don’t need VSA in toyota cars because it’s superb handling, when when you get turtled it can go jump and flip back to centre position
sarcasm at its best!
Toyota good in handling?!? r u dreaming…
Hahahahahahahahahahaha…. at first i read your comment… i just don’t agree what you are saying but when i read it twice.. it makes me lough till my stomach hurt… keep it coming jialat..
hahaha what a joke of combination from City head + Accord tail. Ugly than our proud national car Preve. feature wise…. haizzz.. totally lose to getting more and more popular car Forte
shhhhhh later on many bashers will get butthurt, they can’t stand it if someone praises preve
says Japs really making fool of Malaysian with this price…F U Honda!
Just like Jib Gor making fool of Malaysian
what happen to honda’s interior designer? are they dead??
They are contaminated with nuclear. Evening joke :D
they resign and move to Hyundai and KIA!! hahahaha
or maybe proton…..lol
I prefer the previous design which seems nicer. Need to survey first. I’m considering between civic,golf tsi n new focus. Need to see n test drive the car.
bro, wait for new m3..save more money first..
10,000 service interval is big news? How about severe driving? Also 10,000-km?
Proton’s CFE engine is already 10,000-km service interval but 5,000-km for severe driving.
Model gals look better thn the car. Design sucks…
i strongly believe u r blind. ppl will only stare on the car, nobody will look at those model. unless those model is standing beside other car, then nobody will look at those car.
if the car is built in the 90’s, yes, it looks stunning..
but in 2012, it is just bad taste.. the models looks better… :D
5 years unlimited milleage warranty ? this is indeed a good start from japanese car maker.
hope toyota will follow as well.
Actually not toyota. UMW make them look bad.
Anyone who actually follows automotive news would have expected this way back in 2011. http://goo.gl/4u5UM
Anyone else who thinks any car looks ugly, please draw/design and educate us on how your definition of any awesome looking car should be. I bet you cant even draw a proper circle.
look carefully, some parts are ugly designed, especially at backside
define ugly :P
ugly like dugong, so cute!
designer preve lah tu…
hek elee.. lepak aa bro. baru kutuk design skit dah cabar buat design sendiri. lek aa bro. kalau macam tu mampus la semua org tak leh complain. complain nap suck, kena buat nap sendiri. complain politician corrupt, kena jadi politician sendiri. complain astro mahal, kena buat astro sendiri. complain air asia delay, kena bawak kapal terbang sendiri. giler aa bro.
woi ni kereta jepun 130k tau tak? kau pakai proton buruk je mana setaraf dengan ini king of car
well said… tahniah!!!!
Superb car. Just test drove it. Feels generations ahead of any korean junk out there!
dengan ini aku ingin bagi warning pada sime darby dan hyundai malaysia. kalau korang tak dapat deliver elantra 1.8 color putih aku sebelum raya, aku akan cancel booking dan order civic. esok aku nak gi letak booking kat civic. aku bagi sa (glenmarie) aku sampai next senin week utk confirm elantra aku boleh dapat cepat, kalau tak, aku proceed civic. dah 2 bulan lebih tunggu tapi janji semua hampeh!
pegi jela booking civic tu, kau ingat kau sorang je yang mampu beli kereta 120k? ada berlambak customer lain yang bole beli. takat bayar rm500 sebulan baik kau pakai kancil buruk je
you should cancel jer bro…. nowadays.. “janji ditepati”… when it comes to hariraya takut you gigit jari…
100% HONDA SA!! hahaha… pity!!
101% korean junk or proton SA.. poor guy..
ye ke???? adoyaiiiii…. pity on me because commenting on his column..
guys, need your advise…
accord 2.0l is about RM138k and civic 2.0l navi at RM136k…
which one will you go if you’re me?
i need a family car for weekend outings only…
for me, it looks like kinda silly getting the civic navi whereby i can get the accord at similar price range…
maintenance interval and warranty not a point for me to consider, so the extra from civic to me is ok.
pls help bros…
Buy the Accord la, or for the replacement Accord end of the year. Bigger car and better presence.
I have both and I tell you its better to get the Accord. It’s much more comfortable and it’s not that slow either.NVH is better in the Accord. But if you are young or young at heart then probably the Civic is for you
It depends on your priority. If your priority is SAFETY, better get Civic since it’s come with stability control (VSA). Accord 2.0 doesn’t come with VSA.
I hope you will satisfy with the car you buy.
u might cry when the new accord launch here..if the price is about the same..
Are you sure? I don’t think that honda will be stupid enough to tag honda accord price similar to civic…Are they????
just went to showroom and kinda lots of ppl surprisingly… the actual unit turned me off seriously… it’s still an OK car but not for the price of RM136k, even worst for the 1.8l…
137K for the full spec 9th gen civic is a ripoff considering it’s a SOHC engine, and aftermarket touchscreen navi audio system are way cheaper than 6K. The only good thing about this new car is the 10K km service intervals and 5 yr unlimited mileage. Everything else is just add on cosmetics i.e. push start, electric seats, auto leveling headlights. I’d highly recommend the 8th gen if any dealer still has stock or a second hand one at around 85-90K now.
I do agree… 8th gen FD looks better than this one.. since that im gonna buy the FD version soon.. :)
What is the problem with SOHC? Can you explain? If not, dont make silly comment you Toyota sales man
Nice car, shame about the price.
better wait for next year major facelift.
Buy one year already look old….
Why is Hybrid price so high if tax free???
the 8th gen still the best civic design of all time :)
gosh what happened to honda designers? are they trying to copy ugly altis?
Don’t you hear the rumors…they are migrating to proton and hyundai or maybe kia
all this while they have fooled us with 5K service interval..why VW can give u 15K sevice interval..are they used super advance material for the engine..
Bro mercedes give 25k service interval…. lagi lama… lagi jahanam kereta… lagi bagusssss…. i think i heard the mechanic said in lough and tyranny..in my sleep huhuhuhuhu…
lets talk abt engine which is SOHC and not DOHC,10k service intervals which was long due from HONDA MALAYSIA,this happened bez they introduce Latest technology SOHC engine,
secondly VSC is standard which i believe is really good move from Honda
thirdly 5 years warranty with unlimited mileage is really good move,
design is good bez handling of this civic on the road is awesome and proven.
Handling is good n proven??? U meant gen8 or this new fb? Not sure abt fb, but fd is definitely crappy handling..sold mine after 10mths….eg n ek way better handling…gen8 is like jelly chassis compared to previous gens..dun tink fb wud b overly better as Honda has to design a car for the masses, so comfort is over handling…
superb car!
wait till you touch its hard plastic dashboard
lots of car in that segment are about the same. plastic dashboard. Get a BMW or BENZ if you can afford it… no point complaining here..
no need to buy luxury brand, even ‘cheap’ preve has soft touch dashboard, why not honda?
oh nowadays honda has turn 180 degree to expensve but cheap lousy brand while proton is cheap but high specced brand, very funny indeed
the design looks ugly and really different than previous model..i thought it will be more sporty than b4..
for the 1.8 price chevrolet cruze is a better deal and for the 2.0 price,the kia optima is much much better deal.both have more specs and design to offer.this new honda civic is a letdown and the engine looks a mess
“Vehicle Stability Assist with Motion Adaptive EPS”
this is the real highlight of the car…
its a shame the standard radio is so frikkin ugly! wth were they thinking!?
at least if it wuz a standard double-din, you can change the darn thing n wont look out of place…
8th gen FD 2.0S already has VSA and EPS. So it’s not really a highlight for the new FB. Maybe for the 1.8 model. And I’m pretty sure they are aftermarket panels you can change to fit 2-din player on it just like the FD.
EPS is not new, but the motion adaptive EPS is new i think? where the car will brake either side of the wheel to keep the car stable at high speeds
at least thats wut i read from their drive in thailand
For the extra RM5k, you may as well take the CBU hybrid. Another big winner for Honda.
Its priced quite close to the Peugeot 4 0 8 . I would buy the Peugeot .
i told to somebody before in this site that the price for entry is below 120k.. he never believe and pretend like knw everything.. see! as expected, Honda salesman not cheat on me.. ppl always overestimate their knowledge, never listen to ppl.. sigh.. but of coz, the entry is really an entry standard, nothing special, so sad.
Its priced quite close to the Peugeot 4 0 8 . I would buy the Peugeot
for some reason it look like a proton preve, toyota camry and a honda city join together.
The exterior looks ok. interior…errr… the dashboard looks like it’s melting….. out of shape
I like the exterior design but HATE the price!
The only good things about this car is that pretty chick…
This new civic has a lot of cost down compared to the old version of FD 8th gen which is the dashboard material is cheaper and number of parts been reduced. There’s no texture on the dash. Plus if you noticed the accel pedal is not floor mounted as the 8th gen civic. To me that looks more sportier and comfort to drive. Hinge at the rear trunk doesnt have cover which is the 8th got. Rear combi lights are not exactly 2 piece as the 8th one. They just add those 2nd piece slim lamp just bcoz of the regulation. In US only single piece. Basically nowadays in automotive industry, cost reduction is a common thing. But German cars are always improving bcoz they dont bother on cost to build a car as long it is quality and satisfied.
ugly dashboard….i think honda should be improve design for dashboard…
nice face
ugly butt
No front sensor like the altis?
How come the Hybrid so expensive? i tot no tax already????
Because the new Civic Hybrid now got bigger 1.5L engine.
Tax or no tax, Malaysia car will always be expensive.
Lets compare this new Civic 2.0 (FB) vs 8th gen Civic 2.0 (FB).
Engine Type: SOHC vs DOHC
Engine Displacement: 1997cc vs 1998cc
Max Power: 155 (114) @ 6,500 vs 155 (114) @ 6,500
Max Torque: 190 (19.4) @ 4,300 vs 188 (19.2) @ 4,500
Compression ratio: 10.6:1 vs 9.6:1
Curb Weight: 1270kg vs 1315kg
Can anybody interpret the data and relate it to performance? Eventhough this new Civic using SOHC, how does it performs compared to previous DOHC in FD Civic? I still couldn’t get the real picture.
I hope somebody will share knowledge here. Thanks.
sohc is an ancient type of engine tech, used by japs automotive companies like honda and toyota for their uncles and unties cars. the powertrain still sucks with ancient 4 and 5 auto gears.
it’s underpowered a lot, 2.0l with only 190nm torque? what a shame, even single turbocharged cfe 1.6l has 205nm
tuned for fuel-saving and smoother revving.
then preve has been tuned for best of both worlds,
cvt for fuel-saving and smooth revving
while turbo power to smoke like boss
Looking at the data, the new Civic’s SOHC has slightly more torque, and at lower rpm, compared to FD’s DOHC.
What does this means? Maybe you can explain more. Thanks..
@Extrimist
SOHC tends to have more lower end powers, and vice versa.
Correct me if im wrong.
Comparing an NA engine with a forced-inducted one? C’mon dude, don’t compare apple to durians. How about comparing the 1.6l CFE with Polo GTI’s 1.4l TSI with 250Nm of torque? Now, is the Polo overpowered or the CFE underpowered? Different engines, rite? And the term “power” is very subjective. Some can even say that evo/scoobie is underpowered just because he is used to the power of GTR35. In the end, its up to you. Go test it, feel that the power is adequate, buy it. If not, forget it.
cfe is turbocharged 1.6 engine but equivalent to n/a 2.0l, that’s why it’s been compared to n/a 2.0l civic engine
1.4 tsi is twincharged turbo engine, no wonder has more torque than 1.6 cfe singlecharged turbo
using SOHC is good during lower engine speed as the power only use to spin the single crankshaft.. in DOHC, more power is required for 2 crankshaft thus sacrificing some power to the transmission.. However, DOHC is more efficient at higher engine speed with more valves which is smaller and the speed of open n closing of the valves is faster as the valve is smaller n lighter.. SOHC has lesser valves and each valves is bigger in size..
SOHC engine is less complex.. and i guess not often we rev our engine more than 4000 or 5000 rpm.. most of driving requires less than 4000 or 3000 rpm..
Thanks for your explanation.
However, I think I need to clarify something. SOHC and DOHC doesn’t means the valves numbers. FYI, 8th gen Civic FD both offer 16 valves eventhough 1.8cc is SOHC and 2.0 variant is DOHC.
SOHC: uses one camshaft for all the valves in the engine on both the intake and exhaust.
DOHC: use one camshaft on the intake valves and one camshaft on the exhaust valves.
My concern regarding this new 2 liter Civic is that while the engine has changed to SOHC from DOHC, the data shows that maximum torque is higher and can be achieved with faster rpm, compared to FD’s DOHC. So I can’t imagine why they said FD engine is better than this new FB…
Actually if you see real car then will be different, nicer. Try go showroom and see.
define nice
A definition that you will never understand until you like it.
Design is a letdown because it looks less “ah beng” that 8th-gen Civic, so expect early facelift. Despite that, there are still good things about this Civic FB:-
1.) Honda has finally put a push-start button due to major threat from Korean carmakers, and even our own Proton Preve.
2.) 10,000 km service interval for the first time ever by Honda Malaysia, as a result of complaints by Honda owners saying that the present 5,000 service interval is too short. In addition, they also offer 6 free services (first 3 services are free plus 3 additional free services during 30,000 km, 50,000 km and 70,000 km). At least this should relieve the pockets of the Civic FD owners, as servicing in Honda service centre is expensive.
3.) 5-year warranty, unlimited mileage (to challenge the 5-year warranty by Proton)
Whether we like it or not, we have to admit that Civic FD still definitely sells, because it is a Civic anyway. The amount of sales in the US is the proof. It seems like Canadians design cars better than Americans (FYI, our Civic FD is actually designed by Acura Canada, so it is sold in the US and Canada as Acura CSX).
free services doesn’t mean free spare parts, still have to pay high prices for them, engine oil, gasket, spark plugs etc
They have calculated, you pay more for the all the extra.
very low quality
another cheap knock down; knocking malaysian door :)
How you know is low quality?
look at the dash, no texture, might be from hard plastic
whichever is more fuel-efficient civic hybrid or insight..
This time civic look “Lost” and the price suck. I think Honda Malaysia see us stupid by increasing price and some more quality drop compare to Korean car. Honda…..bye bye….forever.
same ol’ gearbox. seriously there’s no other car at this level or lower with 5 speeders, except for lagi power lagi best
Then we should ask for CVT instead. It is pointless to ask Honda to build 6-speeders when they already got 7-speed CVT.
The model chicks look better than the car …
130k, yet no automoatic headlights and rain sensing auto wipers.
No DRL’s too..
u get all at Preve for the price of 73k.. and with 4 airbags some more !! haha :P
Really sick to hear about Preve…..
HONDA will always be HONDA way better than korean cars and people are going to buy this car no matter what you all say :)…
If you cannot afford to buy new Honda Civic, please stop your mindless bashing. I bet 98% of you Honda bashers are only driving the 2 Ps. Pffffth!
It’s not about Honda bashers. Honda just don’t built anymore impressive cars that people want to buy. Those who want to buy honda just probably in love with the brand. It’s better to buy a better car. No improvement in terms of technology from previous gen. What’s the use of buying it just because it has a new face. Forget it.
sorry i cannot see paddle shifters in the pics
anyone can enlighten me?
Has been waiting for the new KIA. Their design is interesting, quality dunno.
This blog is flood with Korean Junk car salesman, just imagine, so many bad comments but everytime they are selling way way way better than Korean Junk, this prove that most bashers are actually a Korean Junk car salesman.
For example, they talk so bad about the new camry, now I already see so many on road.
come on la bro… dont get emo.. its a free world.. everybody have rights to condemn and u have ur right to defend or protect ur beloved Honda.. kan3?
ur so right….typical malaysian mentality, when they cannot afford something, they crap and bash to feel good that they cannot afford it……
Do not assume that others are in the category of lower income. To tell you the truth, I really admired honda since my schooling time…and my first honda is civic 8th gen..I bought in 2008. But now sorry, I have bad experience, only 4 years on the road, a lot of problems have I faced.. last two months.. got bearing problem, one from front tyre and one form back tyre. Then 2 weeks after that another tyre got bearing problem.. then steering hose.. and the recent one, heard sound ‘tuk-tuk’, sent twice for checking at honda and they confirmed that was engine mounting problem.. i search the internet.. not only me got that kind of problem.. others faced the same problem as well..
Do not ever think that we cannot afford to do maintenance, in fact i choose to use fully synthetic engine oil.. i got money, my income 10k per month, my wife 6k.. total 16k. We bashed honda not because we cannot afford, but just simply because the quality and reliability issue.
That is why…very soon.. no more honda.. but VW instead.
Join me bro,used Civic 2.0 ivtec for 6 years,then one day test drive a Golf.Quality iside is superb,DSG paddle shift,torque 240nm at just 1600rpm,ride &handling superb.Consumes less fuel than my wife’s Myvi 1.3l..good joke.
The FC is inspite of whacking the car now
&then,manual shift &S mode.Really amusing when i see those Civic,Altis,Forte trying to catch up,when i zoom past them.
To those who have that cash,just go &test drive a conti car…the young,the old,even the kids are hooked.
Honda Power: Sorri la bro…lu datang rumah gua..tengok apa kereta-kereta gua pakai…sebijik gua punya kereta boleh beli lu punya 4 honda civic…itu belum kira lain kereta lagi. Gua pun ada pakai lu punya All New Jazz (problem disc break, angin masuk, dengan Vios pun makan asap) bla bla)..jangan ingat orang sini main komplen sedap hati sebab tak mampu beli lu punya brand..ramai kat sini even Maserati pun dia mampu. Open your mind la..critical Honda mentality..damn u! Mau gua punya contact no ka? Boleh set appointment tunjuk kebenaran???
lu mana datang bro? nak tunjuk sombong g masuk forum maserati la .. orang kaya tak cakap besar beli 4 bijik civic boleh dapat kereta lu.
ape punye mentaliti
Agreed!!!not impressing much ha new FB?dont wory la..always got kedai “abang2” to mod to ur own lusty design ayte?everywhere got “JUNCTION PRODUCE” softness touch of vip style ‘kain alas’..or change to mugenR bodykit..hehe…
Bolt on maaa klu nk lagi power lagi best-duit-mengalir…eps vsa tcs etc wut else?selalu guna kaa?selalu practice kaa?ingat dia senang2 nak tolong kau tak berpusing kaa?penah tengok fd spun 100km/h atas hi way kn..
Just becareful la..learn from experience..or other peoples experience..kereta baru tapi kalau malas nak study owners manual pun leh jahanam keesokannya..
semuanya wear n tear dekat kereta ni..bukannye kereta bergerak tapi cabut seat,fender,hood and radio tinggal dekat rumah sebab takut rosak..mana boleh kan?semua bergerak sekali jugaaaa..
Jagalah kereta anda..ingatlah orang tersayang..
Lagi power lagi best-duit-bazir..
Toyota should learn from honda like offer 5 year warranty w/unlimited millage, we shame to u toyota.
Finally, a new model with ESP standard across all variants. I hope sincerely that this will be followed by others.
PaulTan, please do a DRIVEN article on this latest model, as I am very eager to know whether the claims made by US consumers rights group that it is worse than previous gen in terms of handling, NVH, and especially the loud noise emitted in the Hybrid version when the engines starts up after idle stop.
Speaking of the USDM 9th gen, it’s definitely a step back. Firstly, interior quality has noticeably gone down (failed my fingernail and touch test). Second, the 8th gen feels livelier, the new one feels more aloof (possibly because of the EPS’s new gearing and other settings. Thirdly, the competition has gotten more sophisticated and exciting in their powertrain offerings. And lastly and more subjectively, the styling looks outdated and awkward even in the higher EX and SI trim (hybrid looks like an 80s model Japanese car. I was a prospective buyer but moved passed this car for another.
for sure it’s superb handling and NVH, even better than contis, because the test drive unit is overly modified. just wait till you get the real one, it sucks, to the max, lol
Why is everyone applauding the 10km service interval? What enthusiast owner will wait until 10k km for their first oil change and after? Problems only arise beyond the warranty period and by that time the Honda stealership would be happy to sell you a new civic then.
1st oil change is 1000km, omg, why so many re****s in this forum !
You pay extra for the 5 years warranty. Sad. the price, so sad.
hurmmm….civic or peugeot 4 0 8 ???????
helps me
Based on power and space – definitely the 408 Turbo
Pug 408 cheaper (around RM126k). even tough Pug 408 service is high, but at the end, the price will be almost the same with civic.
But 408 is better in term of performance, quality and handling.
same situation as you. but think back the 2nd hand value. I will go for Civic
10k service intervals is nothing to shout about, what the heck, put full synth oil and walla, change it every 10k km. so what is so good with honda actually? only brand?
Nothing great about Honda, If I got money I will go for VW.
Nothing great about VW,If I got money I will go for Mercedes.
If I got money i will ask my driver to choose for me
Serious interior design mis-match at the radio/Navi panel & the overall front dashboard. Something just not right there. Somehow IMO 8th-gen is still a better looking car as overall. Honda Malaysia should bring in better spec car to us if they want to continue to be competitive.
Hope other Japs car maker like Madza, can produce something better….waiting for the new Mazda6!
when waja was introduces , ppl complain about center dash facing driver….if its a genuine problem , i guess ppl will complain here also…
no problem, later ahbeng and brother’s shops will sell aftermarket aircond vents that can put the blow to the right way, specially made for this crap civic
Kia Optima K5 centre dashboard also faces the driver, anyone want to complain about that? In terms of instrumentation theory, that kind of dashboard is intended to make the controls more accessable to the driver.
not complain optima dashboard because it can smoke fugly civic anytme anyday
140ps? 150ps?
not the Power of dream anymore.
honda killing it’s own fan.
sad. the real vtec now kicked out now…
sohc i-vtec – sissy engine for sissy drivers
If this is sissy, than your Forte is a Pondan.
mend, i drive 325i, not forte. i believe my car is the most masculine one
sad……
PROTON PREVE??? Honda failed to create a new better design for Civic.. I still choose my 8th gen civic is better than this.. so sad on this design..
Is 8th gen engine & 9th gen the same? i refer to 1.8L’
If it is the same why services interval is different?
If not the same, what is the differences?
Anyone can answer?
i believe it’s just marketing gimmick by honda
nobody.
Is it 1.8S? You can get the data in their brochures.
9th-gen FB Civic:
Displacement: 1798 cc
Compression ratio: 10.6:1
Max Power: 141 (104) @ 6,500
Max Torque: 174 (17.7) @ 4,300
8th-gen FD Civic:
Displacement: 1799 cc
Compression ratio: 10.5:1
Max Power: 140 (103) @ 6,300
Max Torque: 174 (17.7) @ 4,300
Because everybody is complaining about the short 5,000 km service interval, which is actually intended for severe maintenance schedule. In the user’s manual, the normal service interval is actually 10,000 km, not 5,000 km. Plus the service cost in expensive. No wonder why most Honda owners prefer servicing their cars at cap ayam workshops when then can offer much cheaper service cost yet still using ori parts.
Toyota and Honda is Rubbish…Mazda is a better Japanese car
mazda parts aer very expensive, wait till months to arrive, i dun want to ride bike when i have 150k car. it’s a big No No
Couldn’t agree more.
The good japanese car manufacturer left now only 2.
– Mazda!
– Nissan (but nissan car always fugly look – except r35 heh)
honda out.
toyota out.
Somebody prefer DRIVING JOY, over SAFETY.
And somebody prefer SAFETY, over DRIVING JOY.
Segment C car:
Honda Civic Hybrid 1.8S: RM115K (with stability control)
Toyota Altis 1.8G: RM123K (with stability control)
Nissan Sylphy Comfort: RM115K (WITHOUT stability control)
Mazda 3 2.0 Sedan: RM125K (WITHOUT stability control)
please add..
A C-segment sized car with a B-segment price..
Proton Preve 1.6 CFE : RM73k(with Electronic Stability Control + 4 airbags )
the safest with 5 Start NCAP Australia and with LOTUS Ride.. so u get safety + Driving Joy on this car… so why does not compare it together ?? simple, coz its PROTON… and PROTON has no chance to stands beside those Japs marque that u mention (typical Malaysian Mentality)..
I respond to Mr “arwc”. He did compared Mazda with Honda and Toyota. He didn’t mentioned Proton.
Well, he did’t mention Nissan either. But since he compared those Japanese carmakers, why don’t I include Nissan too since Nissan is kedekut carmaker (do you know Nissan only offer stability control starting from RM173 Teana?)
I have no offence with Proton. I am more happy if Proton install ESC to Exora, since the cheapest MPV with stability control in Malaysia is only starting from RM143K (Citroen C4 Picasso). That will be a boost for Proton.
Don’t get mad, aly… :) Cheers
@mad aly If we are not getting expensive car because of Proton, maybe we might be talking how good Preve is.
It is the enviroment that makes how we Malaysia think. So what make us a typical Malaysian Mentality.
I noticed one thing. That cool looking twin exhaust tip from the FD is now gone. Even the Modulo kit does not feature any exhaust tip at all…
civic does not need those twin exhaust tips. it’s only sohc now, not dohc like before. now it’s underpowered a lot, not powerful but not petrol friendly too. so one word to describe all. CRAP.
Max torque is higher and achieved with faster RPM, compared to FD. Can you explain why you said that now it’s underpowered?
Max Torque for new FB: 190 (19.4) @ 4,300
Max Torque for FD: 188 (19.2) @ 4,500
I just want to learn. Thanks.
because honda cars specs are nice on paper only but in real, it’s underpowered cheap looking interior car
sorry 4 being a noob, what does FB stand for?
It stands for Fuc*ing Bullshi*
FB = facebook
The Civic Hybrid is even more a ripoff. Drum brakes for the back and RM119K with no govt tax. H you think buyers so stupid..I dont think I will run now to the showroom to see the car.
Because of political reason, you won’t be getting 60k Hybrid in Malaysia.
Totally agree. Not just Honda, i think any decent brand who declares that they want sell an imported hybrid for RM60k, their units will not ever reach our shores.
If im not wrong. the cost for building a hybrid car is not cheap.. according to one of the news (sorry forgot from where dy :). please dont always point the cost on Tax. others factors may applied. (If blaming on tax, then we should blame proton) because of proton, high tax applied. everyone knows it what happen. For those who complaint about expensive car and better go for proton… Sorry to tell, forever you will get expensive foreign brand car…
That question came up during the press conference and it was answered.
Yes, it is the same car but not the same. It was explained that Honda took feedback from the American press and customers. Honda says that they have applied much of the improvements to the Civics that were launched after USA’s, including the ones that you see here.
It would be interesting to see the differences between the Civics of two regions as proof. Till then, one cannot form an objective conclusion. If anyone had seen, feel and driven the US and Malaysian Civics, do let us know what you think. :)
Chris, I don’t think so. US customer mainly complain about the interior cost cutting of the vehicle. I don’t see our Civic is getting an upgrade in the interior.
Probably the real upgrade will be the facelift version which soon to be happening in 2013.
Alright. We’ll just have to wait and see.
Which, we’ll get perhaps in late 2014/early 2015?